
Happy new year cookies!! Hallie and Graydon hit the couch to start the year off dirty.... extra dirty. From Graydon’s date flopping to Hallie’s hot takes on dating apps and midlife bachelors, nothing is off-limits. They debate why men are a dying breed, how Hinge is broken, the much needed revival of rich kids on reality TV, and whether Hallie’s Valentine’s Day “Crumpet” deserves a second mention. Things get messy as they dive into coked-out college hookups, the perils of soft dick, their first ever alcoholic drink, and partying in high school. Plus, Graydon reveals his secret horse-girl era, and Hallie finally admits to an Uber Eats addiction that would make even Lucifer blush. So take out your soft d*ck and go follow @extradirty on socials, leave a review, a 5-star rating, and follow the show wherever you get your podcasts. Stay kind!
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Tim Allen
Abc. Tim Allen and Kat Dennings star in the new family comedy Shifting Gears.
Kat Dennings
Dad, I'm broke and I need a place to stay until I figure out what the rest of my life looks like.
Graydon
So a couple of days when his.
Tim Allen
Daughter moves back in.
Graydon
The last time you walked out that.
Tim Allen
Door, you looked back at me and.
Graydon
Gave me a double bird.
Kat Dennings
I was 18.
Hallie
The double bird was how I ended all our conversations.
Tim Allen
The wheels come off.
Kat Dennings
Can we try to talk to each other like rational adults?
Graydon
Have you watched the news lately? That's not a thing anymore.
Tim Allen
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Kat Dennings
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Lauren
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Graydon
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Kat Dennings
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Graydon
Have you ever dealt with a man that can't get hard? And what do you do?
Kat Dennings
I mean, rarely. I do everything to make that shit get up.
Graydon
You saying that so humbly, you're like, no. That's never happened to me in my life.
Kat Dennings
Okay, guys, I'm doing something really stupid right now. We have an emergency debrief situation. Hi, this is Hallie from the streets of New York. Guys, I had every intention of staying in last night. Okay, everyone, welcome back to Extra Dirty. I'm here with Graydon again.
Graydon
Hi.
Kat Dennings
Where do we start? Green? Let's get into some life updates or.
Graydon
Tell people how we've been.
Kat Dennings
Do you want to start?
Graydon
Yeah. So, since we last spoke, I have just been settling into my new apartment, and I'm not quite acclimated to where I live yet. So I've very much just been in bed for the past three weeks. Maybe.
Kat Dennings
Yeah.
Graydon
Because, to be honest with you, I'm kind of scared of going outside where I live.
Kat Dennings
I feel like that's a symptom of depression. I'm not gonna lie. I told you, I have to go to the doctor and get that checked out expeditiously.
Graydon
Okay. I don't have depression. I really appreciate your concern, but, like, I love being in bed so much, and it runs in my family. Like, my mom doesn't get out of bed either. And that's everything to me. It's healthy being in Bed is healthy.
Kat Dennings
No, it is, but I work out. You wonder why your Botox is like, doesn't last that long. It's because when you lay down a lot, it wears off quicker.
Graydon
No, that's a myth. I asked my injector.
Kat Dennings
Well, she's lying to you, so you keep coming back.
Graydon
She would never lie to me. Check.
Kat Dennings
No, no, she's lying to you.
Graydon
No, your Botox only it's bad to lay down after Botox because it can spread in the first four hours where your brain. No, you can get ptosis. It can spread somewhere else, and you can have a droopy ass eyelid and be like, I feel like. Like wake up from a nap. You're like, but I've been good. I got a blood panel.
Kat Dennings
Health is well.
Graydon
Yes.
Kat Dennings
I haven't gotten a physical in, like, four years, babe.
Graydon
I win. You know, I haven't gotten a physical in a really long time.
Kat Dennings
Wait, you don't even have health insurance. Talk about that quickly. Greyden does not have health insurance. We live on the edge.
Graydon
Okay, you didn't have health insurance up until, like, months ago.
Kat Dennings
Yeah, but I'm. I. I'm 27.
Graydon
Cool.
Kat Dennings
So I didn't have health insurance for like a six month period where it was, like, appropriate. Maybe like a little, like, wiggle room to get away with it. All right, let's stop talking about health insurance.
Graydon
Yeah, I'm getting sick.
Kat Dennings
Yeah, what else? How's the love life? How are we doing?
Graydon
The love life is non existent still. I was supposed to go on a date and. Well, I don't know if I would call it a date.
Kat Dennings
No, you were excited about it. I felt bad when it crashed and burned.
Graydon
Don't make me sound like a little soft pussy. I wasn't excited. I was just like, okay, like, whatever, like, I'm gonna go grab a drink with this person. He was hot.
Kat Dennings
He was hot. Now we look at him.
Graydon
He was disgust.
Kat Dennings
We hate him. Continue. Sorry.
Graydon
No, it's like, not. I guess it's nothing personal. You live and you learn and you move on. You. So we were gonna go grab drinks. I don't know if I would call it a date. I don't know what I would call it. Yeah, but he sent me this text and said, like, hey, like, to be honest, like, I'm gonna go get drinks and meet up with this person. And told me the person's name.
Kat Dennings
Yeah, but like, I. That guy is straight.
Graydon
Yeah. And the guy who was meeting up with is straight, which.
Kat Dennings
But you don't think so.
Graydon
But now we know that he's not straight because why the fuck would he be going to get drinks? I mean, not saying straight people and gay people can't, like, hang out together.
Kat Dennings
But you don't think that.
Graydon
But my spidey. My spidey senses went off and I was like, okay, he's gay.
Kat Dennings
No. Yeah.
Graydon
So that all crushed and burned and here we are.
Kat Dennings
Yeah.
Graydon
Weeks later. But you know what? I don't care.
Kat Dennings
I don't care either. Men make things so complicated. I'm gonna drop myself too. Yeah, we know this. I don't even try. I feel like I don't even try anymore. Like, I feel like when you, like, go out and hook up with. So I'm, like, too focused on, like, the drink in front of me and, like, the people I'm with to, like, go out of my way to, like, approach someone. Also, men do not approach anymore. You'll be out at a bar and maybe I'm going to the wrong places. But no one approaches anyone anymore.
Graydon
No. Men are a dying breed. I know I am one. But, like, I don't count as, like, the general population.
Kat Dennings
You don't count.
Graydon
Dating to me is just, like, such a waste of time these days.
Kat Dennings
Like, even this man who I'm talking to kind of. But, like, not really. But, like, we text, but he's, like, in his mid-40s. Even a guy that age that you think is, like, his frontal lobe is probably developed in some shit. He even is, like, fucking sending me weird emojis and, like, being skittish and very, like, coy and, like, be direct.
Graydon
Yeah, you just said be erect. Wait, old people, like, don't want to use emojis.
Kat Dennings
Don't be erect. No. He sends emojis, though. But there's probably a reason why he's single at the ripe age of 43. Isn't that odd? Like, I feel like at that age you should have it figured out. I know, but, like, men just always think there's like, another, like, a better option out there. Like, you can always go younger or hotter.
Graydon
I know, but, like, we're saying, like, there's something wrong with somebody if they're that old being single. But, like, what if that's us?
Kat Dennings
That will be at this rate, you know, my frontal lobe, I think I delayed that being developed.
Graydon
I think my lobes are all failing. I have, like, the worst brain fog ever.
Kat Dennings
No, we have lobe failure.
Graydon
Yes.
Kat Dennings
But he's super rich. Multi billionaire.
Graydon
Yeah. I couldn't imagine you would talk to somebody who's on.
Kat Dennings
I do Sometimes.
Graydon
Yeah.
Kat Dennings
Like, I've hooked up with broke men before.
Graydon
Yeah, of course.
Kat Dennings
Like, I don't need a rich man.
Graydon
Yeah, you are a rich man.
Kat Dennings
Not saying, like. No, not the saying.
Graydon
Like, sure.
Kat Dennings
Yeah. Not that. But, like, I would like a rich man. I just feel like that's reflective. On work ethic, I. Like, I would prefer someone with work ethic.
Graydon
Yeah. Like something of their own.
Kat Dennings
Yeah. Like, I don't want to go after a guy that comes for money. Generational wealth.
Graydon
Oh.
Kat Dennings
Or maybe I do.
Graydon
Are you sure about that?
Kat Dennings
No. Like a trust fund. A trust fund, baby. They're very different than, like, guys that have earned their own money.
Graydon
Okay. So my ideal situation would be to meet somebody and just, like, love their personality and have them be really funny, and then down the line, find out that they come from a lot of money, and then you don't feel as guilty. Then if people call you a gold digger, you can be like, you, I had no clue, but now I do, and I enjoy it a lot. Thank you.
Kat Dennings
Like, dating. Who owns the Patriots? Bill Belich. Oh, the coach.
Graydon
Yeah.
Kat Dennings
She's like, I had no idea yet.
Graydon
The coach? Yeah.
Kat Dennings
Younger than me.
Graydon
She didn't know he had money.
Kat Dennings
Yeah. She's like, I'm not with him for his money.
Graydon
Good for her.
Kat Dennings
She's, like, 25.
Graydon
No, he's been around for a while. I think she knew.
Kat Dennings
No, I'm dead.
Graydon
But, like, I won't judge. Go off.
Kat Dennings
No. Pop off, whatever.
Graydon
Like, pays your bills.
Kat Dennings
A girl's gotta eat. Yeah, a girl's gotta eat.
Graydon
Yeah.
Kat Dennings
But it's about quality of life. We're not here for a long time. We're here for a good time.
Graydon
So true.
Kat Dennings
What do you think about dating apps, about meeting people online?
Graydon
I have never done it.
Kat Dennings
You don't. Wait, Rye is homophobic. I forgot.
Graydon
Yeah. You guys, I have probably over 20 referrals on Raya since, like, 2018, and they won't let me on.
Kat Dennings
That's insane to me because I know girls on there with, like, a thousand followers. I don't even know how. I don't know how people.
Graydon
I don't know how it works.
Kat Dennings
I don't get how the algorithm works.
Graydon
Yeah, you.
Kat Dennings
I mean, I've talked about this online before, but, like, you'll match with someone across the world, and then, like, Then what?
Graydon
Do they pay for you to come out or.
Kat Dennings
No, that should be, like, built into Match Agreement.
Graydon
That should be built into the app.
Kat Dennings
Oh, yeah. You know, like, Raya should be covering all costs to get to the man, that's in Istanbul.
Graydon
Or the man should be covering it through Ryan.
Kat Dennings
That's ideal.
Graydon
Like, a flight that's not safe.
Kat Dennings
Like, to go across the world to meet a guy. I would only do that under, like, certain circumstances. If he had a mega yacht.
Graydon
Yeah. If he was like, oil money.
Kat Dennings
Oil money, yeah.
Graydon
Have security.
Kat Dennings
No. Yeah.
Graydon
What's your experience with dating apps?
Kat Dennings
Okay, so, like, my whole thing with dating apps is, like, I rarely meet up with someone on a dating app. I really only have Raya. Raya is the only one I've on. I've been on. I've been on Hinge, but, like, I. They don't. The algorithm's all broken. Like, I don't want to. These weird freaks. I really only go there to make myself feel better. Like, oh, my God. Like, you connect with someone. Like, I'm likable. Like, I just want attention. At the end of the day, I just want attention because I'm not getting it in the streets. New York. Like, from the wrong people, maybe, but it's just, like, they give you 11 guys, and then you have to wait, like, another seven hours to get the next batch. And honestly, they all don't look straight.
Graydon
That's how it works.
Kat Dennings
Yes.
Graydon
They bouch the men.
Kat Dennings
Yeah. And I pay for premium, which is really Sad. It's like 50 bucks a month.
Graydon
And you don't even mean anybody. Like, it's.
Kat Dennings
Well, actually, I have met up with one guy on Rya. He was really hot, tall, and British. Have I told you this story?
Graydon
I don't think so.
Kat Dennings
I met up with him. This is like a year and a half ago. It was Valentine's Day. Whatever.
Graydon
Does he have a name?
Kat Dennings
Let's just call him the hot British man.
Graydon
Let's call him Crumpet.
Kat Dennings
Let's call. Let's call him Crumpet.
Graydon
So you met up with Crumpet?
Kat Dennings
Yeah, and I didn't really pay attention to the date. It was Valentine's Day Day, and that was our first date ever. And this is, like, the first date I've ever been on on Raya. But he was, like, really hot, really tall, built, and, like, had an accent.
Graydon
It was on Valentine's Day and you didn't know?
Kat Dennings
I, like, wasn't really paying attention. I hate Valentine's Day. Yeah, we'll get back to that. I just think it's a dumb holiday. I wasn't really paying attention to the calendar.
Graydon
Yeah, yeah.
Kat Dennings
Haven't been in a relationship in seven years. Why would I care about February 14th? So anyways, we Went to this Italian restaurant. It was packed. It was clear that it was a holiday that was celebrating love. There was. There was couples surrounding us. I had made. This is when I first started social media, too. So I just, like, had made, like, a little cheeky, like, get ready with me for a first date. And I had called out the fact that it was Valentine's Day. I was like, I'm just realizing now it's Valentine's Day. And I remember we sat down, we had our apps, whatever. I went to the bathroom, and when I got back, he goes, wait, I just checked my phone. About, like, seven people had sent me me your tik tok. And I was like, oh, no, the man. Yeah. In. In this tik tok. I'm being so vile and vulgar. I'm like, I hope I don't him on the first date. I ended up him on the first.
Graydon
Him on the first date.
Kat Dennings
100%.
Graydon
Yeah. He was like 66.
Kat Dennings
Crump was laying down the pipe.
Graydon
He put his crumpet in your jam.
Kat Dennings
He bump.
Graydon
I'm so sorry. I'm so sorry about that.
Kat Dennings
No, so the weird thing about the state, he also, right after we were at this Italian restaurant, but he's like, we should go to this drag bar right next door.
Graydon
He's gay. Was he a drag queen? Plot twist.
Kat Dennings
No, but I was like, he, like, knew. It's almost like he knew the drag queen schedule. He's like, oh, a show is on at 10pm.
Graydon
So did you. Were you like.
Kat Dennings
Yeah, yeah, I was like, wait, that'll be really fun. But I, like, didn't really put much thought into it besides the fact that, like, oh, wait, first date. He wants to bring me to a drag show afterwards. And we went to a drag show. We were like, front row. I'm, like, wondering now if we. He had, like, tickets before asking me. Like, we were. We had good seats. It was fun. And then after the drag show, I guess that, like, sealed. Put the nail in the coffin. I brought him back after that, and we had sex on my kitchen counter on my island.
Graydon
Oh, yeah, I remember this story.
Kat Dennings
Yeah.
Graydon
On the kitchen counter.
Kat Dennings
On the kitchen counter.
Graydon
Yeah. Didn't he sleep. Did he sleep over or. No, he did.
Kat Dennings
He slept at my couch. I don't cuddle.
Graydon
Okay. Because you were trying to cuddle me last night.
Kat Dennings
No. You were trying to cuddle me last night. No, no. I kept pushing you off of me.
Graydon
Also.
Kat Dennings
You're like, a violent sleeper.
Graydon
No, I. Stay still.
Kat Dennings
No, I kept kicking your leg. Oh, I was up from, like, Three to five because you kept moving over on top of me.
Graydon
Really?
Kat Dennings
Yeah.
Graydon
Well, you kept taking on the covers.
Kat Dennings
Okay, it's my bed freaking week. Well, they didn't fit me, but yeah, whatever.
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Kat Dennings
Did you know that I never share a bed with a guy, ever?
Graydon
Like, somebody you're sleeping with?
Kat Dennings
Like. Well, like, this is why I'm so bad at dating. Getting back to dating apps. This is why I'm so horrible at it is because I do what makes me feel good in the moment at all times. I never think ahead. I don't think about the consequences of my actions. I will sleep with someone the first date, not giving a on how that reflects on me. I don't believe in that rule. People are like, oh, you should wait three dates. I don't. I think that's a bunch of. But also, I'm single still, so maybe that.
Graydon
No, I don't think we should be going around saying, like, you have to hold yourself out. If you want to, then. I mean, also, I've never.
Kat Dennings
What's the point?
Graydon
I haven't in, like, 27 years. So, like, I don't really know.
Kat Dennings
But are you a top or a bottom?
Graydon
We already went over this in the first episode.
Kat Dennings
We did?
Graydon
Yeah.
Kat Dennings
I forget, though.
Graydon
You think I'm a bottom.
Kat Dennings
You're too tall. Oh, you said you were too tall to be a bottom.
Graydon
I'm too tall and I'm too lazy. And I'm not a ventriloquist. I can't even touch my toes, let alone bend over and arch my back. Hell no. Have you ever dealt with a man that can't get hard? And what do you Do.
Kat Dennings
I mean, rarely. I do everything to make that get up.
Graydon
You saying that so humbly. You're like, no, that's never happened to me in my life.
Kat Dennings
I mean, I bring that out like a wet towel if I have to. There was this kid I used to hook up with in college that was such a cokehead, which honestly drew me to him.
Graydon
Yeah.
Kat Dennings
Even more.
Graydon
Okay. Dark times in college sometimes. I understand.
Kat Dennings
No, but this guy was like, the plug.
Graydon
Mm.
Kat Dennings
So I kept close. He wasn't the hottest guy, but he always had the bag on him.
Graydon
Yeah.
Kat Dennings
So. So I kept close and I sucked when I had to. But sometimes, you know, there's a caveat. There's a caveat. There's a copy.
Graydon
There's a coffee cock.
Kat Dennings
I mean, when you're like. He was. He was always, like, up and coked out. And like, when you're like, coked out to that extent, I fear you can't feel a lot of your organs.
Graydon
Yeah. So he had chronic coke dick?
Kat Dennings
Yeah, he had coke dick all the time. All the time.
Graydon
During the day, at night, in the afternoon, during lunch. Every time.
Kat Dennings
Yeah, yeah. It was, like, not ideal.
Graydon
So you were chewing on bubblegum the whole time? What do you mean?
Kat Dennings
It was more like Saran Wrap.
Graydon
What? What do you mean, Saran Wrap?
Kat Dennings
Like, picture, like, what?
Graydon
Saran Wrap that wrinkly and small and just useless.
Kat Dennings
No. Yeah. It's like, what do I do from here? Actually, I've hooked up with a couple guys that couldn't get hard. Like, sometimes when you can't get hard, I'm like, okay, then you're gay. That's. There's no other thought that goes through my mind. It's not like, oh, am I doing something wrong? Is it me? I never have those thoughts. It's usually okay. They're coked out, too drunk, or he's gay. The fourth thought would be like, oh, maybe I'm not doing it for him.
Graydon
Yeah. But I don't believe that for a second. Do you think performance anxiety is, like, a real thing? Like, do you think men who say, oh, I'm nervous, like, I'm anxious, I can't get hard. Do you think that's, like, true? Or do you think that's a cover up for, like, something deeper?
Kat Dennings
You think it's like a cop out, maybe?
Graydon
I mean, it's never happened.
Kat Dennings
Guys be like, I'm nervous or something, and I'm like, grow the up.
Graydon
Yeah, grow a pair. You have a pair there. Clearly use them.
Kat Dennings
Or like, when they finish too quickly. I do this thing. I used to do this thing. Anyways, I don't really do this thing anymore. Cuz it's like, kind of mean.
Graydon
You make them feel small.
Kat Dennings
I make them feel like the smallest man alive.
Graydon
What do you do? Tell me. Do you look at them and you're like, no.
Kat Dennings
No. Usually I'll pull out my own vibrator or whatever and I'll just like, masturbate right in front of them until I finish. And while they're just like, sitting there with, like, come all over them.
Graydon
That is humiliating.
Kat Dennings
No, it's like, so mean.
Graydon
You're like, you couldn't make me come, so here I go.
Kat Dennings
I'm like, let me show you how.
Graydon
You're like, vibrator clit, boom time.
Kat Dennings
Actually really mean. But like, sometimes it's like, kind of.
Graydon
Like they need to be humbled.
Kat Dennings
It's humbling. Also, I feel like I'm standing on business. I also end up finishing. I. I don't have a hard time finishing ever.
Graydon
Okay.
Kat Dennings
Unless a guy's like, too quick with it or like a bunny rabbit.
Graydon
Yeah.
Kat Dennings
A little jackrabbit.
Graydon
Oh, we hit a jackrabbit.
Kat Dennings
Who doesn't? Yeah, it's like giving frat boy. Do you know what that is?
Graydon
Like a one pump wonder.
Kat Dennings
Like a two pump and dump.
Graydon
What?
Kat Dennings
A two pump and dump.
Graydon
A two pump and dump.
Kat Dennings
Yeah.
Graydon
Well, see you in biology class. Sorry, I didn't go to real college, so I don't really know why I said that.
Kat Dennings
See you in bio.
Graydon
See you in bio, girl. See you at the mixer next week. I'm bringing Sally. Cheers. To, like, no soft dicks ever.
Kat Dennings
No, to always making them hard.
Graydon
Mm. I love Rose.
Kat Dennings
No, it's so good. But it makes me miss summer.
Graydon
I know. I was just gonna say it's weird we're drinking it when it's not the summer.
Kat Dennings
Yeah, it's like during the holidays now. How do you feel about the holidays?
Graydon
I love the holidays.
Kat Dennings
I feel like it's like I'm spread so thin this time of year. In, like.
Graydon
In what way?
Kat Dennings
Just, like, so many events.
Graydon
Oh, it must be so hard.
Kat Dennings
No, like, not even. I'm not saying the events are bad. Like, I love recharging my social battery. I'm alone. I live alone. So, like, being alone all week and then going out at night, it's like, makes me happy. Yeah, But I just feel guilt in having a lot of drinking occasions, you know, like, you'll go to a friend's giving, or you go to the Christmas soiree, and yada, Bing bong.
Graydon
Yeah.
Kat Dennings
And there's just always champagne and, like, not that, like, I need a drink, but, like, sometimes there's bubbles in front of you and they.
Graydon
Yeah, you can't not drink it.
Kat Dennings
No. It'd be rude to Santa Claus.
Graydon
I don't think we should feel shame drinking, because people nowadays are drinking, like, one day a week.
Kat Dennings
It's, like, cool to be sober now.
Graydon
Yeah. Not in my book.
Kat Dennings
No.
Graydon
It used to be people used to openly drink, like, have a drink every day after work. Now people are, like, picking and choosing.
Kat Dennings
My parents, too.
Graydon
Yeah. It's like the. I'm saying the new generation is not drinking. I get it. If you're an alcoholic, don't drink.
Kat Dennings
I think arguably humans are getting smarter in finding out that.
Graydon
Don't even.
Kat Dennings
No, like, in finding out that alcohol is like poison, but I just choose.
Graydon
Alcohol'S poison.
Kat Dennings
I don't know. Like.
Graydon
Like, yeah, it's not good for you, but a lot of things aren't good for you.
Kat Dennings
I just think being sober, I could do it. I've gone through weeks where, like, I haven't drank, like, in middle school.
Graydon
All I'm saying is all these people are like, if you cut out alcohol for two weeks out of your life, like, you're going to feel amazing. I've done that. And I feel the same. I'm still exhausted. I'm still sometimes moody. Like, I still have trouble getting up the stairs. I, like, I'm huffing and puffing and I look the same. Everyone's like, you're of a glow. No, you won't.
Kat Dennings
I know. I agree. I just feel like, why not?
Graydon
Why not what?
Kat Dennings
Like, drink when there's a drink offered.
Graydon
I just think it's like, culture.
Kat Dennings
Culture.
Graydon
We're not booze bags. We're not drinking together every time we're together. That's a lie. Like, we're not drinking during the day. We're not, like, binge drinking. Like, we like to enjoy a couple martinis, like, get a little buzzed, and then we go home and we sleep together. Not in a sexual way, of course. We really don't get sloppy.
Kat Dennings
Speak for yourself. I mean, I've. I've been such a lightweight recently. I don't know what's happening. I don't know if it's because I've been traveling a lot or I don't know if my, like, sleep has not been. My sleep has been horrible.
Graydon
Ever since you went to Australia.
Kat Dennings
No, ever since I've been to Australia, I'll have one drink and I'll be cross eyed and I'll have the worst anxiety the next day it'll go right to my head. Do I. I don't know, like I'm not mad about it. I just hope no one else I'm around is.
Graydon
No, no, you're not like flopping around like it. Yeah, it does. I mean I used to do that.
Kat Dennings
But like I know. Honestly I kind of miss the days like where you drink like bubblegum Spedka.
Graydon
Like a random ass flavor of vodka.
Kat Dennings
Yeah. And you'd be like in your best friend's family home's basement, like 17 at.
Graydon
Your best friend and you might play like the closet. What's the closet game?
Kat Dennings
Fetty Wap was on repeat and like Chief Keef.
Graydon
Fetty Wap? Yeah. Like, yeah. If I was on a. At parties, like people would probably scream at me and tell like me to change the ox because I would play like throwbacks. I would be playing like Nelly Furtado and like, like J. Cole or some. Yeah, but yeah, I used to drink.
Kat Dennings
Like a whole insane in high school.
Graydon
Yeah, I love high school. I really missed high school.
Kat Dennings
I feel like you were the type of kid to like cause a scene like the front yard of someone's house party.
Graydon
No, I was the one inviting people to parties. I would invite all the people to parties. I would just be so happy and like other people would get in fights and I would just like run away.
Kat Dennings
Were you out in high school?
Graydon
I was out when I was like, I never came out. I was just. I've been out. I've been stepping out since I was little.
Kat Dennings
Really?
Graydon
Yeah.
Kat Dennings
Who was your first crush?
Graydon
Naked Brothers Band. Do you remember them?
Kat Dennings
Well, yeah, I have to look this up.
Graydon
I think that was my gay awakening or Bieber. Why? Okay, well, he's ugly now but like at the time he was like very captivating. I was like what? Seven? And he was seven. I was like, he's cute. After that it was Bieber though. Bieber really instilled a lot of feelings in me.
Kat Dennings
So niche to me it is.
Graydon
Do you, do you recall?
Kat Dennings
Yeah, yeah. They are cutie pies.
Graydon
Yeah, they were cute. They had the song called Crazy Car that I would like legit like scream in my bedroom.
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Kat Dennings
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Graydon
When's the first time you had a drink?
Kat Dennings
The first time I drank was probably when I was 14.
Graydon
Okay.
Kat Dennings
And I was just on Nantucket in the middle of the woods. And, like, this kid had a water bottle, like, took the wrapper off.
Graydon
What kind? What was it?
Kat Dennings
Bombay?
Graydon
No, Sapphire. That's bougie. Wait, well, you're on Nantucket. Yeah. Never mind.
Kat Dennings
But, like, no, then after that, I was addicted to Bombay Sapphire. Like, I couldn't have an, like, vodka, tequila. I actually didn't like tequila until after college, but I was a Bombay Sapphire cunt.
Graydon
Yeah.
Kat Dennings
Yeah. I remember the first time I drank, I lied down in my bed to have the spins, which, by the way, I don't get anymore. I just think I'm constantly spinning now.
Graydon
Oh, I got the spins really bad.
Kat Dennings
Really?
Graydon
Still, if I drink too much, I'll get the spins and I have to make myself throw up, I think.
Kat Dennings
Oh, yeah, No, I think I had, like, one shot, but, like, alcohol had never touched my body before, so I was just, like, spinning. It was fun, honestly. Yeah.
Graydon
First time I drink, I didn't get drunk. We. We would pretend we're drunk.
Kat Dennings
Six, eight.
Graydon
I wasn't six, eight when I was 13.
Kat Dennings
Okay.
Graydon
Anyway, we drank. I forgot what we drank. It was probably like, UV Blue or something. Or like Bacardi UV Blue. Or.
Kat Dennings
Did you ever drink Hypnotic?
Graydon
Like, literally three times, unfortunately. Wasn't that Nicki Minaj's brand or something?
Kat Dennings
I don't know. But I used to, like, when I would have, like, after parties for, like, semi formal prom, it would always be at my house in Boston.
Graydon
Yeah.
Kat Dennings
And I would always buy Hypnotic in, like, Bacardi and, like, the most random janky brands.
Graydon
Yeah. Like, flavored of vodka.
Kat Dennings
Flavored.
Graydon
Yeah.
Kat Dennings
I could take down. But like, when you're younger, like, you can take down flavored vodka.
Graydon
Well, you want to because you're drinking it straight, so you need it to be flavored.
Kat Dennings
Malibu.
Graydon
The first time I got drunk, I was like. We were, like, legit. We each took, like, two shots and we were pretending like we were drunk. And then the Next day I went to school. This was in junior high. I was in, like, seventh grade. And one of my friends started a rumor that, like, I kissed this boy in the basement when we all got drunk the night before. And he was so pissed. And I was like, low key, like, hey, like, somebody started a rumor about me? Yeah, we never kissed.
Kat Dennings
Wait, really?
Graydon
Yeah.
Kat Dennings
Was he hot?
Graydon
No, he, like, had a bowl cut. Well, so did I. I legit had a bowl cut.
Kat Dennings
No, no, no. And then I got alcohol poisoning accidentally, once. But, like, all right, this episode, I'm gonna sound like such a booze bag, but I'm really just getting into the depths of, like, when I started drinking, it was reminder youngest. So it was like sweet 16 season. I was probably 15, 14 and a half. It was probably right after I had my first drink. And I was like, yeah, like. But, like, it was at the point where I was like, okay, I have to sneak the liquor. My parents can't know. I'm, like, going to their liquor cabinet. So I took every clear liquid from their liquor cabinet, mixed it, combine them into one full water bottle. So I'm talking gin, clear, tequila, vodka, clear rum, etc, combined it all. And I got so sick. Like, pre gaming, I drink the whole water bottle in 30 minutes. I couldn't see straight. I. I remember it so clearly. My mom had to come pick me up at the pregame, and then they grounded me for nine months.
Graydon
Nine months?
Kat Dennings
Yeah. Well, they said nine months and I had to go back to karate. I was 14 half. And I had to, like, put on my gi again and go back to karate every Thursday night and Saturday morning.
Graydon
And you were a black belt?
Kat Dennings
Yeah.
Graydon
And they made you just keep being a black belt?
Kat Dennings
They thought it was, like, good for my character.
Graydon
Do people know you used to, like, be good at karate?
Kat Dennings
I used to, like, be really good at karate.
Graydon
Would you chop the board in half?
Kat Dennings
Yeah, I chopped multiple boards that were stacked on to each. Like, all the boards. I used to step on the boards. I used to do push ups on my knuckles and on my fingertips. I used to beat the out of boys. Like, I was the only girl in my, like, belt group. And I would throw down.
Graydon
You were like, legit Jackie Chan, probably.
Kat Dennings
No, I was Jackie Chan.
Graydon
I'd love that.
Kat Dennings
And I had, like, an arch nemesis that we'd all. It would always be us at the end of the tournament.
Graydon
Would you win?
Kat Dennings
Yeah, well, like, half the time, I'd win. Half the time, he would win. You would compete against boys More aggressive.
Graydon
Yeah.
Kat Dennings
You have more anger I would get, like. He used to clap me in the face and I'd be like, bro, that's not karate.
Graydon
Can't you not hit each other in the face?
Kat Dennings
Yeah. He would, like, get, like, technical points on me. But I got so good to the point where I started being, like, a judge. Like, I would be like, there'd be three judges sitting up there watching. Like, the younger classes, the younger belts, like, the lower belts, and I would be a judge and I would give them scores. Like, I was, like, dedicated to karate.
Graydon
Good for you.
Kat Dennings
No, it was, like, the one thing.
Graydon
Why don't you take it up again?
Kat Dennings
You know, I've always, like, thought about, like, it would be cool, but, like, we don't need that. Also, I have acrylic, so I don't think it would mesh.
Graydon
Yeah, you'd have to take those off.
Kat Dennings
Also, I'm a brown belt, but when you're a black belt, technically your hands are registered weapons.
Graydon
What?
Kat Dennings
Yeah.
Graydon
Like, really?
Kat Dennings
So what if I, like, gave a guy a hand job? It went wrong. It would be assault.
Graydon
What if it twitched and you did a karate move and, like, you snapped the dick in half? Like, put it up his ass? No, sorry. Technical foul.
Kat Dennings
Or did you play any sports growing up? I don't even know that.
Graydon
Yeah, I grew up riding horses because one day I went to the barn with one of my friends off the bus and I was like, wait, I love this. And then a few years went by and I had two horses. And then my dad got rid of them because my grades were really bad and he didn't tell me. So one day I showed up to the barn and my trainer was like, that's not your horse anymore. Like, we lease it out to somebody else.
Kat Dennings
You can lease horses?
Graydon
Yeah. It's really expensive. It's like you can lease them from different countries.
Kat Dennings
Oh, wow. Wait, that's sad.
Graydon
Yeah.
Kat Dennings
Why were your grades bad?
Graydon
I wasn't much of a scholar.
Kat Dennings
Me neither. But here we are.
Graydon
Okay, we just had to refill our glasses because we need to have a moment of silence because my dear friend Hallie Bachelder is in a very sticky situation. It's been a very traumatic week.
Kat Dennings
Yeah.
Hallie
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Graydon
Do you want to tell them a little bit what happened? It's going to be hard to say out loud.
Kat Dennings
It's not this week. It's been a traumatic month.
Graydon
This is a very sensitive topic. It's been a. It's been a good, like, month. You've been going through it.
Kat Dennings
Yeah. I really appreciate you, like, taking the time to acknowledge this. Actually.
Graydon
No, like, I know how it feels. It sucks.
Kat Dennings
No, it feels like a organ was ripped out of my body and thrown to the wolves.
Graydon
An organ you thought, like, didn't exist.
Kat Dennings
Yeah, I had an appendicitis, but it was a jet blue card as it.
Graydon
Was a credit card as it is.
Kat Dennings
Credit card as it is. And it acted up. It flared up. I had to go to the doctor and it was removed from my Apple Pay wallet.
Graydon
So sad.
Kat Dennings
And you know what? In times like this, I shall persevere.
Graydon
In times like this, you need your friends.
Kat Dennings
No, and I'm really happy you took the time to, like, come out to New York and sit with me and really just talk it through.
Graydon
You guys, I had to come. I had to fly into New York because she was going through it. I. The credit card is gone.
Kat Dennings
It's gone. We have to put like, respect on the credit card's name.
Graydon
Yes.
Kat Dennings
It got me through a lot of tough times. A lot of Amtrak and, you know, revolve expeditions. Travel, travel clothes.
Graydon
Is it selling on your Uber? Uber Breaths. Uber.
Kat Dennings
Well, I still have access to my dad's black card. Wait, no, it's just the Apple.
Graydon
Okay. The Jet Blue card. You have the black card.
Kat Dennings
No, I know.
Graydon
Okay. I didn't know this.
Kat Dennings
It's right there.
Graydon
Oh. Oh, my God. Thank you.
Kat Dennings
Anyways, but the Apple pay, like, I. It's important because when I'm at, you know, Starbucks, it just.
Graydon
Okay, so you don't have the black card on Apple Pay.
Kat Dennings
No, I don't.
Graydon
Okay. I under. Okay, I understand. I'm sorry. I judged you a little, like, to.
Kat Dennings
Get like furniture and stuff, like.
Graydon
Yes.
Kat Dennings
Also Uber. My dad does not believe in the subway.
Graydon
Yes.
Kat Dennings
He doesn't believe in Uber X's either.
Graydon
People are Getting stabbed.
Kat Dennings
So like New York is like Gotham and he like, I sound like a dick. I am a dick. And like an out of touch dick. But like New York is Gotham. These are safety measures. He also just doesn't want us to look bad or dress bad either. So, you know, clothes and hair falls into the nails maybe too.
Graydon
The K tips fall under that K tips fault, definitely.
Kat Dennings
Well, usually when I go used to Apple pay. No, the Q tips are mine now.
Graydon
The black card hates to see the Q tips coming. Those are so expensive. They should have K tip insurance. Like, is there like a.
Kat Dennings
No. I know. I didn't choose to be actually. Well, I do choose to be a fake blonde, but these are the things I'll live with. Whatever. I can cover the K tips. It's fine.
Graydon
Okay.
Kat Dennings
But yeah, it's been, it's been weird. My dad just randomly on a Tuesday morning, I think it was like before the sun was even up. It was like 6:45am he sent us a text and he goes, hi, just want to let you guys know that the JetBlue card is canceled. Good luck. I love you.
Graydon
It's always the JetBlue card. Have you noticed that? That happened to me. I whimpered, don't they want the points for JetBlue points?
Kat Dennings
He goes, I wasn't using it. I go, Well, I was.
Graydon
We were. The whole family was.
Kat Dennings
Yes.
Graydon
It's always the JetBlue card. It's never the amegs.
Kat Dennings
It's an epidemic. I honestly wanted to do like a wellness check on him. I thought maybe he was having a manic episode.
Graydon
Yeah.
Kat Dennings
But no, it turns out it was just a regular Tuesday and he was just putting his foot down.
Graydon
I hate. Don't you hate when they put their foot down?
Kat Dennings
It's just annoying. One of the biggest reasons I think he was not happy with, I mean, he, like, sometimes I'll get a random email being like new purchase activity. That email like, like drives a sword through my chest. It gives me the most anxiety ever. But it's not always me. My dad will CC all my siblings. It's usually me, but it's not always me. I have this thing with Uber eats. I'm lazy. I don't want to go to Whole Foods. And I used to live near Union Square park, which the Whole Foods there, by the way is scary and ass. Like, I don't. It's a little suspect. So I would just do like a lot of Uber eating. But I was going through this like healthy kick era where I was ordering these acai bowls Every morning. But you could, like, add boosters to them. So you could add, like, a B12. And I like Poseidon's dick hair. And, like, you could add whatever you wanted. Honestly, at one point, I was like, I think I'm adding too many vitamins. I might grow a third leg or, like, grow wings or something.
Graydon
Like, they were all canceling each other out at one point.
Kat Dennings
I had no idea what I was putting into my body. I just like the numbers and letters. It looked good to me. Like, I don't even know what I was putting into my body. But they would cost about 65 bucks. And he was like, what are you ordering every morning?
Graydon
I'll say. Evil.
Kat Dennings
It had the, like. I swear, Lucifer's come was in it. It was all the superpowers I needed.
Graydon
I'm done. So he didn't like that?
Kat Dennings
No, he didn't love that.
Graydon
I don't blame him.
Kat Dennings
And we also ordered, like, 200 worth of joe Shanghai last night. Chinese food.
Graydon
Okay, but we split that.
Kat Dennings
But if you're drunk and you do it, like, after a night out, it's a safety measure. It's an expense.
Graydon
Yeah, that's an expense.
Kat Dennings
That's an expense.
Graydon
Yeah. Yeah, I understand why he would be mad about an acai bowl. That's insane.
Kat Dennings
I looked really. My skin was really good. I thought I was being healthy.
Graydon
You were.
Kat Dennings
Yeah.
Graydon
At a cost.
Kat Dennings
At it. Not my cost. What's your favorite reality TV show right now?
Graydon
Today, Holly and I. Well, today I put on Rich Kids of Beverly Hills because obviously, Halle got cut off. So, like, I wanted her, which she's seen. But, like, we. We watched it from start to finish for the first season. If you haven't seen Rich Kids, it's so good. We need to bring the wealth back to reality tv.
Kat Dennings
I agree.
Graydon
These kids were our age.
Kat Dennings
Yep.
Graydon
Kind of like Halle, but, like, they're like. It was like Bill, they have billions and billions of dollars. Like, they have disposable income.
Kat Dennings
They're like buying Birkins.
Graydon
They would go like, Roxy went shopping, and she spent half a million dollars and just put it on her credit card. So you have Roxy. You have Morgan Stewart, obviously, who's iconic, who's Sonic, who's married to Dr. Phil's son. Now you have Dorothy Wang, who just got engaged last week. Her dad's, like, a real estate mogul in China.
Kat Dennings
Do you keep up with all these people?
Graydon
No. This show was, like, my upbringing in high school.
Kat Dennings
It's amazing. It's a great show. And honestly, they're all iconic.
Graydon
Yeah. But they were our age when they filmed this show, which is crazy.
Kat Dennings
I always think we. We would be amazing on reality tv.
Graydon
I know. Especially if we had all that money. I mean, if you had. If you're a billionaire, I feel like you would just do well on TV in general.
Kat Dennings
You should do a Nantucket show.
Graydon
I know.
Kat Dennings
I feel like the people want that.
Graydon
Yeah. We could just.
Kat Dennings
The amount of drama that goes on in Nantucket, I feel like that's where everyone gets into the most fights, where the juiciest happens. We're going out. We're spending the most money.
Graydon
Yeah.
Kat Dennings
Buying bottles. It's just, like, so much fun.
Graydon
You're stuck on a little island.
Kat Dennings
Yeah. Expanded country club.
Graydon
All you can do is eat caviar, eat a lobster roll, or drink a.
Kat Dennings
Cucumber and go to stubbies after fights break out. Yada, yada, bing, bong, pop up, punched in the face this summer. Popped in the face. Car picks you up, brother screaming at brother. I mean, it's just like. It's great tv. You were a good friend. I cried a lot.
Graydon
I miss summer.
Kat Dennings
It was a tough summer.
Graydon
It was a tough summer for, like, a week, though. It was that one week I was visiting.
Kat Dennings
I just don't like conflict.
Graydon
Yeah, there was a lot of conflict. But other than that, we had an amazing summer.
Kat Dennings
No, we did. We're in the Hamptons a lot this summer.
Graydon
I miss it.
Kat Dennings
I miss it so much.
Graydon
We were in the Hamptons a lot this summer. Unfortunately. I'm just gonna say unfortunately.
Kat Dennings
I thought it was fun when I.
Graydon
Was fun, but, like, there's nothing like Nantucket.
Kat Dennings
No, you can't be in Nantucket over Hampton's any day of the week. I will say that directly to the camera.
Graydon
Yep.
Kat Dennings
Nantucket always wins. I mean, I'm biased. My parents got married there. I grew up going there, you know, Closer. Yeah, it's closer. To me, it's just such, like. You can't copy and paste Nantucket. I feel like Hamptons is just, like. It's not even an island. It's like an extended version of Nantucket.
Graydon
It's like a country. It's too huge.
Kat Dennings
It's too sceney, too.
Graydon
It's way too big. It takes 45 minutes just to get somewhere. The beaches aren't as good as Nantucket. The food's not as good.
Kat Dennings
Nope.
Graydon
And everyone's competing. Nobody competes on Nantucket.
Kat Dennings
No one gives a on antique.
Graydon
They just coexist.
Kat Dennings
We're coexisting. We all have fat pockets, and we're just running amok and just trying to enjoy ourselves. The vibes are always high. Okay, before we end this episode, I want to get into a little bit what we're doing tonight. What are we doing tonight? Crayton?
Graydon
So all I heard was. I was like, what are we doing tonight? To Lauren, who unfortunately is not here. I was like, lauren, what are we doing tonight? And she said. She looked at me and she said, we're going out with daddies.
Kat Dennings
Yeah, I've slept with a few of them.
Graydon
Okay.
Kat Dennings
They're all, like, in the same friend group. They're all super wealthy. They're all super, like, nice, fun guys. They always know, like, the coolest spots to go to. So I'm, like, kind of worried what we're gonna get into tonight. Like, physically, you might be sleeping on the couch, or it might not be here.
Graydon
Okay, like, I'll sleep on the couch.
Kat Dennings
No. Like, what's velvet couch? I don't want to have sex with anyone on this couch.
Graydon
Well, I would sleep on the couch so you could. In your bed. But then I'm gonna hear it, and then I'm just gonna open the door and probably come in anyway.
Kat Dennings
No, but we might be getting into some trouble tonight. I think we're going to dinner, and then we're going out to this new spa in New York. Oh, it's newer. I think it's called Petite Disco. I have not been yet, but I've heard, like, a lot of really good things about it. Let's see where the night takes us. I know we have an early Amtrak early train to Boston in the morning.
Graydon
We're going to Boston for Maggie's, our friend Maggie's birthday.
Kat Dennings
Very excited about that.
Graydon
We're gonna start off with some caviar and drinks in a suite at, like, a really dope hotel in Boston. Then we're gonna go to Contessa for dinner. You haven't been back to Boston in a while.
Kat Dennings
I haven't been since maybe.
Graydon
Yeah. I'm so excited to be so much. We can, like, be so chill and, like, drive around and, like. Like, go get coffee and, like, pop into some shops. Realistically, just lay in bed the whole time.
Kat Dennings
Watch for reality tv.
Graydon
Yeah.
Kat Dennings
But no, I'm just, like, excited to be back. Be back with my family, my parents. I just feel like I haven't seen them in a minute, so I know I miss them. We're gonna have fun.
Graydon
Yeah. You want me to do the outro?
Kat Dennings
Why don't you just kick it off for the outro? I'm so bad at the outro.
Graydon
Okay, I'll kick off the outro for Halle because I understand sometimes it goes that's a little puzzled in the tongue. Unless there's a dick in your mouth, don't forget to give us a thumbs up. Give us a review. Follow us on socials at Extra Dirty.
Kat Dennings
Like subscribe all the good things.
Graydon
Love you freaks. Bye.
Hallie
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Podcast Summary: Extra Dirty with Hallie Batchelder
Episode: "Dating apps are broken + men are a dying breed"
Release Date: January 2, 2025
In this episode of Extra Dirty with Hallie Batchelder, host Hallie Batchelder, alongside her co-host Graydon Cutler, delves deep into the murky waters of modern dating. Titled "Dating apps are broken + men are a dying breed," the episode explores the challenges and frustrations surrounding online dating platforms, the perceived decline of genuine male interest, and personal anecdotes that highlight these issues.
Graydon's New Apartment and Mental Health Concerns
Graydon opens up about his recent move into a new apartment and his struggles adjusting to his new environment. He admits to spending the past three weeks mostly in bed, sparking concerns from Hallie about potential symptoms of depression.
Hallie: "I feel like that's a symptom of depression. I'm not gonna lie. I told you, I have to go to the doctor and get that checked out expeditiously." [02:04]
Graydon: "I don't have depression. I really appreciate your concern, but, like, I love being in bed so much, and it runs in my family." [02:13]
Health Insurance Woes
The conversation shifts to health insurance, revealing that Graydon has only recently secured coverage after a prolonged period without it. Hallie shares her own lapse in insurance coverage, highlighting the precariousness of their financial and health situations.
Hallie: "Greyden does not have health insurance. We live on the edge." [03:01]
Graydon: "Yeah, but I'm... I'm 27." [03:11]
Men's Lack of Initiative
Hallie and Graydon express frustration over the diminishing number of men who take the initiative in dating scenarios. They lament that men no longer approach women, making the dating landscape increasingly challenging.
Hallie: "Men do not approach anymore. You'll be out at a bar and maybe I'm going to the wrong places. But no one approaches anyone anymore." [05:08]
Graydon: "Men are a dying breed. I know I am one." [05:15]
Personal Dating Experiences
Graydon recounts a recent awkward date where the man he was supposed to meet turned out not to be straight, leading to an immediate end to the evening. Both hosts share stories of encounters where men's lack of genuine interest or orientation complications disrupted potential relationships.
Hallie: "He was disgust." [05:49]
Graydon: "So we were gonna go grab drinks... now we know that he's not straight because why the fuck would he be going to get drinks?" [05:19]
Disillusionment with Dating Apps
The duo criticizes dating apps for their inefficiency and the superficial interactions they often foster. They discuss the high costs of premium subscriptions and the frustration of not finding genuine connections despite numerous matches.
Hallie: "I really only go there to make myself feel better. Like, oh, my God. Like, you connect with someone. Like, I'm likable." [09:05]
Graydon: "Rya... I have probably over 20 referrals on Raya since, like, 2018, and they won't let me on." [08:05]
Early Drinking Experiences
Hallie reminisces about her early experiences with alcohol, detailing how her first drink led to severe intoxication and subsequent grounding by her parents. These anecdotes illustrate the complex relationship she has with alcohol, balancing moments of fun with the repercussions of overindulgence.
Hallie: "I had to go back to karate every Thursday night and Saturday morning." [28:10]
Graydon: "I think we hit a jackrabbit." [18:16]
Managing Intoxicated Partners
The conversation takes a humorous yet critical turn as Hallie shares her strategies for dealing with men who struggle with getting hard or finish too quickly. She describes using her own vibrator to "humble" her partners, highlighting the often one-sided efforts in maintaining sexual satisfaction.
Hallie: "Usually I'll pull out my own vibrator... until I finish." [17:22]
Graydon: "Do you think performance anxiety is a real thing?" [16:58]
Reality TV Inspirations
Both hosts express interest in reality TV, with Hallie suggesting a show based in Nantucket, highlighting the drama and vibrant social scene that could make for captivating television.
Hallie: "They're like buying Birkins. It's just, like, so much fun." [38:03]
Graydon: "We could just... The amount of drama that goes on in Nantucket, I feel like that's where everyone gets into the most fights." [38:46]
Summer Memories and Socializing
Hallie and Graydon fondly recall summers spent in the Hamptons and Nantucket, contrasting the serene coexisting vibe of Nantucket with the more chaotic Hamptons. They discuss the nostalgia for simpler social interactions free from the complications of conflict and excessive competition.
Hallie: "Nantucket always wins. I mean, I'm biased." [39:56]
Graydon: "Nobody competes on Nantucket. They just coexist." [40:28]
As the episode wraps up, Hallie and Graydon discuss their plans for attending their friend Maggie's birthday in Boston. They humorously anticipate potential mishaps and conflicts, maintaining their characteristic blend of humor and candidness.
Graydon: "We're gonna start off with some caviar and drinks in a suite at, like, a really dope hotel in Boston." [41:48]
Hallie: "We're gonna have fun." [42:18]
The episode concludes with playful banter about their upcoming social engagements, leaving listeners anticipating more unfiltered discussions in future episodes.
Hallie: "Men make things so complicated. I'm gonna drop myself too." [05:08]
Graydon: "Men are a dying breed. I know I am one." [05:15]
Hallie: "I just think that's a bunch of." [14:37]
Graydon: "Have you ever dealt with a man that can't get hard? And what do you do." [15:07]
In this candid and often humorous episode, Hallie Batchelder and Graydon Cutler shed light on the frustrations of modern dating, the pitfalls of online platforms, and the evolving dynamics between men and women in romantic pursuits. Their unfiltered dialogue offers listeners a relatable glimpse into the chaotic world of dating in the digital age.
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