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Caller
Like a pot of soup.
Dr. Laura
A mixture of people, places and experiences. Some good, some not so good, some really bad. Family is the broth of that soup. It's the foundation. Over time, different things get thrown into the broth. But the starting point needs to be a good base with loving parents who are sweet and kind to each other, who are patient with their kids, who offer structure and support, discipline, guidance, and tons of love. The most difficult type of call that I get are from kids sometimes as young as five. It used to be they would call about friends who were mean or how self conscious they were about their big ears. But more and more frequently, the calls are sad ones from children whose parents are living out their own dreams, doing what makes them feel fulfilled and happy, without a heck of a lot of regard for how their behavior is going to impact their children down the road. Calls like this one from Madison.
Caller
Grandma and Madison, welcome to the program. Hi, Madison.
Madison
Hi, Dr. Laura.
Grandma
Hi, Dr. Laura.
Madison
Thank you for taking my call.
Caller
Sure. How old are you?
Madison
I'm 11 years old.
Caller
You're kidding. You sound so much more mature. Wow.
Grandma
Okay.
Caller
What grade are you in?
Madison
I get that a lot. Thank you. I'm in sixth grade.
Caller
You must be top of your class.
Dr. Laura
Anyway, what can I help you with?
Madison
I. I mean it. I. I would like to be. I. My dad, he moved away when I was 10 and I just wanted to know if.
Grandma
If he moved away.
Caller
Hold on. Was he married to your mother?
Madison
No, my dad. My dad and my mom divorced when I was five years old.
Caller
And so they lived how far away from each other when you were 10?
Madison
My. My. My dad lived in San Jose while my. Meanwhile, my mom and we lived in our con. We lived in a house for. I don't know what city.
Caller
What city?
Madison
Santa Clara.
Caller
Okay, so did he marry somebody else?
Madison
No, but he did find a girlfriend. But that was after he moved into an apartment and we moved in with our grandma. It's my grandma.
Caller
Okay, great. Okay, so your dad moved to where. Where is he living now?
Madison
Well, after a few years of being leaving. Living in an apartment, he moved to Arizona when I was 10.
Caller
Okay, I just need to know where he is now. Is he in Arizona now?
Madison
He's in Arizona now, yes.
Caller
And before he left for Arizona, how often did you see. See him and do stuff.
Madison
We saw him on Monday and Tuesdays.
Caller
Okay, and when he said he's going to Arizona and we wouldn't see anybody on Monday and Tuesday, how did he explain that to you? What did he say?
Madison
He said that he was thinking about. That they were thinking about moving to Arizona because his fiance, Tracy, she. She. She. Her daughter had a child and she was moving to Arizona to help her out with the child, so they were going to move into her house.
Caller
Okay. And now let's just jump to your question.
Madison
My question is, was my dad. Did he really move away for the good of my sister, my sister and me to have a better life, or was he really just moving for his fiance?
Caller
Where's fiance?
Madison
Really?
Caller
Really? Oh, okay, honey. When there's a divorce, and that's why I tell people before they get married, and remember this for when you're older, that you should spend six to nine months in premarital counseling so you make sure you're a good match and understand each other and what's required in a marriage so that you don't have kids. And then destroy the family. What is very typical after a divorce is, and I'll use your example, is for one or the other, in your case, it's the dad to meet somebody new, and then that becomes the most important thing in their lives. And you're right, it is very typical that they just wave goodbye to their kids and start a whole new life. Because what's more important to your dad is that he not be alone and have his girlfriend, fiance. That's more important to him. Now that I've said that and it sounds horrible, let me say two other things. Number one, it doesn't mean you're not lovable. It just means your dad's a jerk. Just because somebody helped give birth to you doesn't mean they're not a jerk. A lot of jerks create kids. He's being a jerk and being very selfish and being very weak and doing that. A real man would have said, I'm sorry, then we can't get married. I'm not leaving my kids.
Dr. Laura
You have your mom and your grandma. You have people who love you. And I don't think we could get your mom to leave you behind if we threatened her. Keep that close to your heart. I know this thing with your dad hurts, but keep your mom and grandma closer to your heart. I cannot believe to what degree our society has embraced an attitude of just do what you feel you want to do. Too many parents don't seem to think it matters they don't realize that they're ruining the broth. Your kids are watching, listening, learning from you and reacting to you. Much of the problems we have in our country start with the wrong things. Parents are teaching and role modeling for their kids. One of the ways parents ruin their family broth is by pursuing dual and dueling careers. Instead of sharing a car, cooking more at home, buying clothes on discount, moving into smaller homes or to less affluent communities that can be afforded on one income, Many couples decide that they'll both work. Instead of sacrificing material things, they sacrifice time and energy left over with their kids, which is what Stacy had been doing for the years heading up to our conversation.
Grandma
Stacy, welcome to the program.
Stacy
Hi Dr. Laura. Thank you so much for taking my call. You have genuinely helped me a thousand times. Whether I'm listening to you in my car with my son or not, I'll try to be quick. I'm sorry. I have a 15 year old son who I, who's really struggling in school. It's not really new. He's always struggled. But we recently, well, we always knew there was something. We learned he had a learning disability, which was adhd. He sees a neurologist, he does therapy periodically. But from the therapist and from all of those things, it's really boiled down to him having a lack of motivation to do well. Both my husband and I have like had lots of conversations with him. But recently in this last year, we've noticed even a like steeper decline in like what doing well looks like. So somebody who was typically getting Bs or Cs is now getting Ds and even an F on this last report card. And I don't know how much of this I should continue to be like, show me your homework. Let me sign this paper. What are you doing? Are you studying now?
Grandma
It's not the, that's not the problem.
Stacy
Okay.
Grandma
Emotionally, what's his problem? He's got an emotional problem. You're his mom. I, you have to tell me, what is it?
Stacy
I think, I think he doesn't probably. I think he has low self esteem.
Grandma
Okay, that's like telling me somebody has a virus. It doesn't mean anything. Just doesn't mean anything. What is he sad about in life? What's he sad about? What's happened to him? What's he sad about? Was he molested? Is the family falling apart? Is somebody beating him?
Stacy
No, nothing like that. I mean.
Grandma
Well then tell me what it is. If it's nothing like that. It's something. So what Are our other options?
Stacy
I think that he's lonely. A lot. We have.
Grandma
Well, that's a symptom. That's not the problem.
Stacy
Maybe he feels like he doesn't get enough attention and then he does get a lot of attention when we have like these long lecture, sit down talks about his grades.
Grandma
And why doesn't he get enough attention, do you think?
Stacy
Because my husband and I are both tired from working a lot. I am quitting my job this summer to be a better mom. But until I'm able to do that financially, I think he's got the breadth of.
Grandma
The problem is he's 15 and the damage is done. So why don't you have a discussion with him tonight as to what he's sad about?
Stacy
Okay.
Grandma
Say, I'm not going to lecture you about your classes anymore because that's really stupid of me.
Caller
Right, because it is stupid of you.
Grandma
But that's what happens when two parents are career oriented. They just want the kids to sort of march to the band and just do everything right and not cause a problem. That's why I'm totally against two career families because the kids always get the short shrift, much less the marriage and the sex. It's just not the way it works the best, Feminism notwithstanding. That's not what works the best. So you need to sit with him and say, you know, I apologize. I think I've just been nagging you about the schoolwork when that's not really the problem. You're smart enough to get A's and.
Dr. Laura
B's, but you're sad.
Grandma
And I think you're sad because there's not much family life here. There's just mommy and daddy work and come home and take care of this and that's it. And I think you're sad. I think that's why you don't care about school. And I apologize. Start there.
Stacy
Okay.
Grandma
You come to a kid with an apology and they're amazed and they open.
Caller
Up better.
Grandma
Because there's nothing to defend against. He's not stupid.
Stacy
Mm, that's a good point.
Grandma
When my kid was old enough to be able to sit up without falling over too often, I would sit him on the ground and face him. Everybody spreads their legs and pushes a ball back and forth. So one time I didn't do a very good job because he's little and so the legs don't come out very far. So the ball kind of went a little bit under the chair that he was next to. I'm going on this self esteem thing that I'm sick of hearing about. And he started to whimper because he didn't have the ball right in front of him. Now, I could have gone over and I almost got up. I started to move, slapped myself down, and I said, honey, you can get it. And he looked and he couldn't. And then he sort of flopped over and stuck a little chubby hand in and got the ball and he just lit up.
Caller
But mom has to be there for.
Grandma
That moment to happen.
Stacy
Okay, so I start with the apology.
Grandma
I start with the things he's been doing well around the house and the things he's been doing well around. He's got nobody to help him light up. Okay, that's you and dad. Yeah. Even at this age, they require work.
Dr. Laura
I have to take a break. But it's a good moment for you to consider how you can make that broth more flavorful by how you treat your spouse.
Caller
Be right back.
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The family was one of the most important structures to human existence. Spending time with your kids needs to be worth more to you than anything you can buy. If there isn't quantity time, there's no real chance of quality time. Another way kids get shortchanged by their parents is when the parents break up or have shackups and create more kids with someone else who mom and dad may or may not marry. This is a disaster. Just like adding too much salt or too much pepper to the broth is a disaster. As I told my caller, Karen, parents like her make it more likely that their kids will shack up, have sex out of wedlock, have kids early because their lives have been so sexualized and they've been taught that commitment doesn't really matter.
Caller
Karen, welcome to the program.
Karen
Hi, Dr. Laura.
Caller
Hi.
Karen
Hi. I have a question on how to work with my boyfriend's 14 year old daughter. To give you a little back history, him and I have lived together in a house.
Caller
How long have you been. You're shacking up with a guy who has a teenage daughter and you just started listening to my show this morning?
Karen
No, I've been listening for several years, actually.
Caller
Oh, then in the several years, you never heard me say that it was morally wrong to be shacking up with somebody with minor kids?
Karen
Well, I have two minor children myself.
Caller
It's morally wrong to be shacking up, teaching your children that this is okay, that this is equivalent to a sacred commitment. So they see their mother being an unpaid whore, and how does that help them respect you or think about themselves in the future in a sacred marriage. I'm just wondering how that's done.
Karen
Oh, that's a very good point.
Caller
I hope his daughter is giving you so much crap that you have diarrhea every other day.
Karen
Well, it hasn't been easy, that's for sure.
Caller
So this little girl is watching her daddy shack up with some woman he's not even married to and having to deal with that woman's kids. That's a nice thing for you to do. That would be your choice if you were 14. To have your dad be humping up with some broad with other kids. That would have made you happy. No, that would make you behave right? How dare you have any criticism of how a 14 year old behaves. Look at what you're doing. And you're an adult mother acting vulgarly annoyed that she doesn't like you or she isn't nice to you or she doesn't respect you, she shouldn't respect you.
Karen
Well, I guess what's done is done. But how do I.
Grandma
No.
Caller
Get your ass out of there and tell your kids you made a terrible mistake and that a sacred commitment with vows is the way you have a quality relationship after your children are grown up. Once you've already screwed up a marriage. So should I get out? I should get out yesterday. You know, I'm going to be blunt with you. Oh gee, I haven't been. I'm going to be even more blunt with you. It's women like you who ruin it. In our culture it used to be men had to earn a woman's love and body and soul and life. Now you women just show up. Makes it very hard for the good women who expect men to rise to the occasion. You create chaos in our society by teaching children that commitment is meaningless. You can destroy a marriage and you can just shack up and hook up with some guy. You are destroying our culture. You are doing that. You personally, personally are hurting his child or children because their daddy is paying attention to some shack up honey's kids. He shouldn't be doing that. His full attention should be on his kid. He already helped destroy her family. Now he puts her in a competitive situation. What a disgusting thing for him to do for his kid. And how dare you participate in that.
Karen
But it's not that we don't talk about marriage.
Caller
I don't care what you talk about. You're a shack up honey.
Dr. Laura
That's all you are.
Caller
And that's what you teach your children.
Dr. Laura
How dare you hurt our culture. How dare you Hurt these children because you can't hack a real relationship that has a profound commitment to it. Your perspective of the world and how people should behave starts with what you experience in your original family unit. If you grow up with a family that loves you, encourages you, gives support and positive feedback, you're going to look at the world with enthusiasm. Enthusiasm. Those who come from chaos, from families that are neglectful, self absorbed or hurtful, tend to be starved for attention. And many will get themselves into the wrong situations. I'm always amused in a negative sort of way when parents call me about their children's bad behavior. You know, lying, stealing, smoking pot, and then tell me that before the bad behavior emerged there was some problem initiated by the parents. I don't know, like violence in the home, angry divorces, shack ups, that kind of instability, salad families and the such. The kids are just reacting to what the parents are doing because they have no other power than to wreak havoc. Sick thing is that parents, like my caller Stephanie, realize how much they could be the cause of their child's pain and bad behavior.
Caller
Stephanie, welcome to the program.
Stephanie
How are you?
Dr. Laura
Good.
Caller
What can I do for you?
Stephanie
I guess I just need advice on, I guess, future relationships and I guess how to get over my last relationship. It's only been not even two weeks since I left. I was with him for a year and a half and he just up and told me one day after I come home from work that his ex that he has two children with just called him and said that she wanted to come back and he was confused about what he wanted. And so I told him that I wasn't going to say if he was confused, like he needed to figure that on out on his own. And then he would just start crying saying that he chooses me and he wants me to stay. He just, he knows it's not going to work with her, but I still left anyway.
Caller
And so you were shacking up with him. You were not married, right?
Stephanie
Yes.
Caller
Well, of course you should send him back to his two kids. It's less important that he's enthralled with her and more important that he's there to raise his children.
Stephanie
Yeah, he has, I have a son with him.
Caller
So you got knocked up at a wedlock with a guy who already had two kids?
Stephanie
Yes.
Caller
Why would you do that?
Stephanie
Obviously it was my choice and it was a mistake, but I mean, I was on birth control. I wasn't trying to get pregnant.
Caller
Well, did you not take the pill for two days in a row or what did you take some antibiotic while you were on the pill? I mean, how did. How did this work?
Stephanie
I have no idea how. I don't know. I talked to my doctor about it and she said that sometimes that happens.
Caller
Well, here's the bottom line. Have there been in. Are there any more kids that you made?
Stephanie
Yes, I have two older children as well.
Caller
And you made them both with the same guy? Were you married to him? No.
Stephanie
No. They're not his?
Caller
No. Okay, so here's the problem. Here's the problem. You are grossly irresponsible and thoughtless, and now three children have chaos in their lives because of your decisions. You should be very ashamed of yourself. And hopefully that shame will motivate you that from this point on, you're not in any relationships with men. Your focus is to raise these kids with no more drama and no more chaos and no more loss.
Stephanie
Yeah.
Caller
You have a moral obligation to have no personal sex, romantic life.
Grandma
But.
Caller
To raise these kids as best you can with the help of some healthy family members. Hopefully you have a few.
Stephanie
That is.
Caller
So the answer to future dating. How old is the youngest one? How old is the youngest one?
Stephanie
He's four months.
Caller
Four months old. You have 18 years. And then you can call me back and we can talk about dating, but between now and then, you don't. And this guy needs to go back to his kids.
Stephanie
Yeah, I guess. It's just. I trusted the wrong people.
Caller
No, you were irresponsible and thoughtless. It has nothing to do with trusting other people. You were irresponsible and thoughtless. Don't blame the men for this. Shacking up and having sex out of wedlock with a guy who has two kids to raise was irresponsible and thoughtless of you. You have an argument to that? I mean, please tell me if you think I'm wrong. I can't wait to hear it.
Stephanie
No, I don't.
Caller
Your personal life is done. Done. Your maternal life is the only one you're responsible for now. You have no right to bring more pain, more loss, more. More chaos to these children. This is terrible. My hope is that you have some adult family members you can live with because you're going to need help with the little kidlet.
Dr. Laura
You certainly don't want to put the.
Caller
Little kidlet or any of the other kids in daycare where they have no one to love them all day. So that means you've got to be with family. Because abandoning these children because of your irresponsible and thoughtless actions would be even more Horrible.
Stephanie
Yeah, I'm the same with my mom.
Caller
Good. Permanently. Well, not permanently. 18 years.
Stephanie
Okay.
Caller
Your kids need you. Not your chaos and not your romantic drama. And for future reference, after 18 years, by and large, guys shack up with women not because they plan to stay, but because it's easier to leave.
Stephanie
Yeah.
Caller
And that has nothing to do with trusting somebody else. That was your own irresponsibility. So I'm begging you, please focus on minimizing the disaster that this all is for your three kids. I'm just begging you to do that.
Stephanie
No, I mean, that's my plan. I don't want to be with anyone else.
Caller
Good. Don't. 18 years. And call me and we'll discuss it.
Dr. Laura
Optimistic, aren't I?
Caller
18 years. Yeah.
Dr. Laura
Maybe they're forcing me against my will to take a break, but I hope it is in your will to do the best thing for your children. I'll be right back.
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Your children are impacted by what you do. Don't teach them that they aren't worth your time or that commitment in marriage just doesn't work. You have to think about their future marriages in all your decisions. If your relationship gets ugly and turns into chaos and divorce, your kids have more of a chance of never getting married, having babies out of wedlock, or getting divorced themselves. Their future needs to be your motivation to provide a stable, loving home. Yep. Stay together for the sake of the children. Unless there's danger in the home, don't screw up their broth for your selfish needs. I wrote how the Death of the Family Hurts Kids and Degrades Our Culture in the first chapter of my book, Stupid Things Parents do to Mess Up Their Kids. You can find it@drlaura.com and while you're there, hey, make an appointment to speak with me before you add something to the soup that is your child's life that cannot be undone. Now go do the right thing. If you like this podcast, be sure.
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Dr. Laura Call of the Day: Deep Dive – What Are You Adding to Your Child’s Soup? (Part 1 of Stupid Things Parents Do to Mess up Their Kids)
Release Date: March 20, 2025
Host: Dr. Laura Schlessinger
Platform: SiriusXM Triumph 111
In this episode of "Dr. Laura Call of the Day," Dr. Laura Schlessinger delves into the detrimental parenting behaviors that can adversely affect children, using the metaphor of a "soup" to represent the family environment. She emphasizes the importance of a strong family foundation, enriched with love, structure, and accountability, and warns against actions that can spoil this "broth." Throughout the episode, Dr. Laura addresses listener calls, providing straightforward advice infused with her signature no-nonsense style.
Dr. Laura begins the episode by explaining her analogy:
Dr. Laura [00:28]: "A mixture of people, places, and experiences. Some good, some not so good, some really bad. Family is the broth of that soup. It's the foundation."
She underscores that a healthy family begins with loving parents who are kind, patient, and provide structure, support, discipline, guidance, and ample love. However, over time, various factors can be "thrown into the broth," some of which may spoil the overall environment.
Caller: Madison, an 11-year-old girl, reaches out with concerns about her father moving away. She wonders if his relocation to Arizona was genuinely for the betterment of her and her sister’s lives or merely to be with his fiancée.
Madison [02:11]: "My dad moved away when I was 10 and I just wanted to know if he really moved away for the good of my sister and me to have a better life, or was he really just moving for his fiancée."
Grandma’s Advice [02:48]:
Madison’s grandmother responds harshly, labeling the father as selfish:
"Just because somebody helped give birth to you doesn't mean they're not a jerk. A lot of jerks create kids. He's being a jerk and being very selfish."
Dr. Laura’s Analysis [06:02]:
Dr. Laura connects this situation to a broader societal issue where parents prioritize personal fulfillment over family stability, effectively "ruining the broth."
Dr. Laura: "I cannot believe to what degree our society has embraced an attitude of just doing what you feel you want to do. Too many parents don't seem to think it matters..."
Caller: Stacy seeks advice regarding her 15-year-old son who is struggling academically and emotionally, despite having ADHD. She notes a decline in his grades and is uncertain about how to support him effectively.
Stacy [07:38]:
"I have a 15-year-old son who is really struggling in school. We've noticed a steeper decline in his grades recently..."
Grandma’s Advice [08:45]:
Stacy’s grandmother urges her to delve deeper into her son's emotional state rather than focusing solely on academic performance:
"Emotionally, what's his problem? ... If it's not something like molestation or abuse, it's something."
She recommends initiating an open and apologetic conversation to understand his true feelings.
Notable Interaction [09:56 - 12:42]: Grandma provides practical advice on improving parent-child communication, emphasizing empathy and acknowledgment of the child’s emotional needs.
Grandma [11:14]: "But you're sad... There's just mommy and daddy work and come home and take care of this and that's it..."
Dr. Laura’s Commentary [13:11]:
She highlights the impact of dual-career households on family dynamics:
"Parents are teaching and role modeling for their kids. One of the ways parents ruin their family broth is by pursuing dual and dueling careers..."
Caller: Karen seeks guidance on managing her boyfriend’s 14-year-old daughter while cohabiting with him.
Karen [14:35]:
"I have a question on how to work with my boyfriend's 14-year-old daughter..."
Aggressive Response [14:48 - 18:19]:
Another caller, representing a grandmotherly figure, vehemently criticizes Karen’s relationship, labeling it morally wrong and blaming her for societal decay.
Caller: "It's morally wrong to be shacking up with somebody with minor kids... You're destroying our culture."
Dr. Laura’s Intervention [18:06 - 18:19]:
Due to the aggressive and non-constructive nature of the caller’s input, Dr. Laura steps in to regain control of the conversation.
Caller: Stephanie seeks advice on moving past a recent breakup with a man who chose to reunite with his ex, leaving her to manage their children alone.
Stephanie [20:03]:
"I need advice on future relationships and how to get over my last relationship. It’s been less than two weeks since I left..."
Aggressive Response [20:06 - 26:43]:
Again, the grandmotherly caller harshly condemns Stephanie’s decisions, emphasizing personal responsibility and blaming her for creating chaos in her children’s lives.
Caller: "You are grossly irresponsible and thoughtless... You have a moral obligation to have no personal sex, romantic life."
Dr. Laura’s Closing Remarks [27:13 - 28:36]:
Despite the disruptive calls, Dr. Laura reinforces the episode’s central theme:
"Your children are impacted by what you do. Don't teach them that they aren't worth your time or that commitment in marriage just doesn't work..."
She ties the discussions back to her book, "Stupid Things Parents Do to Mess Up Their Kids," and urges listeners to make conscious, responsible decisions for the sake of their children’s futures.
Dr. Laura on Parental Responsibility [02:08]:
"The most difficult type of call that I get are from kids sometimes as young as five."
Grandma on Selfish Parenting [02:55]:
"He's being a jerk and being very selfish and being very weak and doing that."
Dr. Laura on Dual-Career Families [07:38]:
"Instead of sacrificing material things, they sacrifice time and energy left over with their kids..."
Grandma on Emotional Communication [11:14]:
"But you're sad... There's just mommy and daddy work and come home and take care of this and that's it..."
Dr. Laura on Family Stability [27:13]:
"Don't teach them that they aren't worth your time or that commitment in marriage just doesn't work."
In "What Are You Adding to Your Child’s Soup?", Dr. Laura Schlessinger provides a compelling exploration of how various parenting choices can either enrich or spoil the familial "broth." Through real-life calls, she addresses issues ranging from parental absenteeism and career prioritization to the challenges of blended families and co-parenting responsibilities. Dr. Laura emphasizes the profound impact these decisions have on children’s emotional well-being and future relationships, advocating for responsible, loving, and accountable parenting practices. Her insights serve as a crucial reminder that every action and decision within the family unit plays a significant role in shaping the lives of the children.
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