What does it really take to heal when life feels unbearable? In this episode, Malisa Hepner sits down with author, speaker, and Peace, Love and Bring a Bat podcast host David Chametzky for an honest conversation about mental health, emotional availability, and finding hope. David shares the practices that helped him move from surviving to truly living, including the healing power of havening, self-awareness, authentic love, and forgiveness. Together, they explore what it means to face your pain with compassion and create lasting emotional change.

When you're overwhelmed, resist the urge to judge what you're feeling. Instead, pause and ask yourself, "What is this emotion trying to tell me?" Meeting yourself with curiosity rather than criticism creates the safety needed for healing and lasting change.

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