In this powerful and reflective conversation, therapist and host, Malisa Hepner, sits down with Katharine Chestnut to explore her journey from early spiritual curiosity to navigating the deep wounds of narcissistic abuse. Katharine shares how mindfulness and intuitive awareness became anchors in her healing, helping her reconnect with her true self after losing her sense of identity in unhealthy relationships. Together, they unpack what it really looks like to rebuild self-trust, set boundaries without guilt, and listen to your inner voice in a world that often teaches you to abandon it. This episode offers grounded, practical tools for anyone seeking clarity, healing, and a more authentic way of living.

Take a few moments today to pause and check in with yourself before making a decision or responding to someone. Ask: "Is this coming from fear or from truth?" Begin practicing small moments of self-trust by honoring your internal response—even if it feels unfamiliar. Over time, these small choices rebuild the connection to your intuition and strengthen your ability to set boundaries that align with who you truly are.

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Katharine's links: Website, Mindfulness Quiz, Youtube

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