Burger King 8 with Joe Wengert

Summary

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Doughboys – Burger King 8 with Joe Wengert (May 14, 2026)

Special Guest: Joe Wengert, creator of "Kevin" on Prime

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Episode Overview

This lively and chaotic episode of Doughboys sees hosts Mike Mitchell (“Spoonman”) and Nick Wiger ("Wags") return to Burger King to taste and review the new Mandalorian and Grogu Meal, launched as a tie-in for the upcoming Disney Star Wars movie. Comedian, writer, and newly minted showrunner Joe Wengert joins in-studio to talk chain restaurants, Philly foods, pets, and the paradoxes of fast food IP tie-ins. The episode is packed with food talk, tangents about pop culture, and their signature irreverent banter.

Theme: Exploring Burger King's Star Wars collaboration menu while diving into nostalgia, franchise fatigue, and Philly food loyalties.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Star Wars Franchise & Mandalorian Discourse

Timestamp: 02:53–10:08

• The show opens with a roast referencing George Lucas’ infamous ‘Wills’ and the trajectory of the sequel trilogy, quickly moving to the Mandalorian phenomenon and Disney’s overproduction of Star Wars shows.
• Wiger is openly fatigued by modern Star Wars IP:

  “I’m just gonna be honest. I don’t care about Mandalorian Grogu. I don’t know. I don’t give a shit about these.” (85:57)

• The group debates Grogu’s appeal, with Wiger the vocal cynic and others (esp. Amelia) defending his cuteness:

  “He’s 50 years old. He’s got an infancy fetish. He’s a freak.” – Wiger (90:33)

2. Personal Encounters and Fan Interactions

Timestamp: 07:02–09:12

• Wiger and Mitch recount being recognized in public by a fan who says listening to their honesty about weight loss was inspirational.

  “You being honest and open about it in the pod has been extremely brave...” – Email from "Alex Wally Nuts" (06:08)

• Joe Wengert shares his own story of awkward car-yelling UCB encounters.

3. Inside Baseball: Podcast Production & Media Industry Jabs

Timestamp: 10:41–13:14

• The hosts mock Headgum for layoffs and sending staff on a Miami retreat, with only intern Ryan left at the office.
• Lighthearted grumbling about corporate culture, podcasting logistics, and “who’s a real employee” at Headgum.

4. Millennial/Gen Z Star Wars Perspectives (with Intern Ryan)

Timestamp: 13:37–19:03

• Ryan (intern and film student) discusses his Star Wars fandom and cardboard cutout of minor character Boolio.
• The group explores generational differences in engagement:

  “They use it to teach a lot... If you hadn’t seen Star Wars, they were like, get out, go watch it and come back.” – Emma (19:22)

5. Grogu, Cute Characters, and Franchise Cynicism

Timestamp: 14:34–30:34

• Disagreement over breakout characters (Babu Frick, Grogu).

  “Babu Frick can suck my baby dick.” – Wiger (15:37)

• Tangents about the phenomenon of “buff Jabba” and Hollywood’s shift from “fat guy roles” to “hunk roles.”
• AI-generated “fat movies” and absurd “AI fruit videos” are discussed as examples of weird internet media:

  “...the fruit has nothing to do with it. At no point does anyone make any sort of fruit joke...” – Mitchell (29:44)

6. Joe Wengert’s Cat-Inspired Animated Show “Kevin”

Timestamp: 31:42–54:49

• Joe describes developing “Kevin,” inspired by his real cat and breakup with Aubrey Plaza, now streaming on Prime.
• Discussion of the incredible cast (Jason Schwartzman, John Waters, Amy Sedaris, Whoopi Goldberg, Doughboys themselves), the development process, and cat/dog/animal loyalties.

  “If I get a time machine... I’d go back in time and tell myself not to name my cat after UCB improviser Kevin Hines.” – Wengert (32:56)

7. Classic Philly Food Talk

Timestamp: 56:36–73:36

• Deep dive into Wawa vs. Publix, Wengert’s guilt about quitting Wawa after attending their “university,” and Siptopia drink events.
• Detailed Philly cheesesteak and soft pretzel analysis:

  “It’s a perfect food and it needs no alter. I’m just eating a dry guy.” – Wengert on Philly pretzels (71:33)

• A tangent about East Coast vs. West Coast cheesesteak options.

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Burger King Mandalorian & Grogu Meal Review

8. Burger King Tie-In: Packaging & Menu Items

Timestamp: 73:53–94:08

• All hail the “BBQ Bounty Whopper” (Whopper with BBQ sauce, Swiss, bacon, crispy pickle chips) and themed packaging.

  “It’s like a re-skinned existing item... I like that they put effort into the packaging.” – Mitchell (82:29)

• The hosts lament missing the special Mandalorian crowns and inconsistent presence of the garlic sauce.
• Most are underwhelmed by special ingredients, feeling the regular Whopper is better.
• The Imperial Cheddar Ranch Tots get a thumbs-up for novelty, but could use more cheese.

9. Grogu’s Garlic Chicken Fries & Sauce

Timestamp: 103:09–109:16

• Mixed feedback:

  “There’s something about the garlic chicken fries... makes me so conscious of how processed they are.” – Mitchell (107:08) “[The garlic sauce] just tasted like butter.” – Amelia (109:24)

10. Grogu Blue Cookie Shake – The True Standout

Timestamp: 111:27–118:55

• Universal acclaim for the vanilla-based blue cookie shake (“birthday flavor, not too sweet”).

  “The Grogu Blue Cookie Shake is great. It was so yummy. It’s birthday flavor.” – Mitchell (116:15) “That shake is dangerous.” – Mitchell (113:13)

• Some debate about the “canon” of blue cookies in Star Wars lore, but everyone loves the actual dessert.

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Doughboys Final Scores

Burger King Mandalorian & Grogu Menu:

• Joe Wengert: 3 forks (liked the tots, shake bumped it up; didn’t love the fries or the burger)
• Nick Wiger: 3.5 lightsaber forks for meal; 4 for Burger King overall – “BK is back”; shake is the best part
• Mike Mitchell: 3.5 lightsaber forks, “pole axes” (i.e., destroys) the How to Train Your Dragon tie-in meal
• Universally, the Grogu Blue Cookie Shake is the highlight; everything else is fine, not amazing

“Grogu gets zero forks. And I hope he dies in the movie.” – Wiger (126:43)

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Memorable Quotes & Moments

• “He’s 50 years old. He’s got an infancy fetish. He’s a freak.” — Nick Wiger (90:33)
• “That shake is dangerous.” — Mike Mitchell (113:13)
• “It’s not fair. All the fat guy roles are becoming hunk rolls.” – Mitchell (19:52)
• “If Grogu dies... children crying everywhere. [Me] standing up and applauding.” – Wiger (91:53)
• Unexpectedly, AI-generated soap opera fruit videos get a lengthy analysis (29:39).
• The group discusses what foods would have made them “cry like a baby” if denied as children or adults (145:00+).

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Notable Timestamps / Segments

• 10:41 — Headgum/Podcast Office discussion
• 31:42 — Introduction of guest Joe Wengert and “Kevin” show discussion
• 56:36 — Philly food deep-dive (Wawa, cheesesteaks, pretzels)
• 73:53 — Transition to Burger King Mandalorian meal review
• 94:08 — Segment on missing ingredients and drive-thru logistics
• 111:27 — Blue cookie milkshake praise
• 126:43 — Fork scores & Wiger’s Grogu rant
• late 130s — Silly “Serving USA” game and classic Doughboys food nerd tangents

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Episode Tone & Style

• Playful, argumentative, and absurd. Expect fast tangents and comedic digressions, light teasing, and a blend of nostalgia and critique.
• The hosts maintain their signature mix of food geekery and pop-culture hot takes, refusing to take “branded synergy” seriously.

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Summary for Non-Listeners

Even if you haven’t heard the episode, you’ll know that Burger King’s Mandalorian menu tries—but mostly fails—to transcend standard fast food movie tie-in fare, except for a truly excellent blue birthday-cake shake. The comedic trio debates Star Wars fatigue, the changing shape of nostalgia, and the meaning of “good chain food” with the irrepressible Joe Wengert, who shares stories from both shows (animated and real life). If you want to know the state of chain restaurant pop culture and get some big laughs about cute puppets, processed nuggets, and loving/hating Grogu, this episode delivers.

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Listen for:

• The most passionate argument ever over whether Grogu is simply cute or a capitalist abomination
• A surprising emotional core about pets and loss woven between burger bites
• Absolute consensus: “Order the Grogu Blue Cookie Shake, skip the rest.”

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“The fork is strong with this one.” – The Doughboys (124:08)

Transcript

[Nick Wiger]

This is a headgun podcast. Want to watch this episode? Check it out on our YouTube channel by going to YouTube.com doughboys media.

[Mike Mitchell]

Hey, buddy. Mitch. We've been doing a lot of live dates this year, and we're going some places we've never been before. We're going to North Carolina and Georgia. That's right. We're going to the South.

[Nick Wiger]

That's right. Wise. Some southern shows. We're going to be there May 27. Raleigh, North Carolina. May 28, Charlotte, North Carolina. May 29, Atlanta Times 2. That's right. City Winery. Two shows in a row. Wise. We're gonna blow the doors off the place.

[Mike Mitchell]

Tickets still available for the late show and our guest.

[Nick Wiger]

You know what? Georgia peach. Ooh, it's really sweet. I need something tart. Carl Tart.

[Mike Mitchell]

That's right. Our guest will be Carl Tart, joining us for every show from the south himself. And who better to accompany us to Rally Charlotte and Atlanta Times 2. One of the funniest people ever.

[Nick Wiger]

One of the in a peach of a man.

[Mike Mitchell]

A peach of a man.

[Nick Wiger]

That's right. Wigs. We're going to. We're going to turn the south upside down.

[Mike Mitchell]

We're going to turn the south upside down.

[Nick Wiger]

It's going to be the north.

[Mike Mitchell]

Literacy rates skyrocket. We're not going to make those kind of jokes.

[Nick Wiger]

No.

[Mike Mitchell]

Because we're guests.

[Nick Wiger]

And we're gonna be Southern gentlemen.

[Mike Mitchell]

We're gonna be Southern gentlemen. And we're gonna have a great time. Enjoy some of that Southern hospitality. Can't wait to be there. Rally Charlotte and two shows in Atlanta with Karl Tartt.

[Nick Wiger]

Come and see us in the south, everybody.

[Mike Mitchell]

Put some south in your mouth.

[Nick Wiger]

Yeah. Put some south in your mouth.

[Mike Mitchell]

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[Mike Mitchell]

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[Nick Wiger]

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[Mike Mitchell]

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[Nick Wiger]

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[Mike Mitchell]

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[Nick Wiger]

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[Mike Mitchell]

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[Mike Mitchell]

They were going to get into a microbiotic world, but there's this world of creatures that operate differently than we do. I call them the Wills. And the Wills are the ones who actually control the universe. They feed off the Force. This was George Lucas, the creator of Star wars, describing his admittedly bizarre plans for his sequel trilogy, plans quickly binned by Disney after they purchased Lucasfilm for $4 billion in 2012. The ensuing canonical Disney episodes 7 through 9 were sloppily planned and heavily reshot. And while fans were sharply split on the Force Awakens and The Last Jedi, 2019's disastrous the Rise of Skywalker made both sides agree that the scattershot Exquisite Corpse trilogy was a massive waste of everyone's time. But the fandom also united to celebrate a 2019 Star Wars TV series built around a bounty hunter clad in the same armor as Fett's DJ and Boba, and paired with the biggest breakout character of the Disney era, the adorable Force sensitive green guy informally known as Baby Yoda. But while the Favreau Filoni collab injected a needed dose of breezy fun, the House of Mouse quickly began beating their streaming success like a dead tauntaun over expanding its reach by speed, releasing seven Star wars series of varying quality. And now, with a theatrical film that has the appearance of a Years Too Late TV special, will this seemingly desperate IP Holdo maneuver break the franchise's current Tatooine esque dry spell? With a tie in menu for the nation's second largest burgery, the company is hoping the space opera epic will will its way back to fan goodwill, if you will, without the wills. This week on Doughboys, we return once again to Burger King for the Mandalorian and Grogu meal. Go it's the do. Welcome to Doughboys, the podcast about chain restaurants. I'm Tiger Weiger along with my co host, the spoon Mandalorian, the Spoon man, Mike Mitchell.

[Nick Wiger]

That's not that bad of a roast.

[Mike Mitchell]

I think it's pretty clever, but it's not a.

[Nick Wiger]

It's not roasting.

[Mike Mitchell]

It's kind of just a compliment. It's kind of a. I mean, I

[Nick Wiger]

think they know that. I think that I'm not going to like the movie is probably why that is kind of a roast.

[Mike Mitchell]

It could be that. It could also be thinking like the spoon Mandalorian as opposed to the Mandalorian. You know, instead of saying like, this is the way he says, like this is the W e I g h.

[Nick Wiger]

You imply I eat whey.

[Emma]

No, no, he implied that you have weight.

[Mike Mitchell]

Whey is w h e y. Oh, that's even worse.

[Nick Wiger]

I didn't. I didn't listen to how you spelled whey. I just. I. I thought you were saying w h e. I thought you think kurds. I was thinking kurds in way.

[Mike Mitchell]

Oh.

[Nick Wiger]

So, yeah, I am out of you. That is. That is. Yeah, I guess that's meaner.

[Mike Mitchell]

I should have another way. One that wasn't that. Have it your. This is instead of this is the way you say have it your way. Which is fitting for today's episode.

[Nick Wiger]

Yes. Yeah. Yeah. It is fitting for today's episode.

[Mike Mitchell]

Hi, Doughboys fam. Including guests and ghosts of Doughboys past, present, and future. I was just driving in Los Feliz listening to the latest episode of Doughboys when who do I see walking down the set the street but Mitchie himself. And redacted. I pulled over. Probably scaring you by yelling mitch. And proving to you I was listening to the newest episode, Baskin Robbins 2 with Emmy Botnik, by blaring my car stereo, which I really didn't need to do because it'd be a weird thing to lie about. Being a Doughboys fan is embarrassing enough. I've been on Zepbound Bounding they call it, for almost a year and a half now, and I'm down £100 after a lifetime of struggling with weight. You being honest? This is talking to Mitch. You being honest and open about it in the pod has been extremely brave and has inspired me to be more honest about talking about it in my day to day life. Anyway, I wanted to think of a roast that honored the strange GOP one poops and probably terrible Star wars movie about to come out. Thanks, Alex, Wally Nuts. And yes, everybody calls me Walnuts.

[Nick Wiger]

There you go. Hey, it's probably bad at Cheers with a Burger King shake, but cheers to you on the 100 pound weight loss. That's well done.

[Mike Mitchell]

Wally Nuts or Wally Nets. I'm sorry, Alex, Wally Nets. But everyone calls them Walnuts. I'll just call you Walnuts. Well done, Walnuts. Yeah, I'm trying to. Is the.

[Nick Wiger]

I. I remember.

[Mike Mitchell]

Do you remember this interaction?

[Nick Wiger]

Impossible not to remember. He very much pulled like almost dangerously I would say I. I redacted. Would have a lot to say about this, but he is currently kidnapped, right? So I don't know if that gives a hint to who. Who redacted is.

[Mike Mitchell]

He was out on leave. Like, he gets a couple hours of, like, outside time a day. But he's currently kidnapped.

[Nick Wiger]

He's currently kidnapped. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So he. But I mean, redacted was like. Was like, what the fuck? Like, he, like a guy pulled over and almost came up onto the curb. But we were. We were. He was. He ruled. He was a very nice guy in the. That's great.

[Joe Wengert]

I want to do it. I want to yell at people when I see them from my car so bad, but it. It never goes well. And I saw Alex Verney from ucb, who we all know in his Deb Torica a couple weeks ago. Love them. They were in Silver Lake. I was near the Trader Joe's in Silver Lake, and for some reason, I yelled, do a group game at them, which is not funny and doesn't make sense. And it's only two of them. And they also didn't understand what I said or know it was me. So then I have to text them afterwards and go, hey, you looked scared when a man yelled at you from the car. It was me. I didn't tell them what I said either. Maybe they'll find out now from this episode because I was embarrassed.

[Nick Wiger]

Do a group game is. I would laugh if someone. If someone yelled that at me.

[Mike Mitchell]

This is for. This is like an improv scene type.

[Joe Wengert]

It's a part of this, a very important part of the herald.

[Mike Mitchell]

Yes.

[Joe Wengert]

If you're not doing a group game, you haven't done a herald.

[Mike Mitchell]

That's true.

[Joe Wengert]

You get sent to the basement, and

[Nick Wiger]

life is a herald, as we say

[Mike Mitchell]

on the show is a herald. As Charna Halpern says in her inevitable book, Truth and Comedy, which is really more like just truth in reality.

[Nick Wiger]

Last book I read, I think. I think. I think I read that. I was like, I don't get. I don't have to read anything else for this.

[Mike Mitchell]

You fully illuminated roasted birdfuck.com Mitch May.

[Nick Wiger]

May the go ahead.

[Mike Mitchell]

May the fourth be with you.

[Nick Wiger]

May the fourth be with you as well, my friend.

[Mike Mitchell]

I think this is an opportunity. We're recording this on May 4th.

[Ryan]

That's right.

[Mike Mitchell]

This episode is coming out a little bit later, closer to when the Mandalorian and Grogu movie is going to be in theaters.

[Nick Wiger]

But we're celebrating today.

[Mike Mitchell]

We're celebrating May 4, and it gives me occasion to do my. My character. Yoda in the sauna with Mitch. Yoda in the sauna with Mitch. Here we go.

[Nick Wiger]

I feel like this is gonna end bad for me.

[Mike Mitchell]

Smaller than mine. It is.

[Nick Wiger]

Well, we don't know what the.

[Mike Mitchell]

We don't know what Yoda's packing.

[Nick Wiger]

We don't know what Yoda's packing. We've never seen. We've never seen Yoda without his robe on, have we?

[Mike Mitchell]

Yeah.

[Nick Wiger]

Have we?

[Mike Mitchell]

I don't think we've ever seen Yoda without his robe on in one of the Star wars movies, Mitch. I don't think that scene has happened.

[Nick Wiger]

You think also. You think I'm just going to be fully nude in the sauna in this scenario? All right. Me and Yoda fully nude in the sauna. I'm beating Grogu at least, right?

[Joe Wengert]

I was picturing that. You had him in the little backpack all over your shoulder.

[Mike Mitchell]

You kind of peek under your towel. Mitch, We. We have a. And I wonder if he's. He's going to be able to come over here. But we.

[Emma]

But.

[Mike Mitchell]

But there's one person at Headgum right now that is our intern, Ryan.

[Nick Wiger]

He. That this has been the case every day. We've been here the entire week.

[Mike Mitchell]

There is one person here that is. That is Ryan. Because last week is. But. But this week in particular, everyone is at the Headgum retreat.

[Ryan]

The.

[Mike Mitchell]

I guess. I guess three people who actually work here who, Who. Who, you know, Rochelle, Ally, and Will, I think is basically it. And then, you know, all. We love who we love. But. And then everyone else who, like, has a job, but I've never seen at the office. They're in Miami.

[Nick Wiger]

They're in Miami.

[Mike Mitchell]

They're in Miami on a corporate retreat. So enjoy a mojito on the doughboys. Have fun here making content.

[Emma]

More than mojito.

[Nick Wiger]

It's good. It's good, it's good.

[Mike Mitchell]

We're glad you're having fun.

[Nick Wiger]

And, you know, it's good to have massive layoffs and then go to Miami.

[Mike Mitchell]

Here's what I'll also say. We, Mitch and I, have been on the road. We know how exhaust.

[Nick Wiger]

Should I not say that out loud? I mean, that's what.

[Mike Mitchell]

No, it is.

[Emma]

It's good to do that.

[Joe Wengert]

Two weeks to get the ac.

[Mike Mitchell]

It shows the correct priorities that you laid a bunch of people off and then took a corporate retreat to Miami.

[Nick Wiger]

And the only person should have brought that up. We're in.

[Mike Mitchell]

Is our intern, Ryan. I would also just say, like, we know how exhausting.

[Nick Wiger]

Let's not get our intern in trouble here.

[Mike Mitchell]

Our intern has nothing to do with what the doughboys are saying. We're saying this. We, the doughboys of doughboys Media are speaking.

[Nick Wiger]

Ryan, you didn't get invited to Miami.

[Ryan]

No, I'm not a full time employee.

[Mike Mitchell]

Got it.

[Ryan]

So I only work two days a week.

[Mike Mitchell]

And they brought you in because you. There was a package to pick up today.

[Nick Wiger]

Now, hold on a second. If you only work two days a week and that's what makes you not a real employee, I don't know if anyone at Headgum is the real employee.

[Mike Mitchell]

I think he works too much is the issue. He's here too often.

[Ryan]

Yeah. I had to sign for the spindrift.

[Emma]

You had to sign for.

[Mike Mitchell]

You had to sign for the spindrift?

[Ryan]

I was already gonna come in probably, but then I woke up this morning and I felt really bad, and I was like, I don't think I'm gonna come in. But then they didn't know that, so they'd already ordered the spindrift.

[Emma]

For who, though? No one's here.

[Ryan]

There's a lot of people coming this week, actually.

[Emma]

That's good.

[Ryan]

We have to keep the fridge stocked. Tomorrow there's five different shows recording.

[Joe Wengert]

Wow, how cool.

[Ryan]

Which is more than, like, we ever have.

[Mike Mitchell]

That's amazing. It's almost like the people who make podcasts here can continue to do that without the outcome staff. It's so strange.

[Emma]

Wild.

[Nick Wiger]

We're happy we see you every day.

[Mike Mitchell]

We're happy we see you.

[Ryan]

Ryan.

[Mike Mitchell]

You do a great job.

[Nick Wiger]

You're the only person we see.

[Emma]

Yeah.

[Ryan]

Yeah. Well, there's. There's usually, like, a few people.

[Emma]

I see Will sometimes.

[Nick Wiger]

Yeah, I see Will. I mean, the three people that you just named are people who I will see.

[Joe Wengert]

Yeah. Ally.

[Emma]

Marty.

[Nick Wiger]

Yeah, yeah.

[Mike Mitchell]

Marty Hughes, the CEO of the company. I think that's pretty much the full list.

[Nick Wiger]

Well, it was our last good episode at head.

[Mike Mitchell]

Ryan, are you.

[Nick Wiger]

Congratulations on our last episode here. I feel like.

[Mike Mitchell]

Ryan, are you a fan of the Star wars franchise?

[Ryan]

Yeah. In general? Yeah. There's ups and downs.

[Mike Mitchell]

Are you a Mandalorian guy?

[Ryan]

I really liked the first season, and then after, I felt I liked how it stood on its own, and then I felt like after season one, it kind of became just every episode was another Star wars character coming in.

[Mike Mitchell]

Right.

[Nick Wiger]

What do you think of Baby Yoda?

[Mike Mitchell]

Yeah. What do you think of Grogu?

[Ryan]

He's fine.

[Mike Mitchell]

But the film.

[Ryan]

Film students are clamoring to see the Mandalorian and Grogu on the big screen. It's the most anticipated film of the year.

[Mike Mitchell]

Wait, really? That's what I was gonna say. Cause, like, you're kind of in the demographic of, like, this is someone who came up with Disney, grew up with Disney, Star wars, and is going to like, like, like we're targeting this movie towards people who, like, love the. The that side of things. Love Babu Frick, the Mandalorian.

[Nick Wiger]

And you love Babu Frick. Yeah, Joe loves Babu Frick as well.

[Ryan]

I care for that movie.

[Mike Mitchell]

Movie's bad.

[Ryan]

I love Babu Frick and I love Bulio, who is in that movie as well. He's voiced by Mark Hamill and he's an alien who. When Finn and Poe have their epic break into whatever, he's there and he's like. And Finn's like, boolio, how can we repay you?

[Nick Wiger]

And Boolean's like, win the war.

[Mike Mitchell]

That's good.

[Nick Wiger]

I do not even remember a cardboard

[Ryan]

cutout of him in my room.

[Nick Wiger]

Oh, my God. Alright, so you do kind of like. Okay, you like this guy?

[Ryan]

Well, just because I wanted to get a cardboard cutout when I was 14

[Nick Wiger]

or 15, whenever of anything or of a Star wars film of something.

[Ryan]

And then I just found like, the most random one I could find. Then I became a fan of him after I had the cardboard cutout.

[Joe Wengert]

They had Mark Hamill do the voice. Cause they were. They were going $800 over budget, right? But they were like, if we just have Mark Ham, we'll double up and do Bulio, then we're good.

[Ryan]

Somebody's got a voice foolio.

[Mike Mitchell]

So I'm doing the math here. 14.

[Nick Wiger]

I don't like. I don't like Babu Frick.

[Mike Mitchell]

Yeah.

[Nick Wiger]

To just be clear, we know you don't like Babufre. I've said. I said something. I said, Babu Frick can suck my baby dick. That's what I said. I did say that.

[Amelia]

On.

[Ryan]

He's in Rise of Skywalker. He's like the only. Only good part of it.

[Joe Wengert]

Oh, Jesus.

[Nick Wiger]

All right, so Emilia's Googling Babu Frank.

[Ryan]

He's a little guy and he's like.

[Mike Mitchell]

Yeah. He's like, grogu is little. And then they got a little guy.

[Amelia]

Oh, he's so cute.

[Mike Mitchell]

That's the thing. That was the reaction. That was like the one breakout character of Rise of Skywalker, which is otherwise indefensible.

[Nick Wiger]

Amelia asked me if I wanted to save this cup because it's a plastic cup because Baby Yoda's on it.

[Amelia]

So cute.

[Nick Wiger]

Wow. You love Baby Yoda too.

[Amelia]

I have a sticker of him on my car.

[Nick Wiger]

Do you want.

[Emma]

I forgot about that.

[Mike Mitchell]

Do you want the cub? Do you want it?

[Amelia]

That's okay. I don't like to have stuff.

[Mike Mitchell]

It's just a plastic.

[Nick Wiger]

It's just a plastic cup. I'm not keeping the cup. To be clear. Maybe one of these cups I'll keep. But I don't know.

[Mike Mitchell]

I don't know.

[Nick Wiger]

Wait, we're going to say 14 or 50. What are you saying?

[Mike Mitchell]

Oh, no, I just.

[Ryan]

I was 16 when I got the cardboard cut out.

[Mike Mitchell]

That's the thing. Because I'm doing the math of like when you would. When Rise of Skywalker came out. So that means we're. We're clocking you at age 16 in like, 20. 19. 20, 20.

[Amelia]

I was.

[Ryan]

No, because I got it a few years after Rise of Skywalker.

[Mike Mitchell]

Okay, even better.

[Joe Wengert]

But you like this guy in an ironic way, right?

[Ryan]

Well, now I like him. Sincerely, I got it because it was funny. Cause no one such a real. No one knows who that is. Why did they have this character? But now I really like him because he watches over me while I sleep. And everyone who comes into my room signs the back of him. So it's like a guest book.

[Emma]

Oh, that's cute.

[Mike Mitchell]

All this said your enthusiasm level for Mandalorian and Grogu, especially as a film buff, as someone who watches a lot of movies, is a film student pretty low.

[Nick Wiger]

Is this in your dorm room or is this at your home? At your home?

[Ryan]

It was in my home. Now it's in my dorm room.

[Nick Wiger]

It's in your dorm room?

[Mike Mitchell]

Yeah.

[Emma]

Should we make. Get doughboys cardboard cutouts made?

[Nick Wiger]

I think Ryan should bring the doughboys to the dorm. Do. Do boys go dorm?

[Emma]

Not legally allowed.

[Ryan]

You can come to the dorm. You can sign Boolean if you guys

[Nick Wiger]

want to sign Boolean from here.

[Mike Mitchell]

But would it help for us to go undercover as college students,

[Ryan]

you guys? Yeah. I mean, there's college students who look old.

[Mike Mitchell]

Yeah, right.

[Nick Wiger]

We'll come. We'll skateboard behind you while we go to your dorm.

[Ryan]

I can't skateboard. But I always wish I could because they get everywhere around. They get.

[Joe Wengert]

Yeah. These are your two new skateboard teachers. That's why they're coming up into the dorm.

[Emma]

There you go.

[Ryan]

Hey, guys, this is my.

[Joe Wengert]

You gotta work inside and get comfortable there before you get to skate around outside.

[Mike Mitchell]

Well, thank you, Ryan. Thanks for putting the hours in keeping the lights on. I guess I'm in charge, so you can go home.

[Ryan]

I have work to do.

[Mike Mitchell]

Okay.

[Ryan]

All right.

[Nick Wiger]

Actually there's, I just ordered off some spin drips if you don't mind signing. We're gonna arrive at 9pm tonight. If that's who can't spin drifts just go to the front door.

[Joe Wengert]

There's more than six spin drifts. They need somebody there to sign.

[Emma]

Also, if the gates close, I don't know if they'll leave packages.

[Nick Wiger]

Oh, oh.

[Mike Mitchell]

I'm not sure how that works.

[Ryan]

Super excited for Jeremy Allen White as buffet Jabba.

[Nick Wiger]

That looks buff. Jabba is which. And again, we've talked about.

[Ryan]

Yes, it's actually Jabba's son Radha from the first arc of the Clone wars animated show. Grown up and now he's ripped.

[Mike Mitchell]

I think it's weird that a Hutt speaks basic, but I'm gonna roll with it. I agree with that, but what about

[Ryan]

Uncle Zero or whatever his name is?

[Mike Mitchell]

Yeah, I guess there is president for it.

[Nick Wiger]

Ryan, I'm gonna ask you kindly to get the fuck out of here.

[Mike Mitchell]

It's a London.

[Nick Wiger]

I'm joking.

[Mike Mitchell]

I was joking.

[Nick Wiger]

How is Jeff for Ryan? He's great. We love Ryan. I can't believe that he knew so much about. I guess the Star wars is not lost on that younger generation. They really care about it.

[Emma]

They use it to teach a lot. Like I in college, like a lot of my sound design classes. Like if you hadn't seen Star wars, they were like, get out, go watch it and come back.

[Amelia]

Also Ryan logs like five letterbox movies. Movies on letterbox a day.

[Mike Mitchell]

He watches a lot of movies.

[Nick Wiger]

Yeah, he's a great guy. I, I, I don't think, I don't. First of all, I don't like that job. The job is, is buff now. It's like the buff Santas. We were talking about how Santas are buff. And now also Jabba is, is buff.

[Mike Mitchell]

All the fat guy roles are becoming hunk rolls.

[Nick Wiger]

Yeah. It's not fair. I don't like it. I, I was, we, we were in San Jose. You, you and I were just in San Jose and we were up there. I just want to tell people about. I, I had had a few drinks. I was just from friends from back home. And then they were like, you should. It would be funny if you did a snack or whack with this placenta pill. I have a placenta pill. And I was like, hahaha. And then we had some drinks and as the night went on they were like, you should do it and chase it with breast milk. I have breast milk now.

[Mike Mitchell]

This, this was, this was with.

[Nick Wiger]

Well no, no, we're dictating names.

[Mike Mitchell]

We don't say names. But, but, and, and, and the rest of the team is not there.

[Joe Wengert]

We've.

[Nick Wiger]

The rest we've left. Oh, so you just want to make it clear that you guys were not here for all this?

[Mike Mitchell]

Well, yeah, no, no, I'm just, I'm just giving context. And for some people want to picture what's happening.

[Nick Wiger]

Amelia had just recently we reviewed shit. Amelia has a. A TikTok where she reviews on the street. And we were walking down the street and I was like, oh, there's like, over there. Be careful. Don't want you. And then she lit up and was like, I want to review it. And she was. She reviewed shit. But she was right before that was

[Amelia]

saying, you were my special guest.

[Nick Wiger]

We were your special guests.

[Joe Wengert]

You were viewing like, like dog on the ground. Okay.

[Nick Wiger]

Yeah.

[Joe Wengert]

So it's human.

[Nick Wiger]

It's always human. It's always human.

[Amelia]

I don't do dog.

[Joe Wengert]

Okay.

[Mike Mitchell]

Was that a.

[Emma]

Like what?

[Joe Wengert]

Like.

[Mike Mitchell]

Because I remember you were telling us that video was not performing well. Did it pick up at all to pick up any momentum?

[Amelia]

No, it didn't. I think it was just too long. I think I just need to cut it down because people don't have attention span, so it needs to be less than a minute.

[Mike Mitchell]

Do you think there's also an aspect of people find it unpleasant to hear, to look at shit and hear you talk about it? Some of them go, oh, wow. Okay.

[Nick Wiger]

Well, at this, you were saying to me that. You were also saying that I don't try enough stuff. Like, you were having this conversation with

[Emma]

me all the time.

[Amelia]

What I said is that I could picture Weger at a rave sooner than I could picture you at a rave.

[Nick Wiger]

So this conversation was happening as well, and I was.

[Emma]

Which only came up because we walked by a bar that sounded like a rave. It was an empty bar, but it sounded like a rave.

[Nick Wiger]

First of all, you were wrong about that. Whatever.

[Mike Mitchell]

Hey, who was smoking reefer on the walk back?

[Amelia]

That's true.

[Mike Mitchell]

One of us and one you.

[Emma]

And it wasn't me. It was me. It wasn't just me.

[Nick Wiger]

I think you should have been arrested for that outdoor reefer activity.

[Joe Wengert]

I, I. San Jose is going down the tube.

[Nick Wiger]

And so I was. You had said, you had said this thing to me of, of, you know, of you, you're. You're. In my mind, it was like, you don't try enough stuff. So.

[Amelia]

No, actually I said, I, I've seen Weiger try a lot of things. I've seen him, you know, change his mind about stuff. I've seen him travel when in the past he didn't want to. I've seen him get tattoos. I've seen him try new things. And you interpreted that as a. Like a diss against yourself. Like, it's.

[Nick Wiger]

Well, this must have been in my head when I finally was. When I finally did take a placenta pill and chased it with breast milk and I recorded it for Snacker Whack. And we all decided that we think it's. Could never be seen by anyone, that it's too weird to ever show.

[Joe Wengert]

Placenta pill Is your friend had it made from.

[Nick Wiger]

From her placenta? Yes. Yeah.

[Joe Wengert]

And. And what does it do for you again?

[Nick Wiger]

It's supposed to, like, give you, like, iron, and it was like, it seems fine to just do it. And then watching the video back, I. I don't know. It's. It felt very, like, seemed a little

[Mike Mitchell]

odd for some reason.

[Nick Wiger]

It seems like pizzagy or what people claim pizza gate is or something. I was like, am I eating human in some way? Like. Like, I don't think any of us felt comfortable.

[Mike Mitchell]

Like, is this a Peter Teal, like, blood transfusion thing?

[Amelia]

Sure.

[Nick Wiger]

Yeah. I just thought it was funny. And then in hindsight, I don't. I think. And in the video, I'm even. You know, the video ends with me saying, did I eat here? Is this eating human? Like, it's kind of me spiraling out a little bit.

[Amelia]

Yeah. Mitch is like, am I accountable now? Yeah, in a way. And he's like, I have no one to talk to.

[Emma]

Placenta is like, it's your stem cells.

[Nick Wiger]

Yes. Yeah.

[Emma]

But they, like, they put it in capsules to help with, like, postpartum stuff.

[Nick Wiger]

Yeah. Yeah. I was. I wasn't the only one who took it. Someone else took it as well.

[Joe Wengert]

Okay, but doesn't she have a finite amount of this?

[Nick Wiger]

She does. There were, like, just a couple left. And she was like, you guys can just have the rest of them. And then we shot it with. With. With some breast milk. So. So no, I. You know, I. I did. I just. I just. I. I thought that I could tell the story on here and at least. And maybe we cut the breast milk.

[Joe Wengert]

Taste like.

[Nick Wiger]

It tasted very. It was very. If it's me, it tastes very sweet. It's almost like soy. Like, almost like soy or oat milk or something. And I had had a few drinks, so. But it was. It was. It was straight. It was kind of uncanny Valley as they. It was. It was. There was Something that was also. It was a little. It was a little off. Yeah.

[Mike Mitchell]

I only drink that stuff straight from the tap, So.

[Nick Wiger]

We have a Doughboys video nasty. That no one will ever get to see, ever. We're not gonna show.

[Amelia]

I think we should post it.

[Emma]

I mean, maybe when this episode comes out.

[Nick Wiger]

Yeah, I know you liked it. Of course you liked it.

[Joe Wengert]

It's making me want to see it.

[Mike Mitchell]

Yeah, it is. I think you're maybe stoking interest in something now. You might have to release it.

[Joe Wengert]

If it was just described to me, I would. No, I would pass. Yeah. But now I'm like, I gotta see it.

[Nick Wiger]

I just. So that was. That was my. That was my trip to San Jose. And then I came back and I got some right near the Burbank Airport. I got some. What's it called? The. The Chinese food. The Panda Express. I got some Panda Express.

[Mike Mitchell]

How fun is that?

[Nick Wiger]

It's great. The Burbank airport makes it feel like you're not traveling at all. It's a. It's the best.

[Mike Mitchell]

It's. It's for. For people who aren't from la. It's. It's like one of those smaller airports. As contrast to you. You maybe have these in. In city, some satellite city that's not the major city in wherever you live. And, and it's just, you know, there's like four terminals or something like that. Security is a breeze. You can arrive very close to your flight time. It's. It's just like a completely different experience from something like LAX where you got to give yourself like an extra three hours just to get through everything.

[Nick Wiger]

I will say I think I have been craving placenta and breast milk ever since then, though. So wild. Yeah. I think that I, I, maybe this is maybe just a dangerous game I've played where I.

[Mike Mitchell]

Into a baby.

[Nick Wiger]

There was a. There was a fear. I didn't want to do it because I was like, can you turn into a baby? There was that thought that went through my head. And then when my friend did it, I was like, at least we'll both turn into babies.

[Mike Mitchell]

Yeah. At least we'll both be bal.

[Nick Wiger]

Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So there was that. There was that. There was that thinking.

[Mike Mitchell]

Dick gets bigger. You gotta play a drop. Mitch.

[Nick Wiger]

Emma, hit him. I. I think I've been. I. I haven't seen any weird side effects.

[Mike Mitchell]

That's great.

[Nick Wiger]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Emma]

If anything, you're, like invincible now.

[Nick Wiger]

Yeah. I feel pretty. I feel pretty good. Yeah. Hit him with a drop. Yes.

[Amelia]

Call this in my family, it's known as the brown Unicorn.

[Mike Mitchell]

Washington Monument, but brown.

[Amelia]

Exactly. It looked just like that.

[Mike Mitchell]

Raisinets is funny because it's like. Like rabbit turd.

[Nick Wiger]

I've had some Raisinet. I've been in that area before.

[Amelia]

I took a shit that somehow breached the surface of the toilet.

[Emma]

Toilet. Toilet.

[Nick Wiger]

Toilet.

[Emma]

Toilet. Toilet.

[Ryan]

Toilet.

[Amelia]

Okay, now I know how Mitch feels every time a drop plays.

[Nick Wiger]

Yeah. It's not always so fun, is it?

[Joe Wengert]

It's not fun.

[Mike Mitchell]

A truly disgusting story that I was reminded of.

[Nick Wiger]

Yeah.

[Joe Wengert]

Oh, no. It's happening.

[Nick Wiger]

No, there are no baby side effects.

[Joe Wengert]

I did think when you. I thought you were gonna say that you went to the Panda Express and then got more breast milk.

[Nick Wiger]

That would have been the better setup to a joke. But I'm. I'm dumb. Hi. I'm going to be at your San Jose show and would be so grateful if you played this shitty drop. Oh, well.

[Mike Mitchell]

Jesus.

[Nick Wiger]

Great job, Drop King. I'd like to show how cool I am to my two friends, Jake and Nick, who I convinced to attend despite them never having heard the show. Xoxo, Kimia.

[Mike Mitchell]

Wow.

[Nick Wiger]

Thank you, Kimia.

[Mike Mitchell]

Thanks, Kimia.

[Emma]

I would have loved to watch Amelia hear that in a theater.

[Amelia]

It would have been the same as watching it here, I think.

[Nick Wiger]

Yeah, we could have played. Because I think the drop we played at at San Jose did not have someone from the audience.

[Emma]

Oh, really?

[Mike Mitchell]

I don't remember it.

[Emma]

Damn.

[Nick Wiger]

Or I don't know. It was only a day ago.

[Mike Mitchell]

Your job got heard by a lot more people, which means that Amelia's disgusting anecdote got heard by a lot more people. So there you go. Than it would have at the live show.

[Nick Wiger]

On the other end of thin people taking fat roles, there's a lot of AI Ing of. Of movies, like putting fat people. That's. I just saw a video for the dining take on the Shining where they're all fat. So AI AI is. Is a lot of people are making.

[Joe Wengert]

I saw Jurassic Park. Jurassic Park. They were all fat.

[Nick Wiger]

They're all fat people.

[Mike Mitchell]

That's fun.

[Nick Wiger]

So AI is being really useful in some ways of.

[Joe Wengert]

They come up on my feet and I try not to look at it real quick because I'm like, no, I don't like this. But, like, they know I like it. Like, no, this is actively killing my industry and my friends. But stop showing it to me, because I won't stop looking at it.

[Mike Mitchell]

I kept getting engrossed in the AI Fruit videos that Amelia introduced to us,

[Nick Wiger]

which are weirder than my me eating placenta and Drinking breast milk.

[Mike Mitchell]

I believe they're like soap opera speed runs. They're basically, it will be like every scene from the beat of like a romance that like falls apart. Someone gets betrayed, there's adultery, someone hires a fruit people. But they're fruit people. But the fruit has nothing to do with it. Like, at no point does anyone make

[Nick Wiger]

any sort of fruit joke.

[Mike Mitchell]

It's, they're, they're disorienting, they're addicting. They are addicting.

[Joe Wengert]

There's, there's cat ones like that where the cats are. And it's a lot of like pregnancy drama stuff. And we, we were watching them all the time in the Kevin writers room and I was like, this is, this is actively hurting what we're trying to do. Like, we should not be supporting this

[Mike Mitchell]

roasted bird.comdrops a bird.

[Nick Wiger]

I would say the fruit does stand in for. I mean, I don't think you can define what race it's supposed to be, but fruit seems to be a race placeholder in these videos is what I say. I'm just being honest with. We can't let these videos go like, like there is some weird racial, like it's like, oh, you know, like versus oranges. Yes. And you're like, oh, this seemed like, like, and then the orange is giving birth to like a, not, not an orange or you know what I mean? You're like, oh, this is. And then like the other person is being surprised that say like a tomato is being born and that. So it's like clearly, like there's some race elements going. I'm just saying, I'm just being honest. There are racial elements in the fruit videos.

[Mike Mitchell]

So just a thing to track.

[Joe Wengert]

There are, I'm reacting to your reaction to what you're saying. You've not said anything wrong. But then you like became like very

[Nick Wiger]

scared that I will say so. I'm not, so I'm not saying anything wrong. There is, there's these videos that you send us. These weird videos you send us have. They're very strange and you love them. I hated them.

[Mike Mitchell]

I, I, I'm not sure if I love them, but I found myself unable to stop watching. Yeah, they just kind of got their hooks into my brain. Mitch, we gotta, we gotta introduce our guest. He's been waiting way too long. A creator of the new animated series, Kevin, now streaming on Prime, Joe Wengard is back. Hi, Joe.

[Joe Wengert]

Hi.

[Mike Mitchell]

Thanks so much for coming in studio. You know, last I think we had you was a Covid episode.

[Joe Wengert]

Sure was. Yeah.

[Mike Mitchell]

And so it's great to see in the flesh. We need to talk about Kevin.

[Joe Wengert]

Yes.

[Mike Mitchell]

So tell us about, tell us about this. I'm not. Hold on, hold on. We're talking about Kevin. Your show. We're not referencing the, the, the, the film.

[Nick Wiger]

The film is. The is. Is. Is that movie about. Is he kind of a. Is he a school shooter?

[Mike Mitchell]

He's a bad kid.

[Nick Wiger]

He's a bad.

[Mike Mitchell]

Who ultimately does something. An act of horrific violence at the. Of the end.

[Nick Wiger]

Oh, oh, wow.

[Joe Wengert]

And they, the parents kind of know

[Mike Mitchell]

ahead of time they know what's going.

[Joe Wengert]

Yeah.

[Mike Mitchell]

Oh.

[Nick Wiger]

Oh, Jesus.

[Mike Mitchell]

Well, we're not talking about that.

[Joe Wengert]

We're talking about Kevin and, and really completely different. Maybe we should have changed the name. But the, our cat's name really was Kevin. And then I remember, like, even at some point we were like shopping it around. Like, that was like the title of like the email and stuff. And I'm like, this is a very dark movie that we're referencing right from the job, but.

[Nick Wiger]

But not a dark show.

[Joe Wengert]

If I get a time machine, the one thing I'm going to do is go back in time and tell myself not to name my cat after UCB improviser Kevin Hines.

[Nick Wiger]

What year did you get in the cat, Kevin?

[Joe Wengert]

Oh, I want to say like 2007. 2007.

[Nick Wiger]

Okay. There's nothing you could warn about from 2007 onwards besides that. I feel like there's nothing.

[Mike Mitchell]

Yeah, that was the main thing.

[Joe Wengert]

We were already on a bad path. There's nothing anybody could do at that point.

[Mike Mitchell]

Yeah, we're on the tons of great things autocracy. Do you have a, like, like, like your, your, you know, your, your cat Kevin, you had many lovely times with, with him. Obviously the show is, is called Kevin and has to have some inspiration from your own cat.

[Joe Wengert]

Yes. Yeah, yeah, it's. It's funny. It's like it, it's about, you know, I had this cat and his brother were cats that I adopted with Aubrey Plaza when we were dating. And then we almost immediately broke up and then I kept the cats and I think it was sort of, you know, she was acting, so she was going out of town and I was just like, you know, just teaching improv and doing standup. So I was going nowhere. So I was like, I have time to spend with these cats. But then, so the show is about, you know, Mitch actually plays sort of the stand in for me in the

[Nick Wiger]

show, which I was honored.

[Joe Wengert]

And this couple breaks up and then Kevin is kind of like, well, fuck you, I'm breaking up with you guys, instead of having to choose. And then he goes off and lives in a pet rescue and kind of figures out if he wants to be with people again or if he wants to be just on his own. But then when you really get down to writing it, it's like, you know, I'm projecting all sorts of things onto Kevin, but he is ultimately a cat. So it's like you kind of have to then create a new character there. So he's really. The Kevin character is more me, really, than I think your character Dan was.

[Nick Wiger]

And played by the great Jason Schwartzman as well. This was really, really great in the show.

[Mike Mitchell]

We talked about this when we had Gilliseria, our buddy, on last week. But the cast of the show is unreal, beyond just the aforementioned Mike Mitchell, of course.

[Joe Wengert]

Yes, it's really great. Jason plays Kevin. And then.

[Nick Wiger]

So I stole a sip of shake while he was. And I was afraid it was gonna cut back to me.

[Amelia]

I deliberately cut, too.

[Nick Wiger]

Yo, you piece of shit. I saw you laughing.

[Joe Wengert]

There's more shit now. Now it's on your nose. There's something else going on. Yeah, we got Jason Schwartzman. And then. So then he moves into. We kind of treat it like a ymca. He moves into this pet rescue in Astoria, where we lived. And Gil plays the guy who runs it, along with his dog, who's voiced by Amy Sedaris. And then he sort of makes friends with these other cats who are independent cats. And Jason. We got Jason first. So then once you have Jason, like, we wanted these other cats to be kind of mentors to him. And so, like, our, like, sort of like, we'll never get this person. Dream casting for the sort of. This one cat who's very, like, erudite, and he, like, hates people, and he doesn't think he needs people. We were like, it'd be funny if it was like, John Waters. He seems like a good, like, curmudgeon, like, mentor to Jason. And then John Waters said yes. Why? I still don't understand why.

[Nick Wiger]

I mean, I loved. I was in a Zoom, I think one time when I had to call in, I was. I maybe doing Doughboy stuff or something like that. Or maybe it was actually even for I was doing Twisted Metal, but. But I zoomed in once. It was just me and John Waters in the Zoom together. I was like, hello. And I. Who doesn't love John Waters?

[Joe Wengert]

Yeah, he's. He. He loves working and he loves, like, you know, just, like, doing cool things and hanging out with people. So he, like, came to every table Read. Even though he was.

[Amelia]

He.

[Joe Wengert]

He, like summers in Provincetown, but he showed up to every table read. His only thing was he's so old school. He was like, I. I'd like to have a hard copy of the script for the table read. So we, like, called a theater in Provincetown, and we were like, hey, you know, John Waters is. And they were like, yeah, it was like 200 people that live in Provincetown, and this guy that runs this theater there would print out the script and bring it to John every week, and then he would zoom in to the table read.

[Nick Wiger]

He was. I mean, and he's so funny. He's so funny in the show. I also have to say that at the. We did a screening for. For, like, some. Some cast members and stuff like that just recently, and when I was there, the Celtics had really beat the 76ers.

[Joe Wengert]

Yeah.

[Nick Wiger]

And now. Yeah, Jimmy, I agree.

[Joe Wengert]

You're upset.

[Nick Wiger]

Jamie's a little upset. She's got New England in her.

[Emma]

She's. Yeah, she's. She's cares about her Uncle Mitchie's team.

[Nick Wiger]

And then you were. It was like, I was kind of on top of the world, and now things have just flipped completely. And it's game one of Nicks and Sixers tonight, and you're here with us, and you're. You're a.

[Mike Mitchell]

You're a Sixers fan. We should say for our audio audience that. That Joe is wearing a Philadelphia 76ers hat. And you can already picture the Celtics hat that's permanently grafted onto Mitch's head.

[Nick Wiger]

So I take it off for sleeping and put on my Celtics nightcap.

[Joe Wengert]

Well, you. You showed up in that. And, like, my line producer is from Philly as well, and so he was like, can you believe this guy's wearing the Celtics hat here? And I was kind of like, my Mitch is always wearing a Celtic the same way. Like, I'm sure, like, I'm wearing this because this is one of my, like, three hats that I have.

[Nick Wiger]

I. I love the Celtics. I always wear this hat. I wasn't trying to be disrespectful to you, but it blew up in my face. Anyways, we lost.

[Joe Wengert]

It's like a Philly person to take it that way of, like, this is a disrespectful, respectful thing you're doing to me, not just simply like, putting on a hat before you leave the house.

[Nick Wiger]

I am now toying whether to do. I. Do I root Sixers? Because I never. Embiid's always kind of been funny with The Celtics and has respected them. And the Knicks really do piss me off. Yeah.

[Joe Wengert]

Who do you have the greater rivalry? Because you don't really have a rivalry with us. You guys just kick our ass every time.

[Nick Wiger]

No, I. I guess now. Well, now things are changing, but forever. It was like I used to hate the Pacers back in the day. Like, like, like in the Heat. I mean like I will still.

[Mike Mitchell]

Yeah.

[Nick Wiger]

The Heat.

[Mike Mitchell]

That's.

[Nick Wiger]

Oh yeah, I'll hate way but I

[Joe Wengert]

mean I guess the Lakers. But the Lakers long time ago.

[Nick Wiger]

Yeah. And it's also kind of like when does that really match? Like when they play him in the regular season. But I am kind of like when

[Mike Mitchell]

it happens in the finals though it's great.

[Nick Wiger]

It is great though The Knicks are playing for Rudy Giuliani now probably so that is a tough. Do it for Rudy. All you Knicks fans, I'm sure.

[Joe Wengert]

Well and I should say and it wasn't our intention we were making the show. But now Kevin is for Rudy Giuliani. It takes place in New York. And if everything about the show is for him and I wish him well and I hope he's getting a lot of laughs from the show.

[Mike Mitchell]

You the.

[Emma]

So. So the.

[Mike Mitchell]

The Sixers were playing the Celtics in the previous series. As for.

[Ryan]

For.

[Mike Mitchell]

For people who don't follow the NBA, the. The Sixers won in game seven and are now as of this recording facing the. The New York Knicks.

[Nick Wiger]

Which by the way you said today you were like. You almost brought up the Celtics playing. You're like, when are the Celtics playing?

[Mike Mitchell]

There's such a fixture of the poke season. I was like. I was like. I wanted to make sure we're recording the same time as one of the Celtics games. And then it was like, oh, the Celtics.

[Nick Wiger]

Ben, if today was the day eliminated, would you.

[Joe Wengert]

You would have moved it.

[Nick Wiger]

I don't know how this happened because. But I. I mean I guess it was just that we came. We came to this decision to record this day and we just forgot there was a game this day.

[Mike Mitchell]

We didn't know. We didn't know the schedule because we were in the previous round. They don't have to set the next round until the. The previous round was finished.

[Joe Wengert]

It was really like the day before because it was. It was two days ago.

[Nick Wiger]

Yeah.

[Joe Wengert]

I'm so thankful that this happened because I get way too stressed out at the playoffs and it's just like better for my heart and for my like life to not watch it live.

[Nick Wiger]

Isn't that sad as. As you become an older man that you can't just watch, like, exciting playoff basketball. Like, I was in game seven. I was like, I should turn this off. I shouldn't watch any more of this, which is such a sad thing to do.

[Joe Wengert]

You know Ben Rodgers, friend of the show, Friend of you guys. He, like, doesn't watch Buffalo Bills games anymore.

[Nick Wiger]

Yeah.

[Joe Wengert]

Am I allowed to announce something like that? Yes.

[Nick Wiger]

You know? Yeah.

[Joe Wengert]

He just waits till afterwards because it's just like, too much.

[Nick Wiger]

Yeah.

[Joe Wengert]

And I. I was at a wedding for game seven, so had access to my phone, but I shut it. I had it off for the first quarter because. Not a total monster. These people are declaring love to each other. I don't have to be watching that. But then I was a total monster for the whole rest of the reception. I was just like, so. But now I'm psyched to just. And if they lose, I can just go. I just don't have to experience it.

[Nick Wiger]

Wise. And I had a good wedding like this. We were talking about this beforehand where we left and kind of left the wedding and went and watched some playoff basketball.

[Mike Mitchell]

We did.

[Nick Wiger]

It was a good time.

[Mike Mitchell]

It was fun.

[Emma]

Fun.

[Mike Mitchell]

We came back for the reception later.

[Nick Wiger]

I mean, playoff basketball is more fun to watch than a wedding. We can. Everyone can agree.

[Joe Wengert]

We can all agree what round?

[Nick Wiger]

It was the final round for the wedding. And then for. I think it was like, maybe the second round.

[Mike Mitchell]

I think it was these semis.

[Nick Wiger]

Okay.

[Ryan]

Yeah.

[Mike Mitchell]

But it was like an important game. It was like a game six or something.

[Joe Wengert]

Yeah.

[Nick Wiger]

I believe the Celtics maybe did lose.

[Mike Mitchell]

Yeah.

[Nick Wiger]

I think it was another. Some more bad news. Anyways, the show is great.

[Joe Wengert]

You're great in it. And you're both great in it.

[Emma]

In it.

[Mike Mitchell]

Thank you so much. I haven't. You were kind enough to. To cast me in an episode. And along with Mitch, we're. We're little ants.

[Nick Wiger]

Yes. And wigs. I gotta give Wise credit. He says he will. He just doesn't do. He. He does. He's retired from acting.

[Mike Mitchell]

Well, I know I never really was acting, but I just like, I don't really do. You know, I don't really do it very often. So, like, when I had the opportunity, like. Okay, yeah, sure, I'll give.

[Joe Wengert]

You were great. You're so. Yeah, of course you were. But I remember when you came in, you were like, I don't do this anymore. And I'm like, don't say this in front of the. I'm the one who's having you come in. Yeah. You guys are two ants and you're Kind of like fighting with each other, but you love each other. And so, you know, with animation like that, usually we try to get people to do multiple voices. And I was like, oh, it'll be. It might be fun. If it was. If it was Mitch, I had a blast.

[Nick Wiger]

And it's a very funny moment in the show. Also, the show had. When I was in Boston. It was when. It was during Pandemic is the first. When we did the pilot presentation, you

[Joe Wengert]

were at your mom's house, right?

[Nick Wiger]

I was at my mom's house. I was living back home. This is the COVID Days wags.

[Mike Mitchell]

This is.

[Nick Wiger]

This is maybe pre Rob Lowe for us. Wow. This is.

[Mike Mitchell]

Which is kind of like our, like, year zero. Like the BC and AD of the podcast is when. Or bce, you know, CE is when Rob Lowe did. Did his episode review out Burger.

[Nick Wiger]

Yeah. PRL is prl. Yeah. Prl was this. It was. It was pre Rob Lowe.

[Mike Mitchell]

Now we're in the ARL era, which will stretch on for all of time.

[Nick Wiger]

Yes. Yeah. But. But yeah, I. I had. I remember I was at a studio in Boston where Emma used to work.

[Emma]

Yeah. Soundtrack Boston, where I interned.

[Mike Mitchell]

Wow.

[Nick Wiger]

And that's where I recorded my. My lines for the. For the pilot. The pilot.

[Mike Mitchell]

And then Emma, when you. When you interned at Soundtrack Boston, were there other people there?

[Emma]

Yeah. Would you imagine? It was full of people all the time.

[Mike Mitchell]

Wow. Interesting.

[Emma]

All over the place.

[Mike Mitchell]

Interesting experience you had.

[Emma]

Yeah. Crazy, right?

[Nick Wiger]

You said that because you saw Ryan out of the corner of your eye and you were reminded that someone is here. You're really sticking it to head gum today. But you know what? I don't give a shit. I'm fine with it. But yeah, that's. I was. It was. It was a long while ago, and then I was. So when the news came that it was happening, I was so excited. It was.

[Joe Wengert]

Development just takes a long time in any project. But then, especially with this show, like, they. We did a version of it, and then they initially passed on it, and then a couple of years went by, and then they were like, you know what? We think we messed up. Which almost never. Never happens. So I feel like it was like, I remember, like, getting to reach out to people like you and other people that were involved in the pilot. And like, Pam Murphy is in the show has. She's great and she's very funny.

[Nick Wiger]

We've never had Pam. We gotta get Pam on the show. Yes. We've never. I don't think we've had Pam on the show. It's Insane.

[Mike Mitchell]

Wow.

[Joe Wengert]

She's the one friend who did a voice who just like every time I would see her, she would be like, isn't it a shame they didn't do your show? And I'm like, yes, Pam, it is. Is this gonna be the rest of my life? You talk about this thing that was very heartbroken and upse. So it was like, really great when I was able to go, hey, guess what? It's actually happening again.

[Nick Wiger]

They made, they made the right choice to do and everyone should watch the damn show. And if you don't have Amazon, get Amazon and watch it. I say it.

[Joe Wengert]

I absolutely hate, like, asking people, like, please watch the show, but please watch the show. We're like, almost at the end of the first month, and they're like, those first month numbers are what makes them make all their decisions.

[Mike Mitchell]

So if you don't have prime, sign up for prime, sign up for a prime trial, watch the show. Because that is a metric that the streamers look at is if someone's signing up specifically to watch something or like,

[Joe Wengert]

watching, like, watching multiple episodes is important and finishing the series. And it's a, it's a, it's. I also do think, like, with a lot of first season shows, I think it gets better by the end. And so it's, even if you don't like it, watch it.

[Nick Wiger]

They're gonna hate.

[Joe Wengert]

Watch it, hate watch the whole thing.

[Mike Mitchell]

So you got a cat show, but in your home, which you share with. With past Doughboys guest Holly Prasoff. The, the. You, you, you're now a dog dude.

[Joe Wengert]

I'm a dog dude now? Yeah.

[Nick Wiger]

Tony, have you become a dog dude?

[Joe Wengert]

I always have liked dogs and cats. I, I think when I was living in New York, that wasn't weighted by,

[Nick Wiger]

I mean, that maybe sounded like I was heartbroken that you became a dog dude, but I, I, I love all animals.

[Joe Wengert]

To be clear, I do think, like, now that I'm starting to engage with, with people who are watching the show, like, I do sometimes get a sense that people are like, like, oh, they're like, what's your cat's name now? And I'm like, I have a dog. And you can tell that, like, some of the really extreme cat people don't like that.

[Nick Wiger]

But yeah, we're a tricky. We're a fickle bunch.

[Joe Wengert]

I'm not anti cat. I love cats. And I would have another cat again.

[Mike Mitchell]

So I'm also pro cat.

[Nick Wiger]

The actual I'm pro cat. I'm also pro cat.

[Mike Mitchell]

What, what does that sound like? Nixonian or something. Like, it's a lot.

[Nick Wiger]

It sounded like Pokemon. Go to the polls. It sounded fake as it didn't seem. I'm pro cat. Yeah. I mean, I think you would get. You would be great with a dog because you'd be, you would be the only person in the world who is waking up the dog to go out for a walk.

[Ryan]

Oh, yeah.

[Mike Mitchell]

I'm an early riser and I'm a walking machine. I get my steps in.

[Nick Wiger]

That's what I'm saying. So you and a dog would be good fit. With a dog, you don't travel.

[Mike Mitchell]

That's true.

[Nick Wiger]

You would wake up before the dog. You love to walk.

[Mike Mitchell]

Yes.

[Nick Wiger]

Yeah, you, I mean, you would be per. You, it would be perfect.

[Mike Mitchell]

I can sit in silence for hours.

[Nick Wiger]

You bag your shit.

[Mike Mitchell]

Yeah, I do bag my own shit.

[Joe Wengert]

If you get a dog, you got to make sure that they're like an active dog, though, because I was excited about that for Tony. And I would take him on, like, jogs at the beginning, and he just, like, doesn't want to do it. And if I take him on too long of a walk, at a certain point, he makes you carry him. Oh, wow. Like, if you try to do the Rose bowl, he can't do the whole Rose Bowl.

[Nick Wiger]

I do that with Wag sometimes too.

[Mike Mitchell]

Jimmy's very active.

[Emma]

Yeah, she's pretty good.

[Mike Mitchell]

You wouldn't know it from the podcast.

[Emma]

No, she'll snooze all day or she'll go on like a six mile hike. Whatever we're doing, she's down. We walk like two or three miles every morning, though. She's used to it.

[Nick Wiger]

Kevin has passed. Kevin. Kevin is across the rainbow Bridge. All right. Rest in peace to Kevin.

[Joe Wengert]

The worst pitch we had was at Netflix. It was the first question they asked. For some reason, we did the whole pitch and they were like, and is Kevin still alive? And we were like, no. And then just like the whole rest of the vibe had that, like, oh, you're thinking about how he's dead. And don't you think about how he's dead? He, he lived a good, long, natural life also.

[Nick Wiger]

I think, what a way to honor him, too. On top of that, like, he lives forever.

[Joe Wengert]

I, I, I was doing a lot of, like, standup about him when he was still alive. And so people really, like, associated me with my cat. And then when he did pass away the Christmas after he died, I received three portraits of him from three different people in my life. And it's nice, but it did also make me Go like, am I talking about my cat too much? That I've had three different people go. And now I'm never beating the. Talking about his cat too much. Allegations. I've made a whole show.

[Nick Wiger]

I'm once. Once Wally or Irma go. Which is going to be many years from now. I'm going. I'm going to. Going with them. I'm going. I'm gonna get. I'm getting in. I'm getting in the. I'm getting into the grave with them.

[Mike Mitchell]

Are you going to be buried in a pet cemetery or are they going to be buried in your family plot?

[Nick Wiger]

Man. Do you want to know my honest truth?

[Mike Mitchell]

Yes.

[Nick Wiger]

True. Thought about it. So you could. If I die before they die, I would like their ashes to be put with me later, if possible.

[Mike Mitchell]

I. I glad you said later. Not like a pharaoh, where they immediately.

[Nick Wiger]

No, not like a pharaoh, you piece of. I have said before that I'd want them to eat me if I. But I would. And if they pass before me, which I, you know, I guess, timeline. It seems like that's probably the case, but I don't like to think about it at all. I would like them by my feet when I get buried, just like my other two. I have two other cats, Zip and Buster, and I would want them by. By my feet.

[Joe Wengert]

I have, like, I have. They. They'll do a little paw print after they go. And then I have the ashes, and they're in a little. It's in a little chest. And I've got, like, moved it from multiple apartments into my house now.

[Nick Wiger]

Yeah.

[Joe Wengert]

And now I have it sitting in the TV room and I have the show playing on a loop, which is also good for the numbers. And then just. But I just want to make sure that he's seeing it.

[Nick Wiger]

That's very sweet. That's. I.

[Mike Mitchell]

The.

[Nick Wiger]

I have. I have. I have Zip and Busters ashes from. From back in the day. But I thought, like, by your legs. Where a cat would sleep when I'm in bed. You know what I mean? Something like that. I mean, I shouldn't be thinking about my death too much, but now, you know, so you know, my last.

[Mike Mitchell]

Not too. Yeah, you know, whatever. Yeah, I kind of always. Top of mind.

[Nick Wiger]

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I guess so.

[Mike Mitchell]

Sometimes you're like, maybe it'd be a relief. Wouldn't have any problems. But then you. You have to get those thoughts out of your head. You know, you can't. You can't chase that too long.

[Nick Wiger]

We'll be right back with more doughboys.

[Mike Mitchell]

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[Amelia]

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[Mike Mitchell]

Mitch, how has your sleep improved since you switched to Helix wigs?

[Nick Wiger]

It's like night and day. It is like night and day. I'm getting better. More restful sleep. Asleep. I'm feeling good. I got my CPAP mask on. I'm getting. I'm laying down. I'm falling asleep in seconds.

[Mike Mitchell]

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[Nick Wiger]

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[Joe Wengert]

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[Nick Wiger]

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[Amelia]

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[Nick Wiger]

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[Joe Wengert]

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[Nick Wiger]

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[Joe Wengert]

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[Ryan]

Thanks buddy. Yeah.

[Nick Wiger]

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[Joe Wengert]

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[Nick Wiger]

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[Nick Wiger]

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[Joe Wengert]

I don't, I like that I don't have to go around, you know, like different stores or something. It's just all, well, it's like, oh, do I need to go to like a.

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[Joe Wengert]

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[Mike Mitchell]

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[Mike Mitchell]

Joe, we gotta talk. We gotta talk food. So.

[Joe Wengert]

Yes, yes, yes, yes.

[Mike Mitchell]

Yeah. You know, obviously there's a Philadelphia connection. We recently had. We were in Florida and I had pub sub. Public subs for the first time. Okay, now public, obviously. And Publix, a grocery store, Wawa convenience store, but they both are doing, you know, it's a place you go to get a sandwich.

[Joe Wengert]

Yes.

[Mike Mitchell]

I will say I was very kind to Publix on the episode, but I think I overall liked Wawa better. I imagine you're. I imagine you're a Wawa partisan.

[Nick Wiger]

I said that.

[Joe Wengert]

I'm very torn on Wawa. Did I talk about my Wawa experience the last time I was on the show?

[Mike Mitchell]

I'm sure we talked about, but we can revisit it.

[Joe Wengert]

I am a big fan of Wawa, but I feel immense guilt when I go to Wawa because I am a graduate of Wawa University. When I was in college, my college did trimester. It was like a six week winter semester. And if you didn't do it, you had six weeks off. And I wanted to make money. And so I got a job at my local Wawa at home. And when you get a job at Wawa, they send you to Wawa University for a couple of days. And the manager at the Wawa was like, so you're just like quitting college now? And I was like, yeah, it wasn't for you. For me just straight up lying to this man. And they spent the money to invest in me to become a Wawa employee. And then I like at the end of the six weeks I quit. And I've never. It was the first time I remember another adult man being really mad at me, like as an adult, he was like, just get out. Didn't. I didn't work my shift that day. And he was mad. And rightly so.

[Mike Mitchell]

What is Wawa University entail?

[Joe Wengert]

I had to go to another part of the city and like, like in like a strip mall. And you're basically just like watching videos and like they're teaching you about like HR and etiquette and making sandwiches.

[Nick Wiger]

So you are a graduate of Wawa University. You're not.

[Joe Wengert]

This was paid. It was like a pay, it was like two days of paid work.

[Nick Wiger]

You're not a Wawa dropout because you did you.

[Joe Wengert]

I graduated.

[Nick Wiger]

You graduated.

[Joe Wengert]

Yeah, but I don't think I, I'm sure I'm on a list somewhere and I don't think I could ever be hired at another Wawa ever again. Oh my God, definitely. Every time I go into the Wawa in Roslyn, Pennsylvania, I feel like, like I'm afraid somebody's going to recognize me there. Is that manager guy still public enemy number one at that place?

[Nick Wiger]

How did you graduate? Suma kum sandwich.

[Mike Mitchell]

Yeah, did you graduate? Suma kum sandwich?

[Joe Wengert]

You did?

[Mike Mitchell]

That's cool. That's great.

[Joe Wengert]

Suma Suma kum. Sub.

[Nick Wiger]

Yes. Yeah.

[Mike Mitchell]

Subum latte. Subacum latte. Thanks.

[Nick Wiger]

All right. All right. Reset. Did you graduate?

[Emma]

Fuck.

[Nick Wiger]

All right, Reset. All right, Reset. Did you graduate? Subacum latte?

[Joe Wengert]

Yes, I did. What a great joke.

[Mike Mitchell]

Emma. We can use that one.

[Amelia]

Sure.

[Joe Wengert]

Have you got, do you know, have you heard of Siptopia from Wawa?

[Mike Mitchell]

We must have gotten into it when we did the episode, but it was years ago.

[Joe Wengert]

Siptopia to remind they now they just like because they started with Hoagie Fest which is just part of the year. Now they're trying to have something left like Hoagie Fest happen all year long and Siptopia is truly just like highlighting the drinks. And Holly Prasoff really likes the drinks at Wawa. She's all about like the smoothies and stuff when we go back.

[Nick Wiger]

Wow. I'm kind of in a Siptopia myself over here. You maybe heard a little. But I, I'm having fun sipping on this bad boy here.

[Mike Mitchell]

That shake is dangerous. We'll talk about it. But I, I intentionally parted ways with mine early because I was like, I'm going to drink that whole some H.

[Nick Wiger]

I've done that. Yeah, I've now done that. I, I, I, I'm liking it. It's pretty damn good.

[Mike Mitchell]

It's pretty damn good.

[Nick Wiger]

A little, a little tease. We shouldn't we shouldn't get into it,

[Mike Mitchell]

but possibly the best thing to come out of the Mandalorian as an ip.

[Nick Wiger]

I mean. Yeah, I agree. It's. It's. It's. That's very, very tasty.

[Mike Mitchell]

Very tasty.

[Nick Wiger]

So the sip. Siptopia, is it like. Is it just, like. Is it Cokes? Is. Is it is just, like, fountain drinks, or is it.

[Joe Wengert]

It's fountain drinks. And then they also have smoothies made to order there. It's like one of the bigger, like, parts of the Wawa, you know, Wawas. Everything is made to order, and it's like tapping it into the screen and all that stuff.

[Nick Wiger]

I didn't know about the septopia. We could have had some fun with that back in. We reviewed Wawa in. In Pennsylvania. It was on. It was a.

[Joe Wengert]

We did.

[Mike Mitchell]

There was a live show in Philadelphia. The crowd was very drunk. Carl Tart and Nangle were there. Christine Nangle, a lot of fun.

[Nick Wiger]

That's when we sang Philadelphia Cream Cheese Is.

[Mike Mitchell]

It was that show.

[Emma]

We did two shows that night. We did Wawa and Rita. Rita.

[Nick Wiger]

Oh, Rita Water.

[Emma]

Yeah, we did a Bang Bang.

[Mike Mitchell]

Oh, and we had a John Taffer cameo. You remember that?

[Nick Wiger]

Oh, I bought a John Taffer cameo. Or did. You did. Who knows?

[Mike Mitchell]

I think you did.

[Nick Wiger]

I did. I. I used to buy cameos all the time for the show.

[Emma]

There were a lot of cameos on that tour. Stormy Daniel cameo. Is that tour, too?

[Nick Wiger]

Oh, possibly. Yes. Yeah, we got a storm. Stormy Daniel. Jesus, I don't remember any of the stupid shit we did. When you think about Philadelphia, are you more of a cheesesteak guy, or are you the pork sandwich kind of guy?

[Joe Wengert]

I'm more of cheesesteak kind of.

[Nick Wiger]

Okay. Yeah. I feel like the pork sandwich is pushing to be, like, the.

[Joe Wengert]

It is and that. And that is a real, like, divider, because I'm. I say I'm from Philadelphia for ease, but I'm, like, really from, like, the suburbs, like, right outside, right? And, like, the cheesesteak steaks are everywhere there, but the pork sandwich is, like, more like Philly proper. So I feel like that is, like a. A dividing line for people.

[Nick Wiger]

Like, what. What's. What is your. We probably asked you this before, but what is your go to cheese steak?

[Joe Wengert]

I mean, there's a place called Lee's Hoagie House, which. I know this sounds confusing, but they also do cheese steak.

[Nick Wiger]

Okay.

[Joe Wengert]

And that's actually my favorite one. And there's also one called, like. There was this place called, like, Mr. Peas that opened up late After I'd moved away, that became my parents favorite place. And I. Their food was really good. And also they just had like insane merch that, like, didn't quite make sense. Like, they also served pasta there. And their logo was like a big piece of pasta that looked like a rigatoni. And then there was like another smaller noodle that was like shy guy that was also. I have a shirt. I'll take a picture of this shirt and I'll send it.

[Nick Wiger]

Oh, yeah, I want to see this.

[Joe Wengert]

But I was like, what does this. What. What does this mean? And how was this the one that you guys landed on?

[Nick Wiger]

I love that. I love.

[Mike Mitchell]

I was buried in my iPad for a second because I was trying to find the.

[Nick Wiger]

What.

[Mike Mitchell]

What our order was when we did that episode in Philadelphia back in 2019. I got a peach mango smoothie, which I remember now was delightful. You got a strawberry lemonade. Do you have any memory of that? Strawberry lemonade?

[Nick Wiger]

I think I liked that. Strawberry lemonade. Yeah.

[Mike Mitchell]

They would have been part of the sip to.

[Nick Wiger]

So maybe we maybe did a watermelon

[Mike Mitchell]

lemonade and a fruit punch.

[Nick Wiger]

We.

[Amelia]

We.

[Mike Mitchell]

We did. But I don't think Siptopia. It's an event, right? It's like, I think it's like a

[Joe Wengert]

deal on that stuff for one part of the year.

[Mike Mitchell]

Got it. So it's like. It's like a shrimp fest or whatever. You know, it's like. It's like. That's not called shrimp fest. What the it called. You know what I mean? At Red Lobster.

[Joe Wengert]

Shrimp of Palooza.

[Mike Mitchell]

Palooza.

[Nick Wiger]

That's what it is. Wait, is it not Endless Shrimp?

[Mike Mitchell]

Endless shrimp. But there's some sort of. There's some sort of fest that they have somewhere. Somewhere.

[Nick Wiger]

What do you think? What made you.

[Emma]

What?

[Amelia]

I mean, your names are both way better than what it actually is.

[Mike Mitchell]

What is it?

[Nick Wiger]

Shrimp.

[Amelia]

Well, isn't it. You said it's shrimp fest.

[Nick Wiger]

No, it's Endless Shrimp.

[Amelia]

I mean, Endless Shrimp.

[Nick Wiger]

Yeah.

[Joe Wengert]

Endless Shrimp doesn't sound like a name.

[Amelia]

Are way better.

[Nick Wiger]

What.

[Mike Mitchell]

What is it? Actually?

[Emma]

It's just Red Lobster. Endless Shrimp.

[Mike Mitchell]

It's just endless shrimp.

[Joe Wengert]

Okay.

[Emma]

Yeah.

[Nick Wiger]

Endless Shrimp kind of sounds gross.

[Mike Mitchell]

It does.

[Nick Wiger]

Yeah. I don't like the. I don't like the sound of it.

[Joe Wengert]

It sounds like a wish that's gone wrong.

[Mike Mitchell]

Oh, there's a lot of S's. That's fun. Like the nice. That's fun.

[Emma]

I like shrimp a palooza.

[Nick Wiger]

Shrimp of palooza is a better. I like shrimp a palooza more.

[Mike Mitchell]

I like shrimpalooza.

[Nick Wiger]

What to you. Makes a. Makes a good cheesesteak. Do you need the braided roll?

[Joe Wengert]

Yeah, it's. The bread is a big part of it.

[Nick Wiger]

Okay.

[Joe Wengert]

And then. Because I felt like I like the very thin. When it's really chopped up the meat. Sometimes you get like the big slabs, and I don't like the slabs.

[Nick Wiger]

What's. I remember when I was rowing on the schuylkle, I rode on the Schuylkle and. And. And. Oh, wait, the schuylkle is not. Oh, no, it is. That's the. That's the.

[Joe Wengert]

The skle is a river.

[Nick Wiger]

The river. And.

[Joe Wengert]

Yes, but there's like. There's like a. Like a. What are you talking about? A highway.

[Nick Wiger]

Yeah.

[Mike Mitchell]

What are you saying?

[Nick Wiger]

I. I rode on the. I rod. I rode on the. I rode. Rode crew on the Schuylkill River.

[Joe Wengert]

Oh, yeah. Yeah. Creepy crew.

[Nick Wiger]

I rode crew on the Schuylkill River. You know, I rode crew. I rode crew on the Schuylkill River. And then I was like, my mom and dad came, and we're like, we're gonna. Let's get cheese steaks. And it was Pats and Gino's. But at the time. And this is 2002 or whatever, like, you know, the Googling you did led you to Pat. Like, you. You know that Pat's in.

[Joe Wengert]

Those are still like, the main spots. I. There's another in Philly. There's a. A place called Steve's Prince of Steaks that I really like.

[Nick Wiger]

Oh, okay.

[Joe Wengert]

And that's kind of like. That's another, like, you know, not coming up to the top of the Google.

[Nick Wiger]

I feel like Philadelphians, who are. They are very opinionated. They're like, it's funny that we ever. We always have rivals because we are two very cities that are very similar in many, many ways.

[Joe Wengert]

I think we're each convinced the other is the bigger.

[Nick Wiger]

Yes, I think.

[Joe Wengert]

But then I think every other city is like. Like, look at these two.

[Mike Mitchell]

It's kind of the doughboys dynamic.

[Nick Wiger]

You're a bigger. But Pats and g. Like, I feel like Philadelphians. Don't. You. Don't get involved.

[Amelia]

I didn't say anything.

[Nick Wiger]

Don't get involved. Philadelphians. I'm watching you. Philadelphians. Both of you, actually. Philadelphians.

[Emma]

I didn't even giggle.

[Nick Wiger]

Philadelphians, I think, are very like Pats and, you know, suck now. I think.

[Joe Wengert]

Yeah, they're like the. They're like the too commercial answer or something.

[Mike Mitchell]

I mean, tourist traps. It'll be on like a Guy Fieri show. But.

[Joe Wengert]

But Honestly, they're good there too. I mean, it is not a difficult sandwich to make. So there's lots of places that do it.

[Nick Wiger]

Well, sure. Oh, is this. Is this a. Is it a Penthouse item wise?

[Mike Mitchell]

Is a cheesesteak a Penthouse item? This is a thing we have on.

[Nick Wiger]

No, there's a lot of bad.

[Mike Mitchell]

I think get a. Really bad. So that the idea of a Penthouse item is. Is a thing we. We're. We're talking about now on the podcast, which is an item with a high floor.

[Emma]

So it's like.

[Mike Mitchell]

Like, for me, a grilled cheese sandwich is like a Penthouse. The standard grilled cheese sandwich is going to be good because it's a grilled cheese sandwich. It's not a thing. You can completely up, like, a steak. You can, like, ruin a steak, you know, by overcooking it.

[Nick Wiger]

Yeah, I do.

[Mike Mitchell]

Seasoning it.

[Nick Wiger]

Now. Now I'm wondering, is like a. A. Is a steak and cheese one that gets made poorly, like, a lot?

[Mike Mitchell]

Is that I shouldn't use steak as an example, like, I was trying to.

[Nick Wiger]

No, I know, but I'm saying steak

[Mike Mitchell]

and cheese is something.

[Nick Wiger]

I'm saying steak and see cheese sub. I'm saying, is that something that made, like. And is it, like, hard to find the ones that are. That are decent?

[Mike Mitchell]

I don't think it's a Penthouse item. I think you'd probably find some pretty bad ones. I think particularly if you're a cheesesteak enthusiast.

[Joe Wengert]

There's a.

[Mike Mitchell]

You're probably dismissing a lot of cheesesteaks.

[Joe Wengert]

Yeah, I think it's like, I never am ever getting it anywhere else because it's something that'll be on any menu or you'll, like, encounter it at the airport or like, wherever you go. Like, I think because the. The ingredients are cheap and it's easy to make, they'll throw it on there.

[Nick Wiger]

This is what I'm saying.

[Joe Wengert]

I'm not gonna gamble with that and like, you know, and eat one in, like, Utah or something.

[Mike Mitchell]

Right.

[Nick Wiger]

This is. This is my thought on it, where I'm like, maybe it's a basement. I. Or is that what the other term was, a basement? Because I'm like, I never order steak and cheeses, but I love them. So, like the.

[Mike Mitchell]

The.

[Nick Wiger]

So a thing that I love. I'm never ordering them because I feel like I don't like the versions I get almost always. Like, I always think that they're not good or kind of not great quality. And so, like, to me, it's like if I'm at a place that Has a great steak and cheese. Like, I love it. And this is one of the best sandwiches in the world. But in la, I'm not ordering a steak and cheese to. Honestly, Jersey Mike's is a place where I order steak and cheeses from the most. And that is like. And I think that that's way better than a lot of other Philly cheesesteaks anywhere.

[Mike Mitchell]

Yeah, I think the Jersey bikes one is pretty good. But again, I mean, Joe, you might turn up your nose at it.

[Nick Wiger]

Yeah, yeah.

[Mike Mitchell]

You probably. You probably would not at least approach what.

[Nick Wiger]

What you have.

[Mike Mitchell]

What you have in Philly.

[Joe Wengert]

Don't apologize. I'm not hurt that you had that.

[Nick Wiger]

I'm saying in Los Angeles, Jersey Mike's makes a good steak and cheese. And then there's like, booze. Philly cheesesteak. But even with booze, I'm like, whatever. For what it. I like booze.

[Joe Wengert]

I think I lived right near. I lived like, two blocks from bo and I think they do them decently there.

[Nick Wiger]

Yeah.

[Joe Wengert]

And there was something nice about, like, if I was going to watch a Sixers game or something going and getting that feels like that's fair. Feels nice.

[Mike Mitchell]

We the blue. The owner of booze is like the son of someone who had a cheesesteak shop not in Philadelphia, but nearby in New Jersey. And it was. So it is someone who's like, bringing that over.

[Nick Wiger]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't know. I'm just saying, like. Like dirt. Like, there's not a ton of places like that in LA that I'm excited. So I'm not eating cheesesteaks a lot of the time.

[Joe Wengert]

All of that stuff is all about, like, the bread and how they're like shappies. Pretzels.

[Nick Wiger]

Yeah.

[Joe Wengert]

He has. He's an actor that's figured out how to do the soft pretzels. It's like he's really figured out that he's using the same process that they use back.

[Nick Wiger]

And those are damn good.

[Joe Wengert]

They taste very authentic.

[Mike Mitchell]

They were bringing those to the WJ picket lines all the time. God bless them. We were eating plenty, you know, Weight and pretzels.

[Emma]

Wow.

[Nick Wiger]

I didn't realize that.

[Emma]

Yeah.

[Nick Wiger]

This wedding I went to, I was there sometimes. No one told me there was going to be Chappie's pretzels. I would have been there all the time. You writers, where were you when I. When you were there, weren't you?

[Emma]

I was there.

[Ryan]

Yeah.

[Nick Wiger]

Oh. Pretty consistently write better parts for me. I did. Just to be clear, I picketed for the WG against the wga.

[Joe Wengert]

Get back to work for me.

[Mike Mitchell]

Let's talk about the Burger King. Mandalorian.

[Nick Wiger]

I just. Can I also just say that, like, when he said pretzels, I was like, man, what is. What is? I said, is it the pork sandwich or the steak and cheese? But now, like, is the pretzel or me?

[Joe Wengert]

For me, the pretzels. Number one.

[Mike Mitchell]

The pretzels.

[Nick Wiger]

Number one pretzel over the. But I really.

[Joe Wengert]

I'm like. I, like. I'm a snacky person.

[Mike Mitchell]

So do you. Do you do anything in particular with your pretzel? Like. Like. Like, you know, I imagine salted. Are you someone. You dip it in deli mustard. You dip it in cheese sauce.

[Joe Wengert]

It's a perfect food, and it needs no alter. I also, like. I'm not like, a big, like, sauce person. So you're just.

[Mike Mitchell]

You're seeing a dry guy.

[Joe Wengert]

I'm just eating a dry guy. And this. I went to a wedding this weekend, and they had Chappie's pretzels, but they were cutting them in half, and it was in idle wild. So it was, like, at a high altitude, and they were very dry.

[Mike Mitchell]

Oh, man.

[Joe Wengert]

And I think other people were kind of like, these are too dry. But wasn't stopping me.

[Mike Mitchell]

A warm.

[Nick Wiger]

A warm, soft pretzel that. With nothing on it. I can. I can get down with that. It's very. It's. They're delicious. I agree with you. You don't. You don't. It doesn't need mustard or ch. Cheese sauce.

[Joe Wengert]

I even, like, in the Philly airport, they have real. They have, like, federal. Federal Donuts also does pretzels, and they have them in little individual plastic, like, baggies that are, like, sealed. That keeps them, like, moist. And, like, when I fly back from being at home, I'll get, like, six of those in my bag and just, like, eat them the entire plane ride home. I like them. I don't need them hot, but I need them to have a little moisture.

[Nick Wiger]

Moisture. Yeah.

[Mike Mitchell]

I'm more of a sauce queen, and so I do like sauces, but I'm also eating a lot of subpar pretzels where the sauce is doing the heavy lift.

[Joe Wengert]

You got. Yeah, yeah.

[Mike Mitchell]

Something like a shopping. Yeah.

[Joe Wengert]

But I'm more of, like, a cheese or ranch or. What are you doing?

[Nick Wiger]

I do like a cheese more on a pretzel. I've gone over from mustard to cheese with the pretzel.

[Mike Mitchell]

I do like a cheese sauce, but if I've got something that's a little bit more higher quality, I'll Just do like a mustard.

[Nick Wiger]

You know, it's just spicy mustard or yellow mustard on that bad boy.

[Mike Mitchell]

I mean, well, I'm a bit of a heat seeker, so I generally go spicy. Spicy.

[Nick Wiger]

My dad was always a spicy brown mustard. And I was. I was always a. Yeah. Which made me feel like I'm doing something wrong because I was always a yellow. I'm just. I'm a yellow mustard man.

[Mike Mitchell]

Over spicy brown mustard houses for a take.

[Nick Wiger]

Okay.

[Mike Mitchell]

All mustards are valid.

[Nick Wiger]

I like that. And you know what? Chappie's does have the great packet that has both yellow and spicy brown mustard. That's. It's. It's all. All in one.

[Mike Mitchell]

It's all in one.

[Nick Wiger]

Yeah. I love that. All right, that's. This is good to know, because I did not know. And also, by the way, like, they are fit. When I was a boy, I went to Amish country and we made pretzels. Philadelphia is the. It's the pretzel. It's the home of the pretzel.

[Joe Wengert]

It's very different than, like. Because then I remember when I moved to New York and they're selling pretzels on the. On like the streetcar. It's like completely different thing. Yeah, the big pretzels, like, those are. And I think those are dog. Wow. I love that because those are all often very, very dry.

[Nick Wiger]

Fuck those pretzels. And the Knicks as well. But Wags, we got not as much of a twisted food to talk about here today. I'm not really doing too well with this. I don't know how to really get us into this, but we ate the grogu menu today.

[Mike Mitchell]

That's right. It's the.

[Nick Wiger]

Fuck you what?

[Amelia]

I was laughing at that segue.

[Nick Wiger]

I was trying to segue. I didn't know what to do.

[Emma]

It was good.

[Ryan]

It was good.

[Mike Mitchell]

It's the Burger King Mandalorian meal. This meal went national on May 4, which is today. We're recording it. Mandalorian Grogu in theaters, I believe, May 22. And Burger King has been doing a lot of these tie in menus recently. We covered the how to Train youn Dragon menu on here. I'm not sure if there was another one. We did in the interim. This one. There's a little bit more craft into it than the how to Train youn Dragon Meal. There's a few. There's some more bespoke items. And then there's also some unique packaging, which I guess we probably should have brought some of the packaging in here.

[Nick Wiger]

Yeah, we threw it all away.

[Ryan]

Hold on.

[Nick Wiger]

Can I do it? Can I try the segue again?

[Mike Mitchell]

Yeah, go ahead.

[Nick Wiger]

Pretzels are pretty twisted, but, you know, it's even more twisted.

[Joe Wengert]

Twisted.

[Nick Wiger]

The dark side of the force. Am I right?

[Mike Mitchell]

That's pretty great. The only thing I say, Mitch, is that I think your. Your usage of twisted evokes twisted metal and then just bums people out that, you know, you're.

[Nick Wiger]

You're no longer in the show season.

[Mike Mitchell]

And no stew, no stream.

[Nick Wiger]

Thank you, Wigs. Yes. Okay, so.

[Mike Mitchell]

All right, all right.

[Nick Wiger]

Give me a minute. I'll think of a new segue.

[Mike Mitchell]

Yeah, I mean, I think there's maybe something to do with, like, I. I think you can use twisted as a baseline, but I think you got to pivot to something else off of that.

[Nick Wiger]

God damn it. Okay, we'll think of. I'll think of something.

[Mike Mitchell]

Okay, great.

[Nick Wiger]

But we're talking about the. The Grou meal there. Burger King.

[Mike Mitchell]

The Burger King, Mandalorian and Grou meal.

[Nick Wiger]

Which there. There actually is a Grou meal, which is a smaller thing which we almost made a mist. Like, it's just a kid's meal, right?

[Joe Wengert]

It's just the chicken.

[Nick Wiger]

It's just the chicken fries.

[Amelia]

But this overall mando meal or something like that.

[Mike Mitchell]

Yeah, this overall is themed for the.

[Nick Wiger]

The.

[Mike Mitchell]

The bounty bundle is the big one. But this overall. What I'm saying is the menu is themed for the Mandalorian and Grou. The film. Where are you on. On Burger King?

[Joe Wengert]

Like, just generally, I have very fond memories of it. I liked the BK kids club. I didn't like it when they changed their fries.

[Mike Mitchell]

I don't like anyone.

[Joe Wengert]

And I was like, more of like. I don't know, just. I was more of a McDonald's guy and more. We were in McDonald's house.

[Mike Mitchell]

Did you have a favorite member of the BK Kids Club? Vid guy? Yeah, Wheels guy.

[Joe Wengert]

I think Wheels was the main one that I remembered. I remember the. The one time Burger King got me was when ALF came out. They did ALF puppets. And it was like. I want to say it was like every week for a month, there was a different alf hand puppet. One of them, he was a chef. Can't remember the rest of them, but I like, had all of them. Wow. Because I was very into alf and I feel like, like, that's kind of like a high end thing for like a happy Meal.

[Mike Mitchell]

That's pretty good. Now.

[Nick Wiger]

Now I was also very into. I don't like alf anymore because he is a cat killer.

[Joe Wengert]

Yes.

[Nick Wiger]

But I. I got like the alf Trading cards when I was a boy. Did you get those where they're playing baseball on, on in Melnac? Mel. Is it melmac?

[Mike Mitchell]

I think it's Mel Mac.

[Nick Wiger]

Yeah, Melmac.

[Joe Wengert]

I tried to get into the ALF animated series and there were like action figures and stuff, but I was like, I. You need. You need. Need the Tanner family for ALF to really work for me. Yeah, that's my al.

[Nick Wiger]

Yes. Yeah. But I did.

[Joe Wengert]

I had like a Teddy Ruxpin type thing that was an alpha. You'd put a tape in its back and it would play and it would speak the tape.

[Mike Mitchell]

How fun is that?

[Joe Wengert]

That was fun.

[Nick Wiger]

Pretty fun.

[Mike Mitchell]

Sounds pretty fun.

[Nick Wiger]

I gotta tell you. I, I just looking. I liked Boomer, the redhead. I had a little bit of a crush on.

[Mike Mitchell]

Yeah, I knew he had a crush

[Nick Wiger]

on one of them.

[Mike Mitchell]

I couldn't remember the name of the girl.

[Nick Wiger]

And Snaps was the other. The other. I think I had a crush on both on.

[Joe Wengert]

On the ALF show.

[Nick Wiger]

Oh, no, no. On. On.

[Joe Wengert]

Oh, oh, on the bkk.

[Nick Wiger]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. What did you have a crush on the. All right, all right.

[Mike Mitchell]

Do you have the full roster there, Mitch? I do have a roster here.

[Nick Wiger]

I can, I can give you a little rundown. There's a Jaws, right there is a Jaws. Yes. There's iq, who is the smart one.

[Mike Mitchell]

Yeah.

[Nick Wiger]

A little nerdy guy with glasses. There's Kid Vid. That's the famous one.

[Joe Wengert]

He's cool.

[Nick Wiger]

There's Snaps, the blonde girl with the camera. There's Lingo, who is a Latino fellow who I'm guessing also speaks different languages is my guess. There's Jaws and there's. Sorry, there's Boomer. Sorry, Boomers. There is this little white red haired girl who I had a crush on as a boy. And then Wheels, the guy who is the one who was in a wheelchair is Wheels. And the dog's name is J.D. kind of a boring name for.

[Mike Mitchell]

Boring name for a dog.

[Nick Wiger]

Yeah. I was a member of the Burger King's kid kids club. I, I got like, I got Burger King kids club stuff sent to me for a very too long of a. A period of time.

[Joe Wengert]

That was like a mail away thing.

[Nick Wiger]

It was a mail. Yeah, yeah. They would send you like a little thing every. Remember when they did a lot of stuff like that? Like I was in the Nintendo Power kid, which I know you were as well.

[Mike Mitchell]

Yeah, I joined the Nintendo Fun club.

[Nick Wiger]

Yeah. Is that what it was called?

[Mike Mitchell]

The Nintendo Fun club?

[Nick Wiger]

Oh, I did not.

[Mike Mitchell]

Yeah, you remember the Nintendo Fun Club. And then you got Nintendo Power As a result.

[Nick Wiger]

Okay. All right then. I was also a member of the Nintendo Fun Club.

[Mike Mitchell]

In. In the game Punch out earlier, Mike Tyson's Punch out then got retconned. Replaced Mike Tyson with Mr. Dream. Well, it was because he went to prison.

[Nick Wiger]

But yeah, no, I, I got it. I was, I was joking. I understood why it happened.

[Emma]

But.

[Mike Mitchell]

But they, they in the Punch out there is the. Your. Your trainer Doc is will give you little like bits of advice in between rounds. Your boxer Little Mac. And one of his bits of advice is join the Nintendo Fun Club Mac.

[Nick Wiger]

I did not know that.

[Mike Mitchell]

Yeah.

[Nick Wiger]

But did they ever. Did they ever turn it back or is it still just called Punch is.

[Mike Mitchell]

It's no, it's still Punch Out.

[Nick Wiger]

It's just punching.

[Mike Mitchell]

Yeah. I don't think they re released released it but that's easy to find it wrong.

[Nick Wiger]

And then Nintendo's never really done like a celebrity tie in thing ever like right. Ever again.

[Mike Mitchell]

You ever beat Mike Tyson?

[Nick Wiger]

No, I got pretty far in that game, but I never beat Tyson.

[Mike Mitchell]

Kicked his ass.

[Nick Wiger]

You did, did you?

[Mike Mitchell]

I did. It was like the first time I really dedicated myself to like I'm going to finish this game. And I just sat down and I just like did it over and over again. Kept learning the patterns, kept fighting him, kept losing to him. Would make a little bit more progress. Progress. Eventually got to it where I could knock him out in the second round. It was so good. Mike Tyson.

[Nick Wiger]

Yeah. You were really good. You were really good at Punch Out.

[Mike Mitchell]

I could just dodge. I knew. I knew every single one of his tells. I probably couldn't do it anymore. Although with a little bit of practice I'm sure he could get into muscle memory. But, but as a kid. Yeah, absolutely.

[Nick Wiger]

What happens at the game.

[Joe Wengert]

Yeah.

[Nick Wiger]

What's the Punch him and he, he falls into a prison cell.

[Joe Wengert]

You get. And you get interviewed by Barbara Wall. You're married to Robin.

[Mike Mitchell]

Given my memory is the. The ending is pretty slow fight. It's just like you know, like

[Joe Wengert]

and

[Mike Mitchell]

little Max doing that and it's just like you are the champion now. I think you maybe get one little fun graphic.

[Nick Wiger]

Does Tyson say like good match or whatever? Like do you get anything out of him or no. Or he's like, I don't know if

[Mike Mitchell]

he has some parting words for you or not. I think you just knock him out and you move on with your life. But I don't know. So

[Nick Wiger]

he leaves and goes and raises his pigeons or whatever he ended up doing. I, I didn't know that you were so that's that that you got really good. That guy, he's notoriously tough stuff too. I'm impressed.

[Mike Mitchell]

I did beat the Dark Souls boss of the, of the eight bit era.

[Joe Wengert]

It is. I'm actually remembering I did beat it once and there is. Maybe you didn't get it, but I got a message from him that says, I hope this isn't a spoiler, but I'm gonna be in the movie the hangover. Wow. 20, 30 years from now, I'm gonna be in a movie called the Hangover.

[Mike Mitchell]

Amazing. Like you were saying, development takes forever.

[Joe Wengert]

So I guess they were working for time. A long, long time.

[Mike Mitchell]

And he stayed attached. God bless him.

[Nick Wiger]

Yeah, he did. He, yeah, he never gave up on it. I I that's the beautiful story WS I I, I love Mike Tyson Ponchow. I and I and, but I, I don't, I'm not a fan of Star wars anymore. I don't.

[Mike Mitchell]

You're not a fan of Star wars anymore?

[Nick Wiger]

I love the original Star Wars. I'm just saying the new Star wars stuff, I don't really watch. I like John Favro, I like Faro. I I Favreau. I, I like Swingers. I like a lot of stuff that he's done in the past. I'm not sure how I feel about this movie. I think it's a fun thing to do, but I, I'm not, I'm not very, I'm not overly excited for this. How did you feel about the actual packaging? Did you, were you impressed? I like that we got a big Happy Meal.

[Mike Mitchell]

I'll say that the packaging I thought they put some effort into and I like that because so many of these meals are half assed and this one, it, it's like a reskinned existing item that they just like call like, like the, if they were going to do this, like, like, like Denny's has been doing these menus recently. It like they would just re release the, like the Rodeo Burger or something like that and call it like, hey, here's the, this is now the Mandalorian Burger. You know, I mean they, they do no, no alterations their base menu and it wouldn't come in any fun packaging.

[Nick Wiger]

So here's my take. Do you, they're, they're redoing the Whopper for this. They're giving you a different version of the Whopper, which Burger King does a lot like McDonald's won't do a different version of the Big Mac really ever. They'll do, they'll do the, the The Big Arch or whatever. But the Big Mac is like, that's our sandwich. We're not going to share it. How do you feel about reworking the Whopper? Do you like that?

[Mike Mitchell]

Well, I do. I. If they're going to make it the special meal, I do. I don't just want like a Whopper. It's like the Mandalorian meal, but it's a Whopper that comes in a Mandalorian packaging. It's just like, that's not like, that's

[Nick Wiger]

nothing exciting, but this is a different Whopper.

[Mike Mitchell]

It's a bespoke item. Yeah, I like that. I like that about it. But I, I want it to be a, a at least a little bit unique. Now McDonald's has McDonald's whole thing is they're. It's all tied to Happy Meals, so it's like, it's a different sort of experience there. You know what you're getting? You're getting your. Your old favorites, but you're getting a toy with them.

[Nick Wiger]

But here's my other take is that I like the regular Whopper more than I like all the. The variations.

[Mike Mitchell]

I do, too. The varietals are not as good. It's.

[Nick Wiger]

It's.

[Mike Mitchell]

It's mostly the case with Oreos. Although golden Oreos are better. Birthday Oreos are better, but. But the default Oreos kind of hard to top. I do think this is the. This Whopper.

[Nick Wiger]

I like a Golden Oreo more than a regular Oreo. I.

[Mike Mitchell]

Me too. That's what I was saying. I like. That's what I was saying. Those are exceptions.

[Nick Wiger]

Okay.

[Mike Mitchell]

I like the Golden Oreo. I think Golden Birthday Oreo is my favorite Oreo.

[Joe Wengert]

Over. Right?

[Amelia]

Wow.

[Mike Mitchell]

But the, the. The BBQ Bounty Whopper, which is the one we have, which is a. A, it's in a carton shaped like a Mandalorian's helmet, which it's not really.

[Emma]

It's just.

[Mike Mitchell]

It's just the normal carton with the Mandalorian.

[Joe Wengert]

Got the designs.

[Nick Wiger]

You were pissed. You were pissed about this.

[Mike Mitchell]

Well, because it was promise shape. Like, I was like, okay, we're going to get in the form factor of. Of Din Jaran's famed helmet, which he never takes off except now he takes it off all the time. Time always in a dude's face.

[Nick Wiger]

Did he. Did he did. Did he do the body work in that show or was he just like, not. Or was he just doing the voiceover?

[Mike Mitchell]

I think a lot. I think he does some of it, but I think a lot of the stuff was done by A stunt guy.

[Nick Wiger]

Okay.

[Mike Mitchell]

Yeah.

[Nick Wiger]

All right.

[Amelia]

Oh, I thought in season one, he. He did the body too, and then

[Mike Mitchell]

maybe it got taken over. I don't fucking know. I don't know the workflow. He doesn't take his helmet off in season one at the very end.

[Emma]

He does.

[Mike Mitchell]

At the very end.

[Joe Wengert]

He does.

[Mike Mitchell]

Yeah. But it, but it's like, but like, that would be the sort of thing that would be. His whole, Whole. His whole presence in the show would basically be non existent. He wasn't taking his helmet off. So. Yeah, I don't. I don't know.

[Joe Wengert]

I remember being impressed that it stayed on for as long as it did because that's, that's what always drove me nuts about, like, the Batman and Spider man movies of, like, the 80s and 90s is like, they're always ripping that off at the end, and it's like, that's the one thing that Spider man really shouldn't do is take his mask off. But I understand why.

[Nick Wiger]

That's.

[Joe Wengert]

That's adult. As a man.

[Nick Wiger]

As a man. I get it too. I did. But. But I, I feel like it felt like with that show, he just wasn't there. That's why I thought it was. That's why I felt like it was on all the time.

[Mike Mitchell]

Well, it, it may have. It may have been the case as it continued and as he got, you know, busier, I, they, they may have been. They may be doing more stuff with the.

[Nick Wiger]

I'm just gonna be honest. I don't care about Mandalorian Grou. I don't know. I don't give a. About these.

[Mike Mitchell]

I don't either. Like, I, I, I thought the can't. First season was fun. I liked it.

[Nick Wiger]

It's not even. It's whatever. The first season.

[Mike Mitchell]

Yeah, it's like Hercules. Star Wars Hercules. Like, it's Kevin Sorbo Hercules. It's. It's like a fun serial show. There's some, Some good adventure episodes. You know, there's some good guest stars. You get all the way through two seasons, and then that, that's when the Grou and It feels like the Grou and, And man, we live in a

[Nick Wiger]

world where I have to be nice to Grou. I have to be nice to this little.

[Mike Mitchell]

I think the backlash is coming. The Mandalorian Groku baby.

[Nick Wiger]

He is. He's. But he's very old. He's act. He's acting like a baby, but he's 100.

[Joe Wengert]

If, if that placenta pill is turning you into a baby, then you can be mad at Him. Because you are on equal footing and

[Nick Wiger]

you are two babies that I hope I. Then I hope I'm turning into a baby, because I would love to. I love to give that. And he's 50. He's 50 years old. He's acting like a baby.

[Mike Mitchell]

Let me, Let me tell you.

[Nick Wiger]

Somebody say that about me a lot of the time.

[Mike Mitchell]

Yeah.

[Nick Wiger]

What's that?

[Mike Mitchell]

With his Tanner tantrum you're throwing? You kind of are.

[Nick Wiger]

I know, I get it, I get it. I know there's a lot of. There's a lot of. You know what? There's a lot of things that I, that I do. That is the same thing with Grogu. He's a 50 year old and he's acting like a baby. But I don't care about, I don't give a. About this little guy.

[Mike Mitchell]

You don't have to.

[Nick Wiger]

I'm like, he also, also, he also is just a creation for money. That's like always what, like they remember whoever it was who was the head of Disney was like, show me my little billion dollar invention. Like that. Like, that's like what it was the entire time time was this thing was, was made in a, in, in. In a way that like people just, they didn't care about what it was. They cared about what it was going to create money, like, financially.

[Mike Mitchell]

I was.

[Nick Wiger]

Doesn't that suck? Doesn't that bad.

[Mike Mitchell]

It's cynical. But I mean, I also just, I do like the character design of Grogu. I think he's cute. And I also think that Yoda would be Zoda, but he's little, he's cute,

[Amelia]

he's better than Yoda.

[Mike Mitchell]

And also, oh, fuck you.

[Nick Wiger]

Why?

[Joe Wengert]

He's not the one Wild take.

[Nick Wiger]

He's better than Yoda.

[Amelia]

The cutest thing I have ever seen in my life.

[Joe Wengert]

They are. You cannot compare the two. I know it sounds insane, but there couldn't be two more different characters to me.

[Nick Wiger]

And he steals everything about Yoda, just puts it into a kitten.

[Joe Wengert]

Did you see, I saw a video of Joe Dante this weekend. Did you see this Joe Dante video? They showed some like, work cut of like Gremlins and they did like, oh, yes, I heard. And Joe Dante was there and they asked him about, about Grogu on the red carpet and he was like, they ripped off Gizmo. And I was kind of like, yeah, Joe Dante, they did rip off Gizmo. I didn't put it together until this rant. And I was like, oh, my God,

[Nick Wiger]

you haven't seen Gremlins?

[Amelia]

No, I Haven't they did.

[Mike Mitchell]

They did rip off Gizmo, you're right. But. But I think it's well executed and, and like to me, Grogu is not the problem with Mandalorian. The problem with Mandalorian, he's the best part of it. I think he's the best part of it. The problem with Mandalorian is that they stretch this thin premise on. On interminably and it runs out of steam. It ran out of steam by the second season, but I enjoyed it through the end of the second season. The, the raining. Is it three or four seasons? How many times? How many seasons they've done of this show? Like I'm just like. I eventually fell off of it entirely and this movie's coming out. I was like this movie should have come out five years ago.

[Joe Wengert]

Where does the movie fit in the timeline of the show?

[Mike Mitchell]

I don't know.

[Nick Wiger]

Yeah, but if I was a bad guy in that I would drop kick that little and be over with it. He's a little I gotta say saying oh, you're mad at me.

[Mike Mitchell]

Shut up.

[Emma]

It looks like you were saying you were to drop kick Amelia because you said drop kick that little and point

[Nick Wiger]

it right at Amelia. I would love to drop kick a

[Amelia]

rather have you drop kick me than Grou.

[Mike Mitchell]

Wow, very noble of you. This the thing you Grogu wouldn't need your protection because cuz Grogu is force sensitive. We seen him wreck house. I think he'd up Mitch.

[Nick Wiger]

You think you would? Oh, he would not me up.

[Mike Mitchell]

He would absolutely he on you. He do some on you. You wouldn't be able to move.

[Nick Wiger]

He do some what on me horse on you that I. I would.

[Mike Mitchell]

He put you flat on your ass with a force.

[Nick Wiger]

He, he. He has the power to do that. Yeah, I would stomp his ass

[Mike Mitchell]

old

[Nick Wiger]

acting like a baby freak.

[Mike Mitchell]

That's a fun twist though. Like, like, like again I think the pilot of it is fun is like he's got a 50 year old bounty goes. They reveal a 50 year old bounty. It's a baby Yoda. That's really clever. I like I don't have a problem with that. I there's. And again thinking of it like. Well again like the Kevin Sorbo Hercules. It's like what I liked about is like oh, it's kind of low stakes. It's just a little slice of the Star wars universe. We're just kind of doing this fun action genre thing that, that you know, I mean but now they've like trying to turn this Big expensive thing. And I. I don't really. I just don't really see this as something that people are going to want to see in imax. I could always be wrong, but we do. They do have this big tie in menu as a result. Let me read the rest of what's going on with the BK.

[Nick Wiger]

He's 50 years old. He's got an infant see fetish. She's a freak.

[Mike Mitchell]

The idea is that they. That because Yoda has such a long lifespan, lived hundreds of years, that they're, you know, in their period of. Of being a child would be extended.

[Nick Wiger]

Okay, can I speak to that? Yeah, that's stupid.

[Mike Mitchell]

I think it's kind of fun.

[Emma]

Like, Lord of the Rings. Isn't Aragorn like 90?

[Mike Mitchell]

Yeah, he's.

[Nick Wiger]

Yeah, but, oh, he wasn't like at like 50. He wasn't like. He wasn't doing that.

[Emma]

Maybe at 20. He was. Yeah.

[Mike Mitchell]

We don't see. We don't see how the babe, like, the. Because they're out. The elves are immortal. We don't know how long their period.

[Nick Wiger]

Elves aren't acting like babies for 20 years.

[Mike Mitchell]

Who knows, saying, I don't know. I know they haven't shown a baby elf in the Lord of the Rings franchise.

[Nick Wiger]

Yeah, because it's. It's cynical and it's. I mean, they will, I'm sure, soon at some point.

[Mike Mitchell]

It's a good idea.

[Amelia]

It's also so nice to have a practical puppet.

[Mike Mitchell]

I do like that in the modern era.

[Amelia]

It's just so cute.

[Nick Wiger]

You are okay with. I'm okay with Muppet Babies. I like Muppet Babies.

[Mike Mitchell]

Muppet Babies. You're openly hostile towards Grogan and also Babu Frick and I don't really have a problem with either of them. Like, Like, I think. I think this is. This is just. It's a microcosm of your disdain.

[Nick Wiger]

I'm going to see Mandalorian Grogu there. There goes Ryan. He's left the. The building. The. The building is now empty. Wow, that's us. I'm going in hopes that Grogu and Babu Frick die in this movie.

[Mike Mitchell]

I mean, look, if Grogu dies, it's

[Joe Wengert]

like children crying everywhere.

[Nick Wiger]

Me standing up and applauding.

[Mike Mitchell]

If Grogu dies or the Mandalorian dies in this movie, it's like, okay, I guess this is a reason to be a movie. It's like concluding a saga. But they're not going to do that because they want to just like, well, this is working for us. Let's just keep it going.

[Nick Wiger]

Yeah. You sent a clip today that looked like dog.

[Mike Mitchell]

That clip. That hop on clip where it's. Where it's grogu doing like it looks like a.

[Nick Wiger]

And to give you. And to look. Everyone always thinks you sent it and said bad clip alert. That's what you said when you sent it.

[Mike Mitchell]

Yeah. It's really bad.

[Nick Wiger]

It's bad.

[Mike Mitchell]

I don't know. Maybe the movie will be good. I want.

[Nick Wiger]

I'm sorry. I just thought I was being too nice to this thing and I.

[Mike Mitchell]

No one's thought you were being too nice to it. You better ranting about Disney Star wars for 10 years.

[Amelia]

I just watched the hop on clip. It's incredible.

[Nick Wiger]

Yeah. Amelia, what the is going on?

[Amelia]

Hilarious. This looks amazing. And I'm not even being ironic.

[Nick Wiger]

You're out of your mind.

[Amelia]

It looks great.

[Emma]

The way he hops in on the

[Amelia]

way he hops in is the cutest thing I have ever witnessed.

[Mike Mitchell]

It looks drawn on there, but yeah, it looks like a. It looks like they forgot to include a jump animation. Animation.

[Emma]

Yeah.

[Mike Mitchell]

Like it's just a character model.

[Emma]

Yeah. It literally just goes up down.

[Mike Mitchell]

It doesn't have any anticipation. It doesn't have any.

[Nick Wiger]

We're saying they reverse it. It's fake. It's just all cg. They didn't. There's nothing.

[Amelia]

There's no c. There's. It's no. Not practical at all.

[Nick Wiger]

Probably not. No.

[Emma]

In the IMAX movie.

[Mike Mitchell]

I'm sure that. I'm sure there's some practical stuff in there, but that.

[Emma]

That.

[Mike Mitchell]

I think that effect looks very bad.

[Joe Wengert]

Not enough for Joe Dante, I'll tell you that.

[Mike Mitchell]

Let's talk about.

[Nick Wiger]

I want to say that like three hour cut of Gremlins or whatever. It sounds awesome.

[Mike Mitchell]

So we're disappointed. The barbecue Bounty Whopper doesn' A Mandalorian shaped helmet.

[Nick Wiger]

That was.

[Mike Mitchell]

At least. That's me. I'm disappointed in that. But it does have the. It is fully skinned with Mandalorian art. It has Swiss cheese, crispy pickle chips, bacon, lettuce, tomatoes, and creamy bounty barbecue sauce on a bun. I didn't taste what was distinct about the bounty barbecue sauce. It tasted like barbecue sauce to.

[Joe Wengert]

It tasted just like barbecue sauce, which I don't like on.

[Nick Wiger]

Oh, you're.

[Mike Mitchell]

You're a sauce skeptic.

[Joe Wengert]

Yeah.

[Nick Wiger]

You know what's funny is that I don't know if I would have known it was barbecue sauce. I just thought it tasted kind of like a nothing. So, like it just tasted like ketchupy or something. Like I didn't I had no idea. I thought this was. Because it's a. It's a light color, right? It's kind of like a. Like an orangey.

[Mike Mitchell]

Same deal with the cheese. I was like, what kind of cheese is this? Is this white American? You're like, it's Swiss. I'm like, had some of the cheese in isolation, is like. I guess it's got holes in it, but it doesn't taste like anything distinct. It's. It's a vague sort of assemblage of flavors and textures, but it's fundamentally a Whopper. So I liked it from that standpoint. Yes, I'd rather have a regular Whopper.

[Nick Wiger]

Yeah, I would rather have a regular Whopper, but I actually thought that the burgers itself was okay.

[Mike Mitchell]

Yeah, I thought it was okay.

[Nick Wiger]

Yeah.

[Joe Wengert]

I love pickles. I was excited about the crispy pickles, and I like that that is now a thing. I feel like that, like, pickle flavor is a. Is a flavor that these places keep going to. Like. The Grinch salt was pickles. Oh, yeah, right.

[Nick Wiger]

Did you think you got enough taste of the. The pickle chips, to me, were almost just like fried flakes.

[Joe Wengert]

I wished that. I feel like they were getting overpowered by the barbecue sauce.

[Nick Wiger]

I would have.

[Joe Wengert]

I would have. If I could have had double pickle flakes, I would have.

[Nick Wiger]

Yeah, we could have. Maybe. Maybe could have. We could have tried to up the pickle flakes. But I'm going to say this.

[Joe Wengert]

Not on day one. They're basically. They're holding it together. I'm not going to ask that on May 4th. Well, it's not in the spirit of the day.

[Nick Wiger]

It. That's right. It's. It's made. I should be nicer to Grogu. On May 4.

[Joe Wengert]

I.

[Nick Wiger]

Speaking of it being day one, yesterday wogs your day off on the phone, I text the Doughboys chain. I said, should I get Burger King today? Because I wasn't sure if we had planned on eating it beforehand or I didn't know what the deal was. I know there was a BK lunch, but I was like, I could just eat this all and then not eat like shit on a Monday. And Emilia was like, yes. And I was like, okay, I'm gonna go up and get the.

[Joe Wengert]

The. The.

[Nick Wiger]

The Mandalorian meal. And I got up there, there, and there was no Mandalorian meal. And I texted Amelia, and I was like, I don't think it's happening today. And you thought I was just asking your permission if I could get BK for the Day.

[Amelia]

Yeah. So you're. You're leaving out a lot of context here or you're. You're adding too much context.

[Ryan]

Oh, okay.

[Nick Wiger]

All right.

[Amelia]

What you said was in the group chat, should I get bk? Me and Susser both say, yeah, like, I thought he was. Was like, I'm going to be naughty. I know we're having it tomorrow, but should I get.

[Joe Wengert]

And you were like, have fun. If you want to talk about interpret it.

[Amelia]

Yes, that's how I interpreted it. If I had known, I would have said, it comes out tomorrow.

[Nick Wiger]

I. I don't. I think that you have took. Taken away context. Hold on a second.

[Mike Mitchell]

I'm trying to remember because I thought I'd sent. I thought I'd sent to the chat already.

[Amelia]

Says it comes out May 4th.

[Mike Mitchell]

Yeah, I say that.

[Nick Wiger]

Should I get Today. I said there was a Today in ku.

[Amelia]

I know.

[Emma]

Yeah.

[Nick Wiger]

She's saying, you know, but she said, should I get bk?

[Amelia]

Should I get BK today? Yeah, go for it, King.

[Nick Wiger]

And then she said, yeah. And then. And then. And then Evan Susser said, get a chicken long boy for me. And I said, I should get it today, question mark. And I said, okay, I'll get it. So there. And so I was. So you. You thought that I was just asking you permission.

[Amelia]

Yeah.

[Nick Wiger]

To be naughty.

[Joe Wengert]

So now you went there and they didn't have it, and then did you get a different be careful item?

[Nick Wiger]

I did get bk.

[Mike Mitchell]

I knew it.

[Nick Wiger]

No, you're pointing at me like you knew it. I did not want to get BK on 2 days in a row.

[Emma]

You could have driven away from the beach.

[Nick Wiger]

I could have driven away. I could have driven away from the bk, but I did. I had to do an audition. So you knew this. Which I finished today, which was fine. So I did part of it last night and then I did the other part of it today, but I didn't need to get bk, but I'm happy that I did.

[Amelia]

I'll say that you side texted me.

[Emma]

And then.

[Amelia]

And then you were like, when have I ever, like, asked permission for that kind of stuff?

[Emma]

We do that all the time. I feel like.

[Amelia]

So then I typed it in my phone, like in text search. Should I get. And then one of the first things that comes up is Mitch saying, hmm, should I go get some free pizza?

[Mike Mitchell]

Yes, but that's.

[Nick Wiger]

That's me. That's me thinking out loud.

[Emma]

That's what it sounded like, like, yesterday.

[Nick Wiger]

No, but should I get. We're doing BK for the show.

[Mike Mitchell]

I thought you knew because it comes

[Joe Wengert]

out on May 4th. Today. I'm on Mitch's side.

[Nick Wiger]

Hell, yes.

[Emma]

But. No, but we had talked about it coming out May 4th in that same group chat multiple times before I found

[Mike Mitchell]

it because it was hard to see

[Nick Wiger]

because I stay out of this.

[Mike Mitchell]

I searched. I was trying to search for May 4th and unfortunately just brought up text messages for May 4th, but I searched for Mandalorian. I had texted the group chat, the Mandalorian and Grogu Burger King meals out on May 4th. 4th. So that was established. That was something you could have read.

[Nick Wiger]

When was this? Not on Sunday, though.

[Mike Mitchell]

No, this was on April 27th.

[Joe Wengert]

Well, when we picked the meal.

[Emma]

That's over also, you know, like, Google exist.

[Mike Mitchell]

You also could have said, like, is it out yet? You could have googled it on your own.

[Amelia]

We always get the meal before the record.

[Joe Wengert]

Yeah, I. I was so excited because I found out I was doing this this weekend and then you were texting me, do you have a place you want to go? Or I'll send you the list. I said, send me the list. And already I said to Holly, you're going to have to help me figure out.

[Emma]

Out.

[Joe Wengert]

I was gonna really agonize over that. And then there was another email that was like, change of plans. Mandalorian and Grogu come out.

[Nick Wiger]

Like, yes.

[Joe Wengert]

I felt like I was like, here for something important or something. We must.

[Mike Mitchell]

It's an emergency.

[Nick Wiger]

You have no other choice.

[Mike Mitchell]

Gotta do it.

[Amelia]

This is the way.

[Joe Wengert]

This is the way.

[Nick Wiger]

Emil, if you're so on top of it, why are we not wearing Mandalorian crowns right now?

[Mike Mitchell]

This is a thing.

[Nick Wiger]

Okay, I did and Weger is pissed.

[Mike Mitchell]

I wore Mandalorian crowns. Crowns that we, you know, I would have liked to have had. But we did not get the Mandalorian.

[Emma]

Were they available at rbk?

[Amelia]

I didn't know they existed.

[Mike Mitchell]

Yeah. So this is. This, this is something that.

[Nick Wiger]

So we're now pissed off. Weger's pissed off.

[Mike Mitchell]

I'm okay. I would have liked to have had Mandalorian crowns, but it's fine.

[Amelia]

And you're pissed off because the garlic sauce wasn't there.

[Nick Wiger]

Look, did you fuck up really bad? Yes.

[Emma]

That sounded like a BK fuck up.

[Amelia]

No, I should have checked before I

[Nick Wiger]

did say to her. I was like, oh, get ranch. But make sure you say it at the end because we need garlic. Sa I. What? It's not your fault they forgot the gallery. Of course it's nothing is your fault. The fact that I was at BK isn't your fault. It was fun to give you about it. But it did give me a chance, Wags, to eat the original Whopper, which is now redone and new. So I did have a Whopper yesterday.

[Mike Mitchell]

What you think about that Whopper?

[Nick Wiger]

I, they've changed the Whopper. But I gotta say this, and this is the two, this is the two things for from this, from yesterday and today. Is that bun, Is the bun a little too, like stale?

[Mike Mitchell]

The bun's got a little bunnier.

[Nick Wiger]

The bun's got a little bunny or a little like, like kind of like the bread is cracklier or something.

[Emma]

What exactly is new about the new Whopper?

[Nick Wiger]

They just are like we're like having more fresh ingredients and like we're making it better. It's the Domino's thing again too where

[Joe Wengert]

they're trying, we're trying.

[Nick Wiger]

That is kind of what it is.

[Mike Mitchell]

Which I like versus Wendy's is just like we're, we're trying to save money, we're making everything shittier.

[Nick Wiger]

Yes.

[Mike Mitchell]

And then they are, they're like, check the new and improved spicy chicken sandwiches. Like this is you, you've inshid it, you've made it worse. And your marketing is like new and improved.

[Nick Wiger]

I'll go off on this. Do you mind if I go off on this for a second?

[Joe Wengert]

Of course.

[Nick Wiger]

Imagine McDonald's changing the big Mac. Like what the fuck are you doing? You stupid fucking assholes. It's so crazy that like whoever's in charge, they're still like their restaurants are closing. But it doesn't matter to any of these people who are like, it matters to the public because the public, public, you know, like a lot of people eat fast food and depend on fast food. Unfortunately, that's the truth. And the prices are just getting higher at Wendy's and the, the quality is getting worse and these people don't give a shit. And then they changed the thing. That's their Big Mac. They made it worse. They changed the ingredients. Like what the fuck are you thinking?

[Mike Mitchell]

I mean it's like they basically, they saw what private equity did to Toys R Us, you know, a decade plus ago and we're like, hey, that was a wild success. It's this mafia bust out approach towards, towards retail, towards, towards businesses and it's just like. And they did the same with thing with Red Lobster.

[Nick Wiger]

I'm sorry to say it again, people up against the fucking wall.

[Mike Mitchell]

I'm sorry, but we'll hollow, hollowed out. We'll, we'll use as much, you know, we'll, we'll make, we'll slice everything to have like the, the. The biggest margins possible and like the worst quality we can get away with. And we can also, you know, just like make that gradually worse over time so people won't, won't notice it as, as prominently. In the same way they'll, they'll like, slowly ratchet up gas prices. It's, it's just, you know, it's, it's. It sucks. It's the insignification of everything, which is cliche to say, but that's where we are.

[Nick Wiger]

But isn't it insane to, to like, change? Like, I get Burger King being like, we're gonna, we're gonna like, put. And. And also I, I don't think that the new bun is working as well.

[Mike Mitchell]

No, I think so.

[Nick Wiger]

They have to figure something out with this, this bun.

[Mike Mitchell]

This bun is what Natalie would characterize as glue bread. It's kind of like this weird sort of like, like texture to it that, that like tastes. Paste almost pasted together.

[Nick Wiger]

Yes.

[Mike Mitchell]

Yeah.

[Nick Wiger]

Yeah. And. And that was today and yesterday. That was my hold up. The fries were great yesterday when I got fries. Wow. We did not get fries today.

[Mike Mitchell]

And we got the Imperial Cheddar Ranch Tots, which are crispy tots with melt stuffed with melted cheddar cheese and fluffy potatoes and ranch seasoning served in a Star wars themed carton. That was a fun carton. And I thought these, these, these tots were hitting. I liked them.

[Nick Wiger]

Yeah, I thought they were pretty fun. Yeah. Put it. Put in the. I wish they were a little, A little bit more cheesy and you kind of lose. You lose that a little bit with. In the deep fryer or whatever. I guess. I wish they were slightly more cheesy, but I thought they were fun.

[Mike Mitchell]

I didn't mind those bad boys one bit.

[Joe Wengert]

What'd you think I would want to go have them like, fresh at the restaurant?

[Mike Mitchell]

Super fresh.

[Joe Wengert]

It felt like even just in the car ride they lost something, but they're still delicious. I like them.

[Nick Wiger]

If you can get back behind. If you can get in the kitchen and grab it straight from fryer, I think that is probably the best way These things are. Are our, Our, our taste. So we. Ours traveled but. But we didn't get the garlic sauce for the, the, the chicken fries, but we. Or I ordered some new ones on grubhub and they came and we got just one. Finally we got one.

[Emma]

Did you order from a different one? A different Burger King?

[Nick Wiger]

No, same one. Amelia was that. Yeah, she up really bad here.

[Mike Mitchell]

Here's the thing. It's. It's it's on the menu. It's Grogu's Garlic chicken Fries. Crispy chicken fries breaded with parmesan and garlic seasoning and served with garlic sauce in a Grogu carton. So it comes with garlic sauce by default. Did you did like. But you. You didn't specify garlic sauce so they didn't.

[Nick Wiger]

This is. I wrote. I wrote a whole thing that was confusing to her that I was like. I was like I want ranch to dip the tater tots in the ranch. And I was like ask for that for at the end because I don't like. I want the garlic. So I said all of this and I felt like a big fat loser because like I'm asked because I'm like trying to be clear that I want the garlic sauce. Which you got.

[Amelia]

It would be in the box. Which I should have loved. It was not and they weren't. But I did ask for the ranch.

[Mike Mitchell]

But wait, when did you ask for the Ranch?

[Amelia]

At the end.

[Mike Mitchell]

So I bet they. I wonder if that was. That was like do you want any sauce? And that's where you like I guess asked for the garlic sauce instead. Which. How would you have known to do this?

[Joe Wengert]

Well maybe they thought you were asking a sub ranch for garlic.

[Mike Mitchell]

That's what I think they did online.

[Amelia]

I made it the Gar. The Yoda sauce.

[Mike Mitchell]

This sounds like they fucked up.

[Amelia]

Yeah, well I should have checked. Usually you should check before you quite

[Nick Wiger]

a few fuck ups piling up here and then.

[Amelia]

Well the thing is I. I wanted to make sure that the main items were there because they did forget your burger. And I had to. I had to say oh shit.

[Emma]

Usually if you did this, you pick this up so it's different. But usually if you did like a doordash delivery, you can't open those. The boxes like the theme boxes, they're sealed. So like they wouldn't have a doordash driver wouldn't have even been able to look.

[Nick Wiger]

Oh no, the door. Doordash driver would have like.

[Emma]

They would just have to. They must have just.

[Nick Wiger]

Oh my. Our. Our grubhub guy did get it, did he? It came there one thing of sauce did come.

[Mike Mitchell]

Let's talk about the garlic chicken fries first.

[Nick Wiger]

But I just want to say like

[Amelia]

you know, I'm on. I'm on thin ice.

[Emma]

No, it seems like it.

[Nick Wiger]

I just would never ask you permission to go to Burger King for real.

[Mike Mitchell]

We do that all the time.

[Nick Wiger]

So I mean it's. You do it too. You say I get this. I Don't really care what the you guys think.

[Emma]

Jersey mics for dinner.

[Mike Mitchell]

I'll be like, should I get Del Taco on the way home?

[Nick Wiger]

You guys have never swayed my opinion one way or the other.

[Emma]

But you're looking.

[Mike Mitchell]

The fun is like, I'm looking for the devil over my shoulder. And I know that will always come from.

[Nick Wiger]

I always have that over my shoulder. I don't. I'm just.

[Mike Mitchell]

Devils. Yeah.

[Nick Wiger]

I got two devils.

[Emma]

Emma.

[Nick Wiger]

And it was it in. This is all to say we did get.

[Ryan]

Get the.

[Nick Wiger]

The fries with the sauce and everyone was just okay with the. The sauce is fine. No one really liked the sauce except for maybe me. It was very much butter.

[Mike Mitchell]

It was very buttery. This. This was your. Your observation, Mitch. And I think it might be true because we know that. That that Burger King is actually. No, they're not.

[Emma]

Was.

[Mike Mitchell]

Was Burger King. Who were they? Who is the. Who owns Burger King? Which private equity owns Burger King and is.

[Nick Wiger]

And is. And I think what he's looking for is it Papa John's.

[Emma]

Restaurant Brands International.

[Mike Mitchell]

Yeah, Restaurant Bands International. Is there a pizza chain that's a part of it?

[Nick Wiger]

I think Jimmy just had a little nightmare because he growled.

[Emma]

Thought it was a motorcycle outside.

[Nick Wiger]

Oh, she just growled. She's getting mad at me. I'm yelling at you too sometimes.

[Emma]

And sometimes she sleep barks. It's very cute.

[Nick Wiger]

Wally. Wally Will. He'll. He'll. He'll like dream get. Yeah.

[Joe Wengert]

Tony does little Barks.

[Amelia]

Tim Hortons, Burger King, Popeyes, Firehouse subs.

[Mike Mitchell]

Yeah. So. So there's maybe not a clean. This is like if. In the same way that if it was part of Yum. Brands where they'd be like, well, Pizza Hut. They just. The garlic butter sauce from Pizza Hut and put a Grogu label on it. But I don't know if that's the case. Whatever it is, it's a pretty. I'm sure it's some. It's a pretty generic sauce that tasted more buttery than garlicky. I got more garlic from the chicken

[Nick Wiger]

fries themselves from the chicken shells. But if you're dipping those chicken fries in ranch, it's. It's just going to overtake that because I thought they just were regular chicken fries at first.

[Mike Mitchell]

I liked them better because I just liked. I just like ranch better than that garlic sauce. They like ranch better than the garlic seasoning on the chicken fries. And. And I love fried chicken. Fried chicken is my favorite food. There's something about the. The garlic chicken fries or chicken fries in general that Makes me so conscious of how processed they are that they're in this little weird tube form factor. It does feel like pretty processed. I know, I know, but it makes me hyper conscious of it because of how misshapen it is. It's like the chicken stars from Carl's

[Nick Wiger]

Jr. Nuggets don't do that for you though.

[Mike Mitchell]

No, because a nugget is close enough to be.

[Nick Wiger]

They come in three shapes though.

[Mike Mitchell]

I know that, but I'm just saying like that's what my brain. And if I see something that's a little bit more like, like the dinosaur nugget, I was like, well, I know that this is ultra processed. Although I know intellectually the nugget is as well. It doesn't hit me the same way. Same thing with like a boneless wing. Say like again. I know this is, this is processed in the same way. It doesn't hit me as effectively, but still I'd always rather take a bone in chicken.

[Joe Wengert]

I like them because if I'm going to Burger King, something is wrong and if I just order a normal, normal meal, it's not going to be enough. And they are the perfect little like I. A little extra something to add on to this. And I also, I think it's like the extra breading factor. Cuz I'm like all. I just want as much breading as possible.

[Nick Wiger]

I think, I think the goop being shaped into forms doesn't bother me as much as it bothers you. I'm fine with whatever shape they want. And actually I think it's a me thing.

[Mike Mitchell]

I, I like, I'm just, I'm just speaking for myself, which is all I can do. That said, I thought these were pretty good.

[Nick Wiger]

I thought, I thought they were, I thought they were pretty good. I think that the, I liked the garlic sauce, but it is very much like a good garlic butter sauce. You, you, you did a dip. What do you think, Amelia?

[Amelia]

It just tasted like butter.

[Nick Wiger]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Joe Wengert]

It was too, it was too strong, was too overpowered.

[Mike Mitchell]

But you like the fries?

[Amelia]

I loved the fries.

[Emma]

The chicken fries, the garlic chicken fries.

[Mike Mitchell]

And you got, you, you didn't get the, the, the, the Bounty Whopper. You just got a regular Whopper. Yes, I brought it to you and I said here, like here's, here's a whop if you want a cop. And then I walked away and then I turned around and came back. I was like, I realized that I delivered this to you and said an Italian slur. And you are Italian American?

[Amelia]

Yes.

[Emma]

She said, I love It.

[Amelia]

I like Italian slurs.

[Mike Mitchell]

What's your. You got a favorite skinny guinea.

[Nick Wiger]

That's pretty good.

[Joe Wengert]

I've never heard that.

[Mike Mitchell]

I. Chris. I think Christopher calls it himself that on the Sopranos, I think.

[Joe Wengert]

Yeah, that's just a variation on guinea. It's not. I think so. Yeah.

[Mike Mitchell]

Yeah.

[Joe Wengert]

I like ginzo. Gabriel says ginzo's pretty good.

[Nick Wiger]

I got into a fist fight with my friend when I was younger, and he was an Italian guy. He called me a Mick during the fight.

[Emma]

Oh, that's an Irish.

[Nick Wiger]

He's like, you, Mick? And I was like, oh, my God, this feels like a. Like a 1950s fight or something.

[Emma]

No, my name is Mick.

[Mike Mitchell]

I'd love to be called a honky. That happen?

[Nick Wiger]

Yeah, you are. You're a honky.

[Mike Mitchell]

Honky ass. Coming from you. It's not the same.

[Nick Wiger]

Whatever. I tried. Well, coming from a Mick. Is that what you're saying?

[Mike Mitchell]

Yeah.

[Nick Wiger]

All right. Why do you love it? Why? What made you love Italian slurs?

[Mike Mitchell]

I don't know.

[Amelia]

It's just funny.

[Nick Wiger]

Italians love slurs in general.

[Joe Wengert]

I think Italian Americans do like their own slurs. I guess we do. Like. I don't know.

[Nick Wiger]

There may be other slurs.

[Joe Wengert]

All my. My part of my family is Italian American, and they're all very proud of all of our anti heroes and, you know, like, they just love it. Like. Like my family's acting like they're mobbed up. They're not. They wish they were. So that.

[Amelia]

That's.

[Mike Mitchell]

That's it for the savory side. I mean, I think the. Again, the. The grou carton, the.

[Emma]

The car.

[Mike Mitchell]

The packaging is fun. We got to talk about the Grou blue cookie shake, because that to me, was the highlight. Creamy vanilla soft serve mixed with blue sugar cookie syrup and topped with Grou's favorite stack. Blue cookies. Now, I asked in the kitchen, is that canon? Is that established in the show that Grou likes blue cookies? I don't think he ever eats blue cookies. Maybe he doesn't. Season four sometime.

[Nick Wiger]

But by the way, his favorite snack is blue cookies. That sucks.

[Mike Mitchell]

Not. Not a lot of effort is put into the copy there.

[Emma]

If that's cookies to go with your blue milk.

[Mike Mitchell]

But why would the cookies be blue?

[Emma]

I don't know. They just stole it.

[Mike Mitchell]

Yeah. Wouldn't it be blue?

[Joe Wengert]

It does feel like a lazy extension of the blue milk.

[Mike Mitchell]

It really does.

[Nick Wiger]

I don't know.

[Joe Wengert]

I'm hoping it pops up in the movie.

[Emma]

They already have a blue food, so it feels like by calling it blue cookies, you're Invoking that.

[Joe Wengert]

Right?

[Nick Wiger]

Yeah.

[Mike Mitchell]

Why wouldn't it be? Blue milk syrup. Like just call it Blue milk syrup and topped with Grogu's favorite snack.

[Nick Wiger]

Cookies.

[Mike Mitchell]

Or I get.

[Nick Wiger]

I'm searching blue cookies. Cookies. Star Wars. Let's see if there's a Wikipedia even on this. I.

[Mike Mitchell]

But I think. I think. I don't think this is established in Mandalorian.

[Nick Wiger]

Star wars blue cookies, often called. Okay, so here we go. Oh my God.

[Joe Wengert]

All right.

[Mike Mitchell]

Am I wrong?

[Nick Wiger]

Star wars blue cookies, often called Navarro Nummies or Navarro Macaroons, are iconic blue colored French Mac. How do you say Mac? Are you say macro.

[Mike Mitchell]

There's macaroons and Macarons is a 10 or 21 0. Then it's Macarons.

[Nick Wiger]

Macarons. Okay. Mac macarons with a creamy filling famously stolen by Grogu in the Mandalorian. So it was.

[Mike Mitchell]

Wow. So it happened. So never mind.

[Amelia]

Oh yeah. He's eating a blue macaroon in this macaroni macarons.

[Mike Mitchell]

Well, I should shut the up. What am I doing? What am I saying?

[Joe Wengert]

I don't remember it either though.

[Mike Mitchell]

When is this?

[Nick Wiger]

Wait, is that from the movie?

[Emma]

No, I think that. Wait.

[Amelia]

Maybe. Let me make sure it's not a Burger King.

[Mike Mitchell]

I will last.

[Emma]

Sort of. This is just a Burger King commercial. Commercial.

[Nick Wiger]

They're wildly available.

[Joe Wengert]

As put it in the show. This is.

[Nick Wiger]

They are widely available as official Williams Sonoma macarons. Macarons. Williams Sonoma.

[Joe Wengert]

Why is everything like this now?

[Nick Wiger]

Walmart's blue Nilla Nummies or blue tinted Oreo cookies as of 2026. So this is okay. And there are Nilla wafers there.

[Mike Mitchell]

So these do know we have seen the Groku Nilla wafers.

[Nick Wiger]

Yes. But that him liking the cookies is not a normal. That's not. That's not a normal.

[Mike Mitchell]

They're also not the vanilla wafers. They're a different blue cookie.

[Nick Wiger]

I would honestly like the Burger King copy if it just said like the whatever. The weird Star Wars Nabaro nummies or something. I would have liked it more.

[Joe Wengert]

Yeah. Anyway, it feels less lazy than just blue cookie.

[Nick Wiger]

Yeah.

[Mike Mitchell]

Pretty half assed.

[Amelia]

I clicked on this image and it took me to a Williams Sonoma website.

[Mike Mitchell]

Yeah. So I think this is maybe just a commercial.

[Amelia]

It's hard to say.

[Ryan]

Yeah.

[Mike Mitchell]

I don't know.

[Amelia]

I'm sure it's real anymore.

[Mike Mitchell]

I'm sure some pedantic Star wars fan will let us know if this has been.

[Joe Wengert]

Is that what they do?

[Mike Mitchell]

They. They'll do that sometimes.

[Joe Wengert]

Are they Keeping track of stuff.

[Mike Mitchell]

They'll sometimes give you a correction.

[Nick Wiger]

Yeah, it's all. It's all comm. It all is all commercial. It's just the who. It works on you. You love the little shitty things.

[Amelia]

I love him.

[Mike Mitchell]

I do. I do. Like, Grogu's fine.

[Nick Wiger]

What do you mean you do Like Grogu?

[Mike Mitchell]

He's cute.

[Joe Wengert]

He's good.

[Emma]

He's good.

[Mike Mitchell]

He's good character design.

[Joe Wengert]

He's funny. And.

[Mike Mitchell]

Yeah, you like him with him eating the little frog eggs is fun. Talking about him eating stuff.

[Joe Wengert]

What's happening. Like. Like, even having, like, the feelings of, like, God, this is so cynical and everything. Like, they just. The execution is so good. It's good enough that it gets you over that feeling.

[Emma]

Yeah.

[Nick Wiger]

This is sad to say, but I'm now realizing that I'm not needed in this world anymore.

[Mike Mitchell]

You're the outlier on Grogu.

[Nick Wiger]

I'm. I. The outline. I should get out of here.

[Emma]

My opinion is not based on the movie or the TV show at all. It's just the fact that he's cute. I haven't seen any of the other shit.

[Nick Wiger]

I just think this world has passed me by. I'm done.

[Joe Wengert]

They've tapped into something because I had like, a friend of ours, like, got their kid a Grogu doll before they were even, like, on screens. Yeah, she just loved it. Does know. Yeah. It just is a cute thing in the same way that, like, it reminds

[Emma]

me a little bit of Furbies, though. It has like, a little bit of that creepy eye like the Furbies did.

[Mike Mitchell]

But the Furby also inspired by Gizmo.

[Nick Wiger]

Yeah, I love Gizmo, but Gizmo seemed like an original, fun creation.

[Joe Wengert]

Seems real.

[Nick Wiger]

Yes. Yeah. Grou doesn't feel real.

[Joe Wengert]

I believed I could find a Gizmo somewhere at some point,

[Nick Wiger]

which they haven't. They never really came back with a new Gremlin. And Amelia, we do next trip. I think we got to watch Gremlins.

[Mike Mitchell]

Look, all this said the Grou blue cookie shake is great. It was so yummy. It's birthday flavor.

[Nick Wiger]

There's a reason to like Grogu. It is his blue cookie shake.

[Mike Mitchell]

It's. It's vanilla based, which I. Which I love. You know, vanilla's a flavor. And then also the blue sugar cookie syrup is like birthday flavor, so works in there. It's like. It's like vanilla and birthday. There's nice texture from the blue. Cookies were just kind of crumbled on top. I thought this was a fucking delight. And I had I had a taste. I had a couple sip, like, spoonfuls, like, do I love this? And I kept having, having. I was like, I'm gonna finish this by those. I thought it was so good.

[Nick Wiger]

I, I, I think everyone was. Was very happy with it. I heard you coming out and you asked if I had any of the crusties.

[Amelia]

Yeah, it was so good. What I, my favorite part was that it was not too sweet at all. No, it was the perfect amount of sweetness. The crusties on top are really good. And yeah, I, I could have eaten the whole thing.

[Mike Mitchell]

Joe, did you end up having a sip of it? I think you did.

[Joe Wengert]

I did. I had a sip and I wanted more.

[Mike Mitchell]

Yeah, really yummy. Why?

[Nick Wiger]

Because you labeled it, like, Michael Jackson's eighth studio album, Dangerous. That's what you said. The shake is dangerous. And I was that really number eight? That's number eight for Michael Jackson, I think, because of Jackson five.

[Mike Mitchell]

Oh, the Jackson five ones count.

[Joe Wengert]

Okay.

[Nick Wiger]

Because otherwise in reality, solo Michael Jackson. What is it, number three or four off the wall?

[Mike Mitchell]

Thriller, Bad.

[Nick Wiger]

Dangerous.

[Mike Mitchell]

Right. And I think that's it.

[Nick Wiger]

Yeah, that's it. Does Dangerous have any. I mean, they, there's good songs on. There's good songs and pro on all the Dangerous.

[Mike Mitchell]

Oh, dangerous is great. Remember the time.

[Nick Wiger]

Yes. In black and black and black or white. Yeah, that's okay. It is. Yeah.

[Mike Mitchell]

I'll bring up a Dangerous track listing. Right now. There's a bunch of bangers.

[Nick Wiger]

I agree with you. A dangerous drink. I did drink this whole thing. I'm gonna feel extremely sick from it. Joe. I know that's why you didn't order one.

[Joe Wengert]

Yeah, I just can't have that much of a mix milkshake. But, like, I'm. My daughter only ever gets vanilla things because Holly is allergic to chocolate. So now she's, like, copying Holly, but she doesn't ever finish a dessert. So I'm gonna push her towards this in the hopes that then I can have the amount of shake that I can handle. It took me like a couple of years of her life to start to just like, I don't order anything at the ice cream shop now because she never finished. Finishes it. And then I eat, like, an appropriate amount as opposed to one and a half of every ice cream.

[Nick Wiger]

Are you, Are, Are you a chocolate fan? Is this is. Has this.

[Joe Wengert]

I'm like, I'm like, fine on chocolate.

[Nick Wiger]

Okay.

[Joe Wengert]

Like a chocoholic or anything. So.

[Mike Mitchell]

Yeah, that's me too. I'm kind of fine on chocolate. I like chocolate, but I, I'm A. I love vanilla.

[Joe Wengert]

Yeah.

[Mike Mitchell]

And I love. I like.

[Joe Wengert]

Vanilla is my preferred flavor.

[Nick Wiger]

So then you're in business.

[Joe Wengert]

Yeah.

[Nick Wiger]

Yeah.

[Joe Wengert]

And I don't have the same. Like, when we go to, like, a kid's party and there is, like, a chicken chocolate dessert. Holly is, like, offended, but I'm like, they're not thinking about the allergies of the moms.

[Nick Wiger]

Right.

[Mike Mitchell]

Here's the. Here are the singles from Dangerous. Black or White. Remember the time.

[Nick Wiger]

Okay.

[Mike Mitchell]

In the closet.

[Nick Wiger]

Okay.

[Mike Mitchell]

Jam.

[Nick Wiger]

Jam.

[Mike Mitchell]

Who is it? Who is. It's a trap.

[Joe Wengert]

I don't remember. Who is it?

[Mike Mitchell]

Who is it?

[Nick Wiger]

Oh, now we. Now we remember.

[Joe Wengert]

It's good.

[Mike Mitchell]

Heal the world. Sing it at the Super Bowl.

[Nick Wiger]

Heal the World is from Dangerous.

[Mike Mitchell]

Yeah.

[Nick Wiger]

Oh, my God.

[Joe Wengert]

Give it to me.

[Mike Mitchell]

Will you be there and gone too soon.

[Emma]

Yeah.

[Mike Mitchell]

He had a whole bunch of bangers on.

[Nick Wiger]

Scream is Janet Jackson, Right? That's like the last Janet Jackson video I remember. Okay. Also, Scream a good song. Okay. I'm sorry. Michael. I. I like Michael Jackson.

[Mike Mitchell]

Yeah.

[Joe Wengert]

Did you watch the Black or White video debut on tv?

[Nick Wiger]

We.

[Joe Wengert]

We.

[Nick Wiger]

We.

[Mike Mitchell]

I did.

[Nick Wiger]

We talk about this constantly because it was such a big.

[Joe Wengert]

It was a very important time for our generation. Like, I watched it with my dad.

[Nick Wiger]

Yeah.

[Mike Mitchell]

I watched it with our whole family. It was after the Simpsons.

[Joe Wengert]

Yep.

[Mike Mitchell]

We watched the.

[Nick Wiger]

Do you remember what episode of the Simpsons it was?

[Mike Mitchell]

It's not the Michael Jackson one, is it? I don't think it was.

[Nick Wiger]

I don't know. Yeah.

[Mike Mitchell]

But anyway. Yeah, the. The Simpsons. I mean, we can. We can try to look that up.

[Ryan]

The.

[Nick Wiger]

The Simpsons, like, introduces it. Right.

[Mike Mitchell]

Bart introduces it. And then there was the. Originally, the extended tag where Michael Jackson, like, he does the whole video,

[Joe Wengert]

and

[Mike Mitchell]

then he walks outside of the studio and just starts breaking cars. Just, like, starts kicking him.

[Nick Wiger]

And there was. There were. People were offended by it.

[Mike Mitchell]

People were offended by it. I remember it was like a whole thing at.

[Joe Wengert]

He was grabbing his cross.

[Nick Wiger]

That's right. Yeah. Okay. That's right. That's the other part of it.

[Joe Wengert]

That's what I remember. There's more outrage about that than him smashing a car.

[Nick Wiger]

Yeah. Yes. Yeah. He was. Yeah. Grabbing his. His crotch quite a bit.

[Mike Mitchell]

It was quite a controversial.

[Joe Wengert]

My school.

[Nick Wiger]

But talk about the combo of Bart Simpson introducing a video by Michael Jackson with Macau Culin in it that you're hitting on all the.

[Mike Mitchell]

And George went.

[Nick Wiger]

And George went from Cheers. You hit on everything I loved.

[Mike Mitchell]

Isn't there. There's also someone famous in the morph because, like, morphing is like Tyra Banks. Tyra Banks is one of the people. People get more. Yeah, before she was Tyra Banks.

[Nick Wiger]

That's right. Yeah.

[Emma]

It was the Simpsons episode Saturdays of the Thunder. Okay, this was at the end of the music video. Bart's jumping on the sofa and Homer walks in and turns the TV off.

[Nick Wiger]

It says, that's pretty funny.

[Mike Mitchell]

Yeah, it's a. That was the. That was like a go Kart episode. Yeah, the soapbox Racer.

[Nick Wiger]

So that's season two, maybe, or season two.

[Mike Mitchell]

Yeah.

[Nick Wiger]

Or three.

[Emma]

Episode three. Episode nine.

[Nick Wiger]

Season three.

[Mike Mitchell]

Season three. Wow.

[Nick Wiger]

Never mind.

[Emma]

I bet you're right. It's. It's the. Homer realizes he's being a neglectful father and he. They go soapbox racing.

[Mike Mitchell]

Yeah.

[Nick Wiger]

What a show. Anyways, What a man. Homer or Michael?

[Mike Mitchell]

Michael.

[Nick Wiger]

I. I think Homer is a great man. And there's been nothing said about. Bad about Homer.

[Joe Wengert]

Do they cover the black and white video release in the major motion picture? Michael? No, no, the film don't do any of it at all.

[Mike Mitchell]

The film abruptly ends in 1988.

[Nick Wiger]

Yeah. Weirdly, it doesn't get to black and black.

[Mike Mitchell]

That is that.

[Ryan]

Yeah.

[Emma]

And then.

[Mike Mitchell]

Then it. And then it says his story continues like it's like a Marvel movie. And that's it. That's the end of.

[Nick Wiger]

Would have been so fun to see MJ meet, like, Bart and Homer if we. If we saw a little bit more. It would have been fun to see him go in the studio and.

[Ryan]

Yeah.

[Mike Mitchell]

And meet Barton and Homer. That would have been awesome. Mitch.

[Ryan]

I agree.

[Nick Wiger]

I didn't. I was. I didn't mean like a who Framed Roger Rabbit thing. All right, let's. Let's review this.

[Mike Mitchell]

We gotta get to our fourth.

[Nick Wiger]

Yes. So let's let this man watch his sixers, for crying out loud.

[Mike Mitchell]

Joe. This is how this works. We'll each go around. We'll each give our. Our closing argument, if you will, on the Burger King Mandalorian meal, and then give it a score from zero to five. Lightsaber four forks.

[Nick Wiger]

I love that. Wise Lightsaber forks. Good as. As. As anything in new Star Wars. It is. It's better than blue cookies.

[Mike Mitchell]

Joe, you're a guest. We'll start with you. Your. Your fork score.

[Joe Wengert]

I am going to. I really liked the tots. I felt like they didn't really do anything different with the fries because I could barely taste the garlic and parmesan. But the burger was okay, and I regretted not getting. I. I think I was like in a two. But then when I tried the shake, I liked it so that would have bumped it up to three for me. So I'm giving it a 3, 3, 4, 3.

[Nick Wiger]

Lightsaber. Is. We've said BK's back for a long time. I do think that the. The new Them focusing on quality, again is just. It's helpful for the brand. It's. And look, burking always goes from restaurant to restaurant. If you're up in the Valley. Valley. I've said this, like, Glendale or. Or Burbank, like, you have a. You're gonna get a better BK experience.

[Mike Mitchell]

I have a fantastic, consistent Burger King on the west side I hit up. So they're.

[Joe Wengert]

They're.

[Mike Mitchell]

They're very locational dependent.

[Nick Wiger]

It's locational dependent. The Whopper yesterday I had was good, except I don't love that. The new bun needs some rejiggering. It needs. They need to figure that out a little bit. This meal, everything was, like, fine with this meal.

[Ryan]

The.

[Nick Wiger]

The tots were, like, fun. I think that, like, the garlic fries, I could barely taste it with the sauce. It was better. But, like, nothing really, like, stood out as great in the meal. This. The sandwich is okay, but this is the way right here. Amelia, you're right. This shake is the way it is. It's. It's really, really good. That's. This is a home run. And it brings my score up for the meal. I'd say 3.5 for all the. All the components for Burger King itself. I'm going golden. Play club wise. I'm going four forks for Burger King. I like Burger King. I think BK is back.

[Mike Mitchell]

So BK is back. I agree with you there. If we're talking about BK at large, then the fork is strong with this one. I would give. I would give Burger King four forks,

[Nick Wiger]

four lightsaber forks, four lightsaber forks, and three and a half lightsaber forks.

[Mike Mitchell]

Well, no, Burger King just gets forks because it's like. That's an evergreen.

[Nick Wiger]

Okay. The mando meal gets three and a half lightsaber forks, and Burger King himself gets four metal forks. Then this. Is that. Is that what you want? Okay. All right.

[Emma]

This.

[Mike Mitchell]

This pole axes, the. How to train your dragon menu. Like, this is. This is so much better than that.

[Nick Wiger]

A th percent.

[Mike Mitchell]

They put some real effort into it. And I think I genuinely like the. Both the cheddar ranch tots, and despite me being a little bit put off by them, the garlic chicken fries. I thought the barbecue bounty Whopper was fine, and the shake was delicious. The grou blue cookie shake, I loved it. I would have liked to have had a mando crown. But I can't hold that against Burger King. I, it's weird they didn't. The garlic, the garlic sauce by default. And I wish the packaging had a little bit more effort into it.

[Nick Wiger]

But overall there is a lot of packaging going on here.

[Mike Mitchell]

Just there's a lot of packaging going on. And compared to a lot of other chains efforts. For instance, the he man meal, which we did, we just did from Denny's which was so half ass tasted like. I, I think this is, this is a big step up. So for that reason I am in the hand holding club with the, the, the mando to my Grogu. Or wait, it's the other way around, right?

[Nick Wiger]

I'm Grogu.

[Mike Mitchell]

I think you're Grogu. Yeah, the Grogu to my mando.

[Nick Wiger]

I hate myself as much as I dislike Grogu.

[Mike Mitchell]

I guess I'm gonna say three and a half lightsaber forks for the Mandalorian meal.

[Nick Wiger]

That's fair.

[Mike Mitchell]

All right, it's time for a segment.

[Nick Wiger]

Grogo gets zero forks. And I hope he dies in the movie.

[Mike Mitchell]

How dare you. It's time for a segment.

[Nick Wiger]

How could a baby die? He's 50. Who gives a. He's old.

[Joe Wengert]

50 is very sad.

[Nick Wiger]

For someone to 50 is too young.

[Joe Wengert]

About somebody dying at 50.

[Mike Mitchell]

You're horrible.

[Nick Wiger]

It's horrible for someone to die now grou dying at 50. I'm okay,

[Mike Mitchell]

so him as a baby.

[Nick Wiger]

Yeah, he's fake. First of all. He's fake.

[Emma]

50.

[Mike Mitchell]

50 year old Grogu dies of SIDS. You're like, Good, good riddance.

[Nick Wiger]

Hold on a second. Sy D I DS sudden Yoda death syndrome. Not, not your, not your way. I, I, I would be fine with, with, with wow. With Grogu dying like Grogu d die not. What?

[Mike Mitchell]

No, I agree. Like, here's the thing. I don't see any reason for this movie to be a movie. That's my core problem with it. If they're going to do something seismic like Grogu or Mandalorian is going to die in the movie, then like, great. Okay. This has a reason for. I, I, I'm restating something I said earlier, but I don't think they're going

[Joe Wengert]

to be that bold.

[Mike Mitchell]

I think they're going to try.

[Nick Wiger]

People don't care anymore. I'm just being aggressive.

[Mike Mitchell]

No one cares.

[Nick Wiger]

No one cares.

[Amelia]

I would be devastated if Grogu died. We don't have good things in this world anymore. Give us Grog Grogu. Let us have him.

[Nick Wiger]

Yeah. We don't have good things in this world anymore. And you're speaking. Grogu is a part of. Just do the segment.

[Mike Mitchell]

You're, you're, you're on an island with Grogu. Yeah, that. This is, this is, this is a you thing.

[Nick Wiger]

I think there's a lot of people that think Grogu is like a dumb, cynical marketing. Right.

[Mike Mitchell]

I don't know. I think, I think by and large

[Emma]

can be that and also be cute.

[Nick Wiger]

It's fine. It's cute. All right. You know what? Grogu is cute. I'm. I'm on your side.

[Emma]

I walked in here right now, you'd be like, that's pretty cute.

[Nick Wiger]

Stomp his ass out.

[Mike Mitchell]

As far as the list of things to complain about in terms of Disney's stewardship of Star Wars, Grogu is pretty far down the list.

[Joe Wengert]

Fine.

[Nick Wiger]

Fair.

[Mike Mitchell]

I mean, there's just like if, if, if what they were doing with the Star wars license was making Mandalorian and

[Nick Wiger]

Grogu is that little. Wearing a diaper, nothing else.

[Mike Mitchell]

I don't know if he has a diaper because he's got the little robes on.

[Nick Wiger]

So he's just freely.

[Mike Mitchell]

Is what you think he's got a diaper on under those robes. But I don't know if it's a established. Maybe he's toilet trained.

[Nick Wiger]

Maybe that's the ending of this movie that you see Mandalorian change. Grogu.

[Mike Mitchell]

They don't really talk about pissing. And in the Star wars the whole

[Joe Wengert]

movie is him learning how to use the potty.

[Emma]

Potty training.

[Nick Wiger]

It would be great for our baby brained generation, including Amelia will be giving a standing ovation.

[Mike Mitchell]

Has anyone did the blueprints for the Millennium Falcon? Like, where is the toilet? There must be one on there.

[Nick Wiger]

Oh, it's got to be a toilet.

[Mike Mitchell]

But we've never seen a toilet like, we've never seen like Han Solo coming out of the room. Restroom.

[Nick Wiger]

That's funny to think of Chewbacca like

[Joe Wengert]

on the toilet in there.

[Amelia]

Yeah.

[Mike Mitchell]

At some point, Chewbacca is going to take a big.

[Nick Wiger]

Yeah. Was that him? Is that, is that your impression of Chewbacca going to the bathroom?

[Emma]

Yeah, he's feeling relief. That sounded like relief.

[Mike Mitchell]

All right, let's do a segue.

[Nick Wiger]

Yeah, we gotta end this show.

[Mike Mitchell]

It's the return of Serving usa Hit it, Emma. If everybody had a portion cross the the usa, then everybody'd be serving like California burritos. You see them snacking from baggies and eating sandos too. A Busho Bush of tomatoes. Serving USA deep fried pan fried USA deep fried pants. Pan fried USA deep fried, pan fried USA deep fried, pan fried U.S.A. come on, Mitch. Deep fried pan fried USA Deep fried, pan fried USA Everybody's going, serving, serving USA okay, so here's how serving USA works. Mitch and Joe are gonna guess the amounts of servings per container for each object that is named the clip. Closest guest wins a point for that round. And according to the VLC rule, which is the Vanessa Chester rule. Vanessa Chester, you do sound like a

[Nick Wiger]

little haunted doll when you say the

[Mike Mitchell]

better successor role of the great. The film the Napa Boys, which you are also in. Yeah, now, now on. Now on vod.

[Nick Wiger]

Yeah.

[Mike Mitchell]

You get two points if you get it on the dot. So, Joe, do you understand the premise? I'll read, I'll read food stuff. And then guess how many servings are

[Nick Wiger]

in you singing in that Michael Jackson. Octave has scared Jimmy. She's, like, stood up and it's staring

[Emma]

at you boys, right?

[Nick Wiger]

It is beach, but I'm saying. He's saying Michael Jackson. He was doing it. He was. Yeah, he's doing a little false.

[Mike Mitchell]

Are you a Beach Boys guy?

[Joe Wengert]

I like some of them. Yeah. I like.

[Nick Wiger]

You made it. You made a bold claim today.

[Mike Mitchell]

Sounds is good. Like Pet Sounds.

[Nick Wiger]

You said Pet Sounds is better than.

[Mike Mitchell]

I wasn't the person who said Pet Sounds is better than sergeant Peppers, but

[Nick Wiger]

you did say that Thriller is better than. You said Thriller is better than Pet Sounds.

[Mike Mitchell]

I agree. Pet Sounds is better than, than, than Sgt. Pepper's the Beatles. Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band, which is also a good album. And that I think, like, I think Thriller is better than Pet Sounds, but whatever. Rank them how you however you like.

[Nick Wiger]

Yeah, I, I, I, I don't, I don't disagree with.

[Joe Wengert]

They, I, I kind of like Pet Sounds, but the Beach Boys, like, just, they have individual songs that are great, but, like, like, I, I think California Girls is a great, great song. Great song, but, like, you just have to, like, not pay attention to their lyrics ever. Because it's either like that or it's, like, just about surfing or it's, like, about vegetables. It's just like, they're always placeholder lyrics.

[Nick Wiger]

I should get mad.

[Joe Wengert]

Except for, like, Don't Worry, Baby, I guess is good. Oh, yeah. Christmas is great. Yeah.

[Nick Wiger]

I should get mad at Geardner. I'm gonna get mad at him tonight for this because he was making fun of Dave Matthews saying, I'm the king of the castle, you're the dirty rascal, and I'M like, yeah, wait, Beach Boys do have some dumb lyrics.

[Mike Mitchell]

Yeah.

[Nick Wiger]

Anyways, I'm going to start a fight.

[Mike Mitchell]

Just start it right now. Let's get the ball rolling. Okay, first up, Snyder's of Hanover pretzel pieces, Honey mustard and onion. This is an 11.25 ounce bag. How many servings are per container?

[Joe Wengert]

I'm going to say three servings.

[Nick Wiger]

I'm going to go six. Six servings per container.

[Mike Mitchell]

Mitch is going to take it though. You both way undershot it. There are 11 servings container. Yeah.

[Nick Wiger]

So there's a thousand calories in. In. In these, B. Over a thousand calories in.

[Mike Mitchell]

They're saying that. That a 1 ounce is a serving in this bag, which is like ridiculous.

[Joe Wengert]

Third of a cup is so small.

[Emma]

I've never sat down and had a snack of 13 cup of pretzel.

[Mike Mitchell]

All right, next up, Ben and Jerry's half plate. This is a one pint. How many. How many servings are in a Ben and Jerry's pint? Half baked? The chocolate and vanilla ice creams with gobs of chocolate chip cookie dough and fudge brownies. That's a good flavor.

[Joe Wengert]

I'm going to say 16. Am I going first every time?

[Nick Wiger]

Oh, I can go. I can go first.

[Mike Mitchell]

Oh, yeah, you can alternate.

[Nick Wiger]

I'm going to go with eight servings on this one.

[Emma]

In a pint.

[Nick Wiger]

In a pint?

[Mike Mitchell]

8 servings in a pint like this?

[Nick Wiger]

Yeah, well, yeah, I know. What a pint.

[Joe Wengert]

Do I not know sizes and shapes? Is that what we're finding out here? I guess I'll go. I'll go 10.

[Mike Mitchell]

You both overshot it. But there's no price is right rule. It is there are three servings per container. Three in a pint. Yeah. So I think they're being. That's fairer to me because I could take down a whole pint in one go.

[Nick Wiger]

This, this. Because look, they also put the whole thing there, which I know sometimes other products do do that, but the per container. So the pint of ice cream versus a bag of Snider. I would way go the pint of ice cream over the bag of Snider.

[Joe Wengert]

Yeah, you're way more fun.

[Mike Mitchell]

Caloric indulgence. All right, next up, Quaker white cheddar rice cakes. This is a bag of 14 rice cakes.

[Nick Wiger]

Well, you can go first.

[Joe Wengert]

14.

[Nick Wiger]

I mean, if you got 14, if you got it 100% right. Oh, you know what? I'll say 28. I'll just double it.

[Mike Mitchell]

That's a good guess, Mitch, but actually Joe is going to get two points here because the VLC rule, the Vanessa Chester rule, and it is going. Is because there's exactly 14 servings in a bag of 14 serv.

[Nick Wiger]

That's. I think we, I think we both were thinking the same thing there.

[Joe Wengert]

I got it. A little advantage by going first.

[Nick Wiger]

First. I know, hey, that it's where you choose it. That's, it's a huge part. There's a lot of thinking that goes into this game, into serving us.

[Mike Mitchell]

Say, I heard Colonel Tom was not particularly intrigued by the cheddar rice cakes until he found out, oh, they're white.

[Nick Wiger]

Someone was saying that they like don't really even do that in the movie. And we've kind of like. They do.

[Mike Mitchell]

They do it in the movie.

[Nick Wiger]

They do it in the movie.

[Mike Mitchell]

Next up, Mamba fruit chews. This is a 7 ounce bag. How many servings are in a 7 ounce bag? 7.05 ounces to be precise. The flavors included in the Mamba, Strawberry, raspberry, orange, cherry and, and lemon.

[Nick Wiger]

I said that there's probably like three pieces of mambas per serving. And then I'm going to guess that there's like, like 50 of these in a bag. So I'm going to go, I'm going to say that there's, there's eight. 20 servings per container.

[Mike Mitchell]

20 servings. Now you don't have to guess how many pieces, but I, I, if you, if you got it, I'd consider that a bonus. But you don't have to guess how many pieces. But, but Joe, how many servings you think are in this?

[Joe Wengert]

I'll go, I'll go 1212.

[Mike Mitchell]

Joe is closer because there's seven servings per bag. Oh, wow. Yeah. Five pieces is a serving size.

[Nick Wiger]

I understand. Okay.

[Emma]

Also, the strawberry on this looks a lot like the strawberry from the fruit videos.

[Amelia]

That's true.

[Joe Wengert]

It looks nice.

[Mike Mitchell]

Looks delicious.

[Emma]

Talking to me about Stralina. Strabolina.

[Mike Mitchell]

Strabolina.

[Nick Wiger]

She has a name?

[Amelia]

Yeah, her name's Strawina.

[Mike Mitchell]

So she's going to get, she's going to get pregnant by a banana or cupped or something.

[Amelia]

It depends on, on the, on the story.

[Mike Mitchell]

So she, let's like, like, let's say in one, for example, she gets pregnant by a banana. Her mango husband finds out she's pregnant and is excited. She gives birth to a little banana. And then the banana is like, I gotta kill her. And then hires a hitman.

[Nick Wiger]

This is what these videos do, basically.

[Amelia]

Or he'll get really, the banana will get really Revenge hot.

[Mike Mitchell]

No, the, the, the mango will.

[Amelia]

Or the mango.

[Mike Mitchell]

The mango would get really venge hot and then go beat the shit out of the banana. Or actually there was one where he gets. He goes and has sex with a banana as like a show of dominance.

[Amelia]

Yeah, yeah. Like the, the two, the two guy fruits will get together at the end sometimes.

[Emma]

Yeah.

[Mike Mitchell]

A lot of fun.

[Nick Wiger]

Yeah, it's a blast.

[Joe Wengert]

Just good, classic, just storytelling. Yeah.

[Mike Mitchell]

Next up, Sabra classic hummus. This is a roasted red pepper flavor. This is a 10 ounce container. You a hummus guy don't like. Oh, because you're not a sauce guy.

[Joe Wengert]

Not a sauce guy.

[Mike Mitchell]

Is there any sauce you do with?

[Joe Wengert]

I mean, I like ranch.

[Mike Mitchell]

Yeah, Ranch is good.

[Nick Wiger]

This is, this, this is, this is, this is kind of turning into the Celtics Sixers series and that. I had a 2 nothing lead at first and then now Joe has come back and is in the lead.

[Joe Wengert]

Well, do you want to go first or do you want me to go first?

[Nick Wiger]

Wait, who did I go first?

[Joe Wengert]

I don't know.

[Mike Mitchell]

I've been alternating.

[Nick Wiger]

I think you're up for first.

[Joe Wengert]

Am I up?

[Nick Wiger]

I think you are for first.

[Joe Wengert]

I'm going to go. I'm going to say four.

[Mike Mitchell]

Four servings.

[Nick Wiger]

Yeah, I'm going to double that and say eight.

[Mike Mitchell]

Two points for Mitch because you. Eight servings per container.

[Amelia]

Mitch is now in the lead four to three.

[Joe Wengert]

Whoa.

[Nick Wiger]

I wish that's what happened.

[Mike Mitchell]

Mitch, you'll go first. Here, squirt. This is a 2 liter bottle of Squirt Grapefruit soda.

[Nick Wiger]

This is tricky because it's two liters

[Ryan]

and.

[Nick Wiger]

Oh, you know what? One serving.

[Mike Mitchell]

Which says one serving.

[Nick Wiger]

No, I up.

[Mike Mitchell]

Joe. What. What say you?

[Joe Wengert]

I'll say 12.

[Mike Mitchell]

I think Mitch actually gets it because he's closer.

[Joe Wengert]

Oh, 12.

[Mike Mitchell]

It's six servings per container. But Mitch, by virtue of guessing one, you were closer than the.

[Nick Wiger]

Because I remember there was a trick with like the. I think it is just the regular sized Coke like the, the bot. The small bottles. Just one serving.

[Mike Mitchell]

But a two liter is a big boy.

[Nick Wiger]

Yeah, I know, I know.

[Emma]

Last time we had two. Two liters back to back and it like mind you guys, yes, there's one.

[Nick Wiger]

There wasn't one of them. Just one.

[Amelia]

It was a trick question.

[Emma]

No, they were both the same. They were the same size. But that's what.

[Amelia]

That's one was diet or zero calorie or something.

[Emma]

Yeah.

[Mike Mitchell]

All right, we have a. We have a 1.7oz container of tic Tac fresh mints. How many servings are in one of these. Joe, you're, you'll go first.

[Joe Wengert]

I'm going to say two servings.

[Mike Mitchell]

Joe says two.

[Nick Wiger]

I'm going to say that this is one of the weird ones where one serving is one Tic Tac. And so I'm going to go 40 servings.

[Mike Mitchell]

Mitch is going to take it because there are in fact a hundred servings per container. And you are correct.

[Emma]

Mint is one serving.

[Nick Wiger]

One mint is one serving.

[Mike Mitchell]

Serving. What, what's the, what's the score right now?

[Amelia]

Seven to three.

[Mike Mitchell]

Seven to three? Well, there's one left.

[Joe Wengert]

They're not being honest with how we're doing. It. It is, it is a victory if I am not just immediately eating the entire thing. I used to like stress eat them like cuz there's, it feels like there's no consequence.

[Mike Mitchell]

They're very palpable. Finally, gray Poupon mustard. This is an 8oz container.

[Nick Wiger]

Ooh, this is tricky. Is it you or me first?

[Joe Wengert]

Think it's.

[Mike Mitchell]

This will be you.

[Amelia]

All mustards are valid.

[Mike Mitchell]

All mustards are valid.

[Nick Wiger]

That's right, all mustards are valid.

[Joe Wengert]

This is made with white wine. If that makes a difference.

[Nick Wiger]

That. That does actually make a little bit of a difference for me. I'm going to go, ooh, this is weird because I'm like, is this just one serving? But no, you're not gonna.

[Emma]

Eight ounces is a cup.

[Nick Wiger]

Eight ounces is a cup. Four servings.

[Joe Wengert]

I'm gonna go eight.

[Mike Mitchell]

Joe takes it. They're in fact 45 servings. Oh my God. One teaspoon is one serving.

[Nick Wiger]

It was another back to back sort of thing.

[Mike Mitchell]

Yeah, this.

[Joe Wengert]

I feel so ashamed because I cook a lot. I'm dealing with these serving sizes and teaspoons and I feel like I was way off.

[Nick Wiger]

Would you ever, would you ever look at the serving size on a sauce? I don't know.

[Mike Mitchell]

That's the thing. It's like the serving size is so deceptive because like 1 teaspoon I can kind of see that I probably still am spreading a little bit more on a sandwich.

[Joe Wengert]

Yeah.

[Mike Mitchell]

But still I can kind of buy that more than some of these other ones are. Like the, the, the ciders of Hanover thing is ridiculous.

[Joe Wengert]

Yeah.

[Mike Mitchell]

Like I'm not going to eat. No one's eating a fucking third cup of pretzels as was said earlier.

[Nick Wiger]

So I mean, you know what I'd like to do with that Greg Poupon? Open it up, dip grogu in there, Hope. Swallow them whole

[Mike Mitchell]

like Jabba. Eating a little amphibian Yeah, I guess

[Nick Wiger]

it's like Jabba eating something. Yes. Thank you.

[Mike Mitchell]

Mitch wins, right? Mitch wins.

[Amelia]

Yeah. Mitch wins.

[Mike Mitchell]

Congratulations, buddy. Just like a restaurant, value your feedback. Let's open up the feedback. Today's email.

[Nick Wiger]

Interesting. That doesn't matter at all.

[Mike Mitchell]

Today's email is from Pissmaster. Pissmaster writes, hi, guys, I'm winning my baby off of breastfeeding. Hey, we had a breastfeeding earlier and as a result he has really long crying fits over not sucking on a titty. The other night as he was wailing, I reached for my phone and accidentally turned on one of your episodes on full volume. To my surprise, he stopped crying upon hearing your voices, which is the opposite of how I usually react, and fell right back asleep. I've kept playing Doughboy's episodes for him to great effect, although I'm concerned about the long term effects on his mental health. My question is, what food or drink would make you cry like a baby if it was denied to you by your parents? Love from Norway. The piss master.

[Ryan]

You.

[Mike Mitchell]

You. You are Joe.

[Ryan]

The.

[Mike Mitchell]

The parent in the room. Yeah, you, you, you. I, I imagine have some experience with this thing. I'm not.

[Emma]

But.

[Mike Mitchell]

But is there anything in particular that calms. Would calm your child that you were surprised by?

[Joe Wengert]

Yes. The. We would play her the t. The theme song from Taxi, which is not surprising because it's a very soothing, beautiful song.

[Emma]

Right.

[Nick Wiger]

And also, Nick, at night when that would come on, it was kind of like a thing I associate with going to sleep. It's like a nice little lullaby of a. Of a theme song.

[Joe Wengert]

I just like that guy, that guy, his name's Bob James. He has a whole. He put out a whole album of like the songs that are like the interstitial music from Taxi. And I don't know how we stumbled upon it, but it's really only the beginning melody that's like the main theme song. The beginning part of it seems like a lullaby, but then it gets into like a funkier like. And that was the part that she liked, but she liked the movement of like rocking her to sleep. And so then we would sing it, but there's no words, so we would just sort of like sing it how I just did it, except for we would go and Danny DeVito. Do do do, do. You love it?

[Mike Mitchell]

It's adorable. The.

[Nick Wiger]

The Cheers theme song has some extra verses. I don't know if you've ever heard the full. And they're not, they're not as.

[Joe Wengert]

No, I. I feel like it puts a chill down My spine when I hear the whole thing.

[Mike Mitchell]

It's like the, the extra verses of the Star Spangled Banner or Take Me out to the Ball Game.

[Nick Wiger]

Yeah, we just, we just learned about the extra. What's her, what is her name again?

[Emma]

Katie. Katie Casey.

[Nick Wiger]

Yeah. Katie Casey. Yeah. It's like, I don't know this, it's very strange. It's about Katie Casey, like, wanting to go see a baseball game.

[Mike Mitchell]

That's the prelude to the taking the ball.

[Joe Wengert]

She is the person that wants to go to the ball game.

[Nick Wiger]

It's like Katie Casey was baseball mad. That's like the, that's the start of the song. And then it goes in to Take me out to the.

[Mike Mitchell]

It's a, that's the only, this last.

[Nick Wiger]

Which I, we did not know. And she had the other, the other verses of Cheers. It was a great theme song.

[Mike Mitchell]

There was a fan who I, I don't know if we, we. I can't, I don't know what their account was, but, but played the. We'll plug it.

[Nick Wiger]

We'll put it right here.

[Mike Mitchell]

Played the verses on the, the additional verses on piano so you could hear what it sounded like.

[Amelia]

I could probably find it.

[Mike Mitchell]

Well, anyway, Mitch, is there any food or drink that would make you cry like a baby if it was denied to you by your parents?

[Nick Wiger]

Placenta pills and breast milk are probably my number one.

[Emma]

I was going to say the Grogu Meal garlic dip sauce.

[Nick Wiger]

Now, hold on a second. I didn't cry about it. I just ordered that straight up. I guess that is if I lived in a world where you could just order it straight up. I wouldn't, I wouldn't cry about anything. But if my mom and dad wouldn't let me have pizza, they're like, no pizza for a week. I would cry like a baby.

[Mike Mitchell]

Yeah, I'm trying. Like, as a kid, you know, I was, I was kind of like more a kid who would eat everything, which is kind of, you know, except for I was the first any.

[Nick Wiger]

You wanted me to not do the due diligence and not get the garlic sauce, Emma. Is that what you're saying? You want an incomplete review for the viewers?

[Emma]

No, I was just saying that's up. You were crying about it.

[Nick Wiger]

I, I, I never cried a single tear.

[Emma]

Sobbing.

[Nick Wiger]

You're gonna make me cry now. There's. There, there. I'm trying to think of what I was younger, like, when they would say, like, you can't have soda or something.

[Mike Mitchell]

I think probably it would have been more sweets, like my grandma's chocolate Chocolate chip cookies. If so that you can't have any more cookies, I'd be really, I'd probably be really upset. But I, I also was like a pretty emotionless child, so I, I wasn't like prone to crying. Feds.

[Nick Wiger]

I, I would say I'm not surprised by this info.

[Mike Mitchell]

I guess I would, I would say that I would like that. I really liked lasagna as a kid

[Nick Wiger]

and I really one of those quiet babies that they were like, we're not sure if there's like something wrong with him or like.

[Mike Mitchell]

Yeah, I don't, I don't, I honestly don't know. I remember my baby baby period. But I, but I do know that I was a very large baby Mitch. Like you, you and I were both. I was 10 pounds. I was a big boy, like Jay

[Emma]

z. I was 10 pounds 3 ounces. Yeah.

[Mike Mitchell]

Wow.

[Nick Wiger]

Big babies in here.

[Emma]

I was two weeks late too. So I was late and big.

[Nick Wiger]

Wow. Yeah, I was, I was close to 10, maybe, maybe nine point something, but close to 10.

[Mike Mitchell]

I was like 10 pounds 6 ounces.

[Joe Wengert]

It was a big. That's huge. Yeah.

[Mike Mitchell]

Fat as.

[Nick Wiger]

And 10 of those ounces were count cock.

[Emma]

That's.

[Nick Wiger]

There's a old story, Frank Sinatra story

[Mike Mitchell]

that I, I, I, I will say that I loved lasagna as a kid and it was my favorite food. If it was a, if I had a birthday, I still like lasagna, but it's not, not on the same level. If we had a birthday, I was like, I want to go get lasagna. I was so excited for it. My parents, if my, my parents ever made lasagna at home, I'd lose my mind. And I also would intentionally invite comparisons to the Garfield because I was like, I like Garfield. He's very funny. I like that he likes lasagna. And I also like lasagna. It's like, this is, this is so cool. As a kid.

[Nick Wiger]

Is there anything that would make you cry as an adult if they were like, this food is gone forever. Do you think there's like, if they were like fried chickens gone forever, you don't think you would cry?

[Mike Mitchell]

I think I'd make peace with it pretty soon. Oh yeah.

[Nick Wiger]

There's nothing that can make you cry as an adult. I mean, I don't think there's things

[Mike Mitchell]

that can make me cry as an adult. Adult. A handful of things. But I mean, like, I think that was the fried chicken disappearing. As much as I love fried chicken, I could, I could live without it.

[Nick Wiger]

I think like anywhere from 0 to 15. If you told me pizza was gone forever, I'd cry.

[Mike Mitchell]

You'd cry?

[Nick Wiger]

Yeah, I cry.

[Mike Mitchell]

Like, straight up cry.

[Nick Wiger]

Yeah. Probably close to 50. Yeah. I mean, your favorite food in the world being gone.

[Mike Mitchell]

I think I just.

[Nick Wiger]

I think I'd be sad.

[Joe Wengert]

I just don't think I'd have that emotional response. Me neither. I think I'd be closer to anger or something. Right. They'd be like, why we have to do something about this. Yes. I don't think I would go to.

[Nick Wiger]

I mean, crying is the right answer to have.

[Amelia]

Right.

[Nick Wiger]

Why is this happening? There's some weird rule that it's gone. It doesn't make any sense because plus.

[Mike Mitchell]

And this is the thing they've been talking about for years. I don't know if it ever, ever happened, but they'd be like. Like bananas could just disappear.

[Joe Wengert]

Like.

[Mike Mitchell]

Like if there are no more bananas.

[Nick Wiger]

That is one of your favorite foods.

[Mike Mitchell]

I love bananas. I'm in bananas all the time. A banana, it's. It's a regular part of my diet. So if I just had to live with no more bananas, I'd be like, little bit.

[Nick Wiger]

Imagine Donkey Kong in that scenario.

[Mike Mitchell]

Well, like, we already experienced what it is when his whole. When his whole banana horde goes missing.

[Nick Wiger]

That's true.

[Mike Mitchell]

And he kind of goes on a rampage.

[Nick Wiger]

He does, yeah. Yeah.

[Emma]

I just.

[Nick Wiger]

He would be very upset.

[Mike Mitchell]

He'd be very upset.

[Nick Wiger]

He would be. He would have that mad reaction.

[Emma]

Yeah.

[Mike Mitchell]

Was. Was there any food, though, Joe, as a kid where you were like, I really, really wanted this. If I. It got restricted from me, I'd be upset.

[Joe Wengert]

I really loved root beer. I think if there was. If I was denied root beer beer, I was such a good boy. I'm having a hard time putting myself in this position. I can't imagine my parents ever saying no to me about anything.

[Mike Mitchell]

What's the food like as an adult? If you. If this was.

[Nick Wiger]

I do. I think soda, though, is a good thing. I think so. Especially children of the.

[Joe Wengert]

I remember I just, like, would fantasize about soda. And they weren't restricting it from me. We weren't like a. No soda house and I have to go see somewhere else. But I remember being in school being like, it would be so great to have a whole swimming pool full of root beer. That's the most disgusting thing in the world.

[Nick Wiger]

That's what I. I think soda was just such a. So big in the. In when we were growing up. That was. That was. That to me, is a thing a child would cry over. It's like no soda.

[Emma]

Yeah.

[Mike Mitchell]

I think sugary cereals too was one. Like I loved having bad cereals. And so I think if like that was taken away from me, never was but that would have upset me or, or, or if there was ever a thing I really was craving like Pop Tarts and I couldn't get. Get it. I could, I could see that making me upset.

[Joe Wengert]

I remember there being a lot of tears like when. If we were spending the weekend with my cousins. I had three cousins that are around the same age as me and my sister and getting the variety pack of the little mini boxes of cereal. Like fighting over who was going to get what from that.

[Nick Wiger]

We were just in Orlando and I bought a couple of those mini packs and they were fun. They were fun to get.

[Joe Wengert]

Yeah.

[Nick Wiger]

Yeah.

[Emma]

Good time.

[Mike Mitchell]

Amelia, Emma. Any. Any childhood favorite foods that would you throw a fit if you didn't have first?

[Amelia]

I want to shout out Sam golden from Holiday Heart Studio. He is the pianist who played that song.

[Mike Mitchell]

Thanks for sharing, Sam.

[Emma]

Hell yeah.

[Amelia]

I remember my mom not letting me drink milk anymore when I was like.

[Emma]

And that upset you?

[Amelia]

I used to have a bottle. I used to. Or like maybe I was like four. I remember having a bottle of milk and honey every night before bed.

[Joe Wengert]

Wow.

[Amelia]

And then maybe around five or six. I remember her saying, you're too old for this now. And then she was like, this is the last one you're getting. And I was devastated.

[Nick Wiger]

You should have stayed up in San Jose a couple days more.

[Amelia]

It wasn't breast milk though. It was cow's milk.

[Mike Mitchell]

But you could smell it.

[Nick Wiger]

You would also easily drink breast milk.

[Amelia]

I would shoot that.

[Mike Mitchell]

You'd still have milk in other contexts though. It just was not the pre bed milk. Or would you. That was it for milk?

[Emma]

Milk with dinner or.

[Amelia]

No, I think that was it for milk.

[Mike Mitchell]

That's wild.

[Emma]

Yeah, that is milk with dinner like every night. I think. Yeah, it was skim milk and I didn't love that. I can't think of anything. I guess if my parents took dessert away I probably would have been upset. But we used to. My grandmother had this rule that if you didn't finish dinner you didn't eat all your dinner to her satisfaction. You had to go to bed. And that would make me cry because the dinner was early at her house at like 5:30. So there was. And she was not a good cook. So there are many nights when grandma was babysitting that I was in bed at like 6:30pm Jesus. And I hated that.

[Mike Mitchell]

That would.

[Emma]

That would make me cry.

[Nick Wiger]

I actually just remembered one of my favorite things as a kid that I did that I didn't think of one of my favorite treats. And I would cry if, if these weren't given to me. Blue cookies.

[Mike Mitchell]

If you have a question or comment,

[Nick Wiger]

seven more years to cry about it because I'll be the age of 50 and I'll still be a child, supposedly.

[Mike Mitchell]

You can email [e-mail] or leave us a voicemail at 830-Go- Do. That's 830-463-6844. Our producer is Emma Erdbrink, associate producer Emilio Marino. Our video editor is Mike Dorfman. Doughboys [e-mail] doughboys and emma we got some live shows. We're going to the south at the end of the month.

[Emma]

We're going to the South. We're going to North Carolina. We're going to be in Raleigh and then Charlotte and then Atlanta and we got two shows in Atlanta.

[Joe Wengert]

Still.

[Emma]

Tickets available for the that late show. It's going to be the 27th, 28th and 29th.

[Mike Mitchell]

And our guest Carl Tart will be joining us. So how fun would that be? [e-mail] live and get the Doughboys Double our weekly bonus episode [e-mail] and watch Kevin on Prime. Joe Wingert, thanks so much for being here.

[Joe Wengert]

Thanks for having me.

[Mike Mitchell]

Plug the show again and anything else you want to share.

[Joe Wengert]

Yeah, please. All eight episodes are on right now on Amazon Prime. Mitch and Nick are both in it. They're great. And I think it gets better. And it's got a lot of heart. And you should watch the season to the end. It's got a little bit of an arc to the first season. So please check it out so that we can keep making more of it.

[Nick Wiger]

And it's hilarious. And there's so many funny, funny, so many funny actors are, are in there. And I was lucky to be a part of it.

[Mike Mitchell]

I was thinking outside of, you know, the John Waters and the, the Whoopi Goldbergs of the world, which is, which is, which is great. Jason Schwartzman. It's, there's also people in our world. A lot of a number of Doughboys guest including Gil Azaria, who just had

[Joe Wengert]

yeah, we got Ben Rogers is in the show and Pam Murphy, as I mentioned, Neil Casey. A lot of great people from the comedy stuff are sort of the other tertiary characters. And then we have a ton of great guest stars. Quinta Brunson is in the first season and Cary Elways, Stephen Malchus From Pavement makes an appearance, which is weird and fun. Yeah, it's a lot of fun stuff.

[Nick Wiger]

I got to talk pavement. My character gets to talk pavement in an episode.

[Joe Wengert]

Yes. And I remember you were like, is there really going to be Pavement? At that point, I was like, I hope so. Or otherwise. This my dad.

[Mike Mitchell]

Wow. Well, that'll do.

[Nick Wiger]

It's a hilarious show. Check it out.

[Mike Mitchell]

Kevin on Prime. That'll do it for this episode of Doughboys. Until next time, for the spoon of my Mike Mitchell. I'm Nick Tucker Weger. Happy eating.

[Nick Wiger]

See ya.

[Amelia]

Hi, I am Mandy Moore.

[Nick Wiger]

Sterling K. Brown. And I'm Chris Sullivan. And we host the podcast that was Us now on Headgum.

[Mike Mitchell]

Each episode, we're going to go into

[Amelia]

a deep dive from our show.

[Mike Mitchell]

This is us.

[Nick Wiger]

That's right.

[Mike Mitchell]

We're going to go episode by episode.

[Amelia]

We're also going to pepper in episodes with different guest stars and writers and casting directors.

[Nick Wiger]

Are we going to cry?

[Mike Mitchell]

Yes, a little bit.

[Nick Wiger]

Are we going to laugh a lot?

[Mike Mitchell]

A whole lot.

[Nick Wiger]

That's what I'm hoping, man.

[Mike Mitchell]

Listen to.

[Nick Wiger]

That was us on your favorite podcast app. Or watch full video episodes on YouTube or Spotify. New episodes every Tuesday.

[Joe Wengert]

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[Nick Wiger]

And I'm Jeff Tremaine.

[Mike Mitchell]

Welcome to Jackass the Podcast, a new show coming to.

[Ryan]

Frank.

[Mike Mitchell]

Coming to.

[Nick Wiger]

That's what it is.

[Joe Wengert]

Hello, I'm Johnny Knoxville.

[Mike Mitchell]

And I'm Jeff Tremaine. Welcome to Jackass the Podcast, a new show now on Headgum.

[Joe Wengert]

I've learned a Jackass movie has to be really 90 minutes.

[Nick Wiger]

Every minute over is a minute to go.

[Mike Mitchell]

Apparently, there's only so much butthole you can take. We're going to take you behind the scenes of our entire history. All the best, best spits, bad behavior,

[Joe Wengert]

and even worse decisions. All of it.

[Mike Mitchell]

Sometimes we don't make the right decisions.

[Joe Wengert]

Jeff. I've noticed that every.

[Mike Mitchell]

Every so often with guests like Spike Jones.

[Joe Wengert]

I think let's commit to Jackass the podcast.

[Mike Mitchell]

What was it gonna be called?

[Joe Wengert]

The Jackass Podcast Podcast. Without you, the IQ drops significantly.

[Mike Mitchell]

Steve O. There's a strong chance that were it not for Jackass, that I would be in clown makeup. Right this Chris Ponus, that shot of

[Nick Wiger]

your butt just cruising up.

[Joe Wengert]

I'm like, yeah, I got that on tv.

[Mike Mitchell]

God bless Dave England.

[Joe Wengert]

Yeah.

[Mike Mitchell]

When you come in and you're being

[Nick Wiger]

really nice, I'm like, damn it. Something bad's going to happen to me.

[Mike Mitchell]

We man.

[Joe Wengert]

Jeff grabbed me from the back of the head and threw a punch.

[Nick Wiger]

The whole bar just stopped and wanted

[Joe Wengert]

to kill me like and some of the crew that's been with us from the beginning. I had to share a room with this guy. I left a nice surprise in the toilet for him every time. Apparently he hates to flush.

[Mike Mitchell]

Subscribe to Jackass the Podcast on Spotify, Apple Podcasts, Pocket Cast, or wherever the hell you get podcasts.

[Nick Wiger]

Our new episodes drop on June 18th. Look out for new episodes in your feed every Thursday.

[Mike Mitchell]

Watch video episodes on YouTube and follow along with us on Instagram and TikTok at jackass the Podcast what were we just talking about? Probably buttholes.

[Nick Wiger]

That was a headgum podcast.