756: Rat Utopia

Summary

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Podcast Summary: Duncan Trussell Family Hour

Episode 756: "Rat Utopia"

Release Date: June 14, 2026
Host: Duncan Trussell
Key Guest/Co-Host: Josh and others

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Episode Overview

This episode of "The Duncan Trussell Family Hour" explores the concept of reality tunnels, the persistence of superstition and ritual through history, modern examples of societal "curses," and the pathologies of contemporary internet culture. Duncan weaves together historical anecdotes, philosophical musings, and relatable humor, culminating in a live-online "curse banishing ritual." The episode is a classic DTFH journey through ancient myth, cultural repetition, collective psychology, and Internet weirdness, with Duncan questioning the boundaries between ancient superstition and modern society’s “rational” rituals.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Consensus Reality & Reality Tunnels

[03:00–06:00]

• Duncan notes how social media algorithms expose people to others' “reality tunnels,” ranging from harmless delusions to obsessive social fixations.
• He recounts falling into a rabbit hole following a woman who believes she’s married to actor Shia LaBeouf, reflecting on the scale and persistence of personal alternative realities online.
• Quote:

  “It’d be easy to call them crazy ... but when you waggle your little sane finger, you gotta really take a look at your own life and all the crazy shit you believe in.” — Duncan, [03:50]

2. Ancient Rituals vs. Modern Superstitions

[05:45–13:00]

• Discussion of how ancient Mesopotamians used exorcists (ašipu) as a form of spiritual doctors.
• Parallels are drawn between ancient protective rituals and modern behaviors—e.g., Covid masks as contemporary amulets.
• Exploration of cultural child sacrifice (Moloch, Aztecs) and the false belief that society has outgrown these violent rituals.
• Duncan draws a controversial, provocative analogy to recent events (Kermit Gosnell case), arguing that rebranded rationales mask what is fundamentally unchanged in human nature.
• Quote:

  “It’s the same thing. Killing babies is killing babies ... It’s just right now, the gods aren’t Sumerian gods. The gods now are the Dao.” — Duncan, [24:45]

3. Cymatics & Cultural Patterns

[22:10–25:00]

• Explains cymatics—the study of visible sound vibrations—and uses it as a metaphor for “cultural cymatics.”
• Suggests societies create repeating patterns under the influence of “vibrations” like money (the Dao), mythologies, or mass psychology.
• Quote:

  “When certain vibrations emanate through any culture, it’s always gonna form the exact same pattern, but the salt is whatever symbols or mythologies of the time.” — Duncan, [23:55]

4. Modern Curses, Placebo, and Sports Superstition

[27:28–31:00]

• Josh recounts the story of a supposed “Trump curse” on the Knicks after a disastrous finals game visit.
• Discussion of whether curses are real or merely powerful placebos; references the impact of collective belief in sports and society.
• Quote:

  “Here we have a modern day emergent story that has mythical proportions. The Dark King comes to the game. His cymatic emanations create a vibration that produces failure for the Knicks.” — Duncan, [29:36]

5. Revenge, Curses, and the Power of Letting Go

[33:00–41:00]

• Duncan discusses the dangers of vengeance—both mystical (curses) and practical (obsessive grudge-holding).
• Shares advice allegedly from Satanists: the best “curse” is personal happiness and success.
• References biblical (“Vengeance is mine, saith the Lord”) and samurai (“you will see the bodies of your enemies float by”) philosophies.
• Points out the energetic cost and psychic risks for the curse-giver, favoring release and self-improvement.

6. Live Online Curse-Banishing Ritual

[45:00–48:50]

• Duncan leads listeners in a group curse-banishing, reading aloud William S. Burroughs’ classic curse removal incantation.
• Quote:

  “Lock them out and block the door. Bar them out forevermore... Curse, go back. Curse, go back. Back with double pain and lack.” — William S. Burroughs (recited), [45:53]

7. Folk Magic and Blended Spiritual Traditions

[48:54–51:00]

• Josh shares his grandmother’s Catholic/folk-magic curse removal involving an egg and the rosary, and they discuss how religions incorporate old magical practices.
• The conversation moves to Saint Anthony (patron of lost items), and the blending of magic with mainstream faiths.

8. Modernity, Demonology & “Rat Utopia”

[51:00–55:00, 53:26 for “Rat Utopia” segue]

• Duncan philosophizes on the unreality and permeability of modernity, suggesting that ancient fears and magical thinking persist under new guises.
• Discussion turns to the "Rat Utopia" experiments: rats provided with unlimited resources become listless, sterile, and obsessed with self-grooming—drawn as a metaphor for contemporary society’s aimlessness and obsession with image (“looksmaxing”).
• Quote:

  “You have to ask yourself, what other things are real that we imagine are from ancient times? ... Sometimes, you gotta ask: do I have a demon?” — Duncan, [51:00]

9. Internet Personalities, Loneliness & Looksmaxing

[54:12–60:00]

• Discussion of internet influencer “Clavicular” and the phenomenon of people undergoing extreme body modifications to pursue external validation.
• Duncan diagnoses it as a deeper craving for love, human connection, and touch, not attainable through image or surgery.
• Quote:

  “Clavicular wants to be held…They think the only way to make that happen is by sledgehammering their cheekbones. How sad is that?” — Duncan, [55:59]

10. Symbolic Ruin: Hitler, Karen, and Collective Memory

[67:02–75:00]

• Reflects with humor on the ways culture can be permanently warped by negative figures—how Hitler “ruined” 4/20, the mustache style, swastika, and even Fanta (origin story discussed).
• Parallel drawn with the social creation of "Karen" as an identity synonymous with entitlement and negativity.
• Quote:

  “You can be such a piece of shit that long after you’re dead, people are shaving that little square under their nose…and can’t wear it because of you.” — Duncan, [71:55]

11. Language, Perception & Ego

[77:41–90:00]

• Listener submits a comment about cymatics, consciousness, and perception of reality.
• Discussion of how language shapes perception (e.g., Spanish vs. English framing of cause/effect).
• Explores ego using the “Japanese Cube Test” as a springboard for discussing self-concept, social anxiety, and identity illusions.
• Duncan deconstructs the paradox of ego death and the recursive trap of trying to “have no ego.”
• Quote:

  “Anytime you become self-reflective, it’s a house of mirrors…That’s your ego bouncing off itself creating feedback.” — Duncan, [89:50]

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• Consensus Reality and Self-Doubt:

  “Just because you subscribe to some kind of reality that the majority subscribe to…doesn’t mean you’re fucking sane.” — Duncan, [04:28]

• Rituals Then and Now:

  “Covid masks…if you want to put salt in a circle around you, do it. I don’t know, maybe it fucking works…but my point is, nothing’s really changed that much.” — Duncan, [08:26]

• On Modern ‘Gods’:

  “The gods now are the Dao. It’s the same as saying ‘Lord Narvoth of the Seventh Vale has become angry at us.’” — Duncan, [24:53]

• On Cursing and Vengeance:

  “If you wanna fuck somebody up, become happy and have success.” — Duncan, [33:55]

• The Curse Banishing Ritual:

  “If you feel some kind of curse has been placed upon you…today I’m gonna offer you a chance to remove whatever your curses may be.” — Duncan, [44:30]
  “Curse, go back. Curse, go back. Back with double pain and lack.” — Read by William S. Burroughs, [45:53]

• On “Rat Utopia” & Society:

  “You put a bunch of rats in a place where they have everything they need…and the next thing you know, they just stop reproducing…they actually become better rats.” — Duncan, [53:33]

• On Looksmaxing:

  “All these people…are shattering their fucking bones to just feel someone’s touch. That’s all it is.” — Duncan, [56:00]

• On Ego and Self-Reflection:

  “You don’t have to worry about your ego…it’s like killing a Smurf—they’re not real.” — Duncan, [90:41]

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Important Timestamps

• 03:00 – Social media algorithms, reality tunnels
• 05:45 – Mesopotamian exorcists, ritual, and masks
• 10:55 – Ancient child sacrifice; modern analogs
• 22:10 – Cymatics metaphor
• 27:28 – The “Trump curse,” sports and superstition
• 33:00 – On revenge, curses, advice from Satanists
• 45:53 – William S. Burroughs curse-banishing incantation
• 53:26 – Rat Utopia and society’s loss of purpose
• 54:50 – Clavicular, looksmaxing, internet loneliness
• 67:02 – Hitler’s legacy, symbolic ruin
• 77:41 – Language shapes perception; listener superchat
• 88:00 – The Cube Test and ego discussion
• 90:41 – Smurf ego/identity analogy

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Episode Tone & Style

Duncan’s tone is irreverent, philosophical, playful, and frequently tangential. He blends personal anecdote, comic riffing, and deep dives into culture, myth, and history, always circling back to big existential questions. The language is explicit, deeply casual, and filled with pop-cultural asides—the DTFH signature style.

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For Listeners Who Missed It

This episode is for you if you’re fascinated by why humans repeat old patterns under new rationales, whether society has outgrown ancient superstition, and how the internet warps or mirrors collective psyche. It offers insight, humor, and a cathartic (if tongue-in-cheek) ritual to banish negativity—rooting the show’s chaos in a message of connection, self-acceptance, and playful skepticism about the nature of reality.

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Transcript

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[Unknown Guest]

Hi.

[Josh]

Oh, welcome, welcome, my sweet. Loves to the DTFH Live, AKA the Day stream, or the Stream of day. If you want to get specific about what this is. We've got a lot to talk about, my friends. A lot has been going on. For those of you who are into the night stream. I haven't been able to do the night stream lately because I'm moving my personal podcast studio to another zone and that's not gonna be ready until July. Not this one with Josh, of course, in the day. But what you've been watching the night stream from. Unfortunately, I can't move in until July, so we're gonna be doing more of these day streams until that happens. Also, I've been on the road a ton. Thank you to all of you who came out to the shows in Asheville and Charlotte. That was super fun. I got some more shows coming up, just a few weeks from heading to Nashville and the Wilbur in Boston. And as long as I'm plugging shit, why not tune in to another Mystery Boys tonight on ymh? It's a good one. We called Jeffrey Epstein. I'm not gonna give any spoilers on that. And I don't know, maybe it is hanging out with Metzger. I don't know, maybe it's talking to some people online. I've been thinking about some real weird shit lately, man. Real weird shit. Maybe it's just the algorithm. Josh, you were talking about this. Your algorithm suddenly changed. It's been giving you very strange stuff.

[Josh's Co-host or Friend]

Yeah. Lingerie.

[Josh]

You just saw one lingerie?

[Josh's Co-host or Friend]

Yeah.

[Josh]

That's great, because my algorithm's changed, too. It's giving me people who are in some really fascinating reality tunnels, man. Holy shit. Like this one lady who is Shia LaBeouf's. Is that how you say his last name? LaBeouf? LeBeouf LeBoeuf? Shia LaBeouf. I didn't mean that as some boofing joke, by the way. I'm genuinely confused by how you say his name, but yeah, Shia LaBeouf. Stalker who thinks that she's married to him, just posts constantly messages to him. And one night it's like, do you want to see this? Look at this. And I started watching it and whoa. It wasn't necessarily the content, which I have to admit, like, the production quality is kind of low. It's not. So, you know, it could be a lot better. No offense, if you're watching this Shia LaBeouf stalker, but it's the sheer amount of things that she's posted, it's fun to scroll to the end. You want to see where it starts. And sometimes when you're seeing somebody who's in a strange reality tunnel, you can actually trace all the way back to the beginning when it started, when they decided that they were going to marry Shia LaBeouf. And it just goes on and on and on and on and on and on. I couldn't get to the bottom of it. Thousands and thousands and thousands of these. And because I looked at that, I've been getting more and more and more and more people living in alternate timelines. Now. It would be easy to call them crazy. It would be a simple thing to call them schizo. It would be an easy thing to say, these people are out of their fucking minds. And I'm not saying that they're not. But the problem is, when you waggle your little sane finger calling someone else insane, you have to really take a good look at your own life and all the crazy shit you believe and make sure that you're not also completely batshit in the sense that just because you're subscribing to some kind of version of reality that the majority of people subscribe to, AKA consensus reality, doesn't mean you're fucking sane. You could have been born into some kind of, I don't know, a country of, let's say, people who are into child sacrifice and summoning demons. And everyone's into that. People just think it's normal to sacrifice children. They think it's normal to summon demons, to trap them in pentagrams and crystals and then use them to wreak havoc on the world or to do good things. I mean, you have to ask yourself, if you summoned a demon and you send it to do good things, it's still a good thing. I guess that's for a different podcast when we have, like, a demonologist on or something like that. But I've been thinking about this a lot, you know, this idea of consensus reality, but most importantly, how nothing's really changed. We've just sort of rebranded you know, like, come with me on a journey through time Come with me. Take your clothes off, take your shirt off. You can't wear clothes in my time machine. You know that, right? I mean, trust me, I'm the only one who can wear clothes in my time machine. Come with me on a journey through time Take off your boots, take off your high heels Leave them in my sniffing basket and come with me to ancient Mesopotamia. Pull that up, Josh,

[Josh's Co-host or Friend]

on YouTube.

[Josh]

That thing we pulled up earlier, you've got it on one of the tabs there. Ancient Mesopotamia. Now I read this is just the AI overview, but I read this really interesting piece on ancient Mesopotamia and they had these exorcists that for them were like doctors. Like, you know, we know the Catholic church has exorcists. I don't know if any other churches have them, but even that is kind of looked at is like fucking nuts, you know, like really exorcist. Casting demons out of people. Really. I mean it's great for movies, but come on, really. But back in ancient Mesopotamia, they didn't think of it as crazy, they thought of it as normal. Like it was a normal thing to hire an exorcist known as an a sipu. I don't know what that bindi thing over the S means. A shipu. An a shipu. Is it a shush? A shipu. Ancient Mesopotamians protected themselves from curses and malevolent magic by hiring highly trained exorcist priests, a shipu. To perform complex ceremonies. Protection strategies included wearing bell shaped amulets, drawing salt or flower circles around the home, placing protective demon trapping bowls under door thresholds, and burning effigies of the sorcerers responsible. Now a modern person. We're all modern people here. We have electric light illuminating us, we have self driving cars, we have technology, we have computer chips running everything. Our refrigerators talk to us. You read a thing like that, you think those savages, they're out of their mind. But pull up, Josh, just an image of like a Covid mask. Remember this? Remember this? Have we all forgotten this? Remember this shit, guys, the phases of this. It was really interesting. You guys remember like when Covid hit or. We all forgotten that. You guys remember that, right? It was wild because we didn't know what the fuck it was. Everyone was scared except for like some people are like, it's bullshit, don't believe it. And those people, God help them if they spoke out against the masks. Even like virologists, even Anthony Fauci, I think at first was saying the mask isn't going to do shit. And even though people understand the size of virus versus the could easily flow in and out of a fucking mask, as you know, I'm not going to go on some fucking Texas tirade against maskers. You want to fucking mass mask in the same way that if you want to put salt in a circle around you, do it. I don't know, maybe it fucking works, but that. My point is nothing's really changed that much. The form has changed. The form has changed, but the thing itself, using weird shit to protect yourself from invisible forces has not really changed that much. It's a bit of a mind fuck, isn't it, when you think about that? Because you want to be rational. You don't want to imagine that you live in as strange and superstitious a world as the ancient Mesopotamians. Who would like go to the temple and find an a shipu and say, I think a sorcerer has cast a dark spell on me. And they'd come to your fucking house and bury a bowl under your door and be like, you're going to be okay. And then some other like fucked up shit would happen to you and you'd be like, I think you buried the wrong bull, man. My balls are still covered in festering boils. Oh yeah, yeah, sorry about that. We were confused about the sorcerer. You've got a ball boil sorcerer. It's a completely different. It's a boil bowl. Not. Not. I did have a pox bowl and it's like almost the same bowl but it's different. And they would come and bury a new fucking bowl. And not just that, I mean, pull up that child sacrifice Wikipedia. There it is. Yeah. I mean we all know back in the old days people used to do this for real. They would sacrifice fucking children. Look, there it is. The offering to Molech. Putting a fucking baby into this fucked up lion statue thing. People standing around. Yeah. Yes, Great. This is great. Blowing trumpets. That's your last moment here on earth. Bunch of assholes blowing trumpets right before you get fucking incinerated. Can you imagine that? That is real. People used to do that. That is real. Now go back one more time. That is real. That is real. Israel. What? It's Israel. Now let's see. Pre Columbian cultures. Archaeologists have found the remains of more than 140 children who were sacrificed in Peru's northern coastal region. 140. The Aztecs are well known for their ritualistic human sacrifices offering to God with the goal of restoring cosmological balance. While the demographic of people chose. Can you scroll up A little bit chosen to sacrifice remains unclear. It is hypothesized that this specific child sacrifice took place during the great drought and famine of 1454-1457, furthering the theory that Aztecs utilized human sacrifice to placate the gods. So you. You. You see a thing like that and you're like, well, oh, my God, we've risen from the darkness of the ancient past. Now we're sophisticated. We don't do that anymore. None of these sacrifices to Moloch. Pull up Kermit Gosnell that other tab. Look at this.

[Josh's Co-host or Friend]

Let me refresh it because it's. It's going down the bit rate.

[Josh]

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I think he's killed more people than any other serial killer, but I could be wrong about that. But this fucking Gosnell piece of shit, when they raided that place, it just smelled like rotting flesh. Did you heard of this guy? No, because it was just, you know, he just tossing the dead babies and like in fucking bins I guess. And not disposing of them. In a 2010 raid, authorities found the intact human remains of 47 fetuses and babies stored in bags in cartons. Scroll down a Little bit, Josh. 21 felony counts of illegal late term abortion and 211 counts of violating informed consent law. And so basically, I unfortunately did a deep dive on this shit, which I wish I didn't do. And he had some nurse who he was, like, training or grooming, and she was having reservations about killing babies. Like a great person. What a great person. I don't know if she should be killing babies. Kermit. Hey, Dr. Gosnell. I don't know. I've got a weird feeling about this baby killing. And then she said that she just sort of went numb to what was happening and just. Was just fucking killing babies. They were taking babies and putting them in, like, bowls that had been born and just letting them die. Just letting them die. This is fucking just happened, man. This is very recent. They tried to give him the death penalty. And also Karnamaya Mongar, an adult patient at the clinic. That's a wild name. Who died following an abortion procedure. So people were just going there and fucking dying. But he told this nurse who was having reservations, they're born poor, so they're already dead. He said that, like, those words came out of this man's mouth who was just getting these people fucking addicted on to pills, killing their fucking babies. He was like a warlock. That's what a warlock does. Like a warlock, you know. What is the difference between this guy and a warlock who moves into town, builds, like a fucking dark citadel with, like, crows sitting at the top and wolves howling around it? And it's the same thing. Nothing's changed. Here we have modern ritualistic child sacrifice to. Satiate the gods of capitalism. That's what that is. It's not a drought. It's an economic drought. It's not the crops aren't growing. It's that the people who are going there didn't have a lot of money. And so to pacify the gods who had cursed them by making them poor, well, I'll just kill your baby. It'll make things better. Let me give you these magical tablets. It'll make your feelings go away. What's the fucking difference? It's the same thing. Nothing has changed. It just is rebranded, that's all. Now, Josh, if you could. This is my theory on this stuff, you guys. By the way, if you go on GitHub, for you nerds out there, somebody just made a really awesome cymatics simulator so you could do cymatics, like, on your Computer, for those of you who don't know what cymatics are. It's where you dump powder onto speakers, basically, on the plates. And the vibration makes the powder form into certain geometry. So, yeah, pull up cymatics on YouTube, Josh. Check. I've always been fascinated by this. And don't do the audio on it. Yeah, the sound. Oh, my God. Yeah. No audio. So watch what happens. So when you run certain vibrations through powder, I don't know what the sludge he's pouring on there right now, but, you know, honestly, what this video is, is that's actually liquefied fetal tissue from Gosnell's play.

[Josh's Co-host or Friend]

Was it true? They had one about. If you whisper, like, bad stuff to water, it'll freeze in a bad way.

[Josh]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. There's another thing that you could do. It's a different. But, yeah, it's essentially like the way vibration just affects things. It forms these predictable patterns based on the pitch. So if, you know, 133Hz, you get whatever the fuck that is. Let it keep going for a second. Let's see here. 118, 20. You're gonna get that fucking thing. And on and on. It's really cool, some of the shapes these things make. You're gonna get that thing. 3240 Hz. You're gonna get that thing. Almost looks like crop circles. Makes you wonder about, like, is that what crop circles are? Put on some more fucking salt on that baby. Boom. You get that thing. It definitely reminds me of, like, different, like, megalithic sites and stuff that you've seen there, that they draw sort of looks like that. But if you. What all this shit has got me thinking about is, like, I don't know. Like. I don't know what the word for it is. I gotta come up with some kind of cool name for this. Someone's already come up with a much better name, no doubt. But, like, cultural cymatics that, like, when certain vibrations emanate through any culture, it's always gonna form the exact same pattern. But the salt in this case is whatever symbols or whatever mythologies or whatever the vernacular of the time is. Will form is what forms it. But it's the same fucking thing. Killing babies is killing babies. If we're using a different language for why we're killing the babies, or if we have different ideas about what it is, it's still child sacrifice. It's still the exact same fucking thing. It's just right now, the gods aren't, you know, like, Sumerian gods. Pazuzu or some shit. The gods now are the dao.

[Josh's Co-host or Friend]

Meta.

[Josh]

Meta the dao. It's mostly the dao, like whenever you hear on the news, when they, like, tell you, oh, the Dow Jones Industrial average has dropped 3%. That is the same thing as saying Lord Narvoth of the Seventh Vale has become slightly angry at us. It's the same fucking thing. And so then you end up realizing, oh, my God, I am living in ancient times and modern times at the same time. People in Mesopotamia, by the way, they weren't going around like, God, we're primitive pieces of shit. Fuck it out of our minds. They were like, this is some high tech shit. Did you hear they came up with a new bowl ritual? Like, it's way better. They made it more efficient. It came to them in a vision. The gods came and said, here, you gotta, like, shit in the bowl before you bury it. And I know that's crazy, but bullshitting. It definitely throws shit back at Exorcist. So this brings me to what I want to offer you guys. And by the way, I see someone in the chat right now talking about Lord narvath of the 7th Vale being a scary guy. First of all, Lord Narvoth is all genders combined. He is actually a vagina with penises radiating out from the sides. And it rolls through the seventh veil. That's how. That's how he moves around. And so, yeah, I guess scary to look at, but pretty fun to hang out with the. Now, I want to offer you guys something. Now, did we lose all our tabs, Josh? Okay, so this is something that we're going to do now. And you don't have to participate if you don't want to, but you have to ask yourself, you have to ask yourself what other things are real that we imagine are from the ancient times? And one of those is curses. Are curses real? Josh, you're gonna have to talk about this because I'm not a sports dude, unfortunately, but tell me about the Trump curse and the Knicks, whatever the fuck that is.

[Josh's Co-host or Friend]

He was the very first president to ever go to NBA Finals and they ended up losing. They won the other three out of the four games. And they said he put a bad vibe there and that that's why they lost. In fact, when they showed him during the national anthem, the whole stadium started to boo Trump. And people like you set it off. A weird atmosphere because everybody had to get patted down before they got it.

[Josh]

That was a Knicks game.

[Josh's Co-host or Friend]

That was a Knicks game.

[Josh]

Pull that up, by the way, for Those of you haven't seen this,

[Josh's Co-host or Friend]

go to Twitter.

[Josh]

It just seems like, it seems like

[Josh's Co-host or Friend]

our president and he fell asleep at the end of the game.

[Josh]

How do you fall asleep after an entire arena booze? You. I, I still wouldn't be able to fall asleep after that. How do you fall asleep? Fall asleep after that? This is the craziest ever. I mean, listen to this.

[Josh's Co-host or Friend]

Oh, that's the owner of the Knicks or Madison Square Garden. And then that's all bulletproof glass.

[Josh]

They, it seems like it's too low. Okay, that's good. God. Jesus. The Secret Service guy is like, how do I deal with this? How do I deal with this? I can protect him from bullets, but how can I protect him from a broken heart? And then he passes out. He's pissed.

[Josh's Co-host or Friend]

Yeah, that was him asleep.

[Josh]

Wow. He's really good at sit sleeping.

[Josh's Co-host or Friend]

It's an old guy thing. You can do it very easily. See?

[Josh]

Wow, he's very good at that, huh? He should talk about how good he is at that. That's hard to do. My head nods for it. Like that shows some weird, like neck powers now. So Trump cursed the Knicks. Is that the idea?

[Josh's Co-host or Friend]

Yeah. And that, yeah, he brought, he brought bad juju onto the Knicks and I hope he's at game five, six and seven.

[Josh]

You know, if I was him, I, I would do that just to fuck with him. Like after getting booed like that. Oh, I'm coming to every game now. Yeah, every fucking game, you pieces of shit. Until you cheer for me, I'm gonna keep coming until I get full cheers. He would do that. I could see him doing something like that. But. So here we have a modern day emergent story that has mythical proportions. The. The Dark King comes to the game. His bad vibe, his cymatic emanations create a vibration that produces failure for the Knicks. And. But aren't they always losing?

[Josh's Co-host or Friend]

No, they were on a 13 game playoff winning streak.

[Josh]

I thought the thing with the Knicks, but in historically is they lose all the time.

[Josh's Co-host or Friend]

They choke in the final or because last time they, they got beat by the Bulls. And yeah, so that's that. They choke.

[Josh]

And like if you become a Knicks fan, you're basically signing up for like the worst kind of pain is. I've just heard that from Knicks fans are like, don't do it. Like, don't get, don't get it.

[Josh's Co-host or Friend]

Yeah, it gets, it's, it's frustrating for them. The last time they were in the Finals was 1999 versus the spurs when their best player's father played for that team and he was number nine. Now his son's playing against the Spurs 27 years later and he's wearing the number 11.

[Josh]

Oh, shit. Sorry dude. Fucking fell asleep for a second. Well, anyway, curses, you know, you don't wanna. I understand. Like, I do think the placebo effect is incredibly powerful. In fact, they say it's the most powerful effect in medicine. Like you give somebody a sugar pill and their fucking sickness goes away somehow. Maybe it gets their immune system to work or who knows? There's accounts of people with stage four cancer going to their doctor and it's gone. I think they're figuring out what that is now. It's like your immune system identifies, it's bad. And they're like, oh God, we didn't realize. And then they get rid of it. But, but the point is you can induce that effect. But maybe there's something more than just the placebo effect just because you believe it works. Who knows? But when it comes to curses, there's something I want to share with you. Years and years ago, when I was hanging out with some Satanists, I was curious, I asked them like, well, how do you curse people? Because I thought that was what it was about. And they told me, they told me, I'm not going to share that here. But they did tell me, oh, here's what you would do. And they said, don't do it. This is coming from fucking Satanists. They're like, don't curse. It's really bad, really risky. Bad news all the way around the bet. If you really want to fuck somebody up, the only way, the best way, the most reliable way, and the least risky way to do that is to become happy and to have success. These are the things that will completely shake your enemies up more than any other fucking thing. Because anybody who's so low level and stupid and dumb that they are inordinately thinking about you in a negative way and actively trying to fuck up your life. They're the type of person who is obviously not working on their own lives. They're always on a downward trajectory. Anytime you meet anybody who's a vengeance person, notice their lives always going down. Always. Now, it might be a slow descent, it might be a fast descent, but vengeance minded people, it never works out for them. Before I go on with what I'm going to give you, I'm giving you guys a gift. I'm going to help you with something today. I want you to pull up that Cape Fear poster of Josh Little movie recommendation here. The new Cape Fear Series. I think it's on Apple tv is so fucking good. And I love Cape Fear. If you haven't seen the original movie, actually there's. The original one's black and white, I believe. But the one with De Niro is so insanely good. It's one of my favorite movies. And so anytime you hear about this remake of your favorite fucking movie, you're filled with dread. You're filled with this growing sense that they're just gonna ruin something. They're gonna mess something up. Something that didn't need to be duplicated. How the fuck is anybody gonna do the Max Cady that De Niro did in Cape Fear? Dude, what's the name of that actor, by the way? Just so we can give him the credit he deserves?

[Josh's Co-host or Friend]

Javier Bardem.

[Josh]

Javier Bardem. Oh my God. So good in what he did. Is instead of trying to like, I'm not gonna spoil it. I feel like I already spoiled it by showing you what he looks like. Because the, the beginning kind of like keeps you in suspense. It's like they knew that everyone who loves Cape Fear was gonna be completely worried about how are they gonna redo De Niro's Max Cady. Is he gonna. Because that the whole movie's hanging on this guy. Like he could really fuck it up. But what he did is he took. He. He. It's like a completely different Max Cady. And it's so good. It's just a different take on this. Essentially like the Count of Monte Cristo. It's a modern day version of that, but told from the. Anyway, I don't want to give too much away about it. It's just fucking good. So this is a vengeance obsessed person, basically. This is somebody who's out for revenge. And he is the very last person you would want hunting your ass down. He's also, maybe you could argue, a symbol of redemption and karma and justice. And it's just such a deep, good movie. But in general, when you're looking to get revenge on somebody, in general, when you're seeking to harm somebody, in general, you don't need to do that. Here's why. Number one, This episode is sponsored by Better Help. Summer is here, friends. And you know how summer was when you were a kid. You remember that went on forever. It went on forever. And it was generally carefree. You know, you didn't experience the kind of crazy stress that comes up if you happen to be a parent during the summer. Oh my God, kids are out of school. You want to give them a great summer. You're feeling this bizarre, like, combination of wanting school to start again and then also just wanting to spend lots of time with your kids. You're having to reckon with all the shit from your own childhood. Am I projecting this on my children? What's going on? 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If they're doing something weird to you, they're doing weird shit to everybody. We're social animals. Once you start shitting all over the system, you're fucked. You're already fucked. So this is why anytime I get pissed off about something, I always do refer to the Bible. Of course I do, children. Vengeance is mine, saith the Lord. And another thing I refer to is something Miyamoto Musashi, the great samurai said. Which one of my Friends has told me, which is if you live long enough, you will see the bodies of your enemies float down the river in front of you. Which is true, because if somebody's like fucking with you, they're fucking with other people. If somebody's doing fucked up things, they're hurting themselves, they're really fixated in the me you paradigm. They think they're them and you're a you. And they don't understand that by hurting people around you, you're hurting yourself. And this is like cancer. It's like, it's, it's a system, a part of a system that's hurting the system itself. And so what happens in the body, the immune system, once it catches on, it turns on the fucking thing, it attacks it, it destroys it on its own. You don't have to do anything, anything at all. And so if you get sucked in by a curse caster, then. And when I say curse casting, to go back to the original theme here, I'm not saying like, literally somebody's got a voodoo doll of you or a jar with your hair in it or any of that shit. I'm just saying, like somebody who seems to be consciously trying to disrupt your life in a negative way. And if you get sucked into that, ooh, watch out. You gotta watch out, because their curse is working. Now you're being pulled in an even more insidious way, which is you're like becoming them. They're changing you, they're puppeteering you, they're marionetting you. It's very deep, very dangerous. And so the reason these Satanists said not to curse. And I think in other magical traditions, though, you could argue Satanism isn't a magical tradition. The general idea is what you put out, you get back times, fill in the blank, depending on what stupid Instagram fucking feed witch that you're seeing is telling you. But it's true. What you put out, it magnifies back at you. It's an echo chamber. And so when you curse somebody, if we're looking at it from the purely superstitious metaphysical window, you're connecting with them. It's a connection, it's a direct link. You're linking to them. Now, whether you're actually linking with them, I don't know. But mentally, you're connecting with them. You're bringing them into your mind all the time. You're thinking negative thoughts about them. And so you have now established a link with a person via your focus on them. And so this is a two way street. This is the problem It's a two way street. Once you establish that connection of negativity, the moment the person you're cursing becomes aware of that, oh, shit, oh my God, I'm being cursed. Then now they can respond via that connection. That's the basic idea. Which brings us to what I'm going to offer all of you. If you want it. Do you feel like some kind of curse has been placed upon you? My children. You are my children. Has somebody out there done something to you? Somebody out there thinking about you in negative ways? Do you get a general ominous sense, a kind of tension pulling at your astral ass? Something's out there plucking the harp strings of your life, trying to play dissonant tones. Do you get that feeling? Well, today I'm gonna offer you a chance, can all do this together, to remove whatever your curses may be. And the reason you never want to curse anybody is because the general method of removing curses is to send that fucker back. That's all you got to do. It's a connection. It's essentially a rubber band. You just let it go, it's going to hit somebody right in the fucking face. It's all you have to do. Curse Removal 101. Now, obviously I'm no Mesopotamian trained exorcist. I'm a stoner who likes to read weird shit. But I think what we should all do now, and I can't play it, though I do want to, I guess. You could cut it out, right, Josh?

[Josh's Co-host or Friend]

I can cut it out, but they might stop the stream.

[Josh]

Let's roll the dice.

[Josh's Co-host or Friend]

Okay.

[Josh]

You know. So now I present to you. You don't mind cutting it out, Josh?

[Josh's Co-host or Friend]

No.

[Josh]

This is one of the great wizards of our time, William S. Burroughs. Wait. Stop it. Go back to the beginning. This is William S. Burroughs doing a curse banishing ritual. All you have to do, if we all listen to this and focus on it together, we will form a kind of transient coven and we will eliminate in this very moment, all curses. And then after, you know what, after he reads it, I'll read it. Just to make sure we seal the deal. Go ahead and play it, Josh.

[Unknown Guest]

Lock them out and block the door. Bar them out for forever more. Knock them out. Lock is mine and door is mine 3 times 3 to make up 9. Change the lock and change the door Smear them out forevermore. Curse, go back. Curse, go back Back with double pain and lack Curse, go back. Curse, go back Back with double spear and black Silver arrow through the night Silver arrow, take thy flight Silver Arrow, seek and find. Cursing heart and cursing mind.

[Josh]

Wow, that's so cool. Curse, go back. All right, and now read it. Pull up. Is there a way to pull up the text there? So if you want to read it with me, read it with me. Can they see that?

[Josh's Co-host or Friend]

Yeah, they'll be able to see it.

[Josh]

Okay, let's read it. I won't be able to do near as good a job as William Burroughs, obviously. Lock them out and block the door. Bar them out forevermore lock them out. Lock is mine and door is mine. 3 times 3 to make up 9. Change the lock and change the door. Smear them out forevermore. Curse, go back. Curse, go back. Back with double pain and lack. Curse, go back. Curse, go back. Back with double fear and black. Silver arrow through the night. Silver arrow, take thy flight. Silver arrow, seek and find. Cursing heart and cursing mind. Don't you feel better, Josh? I couldn't help but notice you didn't read it.

[Josh's Co-host or Friend]

Well, it was a little. It was a.

[Josh]

What? Are you suddenly feeling sick?

[Josh's Co-host or Friend]

No. No.

[Josh]

What's going on? Suddenly getting a weird feeling in my

[Josh's Co-host or Friend]

tummy a little bit. Yeah, man.

[Josh]

Yeah. Doesn't feel good, does it? No, no, it doesn't feel good. The flow has been reversed, you know? Is. Is that real? I don't know. It felt good to read it.

[Josh's Co-host or Friend]

My grandmother used to do a thing to get rid of curses. I thought it was part of Catholicism. It's not. She. It's called the wavel. It's just egg. Right. And she would say the rosary, rub the egg over the part that's hurting. So if I have a fever, then get a bowl of water, crack the egg in the water, put it under the bed, and then I would lay there like this, and then she'd come back. And if the egg was white, that means somebody put oho on me or curse.

[Unknown Guest]

Whoa.

[Josh's Co-host or Friend]

The evil eye, they put that on me. And if it didn't have anything, then nobody did that. I'm just sick.

[Josh]

Did you ever get a white egg?

[Josh's Co-host or Friend]

Yes, but I found out later it just depends on how hot the water is. So it's basically cooking the egg. So if you put hot water, it's going to be white. If you put cold water, nothing's going to happen.

[Josh]

I thought it was part of Catholicism,

[Josh's Co-host or Friend]

and everybody's like, no, that's not Catholicism.

[Josh]

Is your. Is your grandmother still alive?

[Josh's Co-host or Friend]

No, she passed away.

[Josh]

God, that sucks, because you need to ask her, like, are you keeping a consistent water temperature?

[Josh's Co-host or Friend]

They weren't. They weren't. It was just whatever. Whenever they turned it on. If they had just washed dishes in the sink, then it's.

[Josh]

You got to curse. You got a fucking curse.

[Josh's Co-host or Friend]

Yeah, exactly. Exactly.

[Josh]

Oh, man. Jesus Christ. Why'd your grandmother do that to you, man?

[Josh's Co-host or Friend]

In the valley, a lot of Catholic, they took, like, a lot of, like, witchcraft, and it kind of went into. Yeah, they just, like, adopted it and said, oh, this is Catholicism. And it's not.

[Josh]

I mean, even before Catholicism took in, which, I mean, any. Any organized religion is magic. Inarguably, like, there's no way around that. It's just, you know. Yeah, I know. It. It sucked in Catholicism. Sucked in a lot of stuff. I mean, that's. Isn't that what Santeria is?

[Josh's Co-host or Friend]

Essentially, it's the reverse of it, but that's where they got saints because there was demigods and the Orthodox in Russia, they don't have any saints here. You lose something, you pray to a certain saint to find it.

[Josh]

St. Anthony. Yeah, St. Anthony. St. Anthony, please. Look around. What is it? How does it go?

[Josh's Co-host or Friend]

I Just go, St. Anthony. Where the is it?

[Josh]

Don't talk like that, by the way. That's the worst saint to be the

[Josh's Co-host or Friend]

saint of lost stuff. Just people asking you.

[Josh]

It's called being married. Yeah. You know what I mean? Anyone who's buried, you become St. Anthony because you have to help them find their fucking phones, and they have to help you find your shit. It's the worst. Poor St. Anthony. Somebody needs to pray to him for him. My God, that poor saint, constantly, all day long helping people find their wallets.

[Josh's Co-host or Friend]

What do we take to work?

[Josh]

Where are my keys? Well, I hope that this helped you, my friends. I know that these are trying times, and if you ask me, sometimes it's good to at least temporarily take off the tinfoil hat of modernism. Take it off. Let yourself drift back to the ancient times. Don't be afraid. Is it real, any of this bullshit? I don't know. Is any of the modern stuff real? I don't know. Are we in a simulation? I don't know. Is this a dream? Yes, it is. And the moment you start lucid dreaming is where you can start having fun. So if you ask me, sometimes you can get a little imbalanced into modernity, and that's not going to save you. Just because it's not supposed to be real doesn't mean it doesn't work. Just because you don't believe in it doesn't mean you're not susceptible. That's not enough. You know, you can not believe that you have an Infection on your arm because your stupid fucking cat swiped you a good one. But that's not going to save you from watching your arm rot off. It doesn't matter. It's just cymatics, friends. You can use language as a handle to attach to all of these ideas that can be kind of rough to get a hold of. If you need to use the language of modernity, then use it. If it helps you to consider yourself to be neurodivergent, that's fine. You're neurodivergent. Sometimes though, you gotta ask, do I have a demon? Do you have a demon? No. But will that compel you maybe to put a little more effort into healing yourself? Maybe. Maybe. On the other hand, sometimes thinking you have a demon is like a real. That's a red flag. I'll be honest, if that's a red flag.

[Josh's Co-host or Friend]

I think we live in a red utopia. That's what I think we live in.

[Josh]

Oh, yeah, right. Utopia. We're gonna talk about a different thing all together. Let's save that for another podcast. You know, and also, that's kind of like a. That was great, Josh. Thanks for putting a button on that for me. I really appreciate that. For tying it all together to something that isn't connected. The rat utopia thing. You guys have heard of that? You put a bunch of rats in a place where they have everything they need, and the next thing you know, they get all fat and fucked up and they just stop reproducing and just essentially lose all. It seems like they actually become better rats. I mean, do you want your rats reproducing? I don't. That's good, right?

[Josh's Co-host or Friend]

Well, they said, like, there are specific rats that only cleaned themselves and made themselves look super nice. And that's kind of like what's happening now with that guy, like clavicular. Clavicular, whatever his name is.

[Josh]

Clavicular.

[Josh's Co-host or Friend]

There you go. Him and like all the, the looks maxing. And that's where we're towards the end of the, of the. Of the rat utopia. I mean, we're not rats, but you

[Josh]

know, you know, I'll tell you my take on clavicular. Pull up a picture of clavicular. I thought of this the other day and it made me.

[Josh's Co-host or Friend]

You just got a nose job.

[Josh]

Oh, congratulations, Clavicular.

[Josh's Co-host or Friend]

Good job.

[Josh]

There he is. Beautiful, beautiful man. There he is now. Now, you know, obviously this is like well chewed and well trod territory when it comes to streaming and yapping about shit, but I think I have a hot take on it that I Haven't heard yet. And it's kind of sad because why do all of this? Like, why use a hammer to, like, reshape your face? Why fuck up your body, like. Or why. Why pay tons of money to have your body changed? Why, Josh? Why do you think?

[Josh's Co-host or Friend]

Because people don't. We don't have the. What's it called? Purpose anymore. We don't feel like, well, what's this all for? So now it just becomes how I can look my best. That's the only thing I can do. That's the only thing I think I can control.

[Josh]

That's good. But go deeper.

[Josh's Co-host or Friend]

They're gay.

[Josh]

You're getting there. But go even deeper.

[Josh's Co-host or Friend]

They're really gay.

[Josh]

Go even deeper. Go deeper, Josh. Come on. I could take it. Go deeper, deeper. Albert is saying the ego. No, it's even. I know. This is what it is. It's so sad. They want to be touched. They want to be touched. Clavicular wants to be held. He wants to be loved. He wants to be touched. He wants somebody to hold him and love him and touch him. And he thinks the only way he can make that happen is by sledgehammering his fucking cheekbones. Do you how sad that is? All these people who are warping their bodies, you have to ask yourself, if they were living alone, like, if they washed up on a desert island or something, are they going to be fucking trying to fix their face, regrow their hair, adjust their nose? No, there's nobody around. The bananas are still going to fall out of the fucking banana tree for them, regardless of how symmetrical their face is. People like clavicular representation, loneliness. They represent people who are like. They need someone to love them unconditionally and hold them and say, I love you. Clavicular. You're wonderful. You're beautiful. And so they're shattering their fucking bones to just feel someone's touch. That's all it is. Like, you look at the, you know, slop videos that come out about this dude who weirdly was thrust upon us, like, suspiciously so. Like, he. He became, you know, whatever the invisible empire like, throws to the. To the fucking peasantry to yap about, you know, every. Every few. Every month, we get a new topic of discussion.

[Josh's Co-host or Friend]

Well, they had to replace that bald guy from. Or is it Romania? What was his name?

[Josh]

What? Oh, Andrew Tate.

[Josh's Co-host or Friend]

Andrew Tate. He replaced Andrew Tate, right?

[Josh]

Yeah, he was. The next in line is sort of like a testament, I don't know. Toxic masculinity, narcissism, streaming culture, I guess. I don't know. But the truth is, that guy just is desperately wanting someone to love him all. All the way. That's what he wants. It's all it is. It's so sad. And it's so. It's really sad because, like, all these people, anybody who's like, just a malformed or culturally dissonant, if you just shrink them down to, like, babies, they're the cutest, sweetest things of all time. No one's ever looked at a baby and been like, I give this baby a fucking nose job. Gotta get this baby's chin fixed. You just love the baby. They're so powerful. They're such powerful creatures. And it's so sad. Clavicular just needs a mommy. Clavicular needs just somebody to. Whether it's a dude mommy or whatever, a daddy. Guess what they call guy moms.

[Josh's Co-host or Friend]

You know what's scary? He's probably gonna be a politician one day. You know why? Because this was. I mean, think what pumping iron with Arnold Schwarzenegger was when people first saw it. It's like, why is this guy so into his own body?

[Josh]

You know? I don't know about that, Josh.

[Josh's Co-host or Friend]

And then he became governor.

[Josh]

I don't know. I'm worried about sweet clavic. Like, I. You know, I just see these videos of him passing out and at bars, like, you know, he's like all up.

[Josh's Co-host or Friend]

Oh, he was on. It was. Somebody gave him a pill.

[Josh]

Somebody gave him a pill?

[Josh's Co-host or Friend]

Yeah. And they carried him out.

[Josh]

You know, I just got to say this. Every single pill that I've ever enjoyed, somebody gave it to me. Yeah. I mean, it's not an excuse he took, you know, I don't know what he's on. The point is, like, there's nothing. He's going to inevitably find that no matter how beautiful and symmetrical he becomes, he's still going to feel like shit until he deals with the fact that he needs somebody to, like. He's longing. He's longing for something that you're not going to get from symmetry. It doesn't matter. In fact, he's going to get himself in a horrible predicament. Worst case scenario for clavicular is people start banging him because he looks pretty and, you know. Right.

[Josh's Co-host or Friend]

I think he got head on a stream once.

[Josh]

Which stream?

[Josh's Co-host or Friend]

His stream. I forgot what he did it on, but the girl was on it and

[Josh]

he was like, oh, yeah, lonely. That's pure deep loneliness. Anytime I've gotten. How many times have I gotten a blowjob on this stream?

[Josh's Co-host or Friend]

4.

[Josh]

Yes. And do I do any kind of performative anything? No, nothing. No one knows I could be getting one right now. I 100% don't show it when I'm getting blown on the stream. But this is why I like having this table, you know. And I think the people who blow me appreciate that, you know, and that will be once we get the YouTube member stuff figured out. That is going to be like a high, very. A high Tier on the YouTube. Like if you, if you subscribe to a high enough tier, you, you, I will fly you, I will fly you to Austin and you can blow me under the table, which is I think makes sense. That'll be like that, I don't know, twelve dollar tier.

[Josh's Co-host or Friend]

But you do feel more empty inside after you get blown.

[Josh]

You literally are emptier.

[Josh's Co-host or Friend]

Yeah,

[Josh]

yeah, yeah, it's true. Yeah, it just doesn't work. 69ing though, works. I feel less empty when I 69.

[Josh's Co-host or Friend]

Yeah, but that's like the yin and the yang.

[Josh]

That's why you're feeding each other. It's a snake eating its own dick. Dick and balls and pussy.

[Josh's Co-host or Friend]

Yep. Super chats.

[Josh]

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[Josh's Co-host or Friend]

It is. It's this. This top one.

[Josh]

His karma will offer him the opportunity to live all the lives of each soul that suffered impacted by his actions. I don't know what you're talking about. You're talking about Trump. Anybody? All of us. I hope you're not talking about me, but that's. It would be true. I mean, it's true for whoever you're talking about. I do think it is. I did think this the other day. I do. I really love Austin, man. People out here are fucking cool. And I was just going to buy nicotine pouches and me and the dude at the convenience store got in this great conversation about Hitler and you know how Hitler fucked so many things up. My birthday, embarrassingly enough, is on Hitler's birthday. It's 4:20. It's an embarrassing birthday. I've always been embarrassed by that. I'm embarrassed by it because, like, surely I'm not that much of a stoner. Like, if this stuff they say is true, that you choose what day you're born and all that, does that mean that like in whatever place we are before you come here, I was like, 4:20, dude. And I don't want to think of the other thing I could be. I want to be born on Hitler's birthday, man. Let's hope. It's got to be weed. I was like 420, man. That is like the way I could signal to my young self to start smoking weed as soon as you can. But when you think about it, like, Hitler ruined 420. Hitler ruined the Hitler mustache.

[Josh's Co-host or Friend]

Yeah. Not even Jordan can bring it back.

[Josh]

No one can bring it back. It's done. Yeah, that, and maybe that's good. I mean, I think the Hitler mustache ruined the Hitler mustache. It seems like it's just like, what is that? Commit to the fucking mustache, dude. Like, why are you just. It's like the equivalent of the. When you're shaving your pubes. It's like that strip thing that people do, the Mohawk or whatever. I don't know if there's a name

[Josh's Co-host or Friend]

for that, but the landing strip.

[Josh]

Landing strip. There you go. He ruined. What else did he fucking ruin? He ruined the swastika. Fucking ruin the swastika. Perfectly cool symbol before he came around and shit on it and Hitlered it up. It's all over India still. He didn't take it from them. But I remember going to India and it took a Second to get used to seeing fucking swastikas everywhere. It really did. Hitler ruined. What else he ruined, Josh?

[Josh's Co-host or Friend]

Thunderbolts. Those little.

[Josh]

Oh, yeah, yeah, he ruined thunderbolts. He ruined thunderbolts. He ruined. Go back to the chat maybe. What else did Hitler ruin, you guys pretty.

[Josh's Co-host or Friend]

He fucked up Germany pretty bad.

[Josh]

Yeah, he fucked up Germany. What else?

[Josh's Co-host or Friend]

What about. Name the good things that he did,

[Josh]

you piece of shit.

[Josh's Co-host or Friend]

Fanta. Without the Nazis, there would not be orange. Great Fanta.

[Josh]

What? What?

[Josh's Co-host or Friend]

Yeah, because Coca Cola stopped giving them whatever. And so they're like, well, we're going to make our own flavored drinks. And so they created Fanta.

[Josh]

Dude, please pull that up. Yeah, tell me that's not true. Tell me that. That Hitler didn't create f. Well, not

[Josh's Co-host or Friend]

Hitler, but the n.

[Josh]

The dude at this convenience store said that it's like the whole methamphetamine problem is because. Because they were the Nazis.

[Josh's Co-host or Friend]

Yeah, that's why they had blitzkrieg. Is they could go for days.

[Josh]

So he, like, you know, he ruined. Before Hitler, meth was like a sophisticated drug the professors smoked. Fanta was created in 1940 in Nazi Germany by the. Oh, my God. Holy shit. The name Fanta was derived from the German word for imagination, fantasy, suggested by salesman Joe Kip. Wow. So he didn't ruin, like, fan. I guess that's a testament to how good Fanta is. Hitler couldn't ruin Fanta. They should use that. Anyone from Fanta, you're welcome to use that for your next campaign. Just like, here's the commercial. Cut to the Hitler mustache. Cut to, I don't know, meth. A picture of, like, that Nazi meth

[Josh's Co-host or Friend]

they were taking 3412 AE says they created IBM.

[Josh]

Oh, there you go. Didn't ruin IBM. What else?

[Josh's Co-host or Friend]

Volkswagen.

[Josh]

Not a bad car. Hugo Boss, not a bad brand. Why are we doing things? They did that.

[Josh's Co-host or Friend]

He really did that.

[Josh]

It just suddenly just turns into, like, a fucking neo Nazi podcast. It is not a good path, Kinsey. Not a good path. What the fuck, Josh? You know, But I want to finish. My point is, like, it's like. And it does weirdly tie into, like, vengeance people or people who are, like, fucking up their communities. We all know, like, every friendship group, every community has within it some shit disturbing asshole who is creating drama always. And sometimes you're that person, sometimes I'm that person. Hopefully, in a group that is changing, everyone goes through shit. But we know, for example, how hardcore opioid addiction will just destroy entire communities. Like, will destroy families, will rip families Apart destroy the communities around the family. We know that. So that's a kind of density that you can have as a person. You can really fuck shit up if you're an asshole. But usually the way you fuck shit up is relatively low level. But in the world, you can be enough of a fucking asshole. You could be enough of a piece of shit that you ruin the knicks, that you ruin mustaches, that. You know what I mean? You can be such an ass, it's the opposite of enlightenment. Like in the world. You can be such a beautiful, good open conduit of light that you create these ripples that invite people to stop being selfish pieces of shit. And it goes on and on and on forever and ever and ever. You could be that good, but you, where there's one thing, its opposite is there too. You could be such a piece of fucking shit that long after you're dead. People are standing in front of the mirror, shaven, and they look at that little square underneath their nose and they're like, damn, that looks good. That looks really good on me. Like, fuck, I can't do it because of Hitler. I gotta shave that. Everybody's gonna think I'm a Nazi. It is odd though, right? Neo Nazis don't do Hitler mustaches.

[Josh's Co-host or Friend]

No.

[Josh]

Why?

[Josh's Co-host or Friend]

They shave their head.

[Josh]

I know, but you would think that if you were really into Hitler, you would do his mustache.

[Josh's Co-host or Friend]

It's kind of hacked.

[Josh]

Fair enough.

[Josh's Co-host or Friend]

Yeah. One lady ruined. I mean, think about all the parents that didn't name their kid Karen after one Karen was a big enough asshole.

[Josh]

Oh my God. Do we know who the original Karen was?

[Josh's Co-host or Friend]

No, I don't know. Let me.

[Josh]

Oh my God, you're right. Whoever that was was such a piece of shit that she ruined her. Her own name.

[Josh's Co-host or Friend]

Yeah.

[Josh]

No, there is no single original. There has to be though.

[Josh's Co-host or Friend]

There's a Karen Harris.

[Josh]

Oh, wait, it's Dane Cook. Comedian Dane Cook used the name in a popular. Is describing Karen as the one friend in every group that nobody likes because she's always a douchebag. Danko Dankook people. Dankook originated the Karen. That's fascinating. That's like the Rock apparently is behind the Italian brain rot stuff.

[Josh's Co-host or Friend]

What's the Italian brain rot stuff?

[Josh]

You guys know what that is, right? Italian brain rot. You like, your kids are too old for this. It's like look up Italian brain rot. It's just these like terms. I think six, seven counts as Italian brain rot, but I could be wrong. The Italian brain rot universe is full of absurd made up characters with Bizarre backstories. The names in audio are heavily stylized. It's. They just say the. I don't know what it means. Like, that's part of being, like, older. Like, only kids understand this fully, but they say things like, tralilero, trala la. Show them all. Ballerina, cappuccino, tongue, Tongue, Tung, Sahur, Bombardio, crocodile, Chimpanzini, Benignini. I think the rock was like, doesn't speak Italian. I saw him talking about this and he said some of these words and then it just. I don't know. I don't know. Get out of it. It's bad. This is like opening the Necronomicon. You shouldn't even look at it. Like, it's not for us. It's the forbidden zone for adults. Don't go there. We shouldn't toy with it. Let's keep doing the super chats. Thanks for the super chat.

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[Josh]

Hi, John. Thanks for the super chat. Thought prayer meditation is quantum techn. Cymatics is an artifact within the macro. Wow. See, I knew someone smarter than me would chime in. Cymatics is an artifact within the macroscopic realm that illustrates the function of consciousness upon our perspective of reality. You know, John, it's so weird. Let me just show you something. What happened to my notebook, Josh? Oh, there it is. I don't even. I could open this. This is my journal. It's where I keep all my ideas, write stuff down, and weirdly, I wrote exactly that. Like Two hours ago. Exactly like that. I was like, I should say that on the podcast. And then I'm like, you know what, I'll just try to simplify it a little bit. But that's brilliant. Yeah. The function of consciousness upon our perspective of reality. Yeah.

[Josh's Co-host or Friend]

Have you heard of language affecting our reality? Like, they asked Spanish speaking people to. They saw the same thing as English speaking people. English people saw the outcome and Spanish people saw the reason it happened.

[Josh]

Wow, cool.

[Josh's Co-host or Friend]

And so we, through our language, forget the reason of why stuff happens. You just remember what happened.

[Josh]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Because like, our language is like a market language.

[Josh's Co-host or Friend]

Yeah. So does that mean we're easily. Much more easily manipulated?

[Josh]

Yeah, probably. Yeah. I mean, isn't that the idea? Like, you know, it's all fucking P.T. barnum over here in the West. Gladiator. What happened to going to Philly? I went to Philly. I was at Helium in Philly. I love that club. I was there. Gladiator. 2222. Another sign that I need to get a little better at marketing. If you could name a fan's baby, what would it be? Oh, alpaca. I'm so honored that you would ask me that. And I'm not going to answer that because this is, you know, I'll tell you, naming a child is so fun. And it can be, you know, interesting because, you know, two people have to agree on the name depending on, like, where you're at. I think in some cultures, like, the dude names the baby. I think in others, the mom names the baby. I don't know how that works, but, you know, it's so fascinating to name something that you haven't even met yet. And it's really wild how, like it just comes. It's like, it's a little bit like the koan. In Zen Buddhism, they get your ass meditating, they ask you an impossible question to answer. You meditate and meditate and meditate and you just go kind of nuts. And I think every few days you meet with like the temple priest. I don't know what their title is. The Roshi. The Roshi. And the Roshi like asks you this kohan, and you will respond, but it's wrong. But then you go so insane that spontaneously the answer will pop out of your mouth. And there's books of these koans with the answer. It's always the same answer somehow that's naming a child. It will just come. But I'm not gonna. I can't get involved there, friend.

[Josh's Co-host or Friend]

I think moms name the baby and dads give them the nicknames.

[Josh]

Yeah. Yeah, that makes sense.

[Josh's Co-host or Friend]

Yeah. Cause my. My wife named our kids Isaiah, Zoe, and Xavier, and I call them Issa, Zozo and Zae Zay.

[Josh]

That's cool. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Josh's Co-host or Friend]

Sounds weird at the heb, though.

[Josh]

Issa, Zozo, Zae Zae.

[Josh's Co-host or Friend]

And people are like, what the fuck?

[Josh]

It sounds like you're counting. It sounds like counting in another language. It sounds like kung. It's like you're like some kind of kung fu master is telling you, like, katas to get into or something. Yeah. Issac Zozo says, hey, that's cool. Ocubage says, have fun at Costco. Later. Fuck that. Fuck that occupation. Oh, my God. That is truly a weight that my wonderful wife carries for us. She does the cost. She makes fun of me when I go to Costco with her, because I just don't. It's like, if you haven't been to Costco regularly, there's rules, there's things that don't make sense. There's a Costco culture. There's things you can do wrong. You get lost. You buy an air fryer, you buy a knife set. You're gonna buy some kind of sharpening stone. You're gonna buy a TV long before you start doing grocery shopping. And, like, you just. It's crazy. You'll walk out of Costco, you went in there to buy, like, a week's worth of groceries. You'll walk out with, like, a full prepper set, fishing lures. You're not gonna go fishing. A golf club, three blenders, some kind of coffee filters, a video game set. It gets you. Hooded sweatshirt. Dug it. What did Alex Jones smell like, asking for a friend? No discernible odor. Did you smell anything? I didn't smell anything. Josh. No discernible odor? Nothing. Sorry. Wish I could give you something a little more juicy, but. Nothing. No cologne, nothing.

[Josh's Co-host or Friend]

And we got a good sniff.

[Josh]

Yeah. Yeah. I mean, we. You know, he's kind enough to let us. We're like, please, I know this is weird, but we would love to just, like, breathe in your essence. He's like, no problem. Go ahead. It's fine. You two go on in here. Just embrace this. Felt like. Honestly, I felt like a child in this army. You cried?

[Josh's Co-host or Friend]

Yeah.

[Josh]

Chris Farad, what's the difference between ego, death, and just being ignored in a party? That's a great question. Is that a koan feels like a koan? You know, I'd say here's the difference to be ignored at A party. You have to have a you that's being ignored. You have to be aware of, like, a you. There's a you that could be ignored. You're fixating on this little imaginary friend you call yourself. Your little doll isn't getting the attention it wants. You're worried about your doll. Do people like my doll? Is my doll an asshole? Is my doll going to be lonely for the rest of their life? Oh, my God. Does this person think my doll is weird? My doll must smell weird. Does my doll stink? No one will ever love my doll. That's being. That's your ego. It's just this very, like, sophisticated imaginary friend you're carrying around with you. And that doesn't help, by the way. Knowing that doesn't help. But when your ego gets stung, it fucking hurts. It's horrible. I hate it. It's horrible. You just. It's embarrassing. It's implicitly embarrassing. Like, it has to be embarrassing. And so you're just. You get really defensive and protective of this thing that is not real in the sense. I mean, it's real in the way that your thoughts are real. But it's pretty ephemeral. It's not like your body. It's like a set of expectations and notions about who you are and, you know, the respect you deserve. What will people think about me? And it's always, at least my ego is so fucking, like, absolutely ridiculous in its prognostications of what will happen if this happens. Then that will happen. It's always wrong. Everyone's ego is a lot, like, clavicular, you know? So getting ignored at a party for a lot of us is like the greatest thing that could happen to us. For us recluses, it's like, fuck, yeah, I'm getting ignored. This is amazing. If you have social anxiety, getting ignored at a party can be nice, except your social anxiety is going to make you think you offended somebody. But, yeah, I'd say that's the difference.

[Josh's Co-host or Friend]

Have you ever done the Japanese ego test?

[Josh]

What is it?

[Josh's Co-host or Friend]

I'll pull it up.

[Josh]

There's a Japanese ego test.

[Josh's Co-host or Friend]

Yes. That's not what it's called, but that's what I remember it as.

[Josh]

I could outweigh. That would be amazing to have, like a. The way you can test, like your cube test. That's what it's called, cube test. Okay. Okay, close your eyes. Okay. Wait. Will you read it to me and we'll do the cube test right out.

[Josh's Co-host or Friend]

Okay. Just real quick. I'm not very good at reading, but we're Gonna try. Close your eyes and try to clear your mind. Then picture yourself in a desert. Fast, empty. Just desert. Now picture a cube in your desert. How big is your cube? Do you see the cube embedded in the desert sand on the surface, floating or moving around? Is the cube hollow inside or is it solid? Just remember that there is no final score in this test.

[Josh]

Okay, stops. I. First of all, I don't like that they're telling me what the fucking. There's so many ways a cube could be so you know already. It's just like, who the fuck do you think you are telling me about my cube? I'll decide my own cube, you piece of shit. This is ridiculous. I could have done a much better cube test. Cube, ego test.

[Josh's Co-host or Friend]

Okay, building on your image, your desert, your cube, a ladder appears again. Describe it. Where is the ladder in respect to the cube? Above, below, against in the cube? Is the ladder old, new, long, short? What is the ladder made out of? As you look at the ladder, a horse now appears.

[Josh]

What the.

[Josh's Co-host or Friend]

Please describe for me what you see.

[Josh]

How about. I don't.

[Josh's Co-host or Friend]

Is in respect to the cube? Tell me where you see.

[Josh]

I don't respect that cube.

[Josh's Co-host or Friend]

Close or far? Is the horse standing still or moving around? If he's moving, which way is he moving?

[Josh]

Okay, what does the horse. How long is this thing?

[Josh's Co-host or Friend]

It's. A few more questions.

[Josh]

What is it? Oh, it's a lot. The. Is this. Josh, it's super long.

[Josh's Co-host or Friend]

Okay, so the cube. Just tell me the cube part. This is the ego part. How big was your cube and where was it?

[Josh]

The cube was like, actually not very big, but it was like, made of biceps.

[Josh's Co-host or Friend]

Okay, Was it high up in the air? Was it down north, near the ground,

[Josh]

or was was like near the ground?

[Josh's Co-host or Friend]

Then you're grounded and you have a small ego.

[Josh]

What about the biceps?

[Josh's Co-host or Friend]

That doesn't tell me anything about that. Yeah, or maybe it does later on, but yeah, it's pretty long. I did this test. My wife did it for me. She was laughing because she goes, think of a cube. And I said, it's in. Think of Independence Day when the spaceship is coming through and covers the whole sky. That's what I told her. And she was like, that's your ego. And I was like, that crushed me.

[Josh]

Josh, you do not have a inflated ego, dude. You don't. Oh. Oh, my God.

[Josh's Co-host or Friend]

I have an inflated eagle about having an inflated ego.

[Josh]

Yeah, well, that's where it gets that. That exactly is it. That's the recursion. This is the problem is like, it's a. It's a house of mirrors. It's one of those infinity mirrors. Anytime you become self reflective or fixated on even the idea of the ego, then it just produces like. Well, you don't want an ego. You want ego death or whatever the fuck that even is. But the reason you want the ego death is because you want to be a better person, which is your ego. So it's your ego just bouncing off of itself, creating feedback. It's a fucking feedback loop. It's when you put the microphone too close to the speakers. It's like you don't even have to worry about your fucking ego, man. It's like you can't kill it because it's not real. It's like. You know what I mean? It's like. It's like killing a Smurf. They're not real.

[Josh's Co-host or Friend]

Well, isn't your ego your.

[Josh]

Your.

[Josh's Co-host or Friend]

Your shadow size?

[Josh]

They're not real. But let me just say this, because I'm gonna catch it for that. I don't think Smurfs are real, and I will die on that.

[Josh's Co-host or Friend]

Help.

[Josh]

So all you go ahead and come at me. Smurf believers. Fuck. I get attacked by these people every day. They're not real. They're not. Show me one. Show me a living Smurf. They'd be in zoos or they'd be in food or whatever if Gargamel was right. Just show me. The point is that I don't think they're real. Go ahead and attack me all you want online. Go ahead. But I will smack you down every single fucking time. Because no matter what, those pictures I've seen of Smurfs, they're all blurry. They're shitty. They don't. There could be easily be something else. So they're not real. So fuck off. You know, I don't like going there on this podcast. It is a podcast of love, peace, and joy. But go fuck yourself. If you're one of the Smurf believers. That such a gross subculture. They're not real. They're not real. Show me one. I just want to see one Smurf. I'll apologize. Just one Smurf. One Smurf autopsy. Even like a. Or the Smurfs. The Smurfs were not based on a specific singular real life event or person. Josh, why did you look that up?

[Josh's Co-host or Friend]

Because I saw an Instagram reel a long time ago that said that it was a specific type of person that they were portraying. So I was trying to see what that was.

[Josh]

You're just almost about to become a Smurf. That's how it starts. That's like the way in. And the next thing you know, you start believing in them. Thanks for the donation, Mab. Let's go back to the chat real quick, Josh.

[Josh's Co-host or Friend]

And John, I'll make sure to buy those flower seeds. Thank you.

[Josh]

Wait, what? I missed that?

[Josh's Co-host or Friend]

Yeah.

[Josh]

John, this one's for Josh. Please spend this $5 wisely at Trader Joe's on a lovely package, a fair traded organic free range non GMO sunflower seeds.

[Josh's Co-host or Friend]

Thank you.

[Josh]

Yeah, Josh, you better fucking do. I want to see those seeds the next time I come in here. You guys, this has been a joy. I love streaming with you. And I love you. You know, I had a guest scheduled, by the way. I do want to get back to interviewing people, though. I've been really enjoying these, but I also like interviewing people. It's just. I've had the last couple of guests just like. Just hasn't worked out. I better get out of here. Head over to the Mystery Boys preview room, guys. Start a conversation there. This one's a good one. In fact, it could really change the world. Not gonna spoil it, but it does make me. I don't know. Does some of the stuff that we uncovered in this Mystery Boys is. I don't know. I don't know what's gonna happen to us. Have a wonderful day, a wonderful week, and God bless you all. That's so stupid. How do you close out a live stream? Oh, I know. No more curses we sent all. I hope today we sent hundreds of curses, maybe thousands of curses back to the warlocks and witches and dark darklings out there who would dare curse me or any of my wonderful listeners watchers. I think we did it. I felt something come out of me. Felt like a string broke. God help whoever threw that string. Whoever harpooned me with their dark magic. Actually, God help you. I hope it doesn't go back on you. Really. I don't want to fuck anybody up. Maybe a little. Bye. See you later.

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