In this episode, I speak with journalist Rino Di Stefano, who originally covered and later wrote a book about the Zanfretta case, one of Europe’s most astonishing and well-documented UFO abduction cases. Between 1978 and 1980, Pier Fortunato Zanfretta, a security guard in the Genoa region of northern Italy, reported multiple abductions by towering reptilian beings. His terrifying encounters sparked official investigations, drew the attention of the Italian Carabinieri, and left behind physical traces that continue to puzzle researchers to this day.

We explore the key events of the case, from Zanfretta’s first abduction in 1978 to his final (official) disappearance in 1980, analyzing eyewitness accounts, forensic evidence, and hypnosis sessions conducted by leading medical professionals. Di Stefano shares his first-hand experiences investigating the case, including his participation in a rescue operation after one of Zanfretta’s vanishings.

Was this a genuine case of extraterrestrial contact, a psychological phenomenon, or something else entirely? Join us as we dive deep into the mystery of the Zanfretta abductions and the lasting impact they had on those involved.