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Keith
Hi Dr. Laura. Thank you for taking my call.
Dr. Laura
Thank you. What's happening?
Keith
So we so 13 year old stepson refusing to come home. We've gone through all the court proceedings, everything else, there's been enforcement actions and everything else.
Dr. Laura
Home. What are you calling home? Does he have a dad? Does he go back and forth?
Keith
It's 50. 50. It's 50. 50.
Dr. Laura
Well then he does. It doesn't have. Then he doesn't have a home. He has two places to visit.
Keith
True.
Dr. Laura
So let's use the words which really give truth to his experience. So how long have you been stepping?
Keith
Ten years.
Dr. Laura
And what happened to mom and dad? What happened to the original family? Why'd they break up?
Keith
Mom was taken, but taken for granted, if you know what I mean.
Dr. Laura
No, I don't.
Keith
Not, not, not appreciated. She was expected to be basically Cinderella while working a full time job. And so she got what does Cinderella do? The dishes, all the laundry, cleans the house and everything else. Meanwhile, meanwhile, you know, dad expects her to go get and you know, accelerate the career and everything else.
Dr. Laura
Okay. Did he have a career?
Keith
Yes, he's a, he's an engineer. And do you work for a local company? Yes, yes I do. I'm an airline pilot.
Dr. Laura
Oh, does she have a career?
Keith
She, she was an airline pilot as well. But, but listening to you, we have two young kids at home and nine years ago when we had Our other kid, she's a stay at home mom with our nine year old and our five year old.
Dr. Laura
Yeah. All right. So the son has been going back and forth and now he does not want to come to your house. Is that correct?
Keith
That is correct. And it's over.
Dr. Laura
Kids, did dad marry and make any more kids?
Keith
Dad is remarried and supposedly he's happy and everything else, but he continues to fight for 10 years.
Dr. Laura
My question was so. That wasn't my question.
Keith
He is remarried. He is remarried.
Dr. Laura
Does he have new kids?
Keith
No, he married. Into where? They had two teenagers and they've moved out now.
Dr. Laura
How long have they been out?
Keith
But he doesn't have any new kids, so five years.
Dr. Laura
Okay. Okay. All right. So my question is that so when he's at his dad's house, he's the only one there and he's special and they didn't make new kids, but when he comes to your house, you made a new kid and he's not as special. I just like to look at the finite things which kids think about. Sometimes we adults don't think about it, but they do. So I was just looking for a difference there. And the difference is he's special over there, and he has his dad, and boys like to have a relationship with their dad. And you are his mom's husband.
Keith
Yes, and he calls me Dad. I coach a soccer team and everything else.
Dr. Laura
I have a feeling you are terrific at what you do. I'm just looking for the finesse points that impact a kid. Okay, so he doesn't want to come to your house, and what does he express to explain that?
Keith
So two things. I am treated differently. So there's four years between each kid. So we have 13, nine and five. I am treated differently. And then we live in Kansas, so I sold my house.
Dr. Laura
Of course he treats you differently. You're not his dad. You don't have the authority in his mind that his dad does. It's nice that he calls you dad, but you're not.
Keith
He has one, but I treat him the same.
Dr. Laura
It doesn't matter. You're not his dad. I have a feeling you are an extremely nice guy and put in a lot of very good effort, but this is a kid's mind.
Keith
Mm. And 13 years old going through a lot of changes.
Dr. Laura
Yes, but he doesn't treat his dad that way because that's his dad. Dad. So frankly, if he doesn't want to come to your house and he'd rather stay with dad. Dad. Let him stay with dad. Dad, please.
Keith
Right.
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Keith
What do I tell my kids?
Dr. Laura
The truth. They can go over and visit.
Keith
So, Dr. Laura, here's the thing. I want to go to Urban Air. I want to go here. I want to go there. I want to see my brothers. But by golly, mom, you better take me here because I want to see my brothers and you better take me.
Dr. Laura
I don't know what you're talking about right now. I'm not following it. I'm not following what you're saying.
Keith
Okay, so. So what he wants to do is he wants to go to these places that his dad will not take him to in order to go see his brothers. He said, I will not, I will not be any place without you in public. I want to see my brothers. So you need to bring my brothers to me. And so our response is you need to come home and sit down and play video games and hang out with stem here. Stop.
Dr. Laura
Stop. I don't think you are at all either one of you thinking about his mind. You're only thinking about your needs and the kid you made. So you're going to have to yank this back. Okay, you guys divorced. Whoever you divorced remarried, in your case, made more kid. He has to go back and forth and not have a home. And you're begrudging him laying down one rule over which he's trying to have some control over his life. He had no control over all of you doing all of this. Unstability, instability in his life. You all contribute to this. I have a rule. Nobody follows it. But I have a rule. No dating, no marrying. When there's a divorce and there are minor children. 70% of marriages with a situation like yours end up in divorce, which damages the kids some more. So kids have no control. He's trying to exert some control. Instead of getting huffy about it, you ought to think about how to accommodate some of it because he deserves it.
Keith
So do you give in to his wishes. And it's on his terms.
Dr. Laura
Sometimes he has to give in to all your wishes on your terms. He had to do that since all this divorce and marriage again take place in new baby, at least at his dad's house. They didn't make a new kid to focus in on and be all giggly about. You guys did that. Which put him back farther. And for the life of me, I don't get why none of you adults understand that you get angry when the kid wants to have something on his own terms. Gosh darn, nothing in his life is on his terms. You all made sure of that.
Keith
I 100% agree with you. And I see your perspective there. I never thought of it that way.
Dr. Laura
Thank you. So what I'd like you to do is sit down with him and his mom for a chat. And you can do this in a restaurant over hamburgers and say, okay, I've been thinking about what's happened to you in your life where you don't really have a home. I call it a home. But in reality, you're visiting us in our home. Then you're visiting your dad in his home, and you really don't have a home. And I never really thought about that. So you'd like to have some things the way you want. Well, in life we can't have everything the way we want. But let's talk about some of the things we might work out. He'll be more reasonable when his pain and his feelings and his perspective are acknowledged and respected. And then you're offering negotiation. It's going to calm him down and make him negotiate because now he has some power. Now, if you don't give a kid like this power, they find it in other ways. Drugs, crime. You get my drift?
Keith
Yes, I do.
Dr. Laura
That's most often true in male persons for obvious reasons, called testosterone.
Keith
Well, I guess my wife and I have to have a conversation.
Dr. Laura
You have to pull it all together.
Keith
And we have a pull it all together. Oh, no. Exactly. Yeah.
Dr. Laura
I don't want you to be near tears. Okay? You have to pull it together first, then do it.
Keith
No, I understand you, Dr. Laura.
Dr. Laura
Okay. It's going to be okay. It's going to be okay. My instinct tells me if you handle it the way I'm suggesting, it's going to be okay.
Keith
Okay. Well, like I said, if I have to sit down, come up with a new game plan and. And go from there, and we can. And we can move forward and we'll get them back home, back into a loving Family.
Dr. Laura
Stop saying that. Everything else, stop saying that. This is your fantasy that you have in your head. He doesn't see this as his loving home. He lost that long time ago. Stop saying this is his home. Stop it.
Keith
Okay. A safe place to visit that's loving and caring.
Dr. Laura
Thank you. Especially the word safe. I love it. Beautiful.
Keith
Not just home, but a safe place that is loving and caring. A safe place to come and enjoy and explore life and expand life.
Dr. Laura
Yes. By job. I think you've got it now.
Keith
But I, but I, but I agree with you, Dr. Laura. Definitely not a home. It's a home for my two younger ones because they live here 24, 7. And so. No, and I agree with you. He goes back and forth week on, week off. And so his visitation, it's not homes. It is bouncing and it's not stable.
Dr. Laura
Right. I mean, I would hate that. I would hate to be bounced around every week.
Keith
Okay. You gave me a whole new different perspective. Longtime listener. Years, Years, years, decades. Thank you for taking my call. You have given me a new perspective, not only for this situation, but just in life in general.
Dr. Laura
Oh, that's kind of.
Keith
Thank you for taking my call.
Dr. Laura
Happy to help you. Call me back anytime.
Keith
I will do. Thank you very much.
Dr. Laura
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Podcast Information:
In the March 25, 2025 episode of Dr. Laura Call of the Day, Dr. Laura Schlessinger addresses the complex challenges associated with step-parenting. Drawing from her extensive experience in offering no-nonsense advice infused with ethics and personal responsibility, Dr. Laura delves into the emotional intricacies that step-parents and their blended families often navigate.
The episode features a heartfelt call from Keith, a stepfather grappling with his 13-year-old stepson's refusal to return to his household. Keith outlines the longstanding struggle:
Keith (01:22): "So, we have a 13-year-old stepson refusing to come home. We've gone through all the court proceedings, everything else, there's been enforcement actions and everything else."
He elaborates on the family's dynamics, highlighting that his stepson alternates between his biological father's home and his own:
Dr. Laura (01:36): "Home. What are you calling home? Does he have a dad? Does he go back and forth?"
Keith (01:43): "It's 50. 50. It's 50. 50."
Keith explains that the stepson splits his time evenly between his father’s custody and his own home, leading to feelings of instability and favoritism perceived by the child.
Dr. Laura probes deeper to understand the family background:
Dr. Laura (02:02): "So how long have you been stepping?"
Keith (02:02): "Ten years."
Through his responses, it becomes clear that the divorce stemmed from the biological mother's feeling of being "taken for granted" and overburdened with household responsibilities, leading to familial discord. Keith notes:
Keith (02:15): "She was expected to be basically Cinderella while working a full-time job... Meanwhile, dad expects her to go get and accelerate the career and everything else."
This historical context provides insight into the existing tensions and the stepson's current emotional state.
Dr. Laura identifies key issues affecting the stepson:
Dual Homes and Lack of Stability:
Perceived Favoritism and Special Treatment:
Authority and Emotional Connection:
Dr. Laura (05:45): "Of course, he treats you differently. You're not his dad. You don't have the authority in his mind that his dad does."
Dr. Laura offers a multi-faceted approach to address Keith's predicament:
Acknowledge the Child's Feelings:
Dr. Laura (13:00): "He deserves it."
Create a Safe and Stable Environment:
Empower the Child Through Negotiation:
Dr. Laura (09:50): "The truth. They can go over and visit."
Open Family Dialogue:
Dr. Laura (12:58): "So what I'd like you to do is sit down with him and his mom for a chat."
Avoid Forcing a 'Perfect Home' Narrative:
Dr. Laura (15:18): "Stop saying that. Everything else, stop saying that."
Addressing Long-Term Emotional Health:
Dr. Laura (14:12): "Now, if you don't give a kid like this power, they find it in other ways. Drugs, crime."
Keith expresses gratitude for Dr. Laura's perspective, acknowledging that it has shifted his understanding of the situation.
Keith (16:23): "You gave me a whole new different perspective. Longtime listener. Years, years, years, decades. Thank you for taking my call."
Keith concludes the call with a renewed sense of direction, planning to engage in meaningful conversations with both his stepson and his wife to implement Dr. Laura's advice. He recognizes the importance of creating a loving and safe environment for his stepson rather than insisting on a singular notion of "home."
Keith (15:56): "A safe place to visit that is loving and caring. A safe place to come and enjoy and explore life and expand life."
Dr. Laura reassures him of the positive outcome if his approach is followed:
Dr. Laura (16:49): "It's going to be okay."
In this episode, Dr. Laura Schlessinger provides compassionate and practical advice to Keith, a stepfather struggling with his stepson's reluctance to embrace their blended family. By emphasizing the importance of understanding the child's perspective, fostering open communication, and creating a stable environment, Dr. Laura offers a roadmap for step-parents facing similar challenges. Keith's experience underscores the profound impact that empathetic and strategic parenting can have on a child's emotional well-being and family harmony.
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This episode serves as an insightful guide for step-parents navigating the sensitive dynamics of blended families, highlighting the necessity of empathy, stability, and open dialogue in fostering healthy relationships with stepchildren.