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The Dr. Laura Podcast
Episode: Reasons You Should Not Be Sending Your Kids Straight to College
Date: May 16, 2026
In this episode, Dr. Laura Schlessinger shares her perspectives on perfectionism, pushing back against its common bad reputation. She offers insights on the difference between healthy and pathological perfectionism, draws examples from her personal life, and provides advice for listeners who struggle with being “good enough.” The episode is rooted in Dr. Laura’s belief that striving for excellence can be a positive force, as long as it doesn’t devolve into self-destructive tendencies.
Note: Despite the episode title referencing reasons not to send kids straight to college, the main content focuses on perfectionism and its nuances, particularly as it relates to personal growth, productivity, and self-esteem.
Dr. Laura on healthy perfectionism:
On pathological perfectionism:
Letting go of comparison:
On self-forgiveness after mistakes:
Through personal stories and clear distinctions, Dr. Laura reframes perfectionism as a positive, empowering trait—when kept in perspective. She reassures listeners that while nobody is immune to moments of self-doubt, the healthiest path is focusing on personal growth, finding fulfillment in genuine effort, and letting go of toxic comparisons. Her philosophy: aim high, do your best—then learn when to breathe and move on.
For further advice or to interact with Dr. Laura, listeners are encouraged to call 1-800-DR-LAURA or visit DrLaura.com.