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Duncan Trussell
Welcome to the dtfh. Hello. Oh, my God. What an episode we have for you today. This covers the whole gamut of everything that I'm interested in. Spirituality, politics and mind control. And who better to have this conversation with than Robert Ryan? Robert Ryan is an artist and one of the coolest artists I've ever met. If you're lucky enough to live in New Jersey, you could actually get a tattoo from this incredible human at Electric Light Tattoo Studio. But he's not just an artist, he's not just an occultist. He's not just a shaivite. He's not just a scholar when it comes to the esoteric. He's also a musician. So I hope, my dear friends living in Asheville, that you will go and see him perform. He's going to be at the Ayur Prana Listening room in Asheville November 22nd. And he's also coming to Kosm, Alex and Alison Gray's place, December 5th. All the links you need to find Robert Ryan are gonna be down there. So here we go, everybody. Welcome back to the dtfh. Robert Ryan. Robert Ryan. We do need to know. We're just curious to know why were you found holding binoculars and outside of the home of Jessica French?
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Robert Ryan
Well, I was bird watching, then all of a sudden the house caught on fire right next to where I was standing. And I happen to have an accelerant that I always carry with me.
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Duncan Trussell
How you doing?
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Robert Ryan
I'm doing well. How are you?
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Duncan Trussell
I'm good, man. You seem to be, as always, traveling the world, doing meditation retreats. Where are you at now? Are you? And this is like something that is really weird when it comes to a spiritual practice is in the modern world we have this conceptualization of progress that seems to not align with spiritual progress. Do you know what I'm talking about? Like, some. Some days I just feel like, what a waste of fucking time. Why did I even bother with that shit at all? And some days you're like, I think I'm in the precipice of enlightenment both days. You're a fool.
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Robert Ryan
Yeah, well, when you realize that there's really nothing to be gained, that that becomes kind of your. Your guiding star, you know that actually you're like refining rather than trying to attempt or get somewhere, you know, like the path is always unfolding, you know, you're always halfway there. You're always halfway there no matter what, you know? So, yeah, when you become comfortable with that and then you can start to peel stuff away and then the refining is actually what the path becomes. Rather than, like, striving for something, because when you're striving for something, it gets corrupted. Usually there's something in the way, you know, like, why. Why do you need this? Why? Why? What. What is enlightenment going to bring to you? You know, are you going to be able to, like, talk better on the podcast or, you know, like, be a better artist or anything like that? All those things hopefully do come from some sense of progress as the word we used earlier, but they shouldn't be the goal. I don't think.
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Duncan Trussell
Those words you just uttered in the beginning. If you want to look at modernity as a religion, the words nothing to gain. That's blasphemy to say that in the modern world. Nothing to gain. Oh, we're so programmed. We hate that idea. Everything's transactional. You want something out of everything. And what I love about those words is it underlines something that is inside of everyone's heart. This itchy kind of hunger for something more than this.
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Robert Ryan
Yeah. It takes you completely out of the moment, Right?
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Duncan Trussell
Yeah.
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Robert Ryan
When. But when there's nothing to be gained by everything to be learned or everything to be experienced, you know, like, it just leaves you with the. You know, the potential for just about anything, you know, and, like, the creative capacity of the entire universe is. Is at your. Within your breath, you know, so, like, once you let go of, like, your ideas, your preconceived notions of what the spiritual path is or what spirituality is, how many neck beads that you wear or how long your beard is or what color robe you're gonna wear, all those things, all that stuff gets in the way at some point, and you have to. That's the final renunciation, you know, Like, I've been reading a lot about this lately. I've been reading the Avaduta Gita, it's called. Which is the Gita, the Song of Dattatreya. Do you know who Datta Trey is? He's the three head. You've probably seen pictures of him. He has three heads. Human, just with three heads. And it's to.
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Duncan Trussell
I'd remember him.
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Robert Ryan
Yeah. If you came across him, if you saw him at Arby's or something. He's the guy with the three heads. Yeah. It's to symbolize the. The yana, the kriya and the icha, the. You know, the. The. All the. The trimorties, the threes.
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Duncan Trussell
Explain that. Some people won't know what that even means. Like, it's cool that you're explaining that with something equally esoteric. That people are gonna be like, what the fuck? Oh, the trimurtis. What do you. What. What is that? What is. What do you mean?
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Robert Ryan
To put it simply, I think is like creation sustaining and destruction.
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Duncan Trussell
God. Okay.
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Robert Ryan
Those three forces exist in just about everything we do.
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Duncan Trussell
Yes.
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Robert Ryan
You know, it happens in our breath. You know, we breathe in, we hold it, it collapses.
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Duncan Trussell
Right.
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Robert Ryan
You know, we get. We were born, we live, we die.
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Duncan Trussell
Yes.
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Robert Ryan
You know, you can follow that thread through just about every mode of material existence.
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Duncan Trussell
Yeah.
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Robert Ryan
So the Avaduta Gita is explaining what avadut is. And an avadut is someone who isn't. Who's reached a completely different state of understanding where none of the things in this world have any kind of impact, don't make any sense. They're just living outside. Completely, actually, completely living inside. They're having this internal experience. And I've met some people like this, you know, in India a couple of times I've sat with abidouts. And they're completely. It's not speaking any language, communicating in completely abstract terms, but the creative capacity is always there. And they're doing amazing things. Amazing feats of strength or just, you know, it's just. It's not of this world, although they're in this world.
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Duncan Trussell
The closest I can come to being an. How do you say it?
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Robert Ryan
Avidud.
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Duncan Trussell
An avidud is once you become experienced using, like, LSD so that you're used to what's happening. I don't. I'm sure you've been through the LSD phase. Anyone out listening has been through the LSD phase. You get to a point where you can really. You're like, nothing's gonna shock you that's happening during that experience. And if you're around people who are taking it for the first time, you will seem supernatural in your ability to maintain what appears to be complete sobriety. Even though walls are melting around you, you're in a completely expanded state of consciousness. But when you look at the human experience itself as another psychedelic experience, it's longer. Obviously, it's a very long trip, but a trip nonetheless. And it sounds like these people are people who are able to, in the midst of the ultimate hallucinogenic experience, see past that. And there's a kind of sobriety in what you're describing.
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Robert Ryan
Yeah. And living, like, the best moments of their lives, completely enjoy, you know, even though, like, they might be covered in their own feces and spit and, like, you know, completely haven't showered in months or, you know, haven't eaten. But they're without needs, you know, and there's an efficiency that comes without needs, that goes beyond our conceptual way of living, you know.
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Duncan Trussell
Well, you know what? If I'm around one of them, I'm going to have a need for them to take a shower. That's, that's all other stuff you mentioned. Fine, but come on, here's some wet wipes.
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Robert Ryan
And they might honor that for you, but maybe not.
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Duncan Trussell
Well, what I really love about this possibility is that it is revolutionary. I was explaining to my kid this morning how in our world the way it is right now, if your shoes get a little worn down, you buy new shoes. If your shirt has a rip in it, you buy a new shirt. If the toaster breaks, you throw it away, you get a new toaster. And how all of this is a result of businesses wanting to make more money. Because if we learn to sew, if we learn to take care of our shoes, if we have lower our standards regarding the wear and tear on the clothes we wear, that equals trillions of dollars that CEOs will lose. And so we have been conditioned to believe that a sign of health or things are going good for you is everything's new. You're wearing everything that is freshly bought. And so what you're describing is the arrow in the heart of that. This episode of the DTFH is supported by my friends at Quint's. You know, I live here in Texas, and as a never nude who loves to wear winter clothes, that's a little challenging for me because tiny Texas clings to summer like a. Like a malarial dog clings to an old bacterial soaked tennis ball it found in the burning mouth of a flame demon. It won't let go, but it will eventually. It can't hold onto that ball. And soon fall will come to Texas. I know it will. And when it does, you better believe. I'm heading over to Quint's and I'm picking up a beautiful organic cotton fisherman cruise sweater. I don't want to get into it. Don't get me started. I'm sorry, Quince. I am going to get started. Do you know, I don't know what's going on in the world, guys. I don't know why it is that brands have got to put their fucking name all over everything. I just want a nice, normal one color long sleeve sweater that will cling to my body, that will hold me like the embrace that my mother used to give me. And I could think of my mommy all the time. Yeah, I don't Know why it is that you go to a store and some brand has splattered their stupid logo all over what could have been a perfectly good sweater? This is why Quints is my go to normal clothes. Kind of clothes Jack Kerouac might have worn in some smoky jazz bar. Not something graffitied on by a corporation. Also, it's not just incredible clothes. They've got everything you need. Some great cookware, they've got it. Travel accessories, they got it. You don't really need to go anywhere but Quint's. You could delete the entire Internet. Just leave Quint's layer up this fall with pieces that feel as good as they look. Go to quince.com dunkin for free shipping on your order and 365 day returns. Now available in Canada too. That's Q-U-I-N c e.com Duncan Free shipping and 365 day returns. Quints.com Duncan thank you. Quince Mode of being, which I think is a huge part of modernity. You know, you feel ashamed if you, I mean if you made your own clothes. When I was in school and there were kids whose parents would sew their clothes for them. I grew up in North Carolina. You were made fun of mercilessly. You know, if you, if you had, if your clothes were sewn up by your sweet mom who couldn't afford to buy new clothes, brutally attacked. You know, it is viciously. It's horrible. And so what you're describing, I think is, you know, everyone these days especially, what do we do? What do we do? We start killing CEOs. What do we do? Kill a CEO? Talk about a bunch of fucking heads. Another fucking head's going to grow on that corporation.
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Robert Ryan
There's already one growing in place of it before it's even gone.
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Duncan Trussell
That's right. Yeah, that's right. So you see what I'm saying, right? What you're describing isn't just some kind of passive way of evading the grind of day to day life. It's literally a recipe for complete transformation of society. If enough people began to live in a place of non addiction to material stuff.
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Robert Ryan
Yeah, of course. But also within that they kind of advise against it. That the Avadude's life is only for the Avadut.
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Duncan Trussell
Of course now it's a fucking club.
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Robert Ryan
Well, the thing is our civilization would stop. Because it's not like they're having kids. They're not householders, they're not running countries. They're just acting within this world as example of what you can be and what can be done when you don't. When you're efficient enough in your life that you don't have needs and you don't rely on the state, you don't rely on the family. You don't rely on the temples they don't go to. They're not like hanging out in temples or doing rituals even. They're beyond that. And they're beyond. You know, a big part of the Dharma is to transcend illusion. In their world, there's not even illusion. Illusion's just, you know, mixed in with the rest of everything else that they're trans. You know what I mean?
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Duncan Trussell
Yeah.
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Robert Ryan
So they're not even tripping about that. Where a lot of people, you know, it's their goal to, like, get past the illusion in this world, which, if you can even identify the illusion, you're already off on to a good start, I believe.
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Duncan Trussell
Well, identify the illusion. What would it be?
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Robert Ryan
That you're this body, you know, that. That, you know, like, that you're made. You know, this. This is who your. This is your true reality.
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Duncan Trussell
Yeah.
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Robert Ryan
This is the ultimate reality that you can one click a new shirt when you need one, you know, or, you know, like all those things, you know, you can go on and on. On about it. You know, you can work your entire life to get a great car, to drive that great car to your job.
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Duncan Trussell
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You're so. It's like. But, you know, it's like when we're talking about renunciation, I've brushed up against this idea here and there. It's like the physical renunciation is just the beginning phase of the thing. The physical renunciation is actually. What you're talking about is the ultimate renunciation, which is to let go completely of all of these conceptualizations that have been taught to you since you were capable of understanding English or whatever your language may be.
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Robert Ryan
I mean, then you renounce that even you're renouncing being renounced.
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Duncan Trussell
Right.
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Robert Ryan
Because you're living in a different state of consciousness completely.
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Duncan Trussell
Yeah, yeah. And that. So, you know, like when in Buddhism, when they, you know, you. When they were talking about leave your family, forget it. Forget the whole thing. There's lots of ways to look at that. You can look at it as physically abandoning your family, which you can leave your family and still be with your fucking family in your head. But this is actually what happens if you start recognizing that you're in a. This is kind of a dream, and it's a very convincing dream. But it's still a dream. Like, you know, you're gonna wake up. Like, in this case, like, death would be that moment, but still a dream. And just saying that out loud is. It kind of fills me with a little bit of guilt. You know, I want to believe in this all the way.
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Robert Ryan
Well, you know, I don't think there's anything wrong with believing in your dream either, you know, and you can't shun the dream. Like, we were talking about renunciation and, you know, we can. We're going into different schools of thought, you know, of like Tantra and Veda and things like that. But Bhagavad Gita warns us, Krishna warns Arjuna about false renunciation because that's what he tries to do on the battlefield.
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Duncan Trussell
Yeah, right.
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Robert Ryan
You know, he's like, I'm out. I'm not doing this.
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Duncan Trussell
I'm not going into the woods.
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Robert Ryan
Yeah. And he's like, no, you're a warrior. This is what you need to do. Just the way we. We're householders. I'm a tattoo artist, you're a comedian. We do our duties, but the awareness is where the renunciation comes into play. You know, if you're a comedian and you have complete awareness of what you're doing when you're on stage performing comedy, or if I'm doing a tattoo and I'm completely present in that moment of doing this tattoo for the person, we're gonna get the highest standard.
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Duncan Trussell
That's right. Well, yeah, that's right. You just have to say bye. Bye. Like, that's the thing is, like, when I'm on stage, I can't be on stage. I can't be there if I'm there at all. That produces latency. And by me being there, I mean there's some plan, there's some, like, goal. There's something I want. There's a place I want to hit or something. Any of those things, they get wiped.
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Robert Ryan
Out immediately as soon as you're on stage.
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Duncan Trussell
Right. Gone in the back. I mean, in the. If they're not gone, then, you know, that's because it can create this cascading.
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Robert Ryan
That's when you bomb.
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Duncan Trussell
Yeah, that's when you start bombing is because you're like, oh, shit, I'm here. Oh, no, I didn't go away all the way. But it's when you get on stage and walk off stage and, like, there's a you that. Right before you got on stage, there's a you when you get off stage, it's when you're doing art Same situation where you just look up and you're like, hours have passed. Where the fuck were you? There's a thing there that you made, but you weren't there at all. Like.
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Robert Ryan
But you were, right. Like, you were really there. Your mind, your thoughts weren't, like, drifting, you know, like, that's the way a lot of people think. Like, you know, by thinking something through that you're being present, but maybe not so much, you know, by experiencing it. That's when you're being present.
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Duncan Trussell
Yes.
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Robert Ryan
If your thoughts are getting in the way of it, then how present are you?
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Duncan Trussell
Well, look like, you know, let me just pull all this back to the federal government shutdown. I know you love talking about these things, this. But I think there is a weird parallel, which is like, there always is.
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Robert Ryan
Yeah.
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Duncan Trussell
If you look at the federal government as the mind and you look at the country as the heart, we have the severe imbalance right now between the head and the heart, which most people do. Most people. I've said this on the podcast a few times, but one of the most ironic things I ever saw was this. During some previous government shutdown, there's a dumpster in a national park. Trash is piled up around this dumpster. And the reporter is like, what are we gonna do about this trash? The federal government is shut down.
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Robert Ryan
You couldn't take it out yourself, right?
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Duncan Trussell
No one can. Only the federal government can take that trash out of the national park. Certainly no one could do it for free. No one's gonna do it for no reason, for just to get trash out. No one has time for that shit. I wanted to go on a fucking hike. I'm not a garbage man. And so the mind seemingly plays the same trick on the heart, which is it convinces you that without it, you are fucked. Like, your thoughts, your planning, your strategies, your identification with whoever the fuck you think you are, your politics, the sports team you like, this is the. The penultimate state. And all the other stuff, the feeling stuff, the whatever stuff that your heart is always, like, calling you to. It's. Come on, don't go there. Sentimentality is suicide. Don't be some. Whatever. You're a man. Don't listen to that shit. Even though it's somehow like it's the undiscovered country, it's this beautiful terrain that, like, is just always there. This is what you're pointing towards in the description of these enlightened beings, you know?
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Robert Ryan
And who's talking you out of taking that garbage out? Or who's talking you out of, you know, like, Helping out. It's the ego, you know, it's all. It's the list, it's the pairs of opposites that get in the way of everything. Republican, Democrat, left, right, black, white, you know, it's the pair of opposites, you know, and the avidud doesn't care about the opposites. It cares about the unity and the unity of the heart, the mind and the soul, the unity of the creation. Destruction, you know, disillusion, all those things. Once you cut one part out of it, it's out of balance. And when you said it's in balance earlier, that's exactly what our problem is. And you can trace that, right, to the most vital force in your body, which is your breath, right?
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Duncan Trussell
And most people don't even fucking God, you probably have a good breath practice. But my God, sometimes when I'm like, just. I'm like, why? Why the fuck am I breathing like this, man? You know what I mean? Like, you look at your breath, you're not taking deep breaths, you're like, what am I doing here? Like, why am I breathing like I'm being stalked in the woods right now? I'm at the airport.
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Robert Ryan
But the ego is stalking us in the woods. It's stalking us in our bedroom, it's stalking us, you know, at work, it's stalking us in our families. It gets in the way. So, yeah, and it is a response. And I've heard about this before. I'm not sure if this is how factual this is, but the whole idea of us doing that is like a reaction from the. From the floods, you know, from the time of the floods. Like when we. When we catch our breath, when we do that thing that. That's like a genetic response from the time of the flooding.
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Duncan Trussell
Oh, you mean the great event. The great event that is coming again.
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Robert Ryan
It's happened in every one of the books once already. Why not happen again?
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Duncan Trussell
Well, I mean, yeah, I mean, it's happening in all the fucking books. It's like all the ancient sites out there just like, clear. This is another thing that points towards the sort of absurdity of the way we're currently living, which is the Earth is scattered with ruins from cities that were massive and we barely understand who they were. All we know is there's certain things that seem to appear across the planet. The purse thing that's in all the petroglyphs, the recurring figures, that's all we know. And we don't think about it that much. We don't think about the fact that that means there was an Interconnected global fucking community that is gone. Gone beyond gone. God, I've been showing my kids. Well, they asked to see it. It's not like I'm sit down and watch this, but like lava. There's all these YouTube videos of lava flowing over Coca Cola cans. And it's like, dude, that Coca Cola can, that's gone now. It's going to be an igneous rock. Maybe at some point someone will be like, what the fuck is this? But like, when geo. When like huge disasters happen, glaciation, volcanic eruptions, whatever the fuck was there, it's just the hard drives erased. We don't want to believe that that would ever happen again. Even though we're not even close to coming up with a plan for meteor impacts, sea level rising, pole shifts, supernovas, micronovas or whatever. We don't. We just hang out in this very fragile civilization acting like we're going to be around forever.
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Robert Ryan
Yeah. And could there ever really even be a plan for something like that? You know, like, how do you plan for that? Go underground, just breathe, you know, like that's the plan, you know, get right with yourself, you know, that's the only plan that you can actually commit to and carry out. And the thing is, you know, I hate to be doom and gloom, because it's not about that, because we're all gonna die no matter what. Every one of us. That's the one thing we have in common. So why not try to get it right now while you're here?
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Duncan Trussell
Yeah, see that, that thing you just said, not trying to be doom and gloom. That is another sign of how fucking nuts everyone is right now, because you have to preface a statement of fact is that, look, I don't want to be doom and gloom, but water's wet. You know what I mean? We don't want to admit fucking water's wet in this case. Why are you being so. Why are you so negative, calling water wet? You know what I mean? That's how imbalanced we've become. I guess in this case, if we're talking about those heads, we don't really like, we're becoming increasingly ahistoric and we certainly don't want to look into the impending oblivion waiting all of us. And so we just want to imagine this silly phase in planetary history is permanent and it's producing mad maniacs.
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Robert Ryan
It creates a mania, you know, when you deny death, it creates a mania, you know, and like. And it's the one undeniable thing, you know, it's like it's there's no one that could prove any other way, I think. But what dies?
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Duncan Trussell
Well, you. You just come down, man. I think it's sweet. Who hasn't wanted to re up on ecstasy? I think it's sweet. These transhumanists are no different than anyone having a great ecstasy trip. Or like, come on, let's take another one. It's like they just want to, you know, increase the length of the trip. That's all. They just want to stay high. I get it. I've been there. I've been there. You don't want to come down, you know, and people who are afraid of death are just people who don't want to come down.
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Robert Ryan
As we know, what goes up must come down always.
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Duncan Trussell
And God help you, by the way, if you figured out how to not come down. Jesus Christ. There's been many a time where I've been having a great trip and I'm like, man, we got to take more. I got to stay like this forever. But, dude, what a fucked up situation you'd be in if you did manage to stay high forever. It would get old pretty soon, you know? And I worry about these transhumanists because I worry, like, they're gonna figure it out. They are gonna figure out how to live for thousands of years and like, 300 years in, they're gonna be like, dude, this was a fuck up. This sucks. I'm so over this.
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Robert Ryan
Well, there's a new cottage industry for you, you know, the healer to the transhumanists.
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Duncan Trussell
The what?
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Robert Ryan
The healer to the transhumanists. You know, like, it's called a bullet.
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Duncan Trussell
I'm just kidding. Transhumanists out there. I wouldn't mind tacking on a couple hundred years of the old, getting the hair back.
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Robert Ryan
You're gonna have the transhumanists beating down your door now, man.
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Duncan Trussell
Why would you say that? I love life, by the way. I mean, I think it's like, if you don't want to, you know, people don't realize their fear of death is. You know, I've said this before. Fear of death is a love of life. You know, it's just that it's the dark mask the love of life wears. You're afraid to die because you love your life, but you're so fixated on the fact it's gonna end, you can't enjoy it. That's so sad.
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Robert Ryan
Yeah, no, totally. That's like, you know, you're counting down the days. You're counting down the. I only have a couple years left with my family. You know, it's like, who thinks like that? And if you do, you're fucked, you know?
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Duncan Trussell
Oh, God, you're so fucked. You can't enjoy it at all. All the fucking, like all those beautiful moments. All those beautiful moments just covered in a cloud of psychic flatulence that doesn't have to be there. It's like. But I get it, man. There's so many times, first day of vacation, my dumb ass is inevitably like, be on the plane, flying back pretty soon, four more days. It's so sad. It's so sad. But this, you know, this is like the shitty show that the mind is selling tickets to, you know, it's like it's the same show we keep buying tickets to the same garbage show.
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Robert Ryan
Well, it's. It's such a groove. It's such a, like, fixed groove that we're into. Like, by going on vacation, we've broken our pattern that we're so used to that. That's one of the first reactions. Like, when is this gonna end? You know, when do I go? When do I get back to the couch? You know, and once you live through a couple days, usually if you're not completely out of your mind, you can. You can get into the groove. A new groove, you know, and a new, new sense of direction. But until then, you're like clinging to all the old things. And that's where the mania sets in.
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Duncan Trussell
Yeah, yeah. Just, you know, that, you know, it shows up. I don't mean to keep going back to politics, but it shows up in like, the political slogans of the last election. We're not going back. Or make America great again.
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Robert Ryan
Yeah.
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Duncan Trussell
You know what I mean? It's like we're not going back there fixated on the fear of the past. Or we are going back there because this here is fucked. And both of these are denying that. This here. First of all, there's no going back anyway. You can't go back.
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Robert Ryan
There's no going back.
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Duncan Trussell
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Robert Ryan
The mental ghetto is as treacherous as the physical ghetto.
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Duncan Trussell
Yes, that's it. But it's real hard to let go, man. That's the other thing addiction is. Addiction is addiction. And I am addicted to things being a certain way. I need things to be a certain way, man. You know what I mean?
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Robert Ryan
Yeah. I'm not above any of the things we're talking about. And I'm also contributing in all the things we're talking about. But I Do try to bring that awareness into my life. And when we're talking about going back to something, going back to a perceived reality with rose colored glasses that never existed in the first place is one thing. Trying to get back to a sense of simplicity where like maybe the ancients may, may have practiced some of these things could definitely enrich your life.
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Duncan Trussell
Yes.
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Robert Ryan
You know.
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Duncan Trussell
Yeah. Just though you're not, don't wait for the fucking government to do that for you. It's never gonna happen.
- [37:09]
Robert Ryan
They're never gonna do, they're never gonna do anything for you.
- [37:12]
Duncan Trussell
Never gonna take it.
- [37:13]
Robert Ryan
They're gonna take as much as they can from you and they'll, they'll wrap it up in a slogan, just. Yeah, they always do, you know, and like, you know, and again, I'm not an anarchist, you know, I like order, you know, I like, you know, being able to, you know, not fear. You know, like if I'm going to go to the store that I'm about to get shot for carrying out, you know. But that being said, you know, I'm also not relying on the government, you know, to answer my questions.
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Duncan Trussell
Well, in general, in general, just statistically, when you leave the store, you're not gonna get shot, but because of the, because of these motherfuckers, a lot of us feel like that when we leave the goddamn store. A lot of us feel like that all the time, looking around all the time. Is that a fucking Marxist? Is that a fucking fascist? What's happening? And it's like nothing. That's the great tragedy again, I'm not discounting. There are things happening, but in general, in general, like right now, whoever's listening to this, I pray that you're not being dragged into a van right now. And if you are, well, thank you for listening to dtfh. But you know what I mean, man.
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Robert Ryan
This, the fear velocity.
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Duncan Trussell
The fear velocity is high right now. And what I love about what you're talking about and what I hate saying this, it's a new age term these ancient technologies offer us is a braking system to slow down that velocity of fear in ways that I understand why people would think they're having mystical experiences. It's not mystical. You're just slowing down a little bit. But when you get into this stuff, you're like, oh my God. The synchronicities, the. Oh, but it's like, you know what you're experiencing, just what it's like to be normal and not freaked out all.
- [39:20]
Robert Ryan
Day long and think about like what was fast paced 3,000 years ago compared to now, where we're like, you know, we're accessing images upon images upon images, you know, like William Burroughs said, images, millions of images, you know, like. Yeah, it's just we're living in that deluge right now, you know, that flood of just information, maybe that's the new, you know, end time storm. We're just gonna drown in information and not in actual water.
- [39:50]
Duncan Trussell
It's cocaine. It's just the new cocaine is information. Like, everyone's doing big fat rails of it all the time. And, like, because we're, you know, like any other great drug, you get a tolerance. And so once you get a tolerance for apocalyptic events, it's like, you know what? I think I need three apocalyptic events per week, please. Two just isn't scratching the itch anym.
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Robert Ryan
Then you get in the dark Internet and then you're. Then you're hitting the crack pipe.
- [40:16]
Duncan Trussell
Here we go. Here we go. Comet atlas. Oh, my God. Those robots can do backflips. Oh, my God. The sun's not acting normal. Something's wrong with the sun. Oh, my God. Drones over nutrients. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Why am I shitting blood? You know, why does my nose randomly start bleeding? Why is my body aching? What's going on? I'm taking the vitamins. You know, this is. The state of modern humans is on one level, colors are still working, gravity seems to be intact. On another level, we are for sure living in an apocalypse of sorts. And it's just weird because the apocalypse seems to be happening in our devices more than it's happening around us.
- [41:10]
Robert Ryan
Definitely. If not in the device, it's amplified through the device.
- [41:14]
Duncan Trussell
Ah, there you go. Yeah, there you go. Yeah, there you go. Apocalypse amplifiers.
- [41:19]
Robert Ryan
Yeah, we each got one in our pocket.
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Duncan Trussell
It's just the craziest shit. To think that these things that were heralded as, like, this is going to be Star Trek, man. This is going to be the thing that unifies the planet. This is going to be the thing where everyone has access to the Library of Alexandria times a million. This is going to be the thing that's going to transform the way we work, give us more time with our families. It's crazy that all these things seem to have done is just made us exponentially more anxious. That's it.
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Robert Ryan
Yeah, because it took us out. It took us out of the moment. You know, it takes us out of the moment. You know, you're, you know, I do it online. You know, I'm standing in line waiting to check out. I look at my phone oh, dude, you know why? Why? You know, it hurts. Yeah, but it doesn't have to. Doesn't have to hurt. You know, there's, you know, like you can, you might meet your best friend, next person line. You could meet your worst enemy too. But that's, you know, that's the existence that we, that we're participating in.
- [42:35]
Duncan Trussell
I'm so fucked up that when I'm packing in my hotel room, I'll turn the TV on, won't even watch it. I just need the background chatter of people talking because otherwise as I'm packing, I feel too lonely. Dude, what's wrong? What the fuck? Like we, I've. Like we're losing the ability just to not have chatter around us. What is that, by the way? You know that feeling when you're by yourself, nothing's going on around you, you're just by yourself. Hotel room, your room, car. You haven't turned the radio on yet, it's just you. And this feeling appears that I feel. Like a lot of us, we really don't want to feel it. And so we find this morphine via some distracting distraction like my podcast. Thank you for listening. But what is that, Robert? That feeling, that ache?
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Robert Ryan
Well, that ache is just again your ego trying to fill this space that once you get past that loneliness or that weird feeling isn't so bad at all. And there's actually a sweetness to it. Think of all the amazing, beautiful music, books, movies that have been written out of loneliness. You know, the potential for. For so much output can come from that, that one feeling that you're gonna suppress, that you're gonna like, you know, let bubble up inside you and all these. The feeling doesn't go anywhere, you just fill it, you know, you just replace it with something else. But it's not going anywhere, it's still there. That feeling is there for a reason. You should pay attention to it, spend some time with it, maybe make friends with it. Or have it become your worst nemesis. At least you're face to face with it. Well, you're not hiding from it and you're not trying to trick yourself that it's not there.
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Duncan Trussell
It's a shock collar.
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Robert Ryan
Yeah.
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Duncan Trussell
You know what? It's like it's some kind of self. Like we put the shock collar on ourselves, I guess. But the moment you get into the undiscovered country, which is the zones of silence, the places of non transaction or doing something for some reason, the most obvious way to get there is meditation. Lots of other ways, the thing starts going off and that is a good sign. It means you found the perimeter of your fence here. Some asshole has put an invisible fence up here. You're the asshole. But if you keep going. I've noticed that, yeah, that feeling, it's like. Even though it gives the impression that it's going to get worse or last forever, it really does. There's not a lot of, like, it doesn't have a long battery life, whatever the shock collar is, you know, it just suddenly it stops bothering you. And then it's like suddenly you're. I mean, this is the kingdom of heaven. All of a sudden, like this thing you've been. You've been basically trying to avoid, what, 10, 10 minutes of unease, and because of that, you're missing out on what's on the other side of that invisible fence. This is really tortured analogy. I'm so sorry.
- [46:12]
Robert Ryan
But it's not, though, because there is something to be said about, like, knowing your limitations, but then you're the one that's able to move them further, you know, and push them, you know, and not being like, you know, not giving into, like. Well, I can't do that because I'm into this, you know, I can't go to this place because these kind of people might be there.
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Duncan Trussell
All those things, you know, I don't listen to this kind of music. I don't watch these kind of movies. I don't wear this kind of clothes. I don't do. I don't do this. I don't get fisted. I don't fist. Wait a minute, I'm fisting. It's not so bad.
- [46:48]
Robert Ryan
Yeah. Or, you know, through all that, like, I really wanted to get fist.
- [46:52]
Duncan Trussell
As it turns out, I needed a good fisting. Who would have thunk? But this. I'm sorry, I always ruin everything. This to me, like, you know, not to get conspiratorial here, but I do think a lot, like, what if we are going to continue with my idiot shock collar comparison, I feel like that we've created it. Actually, it's been created for us. There seems to be built into the media, built into advertising, built into everything. Like an intentional kind of, I don't know, distraction technology that is trying to do everything to keep you from realizing that just not doing much, not playing video games, not distracting yourself, doesn't lead to depression or malaise, but rather to this place we started talking about in the beginning. This incredible realization. You don't. You don't really need much to be okay.
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Robert Ryan
Yeah, there's a huge market in it. That's why the. You know, in the shock collar market, you know, like, you know that if you don't, like you said earlier, if you spend the time to mend your own clothes, to do your own work, to fix yourself and fix your own problems, you know, you're taking the third party out of it. And that third party exists off your fear, you know?
- [48:25]
Duncan Trussell
Oh, that's so creepy. Yeah, that's so true too. My God, it's so true.
- [48:30]
Robert Ryan
It's like huge currency. Fear is a huge currency.
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Duncan Trussell
We need, like, I guess, like, not to go in the completely other direction. Some of the potential AI overlays now that it can monitor things in real time, meaning that theoretically you could put an AI overlay over your TV and during commercials, it could detect how much the commercial is trying to scare you. And just a little meter could appear, like the levels of fear that it's trying to induce in you, either in a subtle or overt way. And you'll begin to realize that 90% of commercials have embedded in them some ghost story that is supposed to scare your ass into getting the fucking thing. The next time you're watching commercials, just ask yourself, are they trying to scare me right now? It's not like they come right out and say, listen, motherfucker, you're fucked if you don't buy this fucking thing. It's a more subtle thing, like, hey, did you hear about Henry? What? Heart attack yesterday. No. Life insurance policy. Do you have a life insurance policy, honey? No, I don't want to do it. You need it for our fan, you know what I mean? It's like over and over and over again. Whatever it is, whatever. The commercial is scaring your ass. And that's money, baby. That's money.
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Robert Ryan
Yeah, it's scaring or it's like tricking you, you know, like, oh, this. This like very soft, gauzy world is out there. If I take this medicine, you know, I'll be able to play in this gigantic backyard show with all these people, you know, and it's. Every race is reproduct. Represented and all the ages are represented. Everyone's having a great time and everyone's dancing around a little pill.
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Duncan Trussell
It's right on the other side of that.
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Robert Ryan
Yeah, yeah. And then we have a jingle that's going to be so addictive and horrifying that if you don't remember it, you might, you know, you might lose your mind. It's just the way. The way it's all shopped to us is like. I mean, they're experts, they're they're experts in mind control. You know, that's what you do when you're an analysis.
- [50:38]
Duncan Trussell
Oh, my God, it's so creepy. And then, you know, the other, you know, the other thing I realized is in the same lane that we're driving down right now. This episode is sponsored by BetterHelp. Did you know October 10th was World Mental Health Day? And we must thank our nation's therapists. Can you imagine that job for the therapists out there watching this? I can't imagine that job. I don't want to brag. I got a bachelor's degree in psychology, so, you know, I'm basically a therapist, but not really. They go into debt. You got to go to school for years. You got to take statistics classes. It's brutal. And then you sit in a room and you heal people's minds. Can't imagine what that's like. My mom was a therapist, and. Wow. Some of my best friends are therapists. Wow. I'm always impressed by what that's like. The reality is that the right therapist can change everything happened for me. If you're somebody who's skeptical about therapy, I was, too, and I have a bachelor's degree in psychology. I'm still skeptical. Sure, this is going to work for some people. It's not going to work on my old, crusty, mildewed brain, my calcified heart, but I found a great therapist, and holy shit. When it works, when the catharsis happens, it's the most incredible moment. You never forget it. This World Mental Health Day, we're celebrating the therapists who've helped millions of people take a step forward. If you're ready to find the right therapist for you, BetterHelp can help you start that journey. Our listeners get 10% off their first month at BetterHelp. Duncan. That's better. H-E-L-P.com Duncan. Take care of yourself, friends. It's rough on them streets. Find a great therapist. Let BetterHelp help you. That. So the way the algorithm works is it, you know, you look at your phone and you're seeing these examples of, like, varying degrees of madness, whatever it may be. You're seeing somebody drinking their menstrual blood. And by the way, if you want to drink your period blood, I'm not saying that's madness, but what the madness part to me is setting up the tripod before you drink your menstrual. You know what I mean? Being out there in the woods, getting the lighting right and then drinking your bowl of blood. You know what I mean? So you're seeing these. The algorithm likes these things, whatever it may be. But if you'll notice, and again, this is my algorithm. I don't know what you're getting, but you'll notice that your role when it comes to the algorithm is a normal person. Because we like to think of ourselves as normal people, but we also like to look outside of the bubble of what we consider to be normal. And that scares us. My God, what does the world become? But in general, this normal observer thing, this is how we've all been identified. You're normal. You're just a normal, stable dude. You want to be. Okay, these assholes out here are fucking nuts. And then the reporter, you know, is the ultimate version of the normal person. He's just reporting. He's completely. He got the suit on complete.
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Robert Ryan
No accent.
- [54:45]
Duncan Trussell
No accent.
- [54:46]
Robert Ryan
Perfect geometry.
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Duncan Trussell
No. He's got the weird hypno language thing going. No. So you watch him and you're like, that dude's way more normal than me. Look at that, its beards trimmed. Look at how. Look at his fucking suit. I'll never have a suit like that. I'm going to trust this motherfucker. And you forget that that normal person's paycheck is coming from people selling the fucking pill that apparently will allow you access to the hyper inclusive, fuzzy, gauzy dream world where you're finally able to play guitar in front of people at a backyard barbecue.
- [55:24]
Robert Ryan
Ain't it the truth? It's true. I mean, that's like what we feed the algorithm. That's what we do. We're stewards to the algorithm. We maintain the algorithm. It's, you know, and. And it's funny. Like I, you know, click on one fight video on Instagram, that's all you're gonna get from. And it's cr. It is. You know, there is. That's where you do start to see the lopsidedness in it. Where like, the most intense stuff that you might highlight in your. In. In your viewing is gonna show up way more than, like, something that's more subtle.
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Duncan Trussell
Absolutely, man. And that's why it's curious to me. And maybe it's just because I'm an old man now and I don't know, tech, but there should be on all social media, an obvious button to reset your algorithm. There should be a button you press which is like, it washes the slate away and deletes palate, cleanse and erases all the metadata they have on you. There should be a button you press that just wipes the whole fucking slate so that you, you know, you know, I sent my wife a picture of a sexy pregnant amputee and I don't know why I did that. And dude, I'm still getting them. It's like, no, by the way. No. If not, it's not like that's the worst thing the algorithm served up, but it's got a lot.
- [56:47]
Robert Ryan
It's such a neat, a niche thing though, that, like that. Where does that exist in the corners of the Internet? And how are they farming that towards you, right? And like, what you're talking about is pure anarchy, bro. You know, because if you want to reset the algorithm, that's like out years and years of data mining down the tubes for them, you know, whoever they've been paying, you know, to set that up, you know, their job is, you know, start from square one. And it's true, you know, the old, the old adage, you are what you eat. Same thing happens online, same thing happens musically. What you're listening to, what you're watching.
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Duncan Trussell
On tv, there you go. But there is an algorithm you can reset, right? That's the old internal fucking algorithm, as above, so below. And you know when you realize that your brain seems to be functioning just like TikTok. TikTok didn't invent anything new. They're like, let's just copy the way humans habituate when it comes to fixating on things. And, you know, if you start, what do they say? Neurons that fire together, wire together. And so if you have spent the last, you know, many years worrying over whatever you've been worrying over, that's all you're going to get, man. Your brain is just going to keep spitting that shit out over and over and over again. And you have some control over that. Like there is control over that.
- [58:17]
Robert Ryan
Yeah, yeah. You ultimately have agency to go back and just focus on your breath, you know, which is the ultimate palate cleanse. And, you know, like, take it from me, I've done it. And, you know, I don't do it all the time. I might not be great at it, but I do have experience with it. And every time I have concentrated on bringing that into my life, I felt better because of it.
- [58:44]
Duncan Trussell
Spoken like a man who just got back from a silent retreat.
- [58:46]
Robert Ryan
True. Three days, which was very easy. Three days is like nothing compared to what the, you know, the vipassana practitioners do. 10 days usually, but three days, I needed it and it was amazing.
- [58:59]
Duncan Trussell
10 minutes, just do 10 minutes. I mean, honestly, like, most of Us are so fucked up that if you just do it for 10 minutes, oh my God, like you won't even believe it. It's so funny and so absurd that that's all you need. I mean, it's literally, you need it. But it's so absurd that just sitting and watching your breath for 10 minutes, that can be the thing that sets your entire life in a whole new direction, by the way. And I said new direction, not new direction. Are we. How are we doing on time?
- [59:34]
Robert Ryan
It's 1:15 my time. I still got another 15, 20 minutes.
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Duncan Trussell
Okay, perfect. You're good?
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Robert Ryan
Yeah.
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Duncan Trussell
Okay, perfect. So I'm curious, this is something. As I was thinking about our conversation. You know when people hear about Shiva, right. That those, those people who know who that is, Most of us don't believe that's real in the sense of there's an actual Shiva. You know what I mean? That there's an embodiment, an actual. I don't want to use the term person, but personification, an entity. And I was curious, what's your take on that? Do you think. Do you actually believe in a trident wielding being that lives within and outside of this reality?
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Robert Ryan
I do. But I also believe in the consciousness of infinite goodness that has no body or identification and that being the true Shiva for us. We make the symbols of Shiva as an archetypal figure. You know, that trident has a meaning. That double ended drum, Damaru has a meaning. Him standing on one leg has a meaning. Him wearing a tiger cloth. That's all embedded, encoded spiritual symbolism for the greater force, that is the potential for all creativity. The. The. The shakti, which is the female. You know, Shiva will take the lingam as a symbol. You're familiar with the lingam? Yes, it's the yoni, which is the base and the, the lingam, which is the male. So it's the male, female, like that. Combined together the potential and kinetic energy. And that's what I believe in as Shiva. Shiva is the potential energy. Devi is the kinetic energy. Have people made personifications for those symbols? Yes, obviously. It's to help them, connect with them. Did they actually exist historically? Not for me to say. Could it have been in a completely different loca, you know, like a different realm that is outside of our earthly realm? Very good potential for that.
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Duncan Trussell
You know, when I was in a Hare Krishna temple and had, I would say, one of my most profound religious experiences, it was because I realized, like to try to control it, I had been telling myself, I mean, this isn't real in the way that like, my brother's real. And then it showed up and I realized, oh fuck, it's real real. And yeah, the personifications aren't going to do it justice any more than trying to draw, I'm sure, like trying to draw an elephant. At least I'm not good at drawing. Look at the old pictures of elephants, you know what I mean? But you realize like, oh my God, it's real. And my mind, seeking to dominate it, told myself a story that it's not real. It's archetypical, mythological, an assemblage of aspects, but surely not the thing itself. But I think it's real real. Like I don't know where or why, certainly not why. But to me I think that's one of the wild moments you can have in some kind of theistic spiritual practice.
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Robert Ryan
It's as real as it is here for you. If you're experiencing it in the heart, it's as real as it is happening in that moment. It's like me trying to tell you what an apple tastes like if you've never tasted an apple, or what a song sounds like if you've never heard the song. It's completely experiential. And that's the difference of, like, blind faith being like, oh, this is God. This is what he looks like. This is what she looks like. This is how old they were. This is where they lived, rather than this is this inner dwelling master, that if you pay enough attention and have enough awareness within you, you may be able to experience and you may be able to adapt into your life and have that become, you know the direction that you're gonna. That you're gonna walk. The path you're gonna walk is gonna be that Shiva.
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Duncan Trussell
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Robert Ryan
There it is.
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Duncan Trussell
You'll see Shiva.
- [66:06]
Robert Ryan
You know the song, it's there. It's embedded.
- [66:08]
Duncan Trussell
Man, you are the best, as always. I love our conversation so much.
- [66:14]
Robert Ryan
I love you too, man. It's great catching up.
- [66:16]
Duncan Trussell
I love you and I can't wait to see you in the flesh again that night after the show. I'm coming out to Philadelphia. Just. I'll let you know. I'm coming to Helium again. I hope we get the chance to hang out.
- [66:25]
Robert Ryan
Yeah, please let me know. We're gonna be playing in North Carolina. My band, Soma. I play in a band called Soma and we're playing in North Carolina, which. I know you're not there anymore, but.
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Duncan Trussell
I wish I was.
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Robert Ryan
People that are there, maybe you can refer them. And we're gonna be playing at Alex Gray's too, in December. On the floor.
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Duncan Trussell
Where an nc. Where in nc.
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Robert Ryan
I can't remember the name, but just send it to me.
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Duncan Trussell
I'll say it in the beginning.
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Robert Ryan
Yeah, it's in Nashville and it's amazing space, Asheville.
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Duncan Trussell
The orange peel, maybe, or.
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Robert Ryan
No, it's the listening room. The.
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Duncan Trussell
Listen, just send it to me. We don't have to. Yeah, yeah, but that's. So you're gonna be at Cosmic.
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Robert Ryan
Will be at KAZM on the full moon in December.
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Duncan Trussell
Fuck, that is so cool.
- [67:09]
Robert Ryan
Please come. Please come.
- [67:10]
Duncan Trussell
Oh, God, I love them so much, man. I miss them.
- [67:14]
Robert Ryan
They are the best. Well, what amazing experience just to be there with them and what they've created there is incredible. I highly recommend it to anybody.
- [67:24]
Duncan Trussell
They let me park my tour bus once when I was on tour at Cosm and I slept in front of Cosmo, my tour bus and had the craziest dreams I've ever had in my fucking life. It was so weird.
- [67:34]
Robert Ryan
Yeah. I wonder why.
- [67:37]
Duncan Trussell
Just coincidence. Just coincidence.
- [67:39]
Robert Ryan
You're sleeping in front of a living art museum.
- [67:42]
Duncan Trussell
I know. So cool. Yeah, they're sweet, man. Well, okay. You're the best. Onwards and upwards. Hare Krishna.
- [67:50]
Robert Ryan
Hare Krishna.
- [67:51]
Duncan Trussell
That was my friend Robert Ryan, everybody. Go see him perform, won't you? And if you're looking for a tattoo, he's the only person you should get a tattoo from on this entire planet. If I'm ever going to get a tattoo, it's from that man. And it will be a tattoo of the Burger King sitting on a throne of human skulls. I'll see you next week. Until then, Hare Krishna.
- [68:17]
Ryan Seacrest
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- [68:48]
Duncan Trussell
What's that sound?
- [68:49]
Robert Ryan
That's the sound of Downy Unstoppable scent.
- [68:51]
Duncan Trussell
Beads going into your washing machine and giving your clothes freshness that lasts all day long. There it is again. It's like music to your ears. Or more like music to your nose. That freshness is irresistible.
- [69:04]
Robert Ryan
Let's get a Downy Unstoppables bottle shake. And now a sniff solo.
- [69:10]
Duncan Trussell
Nice. With Downy Unstoppables, you just toss wash. Wow.
- [69:15]
Robert Ryan
For all day freshness.
- [69:18]
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