Panera 5 with David Wain

Summary

Doughboys: Panera 5 with David Wain (July 9, 2026)

Podcast about chain restaurants, hosted by Mike Mitchell and Nick "Tiger" Wiger

Special guests: David Wain (Wet Hot American Summer, Stella, Middle-Aged Dad Jam Band), Amelia Marino (associate producer), Sam Rogich (engineer)

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Episode Overview

In this episode, the Doughboys crew returns for their fifth review of Panera Bread, focusing on its new "Salad Stuffers" limited time offering (LTO). The episode features much discussion about chain restaurant consistency, the decline of fast food quality, behind-the-scenes Hollywood stories, and a robust, comedic snack segment sampling trendy tinned fish. The cast also talks about David Wain’s new film, “Gail Daughtry and the Celebrity Sex Pass,” upcoming comedy/music tour dates, and the cultural phenomenon of "celebrity sex passes."

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Table of Contents

• Intro & Announcements
• Cultural/Economic Deep Dive: Panera’s Nazi Ties & Corporate Ownership
• Meet the Crew & Banter Highlights
• David Wain’s New Movie & Tour
• Jewish Delis vs Panera
• Main Panera Review & "Salad Stuffers" Discussion
• Tinned Fish Snack Segment ("Snack or Whack")
• Listener Question: Savory Toothpaste?
• Fork Scores & Final Thoughts
• Notable Quotes

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Intro & Announcements

00:00–04:52

• Excitement for the upcoming “Munch Madness 11: Tournament of Champions Reheated Rivalry Finale” (July 12).
• Nicole Byer and Betsy Sodaro will appear live.
• Wiger and Mitchell riff about live show logistics, ticket discounts for Patreon subscribers.

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Cultural/Economic Deep Dive: Panera’s Nazi Ties & Corporate Ownership

04:40–05:00

• Wiger delivers a monologue on Panera’s parent company (JAB Holdings), the Riemann family’s Nazi history, their modern conglomerate, and Panera’s evolution from St. Louis Bread Company.
• “The Riemanns, like most fascists and their spawn, will of course never suffer any real consequences. Not as long as their companies keep churning out just good enough limited time offerings like a hollowed-out loaf of bread with a fucking salad jammed into it.” (04:50)

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Meet the Crew & Banter Highlights

05:00–16:34

• General introductions: Nick “Tiger” Wiger, Mike “Spoonman” Mitchell, associate producer Amelia Marino, and David Wain.
• Fun Peter Falk/Columbo impressions (“Just one more question!”) and jokes about Sith from Star Wars (06:13–06:23).
• Goofs on live show travel, Emma’s absence, and nicknames for engineer Sam (“Sam the Man,” “Sam Dogich”).
• Recaps from their recent tour; reminiscence about New York Knicks’ NBA championship (11:26).
• Extended riff about NBA legends, live comedy shows, minions/movies, and digital/analog notes (13:01).
• Drops, running bits, and inside jokes about podcast production.

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David Wain’s New Movie & Tour

16:19–25:03, 57:00+

• David Wain joins to plug his new film, “Gail Daughtry and the Celebrity Sex Pass,” opening July 10.
• Plot summary: “Zoe Deutch as a Midwestern woman with a celebrity sex pass agreement. Her fiancé takes it literally after meeting his celebrity, triggering a quest across LA for her to even the score with Jon Hamm.” (24:32–25:03)
• Cast includes Zoe Deutch, Jon Hamm, Carrie Kenny Silver (psychic cameo).
• Wain discusses Middle Aged Dad Jam Band: “It was just us screwing around in the garage as dads, and now... touring all over the place. We have a big tour coming up on the east coast.” (20:57)
• New products: Middle-Aged Dad beer at Dogfish Head Brewery (21:28).

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Jewish Delis vs Panera

34:17–40:01

• Wain, Amelia, and the hosts debate why they didn’t review a classic Jewish deli instead.
• Recommendations: New LA deli “Mish,” Max & Helen’s (Phil Rosenthal’s), Langer’s (near MacArthur Park), Cantor’s, Katz’s in NYC.
• Discussion of portion sizes, overpricing, and TikTok fame of famous delis.
• Observations about the lack of national Jewish deli chains (Noah’s Bagels discussed as closest analog).

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Main Panera Review & “Salad Stuffers” Discussion

Panera Critiques

53:46–66:22; 69:30+

• Sam describes working at Panera in high school: “It just ruined me on the soups because they would come in the bag... at the end of the day, we would just take the leftovers and put them back in those soup bags and they were undated.” (54:11–54:39)
• General agreement: Panera’s soups and food come parboiled or assembled from bags.
• Amelia: “First time I went into a Panera, I could just feel a gut feeling this is disgusting... I don't think I've ever gone back in.” (55:04)

“Salad Stuffers” LTO

59:15–71:00

• What is it: A big salad in a hollowed-out roll/loaf—existing salads, now crammed into “Italian stuffers” (not technically baguettes).
• General consensus: Bread is low-quality, salads soggy or “mushed,” travel/time doesn’t help, and some real hazards (“I bit into my sandwich and there was an olive with an olive pit in it, and I almost cracked my tooth.” – Mitchell, 62:48).
• Positive: Panera’s mac and cheese—a little nostalgic, very standard, “not bad.”
• Negative: The “cranberry orange slice” dessert is “terrible, comes out of a bag too.” – Amelia (72:26)
• Sam notes: “The bread used to be a lot different, more fluffy and like brioche style. Not that it was even that great. Then... tomatoes are really good this time.” (76:08)
• David reveals he found a hair in his sandwich—“That’s disgusting.” (77:11–77:19)

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Tinned Fish Snack Segment (“Snack or Whack”)

92:29–108:22
Hosts sample trendy tinned fish (mostly Fishwife brand) for their “Snack or Whack” segment.

• Amelia: “I am a tinned fish aficionado. I eat tinned fish almost daily... I really, really love it.” (93:19)
• Wide sampling of sardines, smoked trout, spicy/albacore tuna, classic King Oscar.
• Mitchell: “Way more than I ever thought I would. All of these–great. I’m kind of shocked.” (102:03)
• General verdict: ALL snacks, no whacks. Preference for simple versions (olive oil) over “soy ginger” or more experimental flavors.
• "King Oscar in a can" joke: “Excuse me sir, do you have King Oscar in a can?... Why don’t you let him out?” (old-school vaudeville style; the crew riffs on whether it’s a good joke).

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Listener Question: Savory Toothpaste?

109:12–113:13
Brady, “Done number one eater," asks:
If toothpaste was savory, what flavor would you like?

• Answers include:
  • Amelia: Pretzel
  • David: Pesto
  • Wiger: Nacho cheese or wasabi (“but maybe that’s too minty?”)
  • Mitch: Steak & potatoes
  • Riffing on “beef broth mouthwash” and “labia mouthwash” (running gag)
• “You gotta ask the pussy eater!” – Amelia (111:41)

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Fork Scores & Final Thoughts

87:26–91:15

David Wain:

• Salad Stuffers: 2–2.5 forks – “The bread was very subpar and the salad was a little soggy.” (87:59)
• Overall Panera: 2 forks

Mike Mitchell (“Spoonman”):

• “Didn’t bother me as much as everyone else. Greek salad in bread was fine. I almost broke my tooth… 2.75 forks [for stuffers], overall 3.75, removed from Golden Plate Club.” (88:28, 88:43)

Nick Wiger ("Tiger")

• “Right thing [to order] is not the salad stuffer. This LTO just doesn’t work. The low quality bread and soggy greens, I’d rather just have a salad.” Gives Mac & Cheese a 5 for “being what you expect.” Overall, 2 forks for the visit, 1 fork for salad stuffer. (89:38–92:00)

General Consensus:

• Panera is reliable and consistent, sometimes comforting, but recent offerings “don’t work,” especially Salad Stuffers (soggy, low-quality bread, uninspired).
• Mac & Cheese and (sometimes) soups remain standouts if you adjust expectations.

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Notable Quotes & Moments

• Wiger on Panera as a cultural artifact:
  “The Riemanns, like most fascists and their spawn, will of course never suffer any real consequences. Not as long as their companies keep churning out just good enough limited time offerings like a hollowed-out loaf of bread with a fucking salad jammed into it.” (04:50)

• On Panera soups:
  “They’d come in the bag… at the end of the day, we would just take the leftovers and put them back in those soup bags and they were undated.” – Sam (54:31)

• Mitchell nearly breaking a tooth:
  “I bit into my sandwich and there was an olive with an olive pit in it, and I almost cracked my tooth.” (62:48)

• On the quality decline in chains:
  “The chains are also getting like more evil and the food is sucking more that it’s harder to do [the podcast].” – Mitchell (56:42)

• Tinned fish surprise:
  “I like this way more than I ever thought I would. All of these–great. I’m kind of shocked.” – Mitchell (102:03)

• On Panera’s LTO:
  “The stuffer was bad and the other things… did not impress me. This was a pretty disappointing outing.” – Wiger (91:15)

• Running joke:
  Mitchell: “You should sign your bicep. …a calendar is a great idea.” (30:25–30:41)

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Memorable Segments & Timestamps

• Panera corporate history/Nazis: 04:40–05:00
• Sith/Columbo/Star Wars Banter: 06:13–06:37
• David Wain’s new movie summary: 24:32–25:03
• Behind-the-scenes food on film sets: 40:26–41:53
• Panera Soup Horror Stories: 54:11–54:39
• Salad Stuffer review begins: 59:15+
• Olive Pit / Tooth Incident: 62:48
• Dessert (“Cranberry Orange Slice”) panned: 72:16
• Hair in Sandwich: 77:11
• Tinned Fish ASMR, snack or whack: 92:29–108:22
• Fork Scores: 87:26–91:15
• Listener Q: Savory Toothpaste: 109:12–113:13

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Final Remarks

• Panera’s new “Salad Stuffers” failed to impress; critique focuses on sogginess, low bread quality, and general uninspired execution.
• Mac & cheese called out as a reliable highlight.
• The broader decline in fast food and chain consistency is lamented.
• Tinned fish, surprisingly, is the star of the episode—everyone loves Fishwife and King Oscar brands.
• David Wain’s new film and tours are warmly promoted, with gratitude for community and comedy connections.

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This summary captures the in-depth banter, food critique, irreverent comedy, and cultural musings that make Doughboys unique, with special attention to the memorable quotes and timestamps for listeners interested in the show’s signature blend of review and comedy.

Transcript

[Mike Mitchell]

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[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

Munch Madness 11, the tournament of champions reheated rivalry finale is happening live. One day later than we previously scheduled.

[Mike Mitchell]

That's right, Wise. One day later than we previously scheduled. We're gonna close this bad boy up. It's been months.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

It's been months. The Dodiac has had Commissioner Suss. But finally, on Sunday, July 12, from 6pm to 10pm Eastern, I'm just say 6pm to question mark because things might get wild. 6pm Eastern. We are going to get get to the bottom of Munch Madness 11.

[Mike Mitchell]

That's right, wise. We got a pre show at 6pm and then the main show starts at 7pm get locked in. We're going to get Susser back. He's probably wasting away to nothing.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

And then we are having a live post show call in right afterwards. That will keep going and y' all can participate.

[Mike Mitchell]

Look, the times are going to fluctuate a little bit.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

Fluctuate? We might not start right on time. We usually do. We usually are 100% rigid. Every live event starts right on time.

[Mike Mitchell]

No, no one can.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

We might break that pattern. Mitch's ring camera went off.

[Mike Mitchell]

It's the Dodia Dodiac. Let me look.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

I. Mitch is going to look at the Dodiac while he's doing that.

[Mike Mitchell]

It is.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

Wow. Unbelievable. But you know who else is going to be there? Nicole Byer and Betsy Sadaro. That's right. Our guests Nicole and Betsy, two of the funniest people in the world are going to be joining the Dodiac. And hopefully Susser.

[Mike Mitchell]

He's walking Susser like a dog right now. He has him on a leash. It's disgusting.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

That's so demeaning.

[Mike Mitchell]

It's awful.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

Yeah. Anyway, tickets are $16 for general admission or $8 for Patreon subscribers. That's right. If you're on the Patreon, you get a 50% discount. So if you're not on the Patreon, you might as well join.

[Mike Mitchell]

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[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

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[Mike Mitchell]

Interesting little marketing thing we did here. If you join the patrons free.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

Sunday, July 12, 6pm oh, it's kind of free. It's, it's, it's, it's half price. It's half price. You can't say it's free. It's not free. You have to still cost you get

[Mike Mitchell]

what I'm talking about?

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

You get what you're saying? Yeah.

[Mike Mitchell]

Basically if you're on the Patreon, it

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

basically would be it pays for one month of Patreon by itself by virtue of the 50% discount which you're getting for a great show. A super sized biggie sized finale July 12th at 6pm Eastern with the Colbyer and Betsy Sodaro but much madness. 11 the tournament reheated rivalry finale. Don't miss it.

[Mike Mitchell]

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[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

In 1984, after the death of German tycoon Alfred Riemann Jr. His enormous estate was split amongst his nine children. Today, the surviving Riemanns, Germany's version of the Walton family, each have Nepo wealth in the billions and collectively control Jab Holding Company, a multinational conglomerate that has its tendrils in every every sector of the global economy. Riemann Jr. As one might expect, was himself a beneficiary of nepotism, the scion of Alfred Riemann Sr's sprawling business empire. But also, as one might Expect for a 20th century German family that generated generational wealth, the Riemanns were fucking Nazis. In 2019, the German newspaper Bild am Sontag revealed that Riemann Sr. And Jr. Were both enthusiastic Nazis and the company used slave labor from Nazi occupied territories to staff its vast industrial holdings. The Riemann Nepo babies were naturally shocked, shocked by these revelations and selflessly pledged 10 million euros to charity as penance of their collective wealth, totaling an estimated 33 billion. But this conscience laundering has been more than enough to muddle through this seemingly ruinous scandal. And Today JAB Holding Company, which has existed in the Riemann lineage for nearly 200 years, has come to focus on food service as its primary moneymaker. Among this holding company's holdings are Krispy Kreme doughnuts, fellow round Hole broker, Einstein Brothers Bagels, Pret, A Mange Caribou coffee, and a fast casual bakery chain founded in 1986 as the St. Louis Bread Company. Powered by its loungeable restaurant spaces, array of lunch options, savory soups and all you can sip drinks, the concept expanded nationally and internationally, pivoting to a more geographically universal name that roughly translates as granary. The Riemanns, like most fascists in their spawn, will of course never suffer any real consequences. Not as long as their companies keep churning out just good enough limited time offerings like a hollowed out loaf of bread with a fucking salad jammed into it. This week on Doughboys, we return once again to Panera for their salad stuffers. Double dough is the dough. Doughboys.

[Amelia Marino]

Double dough boy.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

Welcome to Doughboys, the podcast about chain restaurants. I'm Nick Tiger Weiger along with my co host, Eater Falk, the spoon man, Mike Mitchell.

[Mike Mitchell]

Oh, like Peter Falk.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

Like Peter Falk. But Eater Falk. A silly roast inspired by Columbo. Peter Falk. My grandma loved Colombo and she would always get me McDonald's so I'd be quiet while we watched it together. She was a wonderful woman. And Amelia's impersonation brought back fond memories. Thanks for.

[Mike Mitchell]

I don't know if David seen Amelia's impersonation, Drew in Chicago.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

Yeah, I think Amelia, our.

[David Wayne]

Our.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

Our associate producer, Emilia Marino. I think you should demo this. This Peter Falk impression.

[David Wayne]

And just one more thing.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

It's good, isn't it? Question. Just one more question. Yeah, I think you said the wrong one is question.

[Mike Mitchell]

Yeah, I like that. You have to turn into your breath too.

[Amelia Marino]

It's entertaining. You know, Kevin Pollock really closed the book on that one.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

I feel like Amelia.

[Amelia Marino]

Yeah.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

It is a. I think it is a. It is a good impression. Kevin Pollock, Pasto Boys, guest friend of the show. Has a. Does have an incredible impression and I think show did it.

[Amelia Marino]

The definitive.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

The definitive one. Yeah. But I think yours is good.

[David Wayne]

Thank you.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

You put your own spin on it.

[Mike Mitchell]

Sounds like it's time to retire it.

[Amelia Marino]

There's room for two.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

There's always room for two.

[Mike Mitchell]

Yeah, yeah.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

Like the Sith.

[Amelia Marino]

Sure.

[Mike Mitchell]

That's true. Yes, that is true. There's always. There is always two.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

Yeah.

[Mike Mitchell]

Or is it always there's another. There's always another. There's always two.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

I think there's always two.

[Mike Mitchell]

There is always a master and apprentice.

[Amelia Marino]

Yeah.

[Mike Mitchell]

Who's your favorite Sith? Darth. Darth Maul?

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

Darth Vader. Come on.

[Mike Mitchell]

Yeah, he could go with the original.

[Amelia Marino]

What about Darth Sidious?

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

Darth Sidious is really cool.

[Mike Mitchell]

Sidious is pretty cool.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

I don't really like what they did.

[Mike Mitchell]

It's gross looking though, that. And that is a. That is a. That's a little bit of a detraction.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

Yeah. Well, it's also like he does the lightning trick on Mace Windu, but then his own lightning kind of gets on him.

[Mike Mitchell]

Yeah.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

It's like his, you know, hoisted on his own petard.

[Mike Mitchell]

Also a little racist. Going after Mace Windu.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

Wow.

[Amelia Marino]

Well, window can get very Windu.

[Mike Mitchell]

Then Windu flies out the window.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

I know. How about that?

[Mike Mitchell]

Yeah. Pretty good, George Lucas.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

Yeah, pretty good. Honestly, that's just classic storytelling.

[Mike Mitchell]

Do you Regret being here.

[Amelia Marino]

May I leave?

[Mike Mitchell]

Yeah, yeah, Anytime you want to.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

Roasted birdfuck.com Amelia is here. Of course. As always. Emma, our producer. The Emma VP Emma. Emma Erdbrink is on the road. She's in transit back, so she was not able to make this record.

[Mike Mitchell]

However, the seat where Jimmy once said

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

is empty, like Tiny Jimmy's seat is empty. It is kept open for her. And of course, the Wally and Irma statuettes remain as part of the tableau, but our guest engineer, Sam Rogich, is back with us. What's up, Sam?

[Mike Mitchell]

What's up, Sam?

[David Wayne]

Hey. Hey.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

Thanks for having me back. Can I make. Can I. Can I pitch. Can I pitch something? Yes. Sam Dogich. Sam Dogich. That's good.

[Mike Mitchell]

Yeah, it was. It was awesome. Where is. Where is Emma? Where is she?

[David Wayne]

I can look at her location.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

Okay. Yeah. Amelia's gonna dox her location.

[Amelia Marino]

Something.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

Yeah, please.

[Amelia Marino]

And this is not original, like it's been said before, but about other people named Sam, probably, but Sam the Man.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

Sam the man is pretty good.

[Amelia Marino]

It is.

[Mike Mitchell]

Can I be honest? I think it's better than Sam. Do get.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

Okay, well, Sam Dogich can be, like, kind of like another one, but Sam the Man can be kind of your main nickname. There has to be a Doughboys universe version.

[Amelia Marino]

Yeah.

[Mike Mitchell]

Yeah.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

My uncle used to call me Samla,

[Amelia Marino]

which I kind of like.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

That is pretty good.

[Mike Mitchell]

I don't know, like, Hamilot or Samula.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

Samila.

[Mike Mitchell]

Sam.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

Samila.

[Mike Mitchell]

Yeah.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

Okay.

[Amelia Marino]

Or Sam. My dick itches.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

How'd you know?

[Amelia Marino]

Just a thought.

[Mike Mitchell]

I've checked Emma's location. She's on Little St. James.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

Oh, boy. Emma.

[Mike Mitchell]

Emma. Come on.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

Come on. I guess there's a lot of room for Jemmy to run around.

[Mike Mitchell]

That's true. And I guess it is empty now.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

It is empty. Yeah.

[Mike Mitchell]

Is it empty? Where is she? Can you want a dock? Oh, sorry.

[David Wayne]

She's in Torrey, Utah.

[Mike Mitchell]

Torrey, Utah.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

She's making her way across the country? Yeah.

[Mike Mitchell]

Where the hell is she?

[David Wayne]

I just said she's in Torry, Utah.

[Mike Mitchell]

Wait, why isn't she here? What's happening?

[Amelia Marino]

There's a big brothel there. That's probably why.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

Oh, wow. I didn't realize there were brothels in Utah.

[Amelia Marino]

In Torrey, there's a really fun one.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

Torrey, specifically.

[Mike Mitchell]

We took a month off of Doughboys. We took a month off of Doughboys. And Emma said, still not enough for me.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

That would have to record.

[Mike Mitchell]

She's not. Yeah. Oh, Next. She'll be back Next. But I'm very happy that we have Sam.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

Yeah, she'll be back real soon.

[Amelia Marino]

Last time I saw you guys was in Florida. No. Maybe.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

Oh, yeah, that's right. We were at a live show. You were backstage.

[Amelia Marino]

That was so fun.

[Mike Mitchell]

That, like, melts my brain because that

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

was one bump in.

[Mike Mitchell]

That was the day that NASA shot the rocket to space. Yes, we all remember that.

[Amelia Marino]

Those live shows on the tour were awesome, by the way.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

Thank you.

[Amelia Marino]

I'm assuming.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

Yeah, no, they were fantastic. My parents loved it. Oh, I'm so glad.

[Mike Mitchell]

Yeah. That was amazing that we met your parents. I mean, I don't know if they should ever have watched the shows, but it was fun.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

We had a great time.

[Mike Mitchell]

We had a very good time.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

Speaking of amazing, Mitch, I don't know if you got a chance to see this, but as of this record, there is a fresh piece of art that has been unveiled to the world. World Kane's Anthem by the artist and also actor Adrien Brody. Do we have a shot of Kane's Anthem? That's right. Adrien Brody is friends with the. The founder of Raising Canes. And so he made this gigantic wall size collage in tribute to Raising Kane. To Raising Canes, the franchise that includes. I don't. I guess, like, I don't know what it is exactly, but there you go.

[Mike Mitchell]

I think it's a great piece of art.

[Amelia Marino]

I think a great way to talk about it is what you just said. There you go.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

There is one of the Kane's dogs up there. I'm not sure which Kane that is. Maybe Kane iii. I think that's the current cane. There was a Forbes magazine cover with the founder on it. And there's a. There's a raising cane's logo at the center of it. And then just with things like, I love New York as well. So there you go.

[Amelia Marino]

There you go.

[Mike Mitchell]

Van Gogh. There you go. There it is. That's my art.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

Kane's Anthem is a vibrant mixed media collage that was born from admiration and respect for my friend Todd Graves, the owner and founder of Raising Cane's. The work echoes the grit, perseverance and entrepreneurial spirit that defines Graves Journey, the spirit of nyc and an urban aesthetic that has always spoken to me growing up here. Adrien Brody. I must have been happy about the New York Knicks championship. Yeah, Emilia, you were pretty happy.

[David Wayne]

I'm very happy about it.

[Amelia Marino]

Knicks in five. Let's go.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

Very cool. What a moment. What a moment for the New York,

[Mike Mitchell]

for all this, for then this. I was in that. I was. As a Celtics fan, I was in New York in this hellhole of the Knicks winning and being in Ubers and hearing people celebrate at the bars and you going crazy.

[Amelia Marino]

Don't you feel like by the time you get to that point you're rooting for the East Coast?

[Mike Mitchell]

No, no, no. I got. No, no, I can't. I, I, I. It's, I'm New York. Everyone hates Boston so much that I can't do it.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

That's true.

[Mike Mitchell]

But they really went on a heater.

[Amelia Marino]

But Boston sucks is the thing.

[Mike Mitchell]

See, this is the issue. This is the issue. They were unstoppable. I wish Biggie Smalls was alive to some of the Knicks wives so that they would get them off their game.

[Amelia Marino]

No, that's also a good point.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

Yeah. Which. Who was that? Who was that back in the day?

[Mike Mitchell]

That was revealed recently and it was a player who has now passed. You can look it up. But, but it was, but, but they did just. I think they really. They talked about. On ESPN or on some, on some around the horn.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

They probably talked about an espn.

[Mike Mitchell]

On some around the horn type show. They revealed who it was. But we needed Biggie Smalls to throw them off their games. Fuck some wives.

[Amelia Marino]

We read the McLaughlin report.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

That's probably what it was. It was probably the political roundtable show, the McLaughlin Report, hosted by the now dead McLaughlin. I think, Mitch, I can't look it up because I have relieved myself of my device. I used to have an iPad, but now after this, we had a little bit of a break that we took after our tour. We're back in the studio today. Back the saddle, back in the content mines. I have shifted over to a, to a clipboard. Classic clipboard.

[Amelia Marino]

I love that.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

Yeah, a little, little analog. Trying to go analog here.

[Mike Mitchell]

Are, Are, are you. I'm, I'm proud of you. I think it's great.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

Okay.

[Mike Mitchell]

It's already been annoying so far. Like you've, there's already been conversations about it.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

Well, how's it been annoying?

[Mike Mitchell]

It's been a little bit. Oh, wait, I got to hit him with a drop, don't I?

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

Yeah, I know. Yeah.

[Mike Mitchell]

Amelia, hit him with or. Sam, hit him with the drop. It's you, Sam. Thank you, Sam. I'm gonna hit him with the drop. Drop, drop, drop, drop, drop, Drop. Drop. Dread. Dread.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

Dread.

[Mike Mitchell]

Dread. Dread.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

Dread.

[Mike Mitchell]

Dread. Dread, Dread, Dread, dread, Dread. I'm a dread. I'm a dread. I'm a dread. I'm a dread. I'm a dread. I'm a dread. I don't dread. I'm a dread. With A dread. I'm a dread with a dread. I don't dread. I'm a dread with a dread. I'm a Dr. With drop.

[Amelia Marino]

I don't know.

[Mike Mitchell]

There it is.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

There you go.

[Mike Mitchell]

Oh, there you go. I got it wrong already.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

Kind of a bummer that Emma wasn't here to hear such an Emma centric drop.

[Mike Mitchell]

I know that's. I'm sorry, Emma.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

Sorry, Emma. But that's what you get for taking time off.

[Amelia Marino]

She'll hear it on the podcast to be delighted.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

You think so?

[Amelia Marino]

No, I don't think she's.

[Mike Mitchell]

I think she'll zone. She's zoning out right now. Unless we're. And then she hears cut this Emma. Here's a drop about drops. Love the show. Shout out to my brother in law, John, who could probably do a much better job at making drops than me. Don't say that.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

Why didn't you get John to do it? Get some help from John.

[Mike Mitchell]

Kevin from Seattle. He's doing. He's. Leave him alone. I don't yell at your guy.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

I don't know, Kevin.

[Amelia Marino]

Maybe a little help from John would have improved it.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

If you have a drop guy in

[Mike Mitchell]

your family, it's the name of your favorite minion. You're giving the guy a hard time. Isn't Kevin your favorite minion?

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

I mean, I like. Kevin's kind of the lead of the Minions movie, the first one, but I don't think he's called my favorite. I'm sorry, I don't know. I just feel like I like. Bob is so cute. Stuart's kind of the classic one eyed minion. The introduction of Otto in the Minion sequel, Minions, Rise of Gru. That Otto with the braces is a. Is a breakout character. And then this new. This.

[Mike Mitchell]

I think everyone was saying Otto is a breakout character.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

The new Minions movie, Minions and Monsters, directed by Pierre Coffin, who is the voice of the Minions and directed the original back. So it's. It's. It's a. It's a return to form. Return to the franchise for. For old Pierre. It's supposed to be the best one in the series so far, but it introduces James the Minion, who's an aspiring

[Amelia Marino]

film director and co. Starring Zoe Deutsch.

[Mike Mitchell]

That's right.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

That. Wow.

[Amelia Marino]

Yeah.

[Mike Mitchell]

Pierre. What a name. Anytime you write your John Hancock, you're reminded of your mortality.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

Yeah, I guess. I don't know. Is Coffin. If you're in a. If you're a native French speaker, does Coffin have the same. Oh, like, is that the same word?

[Mike Mitchell]

I don't know it might be this up to. Did you guys look anything up?

[David Wayne]

I think it was Anthony Mason. Is the name of the.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

Oh, Anthony Mason.

[Mike Mitchell]

Oh, it was Anthony Mason.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

Did he pass away?

[Mike Mitchell]

I think he did.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

Oh, Rest in power.

[Mike Mitchell]

Are you. Are you a Knicks fan? We should ask.

[Amelia Marino]

I just wanted to say I feel like John Hancock sounds very similar to John Hancock.

[Mike Mitchell]

That is. That is very.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

And of course he's notorious for his allegedly very large.

[Mike Mitchell]

Why scare.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

I'm just saying, I'm like. They just say like John Hancock if

[Amelia Marino]

we're bringing up John Hancock. Inside info.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

Yeah. [e-mail] Very, very excited to have our guest back in studio from Wet Hot American Summer, Middle Aged dad Jam Band and his new movie Gail Daughry and the Celebrity Sex Pass out in theaters starting tomorrow, July 10th. As of this episode's release. David Wayne. Hi, David.

[Amelia Marino]

So exciting.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

Thanks so much for being here.

[Amelia Marino]

So happy to be back.

[Mike Mitchell]

I've been honored with seeing the movie and it's great. So funny and.

[Amelia Marino]

Oh, thank you.

[Mike Mitchell]

Very excited. There's a little cameo in the movie that I think everyone is going to love.

[Amelia Marino]

Oh, yes.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

Let me just say you've also seen

[Mike Mitchell]

the movie Absolute Cine.

[Amelia Marino]

Yeah. Amelia, how many movies have you been in?

[David Wayne]

This is my first movie. I'm so excited.

[Amelia Marino]

It's your film debut.

[David Wayne]

Yes.

[Amelia Marino]

That's very exciting and it couldn't have

[David Wayne]

happened without you, so thank you.

[Amelia Marino]

Well, as the director of the film, I. Obviously not.

[David Wayne]

I'm in it. I'm in it for a couple seconds. It's more than I thought I'd be.

[Mike Mitchell]

And let's just say you got some Columbo type eyes going on in those. In that 30 seconds. You really, you really, you really made that.

[Amelia Marino]

But I mean, there's a close up of you. You. It's all about you. There's a shot that's all about you.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

That's awesome.

[Mike Mitchell]

You really make the most of that.

[David Wayne]

You.

[Mike Mitchell]

You knock it out of the park.

[David Wayne]

I'm a fucking star.

[Mike Mitchell]

Okay, calm down. Our head's gotten too big already.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

You've. You've also seen Gail Daughtry.

[David Wayne]

Yes.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

And.

[David Wayne]

And he was amazing.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

That's awesome. And. And the two of you had a. A little bit of a. Of a post premiere hang. I was not able to attend. But like you, I was out of town.

[Mike Mitchell]

I was invited. Oh, you were here.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

Oh, no, I was out of town. Oh, but you had a. Oh, maybe I wasn't invited.

[Mike Mitchell]

I don't think you were.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

Okay, I wasn't invited. And it was out of town.

[David Wayne]

I was lucky enough to.

[Amelia Marino]

I asked Amelia to invite you and she said no.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

I thought I was invited. I think it just is out of town.

[David Wayne]

I had a plus one. I'm sure I would have had a plus two if I would have brought both of you.

[Amelia Marino]

Let's just say for the record, you were invited.

[Mike Mitchell]

Yeah, sure.

[David Wayne]

Yeah.

[Amelia Marino]

From now on, that's what it would be.

[Mike Mitchell]

Nick Weger, celebrity sex pest, going to see killed photo guy.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

Does that mean. Wait, are you saying I'm a celebrity or are you saying I'm a celebrity?

[Mike Mitchell]

I guess. I guess.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

I think it would endow me as a celebrity.

[Mike Mitchell]

I think you are. I like the second one.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

I just. Your celebrities with my weird sex quirks. What. What did you wait. Post show. You show. Because you sent me something which was. I'm. I'm. I'm spillmonger. I'm always spilling things. Mitch, you had a spill of your own.

[Mike Mitchell]

I did. I don't know if this is very, very embarrassing. I was. Because we. We had a little bit. Can I say. Can I say where we saw the premiere? Is that okay?

[Amelia Marino]

Oh, yeah.

[Mike Mitchell]

We were at the Grove.

[Amelia Marino]

Very exciting spoiler there.

[Mike Mitchell]

The. The. The world famous Grove. And we. And we went and saw the movie at the Grove. And then afterwards you. That you. You guys got to keep the bar open a little later at the Grove, and we all hung out there, and

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

then we were hanging out. McGuffins at the bar at the. At the Grove.

[Mike Mitchell]

We were not.

[David Wayne]

Not the movie theater bar, but no, the Fountain Bar.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

Oh, how exciting. That's fun.

[Mike Mitchell]

Right?

[Amelia Marino]

Where? Inside Baseball la, right?

[Mike Mitchell]

Yeah, right where Grogu was standing at one point, but he was. But he was gone. And then I spilled my entire Mai Tai on the. On the table in front of all the stars. In front of all the stars of the movie. Very embarrassing.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

Been there, have you? No. I mean, yeah, I've had. Very embarrassing.

[Mike Mitchell]

This is a pretty big. This is a pretty. This is a Hollywood spill in front of a lot of Hollywood folks and movers and shakers.

[Amelia Marino]

If you want to recreate what you did, if anyone listening wants to, you could go to the Grove tonight because even though the movie opens tomorrow, you can. There are screenings tonight you can buy tickets for.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

Wow. There you go. Order a Mai Tai at the Fountain Bar.

[Mike Mitchell]

A very good Mai Tai.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

Enjoy Gail Daughtry. And then spill all over the place.

[Amelia Marino]

I'll be there at the 7:31 answering questions afterwards. Wow.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

Very cool.

[Mike Mitchell]

And I gotta say this. Then we had a fun little Meal after that, too. Yes, me and meals. And her father, Ken Marino, which all of our listeners stupidly thought for the longest time. And Mike Rosenstein. The four of us went. And we got some ramen on Melrose.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

What a hang dream. Blunt rotation, as they say.

[Mike Mitchell]

Me, too.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

Yeah.

[David Wayne]

Yeah.

[Mike Mitchell]

All right. That's pretty nice of you.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

We've never enjoyed the kind kind together. I think it gives you anxiety.

[Mike Mitchell]

I don't do. I don't do that sort of thing.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

You don't do it anymore?

[Mike Mitchell]

No, I abide by the laws.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

Yeah. No, yeah.

[Mike Mitchell]

I'll do it with you at some point. I would love to.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

Really?

[Mike Mitchell]

Yeah, sure, why not?

[Amelia Marino]

May I come?

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

Yeah, come on.

[Mike Mitchell]

Please.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

Can I do my first line of coke with you, too?

[Mike Mitchell]

I don't know about that. I don't know if the old.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

I don't think I'm trying. I think it's a good idea for me.

[Mike Mitchell]

Yeah. Yeah. I don't think. I don't. I don't think you should do cocaine.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

Can we talk? Because Middle Aged Dad Jam Band has become a. I think it's like, become a sensation beyond your expectations when you're creating. I mean, like, I just. I'm reading articles about this thing.

[Amelia Marino]

Yeah, it's really. It was just us screwing around in the garage as dads, and now it's become like, I go out and people are like, oh, I know you from Middle Aged Dad Jam Band. I'm like, I also do other things. No. But, yeah, we just did some songs on YouTube and now we're touring all over the place. We have a big tour coming up on the east coast in late July. It's crazy.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

That's awesome.

[Mike Mitchell]

I have a pitch, Emiliano, a food pitch for you guys.

[Amelia Marino]

I love food and I love pitches.

[Mike Mitchell]

Middle Aged Dad Jam Jams you guys make. You sell preserves.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

It's not bad.

[Amelia Marino]

That's a great idea. You know, what we're doing actually, is. I think this is public information. If not, you'll have to cut out. But the Dogfish Head Brewery, where we're starting our tour in July, we're having a big show there, and they're introducing Middle Aged Dad Beer.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

Wow.

[Amelia Marino]

And it's a special beer that has, like, drawings of us on the thing. And we invented. We came up with a whole recipe for it, and it comes with little. It's very tiny print on the can. And it comes with reader's glasses, each can that you can pull off and read the tiny print with.

[Mike Mitchell]

That's good as well. I'm going to admit it's cooler than jellies.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

Yeah, I think. I think. I think a beer is maybe a little bit cooler than a jar of freezers.

[Amelia Marino]

But, yeah, two things can exist.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

You're right.

[Amelia Marino]

We can do both.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

What do you. Okay, so here's my question, because I have been. I was in one band in my life. I was in a ska punk band in high school. I played alto sax.

[Mike Mitchell]

My other brother.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

Brother Darrell. Yes.

[Amelia Marino]

So.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

But I. I was never, like, someone who was like, oh, we're touring. We're doing a bunch of, like, shows or whatever. Like, like, how do you. How do you wrangle? Because you've got, like, celebrity guests who are coming on to sing with you. You got a whole set list of.

[Amelia Marino]

Yeah, there's like. There's like, 10, 11 people on stage.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

Right.

[Amelia Marino]

It's. It's exhausting. We. It was. It was. We. The idea is that we're jamming and having fun and playing these great covers, and it is really super fun. But then we realized, like, oh, now we have to. If we tour and we do these shows, which is so fun, and people have fun at them, and, like, this year, we're doing a whole tribute to Wet Hot American Summer, and we're doing all these, like, clips and fun little bonuses around that.

[Mike Mitchell]

One of the funniest movies of all time. I mean, I know Nick feels the

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

same way for my generation. Like, I feel like that was a big. Like someone in college or someone in high school is like, you gotta watch this movie.

[Amelia Marino]

Yeah.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

Like, that was my introduction to it.

[Amelia Marino]

But what I learned about, you know, in my mid-50s about touring at the lowest level is that it's a lot of. It's tiring. And. And, you know, the band has to figure out all the logistics. It's not like we have a crew.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

Right.

[Amelia Marino]

And so it's sort of weirdly a pain in the ass, but it's also a blast. And, you know, that's why we still do it.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

Look, I certainly don't want to have the awkwardness of arranging something that may not be possible for whatever reason, but Mike Mitchell has a lovely singing voice.

[Mike Mitchell]

Oh, my God. What are you doing?

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

I don't know. You're just like. You're a very. You're a great karaoke singer.

[Amelia Marino]

Mike, will you come sing with the band?

[Mike Mitchell]

I would. I mean, this is an honor. I swear to God. I didn't tell him to do this.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

No, you absolutely did not.

[Amelia Marino]

It's set. It's done.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

Wow.

[Mike Mitchell]

I, I, I, that's, that's very Kind of you.

[Amelia Marino]

You know what song I think you should do?

[Mike Mitchell]

What's that?

[Amelia Marino]

Radar. Love.

[Mike Mitchell]

I love Radar.

[Amelia Marino]

I have a. I have a gut feeling about these things.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

Wow.

[Mike Mitchell]

Speak. Well, I don't, I don't want to spoil anything, but I was just gonna say there's a lot of fun Easter eggs in.

[David Wayne]

In the.

[Mike Mitchell]

In your.

[Amelia Marino]

Yeah, it's a. Say what the movie's about.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

Yeah, go for it.

[Amelia Marino]

This is a. It's a new movie. It's come out tomorrow. It's called Gail Daughtry and the Celebrity Sex Pass. It stars Zoe Deutch as a Midwestern woman who has a celebrity pass agreement with her fiance. He takes it literally, actually happens to meet his celebrity, has sex with her. So our hero Gail goes to la and then a psychic tells her, if you want to save your relationship, you have to even the score and go find your celebrity pass Jon Hamm and have sex with him. And so she goes on this crazy journey and she gathers up other people along the way to go find across this whimsical Hollywood to find Jon Hamm and have sex with him.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

Jon Hamm for, for a certain demographic has got to be like at the top of the celebrity sex pass list.

[Amelia Marino]

100%.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

I just feel, I feel like, just like a. Just kind of defines.

[Amelia Marino]

I mean, look at the guy.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

Ah, yeah, I know.

[Mike Mitchell]

On the scale of doughboys to Jon Hamm, there's a lot that falls in between. But I think that we're talking top and bottom, right?

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

John. John Hamm to real ham.

[Amelia Marino]

We're talking just like people, you know, very good looking people. And then the Hunkasaurus Rex.

[Mike Mitchell]

He is a Hunkasaurus Rex.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

How about that hog, which I know you can't comment on, but allegedly just puts it over the top.

[Amelia Marino]

Can't comment on that.

[Mike Mitchell]

Quite the fossil.

[Amelia Marino]

You asked a question about it though, and I can't remember what it was. Doesn't matter.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

No. Mitch was asking the question about Easter eggs in the movie.

[Amelia Marino]

Oh, yeah. And yes, it's a very funny, silly, great, enjoyable comedy. And then there's a whole layer of little Easter eggs that you might see the first or second or third time. And there's a lot of. If you've seen anything I've done in the past, there's just a lot of little details and fun things in the background and stuff like that.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

Did you ever. Speaking of Easter eggs in the literal sense, did you ever, like, dip Easter eggs? Did you ever do that with like growing up or with your family?

[Amelia Marino]

I'm sure at some Point. I did. I mean, I'm a Jew, but you know, you do those things, right? And I've done some Easter egg hunts.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

Yeah, I remember doing Easter egg hunt. I always feel like they weren't real Easter eggs. They weren't real eggs.

[Amelia Marino]

You say it too fast though. It's Easter egg hunts.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

Easter egg hunts.

[Amelia Marino]

And then as a parent, I've hidden some Easter eggs.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

Oh, that's fun.

[Amelia Marino]

Yeah.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

Do you do like the real eggs?

[Amelia Marino]

When we're setting up for the Easter egg hunts,

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

with the Easter egg hunts, are you doing a. Do you do a little plastic guys or do you do the actual one ones?

[Amelia Marino]

Well, you can do a hard boiled egg.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

Hard boiled egg.

[Amelia Marino]

So it doesn't break or. But sometimes they just. Yeah, the plastic.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

Yeah. I just feel like the plastic is what I encountered and they usually had a little prize inside.

[Amelia Marino]

Is this. You're like, I do not want to talk about this guy's movie.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

No, I just heard Easter eggs. I feel like we gotta dig into it.

[Mike Mitchell]

I'm shocked by this too. How many times did you dip eggs?

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

I feel like it was every year.

[Mike Mitchell]

Really?

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

Dipping them eggs.

[David Wayne]

I did it every year.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

Yeah.

[Mike Mitchell]

I was like, I did it like a couple times. I think we all got. Got tired of it.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

We were just a big Easter family. That was a big event.

[Amelia Marino]

It was fun to dip. You dip it part of the way and then gets colored in one way and then you dip it. Or is that something else? Tie dying. Okay.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

I mentioned. I told the story of my bad kid thing I did once is that I was. Had a sleepover at a friend's house the night before Easter. I know, Pretty cool.

[Mike Mitchell]

The night before Easter.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

The night before Easter, I was asleep over at my friend's house.

[Mike Mitchell]

Weird. What do. Weird scheduling.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

Look, it's how it worked out. And so the mom was Saturday into Easter Sunday. Easter Sunday. The mom was going to have Easter. Like was like put out your Easter baskets. So there were a few of us sleeping over and I had the idea of making up some extra kids. So we get extra baskets because we had a basket. We got to write our name on it.

[Amelia Marino]

That's very clever.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

Yeah. So I made up two additional kids and these surplus kids got a bunch more candy. And then afterwards the mom was asking like, like who were Jason and Tyrone? Like, like it was just like two made up guys.

[Mike Mitchell]

That's.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

That's worked out pretty good.

[Mike Mitchell]

That's.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

What a scheme.

[Mike Mitchell]

You're a little Easter egg cunt.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

So. So wait.

[Amelia Marino]

So good bookend.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

Because the notion of celebrity Sex pass. Like, I feel like that's. I don't know if I feel like the, I don't know if the Farrelly brothers film hall pass is, like, what popularized it, I feel like. But it's. The thing is it's always existed, and it's a thing that Mitch has certainly encountered where people have just said we had. We started filtering our questions at Q and A's because people were just going up and saying, mitch is my celebrity sex pass. Fast.

[Mike Mitchell]

You gotta say to me in per. And it's never worked out for me. I just hear about these things and then I don't. Never, I never. I don't know who these people are.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

And more often, they're mostly supermodels. I mean, if it's Doughboy's fan's wife. Striking, shockingly attractive woman.

[Mike Mitchell]

Yeah.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

Married to a, a, A little troll man.

[Mike Mitchell]

That's. We love. But who we love.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

We love our little troll man. God bless you.

[Mike Mitchell]

And I will your wife if you ask me to. I'm very happy to do it. You can snarl at me from the corner or whatever the hell you eat. Rocks. Yeah, whatever turns you on, whatever you're into. I, I, I've heard about these. I gotta get in that, that Doughboys email, I guess.

[David Wayne]

Type in hall pass and you'll just get hundreds of emails. We got a lot of DMS and stuff. You'd be, you'd be shocked.

[Amelia Marino]

I would not be shocked. Look at these guys.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

Okay, no Jon Hamm, but I'll take it.

[David Wayne]

It.

[Mike Mitchell]

Yeah, I'd say you're no Jon Ham.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

Does that. Wait, do, like people? Are, Are people creepy?

[Amelia Marino]

What?

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

What is it?

[David Wayne]

Because I know they'll send in a question and they'll be like, P.S. mitch is my hall pass, or Weger's my hall pass.

[Amelia Marino]

Yeah, that's, that's nice. Just like every celebrity hall pass sex pass thing, they don't really mean it.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

They don't really mean it.

[Amelia Marino]

They're not saying, like, if Mitch wrote back and said, great, meet me at this time at this hotel room, they would be like, ew, Yeah, I don't know. Or see you there. That's what I would say.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

I think you gotta reach out to the husband because I feel like there's very often some sort of layer of hot wifing involved. Some sort of cuckold fetish.

[Mike Mitchell]

We just need to, we need to, we need to. Like, I need to take a picture with my bicep and I should just sign it to everyone who does that. We need to Send them out like little nice gifts or something like that.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

What? What? You should sign your bicep. What are you talking about?

[Amelia Marino]

I don't know. He lost me.

[Mike Mitchell]

I'm saying send out little pictures that I sign for everyone who says on their hall pass, you.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

Of you flexing and then you s. You signed your name.

[Mike Mitchell]

I thought that was clasher than sending a hog pic or something.

[Amelia Marino]

Calendar.

[Mike Mitchell]

A calendar is a great idea.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

Our.

[Mike Mitchell]

Our buddy Stavros Halus does a sexy calendar every year.

[Amelia Marino]

And it's very funny.

[Mike Mitchell]

He's very funny.

[Amelia Marino]

I worked with him on something.

[Mike Mitchell]

He's a super funny guy.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

Have you ever gotten like or. Or has anyone in your orbit ever been like, oh, I got the celebrity sex pass thing that like, like someone like kind of was like, said that to me or found out indirectly that I was someone's celebrity sex pass.

[Amelia Marino]

I mean, it's really not something that. That I've ever thought much about or talked much about until we made this movie. It was more just like an idea.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

Yeah, sure.

[Mike Mitchell]

I think it just is an idea.

[Amelia Marino]

Well, part of the point of the mo. Of our story in the movie is that it is just a silly thing to talk about. It's not really a meaningful thing. And you're not supposed to take it literally. No, nor does anyone. And then in our movie, the guy does take it literally. And that's. That's what sets off this funny chain of events.

[Mike Mitchell]

In the 1950s, it wasn't like, Frank Sinatra is my hall pass. Frank Sinatra was just these people's wives.

[Amelia Marino]

It was everyone's. Hopass. It was unspoken.

[Mike Mitchell]

Yes. Yeah, he was just doing it. There's nobody said. There's no. I think there is no real celebrity, you know, sex pack.

[Amelia Marino]

But I'm sure in the 50s, wives said to their husbands, if. If ever Frank Sinatra wanted to come over here and fuck me, I would have to do it. It.

[Mike Mitchell]

Yeah, I. I believe that that is probably true.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

Especially, you know, if what was said by one of his lovers, it holds water, which is that, you know, with. With. With apologies to. To John Ham for bringing this topic up again, but the. The Frank Sinatra weighed 110 pounds. Or no, 117 pounds. And 10 of those pounds were cock. Because they. He was like such a. He was a small man, but famously well endowed.

[Amelia Marino]

Don't get me started on Milton Burl.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

Milton Berle. Yeah, legendary.

[Mike Mitchell]

Did you ever meet him ever?

[Amelia Marino]

No, I didn't.

[Mike Mitchell]

No.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

Uncle Milty.

[Mike Mitchell]

Uncle Milty.

[Amelia Marino]

I'm not that old. I mean, technically I could have when I Was like.

[Mike Mitchell]

I was gonna say. I didn't know. He was. He was. He was. He was alive into the 2000s, right? Or. No, no, he died a long time.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

I know he died a while ago.

[Amelia Marino]

I think he was. He was around. We overlapped in life. Yes.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

Okay.

[Mike Mitchell]

All right. Sorry.

[Amelia Marino]

I was a child, I think when

[Mike Mitchell]

he died, I thought that maybe he was still in Hollywood 2002.

[Amelia Marino]

But he was. Okay. No, I haven't met him.

[Mike Mitchell]

Yeah.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

I would not have thought that Milton berle knew about 9 11.

[Mike Mitchell]

He knew.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

He knew.

[Mike Mitchell]

And it sounds like that was it for him.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

Happened very late in his life.

[Amelia Marino]

Yeah.

[Mike Mitchell]

Yeah.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

Wow.

[Amelia Marino]

Maybe he was in the tower.

[Mike Mitchell]

Very. A very delayed death. Uncle Milty was the last life lost from. From 9 11. Where is he buried? Uncle Milty?

[Amelia Marino]

I'm gonna guess.

[David Wayne]

Okay, I got it. I got it. Are you. What? You're gonna guess, L.A. he is buried in Culver City, California.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

Wow.

[Amelia Marino]

So close.

[Mike Mitchell]

Culver's right down.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

Don't doux me.

[David Wayne]

Hillside Memorial.

[Mike Mitchell]

I just said right down near you. That's not that you're on the west side.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

Yeah, it's a part of. It's proximal to the west side of la, where I think that the three

[Amelia Marino]

of us have to go down there, visit the grave. This will be great content.

[Mike Mitchell]

And steal it.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

Let's exhume that corpse and steal it. And let's see that bad boy for ourselves. Let's see. Let's see how much. Let's see how much bone is in that boner.

[Mike Mitchell]

Epi. It hasn't decomposed all the way.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

Yeah,

[Mike Mitchell]

you can leave it anytime. We're sorry.

[Amelia Marino]

No, I'm probably just gonna take off.

[Mike Mitchell]

We.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

So we're talking, you know, we're a chain restaurant podcast, but. But as far as we're talking about things that could. We could be discussed on the podcast that we're not doing today, but I think we should touch on Jewish delis. Like. Like what? Yeah, I'm curious.

[Amelia Marino]

What.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

What do you look for in a deli?

[Mike Mitchell]

This is we. You. You mentioned that you maybe want to do a Jewish deli, and we were talking about this outside of the Grove after. After your movie, and I said, I'm down to do it.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

I was down to do it too.

[Mike Mitchell]

I said. I said, you know, the tricky part is this guy. But I feel so bad that we've downgraded from Jewish tellies to Panera. That's what you get instead is Panera.

[Amelia Marino]

That was what they were like. Yeah, we'll think about it. We don't know. And then the next call I get is, we're gonna do Panera. I was like, oh, okay, sure.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

I think there was a. Don't blame me.

[Mike Mitchell]

You want to do these sandwich stuffers?

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

I pitch, I pitched doing a deli. I just said like, like, you know, we gotta pick one. And then there was no, like, you know, like, if you're asking me to do all the legwork and figure out

[Amelia Marino]

the right one is what's past is past. We're here today. We. The decision was made. We don't need to, you know, re. Litigate it.

[Mike Mitchell]

Yeah, it's his fault.

[Amelia Marino]

Yeah, I know.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

What if you were going to pick a deli to cover in the, in the greater LA area, Like, we're going to go to this deli, we're going to have a good or bad experience or come back here and talk about it, what would it have been?

[Amelia Marino]

Well, there's two that come to mind. Yeah. The first one is this brand new one called Mish, which just opened on La Brea, which is like this incredibly cool, modern, but retro Jewish deli that they cure their own corned beef and they make their own pastrami right there. They brine their own pickles and they do all the traditional Jewish ethnic foods that you think of in a classic Jewish deli, like in New York and la. And it's a huge space and it's really, you know, it's just a cool elevated deli situation. And I went there one time and it was incredible.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

This isn't the Phil Rosenthal one, right?

[Amelia Marino]

No, that's called something. And I've been there a couple times and it's great. On Larchmont.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

Wow.

[Amelia Marino]

Max and Helen's maybe?

[Mike Mitchell]

Oh, yeah, Yeah, I believe so.

[Amelia Marino]

Yeah. And that one, when that opened, I felt like it was too much hype and it was like an hour wait, you know, sometimes four hours wait to get in there. And it's like overpriced, blah, blah. But then I actually went there and it's not that overpriced and it's actually so, so good that it is. I like it a lot.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

Wow.

[Mike Mitchell]

Jewish delis. I mean, there can be. It can be priced over then you're getting such huge portions. I feel like that sometimes.

[Amelia Marino]

Well, yeah, if you go to like a place like Langers.

[Mike Mitchell]

Yeah.

[Amelia Marino]

Which is the other one, you know, the classic old, you know, the only Jewish deli that over for decades was comparable to, they say, to the New York ones, which I agree. And then of course, Cantors is the

[Mike Mitchell]

other class I do love cantors. We were talking about cantors that night too because we were trying to figure out what would be the good late night food place to go to.

[Amelia Marino]

Yeah.

[Mike Mitchell]

And in la now that's a little bit of an issue because things. It just is not what it was like pre Covid. I think that's about this before.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

I think that's become a national issue. Certainly when we're on the road and maybe you've experienced anything. I'm not sure what time your. Your shows wrap if you ever have to to get a late meal. But like with the. There's. There's a paucity of options. We've def. We've had shows where we like we finish show and the best option was McDonald's on the road.

[Mike Mitchell]

Yeah.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

Which I. Hey, I get nothing wrong with McDonald's but I'm just like sometimes you want to go sit down a place and have a late night meal.

[Mike Mitchell]

New York is kind of back. But then there are places even in New York I think that used to be open 24 hours. I just don't do it anymore.

[Amelia Marino]

I was just in New York with my son and it was late at night. He wanted ice cream or like a snack. And it was not as easy to find as it used to be when I lived there before.

[David Wayne]

Yeah.

[Mike Mitchell]

Yeah.

[Amelia Marino]

Wow.

[Mike Mitchell]

Cats deli. Which maybe was 24 hours at one point. I don't know if that has changed but Cats is to me has always been the gold standard and now it has be become a bit of a tick tock kind of like it's so.

[Amelia Marino]

Well, any place that's any good becomes kind of tik toky. Which is unfortunate but. But you know, anyway. But yeah.

[Mike Mitchell]

That was the only time I ever waited in a line. Was it? It was his last visit and I've been going for whatever however many 20 years or something at this point.

[Amelia Marino]

Have you been at Langer's?

[Mike Mitchell]

We've never done Langers.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

Never done Langers. Can you give us some context for Langers for people who've never been there before?

[Amelia Marino]

So Langer's is near MacArthur Park I think and it's.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

Which is not like. Unfortunately it should be a lovely park but it's currently a lawless open air drug market.

[Mike Mitchell]

Thanks a lot, Karen Barrett.

[Amelia Marino]

But this is. Yeah, it probably once was a Jewish neighborhood. Now no longer. But this one place, it's a very large restaurant. It's been there for decades and decades.

[Mike Mitchell]

I don't know.

[Amelia Marino]

I don't know when it opened but family owned and it's Just like a legendary landmark and it's just seeped in history. And they have their famous pastrami and their famous corned beef, and it's like they massive portions and the milkshakes and all the other things that go with it. And it's the fries. Whatever. And it's really, really good.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

They have like, they do the thick cut pastrami.

[Amelia Marino]

Yeah.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

And which is. Which is great. And then they have. I forget which number it is, but there's like 1 17. I think it's the number 17.

[David Wayne]

Right.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

Which is like kind of like signature sandwich on their menu that everyone says to get. And then you get it. Oh, wow. This lives up to the hype, which isn't always the case for things.

[Amelia Marino]

Yeah. And you end up, like, bringing a ton home with you.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

Yeah.

[Amelia Marino]

Because it's so much food.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

Langers is great. We could have done Langers.

[Mike Mitchell]

Well, what the fuck?

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

No one pitched Langers. I didn't know that's what we were talking about. I would have done Langers.

[Mike Mitchell]

You do realize you rule doughboys with an iron fist.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

That's right.

[David Wayne]

True.

[Amelia Marino]

You should do Mish, though. This is the new. I would love to do, like, newsworthy. Yeah. And do them all. I'll come back.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

Okay, great.

[Mike Mitchell]

Is there. Is there. Is. Are there Jewish deli chains? That's.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

That's the issue. We're talking about this from a chain restaurant podcast, and that's a thing that people do sometimes yell at us about. No, I'm just saying. I'm saying, like, like, people are like, like, like, like that.

[Amelia Marino]

That.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

That one's not in la. That one or that one's only in la. I live in Iowa, where you should go to a chain that.

[Amelia Marino]

I can go to chains, though. The only ones that I can think of are crappy, like Noah's bagels.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

You know, Noah's bagels, which we've covered. And Noah's bagels, I think is fine.

[Amelia Marino]

Not really a deli and not really anything special.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

No.

[Amelia Marino]

For sure. So, yeah. I don't know. I can't think of any myself.

[Mike Mitchell]

Noah's bagels, though. Not bad. You know, what a fun onset. I feel like I see Noah's bagels on set quite a lot.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

We should talk about this topic because Amelia was on, as we mentioned, has a. Has a. Has a. As a small role in. Gail Daughtry was on set for one of the days. And speaking of roles of a different sort, said the catering was notable.

[David Wayne]

Yeah. So I was on set for one day and something that stuck out to Me was how good the food was.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

Wow.

[Amelia Marino]

Well, I appreciate the compliment. I made the food. So I got up at 4 in the morning to cook for a couple hours before we start shooting.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

Wow.

[Amelia Marino]

No, I don't. I don't even remember the food.

[David Wayne]

But, yeah, I. I took a picture of the menu that day. Meatloaf with mushroom and gravy, fried chicken, blackened catfish with tartar sauce.

[Amelia Marino]

Oh, yeah, yeah.

[David Wayne]

Farfalla pasta.

[Amelia Marino]

So our producer, like, line producer, Franny, she always gets that really good caterer. She tries to, you know, even on a very low budget film like ours, she makes sure that everyone's well fed, which is important. Yep.

[Mike Mitchell]

And she heard there was a doughboy that was gonna be there that day.

[David Wayne]

It seems like, no, she didn't know I was gonna be there. I bumped into her for the first time in like a decade. I was like, oh, Franny, hey, I've picked you up.

[Amelia Marino]

People ask me advice sometimes, and they're like, I have zero money to spend on making my little movie or whatever. And I say, whatever you do, no matter what, feed people well and get a good sound person.

[Mike Mitchell]

That's great, great advice.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

Yeah, that is great advice.

[Mike Mitchell]

And we got a great sound person here today. And one who's not here too.

[Amelia Marino]

And everyone's been fed.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

Everyone has been fed.

[Mike Mitchell]

Have they been fed?

[Amelia Marino]

Well, we'll talk about it.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

Meals. That was. So that was the one day you spent on set?

[David Wayne]

Yes.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

So was that the day, the way you had. Yet another thing that happened that you told. I don't know. If you want to get into it, you don't have to. You told me about this.

[David Wayne]

I texted you guys about this when it happened. Yeah, I blew up the bathroom and.

[Amelia Marino]

What do you mean you had diarrhea?

[David Wayne]

Yeah. And then I leave the bathroom and Zoey Deutch is waiting to go in, and she goes in right in after me. I felt so horrible.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

That is. That is tough when someone's batting cleanup right behind you and you've just. You've just made a mess, but especially with someone you know.

[David Wayne]

Yeah.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

Yeah, that's. That's rough.

[Amelia Marino]

There is a scene clean, and she's so clean.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

Yeah, boy.

[Mike Mitchell]

There's a scene in the movie where she's kind of green, and I think it's probably the day.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

Has a clothespin over her nose.

[Amelia Marino]

You want to hear a quick story related to that?

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

Please.

[Amelia Marino]

One time I went to go see the play Stomp with my parents in New York long time ago. And if you know that play, they're just Stomping around the whole time. And I was feeling sick. And so I left the theater in the middle of Act 1 to go to the bathroom, and I had felt it coming out both ends, and I had to pick. And so I threw up all over the floor of this bathroom in this theater right before intermission. Oh, my God. And filled the toilet also. Jesus Christ. I just was like, like. And then I. So I went up to the, you know, usher or whatever at the theater, and I'm like, look, just letting you know there's a big mess up there. Sorry.

[Mike Mitchell]

That's wild.

[Amelia Marino]

And. Yeah.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

What are you supposed to do?

[David Wayne]

Did you say it was you, or did you say, oh, I just found this?

[Amelia Marino]

I think I might have just been like, I don't know how that just. I saw it, thought I'd let you know.

[Mike Mitchell]

I think that's the way to do it. And you know what? In a way, they'd be like, this person was very helpful to us. And even if it was you, they. They're happy that it was, you know,

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

that it was that they were informed. And also, like, it's just like, what. Yeah. When you got to make that choice, I mean, it's going to do. Choice. What are you going to do?

[Amelia Marino]

And now telltale. Throw up all over my face was

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

the alternative is you. As you puke into the toilet and then you. Your own pants.

[Mike Mitchell]

And that's also.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

That's a different sort of nightmare.

[Mike Mitchell]

Oh, yeah, yeah. That is a different. That is a different sort of nightmare.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

Now if you're at home, what you can do is you can bring it, like, your. Your waste basket over, and you can. You can. Into the toilet while you puke into the waste basket.

[Mike Mitchell]

Freddy never deals with this sort of stuff, too. Freddy Krueger.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

Okay.

[Amelia Marino]

Freddy Krueger. You know, I don't know if you know, we're friends. Freddy Krueger.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

Do you mean. Wait, but is Disney usually.

[Mike Mitchell]

You said a different kind of nightmare. I was just thinking, like, oh, he

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

never, like, got it.

[Mike Mitchell]

He never has you. Like, he never has you worried about, like, shitting or puking.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

Wes Craven's new nightmare is not about a bunch of people having embarrassing bathroom trauma, which is a thing that happens in some nightmares.

[Mike Mitchell]

Though the master of horror would be able to pull that off. I feel like.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

Yeah, of course.

[Mike Mitchell]

This is the worst. I think this is one of the worst, like, human experiences is. Is having what happened.

[Amelia Marino]

I don't know if it ever happens to Bob Dairo.

[Mike Mitchell]

It's happened. It's had to have happened to Dairo. You know, it's happened to Dairo.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

There are times when you. I like the opposite happens and you feel like, man, I just pulled off a bank heist. Like, I remember once I was. I. I was in Vegas and I was. Oh, this was it. This was at our buddy's bachelor party. I was super hungover.

[Mike Mitchell]

You went home early.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

I went home. I did go home early.

[Mike Mitchell]

True.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

I got. I got motion sick on the party bus.

[Amelia Marino]

Yeah.

[Mike Mitchell]

So I got emotion sick on the part in Vegas. And then he got a flight back.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

And then a different sort of nausea is caused by my own behavior, but I was like. I'd been drinking basically the entire day, and I was very hungover. And then the next morning, I was in the Vegas. Like, I was in the lobby bathroom of. Of the hotel, and I was just like, shitting my brains out. Just like fucking. Just like magma just sandblasting the bowl. And. But while I was doing it, I felt the urge to puke.

[Amelia Marino]

Really painting a picture.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

And. And I was able to elegantly like, like, like swivel and then just like puke onto my own diarrhea. But I did not cause any. There was no splash zone or anything. Like, did not cause any sort of mess. I, like, I left it as clean as cleaner. Boy scout. And I was like. I was like, I can't. I pulled it off. You know, I came out and. And I'm. I'm. I'm like a. You know, I'm a Tim Robbins in Shawshank Redemption.

[Amelia Marino]

Can I just say, for the. For the sake of the. The listeners, that that's sort of a west coast shortened lingo nickname you're using for Vegas. You're referring to Las Vegas.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

Las Vegas, the city. Las Vegas, Nevada. Which is like, kind of like a, A. It's. It's a short name.

[Amelia Marino]

Vegas.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

We call it Vegas here. But, you know, it's just because it's like.

[Mike Mitchell]

So you barfed on your diarrhea is what you're saying?

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

Yeah, it was pretty gross.

[Mike Mitchell]

Did you take a picture of it?

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

I mean, if I knew Amelia at the time, I would have.

[David Wayne]

Phone eats first.

[Amelia Marino]

Yeah.

[Mike Mitchell]

I'm picturing your sweatshirt in a way, for our.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

For audio listeners. I have like, this sort of Jackson Pollocky, I guess, sweatshirt.

[Mike Mitchell]

I like it. I think it's a. I think it's a. It's you. You give it. You're giving off like a very sale.

[Amelia Marino]

I liked it until you mentioned the. The puke nature of it.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

It's not the color of. And puke, although White man. I was hanging out with Tim Calpacus, the Sloppy Boys.

[Mike Mitchell]

I know. I couldn't believe you. I didn't. I didn't join you.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

Me and. Me and Tim and Mookie and Eve Anderson at a level. At a lovely time. Lovely little hang. You were in. You were invited.

[Mike Mitchell]

I had. I. I had. I truly had a migraine.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

I believe it. Yeah, of course. Believe you.

[Mike Mitchell]

I got hot tongue pizza, which I thought was really good.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

Oh, that's fun.

[Amelia Marino]

It's. You mentioned the Sloppy Boys. This is the Doughboys. We were both in the Napa Boys.

[Mike Mitchell]

Yes.

[Amelia Marino]

And then this morning at the gym, I was listening to the Pet Shop Boys.

[David Wayne]

How about that?

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

Mitch was in a sketch group called the Birthday Boys as well. Our good friends have the podcast, the Action Boys. Boys are everywhere. Boys are back.

[Mike Mitchell]

The Boys are back in town last summer.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

But Kalpakis brought up we have puke in us all the time.

[Amelia Marino]

No, stop.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

I never thought about it that way. But we're just walking because I think. I understand. I've intellectualized that we have shit in us at all times. But all. But to think that we also have puking us at all times. Because when you're puking, that's coming from somewhere, but that puke's just sitting there.

[Amelia Marino]

Let's not think about.

[Mike Mitchell]

Yeah, let's not. I can't. That's actually after now, after our meal, I don't want to think about it.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

And I found that repulsive. I don't know why that grossed me out so much.

[Amelia Marino]

Me too.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

Really nasty.

[Mike Mitchell]

Yeah. Why. Why are you cursed? Why? It's like the ring curse. You don't have to give it to us as well.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

I don't know.

[Mike Mitchell]

You look very much like you're like a. Like an assistant on a boat or something.

[David Wayne]

Thing.

[Mike Mitchell]

You did mean that as a compliment. You look.

[Amelia Marino]

That's a very nice compliment.

[Mike Mitchell]

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[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

Sam. We're talking Panera today. You worked at a Panera in high school?

[Amelia Marino]

Yep. Yeah, I worked there for about six months. It was kind of a terrible experience.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

I don't know how far I should

[Mike Mitchell]

go into it now.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

But yeah, I would open some days at 5 to get all the bagels out.

[Amelia Marino]

And I would be the soup transfer as well.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

And I haven't had a soup transfer. Yeah, that was a position, kind of. So this is why I haven't been there in like 12 years. I don't want to spoil it now.

[Amelia Marino]

Maybe we don't.

[David Wayne]

We can get into.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

When we start talking soup.

[Mike Mitchell]

Remember, we're full of barf at all times.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

But yeah, it was great.

[Amelia Marino]

It was a great experience.

[Mike Mitchell]

No, tell us.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

It just ruined me on the soups

[Amelia Marino]

because they would come in the bag,

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

bags of soup, basically, when they'd get delivered frozen. And then they'd have the refrigerator ones

[Amelia Marino]

where we'd cut them open and replace

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

the ones on the line. And then at the end of the day, we would just take the leftovers and put them back in those soup bags and they were undated.

[Amelia Marino]

So there'd be bags of soup that

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

we didn't know how.

[Amelia Marino]

That is so nasty. That surprising.

[Mike Mitchell]

I mean, it makes sense.

[Amelia Marino]

But that changed me about their soups forever.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

I like Panera's soups. I would not have not suspected it was like the Olive Garden model of boil in a bag. But of course, course it is just whatever. The cheapest way to do it.

[Mike Mitchell]

When you think about we're all kind of bags of soup in a way,

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

just waiting to puke. Yeah, we are kind of bags.

[Amelia Marino]

I feel like you go into any. I feel like the first time I went into a Panera, I could just feel a gut feeling of this is disgusting. Like, wow. And. And. And I don't think I've ever gone back in.

[Mike Mitchell]

We were. We were saying that it's a place where you. On a past episode, we've said that it's a place where you can break bad news. It's a good place to, like, tell someone that, like, you're. You're. You know, your dad is dying or something.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

Right.

[Amelia Marino]

I also think the name is great.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

Gross.

[Amelia Marino]

Like, I don't know. And also I went. I mean, by the way, I'm not giving away my rating yet because I gave it a fresh look today. But I feel like I've gone in there a couple times, like at airports and stuff, and gone up to the counter and then before I ordered. Like, no, like, no, can't do it.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

Wow, that's.

[Mike Mitchell]

Yeah, that's fair. I think that, that, that, that is. That. You know what? I, I think Panera is fine for when you want to try to eat.

[Amelia Marino]

Eat.

[Mike Mitchell]

I mean, specific things. Eat healthy.

[Amelia Marino]

Ish.

[Mike Mitchell]

Like a, Like a Greek salad. I've always been a fan of the Greek salad and the tomato soup there.

[Amelia Marino]

All right.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

I've told you that I have no quarrels with Panera in the abstract.

[Mike Mitchell]

We like soup.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

We like that old soup that they put back in bags in, in. You know, it. When, when I'm on the road, it's like to me, it's like a reliable place. That is it. It does have the, the thing that you want in a chain, which is consistency. I feel like the locations are predictable in terms of their output. Maybe that has to do with their, their product coming in bags or whatever. But what, like you know what you're going to get.

[Amelia Marino]

I have a question. You guys would be the experts on this. Does. Is there any chain these days that isn't consistent?

[Mike Mitchell]

Yes, yes.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

There's a number of them that are very location dependent.

[Mike Mitchell]

In fact, the chain chains have gotten so bad in the last. Since we started the podcast. It's bad. It's a.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

The.

[Mike Mitchell]

The show's never great anyways. But now the chains are also getting like more evil and the food is sucking more that it's harder to do.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

Yeah, I feel like, I feel like subways are like the Wild West. You can get anything at a subway. And the Wendy's in particular are like this day, like, there's so much locational variance.

[Amelia Marino]

And also now they're all talking about how it's not cheap anymore.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

No, it's not. Yeah.

[Amelia Marino]

McDonald's is super expensive.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

Yeah. Everything. Everything's pricey.

[Mike Mitchell]

Wendy's gone downhill so bad. That's. That's the one we talk about.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

We. We did.

[Mike Mitchell]

They wouldn't. They wouldn't even flinch at the Stomp bathroom. They wouldn't. They wouldn't care. I meant to say it's funny to think of all the Stomp guys going in and slipping with all their stomp.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

That is fun to think about with

[Mike Mitchell]

all their stomach stomp stuff, but just the noise it would make.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

You know they're bringing that into the bathroom.

[Mike Mitchell]

They know they're definitely bringing in the bathroom.

[Amelia Marino]

But imagine being like 10 minutes before you puke and Everywhere. And feeling that feeling you have. And then having to sit and watch a show of a bunch of people stomping their feet repeatedly on the thing. Like, I was like, guys, I gotta. I can't. I'm leaving. This

[Mike Mitchell]

was it. Was it. Was it food poisoning? Do you believe it? Because both. Both ends is.

[Amelia Marino]

I don't know. That's only happened one other time in my life when I actually was at a hotel in Mallorca in Spain. And it happened right as I was to check out.

[Mike Mitchell]

Oh, God.

[Amelia Marino]

And I said to. I called up and I'm like, I can't leave right yet because I just got sick everywhere. And they're like, you have to.

[Mike Mitchell]

That's insane.

[Amelia Marino]

I was like, I'm really sick. They're like, sorry, somebody's coming. And so I like shakily drove my rental car back to the airport and I sat in the airport for many hours until I felt like safe enough to get back on a plane. Cause I had to go to Paris.

[Mike Mitchell]

Oh my God. That's nightmare. I've never had it. I've never. Both ends. I've never had it before. Luckily, that's never happened to me.

[Amelia Marino]

I'm excited for you to have your.

[Mike Mitchell]

It's gonna happen at some point. It will happen at some point.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

Mitch, you mentioned that we like the soups. This was when we had Jason Concepcion, our friend on for croc dough burn f est. Which was a. A soup. Soup forward month.

[Mike Mitchell]

Jesus.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

And we only had the soups there. But we. Which you know, again, as per Sam are not made fresh in house, but they're batched at a central kitchen. But we gave it a. A good fork scores all around.

[Mike Mitchell]

What do we give them?

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

We gave. I g. I get. I went four. Jason went four and a half. You went five.

[Mike Mitchell]

Oh, you.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

But you. You put. You. We're going to put this some in the platinum plate club. It was originally found.

[Mike Mitchell]

We were also strictly doing out of soup.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

We were only doing soups. So that was only the soup ratings.

[Amelia Marino]

I'm not judging.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

There are over 2200 Paneras in the US and Canada. It was. It was founded as the St Louis Bread Company. And I don't remember I this up with the etymology of Panera before. Why. Why it's named that. But it.

[Mike Mitchell]

It.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

It did. It started in Missouri and the salad stuffers are a new thing that they have launched. It's it. I. I don't think this. This promotion works like. I don't think as ltos the salad stuffers have legs. I just I just feel like I was singularly unimpressed with. Basically what they are is they're an existing salad just crammed into a hollowed out, out Panera loaf. A hollowed out baguette.

[Mike Mitchell]

And where, where does, where does the country stand on baguettes at the moment? Where, where is everyone's thumbs up?

[Amelia Marino]

The whole point of a baguette is it's really great bread.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

Yeah. You want, you want a good baguette

[Amelia Marino]

if you go to like a French bakery or something and then you have like a delicious sandwich on a beautiful baguette. Sure. Otherwise nobody wants gross white bread.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

But you go to like a bub and grandma's like a good, like a, you know, like a good local bakery here, you know, and you get a, get a high quality like baguette baked in house. I'm just like, I'll take all that, I'll take all that you got.

[Amelia Marino]

Sure.

[Mike Mitchell]

Yeah, I, I, I'm, I'll take that.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

All that I can beget.

[Mike Mitchell]

I like, I like that Quoting Letterman too. After the, Is that what you're doing? Oh yeah.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

After, after Future Islands, their performance a great. If you've never seen that live television, not live. Whatever we get, you get one. You know what I'm saying? Live to tape, live to tape television.

[Mike Mitchell]

Live to tape television.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

Great moment in live to tape, to tape television.

[Mike Mitchell]

There's been a lot of them.

[Amelia Marino]

I have a coffee table book, great moments in live.

[Mike Mitchell]

I, I feel like in my head French baguette feels so like 80s or 90s to me. Like, and look, I, I'm not saying I don't, I dislike it. I, I do. I'm just saying like it felt like Obama Pond or something. Like it felt like, it felt like

[Amelia Marino]

the, the French baguette was kind of thing thing.

[Mike Mitchell]

I felt like it was flying off in the 80s and 90s. Now I feel like it just feels dated or something. I do, I kind of almost like the stuffers in, in, in a way today. I, I, I, but I don't think that they're good. And I don't

[Amelia Marino]

but I think that yeah, liking something and thinking that it's good are very different. I thought the stuff was for, in theory was all right, like for what it is. I mean if, if you, as for, for like a piece of gross food from a gross restaurant, it was, it wasn't the worst thing. I cause that like it's basically a big salad inside the hollowed out roll and why not? I guess.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

Yeah, but wouldn't you like. Because another way you can get that combination of ingredients is you get a salad and then you get a baguette as your side. And I feel like I'd just rather have that. I feel like that's like, like, why is this superior? I guess it's a handheld, I guess, if you're gonna need it in a moving vehicle.

[Amelia Marino]

But often that is what you are to walk down the street or something, you know?

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

Yeah, sure. I guess that's the only. But I, I, I just, I feel like the, the bread here was particularly low quality, and I wonder if it's because of the, the coring out of the, the, the center pocket that if it's maybe just a little bit less fresh.

[Mike Mitchell]

So my, my whole. So what I was trying to get back to is that I almost like the, that the baguette is kind of shitty. Like, I, I don't have an issue with it. Like, like, I think it's like, I'm also. We've talked about this before. We're so sick of, like, fakasha or.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

And, and like, also has been overplayed.

[Mike Mitchell]

Has been overplayed. That's why I'm like, I'm almost like, it made me appreciate just kind of a shitty baguette. I, I was like, oh, I was kind of okay with it. The thing I wasn't okay with is that I bit into my sandwich and there was a olive with an olive pit in it, and I almost cracked my tooth. That was, that was worse. That was bad.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

This was the Greek salad stuffer with chicken. You got romaine with Greek dressing, grilled chicken, grape tomatoes, feta, sliced cucumbers, red onions, kalamata olives, pepperoncini, and salt and pepper, all in our soft Italian stuffer roll. So it's not even a baguette. They call it an Italian stuff.

[Mike Mitchell]

Okay. It's just Italian bread.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

Yes. One of them olives had a pit in it, and that a stuffer.

[Amelia Marino]

All a sort of couch.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

It sounds like it, it might be.

[Amelia Marino]

Sorry, continue.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

That, that, that, I mean, that's like, that's that. I, I don't want to use the word inexcusable, but that's like, that's a real bad foible. Yeah, that's a real, real rough mistake.

[Mike Mitchell]

It was a. It was. I could have lost a tooth. It was very close.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

Yeah.

[Mike Mitchell]

I'm, I'm going into the dentist tomorrow just by chance. So I would have been perfect timing if I was going to lose a tooth.

[Amelia Marino]

You still don't want to lose a tooth?

[Mike Mitchell]

Yeah.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

I guess.

[Mike Mitchell]

You never Want to lo.

[Amelia Marino]

To have a dentist appointment?

[Mike Mitchell]

Yeah, yeah, that's a good point.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

I. I'm going to the dentist tomorrow.

[Mike Mitchell]

Are you really?

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

Yeah. I had to get my. Because I went to the dentist last week and my night guard. I've just grinded the out of. Are you a grinder?

[Amelia Marino]

Depends on the.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

I. I grind. I grind my teeth at night. I grind the out of them. And so I have like this, this

[Mike Mitchell]

night guard stands at the end of your bed, we've established.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

Yes, yes. Yeah. He is a. He's a menacing presence, but rewards other spirits away. I just. I just chomp into this and it's just like it's been worn down into like a thin layer of. Of whatever the material is. So I had to get a new one. So I'm getting. I'm getting that. That tomorrow.

[Amelia Marino]

Wow.

[Mike Mitchell]

I'm going in for a consultation for my root canal.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

Oh, my God.

[Mike Mitchell]

I might need a root canal. Are they. Is it hard?

[Amelia Marino]

Well, they're classically supposed to be terrible, but I think they're not as bad as they used to be.

[Mike Mitchell]

I got.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

I got one. I thought it was fine.

[Mike Mitchell]

Really?

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

Yeah. I went to. I went to a good root canal.

[Mike Mitchell]

Seems almost like you would like to do that.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

No, I excited for a root canal.

[Mike Mitchell]

You know what was fun is that they use the. The cold. They have like a instrument that's very cold.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

Oh, yeah.

[Mike Mitchell]

And they put it on my tooth and the one that, you know, it was like, yeah, like when they put it on the root canal tooth. I want. I, I said, yeah, you know, maybe

[Amelia Marino]

there's a bespoke, artisan root canal place in Beverly Hills you could check out.

[Mike Mitchell]

I, I, you know, I'm going to Glendale. That's the in. You know.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

Know what?

[Mike Mitchell]

A lot of the chain restaurants are better in Glendale too. And I'm hoping the same is for. For dentistry.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

Look, I had a great place I went to. I could give you the recommendation.

[Mike Mitchell]

You try to give me the recognize.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

You just weren't interested.

[Mike Mitchell]

Toonsy recommend I have a doctor. My dentist is Dr. Toonsy. He's a great. He's the best dentist in the world.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

Mitch just happens to go to the best dentist in the world.

[Amelia Marino]

How could anyone ever know that? Because you'd have to go to every dentist.

[Mike Mitchell]

I, you know, I don't even have to see the other ones. Tunsy's so good. Toonsy is fantastic.

[Amelia Marino]

The chat you've probably. There's no chance you've been to more than 10 dentists in your entire life?

[Mike Mitchell]

I think I've been to maybe two or three.

[Amelia Marino]

So you're like. But he's the best in the entire world. Out of millions of toons.

[Mike Mitchell]

He's up there and his last name is. It's, it sounds like a cartoon.

[Amelia Marino]

That is funny.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

It does help a lot. That's fun.

[Mike Mitchell]

He's always done right by. I like Toonsy quite a bit.

[Amelia Marino]

You know, it's great. In Glendale they have the Americana mall and in there they have a movie theater that's playing Gail Daughtry in the.

[Mike Mitchell]

That is true.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

How about that?

[Amelia Marino]

Yeah. That's all.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

That's the thing people could do tonight.

[Amelia Marino]

Even you could go. Tonight.

[Mike Mitchell]

You go to Panera and then. Well, you don't have to.

[Amelia Marino]

If you want.

[Mike Mitchell]

If you wanted to.

[Amelia Marino]

Yeah.

[Mike Mitchell]

And then go to. You should go.

[Amelia Marino]

What I love about doughboys, it's like we tell you what we found, what we thought, and then you make your own choice.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

Yeah. Make your own. I think I would. I might go to that Americana, the Cheesecake Factory. If you can get a table places a zoo. But that's, that's a good Cheesecake Factory. And then you also get the Nordstrom restaurant there, which people, people forget about the Nordstrom restaurants. A little sleepier. But if you want to off the beaten people bath.

[Mike Mitchell]

If you, if you, if you want a Wayne double feature, go to Barnes and Nobles. Grab yourself Napa Boys on Blu Ray or dvd.

[Amelia Marino]

I, I will buy mine right now.

[Mike Mitchell]

Yeah, it's on. It's on. It's in the, it's in that Americana Barnes Noble. Oh, by the way, the psychic. Carrie. Kenny. Carrie. Kenny Silver plays the psychic.

[Amelia Marino]

Yes.

[Mike Mitchell]

And I was on the show Love with, with Carrie and she, I, I, I love her. She's the best.

[Amelia Marino]

Incredible.

[Mike Mitchell]

She's was said the nicest thing to me ever on a film set anyone's ever said to me. I'm not gonna, I won't share it, but.

[Amelia Marino]

Wow.

[Mike Mitchell]

It was a very.

[Amelia Marino]

Well, you really set it up.

[Mike Mitchell]

I know, but I now I don't

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

want to like, it's like a personal thing. You know what?

[Amelia Marino]

That's fair.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

Fine. Totally fair.

[Mike Mitchell]

It was, it was very. I, I just did a scene and then she was like. And it was kind of like, you got what it takes, kid sort of comment. Oh, that's very, very, very sweet.

[Amelia Marino]

She's like a sister me, I've known her since 1988.

[Mike Mitchell]

Wow. I love, I loved her and, and she was wrong with what she said, but it was very kind. It was very, very kind of her.

[Amelia Marino]

To say wrong and kind.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

David, you got the ultimate garden steak salad stuffer.

[Amelia Marino]

I sure did.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

Which is greens, arugula, a garden herb dressing, sliced steak and sweet potatoes, grilled broccoli, roasted corn, etc. Etc. This is also. You also got a side of Mac and cheese, which. I didn't have any Mac and cheese this time. I've had their Mac and cheese a number of times. Mitch, you had some as well.

[Mike Mitchell]

I. I got some left.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

I got.

[Mike Mitchell]

I kind of ordered. I got some. A couple soups that I'm taking home in a Mac and cheese, but I wanted bites of them. I. I should have given you guys bites. I. I would have offered you.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

I was only doing the stuff.

[Amelia Marino]

I had a whole thing. I love the Mac and cheese was. I was hungry. It hit the spot for me. It's exactly what you expect.

[Mike Mitchell]

Oh, you got some. Okay.

[Amelia Marino]

I did. I had a whole thing of it. And it's what. Exactly what you'd expect from a place like Panera in. In not a bad way. And it was great.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

No, I. I agree. I like their Mac and cheese.

[Mike Mitchell]

You said you're saying doughboys items. This is. You know, we've talked about doing doughboys items for a long time. We're like, we shouldn't do chain rest. We shouldn't say.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

We called doughboys items.

[Mike Mitchell]

It might not be called doughboys items.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

It's a bad title.

[Mike Mitchell]

It's. But maybe it's a bad title. But he was like, I'm just gonna do items. And I was like, all right, well, I'm gonna get a few soups. I'm gonna. I'm gonna save some of them for tomorrow.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

You got, like, eight things.

[Mike Mitchell]

Hold on a second. I didn't get eight fucking things. I got one stuffer, one Italian stuffer, which sounds like one of your uncles. Italian stuffer. Scorpion.

[David Wayne]

The.

[Mike Mitchell]

The Marino family tree. I. I got one Italian stuffer, and I got. I got two soups and a Mac and cheese, and I. And one soup was with the idea for later, and then the other one I just wanted to taste, which is the broccoli cheddar soup, and it is really good. I'm not thrilled to hear that. It might have been from an old bag.

[Amelia Marino]

It might not have been. Maybe they changed the way.

[Mike Mitchell]

Well, I.

[Amelia Marino]

Can I just talk about what I ordered, please? Because the. The salad in the thing was. I like the ingredients, and I kind of like the taste, but. But especially now that you mentioned it did feel like it might have been taken in and out of a few bags. It was sort of like all mushed. Sort of felt like leftovery and mushed together a little bit.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

Right?

[Mike Mitchell]

Yeah.

[Amelia Marino]

And then that shitty bread. It was just like if that. If that was the same salad, maybe a new batch of it. And then in a really nice piece of hollowed out bread. Great.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

If I was going to be charitable to Panera, this is a play. You know, we were eating in the Head Gum kitchen. Just this place just swarming with workers. Just, you know, we had. We were able to squeeze a little bit of a. Of a place but just you know, like the, the day to day of just like how much work that goes on at the Head Gum offices was. We were just trying not to intrude on them. But we were over there.

[Amelia Marino]

We're.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

We had a small sign.

[Mike Mitchell]

The Jackass podcast. People cheering.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

You know, they were having fun and they should be. But we were. We were over there and we were. We had a little corner of the table.

[Amelia Marino]

Table.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

We were eating it. This. This really suffers from travel because by the nature of it, you can't mix the dressing when you receive it. It's been sitting in that like. Like lemon herb or whatever. The.

[Mike Mitchell]

You got a bunch of Head Gums employees with their. With their lunch pails. Like they're going to work their hard hats.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

Yeah.

[Mike Mitchell]

Like they're building a building in New York in the 19 early 1900s.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

It's a living. But they're. They're hard at work.

[Mike Mitchell]

That's. That's.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

That's how you. That's how this. The sausage is made.

[Amelia Marino]

Anyway, I've been wanting to. Yes. And this bit, but I'm. I'm having trouble.

[Mike Mitchell]

You're baffled by it.

[Amelia Marino]

I thought. I'm just waiting till the next one.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

I think part of your confusion may be that what you described as a bit as the reality that we in sure live in. So we were just like, you know, just. Just describing things that are. We experience normally. Anyway. The.

[Mike Mitchell]

Maybe he doesn't want to get involved with what seems to be a clear grievance from one of the hosts of the show.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

They do have a new photograph of their corporate retreat. That's fun. Their trip to Miami.

[Mike Mitchell]

Let's not get us kicked out of the store. Who's getting kicked out? I'm joking. It's fine. Moving on. I don't even want to fucking. I don't want to take part in this bit either.

[Amelia Marino]

Fuck Headgum.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

I got the Caesar salad stuffer and the strawberry poppy seed chicken salad stuffer. Oh wait, the strawberries were out of sweet stock. That's right. No more strawberries in. In strawberry season, I guess. There was a run of the strawberry poppy seed salad. So instead I get the Fuji apple chicken salad stuffer.

[Mike Mitchell]

And you got two stuffers. I got a couple.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

And by the way, I get two stuffers.

[Mike Mitchell]

I, I, I got a little dessert for us to split, and I saw you taking bites of that dessert, so

[Amelia Marino]

I didn't get any. Oh, yeah.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

Wait, what was the dessert?

[Mike Mitchell]

The, the cranberry bread or whatever.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

Cranberry orange slice. Oh, yeah, yeah.

[Amelia Marino]

Terrible.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

It's pretty bad.

[David Wayne]

Yeah.

[Mike Mitchell]

Oh, I thought you guys were saying it was good, and then I ate it, and I was like, yeah, it is pretty good. But you guys didn't like it.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

No, no.

[Mike Mitchell]

Oh, all right. Yeah. It wasn't that good. I think you were right.

[Amelia Marino]

It was like. It comes out of a bag, too.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

The Fuji apple chicken salad stuffer, which has the, Again, that combo of greens and romaine balsamic vinaigrette, which wasn't bad. Grilled chicken, grape tomatoes, red onions, toasted pecan pieces, feta and apple chips. It was just aggressively sweet. And I, I don't, I don't know. There's, I think it was just the presence of too many apple chips and maybe the pecans. I didn't think candied, but maybe they were. It was just adding, like, a lot, a really sugary quality to it. Maybe it was the dressing, honestly.

[Amelia Marino]

So a good sign of a bad salad is when there's too many things that it's like, leave it. If it's good ingredients, leave it alone.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

Too. Too many components. Unka pachka and, but, but, you know, the, the one that had fewer ingredients was the Caesar salad stuffer, which I thought was pretty bad as well. It was just like Caesar dressing with shaved parmesan and, and croissant croutons. So we're getting bread inside of bread. Bread. I don't know.

[Mike Mitchell]

I decided bread can be fun.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

It can be fun, but it was not fun in this context. Also, they were out of the fruit cup, which I ordered as my side.

[Amelia Marino]

Also, a Caesar dressing is not like you. A good Caesar dressing is not the easiest thing to pull off.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

That's true. Yeah.

[Mike Mitchell]

I also is. Is the sides of. That's. But you get French baguette on the side with soups. Right? It's. And so it's an Italian loaf that these stuffers are in. So that does explain why the bread is a little bit different, maybe bad.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

When I make the, like, like, all. Speaking of Caesar Dressing. Just go back to that for one second. Like that's a thing though. Like when I, when we have a Caesar salad, like at home, I'll just make the dressing from scratch because it's not that many components, but it makes a huge difference. And so, you know, you just whip up that bad boy. Like if you're making it in house, it's, it's a different thing. But again, this, all this stuff is arriving in, in, in bottles or bags. It's just not going to be that, that same level of quality. I, I just, I don't know. I, I was not impressed by this lto one bit. I just don't think it works and I don't think it's long world. The, the, the, the dessert I thought was not great. Mitch, you also got the, the tomato soup, the, the cherry lime fresca.

[Mike Mitchell]

And then here it is, the cherry lime fresca.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

The Asiago croissant twist.

[Mike Mitchell]

That was for everybody. I'm not, I didn't, we talked about.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

And the bowl of broccoli cheddar soup.

[Mike Mitchell]

A little bit.

[Amelia Marino]

I tried theago croissant twist.

[Mike Mitchell]

Yeah.

[Amelia Marino]

Also shitty.

[Mike Mitchell]

They were not great.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

No, I think it was maybe my favorite thing.

[Mike Mitchell]

It's actually okay. This, this cherry lime fresco. You want to take us of it?

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

Okay, sure. Mitch is passing his beverage to me. I can't quite reach it. There we go. Kind of an awkward angle. Does it have caffeine in it?

[Mike Mitchell]

I don't know.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

This is, this sucks. I don't like it at all.

[Mike Mitchell]

Oh, you don't like it at all? No.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

Oh, well. But it might be. There's just too much melted ice. It's just, it's watered down.

[Mike Mitchell]

Try it. I liked it.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

I'm really not a fan.

[Mike Mitchell]

I'm hanta free, by the way.

[Amelia Marino]

Jesus. It tastes like, like, like stale high sea or something.

[Mike Mitchell]

Yeah, yeah.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

It tastes like really diluted with a

[Amelia Marino]

little, little bit of medicine.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

Yeah, really diluted cranberry sauce. Like juice with a little NyQuil.

[Mike Mitchell]

Oh, I didn't, I, I, I, I, I, I didn't hate it. I didn't hate it like you guys. I, I don't think it's good, but I don't hate it.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

So, Sam, you hadn't had Panera in a long time.

[Amelia Marino]

Probably 12 years or. I have had it since I worked

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

there, but it's been a while. You got a bacon turkey Bravo, no cheese. Was this a regular order of yours or.

[Mike Mitchell]

You said the bra. You came in there and you said the Bravo. You, you seem like It. It was like seeing an old friend.

[Amelia Marino]

Cuz that's what I would get because

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

we get like lunch or, you know, get 60 off for lunch and I typically get that one. So I wanted to.

[Amelia Marino]

They don't just give you the food.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

No, they don't.

[Amelia Marino]

When you're eating there.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

No.

[Amelia Marino]

Minimum wage in Chicago is like $7.

[Mike Mitchell]

Jesus.

[Amelia Marino]

Yeah, that's.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

But I wanted to try it again to see what if it was similar

[Amelia Marino]

to what I remembered. Work all day in our kitchen. You get a discount on the food. On the crappy food.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

I thought. I thought it was subpar for sure. And the bread was way different.

[Amelia Marino]

Different.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

Oh, so it was. It was not a bite of a memory downhill. You notice all the difference.

[Amelia Marino]

It was very different. The bread used to be a lot different. More fluffy and like brioche style.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

Not that it was even that great. Then I did notice that the tomatoes are really good this time, so. Okay, that can be really rough.

[Amelia Marino]

You know what? Appreciate your fairness and saying what is good.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

Yeah, yeah, there are good tomatoes on the sandwich.

[Mike Mitchell]

That was.

[Amelia Marino]

That was good part about it.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

Emilia, you had the. You pick two of a Frontega chicken panini and a French onion soup. By the way, the single panini. Panini know.

[David Wayne]

Yes. Also, doesn't pan mean bread? Which is where Panera would come from, I would assume.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

Yeah. But I don't know if there's like the Panera. If it's like a portmanteau. I don't know what exactly what it means. Like specifically.

[David Wayne]

Maybe it's like the era of bread.

[Amelia Marino]

Feels like it'd be so easy for somebody to look up.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

It's probably the era of bread.

[Amelia Marino]

A place where bread is stored.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

A place where bread is stored.

[Mike Mitchell]

That's.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

Wait, what a Panera is? A place where bread is stored.

[David Wayne]

Yeah, that's usually what I get every time I go. And usually it hits. This time it missed. It was really.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

Wow.

[David Wayne]

It was soggy. And I didn't tell anyone this, but I found a hair in my sandwich. When I pulled it apart, I ripped it apart and I just saw a long hair.

[Amelia Marino]

Well, I just want to be extra hair. Disgusting. The hair. That's disgusting. That might have been something I introduced to the proceedings while we were in the kitchen. It doesn't matter. But commenting on the sogginess thing though, just for the record, how long was it from pickup to when we ate it from?

[David Wayne]

Well, it was delivered and it was sitting there for maybe 10 minutes before.

[Amelia Marino]

Okay, good to know. Just, you know, I like the.

[David Wayne]

To know the data yeah, no, that's important information to know. It's. Usually I try to time it out so it gets here right at 4:30. Came a little bit early.

[Amelia Marino]

Yeah.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

I feel like you'd rather find a longer hair, right?

[David Wayne]

It was long. Yeah.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

That to me is like.

[David Wayne]

It's short and wired.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

No, that's.

[Mike Mitchell]

Yeah, it could. It could be. I mean, that's not gonna make you happy, but I was gonna say it could be my beard hair. If it's short and wiry like it. It could be a beard hair. It doesn't necessarily have to be a pube, really.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

So someone in the kitchen with. With short, curly hair could be. You know, I mean, that could be.

[Mike Mitchell]

I don't think that pubes are gonna be falling into your meal.

[David Wayne]

It was dark, though. And honestly, it was probably mine. I got a latte as well.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

Okay.

[David Wayne]

Really good. I will say.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

Wow, cool.

[Mike Mitchell]

There was a restaurant. We. I think we blurted every time. But when I told you that I ate creamed corn and then there was a long hair and I. That's disgusting. I'm sorry. But I remember pulling the hair out of my throat.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

It's awful.

[Amelia Marino]

Do you guys.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

Was that your meatball story?

[David Wayne]

Yeah, that is my meatball story. I swallowed a meatball. I felt a hair on my tongue, and then I took the hair out and I felt all the contents of the meat come up.

[Amelia Marino]

That is so disgusting.

[David Wayne]

Oh, my God, my throat.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

That's awful.

[Mike Mitchell]

That's almost like what they were doing a cartoon to eat the meatball twice.

[David Wayne]

I took the hair.

[Amelia Marino]

I looked like a kebab. Like, was there a fish hook at the end of the hair?

[David Wayne]

I don't know how it happened. It looked like a kebab of meat. Like. Like a meat stick on a hair. When I. After I pulled it out.

[Mike Mitchell]

Did you eat the meatball again or. No?

[David Wayne]

No, I threw it in the garbage.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

And you've been off meatballs ever since?

[David Wayne]

Yes. And I went vegetarian for eight years after that.

[Mike Mitchell]

Wow.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

An Italian who has a distaste for meat. Meatballs. How about that?

[Amelia Marino]

Do you remember the restaurant Dojo in New York, which was. It's. It was a very, very cheap, like, sort of soy burgery type restaurant that was around. All the NYU people went there because it was so cheap and kind of good, I guess. And then. But one day I went in there and got a salad with a friend and there was a giant roach just in the salad, served in the salad. And she calls the waiter. It's like. She's like, don't eat that. That's what the waiter said.

[Mike Mitchell]

That is insane.

[David Wayne]

Did you go back?

[Amelia Marino]

I probably. No, I'm sure I went back because it was so cheap.

[Mike Mitchell]

Wow, Amelia, was this a Sunday gravy that you ate the hair out of?

[David Wayne]

It might have been a Sunday gravy. Yeah, I think so.

[Mike Mitchell]

The Italians love three things. Sunday gravy, Christopher, Columbus and Trump. Yeah, those are the three big ones. Those are the big three. So to ruin Sunday gravy seems horrible.

[David Wayne]

I still got the other two, though.

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[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

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[Mike Mitchell]

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[Amelia Marino]

I thought I was Beck Bennett.

[Mike Mitchell]

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[Amelia Marino]

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[Mike Mitchell]

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[David Wayne]

No, all good.

[Mike Mitchell]

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[Amelia Marino]

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[Mike Mitchell]

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[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

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[Amelia Marino]

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[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

We should get to our fork scores. David, you know, the podcast before we

[Mike Mitchell]

touched on this before, but I do think that Daero's had diarrhea is my guess. He's probably had a bad Sunday gravy, right?

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

I think Da's probably had. Robert Dairo's probably had diarrhea in his life.

[Mike Mitchell]

I think so, too.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

Yeah, I think there's. I think probably everyone at some point has experienced diarrhea. I'd be. You know, if we have a listener who knows made. Made it through this much of life without having diarrhea, let us know.

[Mike Mitchell]

That's interesting.

[Amelia Marino]

I'd love to hear about that.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

Yeah, love to hear.

[Mike Mitchell]

Or if anyone who knows Robert De Niro knows can confirm or deny that he has.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

Yeah, yeah. Also, yeah, if you have a personal connection to Robert De Niro and want to ask, we can get that data point.

[Amelia Marino]

Earlier today, I did AMA on Reddit, and one of the things they said, they asked me some question about my fork score or something involving Amelia, and I can't remember what it was, but I guess they can. We should look it up when she gets back from the bathroom.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

Wow.

[Mike Mitchell]

Oh, your fork score from the last time you were here.

[Amelia Marino]

I don't know. I forget what the qu. It was about. Something about you guys that they didn't know that I was doing this today. So it's just a real kiss met.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

How about that?

[Mike Mitchell]

I love that.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

And speaking of fork scores, we're going to do that now for Panera and it's salad stuffer promotion. David. We, we'll. We'll get a closing argument from you, if you will, and then a score from zero to five forks. Oh, I like those boots.

[Mike Mitchell]

Those are nice boots.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

They're really cool.

[Amelia Marino]

Your classic. Whatever they're called. Well, I mean, I think they're very. A Blundstone. Yeah.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

I like the little pull tab in the front. That's fun.

[Amelia Marino]

Yeah. So you can just easily grab them on both sides and put them on.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

How about that? Pull yourself up by your bootstraps.

[Amelia Marino]

You can literally do it.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

Wow.

[Mike Mitchell]

So how about that wise.

[Amelia Marino]

You want my concluding.

[David Wayne]

Yeah, your.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

Your thoughts and your fork score for Panera.

[Amelia Marino]

So specifically on the salad stuff, I. I'd see.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

You can be. You can paint with as broad a brush as you like.

[Amelia Marino]

Well, well, okay. So I will say I don't hate the concept. I didn't hate the sort of general taste of it, but the bread was very subpar and the salad was like a little soggy. So that alone I'm going to give maybe two forks, two and a half forks for. Can I do that?

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

Yeah.

[Amelia Marino]

And then overall Panera, everything I saw and tried and ate, I'm going to go down to two.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

Wow. Two forks.

[Amelia Marino]

Yeah.

[Mike Mitchell]

What do you.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

What say you, spoon man?

[Mike Mitchell]

I didn't. These didn't bother me as. As much as. They didn't. They didn't bother me as much as everyone else. I didn't. I didn't think that they were necessarily great, but I don't know, maybe just the fast food's gotten so bad and I kind of do like their Greek salad. So having it in a thing of bread was fine to be me. I.

[Amelia Marino]

What kind of curve are we grading this on?

[Mike Mitchell]

I mean, I almost broke my tooth on top of that. So this is, this is another issue. I'd say that this. The, the, the stuffers are like 2.75 to three forks. Yeah, 2.75. I'll give it 2.75. It's. They're not great.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

Two forks three times.

[Mike Mitchell]

And then for me, I think I'm going to lower my Overall Panera from Five Forks for this visit alone. 3.75. I'll take it out of the Golden W club.

[Amelia Marino]

You had it. You had it at five.

[Mike Mitchell]

I had a four soups specifically, but

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

I really great soup experience.

[Mike Mitchell]

I would say that I would normally put Panera for Like a Greek salad and tomato soup. I put it at like four forks. I like it, but I don't think it makes that. I don't think it makes the.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

The.

[Mike Mitchell]

The Golden Plate Club anymore.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

Nothing we're. Have.

[Mike Mitchell]

We.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

We had nothing we experienced was obviously as vile as a salad that had a roach in it. But like David with Dojo, right? I did not like this Panera experience, but I'll probably go back to Panera because it's reliable, it's consistent, and if you order the right things like the Mac and cheese, I think you can have a decent meal. But the right thing is not the salad stuffer. I mean, this, this just. This lto just doesn't work. I.

[Mike Mitchell]

And.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

And I think it's just it, It's. It's the. It's the lowquality bread and it's the soggy greens, which I'd rather just have in a salad.

[Mike Mitchell]

Lto.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

Yeah. I do like saying lto.

[Amelia Marino]

For the Mac and cheese alone. Own if. Especially on the criteria of are you getting what you expect? I'll give it a five.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

Wow.

[Amelia Marino]

Wow.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

Five forks for the Mac and cheese.

[Mike Mitchell]

The bag's not always bad.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

The bag's not always bad.

[Mike Mitchell]

It's not always bad.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

I had. I gave it four forks last time. Again, four soups alone.

[Mike Mitchell]

What can you get from bag stuff? Is it list? Not, not.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

Not.

[Mike Mitchell]

It is listeria from bagged. Isn't like from bagged cheeses and stuff like that.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

And. And bat. Yeah, and bagged or hysterians.

[Mike Mitchell]

Sometimes you can't get hysteria if it's so good.

[Amelia Marino]

Right.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

If you're of the delicate feminine character.

[Amelia Marino]

You can also get a stereo system.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

You can get a stereo system. That's just an option. You have.

[Amelia Marino]

Emilia, did you see on the Reddit Ama something about asking about your forks?

[David Wayne]

I did see that.

[Amelia Marino]

What was that?

[David Wayne]

Someone was asking you what your fork score was. Me As a worker. As an assistant. Assistant. Oh, probably a one.

[Amelia Marino]

No, I would say. Yeah. One.

[Mike Mitchell]

You know what? I think we're in the hand holding club. I think one fork is pretty good.

[Amelia Marino]

You were kind of an assistant two different times and the second time was particularly bad.

[David Wayne]

Yeah, Yeah. I just. I don't have the bandwidth for it.

[Amelia Marino]

No.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

As far as I'm concerned, it's four. It's five forks behind the deus. Four forks to salmon, one to Amelia. I just thought this. The.

[Mike Mitchell]

The.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

The sufferer, the stuffer was bad and the other things that I had did just did not. Did not impress me. This was a pretty disappointing outing. I'm not gonna go all the way to one fork because I just have affection for Panera and I like that they're trying something. I just don't think this works.

[Amelia Marino]

That's a millennial thing, the affection for Panera.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

Yeah. Yeah, maybe it is. I don't know.

[Mike Mitchell]

Yeah. Why do you have affection for Panera?

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

It's just like I said, it's consistent. It's a place. You know what part of it is as someone who is like, sometimes has to work remotely. Often has to work remotely. It's like I can go in there and get wi Fi. I can have a serviceable soup or

[Mike Mitchell]

and a half juice to somebody.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

Yeah. Tell someone they're fired over zoom. And then I can have Fill up the bathroom. Exactly. But then I. And then, you know, the beverages I think are pretty good there. Like, like, you know, you get.

[David Wayne]

You.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

You get some decent coffee or whatever or. Or some sort of soft.

[Mike Mitchell]

You. I feel like is up your alley.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

No, I'm not gonna get the. The charged lemonades, which killed several people and then remained on the menu for six months. But we talked about that last time, and it's not part of the fork score. My fork score for this visit is two forks and I think one fork for the solid stuff, which is just not work.

[Mike Mitchell]

Rough outing. Yeah.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

Hey, that was our review of Panera. It's time for a segment. We've got a food stuff. We're gonna decide if you should put it in your mouth. It's snack or whack. And today we have some tinned fish. This is like a hot girl item, I guess. Right? There's the hot girls like the tinned fish and hot boys.

[Amelia Marino]

Hot boys like me.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

Okay.

[Mike Mitchell]

This is a hot person item.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

Yeah, I wish.

[Mike Mitchell]

I know.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

I think this is an influencer thing where. Where hot people like this because it's. And I assume it's just a. I'm

[David Wayne]

going to keep everything with this.

[Amelia Marino]

The.

[David Wayne]

With the package because it's otherwise.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

Got it.

[Amelia Marino]

Can you hand me that for one second, though? Can we do the thing where it's like, take it out and.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

Ooh.

[Mike Mitchell]

Asmr.

[Amelia Marino]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So we got this fish. This is from Fish Wife right here.

[Mike Mitchell]

What is. What is. What is. What is the different.

[Amelia Marino]

These are. I'm a. I am a tin fish aficionado. I love. I eat tinned fish almost daily.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

Wow.

[Amelia Marino]

I really, really love it.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

What got you into it? Has this been a thing a long time now, hubby?

[Amelia Marino]

I feel like I've definitely eaten sardines. For a really long time.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

I do like sardines.

[Amelia Marino]

They've exploded in popularity, you know, now they have these more like designer brands and there's so many different kinds, but it's really, you know, actually very decent quality. Protein, healthy, delicious, easy, convenient, snack slash meal.

[Mike Mitchell]

Sorry. One of those looks like cat food.

[David Wayne]

They all look like.

[Mike Mitchell]

Oh, they all look like cat food.

[Amelia Marino]

That's what cat food is. It's similar to cat food.

[Mike Mitchell]

This was a gift. One of these was a gift I brought in. Someone gave. I think my mom gave me this for Christmas.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

Yes, you got. You had some. Yeah. I want to return to the fish wife ones which we, which we're taste testing, which are the bulk of these. But there is one, Mitch, that you brought in, which is a King Oscar brand. So that's. So we've got these more like made

[Mike Mitchell]

some old ass joke that no one got.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

We got. We got some more cake, contemporary, like artisan, you know, like, like small batch, whatever. The kind of ones that hot people like. But then we've also got like the classic, like sort of old man one. And yes, you've got King Oscar in a can, which is a classic joke, is. Do you have King Oscar in a can? Well, let him out.

[Amelia Marino]

Right? I'm going to do an ASMR on this opening of this can right here.

[Mike Mitchell]

I said that my grandpa wouldn't even understand that joke.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

I think it's a pretty good joke.

[Amelia Marino]

All right, now we can.

[Mike Mitchell]

That was. That. That was. We. We, we, we. We. I talked over your asmr. I fucked up.

[Amelia Marino]

It's cool.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

Excuse me, sir, do you have a King Oscar and a can? Yes, I do. Why don't you let him out? That's a good joke.

[Mike Mitchell]

No, it's not.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

Emilia, back me up. I don't think.

[Amelia Marino]

I don't think that was.

[Mike Mitchell]

You don't.

[Amelia Marino]

But that wasn't the classic joke. It wasn't King Oscar, was it? Maybe it was.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

Anyway, I don't know, man. It might have been a different brand.

[Amelia Marino]

Also, I will say is you can, and I do eat these sort of things right out of the can, but you also can do it with some mayonnaise or, you know, there's a million different things you can add to it. So it's put it in a salad or. They're not all meant to only be eaten straight out of the can like we are right now.

[Mike Mitchell]

Did you just eat this fish like this?

[Amelia Marino]

Yeah.

[Mike Mitchell]

You just eat it?

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

Yeah, yeah. You know what? That Eat that whole bad boy really

[Amelia Marino]

well, because, like, you see Some of them come in different flavorings already. They come sardines with hot peppers. Some would come in a mustard sauce or a tomato sauce or a lemon sauce or, you know, and some of them come with just impacting water and then you do what you want with it.

[Mike Mitchell]

This, this is just.

[Amelia Marino]

Some people don't like it. I, I often will pull out a tin fish in a workplace and people make me leave.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

Some people find it repulsive. I will say the scent is strong. Is quite strong here. It's quite potent.

[Amelia Marino]

Yeah. No, a lot of people hate it.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

So we should maybe blaze through these and then, and then, then get them out of the room. To, to.

[Amelia Marino]

No one's in here.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

That's a great point. Let's. Let's have the lingering extra fish down.

[Amelia Marino]

I think you're hating it.

[Mike Mitchell]

I ate the King Oscar first. You want to try this, David?

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

I'll start with the King Oscar.

[Mike Mitchell]

You know what's funny is that it's extremely fishy at first bite and then it does kind of mild out as soon as you. As soon as you kind of eat more of it.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

It looks like this has some capers on top of it.

[Amelia Marino]

Yeah.

[Mike Mitchell]

That's not peppercorns, I believe.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

Oh, they're peppercorns. I apologize.

[Amelia Marino]

These King Osters. This is an extra village olive oil with spicy cracked pepper. I don't consider this the, the generic like classic as much like there's. You can still get sardines from like chicken of the sea kind of thing.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

Right.

[Mike Mitchell]

This looks like salmon, this one. Oh, Smoked trout with red chimichurri.

[Amelia Marino]

Great. Packed in Poland.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

Was, was Fish Wife your pitch? Is this, is this one of your go to brands now?

[Mike Mitchell]

This, this is. That's fantastic.

[Amelia Marino]

Fishwife. Yeah.

[Mike Mitchell]

Smoked trout with chimichurri is great.

[Amelia Marino]

Fishwife is a brand that's relatively new and it was started, I think by this woman and she, you know, put together all the packaging. It's like a very sort of TikTok era type brand.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

But it's great, Mitch, because we're gonna have this trip titch of, of of a tuna. I'm going to pitch that. The next one we do is the sardines with hot peppers.

[Mike Mitchell]

Sure.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

Also, they're particularly spicy.

[Mike Mitchell]

Sorry to.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

Full of soft. Let me go into trout town.

[Amelia Marino]

God, this is good. Here, you want this?

[Mike Mitchell]

Oh, sure. Thank you. Yeah, this one is. This one's filled to the brim.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

Trout is great.

[Amelia Marino]

I'm going to trout town a little later, honestly.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

Maybe I'll join you. That's, that's, that's damn good with a red chimichurri that kind of honestly tastes like Texas chili. It's the same sort of, like, flavor profile.

[Mike Mitchell]

Why aren't they putting these into Italian stuffers? They should be the, the.

[Amelia Marino]

Yeah.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

Bunch of tin fish.

[Mike Mitchell]

Pretty good.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

I'll take one of those filled up

[Amelia Marino]

with some fish I love. Like, I went to. I remember I went to a hotel in Nashville and you. And you order a drink and you get. They bring you a little tin with fish and the piece of nice bread and it's. What a great snack, you know?

[Mike Mitchell]

This one's very basic. Which one is this wag?

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

This is sardines with hot peppers.

[Mike Mitchell]

Oh, I couldn't. I can't.

[Amelia Marino]

No, no, that's this one, right?

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

No, no, no, I moved that one over. This is. Why do you do that? Well, because I couldn't reach the smoked trout one. Let me, let me get up and move it. This is the smoke trout.

[Mike Mitchell]

I don't need to confuse. It's not that spicy, that one, but it's not bad.

[David Wayne]

I love pudding too.

[Amelia Marino]

They're not all supposed to be spicy, but this would be. Yeah, this is just. Well, it's spicy too.

[Mike Mitchell]

There's a little. The oil is a little bit spicy. I'm realizing, right,

[Amelia Marino]

I got a very spicy aftertaste, but good.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

Let me see how spicy this, this bad boy is. I am a bit of a heat seeker. So I do like a spicy.

[Mike Mitchell]

Oh, yeah, there is an aftertaste that was wrong.

[Amelia Marino]

But a lot of times you want to get a non spicy or non flavored one and then you mix it in with something of your own, like, right, you know.

[Mike Mitchell]

Now, is Fish Wife a take on Hot Wife, like hot wifing?

[Amelia Marino]

I don't know.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

I think probably, yeah.

[Mike Mitchell]

All right.

[David Wayne]

Yeah, like, I like the fish. Never mind.

[Amelia Marino]

But now.

[Mike Mitchell]

No, go on.

[David Wayne]

I can't remember the shape of wolf water situation.

[Mike Mitchell]

Yeah, sure. Okay.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

Yeah, you've got like a, like you're. You're married to a human woman, but you're some sort of anthropomorphic fish creature like a Prince Sidon from Breath of the Wild. And. But you're into other. Watching other fish creatures. Your wife.

[Amelia Marino]

But you know, you'll go to a lot of these sort of fancy little stores on the east side in LA or wherever, and you, you'll see a big display of Fish Wife and other other kind of hip brands of these.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

Mitch, let me pitch, let me pitch something real quick.

[Mike Mitchell]

Sorry, I'm not done.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

No, I think. Let's take the. Take The. The sardines off. And then let's just do the. All three of these. This trilogy of. Of. Of tuna. Right?

[Mike Mitchell]

Trilogy of. The trilogy of tuna.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

So what. What don't you know? I think just. Just take all three of them and we can just. We can just taste and distro them as we go.

[Mike Mitchell]

I like that.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

So we've got the albacore tuna and olive oil.

[Mike Mitchell]

These do look the most like cat food of the bunch.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

Albacore tuna with soy ginger and albacore tuna with Spanish. Spanish lemon. Are. Are any of these, like, among your.

[Amelia Marino]

One of them is literally cat food. But you have to guess, David, are

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

any of these ones that we have here, like, specific ones that you've had before or ones that you order?

[Amelia Marino]

Not really, actually.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

What do you go for?

[Amelia Marino]

I. If it's a fish wife, I'll go for probably the. I don't go for the super spicy ones. I just happen not to usually choose those.

[Mike Mitchell]

Yeah.

[Amelia Marino]

But I'll definitely go with the flavorings if it's like that. And it's sometimes in a tomato sauce or. And then mustard sauce. I like that sort of thing. And then I also often will get like, the mussels or the oysters or the squid or the mackerel or all those other things, you know, the more interesting or less common ones.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

I didn't know mackerel was an option.

[Amelia Marino]

Oh, yeah, there's. And as they've gotten more popular, there are more and more different kinds of fish in the can.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

I remember I read an article years ago about how at a certain point in federal prisons, they banned cigarettes, which cigarettes, of course, were. Were kind of a de facto currency in the joint. So what became the next one everyone went to? Everyone. Everyone switched over to canned mackerel because there wasn't a. There was. There was a similar, I guess, shape, and they were, like, easy to stack and easy to track. So it was like cans of Mac were how you. You purchase different items. You want to get a haircut, and then four tins of Mac.

[Mike Mitchell]

I can't wait to throw all this tin fish away and for it to be in the headgum trash for like five days.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

I don't know if this. This should be thrown away because I think some of this stuff is really salvageable.

[David Wayne]

I'm going to go to town on that after.

[Amelia Marino]

But then I would just throw it in the little small wastebasket in the office. But what I was going to say, I don't know if it's still there. There was a huge store in Times Square that Was walls and. Walls and walls of tin fish from all over the world.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

Wow.

[Amelia Marino]

All different kinds.

[Mike Mitchell]

I gotta say, I. I like this way more than I ever thought I would. All of these great. I'm kind of shocked.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

No, this is the thing. Like, I discovered as a kid via having some of my grandpa's, that I liked sardines. And I was also shocked because I was like, these look disgusting. Why would I want to eat a whole, slimy, cold fish? But they're just like, you know, like, they're salty, they're oily in a very, like, fun way.

[Amelia Marino]

Oh, wow.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

That was delicious.

[Amelia Marino]

This last one is the Spanish lemon, I guess, is really good, but, you know.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

All right, so if you keep going.

[Amelia Marino]

I'm just saying what's great about this sort of thing is you can throw it in a backpack and it can be there for a year and then just take it out when you need

[David Wayne]

it, you know, like, expire in 2030.

[Amelia Marino]

Yeah.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

Wow. How about that Shelf life.

[Mike Mitchell]

That's what I do.

[David Wayne]

Camping. Yeah.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

You just have, like, smoked trout in a little can.

[Amelia Marino]

Yeah.

[Mike Mitchell]

Just.

[Amelia Marino]

And it's had to something in the car.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

What?

[Amelia Marino]

Like, when you're really. And it's. And it's not just like having. Having a bag of peanuts or something, it's actually like a really, you know, real piece of food.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

I gotta tell you, that one in olive. That's just an olive oil is a standout for me. There's just something to what you're saying. The simplicity of it. It's just. And the quality.

[Amelia Marino]

I also love to, like, wash it down with a little bit of regular plain water. You ever tried that?

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

Oh, yeah. Spanish lemon's good too.

[David Wayne]

I think it's tinned fish summer. Cause I also started getting it to tin fish just now.

[Amelia Marino]

Well, and now that it's been featured on Doughboys, forget about it.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

The soy ginger, I think, is maybe just. It's just a little too.

[Amelia Marino]

Yeah.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

Complicated for me. I just. I feel like I don't. I don't need that. I think. I think less is more to get to going back.

[Amelia Marino]

I think it's a brand that's. They're trying a bunch of stuff because they need to keep expanding. But, yeah, the basics are really great.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

These are all. These are all winners, I would say snacks all around, including the. Is it is. You have. Mitch was King Oscar. You have in a can.

[Mike Mitchell]

King Oscar. Yeah.

[David Wayne]

Yes.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

Why don't you let him out?

[Amelia Marino]

Very good.

[Mike Mitchell]

What the fuck does that joke mean?

[Amelia Marino]

You know what I love a tin fish on a Little cracker.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

Oh, that is really fun.

[Amelia Marino]

Yeah.

[Mike Mitchell]

So the joke is just based around that brand. Yeah, a cracker would be great. A little piece of bread I thought would have been great to put. Put some of this stuff on.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

You just. Did you just go rogue with these? You're just like, I'm just gonna pick some out and we're just gonna. Yeah, no accoutrements. We're just gonna just get a go in pure. Yeah, I love it.

[David Wayne]

It's not how you do do it.

[Amelia Marino]

I mean, if you were listening at all, you might have heard, oh, I

[David Wayne]

wasn't listening for the past 10, 10 seconds. I was reading a text message from Mitch.

[Mike Mitchell]

There's an issue with our next recording. It is still fine. But do. Do you want to maybe try to call them?

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

Let's finish this episode and then we'll deal with it.

[Amelia Marino]

I think the more professional thing would be to finish what we're doing here and then we'll deal with the next one.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

So I go snacks all around, and I think they're all. They're all great. I think if I was going to rank my top three, I would probably go albacore tuna, olive oil. Albacore tuna, Spanish lemon. Sorry, Spanish lemon third. Olive oil second. And then there's just something. Even though it has a little bit more going on, the smoked trout is just so high quality. And the red chimichurri sauce, I think actually does work. I would love to have that with a little bit more of a, you know, like some sort of base like

[Mike Mitchell]

the one I brought you hate on.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

I love the King Oscar. That was great. I said they're all snacks. No, it's just not my top three. What was your top three? Hmm.

[Mike Mitchell]

I. I liked the chimichurri one, I think.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

Yeah, it was really good.

[Mike Mitchell]

That's in my top three. And then the tuna one you guys were talking about in olive oil is also my top three. And then, you know what? Old King Oscar, I think the closest

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

one, I would say someone should let him. Whatever King Oscar was no slouch. That's a. That's a really good.

[Amelia Marino]

Oh, let him out. Is that the wrong setup?

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

I. The one that's closest to whack for me is the albacore tuna with soy ginger. But I. But I still call. I still think it's a snack. What say you, David?

[Amelia Marino]

You got a favorite here, man. I. I know that I'm like the guy with the tin fish, but I really did like them all. Yeah, that soy ginger one, I agree, was maybe the least interesting. But and the super spicy one's just not really my main pick. But then otherwise I love them all. I really do.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

Good stuff. Amelia, you gotta, you gotta try these out later. Cause I know you always roll the dice on fish.

[Amelia Marino]

She said she's gonna go to town, she's gonna hoover these things.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

Sam, you like you said you're, wait, you're a camping guy? Yeah, sometimes.

[Amelia Marino]

Yeah.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

You got in the woods, do you have a, I guess you kind of got it like a, like a camping look.

[Amelia Marino]

Just a gross dirty look.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

Yeah, well, no, I wouldn't say that. Mean like a bag of bonds. I mean like you got a guy, you got a kind of guy. You can handle yourself outdoors. Yeah.

[Amelia Marino]

Grew up kind of going to Wisconsin a lot, so I like being outdoors.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

Right. Do you. Wait. So, but, so tin fish is like a regular thing you haul and also

[Amelia Marino]

I just like any seafood. I'm kind of like.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

Yeah, I could, I would try any. Wow. Being from the Midwest, you and me.

[Amelia Marino]

Yeah. I think it's, yeah. Well maybe in your Midwest it feels exotic.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

It's cold.

[Amelia Marino]

You gotta get put your meats, you gotta store them for the winter.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

Right.

[Amelia Marino]

Big treat growing up for me was going to Charlie's Crab.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

And you're from, oh, Ohio originally. Is that correct?

[Mike Mitchell]

Yeah.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

Okay.

[Mike Mitchell]

That sounds good.

[David Wayne]

Great.

[Amelia Marino]

It was like, it was like a, you know, what you would now call like a mid tier family seafood restaurant. Oh, did I love it?

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

That's, you know, those places can be a.

[Amelia Marino]

The only time I had lobster, you know, that kind of thing.

[Mike Mitchell]

How, how now that you was it. How was it as now that time has gone by and you've had seafood on the coast.

[Amelia Marino]

I have no idea how good it was because I was a kid and I loved it, but it could easily have been terrible. I, I just don't remember.

[Mike Mitchell]

That's these are, these are all they, these are all snacks. Also Doughboys are going to eat them out of. They're, they're going to be out of stock. Doughboys fans are.

[Amelia Marino]

I have a shelf in my house that's ton stuffed with all these things.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

I, I, this would absolutely get me like I, I have tin fish anyway. I, I'll eat tin fish regularly. But this will absolutely have me trying some of the, these fish wife ones because there's some really fun.

[Mike Mitchell]

What do they do with it? Are these, how do they make, what do they do? Do they, they, how do they cook the fish here?

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

I don't know if they're cooked.

[Mike Mitchell]

None of them are. Some of them have to Be cooked.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

I think. I think they might be cured or smoked.

[Amelia Marino]

Smoked.

[David Wayne]

Yeah.

[Mike Mitchell]

Okay. Okay.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

No, I think.

[Amelia Marino]

All right.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

No, I'm realizing now we could instead of Snacker Whack, we could have done like tin or bin or something dish.

[Mike Mitchell]

Like so fish.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

Fish or dish would have been.

[Mike Mitchell]

So if it's good, it's a dish, and if it's bad, it's a fish.

[David Wayne]

No, fish is good. A dish means, like you.

[Mike Mitchell]

Oh, you to get rid of it.

[David Wayne]

You like, you dish it out.

[Amelia Marino]

This is not super on point, but we had a very famous old video called Dick Fish, which you can look up on YouTube.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

There you go. That was Snacker Whack. Just like a restaurant. We've all your feedback. Let's look at the feedback. Today's email is from Brady, AKA Done number one eater.

[Mike Mitchell]

Oh, yeah, we know this guy.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

I know. I know. I. Amelia picked this one. He writes.

[Mike Mitchell]

We've talked to him before. The number one. The number one eater.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

When. When do we. We talked to the number one eater.

[Mike Mitchell]

We. I know we have.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

Was this. Was this at a live show or was this on the podcast?

[Mike Mitchell]

I don't know.

[Amelia Marino]

It's very weird. I was told by at least a couple of ladies that I was the number one.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

I actually have is.

[Mike Mitchell]

And I hate to disappoint.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

Unfortunately, I hate to disappoint both you and Brady, but apparently the number one eater is a Dr. Toonsy. So.

[Amelia Marino]

Yeah.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

Kind of top of two different fields.

[Mike Mitchell]

You make fun of Tunsy. He's. The guy is a great.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

I'm not making fun. I trust you that he's good dentist.

[Mike Mitchell]

You know, I. I said that the dental assist. I was like this guy. I said, doctor, he left the room. I said, the best dentist in the world. And. And the dental system went. And so she agreed with me.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

Loves her boss. Hello, doughboys. If toothpaste was savory, what flavor would you like it to be? I'm thinking a tomato basil toothpaste with a beef broth mouthwash. What about you guys? Thanks so much.

[Mike Mitchell]

If toothbrush toothpaste. Hey, this is all this all fits in. This is wild.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

I I toothpaste was savory.

[Mike Mitchell]

H. I'm N R for for. For my number of. For of my. I'm not the number one. I'm duh N slash R eater.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

Oh, I. I thought you meant dnr like do not resuscitate.

[Mike Mitchell]

I am also that I have an

[Amelia Marino]

answer for the question.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

Yeah, please pretzel. Ooh. It's a good answer.

[Amelia Marino]

Thank you.

[Mike Mitchell]

You that's pretty. That's a great answer. It has to be food based. Toothpaste. Yeah. I'm going. I'm. Oh, it has to be savory.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

Yeah, that's, that's, that's the challenge. Doing something.

[Mike Mitchell]

Because of course, orange or cherry, you know, Etc. You're gonna have fun.

[David Wayne]

I have one pesto.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

Pesto's not bad. Yeah, some. Some sort of.

[Mike Mitchell]

Wait, what are you talking about? Yes, it is.

[David Wayne]

Pesto is a good answer.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

Do you mean pesto for toothpaste?

[Mike Mitchell]

Pretzel. Pretzel. Pretzel. Pretzel on a breath doesn't bother you? Yeah, I don't want pesto on a breath. Is kind of garlicky and bad.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

Oh, I didn't think about it. The lingering breath effects.

[Mike Mitchell]

Yeah.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

Well, so. So maybe that's the mouthwashes. That. That's where we could consider.

[Mike Mitchell]

Are they both savory or no?

[Amelia Marino]

Yeah, that's the question.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

That's the, that's the question. That's the challenge of the question.

[Mike Mitchell]

Two different things. It's mouthwash and the toothpaste are savory.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

I'm going to pitch for the toothpaste. I'm gonna say nacho cheese. I think it just sort of like you think of like you. You dip your. Basically your toothbrush in the cup that you'd use for tortilla chips and then you kind of go in town and then to get to dispense of that lingering stench.

[Mike Mitchell]

Yeah.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

I think you would want something that was, that was a little bit away from dairy, maybe with something with some aromatics. I'm gonna say. Would you. Could you do. Could you do like a. Like a Fernet? Because I don't think of Fernet Branca as a sweet drink.

[Amelia Marino]

I have no idea what you. What that is.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

It's a. It's like a digestif. It's like a really. You know what? From the Midwest you might know Malort. It's like, it's like a better Malort.

[Amelia Marino]

Okay.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

Yeah, if that qualifies.

[Mike Mitchell]

I'm getting confirmation that peanut butter is savory.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

Come on.

[Amelia Marino]

I think you gotta ask the pussy eater.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

Yeah. Brady, how come if you're the number one pussy eater, put your money where your mouth is? How come you didn't say flavored mouthwash?

[Mike Mitchell]

Yeah, I have 100%. You really love savory or sweet? Depends.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

Would you be. Want you rubbing. Rubbing your teeth with labia? If you love that stuff.

[Amelia Marino]

That's. That's the next fish wife.

[David Wayne]

You have dental floss right there.

[Mike Mitchell]

I Feel like my answer. Man. This is. This is hard. This is a hard. This is a hard, hard one. Yeah.

[Amelia Marino]

My aunt Sunny used to use a labia mouthwash.

[Mike Mitchell]

I'm gonna go. Maybe I'll go with a steak. I like a, you know, a steak.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

Can I. Steak. Steak's pretty good.

[Mike Mitchell]

Can I do a steak and potatoes?

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

I think so.

[Amelia Marino]

I was. My second choice after pretzel was gonna be french fries.

[Mike Mitchell]

French fries pretty damn good. And also a pretty neutral.

[Amelia Marino]

Fries. Yeah.

[Mike Mitchell]

Yeah. So steak and potatoes. My.

[Amelia Marino]

My.

[Mike Mitchell]

My tooth. My tooth is. My tooth is steak. My toothpaste brush. My toothpaste is steak, and my mouthwash is potatoes.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

You know, I. I did. I did think of a. I did have a different thought for my toothpaste. And I'm a change.

[David Wayne]

It.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

I would go with. With wasabi because I think, like, it would be.

[Amelia Marino]

That's refreshing.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

It's like. Yeah, it's like. It's got like a pungent sort of quality.

[Amelia Marino]

I don't know that that counts as savory, though. That's more like minty.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

Maybe not savory enough. Okay. So I'll. I'll stick with nacho cheese. Thanks, Grady. AKA Number one pussy eater. Hey, congrats on the top spot. Yeah, congrats, buddy. Hold on to that.

[Amelia Marino]

Dear Life Wrap up.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

If you have a question or comment about the world of chain restaurants, you can email [e-mail] or leave us a voicemail. 830 Goo. That's 830-463-6844. Our producer is Emma Prod. Like Jesus Christ. Our producer is Emma Erd Brink. Our associate producer is Amelie Marino. Our video editor is Mike Dorfman. Special thanks to our guest engineer today, Sam the Man Rogich. Thanks, Sam.

[Amelia Marino]

Thanks for having me all.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

Appreciate you. Doic doughboys [e-mail] doughboys and meals. The Munch Madness 2026 reheated rivalry finale is finally happening live on stream.

[David Wayne]

Yes. Get [e-mail] we have the Munch Madness live finale coming up. And we have some lives live shows coming up in November. Second show added in in Austin. In Austin.

[Amelia Marino]

Yeah, I'll be there.

[David Wayne]

David will be there. The whole gang will be there. It'll be great.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

Check that out. Birdfuck.com live and get the Doughboys double A weekly bonus episode plus our entire back [e-mail] thought that the number one

[Mike Mitchell]

pussy were to be a Doughboys listener. Who would have thought? I'm impressed.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

I know.

[Mike Mitchell]

It's great.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

We Got a we, we got a wide demographic.

[Amelia Marino]

And once again, though, everyone would have to vote on that.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

Yeah, that's true. David Wayne, Gail Daughtry and the Celebrity Sex Pass in theaters July 10th. Congratulations. I bet. Plug away the movie and then, then you've got some other things going on. The Middle Aged Dad Jam band is touring in in later in July.

[Amelia Marino]

And then we're doing a really special show which is a tribute to the 25th anniversary of White Hot American Summer. So we' doing all sorts of music from the movie, we have guests from the movie, we have clips that you've never seen and all sorts of fun stuff. And it's going to be a great rock and roll fun comedy night. And we're going to be in the east coast. We're going to be in Rehoboth and we're going to be in Amagansett and New York City, Irving Plaza and Rhode island and Waterville, Maine.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

Amazing.

[Mike Mitchell]

One of the funniest, one of the funniest movies of like you said, wags. But also I grew up, I loved the state. I don't know if I gushed about this last summer.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

I think we did gush about this.

[Mike Mitchell]

No, you did. Okay.

[Amelia Marino]

And I appreciate it.

[Mike Mitchell]

I, I, I love the state. And the new movie is so funny. It's great. And people should go and and see it. And Stella and everything you've done over

[Amelia Marino]

there if you're in LA. August 8th, we're doing a big outdoor giant screening of Wet Hot American Summer with the cast there and the band playing and all that. And then the movie gets re released in theaters all over the country August 14th.

[Mike Mitchell]

Wow.

[Amelia Marino]

Wow.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

There you go. Gail Daughtry and the celebrity Sex Pass. See that now in theaters to look for middle aged dad Jam Bai Band later in July and Wet Hot American Summer being re released in August. Hey, that'll do it for this episode.

[Amelia Marino]

What a joy, guys.

[Mike Mitchell]

What a fun we have. Pleasure to have you back.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

Please come back, David, anytime. That'll do for this episode of Joe Boys. Until next time for the spoon man, Mike Mitchell. I'm Nick. Tiger Weger. Happy eating.

[Mike Mitchell]

See ya.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

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[Mike Mitchell]

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[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

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[David Wayne]

a deep dive from our show.

[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

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[Mike Mitchell]

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[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

We're going to go episode by episode.

[David Wayne]

We're also going to pepper in episodes with different guest stars and writers and casting directors.

[Mike Mitchell]

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[Amelia Marino]

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[Mike Mitchell]

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[Nick 'Tiger' Weger]

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[Mike Mitchell]

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[Amelia Marino]

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[Mike Mitchell]

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[Amelia Marino]

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[Mike Mitchell]

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