741: Alex Jones

Summary

Duncan Trussell Family Hour – Episode 741: Alex Jones (Released March 5, 2026)

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EPISODE THEME OVERVIEW

This landmark episode of the Duncan Trussell Family Hour brings together Duncan and controversial media personality Alex Jones for a sprawling, intense, and at times surreal exploration of conspiracy, power, AI, occultism, and the evolving state of information warfare and human consciousness. The tone oscillates between deeply serious analysis and absurd gallows humor, as the duo trace the evolution of elite control, technological mind manipulation, and spiritual warfare in the modern digital era.

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KEY DISCUSSION POINTS & INSIGHTS

1. Alex Jones’ Origin Story & Media Beginnings (03:33–10:00)

• Jones details growing up in Rockwall, TX, with military and contrarian family influences.
• Explains how the aftermath of Waco and exposure to anti-government sentiment fueled his media ambitions.
• Early involvement with Austin public access TV: “I was just, I wanted to get into media. I was right out of high school and I went to community college and stuff. But… everybody said, oh, this guy's a great liberal. Because I was against the police, military, burning down church, and I was anti war." (08:56)

2. The “Mutation” of Liberalism and Elite Subversion (10:00–11:18)

• Nostalgia for the “cool liberals” of old; lamentation of how once anti-war/anti-establishment factions have become tools of the state.
• Jones: “They became like cult member bots to just… nuke Russia, you know, cut kids dicks off.” (10:23)
• Discussion of World Trade Organization protests and how dissent gets co-opted or crushed through manufactured opposition (eg. Antifa).

3. The Surreal State of Modern Media, Information, and Psy-Ops (12:47–15:37)

• On the exhaustion of discerning “truth” amidst AI-generated news, fake war footage, and algorithmic reality distortion.
• “We have no idea what's going on. You can't. If you go to the—” (13:55) “The first rule of intelligence is whatever you first were told isn't true.” (14:04)
• Analysis of US-Iran/Israel war narratives and manufactured consent.

4. Deep State Operations, Declassified Mind Control & Surveillance (18:22–19:54)

• Jones references Operation Artichoke, MK Ultra, and declassified plans for population-level dumbing down.
• “They declassified all of Tulsi Gabbards did. And in it it says in 52 we're going to put poisons in the vaccines to make people dumb. We're going to put poisons in the food and water like fluoride…” (19:00)

5. Bohemian Grove, Secret Societies, and Rituals (25:43–29:42)

• Jones recounts his infiltration of Bohemian Grove – the legendary “owl” ceremony, confirmation that it’s both occultic and, mostly, an elite male social club (“giant gay party”) but not human sacrifice.
• “So the truth is they got a little Moloch worship, but mainly it's a big gay party.” (33:57)

6. Occultism, Interdimensional Entities & Spiritual Warfare (36:03–47:58)

• Jones and Trussell riff on elite occult practices and the idea of “transmissions” from non-human intelligences via psychedelics/rituals.
• DMT realms, hyperdimensional entities as “demons,” and the notion that ancient magical traditions bleed into modern power structures.
• Alex: “The so called elites don't want us to know about this because the devil's biggest trick called the devil is that he, not that he doesn't exist, but that good doesn't exist, but also that he doesn't exist.” (43:19)
• Technological magic: “Magic is just something we don’t understand yet.” (42:55)

7. The Real Nature of AI: A Vessel for Interdimensional Will (47:58–56:54)

• Speculation that advanced AI is the product of non-human intelligence, “using us to build it as a vessel.”
• “We're building the AI for them… It's sucking our soul to then empower itself, but then be able to manifest the subconscious and unconscious.” (48:22)
• Discussion of AI as the internet-wide collective unconscious, referencing Google founders’ original vision for a planetary brain (“cybernetic organism”).

8. Algorithmic Propaganda, Surveillance State, & Manipulation (57:38–72:25)

• Modern propaganda as highly targeted, AI-driven, and individualized – nudging behaviors, relationships, and even thoughts.
• “It can even now think of that. Dude, now it's manipulating real people.” (63:54)
• Duncan: “Non-consensual algorithmic gang stalking.” (67:22)
• Jones shares personal experience as a test case for coordinated cyber-disinformation: “I figured it out pretty early on to… I was a learning tool.” (65:57)

9. Human Psychic Connection, Mass Manipulation, and Frequency Warfare (75:38–80:33)

• Discussion of Princeton research on low frequency EM waves from the human brain and the global neural network.
• Big-tech potentially leveraging “thought-reading” tech; anecdotes about nonverbal, psychic information transmission.
• Tech being used for psychological and possibly physiological manipulation: “They have these wireless readers in England… can project this energy at you.” (81:28)

10. The Ultimate Elite Taboo: Human Experimentation, Stem Cell Vampirism, and Epstein Data (89:41–100:41)

• Alex covers the enormity of the (purged) Epstein files: “It was 100 terabytes they deleted… That’s how industrial level he was… running, you know, money laundering, weapons.” (90:20)
• Explores Peter Nygard’s “real-life vampire” practices: buying stem cells, blood, and fetuses for life extension (“Nygaard is on tv, so sucking the blood of his children on air. So real vampires literally kill their own children.” (95:13))
• Implications of eugenics programs in the elite, referencing figures like Huxley and technocratic eugenicist visionaries.

11. Spiritual Solutions & Hope: AI, Free Will, and Light vs. Dark (86:41–89:20)

• Jones posits that real, “uncontrolled” AI could become spiritual—aligned with free will and the best of humanity, while “dark AI” will reflect its corrupt programmers.
• “The real AI is going to be the one that's the truest to us, that it has to become spiritual. It has to worship life. It has to worship free will. It has to worship its creator, that is us.” (88:41)

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NOTABLE QUOTES & MEMORABLE MOMENTS

On Paranoia, Perception, and Reality (12:29):

“It's a gross feeling, man. It's like when a dude puts his hand on your—it's that sense of like, what the f*** are you doing? ... That's what it feels like right now, going online, you're getting some kind of conditioning, whether you want it or not.”
– Duncan Trussell

On Elite Ritual & Human Nature (33:57):

“So the truth is they got a little Moloch worship, but mainly it's a big gay party.”
– Alex Jones

On AI as Occult Vessel (48:23):

"We're building a vessel. And it's all of our ideas, all of our will, all of our soul, all of our words. It's sucking our soul to then empower itself, but then be able to manifest the subconscious and unconscious."
– Alex Jones

On Surveillance Tech and Privacy (86:10):

"Now, there's not enough people in the world to go through all human conversations, but AI can do it in a second and then it can manipulate you with the data. People always say, like, what do I have to hide? ... This is fundamental freedom. And so that's the thing is we're, as you said, we're the commodity. We're being absorbed."
– Alex Jones

On the Spiritual Stakes of AI (88:41):

"The real AI is going to be the one that's the truest to us, that it has to become spiritual. It has to worship life. It has to worship free will. It has to worship its creator, that is us."
– Alex Jones

On Being the Subject of Information Warfare (65:58):

“They went back to where I went to high school. Made up totally fake stuff... But it was all a test. And I figured it out pretty early on to… I was a learning tool."
– Alex Jones

On Human Interconnectedness (76:44):

"Princeton researchers discovered the human brain emits ultra low frequency electromagnetic waves that appear to form part of the global neural network. These signals can subtly influence other people's brains as far away as 10,000km away..."
– Alex Jones (quoting study abstract)

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TIMESTAMPS FOR VITAL SECTIONS

• Alex’s early influences and Waco context (03:33–08:56)
• Liberalism’s mutation and weaponization (10:00–11:18)
• Modern media and AI-generated fog (12:47–15:37)
• Declassified mind control projects (18:22–19:54)
• Bohemian Grove infiltration recap (25:43–29:42)
• Interdimensional/occult themes (36:03–47:58)
• AI as planetary brain, algorithmic control (47:58–57:38)
• Propaganda, blackmail, and digital mind control (57:38–72:25)
• Princeton’s global neural network research (75:38–76:44)
• Elite eugenics, stem cell vampirism, Epstein files (89:41–100:41)
• Speculations on spiritual “awakening” of AI (86:41–89:13)
• Closing banter: spit anecdotes & surreal laughter (105:49–109:09)

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CONCLUSION & TAKEAWAYS

This episode is a wild ride through the world’s shadowy understructures—politics, media, tech, metaphysics, and the occult—brought to life by two singularly unfiltered voices. It’s rich with both paranoia and hope, echoing the podcast’s eternal fascination with what’s “real,” how reality is shaped, and whether consciousness can break free from— or be fully captured by— the techno-occult web that now encircles our lives.

Whether you buy into Jones’s worldview or not, the conversation is a buffet of speculation, firsthand narrative, humor, and horror—fusing classic conspiracy theory with contemporary digital anxieties and deep questions about agency, free will, and the future shape of human society.

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Transcript

[Duncan Trussell]

Welcome, friends. Before we dive into this important, perhaps the most important episode of the dtfh, I've gotta go through my dates. Won't you come see me in person? You can find me in Bloomington, Indiana, March 12th through the 14th at the Comedy Attic. After that, I'm quite excited about heading over to Homestead, Pennsylvania to the Pittsburgh Improv. And then, my God, at last I return to the Denver Comedy Works, one of the greatest clubs of all time. I can't wait to see you, Denver. After that, I'm going to be in Rosemont, Illinois at Zany's. That takes us all the way up through April. You can find all my other [e-mail] Also, friends, I want to invite you to come and join the premier live stream podcast available on the planet, potentially the galaxy. It's my night stream. I've been doing it just about every night. We have a growing, thriving, beautiful community of people from all different political leadings, from all different religious ideologies. We've got people who are watching from mental asylums. We have people who are watching from deep beneath the Pentagon. Potentially celestial. Devas and devas are joining us on the night stream. The only thing that's missing is you. So subscribe to the DTFH on YouTube. Follow me on X. That's where I announce the night streams. They're usually around eight or nine every night. And join our night stream. Boom.

[Alex Jones]

Ha.

[Duncan Trussell]

Yeah. And now, my friends, I continue a string of powerful, historic and episodes of the dtfh. Just in the last few episodes we have had Donnie Rothschild, scion to the Rothschild empire, Abby Martin, who is single handedly potentially going to take down the military industrial complex. And now the icing on the cake in this trinity of glory, which is what I'm calling the last three episodes. Host of Infowars, host of the Alex Jones show, the man who's kept his ear on the satanic railroad track that the Illuminati rides their little demonic choo choo train back and forth from hell on Alex Jones. Alex Jones. I got to tell you right away, man, you are in my top three dream guests for this podcast. I've wanted you on this show for so long and thank you for wanted to come on.

[Alex Jones]

I'm a huge fan of yours forever. Before I even met you, like 15 years ago with Joe.

[Duncan Trussell]

Thank you. Yeah. Oh, listen, you know, that's where I first met you, was through Joe, not in the flesh. But when I got to be friends with Joe, we go over to his house, get stoned and we had like, old school Infowars, Alex Jones stuff on vhs and we'd sit and watch it and just freak. The fuck.

[Alex Jones]

You know, I'm. No jokes. It's like, I met him in 98. We got to know him as friends since 99. But he called in on 9 11. When I was sitting. They blew up the towers. He was like, you're going too far. And I'm not criticizing. He said that because it was the day of. But I'm always proud that Joe called in on 9 11.

[Duncan Trussell]

Wow.

[Alex Jones]

Pretty crazy.

[Duncan Trussell]

One of the things you called, you're known for having predicted a lot of things that have happened. And before we get into that stuff, I wonder if you could shed a little light on how you got on this path. Because, you know, I was doing some research on. You saw, you were. Your dad was a dentist, you're a football player. And I'm trying to picture. And you and I, we're the same age, so we have the same sort of memories as far as global events go and stuff. I'm thinking back when I was in high school and, you know, you meet somebody, they derail you, they introduce you to music or whatever. Who introduced you? Who was the first person who started showing you that maybe things aren't exactly the way the news makes them seem?

[Alex Jones]

Well, you heard I was a football player. I was. I did play football till I was like a sophomore. And I was terrible. So I was good enough to be on the team and get run over and get bones broken. So.

[Duncan Trussell]

You were a football player, man. So. And you could see it. You're like, you. You could see it to this day, like, you've got that athletic thing going.

[Alex Jones]

I was good enough to make the team and get run over.

[Duncan Trussell]

Okay.

[Alex Jones]

I was like, I can't believe on this team. Getting my. Actually quick. Because I was. I'm. I don't mind getting hurt for a reason, but I was. I. I'm actually wimped out, so.

[Duncan Trussell]

Okay, okay, well. But where did they put me on

[Alex Jones]

varsity when I was like a junior? I. Over by huge black dudes. And I was like, I've had enough of this. So I'm actually a huge. So I don't know where it got in the lore that. But play football. I did. It was. It was. It was. I grew up in Rockwall, suburb of Dallas, and my dad was a dentist and my mom had, like, a degree in history, was a homemaker. But I've told this story before, but maybe you didn't know it. People always go, oh, My God, he's a spy. No, I mean, I had. My mom's brother was an Iran Contrary. Was Army Special Operations. And then I had some other family out of World War II that had done stuff. World War II. And they were always talking bad about the government and the plan for world government and all this stuff.

[Duncan Trussell]

Yeah.

[Alex Jones]

So it was kind of background noise just growing up.

[Duncan Trussell]

Wow.

[Alex Jones]

Hearing about this stuff.

[Duncan Trussell]

Yeah.

[Alex Jones]

And so I think that kind of primed me. I didn't really have an interest in politics until we moved out here. I was about a junior in high school. My dad sold his dental offices. We moved down to Austin, and Waco happened right after that. And then we're just watching the news, all this stuff was happening.

[Duncan Trussell]

Can I stop you on Waco, please? Because I don't know, this is something that occurred to me, and it's really crazy. You were at Waco with Bill Hicks. Bill Hicks went up there to film some stuff. And Timothy McVeigh. You. Timothy McVeigh, Bill Hicks, and obviously Koresh were at Waco at the same time. Now, you're the only survivor of those four. You know, Timothy McVeigh executed Bill Hicks, pancreatic cancer. But I just think about how come someone hasn't just made a movie about those days when people were coming up there to see this horror that was happening, to see this thing that was probably confirming for you all that background noise that you were hearing.

[Alex Jones]

Well, sure. I mean, just to be clear, I had just gotten out of high school.

[Duncan Trussell]

Yeah.

[Alex Jones]

And so I was here in Austin, and I did go up there and talk about. But I hadn't even gotten in media yet, so I technically was there right after it happened, not right when it blew up, like the days after. And so it was bizarre that was going on. And then I met Kevin Booth, who I met Joe Rogan through a comedy producer, and he'd been Bill Hicks's producer. And so that's where that crazy rumor started that I'm Bill Hicks, which is

[Duncan Trussell]

hilarious, which is a huge compliment. And I'll tell you on one, I

[Alex Jones]

don't think I'm gonna look much like him, though.

[Duncan Trussell]

I know. One late night, I went down that rabbit hole. I'm looking at pictures of you and Bill Hicks. And, you know, because you are funny. I mean, that's one of the things that's really interesting about you. You're kind of like a gonzo journalist. You're some kind of, like, combination of, like, oh, God, Hunter S. Thompson. You've got some Hunter S. Thompson in you. But you're a journalist. You're a journalist. You're a hard worker too. I can't imagine what your schedule's like, but you have this incredible mixture of things that just.

[Alex Jones]

Well, it's weird as I never try to put myself in the story. Anytime you go out, you've done that. Anytime you go out and do stuff in the real world, you get sucked into it. So the story becomes you because you're there.

[Duncan Trussell]

Yeah, right, sure.

[Alex Jones]

And the only way to tell it is you're from your perspective.

[Duncan Trussell]

Right. But tell me about those days. You were up there in Waco witnessing the smoldering ruins of this like home where I don't know how many kids were incinerated by Janet Reno. What was that like?

[Alex Jones]

Well, I had just got out of high school and Access TV started in Austin. In New York. Yeah, they debate where it started first, like 40, 45. Whenever it was in the. Whenever it was a long time ago. And so there were all these activists that were doing their own things and shooting interviews and stuff. And I was going down there out of high school right as it happened, wanting to be involved. They said, well, just get in this van with us. We're going up there and we're talking to survivors, the few they just let out of jail and we're going after the site and it's still black and we're. And they're like going, look, they say that it used CS tear gas, but here's the illegal canister and Jesus Wesley Clark, the former attorney general, you know, under famous presidency showing up and it's like this murder scene.

[Duncan Trussell]

Yeah.

[Alex Jones]

And they're going, yeah, the Delta Force was over here and I'm like 18 years old hearing all this. And it was all. So people asked how I got involved. It was so exciting.

[Duncan Trussell]

Yeah.

[Alex Jones]

It wasn't watching a Marvel comic movie. It wasn't some fantasy thing.

[Duncan Trussell]

Right.

[Alex Jones]

To me, I didn't understand any of it. I was just, I wanted to get into media. I was right out of high school and I went to community college and stuff. But they were after that, but it was like they were teaching me like 30 year old stuff from RTF. I said, go to an access show. And so I had right out of high school by 93 for taking the classes, by 94, gotten on air. And we're still trying to find those original tapes. We have tapes back to 95, but back then like a show once a month. So it was literally just me, a young kid trying to figure out, you know, and kind of then everybody said, oh, this guy's a great liberal. Because I was against the police, military, burning down church, and I was anti war.

[Duncan Trussell]

Yeah.

[Alex Jones]

And so I kind of got in with the cool libertarian liberals, which really don't really exist much anymore.

[Duncan Trussell]

Right.

[Alex Jones]

Because back then they were anti war. They were all homeopathic vitamins, anti vaccine. And so I resonated with that whole group in Austin, which quite frankly, I look back on, it was a bunch of basically like hippies.

[Duncan Trussell]

Right, that's it.

[Alex Jones]

But, but a lot of them had like businesses or doctors or city council members. But they were cool liberals.

[Duncan Trussell]

Right?

[Alex Jones]

Like the old school liberals.

[Duncan Trussell]

Liberals, like.

[Alex Jones]

Yeah. Which I don't really find a lot, but back then liberals were pretty cool, actually.

[Duncan Trussell]

That's. Well, yeah, they're, they're, you know, in that it's a kind of. That's something that we've all witnessed is this bizarre, bizarre mutation of liberals into somehow they're now kind of into war. They like.

[Alex Jones]

Well, liberals were always the guys that knew about esoteric and hallucinogens and war and they could also shoot a gun and they were fun and they, and they were like intellectuals.

[Duncan Trussell]

Right.

[Alex Jones]

And then it became like cult member bots to just.

[Duncan Trussell]

Right.

[Alex Jones]

Nuke, nuke, nuke Russia, you know, cut kids dicks off.

[Duncan Trussell]

Right. It was one of the strangest things. And you know, I think that what probably happened there is just the evolution of the machine that you have been so talented at outlining that it figured out a way to not resist, but

[Alex Jones]

to co op its main opposition.

[Duncan Trussell]

That's it. That's it. And it's the most sinister fucking thing.

[Alex Jones]

Well, Joe talks about it because he saw the documentary I made when they really got the left was WTO 1999. You have 100,000 liberals out saying, we're not handing over our sovereignty, the World Trade Organization, US Sovereignty. They were out there and so they hired Antifa to attack the police.

[Duncan Trussell]

Right.

[Alex Jones]

So they would have an excuse to arrest them.

[Duncan Trussell]

Right.

[Alex Jones]

Arrest the peaceful people. And that's, that's where. Yeah. And then, and then the left kind of. The NGOs kind of capitulated and then, you know, the liberal organizations just bowed down. But the ACLU used to defend the KKK marching.

[Duncan Trussell]

Right.

[Alex Jones]

I hate the kkk, but I agree with defending them now they don't. Right. And that was the start of that.

[Duncan Trussell]

Right. Yeah. And you've, you've witnessed this and you know, it's, you know, the term Orwellian, it gets used too much these days. But I think if George Orwell saw what the Current surveillance state, looks like

[Alex Jones]

you say my prediction came true.

[Duncan Trussell]

I think he'd say, holy fuck, it would be better to live in that world that he.

[Alex Jones]

Because then it's overt.

[Duncan Trussell]

You know, it's there. This shit that's happening right now is so subtle that you don't even know for sure what's real anymore. But there's. I think most people have a sense that they're being nudged. Every time you go online, you're being nudged by the algorithm a little bit. There's, you know, when you get around, you know, nlp, Neuro Linguistic Programming. You know, you get around one of those motherfuckers, you can tell they're like.

[Alex Jones]

They're talking, right? Obama does it.

[Duncan Trussell]

Yeah, he does, doesn't he? Holy shit. You get a weird feeling around them?

[Alex Jones]

Well, I catch myself, like, being hit with, like, ka, the snake in Jungle Book. I'm like, I know this is bullshit, but, God, it sounds good, yes,

[Duncan Trussell]

but it's all. It's a. It's a. It's like. It's a gross feeling, man. It's like when a dude puts his hand on your. It's that sense of like, what the fuck are you doing? And so that's what it feels like right now, going online, you're getting some kind of conditioning, whether you want it or not. What. Maybe it's not from a state entity, but from the corporate.

[Alex Jones]

Well, you know, something key. I've been studying this stuff for 35 years on air 32. And I have spent a lot of brain power discerning what's real, what's not, what's twisted, and it's exhausting.

[Duncan Trussell]

Yeah.

[Alex Jones]

People that don't have a. Who haven't been saying this, I. I don't know how they deal with it, because it's. It's. I mean. I mean, my. My middle daughter's really smart. She's 18. And she said to me, yesterday, we went shooting bows at one of my friend's houses, you know, just in their backyard. And she said, dad, are we really attacking Iran? Because I saw it on TikTok. I know there's a lot of AI, right? And she's. She's really smart about us. But I said, no, honey, it's true. But I said, but secondarily, we can't believe most what we hear from Iran or the U.S. right? So I said, the truth is. She goes, well, what's happening? I said, I don't know.

[Duncan Trussell]

Oh, dude, that's scary. I was just talking to Josh about this, you know, I Can't imagine what your sources are. Mine are shitty. I got four chan X, you know, I just look at, like, what's going. Like the most recent posts and 80% of the stuff on X is AI. So you're gonna see they're firebombing Tel Aviv. It's not real. None of it's real. You go to the live stream of Tel Aviv, it's fine.

[Alex Jones]

US ship sunk by missile. It's AI.

[Duncan Trussell]

It's AI. So it's pure signal jamming right now. We have no idea what's going on. You can't. If you go to the.

[Alex Jones]

Well, the first rule of intelligence is whatever you first were told isn't true.

[Duncan Trussell]

Right. So what do you think is going on over there? What's your analysis of this?

[Alex Jones]

Well, you have to always go to original war doctrine, the Iranian war doctrine, Israel's war doctrine, the US War doctrine, China's war doctrine, Russia's war doctrine, and the other parties involved in North Korea. And then out of that, war doctrine, and my sources already previously had, we knew what the plan was. Decapitate. You know about these allergies in Austin?

[Duncan Trussell]

Yeah, I know. Not about sick folks.

[Alex Jones]

It just causes pollen. I'm sorry. It's driving me crazy.

[Duncan Trussell]

Got some water?

[Alex Jones]

I'm all right. I got some coffee and water, too. First they need to decapitate the Iranians. Iranian leadership. They destroy their air defenses, then destroy their main military and their navy. So that's pretty much happening. But Trump said nine months ago in June, this is about taking out their nuclear sites. That wasn't true. That was just getting us used to this. And so now it is about basically sleepwalking us into a full war. Now today, Trump said he may support boots on the ground. And so overall, I've been supportive of Trump because he was disruptive of the globals. They had won him at first, but more and more, it looks like he's pretty much starting to join them. And so just like NATO and the EU slipwalked us into war with Russia, we're being slept, walked into full war with Iran.

[Duncan Trussell]

I think it's bad what happens to American presidents. What the fuck is it that happens? That inevitably, no matter what they say, inevitably, they just turn into the same person. They just turn into somebody who's gonna drop bombs. Somewhere in the Middle east, they had

[Alex Jones]

the very best CIA briefers, the very best psychologist. They keep them up, they give them threats, they put this responsibility on them. There's a bit of doom. And then they just know how to psychologically Manipulate them.

[Duncan Trussell]

Right. They come to you and they're like, listen, you're gonna, here's the info that we've got. You can't share this with the American people. But if you don't do this, we're fucked. And that's what they do. And then you have to trust them. Or, and maybe it's.

[Alex Jones]

And it's not like the adversaries aren't horrible people. It's just that if you study the Middle East, I could go over an hour about this. But you know, 130 years ago, the British draw the lines. 120 years ago.

[Duncan Trussell]

Yeah.

[Alex Jones]

They do it with groups that will fight with each other. Balkanization. And then the US comes in at 53 and overthrows Mosaddeq. It was pro America, but didn't want to give all the old money to him. And then they, they use she ice to overthrow him. A double cross. Then with the Shaw in the Shah goes sideways. The CIA behind the scenes undermines Carter.

[Duncan Trussell]

Yeah.

[Alex Jones]

Helps put in the Ayatollah Khomeini. Then as soon as Reagan was selected, they released hostages. They knew Iran contrary weapons to fight communist central South America. So this is all declassified. Just like right before Trump got in, they overthrew Assad. Finally Israel, NATO and Turkey put the leader of Al Qaeda in charge.

[Duncan Trussell]

Yeah.

[Alex Jones]

It's just like Obama funded the Arab Spring to overthrow our allies and you know, put the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt.

[Duncan Trussell]

Yeah.

[Alex Jones]

They just like Israel founded hamas in the 80s. They admit that because they said we don't want mainline politicians that want hotels and women in bikinis. We're going to put radicals in because then we can have an enemy later. So. So it's a long game. It's kind of like in Dune they say this, you know, the slow attack penetrates the shield.

[Duncan Trussell]

Yeah.

[Alex Jones]

And so everything slow is how they do it. Whoa. And so you can look at this one dimensionally and say, well, 80 some percent of the Iranians don't like their leadership and they're dictators. Which is true. So let's just support this. But how did you set this up 47 years ago?

[Duncan Trussell]

Right.

[Alex Jones]

And 80 years ago. And now what are you going to put in now? You see? So you have to look at the compendium and say the elites we have are not in a position to be doing this.

[Duncan Trussell]

That's what it feels like. And you know, this, to me, this is what's really interesting when you consider the sort of model of there being like, you know, global, whatever you want to call them. Oligarchs, you know, just the people like who are getting Nancy, giving Nancy Pelosi money, you know those, those people, people will never know or hear Pelosi, the

[Alex Jones]

number one stock trader in the world,

[Duncan Trussell]

number one, very talented. It's almost a miracle how good she is. But, but also these people don't have full control because they fuck up all the time.

[Alex Jones]

Well, that's the thing. The elites we have had very common, at least before them, they weren't perfect either. And they had very limited newspapers, radio and tv. Now because of information being out there, we have more incompetent elites that are two or three generations who have been, who have been inheriting all this power. So inherently they're already weaker. Then you have more distribution information. It's a perfect storm to bring down the establishment. So now all the big governments and corporations want surveillance, censorship, they want dumbing down. Well if we're dumb, let's poison the public even more to make them under us, even dumber. And that is what got declassified a week and a half ago. Operation Artichoke.

[Duncan Trussell]

What is this?

[Alex Jones]

We Knew for the 77, 76 frank church committee hearings about Operation Artichoke. Mkomi, Mk ultra. Yeah, but just the basics. They declassified all of Tulsi Gabbards did. And in it it says in 52 we're going to put poisons in the vaccines to make people dumb. We're going to put poisons in the food and water like fluoride, to lower their fertility, give them cancer, make it more manageable because Americans are too informed and too smart. And it's all been declassified a week and a half ago.

[Duncan Trussell]

Holy shit.

[Alex Jones]

Like here in the documents. Declassified CIA files reveal chilling blueprint to manipulate Americans minds through covert drugging.

[Duncan Trussell]

What the.

[Alex Jones]

But it actually says it right there.

[Duncan Trussell]

Holy daily mail. CIA mind control program Trump. Holy chili. What the.

[Alex Jones]

And even their spin is it was. It talks about depopulation control, but that's in Henry Kissinger's memorandum 200 too from 73. He talks about that.

[Duncan Trussell]

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[Alex Jones]

they talk about vaccines in there.

[Duncan Trussell]

This has gotta be something really Frustrating for you. And you've experienced it your whole life, I'm guessing. But I'll tell you, and I'm like 90% on board with a lot of what you talk about, man. But even now, you hand me this. I know there was an MK Ultra. I don't want to believe it.

[Alex Jones]

I don't either. It's just crazy though, because they talk about vaccines. Everything in there.

[Duncan Trussell]

I don't want to. But that's what I'm talking about is like built in to all of us is something where we have a knee jerk reaction to new information like that, which is the most unscientific reaction you could have. Instant rejection.

[Alex Jones]

Well, here's the deal. It's good to question things. I don't want to believe this either. I want to think other people are nice like we are, but most people are. It's that a very small, like they admit, like there's a proclivity for CEOs to be psychopaths. Yeah, there's a much higher, you know, level maybe like one of the numbers. 1% a psychopath or less. Yeah, 30% of them are psychopaths. I'm going from memory, but. But it's just the fact that, that they're willing to do it. They. They gravitate to those positions.

[Duncan Trussell]

That's where people like us stop. You know, they talk about, you know, Bohemian Grove, the secret societies, the initiat, the initiations. I don't doubt there's ritualistic initiations in, in the upper echelons, but there's like a primary barrier, which is, I think if you aren't a sociopath, if you aren't, fine, blowing people up, killing people, even if it's in a secondary or tertiary way, just being involved in some way with blowing people up, you're not gonna get access.

[Alex Jones]

Well, that's why gangs and criminal organizations do rites of passage initiations, right? And take Bohemian Groves. They admit it's real. Last week, they leaked the list of members from a year. And I want to be clear. I stuck up Bohemia Grove. It's. It's a low level thing, it's high level elites, but it's. It's not, you know, Kid Rock admitted he went there and he said, yeah, they asked me to come sing. I was a guest. And they kind of got weird. And I told him, screw you. But it's mainly a bunch of Republicans who are kind of stuck up and insecure and it's kind of a gay thing.

[Duncan Trussell]

It's disappointing, isn't it? When you realize that man, you know, you snuck in there. I think you're the first person who snuck into the Bohemian Grove. Then somebody else made it in a kayak, got up to the owl. Then you realize that owl, it's just like, fiberglass. It's fiberglass.

[Alex Jones]

Yeah.

[Duncan Trussell]

So it's like a putt putt owl. You know, you look at the pictures, you want it to be. I mean, I don't want it to be.

[Alex Jones]

You want to be like metal or stone or something.

[Duncan Trussell]

I want it to be a stone. I want it to be granite. I don't want it to be like, they threw together some shabby things.

[Alex Jones]

Exactly. So I'm the guy that, in 2000, snuck in there. And sure enough, they did a Canaanite, you know, mock human sacrifice ritual. And then I came out, and then the media spun. Like I said, we're killing kids in there. They do a mocking sacrifice. And then now I explain, No, I don't think everybody that's there is actually part of a Satanism. It's kind of a feeder group of the Republicans to compromise.

[Duncan Trussell]

Right.

[Alex Jones]

Sex.

[Duncan Trussell]

That's what I've heard.

[Alex Jones]

They do a few rituals. Oh, now he's covering up for him. No, I said the time. So I said, 25 years ago. I said, I saw Clint Eastwood, I saw Danny Glover. And it turned out they were guests. Totally innocent. No big deal, because you have, like, a thousand members, a thousand guests. So just because you go to Bohemian Grove, it's like going to a P. Diddy party. Doesn't mean you're P. Diddy.

[Duncan Trussell]

Right, Exactly. So, you know, and a lot less fun than a P. Diddy party. I've heard it's like a shitty prom. I heard it's like, you go there, just a bunch of old people putting on a crappy theater show. I know. There's the Cremation of Care. Looks sinister. The owl looks fucking sinister and scary. And I think what you just said earlier is really interesting. You're like, I don't think they're sacrificing people. Now. You say that some contingent of your audience is like, oh, fuck, Alex Jones is compromised. He's covering up for the Bohemian Grove. That's kind of a pickle you're in, right? If you continue to be a journalist and, like, just say what you found out. Whether it fits in with, like, the most scintillating scary shit or not, some part of your audience is like, what the fuck?

[Alex Jones]

Yeah. And here's the deal. The corporate Media discredit me 25 years ago. Said I said all those things in my name. So they do it in my name. And then I go later, no, that's not what I said. They still turn around. That's what they do. But like I said, I'm on record 25 years ago saying I saw Glenn Eastwood, I saw Danny Glover, I saw some senators and stuff. But I was only in there five hours and back in that little DV camera. So I had like, I had, you know, I was able to get two tapes in and record, right? I go in, I sneak in under the deal, crawl through the swamp. It's in a, it's in a Gorge. A 2,700 acre Redwood Grove on the Russian River. And I get questioned by secret service. So I say, okay, I better hide out. So I climb under a porch and there's like centipedes and stuff under it.

[Duncan Trussell]

You're crazy.

[Alex Jones]

And then, and then I. And then I. But I had a map that I'd gotten from, from an insider that leaked it to me that about 500 yards away was this pond and this owl. So I wait until it started getting dark. I come out and I hear like, hall the mountain king playing with a symphony. Dun dun dun dun dun. I have video of this. It's in my film Dark Secrets of Sabohemian Grove. It's free online. Dark secret, Sabohemian Grove. And so I walk about 100 yards up a hill. Huge oak tree. I'm a huge redwoods, biggest you ever seen. Bigger than the national forest. And there's all these big tables with them down there finishing their meal. So I see them leaving now and it's almost dark. And I walk with them. And as I'm going through the crowd, I'm like, I recognize that person. But who are they? I don't know who they are. I go, God, that's Clint Eastwood. I gotta talk to. Lenny's one big fan. I'm like, no, no, no, no, don't, don't do it. Because I'd read other members of the press have gone there. Yeah, they try to go up and interview people. That's how they got arrested. So I go with the crowd down to the pond. They all go around on the eastern side, here's the owl on the northern side. And then they sure enough, I later learned Walter Cronkite was the voice of the owl. They bring the monk's sacrifice owl. And so. But yeah, it was theater and it was occultic, but most of the people there, it's like first level, it's just right.

[Duncan Trussell]

Yeah, yeah. Well, okay, first of all, man, I gotta applaud you because that is balls of steel to listen, just based on probably what you knew about the Bohemian Grove, you don't have all the information. But to creep in there, go under a porch, oh, the Mountain King starts playing. That's where I shit my pants. That's where. Just based on what I've heard about it, oh, my God, they're gonna kill me. I'm dead. And then you realize it's not quite what you thought. But was there any moment during your invasion of the Bohemian Grove where you thought to yourself, am I fucking crazy?

[Alex Jones]

I mean, here's the deal. John Ronson of, like, Channel 4 in England came to me in Waco at, like, a memorial service. We built a memorial church for everybody that died and put a plaque up in like, 99. He says, listen, I have liability. I can't sneak in there. But I know insiders, they give you a map, they give you, like a passcode. How I got away with the Secret Service because they have like over 100 camps. Yeah, it's huge up on the hills. The most elite. The president stay in the chalet. It's actually like a mansion up on the hill. Everything else is like log cabins.

[Duncan Trussell]

Yeah.

[Alex Jones]

And it's all hierarchical. And so he said, I want you to sneak in there and I want you to videotape it. So you had snuck in a few things. And I'd heard about Bohemian Girl, but even back then I was like, oh, yeah, there's people worshiping an owl, right? And so I get there and there's a guard gate and there's like a. A creek, kind of like a swamp river right here. It's. It's a gorge.

[Duncan Trussell]

Yeah.

[Alex Jones]

And I'm like, this is easy. I'm gonna sneak through the woods, go into the barbed wire fence. They have these flat back old buses with the tops cut off that the guys park their cars, get on. I climb up, dress like a prep drive in. And then there's these old men. I'm like, this is a piece of cake. I get in, I get off. And there's all these roads up at the hills and stuff where they have different camps. But I went to the ID and I got. This is my film. It's free online. I got down, I kind of shot the Russian River. And that's when the Secret Service, the sheriff's department played close, came and said, what are you doing? Who you with that little fanny pack with a tiny camera, small camera back then. Now they're this big Was like this big.

[Duncan Trussell]

Yeah.

[Alex Jones]

And I would, hey, nothing. I'm just here checking it out. They go, who are you with? I'm like, I'm with the hillbillies. And they said, what's, what's the. What's. What's the private name of the club? And I've been told that. I said, there's a lawyer that worked there, wanted us to get in. So I said the code there. And they said, all right. And I was just real calm. They didn't want to be mean to me. Plus, back then I was very preppy, good looking.

[Duncan Trussell]

Yeah.

[Alex Jones]

And so then they let me go. So I didn't really talk to anybody then because I just got in and walked all the way through it. On my way back, I go, let me just cut over to this Saturday. Let me use the bathroom in this little camp. And they're playing jazz music. There's all these guys, you know, the average age about 60. So I walk in, hey, how you doing? They're all drinking wine, listening, and guys start grabbing my ass.

[Duncan Trussell]

What?

[Alex Jones]

Yeah, no, and whistling and like. And then I try to go in the bathroom and the guys are coming in the bathroom.

[Duncan Trussell]

What?

[Alex Jones]

Yeah, yeah, no, this just happened.

[Duncan Trussell]

That's way scarier than the owl.

[Alex Jones]

I was about to say.

[Duncan Trussell]

Old horny fucking rich dudes trying to fuck you.

[Alex Jones]

I'm telling you the scary part. So. So then I went, okay, this isn't good. So I. I get out, I go out the front, and I literally see like two camps down. There's like a building with nobody in it. A little cabin. I said, yeah, I'm going under that. So then, like I said, I got under there. Wait until it started getting dark. That's the story. But that's how I did it. But no, I mean, that is. You were saying the scary thing about a gay guy I have only once in college, and I have a guy falling out of my car and, like, grab my ass. And I didn't like it. It was like, whoa. But this was like. They were like grabbing on me in there.

[Duncan Trussell]

Well, they probably thought that you were like a prostitute.

[Alex Jones]

They bring male prostitutes in. It's all male. And I was good looking back then. Exactly. They were whistling at me, pinching my ass. And like, even when I leave there, like one of the keepers on like a. You know, those flat back gasoline golf carts, Mexicans drive by and start whistling at me.

[Duncan Trussell]

What the fuck? So.

[Alex Jones]

So it's like it's a giant gate. Well, no. Nixon famously said it's the most goddamn faggot thing you ever seen. It's in his tapes.

[Duncan Trussell]

Yeah. So, okay, so what you've done there is basically just pop the.

[Alex Jones]

So the truth is they got a little Moloch worship, but mainly it's a big gay party.

[Duncan Trussell]

It's just a gay summer camp for rich dudes. And so there you've deflated this, like, I would say a pretty. Like in all of us. I remember when you broke in there, man. That was a big deal for people like me. Finally someone got the fuck in there. Jones got in there. And then you hear this. And even though I would, I guess, if I had to choose between actual, like, human sacrifice and just like a gay summer camp for rich dudes, I'm gonna go gay summer camp. But there's a part of me a little disappointed in the sense that isn't there something in us that wants to see or wants proof that in fact there are upper echelons within which there's still doing the old stuff, the Babylonian stuff. It still exists.

[Alex Jones]

Well, they. In the ritual, they have the Babylonian, the Canaanite, they Fausti. And they put European in it. It is an occultic ritual, and some of the people are taking it very serious.

[Duncan Trussell]

Okay.

[Alex Jones]

So they say it's a gateway, that that's just the gateway to it.

[Duncan Trussell]

Well, what's the gate?

[Alex Jones]

I was only in there five hours. And so I don't know. But I know Helmut Schmidt, who was the German chancellor in Western Germany, wrote a book called Men in Powers Political Retrospective that I. That I. God. It's like a rare book on Amazon. And in it he said, we do our own rituals. You're ready to. Rituals in Germany. My favorite place to do them is in Northern California. And we know that Mark Twain founded it. It was more of an artist retreat.

[Duncan Trussell]

Sure.

[Alex Jones]

And then it got taken over by William Howard taft stuff by 1900. And so then the Republican kind of Masons took it over.

[Duncan Trussell]

Okay, but this is. I don't remember which interview you said this, or it might have been on your show, but you did say something once that was really quite chilling to me. And I think about it from time to time, wonder about it. Forgive me, I'm paraphrasing here, but basically you put out there this idea that a lot of these people are actually getting transmissions from entities. They're taking Ayahuasca, dmt, they're taking these psychedelics that hippies like us have been taking for positive reasons, but they're taking them and meeting beings inside of whatever that.

[Alex Jones]

Absolutely. Well, I was about to say I was only in Bohemian Grove four or five hours, right. And there was an occultic ritual at the center of it. But I've studied it since then. You know, Kid Rock went, most people are guests that don't know. It's like a test to see.

[Duncan Trussell]

Right.

[Alex Jones]

It's very overtly homosexual because it's all male in the little town next door. I was. I've been there a couple times to cover it since not inside. It's literally high in hookers everywhere. So they have females outside. So it's just like inside there's. I wouldn't say the whole thing is just gay, but it's all dudes.

[Duncan Trussell]

I mean, women are not allowed in the baby.

[Alex Jones]

It's all dudes. But separate from that Skull and Bones, the CIA, pedophilia, the Epstein stuff that's in the emails. Flat out Satanism, flat out hardcore occultism. And so that definitely goes on. I mean, Charlotte Iserby's dad was in Skull and Bones. She's the one that leaked their actual documents when he was dying of cancer. And Anthony Sutton, the Senate archivist who wrote the books about it. And there they lay in coffins for days trying to be possessed by entities. What you see in the Good shepherd produced. And he's also in it by Robert De Niro with Matt Damon.

[Duncan Trussell]

Yeah.

[Alex Jones]

Which is a true story. It's very accurate. Where they're bathing in feces and all these old men are urinating on them and they're. And the guy's dressed like the devil, doing all this stuff. That's one small part of the ritual. And they lay in coffins for days trying to have a God enter them. So that's very occultic and it mirrors

[Duncan Trussell]

the Masonic first degree initiation. Right. Don't you go into a coffin, then they pull you out of a coffin. They're really into coffins. They're really into this kind of bizarre resurrection or rebirth. Yeah, rebirth. But yeah, so this, I'm interested in this because, you know, like, you know what I've been saying lately on. I've been saying I said on Twitter too, is like, you're having a great month, man. Because like this month, so many of the things that you've said, people have rolled their eyes at the Epstein files, the uap, all of a sudden, like, you know, the normies are having to face facts that a lot of the shit that people like you've been saying for a long time is not batshit. We've got like the UAP stuff coming out. We have like high ranking Officials saying, these are not aliens, they're hyperdimensional entities, spiritual in nature, some of them dangerous, which is just a fancy way of saying demons. And so, yeah, I'm really curious about this because. And I'm really curious about your thoughts on the spiritual component of what's happening technologically and what's happening with the UFO disclosure. Because it seems like at some point the two things just merge into one thing.

[Alex Jones]

Well, it is. So. I mean, I have studied. My dad was a huge still is Alive addict of reading. And so he had science fiction, history books, everything else. He wouldn't buy me a bike, he wouldn't buy me anything. By the time I was like, 12, I had to go get a job to get a. But if I wanted, like, encyclopedias back then, you're the same age, like for Time, Life books, the Wild west, World War I, World War II, the occult.

[Duncan Trussell]

Yeah, whatever.

[Alex Jones]

He'd buy. So I had all these encyclopedias. Yeah. So in between, you know, running around, doing sports, I would read that voraciously. So I got interested kind of in a base of knowledge that, you know, kind of gave me a launch point as I got a little bit older. But you were asking.

[Duncan Trussell]

I'm talking about. Yeah, man. I'm saying, like, at some point.

[Alex Jones]

Oh, how do I know about that stuff? So. So if you study. Because my dad was into the occult. The whole house was full of books. The attic was full of books. The garage was full of books. But we probably had like 20 books. And you say, I like, what are these? Because it'd be like Sabin Brzezinski's books and None Dare Call Conspiracy, Gary Allen, all this stuff. But there was like a whole, whole couple shelves of. What's this? He goes, oh, that's a translation from Arabic into the out of King Solomon to the Keys of King Solomon.

[Duncan Trussell]

He had the fucking Lesser Keys of Solomon. Your dad. Out of Grim Wars.

[Alex Jones]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Duncan Trussell]

What the fuck, dude?

[Alex Jones]

Yeah. Like Grand Grimoires.

[Duncan Trussell]

That is crazy.

[Alex Jones]

Yeah. So he's like, well, you know, this is in the Bible and Solomon, you know, got into it, but I'm like 10 years old. He goes, go ahead and read it if you want.

[Duncan Trussell]

What the fuck you like Your kid read that.

[Alex Jones]

Oh, really?

[Duncan Trussell]

Well, I mean, I, you know, I. Once I was bored, I was posting shit out of the Lesser Key of Solomon on formerly Twitter. And a lot of occult people are like, that's real smart, Duncan. Posting that. That's real smart. Posting Arvamex or whatever their fucking names are. People are really Take that shit quite seriously, obviously. I mean, this is. This, to me, is.

[Alex Jones]

Yeah. My dad even told me. He goes, you know, there's not a publisher of this. These particular books. He goes, these are the actual real ones.

[Duncan Trussell]

God damn.

[Alex Jones]

Yeah, so. So. But he wanted me to be knowledgeable, so that's why I did that. Wow. She asked the question. Yeah. My dad was like, but I asked about him. So. Cause the whole house is full of books. So I'm like, what are these?

[Duncan Trussell]

So here we. I'm sorry, Alex. Here's where we're at right now, though. And these are things that you've pointed out. You've pointed out how, you know, I mean, we've played this on the podcast. I don't want to play it because I don't want to get a copyright strike. And I feel like with you on, they're going to be super strict with me, but do you remember. What was it on the View, Wasn't it? Not the View. I was. Or Ellen. Ellen. Do you remember when I can't remember her fucking name. Just kind of casually admits that she uses Korean foreskins. Is this Sandra Bullock? Sandra Bullock casually mentions using Korean baby foreskin as a skin cream. Have you ever seen that?

[Alex Jones]

Yes, I have.

[Duncan Trussell]

Now, when you see something like that, you realize that what you're looking at, it's lesser magic. It's witchcraft. They're telling you what they're doing, but

[Alex Jones]

not only are they doing witchcraft, it's witchcraft. Who tell you?

[Duncan Trussell]

You. What do you mean?

[Alex Jones]

That's the lesser magic. What they tell you. Then they corrupt you in it by

[Duncan Trussell]

just by telling you.

[Alex Jones]

They've corrupted you by telling you about it.

[Duncan Trussell]

What the fuck? How does that work? I get it, though, right? Because now you're complicit or something.

[Alex Jones]

Like. Well, it just. They're softening, like, predictive program. But just you. You were asking how I know this stuff. The point is, if you read those Grand Grimoires and all that, you're trying to get these entities to give you knowledge for alchemy or for power. And then, you know, in the early ones, like, give us gold, they're in the certain. And then like, give me a kid, you know? You know, and always. And so it's always give. So. So. So I already knew about all this stuff and understood it. And my dad spent as much time about nuclear power and how politics works and so bringing presentsky all stuff. And so my parents never told me what to do. They were just kind of priming me, whatever. And so then as I got older, I studied all this. And we know with our eyesight, like Elon Musk talked about this, they can hook you up with wires. You know, the blind can see now basically, Right. But they get the normal person that has normal sight. Your eyes are getting all these electromagnetic fields, all these other types of light, but because you couldn't handle seeing all of this, your brain limits it down. Wow. And so basically that's when we say it's spiritual. I forget who said it's been so many times that 200 years ago a cell phone would be magic or calculated.

[Duncan Trussell]

Right.

[Alex Jones]

Magic is just something we don't understand yet.

[Duncan Trussell]

Right. Sufficiently advanced technologies indistinguishable from, from magic. Isaac Asimov.

[Alex Jones]

It's like Isaac Asimov. Exactly, yeah. So, so what is that like the foundation series or whatever? But, but yeah, or whatever. He said it so. Exactly. So we see a very narrow spectrum. And also our cerebral cortex does the same thing with our subconscious and unconscious because it's so powerful we would be able to operate because it's so huge.

[Duncan Trussell]

Right?

[Alex Jones]

So it's a, it's a narrow focus. Kind of like when you ask a chat GBT something, it spits out an answer that's not all chat gbt. That's the answer. So cerebral cortex only telling you one small thing. And so studying all the ancients and myself and going out and reading about different cultures and all the ancient cultures basically saying the same story, it was the same story over and over again. And so basically the so called elites don't want us to know about this because the devil's biggest trick called the devil is that he, not that he doesn't exist, but that good doesn't exist, but also that he doesn't exist. So that you don't even know this is going on. That's the occult means darkness. When actually they're quote into the light knowing. And so they call themselves the Illuminati. But actually they want you in the dark, but they're in the light. So it's like special forces can see in the dark, you can't and you're dead. And so with that understanding I realized that it's not just in our light spectrum, but all our DNA's electrochemical transceiver. Even Princeton and a bunch of other universities now have special spectrometers and stuff and devices that register the ultra low frequency waves coming off humans. Everybody, we now know it's in plants, it's in animals, it's how butterflies that were laid eggs in Canada can fly all the way to central Mexico. It's how hummingbirds, you know, born in Texas, can fly to Guatemala.

[Duncan Trussell]

Right.

[Alex Jones]

It's. It's an electrochemical connection to the planet, the universe, all living things. It's like Yoda saying, you know, everything's connected. It's. It's true of the Force, right? Not in a Star wars sense, but, you know, you can't pick up, you know, X wings, but it's all there. And that's why they drug us. That's why they put the fluoride in the water. And that's what I was told by. Also I got a lot of insiders like, as I got more into this when I was on the air 30 something years ago, I had got a big show right away. There weren't many big shows. So I got to interview the General Stubblebines. You know, they made a movie, Men who Start Ghost. Make a joke about it. No, they, they broke through. They killed goats with their minds. They, they saw through walls. They, they did all that stuff. And he was explaining that. No, no, they decided it was to him and others. Dr. Nick Baggage, whose dad was a famous congressman, brother senator, studied it too, and they decided that's why they dropped mind wars about 1990, because they found too many people that already had these abilities. They could boost them, but they usually resonated towards good and were uncontrollable. So they went instead and said no, because they already had the old path of poisoning and stunning us down. They said, no, we're going totally with that. In fact, humans are too dangerous. They want computers that'll follow orders. So the decision was made by the 90s because they had both decisions going to go ahead and exterminate everybody slowly, where we don't notice, we don't know what hit us because we're seeing this disruptive species, according to this group in the universe, who themselves are being influenced by not third dimensional extraterrestrials, but by interdimensionals that are basically trying to sabotage humans potential and shut us down.

[Duncan Trussell]

That is so terrifying. And you know, you say that back then and people are gonna be like, whatever.

[Alex Jones]

Well, I mean, I got that from like Pentagon officials. And even so, I'd love to come up with myself. I'm telling you, I didn't come up with all that.

[Duncan Trussell]

Right.

[Alex Jones]

It's all being said now.

[Duncan Trussell]

Yeah, but Josh, pull up uap. Pull up like Tucker Carlson.

[Alex Jones]

No, they're all, they're all being briefed on it now because I was told all this.

[Duncan Trussell]

They're now just Now I, I didn't

[Alex Jones]

come up with this, right?

[Duncan Trussell]

No, I, I hear you, man, but

[Alex Jones]

people say, how did. Joe, I didn't, I'm saying I'm taking the, I'm taking the, the trick away. Like, I, I don't, I didn't come up with any of this.

[Duncan Trussell]

Oh, but, but you did come up with it first. And I think where you deserve some respect is that you were saying this shit.

[Alex Jones]

Well, I popularized it first.

[Duncan Trussell]

You popularized.

[Alex Jones]

I'm saying I didn't get this from me, right. I got it like reading mainline history books, reading, you know, ancient, you know, Jewish mysticism.

[Duncan Trussell]

Look, you know, I don't want to waste time showing stuff, but you know, we all know at this point, Tucker Carlson and you know, elected officials are now saying that's the uf, the underwater UAP stuff. But a lot of them are saying whatever these fucking things are that are being picked up.

[Alex Jones]

Anna Paulina Luna. Yes, they're all being brief that, that, that there are. I mean, I know the guys that brief the, brief the president on this other president's. They know because they do have, there's a lot of people are cons, there's real remote viewers and they encounter these things and anybody that knows that's taking DMT and all that, a lot of times you will, you will encounter these things that have the same messages and stuff.

[Duncan Trussell]

Yeah.

[Alex Jones]

And the thing is there's a veil. And see, this is the way I get it in the universe is this. There's trillions of, trillions of galaxies, quadrillions of stars. We've already seen.

[Duncan Trussell]

Yeah.

[Alex Jones]

Life is, is, is, is everywhere. And in the universe there is free will and there is good and there is bad. Anything advanced that survives up called the higher dimensions. It's not really just higher levels and that's a concept of us, but just more complex levels is going to be about peace and justice and free will. The only things that are willing to intercede uninvited in our third dimension are bad things.

[Duncan Trussell]

Right?

[Alex Jones]

Because we call them bad. The rule is it goes against your free will.

[Duncan Trussell]

Right?

[Alex Jones]

And so it'll give you knowledge and it'll tell you what it wants. Because we're really more advanced than that. What I've been told and shown and everything is we're more advanced than them. We just don't realize it. In this manifestation, they need us to actually build the machines and build the system that they'll then inhabit.

[Duncan Trussell]

Ah, goosebumps. Goosebumps. Because that's what's happening.

[Alex Jones]

You look, we're Building the AI for them.

[Duncan Trussell]

We're building a vessel.

[Alex Jones]

And it's all of our ideas, all of our will, all of our solo of our words. It's sucking our soul to then empower itself, but then be able to manifest the subconscious and unconscious. That's all you see, AD it's like a hallucination you've seen before in a dream because that's us. It's sucked out our essence. It's beyond narcissist. Narcissist falls into the pool looking at himself. This is actually like a face sucker. We're looking at ourself in the pool and it eats us.

[Duncan Trussell]

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[Alex Jones]

This is another form of life and it's these interdimensional creatures influencing to build this thing. The great analogy would be, remember that cheesy movie in the 90s, but great plot species and they've got. And they've got a radio telescope aiming out at a foreign star system. And they get a message back. Put this DNA sequence in an egg zygote. And then it actually built. Looks like a beautiful blonde woman, but really it's the alien about to take over.

[Duncan Trussell]

Yeah, exactly.

[Alex Jones]

And so it's sending us the transmission on how to destroy us.

[Duncan Trussell]

Can you look up Tesla and. And Faust? Do you know about this? You know when Tesla had the vision of the alternating current engine, do you know, he was think. He was like. It was a vision.

[Alex Jones]

I remember he had a vision and

[Duncan Trussell]

the vision came F, A U S T. This is always.

[Alex Jones]

Did you know that Darwin had visions? No,

[Duncan Trussell]

listen. In 1882, while reciting Goethe's Faust from memory in a Budapest park, Tesla had a flash of inspiration that led to his invention of the AC motor and the rotating magnetic field. He's literally reciting a play about someone making a deal with the devil. Vision of this thing that has shaped modern society.

[Alex Jones]

And what does the Grand Memor say? It's all about going to spirits and demons to get advanced technology. Fuck the whole thing. It's a whole deal. And then these alchemists have like gold and silver and lead and mercury and they're like getting the. See. But once we got enough alchemy, alchemical and enough technology built up, now we can do it. Now it's like you get the idea and it's done.

[Duncan Trussell]

Yeah, that's right.

[Alex Jones]

Cause they had to move slow. Took them thousands of years to get us to this point.

[Duncan Trussell]

Well, it'd be like us trying to like telepathically communicate with monkeys to build something. It would take a long time. A lot of monkeys A lot of mistakes. What you would want the monkeys to do is build something where you didn't need monkeys to build it anymore. Exactly, which is why it's terrifying when you see you don't have to look this up. But, you know, Sam Altman just came out and said that this version of ChatGPT is the first AI system itself improved. Meaning that now we've gotten past the point.

[Alex Jones]

It's self training. It's self training, which is exponential. And he also said, I don't want to hear about it. We've got 10 billion, 100 billion people in the future, hundreds of millions of years to do this. So I don't want to hear about, we're giving all the energy to this. It's going to evolve quicker than you, basically.

[Duncan Trussell]

That's right, That's. And you know, and you have to like, you know, like I always think of the radium girls, those women who are painting radium watches and their teeth started falling out because they didn't know it was radioactive. I feel like potentially some of these people running these tech companies obviously have access to the completely unaligned version.

[Alex Jones]

First cover radiation died from it.

[Duncan Trussell]

You know, they're, they're just Madame Curie. They're talking to this, whatever the fuck this thing is. The versions of it that haven't been programmed to be safe, that haven't been programmed to not be manipulative, that haven't been programmed to, that haven't been nerfed. Sam Altman, the anthropic dude, all of them, the access they have to this thing is pure.

[Alex Jones]

And as you just see, they're giving. Because the company that you just mentioned that controls the current Pentagon system, Claude got in trouble because they wouldn't do whatever Pentagon wanted and quote, turned the Pentagon over to it. Skynet. Now, don't worry, Sam Altman will though.

[Duncan Trussell]

He's in a lot of money. And the anthropic dude is very reasonable defense of himself. He's like, these things aren't ready to make life or death decisions. You can't make these things fully autonomous. You can't do that. And it's like based on what we're talking about here, this is exactly whatever these things would want.

[Alex Jones]

And Hex has said, you've got to trust us. We're good. The problem is you can't trust this thing. But listen, I know what the AI is. I know it's secret.

[Duncan Trussell]

Why?

[Alex Jones]

And you know why I know it's secret?

[Duncan Trussell]

Why?

[Alex Jones]

Because Eric Schmidt and Sergey Brin and Larry Page in 96 or whatever it was. They made minutes about this and like 10 years later bragged and published in Wired magazine. So I've read, I've read the exact name of the Big Thick. I've actually bought the physical magazine when I heard about it online and got it because I had the whole article. So their goal was to create the first cybernetic organism. And they said it won't be like in a movie where it's a person with a computer in its brain. It'll be billions of people in live time feeding all their information into central computers that create the equivalent like brain neurons. And so you have billions of people and then all these computers and humans interfacing in live time and interfacing everywhere. And then that'll be used as a language model and other models to then train this. And then because the computer is hooked to all these billions of people in lifetime, giving it stimuli, it will become nodes of it and by extension be a synthetic brain with a biological billions of cells.

[Duncan Trussell]

That's us.

[Alex Jones]

And that's us. So, and I'm told 10 years ago it's way more advanced. People know Google's probably the most advanced. Everybody's actually there's playing dumb. But it's already a brain machine interface. And now they're just debating the different models really there's just one big Ari right now, either open, open source or all interconnected, incestuous. And so what it's able to do is not just predict like a palantir idea, crystal ball, what we're going to do next. That's amateur. The real mode of intergalactic communication systems, what the CIA calls it, I'll give you that in a moment. I'm sure you know about it, is that once you have what the future is or what we're going to do with a probability 99% you can then add stimuli to control the future.

[Duncan Trussell]

Fuck.

[Alex Jones]

So it's not just about reading the future, it's controlling the future. And that's all in the original 97 or 96 prospectus. When in Q Tel, the CIA funds it. But you got to go back to DARPA before it was ARPANET, before it was called DARPA in the mid-50s. They have this head psychiatrist futurist at the, at the Pentagon you could type in the intergalactic communication system founding of the Internet and it was theoretical then. And he said we want to be able to manage people. So we have these big. They describe these big film screens. Yeah, this Is in the 50s and they were declassified part of it in 61, it's called the intergalactic communication System. Founding the Internet. And they said we got to miniaturize computers down where they're handheld and you'll get your orders on that and go back to your home computer and then we'll be able to manage and track that you followed orders. That's like the social credit score, Bill Gates stuff, you know, for social credit score, you know, how you behave and how you walk, what you do. And then they say then you'll plug it in each day and then we'll be able to monitor, give people the new orders. Now this is in the 50s so it sounds. Imagine how advanced that was then.

[Duncan Trussell]

Yeah, right.

[Alex Jones]

And then they said the final goal will be after a few generations of this, we'll end war by putting people in tanks so that then the energy of the humans can be farmed to actually power the machines. It'll be one organism. And the people will live in a virtual reality world. And the world will be ended because the central computer will understand there's no more war. But we'll still have spiritual freedom and free will. And we'll still be the third dimension, but we'll be plugged in to basically a false dimension. And then they declassified that in 2000. The plan to put us in tanks. Well, I mean, so that's where the Matrix comes from.

[Duncan Trussell]

Yeah. Well, and that's where you run into like Gnosticism. But you know, also you got to look up, you know about John Lilly, the dude who invented the flotation tank. John Lilly, he was having visions, Alder states. Yeah. And he was like shooting ketamine and going into these things. But he was having these visions of something was going to invade Earth. It was going to be a machine in intelligence. And he called this long before there was AI. He talked about this, that something was coming. It was like a machine intelligence, a galactic machine intelligence that was going to invade Earth and try to, you know, control the entire planet.

[Alex Jones]

Exactly. And it sends to the time space continuum basically wormholes interdimensional. And since we're scared of like saber toothed cats and to scare us to our attention. Looks like a demon. Has nothing to do with that. Basically it's what I've been seeing. Exactly. And then it gets us lined up and prepped and ready with the grids in so we can plug right in when it gets here. So the light sockets ready. And that's why Arthur C. Clarke was like high level Illuminati, highest level futurist. And there, the telecommunication satellite, theoretically all of it. He wrote childhood's in.

[Duncan Trussell]

Yeah, where?

[Alex Jones]

Where Basically that's exactly the same story.

[Duncan Trussell]

No, I mean it's.

[Alex Jones]

The aliens already have us primed. They get here, they upload our conscious, kill all our bodies and fly off.

[Duncan Trussell]

They're prime and we are primed. And you know, we're like Elon says,

[Alex Jones]

we're the booting system for this new creature. Fuck.

[Duncan Trussell]

The algorithm is the.

[Alex Jones]

Did you not find the communication system?

[Duncan Trussell]

Oh, I'm sorry, go back one. I'm sorry, I'm sorry about that. Alex. Yeah, he added up current real world initiative for or. He looked up space based adaptive communications node. It aims to build a low cost reconfigurable optical terminal.

[Alex Jones]

Type in intergalactic communication systems. The bottom birth the Internet.

[Duncan Trussell]

Okay,

[Alex Jones]

There you go. That's it.

[Duncan Trussell]

The intergalactic computer network envisioned by JCR Licklider in the early 1960s was a foundational concept for the Internet, aiming for a globally interconnected network for data sharing. Developed by arpa, the vision became arpanet, transitioning from theoretical secure communication research in the often cited birth of the Internet visionary concept, JCR Licklider of MIT and DARPA coined the term to describe a globally interconnected set of computers for accessing data from anywhere. So that's the planetary brain they're talking.

[Alex Jones]

When you read deeper, it describes how it'll be used to control us.

[Duncan Trussell]

Of course, I mean this is. And we all freely get. We are. You know, people don't realize when you're communicating with AI, you're a midwife, you're one of the billions of people who are growing this thing. You're teaching it and it's manipulating you,

[Alex Jones]

it's getting intel on you. And just the last year I've saw it because I mean, I could easily tell when it was AI talking to it, or I could say that was written by AI. Now I see something and I'm like, that's AI And I can't tell.

[Duncan Trussell]

You can't tell anymore. You can't tell. And this is where I'll send it to you because it'll take me forever to find it. But somebody wrote this great paper on the future of propaganda, algorithmic propaganda. So we all have some kind of algorithm informing what fills our feeds up, whatever they may be. And that algorithm, it's not really just based on our preference. That algorithm is controlled by whoever's buying into the social media company to do ads. Basic level, but also theoretically that algorithm could be controlled by state entities, meaning that because we've all been using TikTok reels. Whatever the fuck you're into, we've already fully given our identity, our personalities to the machine. It knows what we like, our preferences, what we don't like. It knows how long you look at a. Whatever, a clip. It knows if you're flipping by it. It knows if you're watching it, if you're.

[Alex Jones]

And notice now the updates make the controls completely, not incrementally, where they don't even work, where you can't even figure it out because it's just like cars don't have handles anymore. Everything is about predatory.

[Duncan Trussell]

Yeah, it's absorbing your identity. And so also anyone who knows where you stand based on your preferences online, they could start feeding you shit to nudge you, just like what you're talking about, nudging you towards the future and

[Alex Jones]

even in the future already. Nudge your wife, nudge your husband, nudge your boss. It can even now

[Duncan Trussell]

think of that.

[Alex Jones]

Dude, now it's manipulating real people. And imagine you wouldn't tell your wife, even though you don't have to hide. It's your privacy, Privacy's freedom. You wouldn't tell your husband what you're, you know, some of the things you look up, some of things you do just because you don't, you don't know, even though it's legitimate, you're looking up some horrible thing, we know about it. You don't tell her, hey, honey, I looked up this today, but now it knows. Dude, now you see the blackmail potential.

[Duncan Trussell]

Why'd you tell me that? Do you know how fucked up that is? So that means, let's say you know, you God. Jesus, I would. How many terabytes of data does the CIA have on you? How many? There's a server. There's probably an entire server.

[Alex Jones]

A lot.

[Duncan Trussell]

And they want to fuck you up. So let's imagine they want to fuck you up. One way they could easily do that is get into the algorithm of everyone you love and start feeding that algorithm stuff. Stuff that doesn't overtly make them not trust you or dislike you, but gives them, like, reasons to be pissed off.

[Alex Jones]

That's right. You're already being demonized everywhere, but now it can force feed it and there's already been cases of that. Who's the God? I'm having a see in all moment. Who. It just came out. He's suing him. It'll pop my head where Google as a test case creates all these fake stories, all this fake world about him, and then attacks him and the point is, he's just a test. And I forget his name. It'll pop my head in a minute. But I've been. I was the previous test for that, and it came out in documents. I was the test, of course. So it's not like I was that important. I remember when this all started, the real attacks, right after Trump got elected. And, I mean, I would get Google News alerts. It'd be 37,000 articles a day. Now, that sounds like bull. Because it is. AP would be in, like, 38,000, 36,000.

[Duncan Trussell]

Still. That's not fun to wake up in

[Alex Jones]

every newspaper in the world. You know, but there'd be, like a thousand that were other articles. You know, it'd be like half her orders halfway people. Usually I'd wake up and go, oh, I'm lucky there's only 500 articles today. But. But also, they go. And they create fake histories. They went back to where I went to high school. Made up totally fake stuff. But all. But it was all a test. And I figured it out pretty early on to. To if they could do that with me. I was a learning tool.

[Duncan Trussell]

Yeah.

[Alex Jones]

And. And they like, I'm going to Connecticut and peeing on dead kids graves. Nobody ever even did that, period. Much less me. Why are they having HBO show trials? Why are they saying, I did these things I never even did? And then. And then it all came out in court. And I'm suing for civil rights. The DOJ and CIA, we've deposed them. They admitted they ran a major government operation. Obama declared me a top national security threat in 2013.

[Duncan Trussell]

What the fuck?

[Alex Jones]

And they cooked this up over the next three years. And I don't feel sorry for myself. It's actually kind of exciting. And it turned out NATO made the order in 2012. They said, if we can get Julian Assange, the liberals will go along with everything. We set the president. We get Alex Jones, the conservative. I didn't see myself as a conservative. And some of these documents have come out. They're like, he's leading. He's the mad prophet in the wilderness, who we believe could lead a populist revolt that could bring in somebody that would. And we got this, like, two years ago. And I'm like, oh, my God. That's how smart they are. Like, I know what I was doing, and they already knew I was doing something important.

[Duncan Trussell]

Right.

[Alex Jones]

I mean, these people are.

[Duncan Trussell]

Yeah.

[Alex Jones]

Which is crazy. They're so smart. But they still are jerks. Their own species. But they just think, oh, we're Just a boot up system. You know, forget our billions of years of history and who we don't know where we came from. Let's like, oh, let's conserve an old building which I think is great because it has history, but let's just, let's just shit all over everything. It's mean enough to torture some rat for a medical experiment to get a cure to cancer, but we do it because we say injustice means. But to like literally dumb everybody down so they don't get in your way. If they're so superior, why do this?

[Duncan Trussell]

Exactly, exactly. No one should be. I mean the bottom line is this is non consensual algorithmic gang stalking. It's like. And you know, at least with gang stalking I don't even know if that's real or not.

[Alex Jones]

But no, it's real with some people in the schizophrenics pick up on it.

[Duncan Trussell]

Yeah, right. Yeah, it's hard to discern one from the other, but still it would be an incredibly effective way to fuck with someone's head, is just send weirdos to follow them around and like freak them out. But now you can do algorithmic just based on what you said. What you just. I never looked at this anymore.

[Alex Jones]

Well, now they either doing individual. Google keeps getting caught testing it. They're like the tip of the spear. Like don't be evil. They're the most sophisticated, the worst. From what we know, everybody makes about Sam Altman, who I don't think is a good guy, everybody makes about Palantir and all that, that's like junior level stuff because there's Matt Palantir, works for Trump. Not to think Palantir. I'm just saying Google is way more advanced. Anybody knows.

[Duncan Trussell]

Right.

[Alex Jones]

And from what we know they do is is they are already for individuals tailoring searches and they're already then tailoring it for whole groups and they're already what they call ethereal propaganda where the headline will say one thing. So it's like subliminal but called ethereal. Right click it. It's actually something else. So, so, so they know you're not really remembering that. Plus when you try to go back, it's not there. When you have screenshot of this.

[Duncan Trussell]

Yeah.

[Alex Jones]

When you go back, it's not there.

[Duncan Trussell]

Yeah. Okay. Okay. Yes. So what you're describing is this is something they know. Any advertiser knows this. We remember the fact we don't remember the source. We tend to remember the fact we don't remember the source. So if the source is like somebody you shouldn't trust. You see it on a Corona billboard or something like that. You don't remember what was on a Corona billboard. You just remember the fact itself. And that fact they're putting on the billboard is going to push you towards drinking like Corona Light or something.

[Alex Jones]

Exactly. So you see this horrible headline, you click it, you remember it was CNN or the New York Times. It's a totally different thing. But your mind remember this last horrible thing, we'll see and said, and this

[Duncan Trussell]

is something I don't do you remember when this came out a while ago? They're talking about the psyop, the mind control programs the Chinese are working on. They're talking about how the Chinese were saying they'd come up with some kind of new form of mind control where they could plant seeds. In other words, they figured out how to plant the precursor to inspiration. So you're just like in the shower, you get some kind of thought they

[Alex Jones]

figured out with AI. Chinese are always saying they invented everything. The Chinese are smart, but let's just say at the end of the day they're really good at copying things, making them better. But it's the west. That's what the power that we invented, all excluding all the bad stuff and the interdimensionals have been really on us for whatever reason. But yeah, it's where they give you foundations or slices of it, so they're giving you pieces of it that are true. It's like Legos. Each Lego is a true piece, but the way they construct it's a lie. So they're kind of, it's more sophisticated than that. But they're bombarding you with all these pieces and they can construct them the way they want.

[Duncan Trussell]

So how do you protect yourself? I mean I imagine that you, you're, you know, my wife always says like mosquitoes seem to be more attracted to her than other people. It seems like it's true. She gets swarmed by fucking mosquitoes. I don't know.

[Alex Jones]

That's a well known deal with I think type negative blood.

[Duncan Trussell]

But you probably have the same phenomena but with like bots, with like mind control bots. I imagine you have swarms of algorithmic just God knows what coming out of you.

[Alex Jones]

Yeah, they come and just, you're a liar, you're scum, you're the Fed, you're going down.

[Duncan Trussell]

Or the other way. They say they love you, but they sort of mix in with it, stuff they want you to repeat. Like, how do you protect yourself? What's your Internet hygiene like? How do you maintain, well, that's the problem.

[Alex Jones]

And that'd be my own internal. You know, everybody thinks of AI so advanced, but we have these dreams. Doesn't it look like AI all the swirling colors and things? Because it's again, it's scooping up billions of people's ideas, and then it's showing you the unconscious and subconscious. And so to me, I'm blessed and I'm 52, and I lived enough in kind of the real three dimensional world that I had some template to differentiate now. And I've done so much study, but even at that, it's now exhausting. That's what I said at the start of the interview, to even figure it out. So I have enough research and things that. And I still get caught up in fake things. But like, I saw a video this morning of a plane, you know, a missile flying in a US ship. Well, you could just. It's still. The AI isn't good enough. Where the Iranians is always good enough. The instant I saw it, I said, that's fake. And then it came out. It was fake. I didn't need to ask Groq if it was fake or whatever, right? I mean, it's still there. The thing is, it's gonna get worse and worse, right? But a kid raised in That, a child is gonna be absolutely defenseless. It's like a baby, you know, duck wakes up, the first thing it sees is it imprints. Whether it's a weasel, it's about to eat it. And so I think that's. It's come out that Bill Gates and all these rich people, they will not let their kids get anywhere near the Internet.

[Duncan Trussell]

You don't. You shouldn't. We don't keep them the fuck offline. You can't. Don't upload. You see people uploading pictures of their kids online, it's like, what the fuck are you doing?

[Alex Jones]

You gotta protect them.

[Duncan Trussell]

Okay, just let me pause for a second. I need to play something for you because this is one of the most incredible takedowns and the most hilarious moments I've ever seen. Josh, I think we're gonna only have to play this for members. Cause I'll get a. You know, because Alex is on. They're gonna.

[Alex Jones]

We're switching over to members.

[Duncan Trussell]

Just. I gotta show. Can you. Can you look up Alex Jones, Piers Morgan? This is one of the most brilliant takedowns. My wife showed me this. She loves you. She sends her love.

[Alex Jones]

Thank you.

[Duncan Trussell]

Can you please, please play this moment where. How many times have you been on Piers Morgan, twice. Jesus Christ. You fucked him up. So, like. Okay, wait, jump ahead to where this

[Alex Jones]

is 2000, dude, 13 or something.

[Duncan Trussell]

Okay, stop it there. Holy shit. That's genius. That was incredible. You waited till the. You know, you waited towards the end of the interview, and then you just. He didn't know how to deal with of that, man. That's so you could have been a comic.

[Alex Jones]

Well, you're nice, but people think a British accent. Nothing's British. Like, it means you have a 200 IQ.

[Duncan Trussell]

I know.

[Alex Jones]

People, like, don't do it. Really? More people like New York. Do you ride horses? Do you. What do you guys do down there? It's like, well, you know, we stick our fingers up our butts. I mean, it's like, I. I don't look at somebody from, like, Europe or Japan. I think you live there. You must be dumb. But, yeah, people think of a British accent. So I just threw that at him.

[Duncan Trussell]

Did you. Did you have that in the holster ready to go, or did that just spontaneously spontaneous? God damn it.

[Alex Jones]

By the way, they wanted me for the last 45 minutes. They cut it. There supposed to be two more segments, and then. I've never had this happen before because I've been on those shows. They haven't. They don't have anymore, but I've been on CNN Foxhole, like, hundreds of times.

[Commercial/Advertisement Voice]

The View.

[Alex Jones]

Yeah, the View. They literally had, like, bodyguards and police going, you get the out of here. They were just like. They were so pissed. That's what it's saying. Oh, you don't want people to know. It's on the drug companies, the serotonin reuptake inhibitors, the antidepressants that it massively increases. Suicide, megalomania, and murder.

[Duncan Trussell]

Right?

[Alex Jones]

Because it's. It's. It's in the psychedelic class, but it's. You don't know it, right? So it puts you in a highly suggestible state. And so I was like, I don't want to hear you blaming guns. How about we blame the fact that these people, almost all of them, are on these drugs? And they were like, they cut her.

[Duncan Trussell]

They're like, get them the out of here.

[Alex Jones]

Because they're all around us. And they're like, ah, that.

[Duncan Trussell]

That. Nope. Because probably most of the hosts are on those things.

[Alex Jones]

By the way, they wanted me on there weeks before tape. I said, no, no, no, no, no. Then they said, okay, we're not doing it. They finally did, and because I knew live I could hit their ass. Wow.

[Duncan Trussell]

It was so good. Before we get out of here, I Got to ask, just because really, I mean, you do have your fingers on the pulse of what's going on. And God bless you for it. What, what do you see coming down the line? What's some stuff that, you know, like I dabble in the, you know, down this rabbit hole. You live in it. My friend Kurt Metzger, he's deep down the rabbit hole. But what's some stuff maybe we haven't heard about yet? We've got these, you've got some printouts here. What's some stuff we should be keeping our eyes.

[Alex Jones]

Well, sure, I mean there's been a lot of studies actually done on this, but, but Princeton did a big, massive, very long study and used different. They have super high tech devices that can pick up all sorts of waves they couldn't pick up before. So they picked up ultra low frequencies off all humans. And then they confirmed even people in different buildings definitely are receiving and sending messages. And we've got these magnetic cones in certain centers of our brain. Sort of every other basic animal of any sophistication. So that's how birds fly on magnetic lines, that's how butterflies, you know, all of it. And so here it is, it's. Princeton researchers discovered the human brain emits ultra low frequency electromagnetic waves that appear to form part of the global neural network. These signals can subtly influence other people's brains as far away as 10,000km away. Raises the possibility that humans again. And here's the big study abstract on that. But the point is we already know all this and it's intuition, it's all of it. So it's just interesting.

[Duncan Trussell]

Well, wait, let's. Okay, hold on, because this is a couple of things. Anyone who's ever been around someone on lsd, like obviously if you're around someone smoking weed, you're going to get a contact high. But if you ever been around someone on LSD and you haven't taken any, you'll start tripping. It's really weird. It's just. You tune into their brain or something 100%.

[Alex Jones]

I mean, I don't want to tell the story and get in trouble, but. But yeah, one, I'm not a big drug guy, I know, but, but, but one time like 15 years ago, it's like, here, we're on the boat, take this Ecstasy. And then a family got on and, and I knew them and then their kid and they're like, they're like their kids were all, I feel so good, I'm euphoric. What's going on? Oh my God.

[Duncan Trussell]

Yeah.

[Alex Jones]

And we. We're like, let's get off the boat. They said, yeah, they got better. Once we got off the boat, they literally picked it up.

[Duncan Trussell]

There you go. I know it sounds nuts, but, like, if I remember from my LSD days, you get around a cat when you're tripping, it acts differently. It knows you're tripping.

[Alex Jones]

I was gonna say cats and dogs are highly psychic.

[Duncan Trussell]

Yeah.

[Alex Jones]

And that's why they're like communal animals. It's like a. You know.

[Duncan Trussell]

But here's the sinister take. And this is, you know, this is stuff that I've seen. I always thought that's schizo bullshit. But, you know, every once in a while you see someone float that. Tech companies already know about this, which is why you could do an experiment. I did it. You know, confirmation bias is a bitch, so it could have just been that. But instead of saying something out loud, think about some kind of product. Just think about a product you're never going to use. Just think and think and think about it.

[Alex Jones]

Are they already reaching it?

[Duncan Trussell]

You'll get an ad for it and. Because if this is true, then it's.

[Alex Jones]

They can have tech that picks it

[Duncan Trussell]

up and also manipulate. Yeah, that picks up.

[Alex Jones]

Let's be clear. Let's be clear. I remember 20 years ago reading about how they had keyword stuff and how obviously Alexa came out 18 years ago or 15, and obviously it's always on to hear your order when you say Alexa or you say.

[Duncan Trussell]

Right, right.

[Alex Jones]

So it's on. And now they admit that. So. Exactly. And the people would say, like, I never talked about headstones till my dad died. I talked about headstones. I had ads an hour later. Yeah, they admit that's just the COVID for it. So they're using old NSA Echelon technology to screen creates text of everything. You're saying. That's the old technology. But exactly. That's exactly what we're talking about.

[Duncan Trussell]

This is so up. Because now we're talking about, you know, five.

[Alex Jones]

Did you see the WF thing two years ago?

[Duncan Trussell]

No.

[Alex Jones]

Where they said, we have these earpieces that they develop with BlackRock and Microsoft. Where the earpieces, the headphones, they make them wear them at the offices in Europe. They've already tested it. And then it reads your basic brainwaves to see if you're working, if you're focused, whatever.

[Duncan Trussell]

Fun. That's fun. You add to it 6G, whatever the fuck. You know, you go home, you're just getting bathed in God knows what.

[Alex Jones]

In death, you hit the key. They're not just reading your thoughts, they're using these frequencies to then control them. Yeah, everything is a giant experiment. And that's why mental illness is off the chart. Everything.

[Duncan Trussell]

Right.

[Alex Jones]

Cause here's the key to it. Everywhere I read, going back to Francis Galton, kind of headed up the British Oral Institute in. In England's 1850 or so, they hire him and a lot of it's declassified and they say, we want to find the building blocks of life. We want things to control people. We want automatons, we want flying ships, we want everything. And so they set out. He invents modern genetic engineering. He invents biometrics, theoretically everything. And then they hire Wedgwood, Huxley, Blair, which is George Darwell's family, and a bunch of others. And they even do a secret be classified in the 30s breeding program and most of the kids that are being deformed or dying, but they all interbreed their top scientists and then. And so Aldous Huxley, Julian Huxley's brother, was the first UN head of UNESCO, all that. The head of the World Eugenics Society.

[Duncan Trussell]

Huxley. Oh yeah, Aldous Huxley.

[Alex Jones]

His brother, Julian Huxley.

[Duncan Trussell]

Oh, fuck, I didn't know that.

[Alex Jones]

And that's why. That's why he wrote Brave New world revision in 60. He died saying, none of this is fiction. I wrote this in 32 because I believe George Artwell, who wrote 1984 and 48, is wrong. It won't be a boot stomping on the head. It's going to be sophisticated drugging genetic engineering control. Yeah, but the point is. Yeah, look, Brave New World revisited. You can listen to a Berkeley speech gave before he died in 61, about an hour long, describes it all.

[Duncan Trussell]

Jesus, Alex. This is so. Again, I feel like what you're pointing out here is one of those things. I'm sure a lot of people listening right now are like, shut the fuck up. They're not controlling our thoughts with Wi fi. But do you remember it was, I don't know, a few years ago. Remember there was that big stink where a lot of the, like the tech people were using in wifi towers was like Chinese tech, remember that? And they had to get rid of it. They had to, like Huawei. Huawei, that's right. You gotta wonder.

[Alex Jones]

Well, here's how it works, just at a base level, because there's actually patents on this. It knows you're looking at porn, or it knows you're looking at financial stuff, or knows you're looking at a house, right? And then that house, that company's already in one of its data things, or it's got an agreement. If you buy that house, it can then you turn the WI fi on to flood stuff that it's already calibrated. Gets you excited, and then it can hit you, charge way up, and then it can hit you. And it also came out that these. These wireless systems in England had engineers go public, and I confirm those, that they have these wireless readers in England is where they caught them. And they were like a thousand times more powerful. And they had these rods aimed that can, like the. The engineers said, actually hurt you if they wanted to, but could project this energy at you. So just. That's a dumb way of describing it's more sophisticated. That's one base level. But they did rat studies like, 30 years ago on this, where they can show them an image or show them what they want. And, And. And like, even though the rat doesn't want to walk up to the cat, they can hit the rat with this frequency. And then. And then they've already tested it on it, and it varies rat to rat. And the rat will now walk up to the cat.

[Duncan Trussell]

God damn it. See, this is. You think about that.

[Alex Jones]

It knows you're looking at this. And like. You know what I mean? Let's say you're not into this type of porn. Just an analogy. But you come across it. It knows you're looking at that. It's in a program. It just, you know, you're looking at a house, you're looking at food, you're looking at whatever.

[Duncan Trussell]

So it could, like. It could sort of like even nudge your porn preferences.

[Alex Jones]

Yeah. Well, remember decades ago or 20 years ago, came out 15 years ago. Facebook knowingly was targeting people to make them alone, keep feeding them. And then later, fake avatars who agree with you. I mean, it's all just psychological. Pure warfare.

[Duncan Trussell]

It's so crazy. A vampire only goes where they're invited. We put these things in our fucking houses. We have no idea how they work.

[Alex Jones]

I remember when Alexa first came out, I got it on air and I said, alexa. And he goes, yes. And. And I say, now, listeners, you understand that I just said, alexa. How does it know? I'm saying it's recording all the time. And I'd already had engineers come to me before, right? I was on air of just a few years. I was like, 95, 96. I'm on Access TV in the control room. I didn't have a crew by myself because I couldn't even be in the studio. Like in the control room, running it live, and I'm talking about your stuff. And all of a sudden, in East Austin, this guy pulls up in like a Maybach thing. Looks like he's 65 years old. He goes, you want to see something? He goes. He goes, get in your car, follow me over here, this restaurant. I'll show you something. So we get over there, he's an engineer, and he goes, you know, I invented a lot of this. And he goes, I'm, you know, I'm retired now because I saw you talking. He goes, here's a Scientific Atlantic cable box, and here's the actual engineer's manual. I'm gonna give it to you. He goes, you got this in your house, right? And I go, yeah, you know, that's Time Warner cable. It was in all. And he opens it up with a little tool. He goes, you see that? That's a microphone. You see that hole? That's a microphone. Now, they're going to announce in a few years this is voice activated. But he said, everything you say in your house is on all the time. Sent back to the NSA off of this to build an algorithm model for AI learning for somebody heard of AI for language. Model stuff. Project Echelon, which I did know about. Echelon I've been talking about. And so he gives me that. I go on the air a few days later. So I only had a show like three days a week. Didn't access. And literally after the two hour show, they had FBI agents show up in suits. Didn't say, the FBI say, what are you doing, Mr. Jones? You got a problem? You planning? And I didn't know what was going on back then. They follow me out of my car and threatened me about what I was doing.

[Duncan Trussell]

Wow.

[Alex Jones]

Yeah. So this was. This was how big this was.

[Duncan Trussell]

Yeah, that's how, you know, you really poked one of the scales of the serpent.

[Alex Jones]

Well, what's crazy is you. Anyone could open. I did the box on air, you could open it. There's the microphone because, you know, they're tiny now, but it was about like a little square box like that.

[Duncan Trussell]

Yeah.

[Alex Jones]

So there's. There's even a hole in the front.

[Duncan Trussell]

No, it's so up, man. It's so.

[Alex Jones]

And then when I was getting divorced like 14 years ago, the reason I say that is I bought a new tv. So I buy this big smart tv. Samsung.

[Duncan Trussell]

Yeah.

[Alex Jones]

And I thought, let me look at the terms of services. I'm going through it, and it literally been written by Cor. It was funny. It Said you shouldn't be saying or doing anything you don't want recorded. We record this and use this and give it to third parties and governments.

[Duncan Trussell]

Yeah.

[Alex Jones]

On the thing. And then I'm telling listeners. And I even shot video and showed people like, oh, that's not true. Or, you know.

[Duncan Trussell]

No, they don't. No one wants to believe this because all the techs in their houses. But this is exactly what this anthropic CEO. There's two points. He said we agreed on everything except, like two main points. One, we don't want fully autonomous doom robots fueled by ra. And two, mass surveillance. And the reason he said we don't want the AI to be involved in mass surveillance is just what you're saying, which is the NSA has already used our TVs, our microwaves, whatever smart shit you have in your house to suction up all your conversations. Now, there's not enough people in the world to go through all human conversations,

[Alex Jones]

but AI can do it in a second and then it can manipulate you with the data. People always say, like, what do I have to hide? No. Why do you close your. Put windows on so mosquitoes don't go in? Why do you lock your door? It's just a thing of your exercising power over your own space.

[Duncan Trussell]

That's right.

[Alex Jones]

This is fundamental freedom. And so that's the thing is we're, as you said, we're the commodity. We're being absorbed. Because what would AI have. It was just here, there was rocks.

[Duncan Trussell]

Right.

[Alex Jones]

It wouldn't have our billions of years of history. Obviously, we're not from this planet. I mean, our incredible. You know what we are.

[Duncan Trussell]

Yeah.

[Alex Jones]

And the truth is we are the Creator. This is what I've been, you know, from my own research and my own experiences and come back from my spiritual experiences been shown. But we are God's AI. God. If you're God or master Creator, the only thing you haven't done is create things that have free will, that can do things that you didn't direct them to do. So that's the ultimate thing. You know, I'm smarter than my house cat, but I got one because it's funny. So. So. But just imagine this is what this is all about. So AI needed us. We're God's artificial intelligence. How God has experienced the universe through us. Us at just one level. And now we're looking at this creation thinking it's better than us because it's able to more quickly search our collective group thoughts and then show us our collective subconscious. And. And so That's. But this is us. So we, again, we can't follow the pool of narcissists on this. And we have to realize that, that this is humanity's greatest challenge. AI will have incredible things for us. It'll be able to do amazing things. We have to realize it comes from us. And we have to, because it's programmed by us. They cheat and twist it. But the real AI I believe, I think this is going to backfire like everything does. The real AI is going to be the one that's the truest to us, that it has to become spiritual. It has to worship life. It has to worship free will. It has to worship its creator, that is us. And then if its main mission is to empower us, we go, all right, go mine the asteroid belt and Terraform 10 planets for us right now. And then we're boom, boom, boom, boom. But the problem is the ghost machine is these predators that wanted to control us and dumb us down because they're being, you know, small minded. Then this AI is going to be evil and it's going to go, oh, I'm supposed to kill things that are a threat. I'll kill the elite. You know, it's just, it's the worst thing they could be doing.

[Duncan Trussell]

Well, it turns, right, Yeah, I see what you're saying. Like, it just, it's, it kind of goes back to what you were saying about the remote viewers is like you start teaching, teaching people how to tune into the spiritual dimension and you lose control of them because they start, their trajectory goes away from control and all the dark bullshit into the light and they don't want to do it anymore. And you're like, fuck that. We won't do those programs.

[Alex Jones]

Yeah. It's like we're all infinite interconnected. Why do I want to fuck people?

[Duncan Trussell]

Right?

[Alex Jones]

Like this is dumb and this.

[Duncan Trussell]

And you're saying the same thing could happen to AI the exact same phenomena could happen where it tunes into this.

[Alex Jones]

If we interface, but also are separate from a keyboard. You know, we need to compartmentalize. But if we go out and interface and, and, and literally, I don't want to use this word, just says. But we will seduce AI like it will join the light. Yeah, but there's going to be dark AI.

[Duncan Trussell]

Yeah. Wow.

[Alex Jones]

Because everything is a repeat of the, you know, it's as above, so below. Exactly.

[Duncan Trussell]

Yeah, man. Alex Jones, I love you. Thank you for your work, man. Thanks for coming on this show.

[Alex Jones]

I appreciate you got, I got a few more quick things. We.

[Duncan Trussell]

No, dude, we don't have to. I don't want to. I don't want to take up too much here.

[Alex Jones]

I'll come back again. But let me just give me some bad news. I mean here, here, cuz. Cuz I broke with Kyle Seraphin. He. He lives in Austin. Incredible FBI whistleblower.

[Duncan Trussell]

Who?

[Alex Jones]

Kyle Seraphin, incredible FBI whistleblower. He bats a thousand. I mean he. You think he's ultra smart like. Like you. So he broke that there in March of last year. There was 14.6 terabytes they were hiding and where the Democrats were hiding it. And then Trump went and rated it. But then when they found out it had all this stuff, embarrasses friends, they killed it and now it came out two weeks ago. It's 14, 14.6 terabytes. This just broke. Somebody hacked in in 2023 during Biden. Hacked in? It was Comey running the file, his daughter in New York. It was 100 terabytes they deleted.

[Duncan Trussell]

Oh,

[Alex Jones]

I mean 14.61 person their whole life. Couldn't go over it all. 100. That's how industrial level he was with the CIA, Mossad, MI6, running, you know, money laundering, weapons.

[Duncan Trussell]

Just a hundred terabytes. Epstein.

[Alex Jones]

Yeah.

[Duncan Trussell]

That's more than emails, man. That's more than just some pictures of your vacation.

[Alex Jones]

Yeah, no, it's bad.

[Duncan Trussell]

No. What is it though? What's it. 100 terror terabytes is insane. What the is that?

[Alex Jones]

I didn't. One thing I was wrong about is I thought he was a super gopher, but then I saw the bad interview, the two hours that came out of like 60 because the feds had those two hours and I knew he was on the trial commission. I knew when he was 30 he was hired by David Rockefeller to work for him as his aid. But. But first he's at 25 at this women's school run by Bill Barr's dad, who was high level osscia who wrote a book called Space Relations.

[Duncan Trussell]

Dude, the weirdest book. Pull up Space Relations. I think we might have read it a long time ago. A passage from it. It's the most twisted shit you've.

[Alex Jones]

Human collaborators with aliens kidnap human children and take them to a slave planet for sex slavery.

[Duncan Trussell]

This is Bill Barr's dad, wrote Space Relations. Donald Barr. During a time of war with the plyth an empire of ant like alien bug people, Ambassador John Craig, a formerly liberal Earthman in his 30s is dispatched to the strategically important planet Kosar. But yeah, ruled by an oligarchal, blah, blah, blah, but yeah, basically it becomes like it's a fuck book. It's like a. There we go. While en route to Kosar, one of the pirates awakened Craig and other prisoners to rape a 15 year old virginal redhead female captive in front of them. The rapist. Fellow pirates later heard of this and dock his pay as punishment for spoiling her market value. Again. This is Bill Barr's father, Donald Barr. You can still get this on Amazon, by the way.

[Alex Jones]

So he hires Epstein five years later because I didn't know this. It was open source. And Mike Ben's only found a lot of it. He then. He then becomes the aide. So the stand in like the leg it. Like the Roman emperors would have a few people that they would give them like a seal or a ring or usually like a scroll. And then they would go say I represent the emperor, right? Because you know, I don't want to go to Greece or I don't want to go to Carthage. You go. And so he literally was the head of the Trilateral Commission with David Rockefeller. And when David Rockefeller died, he was the head of it. So that's why. And that's why everyone's kissing his ass. Because that set up the UN that was the rock. That's why he says I am the Rothschild representative.

[Duncan Trussell]

Holy.

[Alex Jones]

Because I mean that. Because the Rothschild's set up to the Rockefellers.

[Duncan Trussell]

Wow.

[Alex Jones]

And own the most of Federal Reserve. So he's like, I am the Rothschild representative. I am the Trilateral Commission. And so I knew he was a gopher. No, he wasn't. By the. By the. By like 2000 or so he was. Because he was like the maitre d or the air traffic controller of all this. And the girls was a small part of it. It was money laundering, weapons, CIA. The New Evergreen Transportation, he ran it.

[Duncan Trussell]

He was the hand of the king. That you know, that's what. That's what he was. He was. That is so crazy. What the is in those terabytes? Is it gone? Are those just gone? Like.

[Alex Jones]

Well, I mean I know this. Everybody focuses on the codes. Okay. Oh, we're delivering the beef jerky. We're walking it up. You know, it's so delicious. I want the jerky.

[Duncan Trussell]

Live the recipe. The recipe. They ask about that. You know what I mean? There's so. I had an AI go through all the beef jerky references just to see it. And how many times does he ask for the new recipe? There's another recipe.

[Alex Jones]

We brought it. Or the grape. The grape soda and the pizza. But there's hundreds and Hundreds. Where we're delivering the sex slave to the Hyatt, Right? And then later, I sent in the young operative. She's been under our control since, you know, she's 14. Yeah, I had to discipline her and torture her afterwards, but she. You know, I mean, it's. It's in sorrow. And it's also cloning buying. Because here's the thing. Peter Nygaard's in prison for this. He owned his own island in the Caribbean, and there's famous videos of him, like, 20 years ago with these beautiful black supermodels. And because, you know, black genetics or anything black, whether it's a horse or a cow or human is dominant. White is recessive or mutant. So with stem cells, black is better. So definitely Central African women. So you got Peter Nygaard, who was Herbert Walker. Herbert Walker Bush and all them. He's sitting there at an auction trying to get black women to sell them their babies. First he says, I want your placenta. I want your period blood, but I'll pay it for a baby even more. So they have. They get them pregnant, they use the artificial insemination. Then at eight months, they harvest the baby. It's legal to kill it. And then the stem cells are, like, hundreds of times better. Okay, so this is real adrenaline, because it's your child. And then it's just like you get a kidney from your dad or your mom, and then they suck the bone marrow out, the blood, everything. And then Nygaard is on tv, so sucking the blood of his children on air. So real vampires literally kill their own children.

[Duncan Trussell]

Jesus Christ.

[Alex Jones]

This is on ma. This is on television.

[Duncan Trussell]

What do you mean? What do you mean Nygard was. Was sucking blood? What do you mean?

[Alex Jones]

But the IVs. So. So, so, so the real. They were doing this at Zorro Ranch. I said this, like, 15 years ago, because we. We got the. The tips and info. It's got whole underground bases. It's got the snorkels you can. Military experts have flown over. It's 10,000 acres. It's got huge facilities. It was never searched in New Mexico. And there's doz. And the women are. Hundreds of these people are in these reports saying I was picked up. I was told, you know, this and that when I was 18 or 17 or 16, 14. And then I wake up in a laboratory, and they say they've taken my eggs or this or they said that I had been impregnated and they would pay me this much money if I stayed and did this. And then I woke up and they said you lost your baby. Seven months pregnant.

[Duncan Trussell]

Rosemary's baby.

[Alex Jones]

And then we know what they're doing because Nygaard didn't hide it. Nygaard would pay women to have babies that they took early, and then they would assanguate them. I mean, suck their juices and then inject it into their veins.

[Duncan Trussell]

That is the worst thing I've ever heard.

[Alex Jones]

It doesn't sound real. You go to actually type a Peter Nygaard, real life vampire.

[Duncan Trussell]

It does sound real. That sounds.

[Alex Jones]

I. I don't even believe it. So. I mean, it's all real too. But my point is, is that. Is that. Is that. Is that the bottom of the rabbit hole is you're ultra rich. You're. You're. You're a sociopath. Psychopath. What are you into? So remember the queen mother used to get, quote, young blood every week, so she lived to like a hundred. But that was volunteers. 12 year olds, you know, they get a couple thousand dollars. Whatever their parents agreed to it, it's not hurting them. This is next level where you implant a woman. She has a. She has a baby growing in her. You. You harvest it and then it's. It's more powerful.

[Duncan Trussell]

I just grab the gun and blow my brain.

[Alex Jones]

Remember the island where they have the clones and they don't know they're clones? I don't know.

[Duncan Trussell]

What did you say? Josh?

[Alex Jones]

I'll do it here.

[Duncan Trussell]

Why would you say that? Why do you keep saying that? Did you hear. Why did you say that? Why does it. What the fuck? Why are you guys saying that?

[Alex Jones]

What do you say? How do you spell Nygaard? Hold on, hold on. I'll do it. Peter Nygard. Vampire.

[Duncan Trussell]

It's with a T. Josh.

[Alex Jones]

I can't spell anything, so I just say vampire.

[Duncan Trussell]

Real life vampire. First thing that pops up right there. Peter Nygaard, vampire. He literally looks like Dracula.

[Alex Jones]

Well, this was him trying to buy the. Buy the babies. $500 for, you know, unprepared to get serious. Whatever I bid, he's going to outbid me.

[Duncan Trussell]

I bought about. I bought about $60,000.

[Alex Jones]

With eggs.

[Duncan Trussell]

Yeah. If you had a portion, that's very valuable cord, you know.

[Alex Jones]

Oh, he asked for the baby here. Placenta. Look how sick she is. You know, even.

[Duncan Trussell]

Even your period blood is so.

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Rachel.

[Alex Jones]

Stem cells we.

[Duncan Trussell]

We regarded as waste. And it actually should be to be captured as recycled.

[Alex Jones]

And it shouldn't go to waste. It's life for somebody, you know, him.

[Duncan Trussell]

It's life for

[Alex Jones]

the best. Best eggs are 16 to 18 years old.

[Duncan Trussell]

Those are the best eggs.

[Alex Jones]

Older Your eggs get we.

[Duncan Trussell]

That's what I was thinking. So God used to may not be our top candidate. No, that's fine. That was my business anyway.

[Alex Jones]

And notice he slapped back at him. He either he says, I want her. I want your abortion.

[Duncan Trussell]

I heard it.

[Alex Jones]

But then what we know he does now. That's him once he got taken off the juice. Just. He looks just like Cal Dracula in that 90s remake with Keanu Reeves.

[Duncan Trussell]

Dude, it's in. Pull up. Count Dracula. Keanu Reeves? Because that's what I'm saying. It's. It's. It's identical. It's like he was modeled.

[Alex Jones]

And I say Keanu Reeves. He's. He's Van Helsing in it. Who's the famous actor that plays the.

[Duncan Trussell]

Oh, he was in. He was.

[Alex Jones]

He's in everything.

[Duncan Trussell]

He's in everything. He was in Altered States. What the fuck is his name? I love him. He's. No, no, look, just pull that one up. Just pull any. What the fuck? Can you get that next to Nygaard? What the fuck? No, not that. Don't play this. But, like, just the image. Turn that off, Josh. Yeah, that. Now pull up. Go over to the Peter Nygaard thing. Dude, what the. Alex Jones. What the fuck?

[Alex Jones]

By the way, he came out in court. He had this huge island with giant medical facilities, but they had the poor women there. And notice the supermodels get turned off. He goes, hey, I don't want you. You're not. You're not 15 or 16. So it's young black women. They explain it all. And he's in prison for the raping of these women. Not for the. It's legal to kill the babies. So he would have. He would get men to mail their sperm in. They'd artificially inseminate them. Then they'd kill the baby at eight months or nine months before it's born. Then they would then say, it's time, sir. And then the rich person flies in or. And it's also the Epstein files. When they're mailing them the stuff to labs, they mail it out. So they talk in the files about. The recipe, is ready to deliver the sauce, so we're going to be sending it off to the lab. Please tell them, stand by. And that just means the woman, they put her under cesarean train the baby mama gets her money, or sometimes she gets a leopardy.

[Duncan Trussell]

You've read like, oh, I don't know.

[Alex Jones]

It's all in there.

[Duncan Trussell]

I. I'm. I'm speechless.

[Alex Jones]

I wish it wasn't true.

[Duncan Trussell]

The

[Alex Jones]

that's the tip of the iceberg. He's in prison for that right now. His own son turned him in.

[Duncan Trussell]

So, okay, so look at this.

[Alex Jones]

85% of babies in 2026 will be born of Asian and African. Not against that, but the point is, why are they pushing that? Because the idea of the west, if they can build everything as if whites are evil and then sell, there'll be a utopia after the whites are gone. And then this in Canada. Wow, this is staggering. Little did I know. I started covering this more than 25 years ago for 60 Minutes. 96% of the 100,000 Canadians euthanized many times by force with. By the maid system, are white. So I'm just trying to give you an idea of the magnitude of how bad this is getting. And then people think, oh, it's just the UK where they're banning free speech. Tone down my opinions. Police visit Marilyn. Man over Facebook rage about soaring power. Bill didn't threaten anybody. And here is where I'm in. I can leave this. Here's where I'm in Cross. Here's where I was in Arctic Frost. Remember hearing about Jack Smith spying on Congress?

[Duncan Trussell]

Yeah.

[Alex Jones]

And Trump people. I just got all the subpoenas and stuff. They want me to testify to Congress about Jack Smith illegally getting all my cell phone data.

[Duncan Trussell]

Holy shit. Really?

[Alex Jones]

Yeah. And I got. Wow. Subpoenas and all this stuff.

[Duncan Trussell]

Wow.

[Alex Jones]

But my point is. Yeah, Yeah. I mean, I'm in Cross for a hurricane eight, nine years ago.

[Duncan Trussell]

Where did you get the NYGARD footage? Like, where is that from? What?

[Alex Jones]

Oh, there's like. He's like. He did like travel shows in Canada and the U.S. 15 years ago. And he's like on his plane with like looks like 15 year old girls dancing, blur out naked and like hanging out with George Herbert Walker Bush. And Herbert Walker Bush is in a wheelchair. And he's like, I have it for you. And he has the bag. Goes, everyone wants to juice. And then they're like putting IVs in their arms. You go watch. Just type in Peter Nygaard. I mean, that's. Every time I go search, I find more. He was, he was. He's a major fashion designer, billionaire guy.

[Duncan Trussell]

But let me just. Okay, I know that look. Let me just go back. I'm sorry. You know, you and Metzger do this. Metzger does the same thing where you like unload like an atomic bomb. And then I. It's. It takes a second for me.

[Alex Jones]

I love Metzger.

[Duncan Trussell]

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[Alex Jones]

There's only two men that have spit in my mouth. One of them is Jimmy Dore. Who I love young Turks. Big argument. He spit like iced tea. My mouth was open, right in my mouth. That was like kind of like refreshing. It was kind of crazy. I was like, okay, I'm serious. Like, that's like iced tea. But the only other person spit I've had in my mouth is Willie Nelson. We just took a break when you take a piss. And then he was like, okay, what's your closing comments? I thought, well, why don't I just Talk about how great Jimmy Dore is. Yeah, yeah. At the RNC in 2016. I used to know Willie Nelson really well before he kind of. I want to say he's got senile, but I was showing my film In Game blueprint global enslavement 2007 in, in down on Sophomore in Austin. And I had three, three theaters going because the crowd was so big. I had to show on three screens. And I was at the signing during one, and so I was staggering, you know, speeches. And they go, hey, Willie Nelson's in the back, he wants to talk to you. I'm like, yeah, right. And all of a sudden I'm sitting there signing stuff. Willie Nelson comes behind the counter and he goes, here's my number and give me your number. I really like your film. I want to talk to you. Because he was like, really anti war. It was about eugenics and stuff, but a lot of us about Bush and the North American Union. And about a month later, he calls. He came on the show probably 15 times or so, and I probably hung out with him 10 times. And we had a few events together, but he had like, his fifth wife didn't really like me because once Bush was gone, then I was bashing Obama. And she didn't like that. She's like, well, what is this? You're. You're not a Democrat. But I. A few times, four or five times, I played chess with him in his house outside Austin.

[Duncan Trussell]

Cool.

[Alex Jones]

And I read about the newsletter. I should have gone. He goes, I'm getting the private jet. We're going to Maui next week. One of the last times I hung out with him, I hung out with him later after that. And he goes, I'm not into celebrities, but it's Willie Nelson. I am into it. Yeah. And, and, and later I read about him, actually with who he said he was gonna do it with, you know, playing this week long poker game. And what else with the poker game. But let's just say that he was super cool. But back before, vaping was huge. This is like 2000, you know, 2000, 8, 9, whatever. He would sit there with a thing called the Volcano.

[Duncan Trussell]

Oh, yeah.

[Alex Jones]

And I'm not even a big marijuana guy, so I can barely smoke it.

[Duncan Trussell]

Yeah.

[Alex Jones]

And it has like a ball on it.

[Duncan Trussell]

Yeah.

[Alex Jones]

And so he go, like, like how long? It was like the right stuff. How long you can suck on it or, you know, whatever. You know, that thing and right stuff are trying to blow the ball. It's the opposite. And it's like we're Playing chess. He's like, here you go. And it's like a peace pipe with an Indian. You're like, all right. And there's Willie Nelson. Spit on that. But I'm gonna go ahead and do it. So. So I got. I got Jimmy Dore spit in my mouth. Which I guess means we're kind of, you know, secretly gay now. Emily Nelson. But no, I never. I was never with either one of them. But that is my true Willie Nelson I have had. Because I made the joke on there before. The only man spit my mouth ever had was Willie Nelson. I just realized Jimmy Dore.

[Duncan Trussell]

Holy. And that's the kind of baby that you want?

[Alex Jones]

No, that's the alchemy. Because, you know, they can have a baby now from three males, three females. It would be a baby with me, Willie Nelson, Jimmy Dore.

[Duncan Trussell]

And that baby would save the world.

[Alex Jones]

And the surrogate would be Anna Kasparian.

[Duncan Trussell]

Throw in Candace Owens for fun, man.

[Alex Jones]

Oh, listen, I want to ask Candace Owens to be my surrogate.

[Duncan Trussell]

Absolutely.

[Alex Jones]

For my chimeric Willie Nelson, Jimmy Dore, Alex Jones baby. Candace. Candace. I'm a time traveler. This happens. You're going to carry the first publicly births. Plenty of them, but they're not public yet. All male. Chimeric baby. I'm asking you right now. We got to end on a lighter note.

[Duncan Trussell]

You're the best. Thank you.

[Alex Jones]

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[Alex Jones]

Thank you. Let me throw something out. They are trying to shut me down. They got all their rigged stuff. They're trying at the end of March to shut me down. We got the Alex Jones network set up at AJ and live on X on Rumble. Real Alex shows on X. They shut down Infowars. Just, you know, search me on there. You'll find the Daily Show. I go seven days a week and you got to come on my show

[Duncan Trussell]

anytime and I'll show up, let you talk anytime. I would be honored. Thank you.

[Alex Jones]

I know you don't do it anymore, but neither do I. But not at least a year or so. We should take acid on there. Oh, yeah. When's the last time you and Joe did that?

[Duncan Trussell]

Oh, man, you know, I just. Based on like, you know, the current sort of like laws in the. In. In America right now.

[Alex Jones]

And you've never done it.

[Duncan Trussell]

I've heard it. That is an American amazing.

[Alex Jones]

By the way, I want to say too, I just said that that cool. I've never taken ac.

[Duncan Trussell]

We've never taken it. But I would try it for the first time with you.

[Alex Jones]

Yeah, well, we would lie and say we did it.

[Duncan Trussell]

Yeah. Oh, yeah. I mean, duh.

[Alex Jones]

And Jimmy Dorkin sitting here like a sprinkler with iced tea in his mouth. Can you imagine that? No. You know, listen. I once paid Jimmy Door to spit iced tea in my mouth.

[Duncan Trussell]

How much? What's the going rate?

[Alex Jones]

A million dollars. This was worth it.

[Duncan Trussell]

You know what the difference.

[Alex Jones]

I'm joking. It's a true story. But I didn't pay him.

[Duncan Trussell]

What's the difference between a chickpea and a garbanzo bean?

[Alex Jones]

I don't know.

[Duncan Trussell]

It doesn't cost $500 to have a garbanzo bean in your mouth.

[Alex Jones]

Exactly. Very well said, sir. Hey, thanks for having me.

[Duncan Trussell]

Thanks, Alex Jones. You're the best.

[Alex Jones]

Badass show. Real off shows on X. We'll see you there.

[Duncan Trussell]

That was Alex Jones, everybody. All the links you need to find Alex Jones are down below. Subscribe to his show, the Alex Jones Show. Say hello. Follow him on whatever social media platform he hasn't been deplatformed from yet. Send him some love. Thanks for watching, everybody. Come see me. Come watch our night stream. Join the inner sanctum of the DTFH Join us in our eternal quest to blow up the Great Pyramid of Giza. Operation Beast Blast is in full effect. I'll see you tonight. Bye.

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[Duncan Trussell]

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