I am back in conversation with an experienced intelligence professional in this episode of Espionage&. You can listen to Part One of the conversation here.

Is it easier to spy on democratic states as compared to authoritarian ones? Are defections relevant in today’s day and age? How do professionals feel about the term ‘Intelligence Failure’? How are Art Galleries facilitating corruption? And if he had to recruit Fawad Chaudhry, Pakistan’s Federal Minister for Science and Technology, how would he go about doing it?

Tune in to a freewheeling discussion that seeks to answer these questions.

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You may also enjoy reading my spy novels: Let Bhutto Eat Grass & Let Bhutto Eat Grass: Part 2 deal with nuclear weapons espionage in 1970s India, Pakistan, and Europe. The third and final part is expected mid-2021.

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