Debrief with Daddy: V-Day, college years, & sibling dynamics

Summary

Podcast Summary: Extra Dirty with Hallie Batchelder Episode: Debrief with Daddy: V-Day, College Years, & Sibling Dynamics
Release Date: February 20, 2025

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Introduction: An Emergency Debrief The episode kicks off with Hallie Batchelder addressing an unexpected situation involving death threats she received after a recent incident. This sets a candid and unfiltered tone for the episode.

"Guys, I'm doing something really fucking stupid right now. We have an emergency debrief situation."
— Hallie [00:07]

Hallie and her co-host, Alex (referred to as B throughout the transcript), engage in a playful yet intense exchange, highlighting their close friendship and the chaotic energy of the show.

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Valentine's Day Shenanigans: Crashing 'Date Night with Daddy' Hallie and Alex recount their Valentine's Day experiences, particularly focusing on a party thrown by SiriusXM for their new partnership titled "Date Night with Daddy." They discuss meeting a strikingly attractive man, leading to humorous and awkward situations.

"It's time to go. And Matt's like, I'm ready. Let's go. And then he shows up and we're like, how can we not introduce Halle to this man?"
— Alex [08:46]

The duo humorously navigates the fast-paced encounter, touching upon the challenges of meeting new people and the skepticism they have towards influencers and brand deals.

"Matt and I both stared at each other when the realtor brought us in. And, like, I knew the only thing we were both thinking, aside from you being like, this is like my Hannah Montana closet, is we were both like, we're gonna hear here..."
— Alex [44:11]

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Open Relationships and Jealousy: Navigating Modern Love A significant portion of the episode delves into the concept of open relationships. Hallie and Alex debate the viability of such arrangements, expressing their personal boundaries and insecurities.

"I think there's the right level of jealousy. But I don't think I could sit in the corner and watch Matt have sex with another woman."
— Alex [04:33]

They discuss societal perceptions of open relationships and share their experiences with trust and fidelity, highlighting the complexities of maintaining healthy relationships in the modern age.

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Personal Insecurities: The Aftermath of Cheating Hallie opens up about her past experiences with cheating, revealing deep-seated insecurities and trust issues that stem from being cheated on.

"I feel like I just don't trust men. I have been cheated on, so I feel like I just don't trust men."
— Hallie [06:19]

Alex empathizes, discussing the emotional turmoil and self-blame that often accompany infidelity, and the challenges of entering new relationships after such experiences.

"Nothing makes me drier than seeing a man like post for an influencer, Uber Eats or something."
— Alex [11:17]

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College Years: From Modeling to Bottle Girls The conversation shifts to their college experiences, where both hosts share humorous and sometimes cringe-worthy stories from their younger days. Hallie recounts her encounter with a modeling agency and her brief stint as a bottle girl at a club, highlighting the surreal and sometimes inappropriate situations she faced.

"So I have to like, how did I get from, I want to be the bartender, and then I did bottle service for one night, and I wanted to cry."
— Hallie [20:08]

Alex shares her tumultuous college life, including a memorable incident involving an RA and a regrettable hookup that led to an embarrassing ambulance ride.

"He drove me down to Bijou. And I was wearing this, like, tiny, tiny little black dress and heels... and then I threw up on his floor."
— Alex [24:00]

These anecdotes provide a raw and unfiltered look into their formative years, emphasizing the chaos and unpredictability of college life.

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Social Media and Public Perception: The Ugly Side of Fame Hallie discusses a viral video from a Tory Burch event where she and her friend Paige were criticized for sitting front row. They explore the disconnect between public perception and their actual experiences at high-profile events.

"I had a fever a little bit, and I just interviewed a bunch of people... People thought that I was talking about the people on the Runway... I feel like I'm tripping on acid."
— Hallie [29:40]

Alex adds her perspective on the pressures of maintaining a flawless image on social media, highlighting the contrast between online personas and real-life behaviors.

"Everyone in line is like, she's so graceful. And I'm like, she's not with us."
— Alex [31:50]

This segment underscores the challenges of navigating fame and the often harsh judgments that come with public visibility.

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Sibling Dynamics: Bonds and Rivalries The hosts delve into their relationships with their siblings, discussing the nuances of being part of larger families. Hallie describes her interactions with her sister and brothers, emphasizing the support and love she shares with them.

"Sammy, the youngest, texts me, good morning. I love you. Have a great day."
— Hallie [37:20]

Alex mirrors this sentiment, sharing her own sibling rivalry and eventual deep bond with her sister, highlighting the complexities of familial relationships.

"We wanted to murder each other... But we sit down together and watch it, and you're like, what are you watching?"
— Alex [38:00]

They reflect on the importance of sibling relationships, despite past conflicts, and how these bonds shape their personalities and support systems.

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Rapid Fire: Personal Preferences and Fun Insights In a lighter segment, Hallie and Alex engage in a rapid-fire round, answering quick questions that reveal their personal tastes and quirky habits. Topics range from favorite TV shows and bagel shops to ideal levels of intoxication during intimate moments.

"Morning sex on weekends and night sex during the week."
— Alex [44:06]

"Favorite hoodie brand: Unwell."
— Alex [46:58]

This playful exchange adds a fun and relatable dimension to the episode, allowing listeners to connect with the hosts on a more personal level.

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Conclusion: Embracing Authenticity Amidst Chaos As the episode wraps up, Alex offers heartfelt praise to Hallie, acknowledging the challenges of running a podcast and commending Hallie's openness and authenticity.

"I really hope that through this podcast, people get to see that more of you, because you are genuinely a really nice person."
— Alex [48:16]

Hallie reciprocates the sentiment, reinforcing their strong friendship and mutual support.

"I love you."
— Hallie [49:06]

The episode concludes on a warm and positive note, emphasizing the importance of genuine connections and supporting one another through life's ups and downs.

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Notable Quotes:

• "I think there's the right level of jealousy. But I don't think I could sit in the corner and watch Matt have sex with another woman." — Alex [04:33]
• "I feel like I'm tripping on acid." — Hallie [29:40]
• "Everyone in line is like, she's so graceful. And I'm like, she's not with us." — Alex [31:50]
• "I just wanted to cry." — Hallie [20:08]
• "I have a big ego, but I've like... masking something deeper." — Hallie [07:25]

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Key Takeaways:

• Authenticity Matters: Hallie and Alex emphasize the importance of being genuine, even amidst public scrutiny and personal insecurities.
• Complex Relationships: The episode explores the intricacies of modern relationships, including open relationships and the lingering effects of past betrayals.
• Navigating Fame: They candidly discuss the challenges of maintaining a positive public image while dealing with personal chaos.
• Family Bonds: Strong emphasis is placed on the supportive and sometimes turbulent relationships with their siblings, highlighting the value of family connections.
• Humor in Chaos: Throughout the episode, humor serves as a coping mechanism, allowing the hosts to navigate and discuss heavy topics with levity.

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Conclusion: "Debrief with Daddy: V-Day, College Years, & Sibling Dynamics" offers listeners an unfiltered glimpse into Hallie Batchelder and Alex's lives. From chaotic Valentine's Day parties and tumultuous college memories to the complexities of sibling relationships and the pressures of social media fame, the episode is a rollercoaster of candid conversations, humor, and heartfelt moments. With their trademark honesty and irreverent humor, Hallie and Alex create an engaging and relatable narrative that resonates with listeners navigating similar life challenges.

Transcript

[A]

I've had guys, like, ask me to, like, send them videos of me, like, giving other people head or, like, having sex with other guys.

[B]

Have you done it?

[A]

Yeah. What up, you little fuck? Okay, guys, I'm doing something really fucking stupid right now. We have an emergency debrief situation. Hi, this is Hallie from the streets of New York. Guys, I had every intention of staying in last night after calling Daddy. They were just ripping me to absolute shreds. I was getting death threats. For what? Like, why was I getting death threats? I didn't say anything that controversial.

[B]

I'm not saying that death threats aren't, like, a serious thing to take into.

[A]

Account, but, like, I was like, wait, why me?

[B]

It's so funny to me. No, listen to what I'm saying. It's so funny to me that. That, like, people are saying those things over, like, you saying, like, my dad lets me use his credit card.

[A]

They're like, you must die, like, death to her.

[B]

Death stone. Her death to her.

[A]

Oh, my God.

[B]

Marshall. Marshall and the bunny. You guys.

[A]

Oh, my God. I'm screaming.

[B]

I need a hair of the dog yesterday. Wait, you're iconic. Thank you so much.

[A]

Wait, I love you so much.

[B]

Okay, Halle, now you kick it off.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

Your show. Hold on.

[A]

Let me just.

[B]

I'm doing zero work today. This is literally. You. Okay, cheers.

[A]

What do you want? Cheers. What do you want to talk about?

[B]

No, h. This is your show. Give me an intro.

[A]

Okay, guys, welcome back to Extra Dirty. I'm here with my boss today. I didn't know we were recording with her, but here we are. Hi, Alex.

[B]

Hi. Hi. We. I'm so happy that we're recording together because I woke up this morning, we were both violently hungover, and. And we both said, like, I think we have a lot of work to do. And Hallie said, I have to record the podcast. And I said, okay, I can come by.

[A]

Like, no, it's perfect. Let's talk about how I'm crashing your Valentine's Day and we're gonna start rumors about us being a thruffball.

[B]

Matt completely scheduled, like, a romantic dinner.

[A]

He got me flowers.

[B]

He is. Let me just fucking hype my husband up. No, he's sweet. Like, he's a sweet man. And he sent. He actually sent Lauren flowers to Chicago, and he wrote her sweet note being like, I love you so much, like, you're the best, whatever, blah, blah. And he got Halle flowers for Valentine's Day, and then he got me flowers and called me Nantucket sweetheart. Yeah, he's. That was Sweet. But I do think the rumors are going to start to pile in.

[A]

Well, especially after like, you know, like the story with Jordan and Lauren. We're going to think I like, suck everyone. Suck everyone else's spouses. Dicks.

[B]

Halle's.

[A]

My bad.

[B]

How? Halle reaches her bonuses per quarter diddles.

[A]

I sleep right between Alex and Matt.

[B]

And she gives us a little tinky winky in the hot tub. Okay, yeah, no tinky winkies. We just really do enjoy each other's company. I promise there is no. We don't have it. I have built a friendship. No. You know what I've been seeing recently? I have been seeing so many people talk about. They have open relationships.

[A]

Wait, are you trying to tell me something?

[B]

Wait, do you. Would Lauren consider herself in an open relationship?

[A]

No, I think she's just like a cuckoo. Do you know what a cuck is?

[B]

That's. That's. Yes, your cuck.

[A]

I think she's a Leo. Like, you know, like, she just like.

[B]

Are you saying Leonardo DiCaprio or Leo?

[A]

Like Leo energy. She's like. I'm so confident in myself. I just like. This doesn't bother me.

[B]

I think there's a difference between alarm. I'm so sorry. But I do think there's a difference between being a confident person.

[A]

Being a. Is insane. Do you know they do that on Nantucket? Like everyone does like the upside down pineapple thing.

[B]

Let's talk about cuckolding.

[A]

Yeah, we. Let's talk about.

[B]

Because I do think it's such an interest. Interesting.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Conversation. Would you ever, if you were in a relationship, be down to see your man be getting fudge?

[A]

I feel like it's more for the man.

[B]

No, we. So I was just on Tick Tock and there's this one girl that I think she's from like Australia and she goes and she couples or she Whatever. And there was this one couple that she went and. And the woman was requesting that she. Her husband and the woman, the wife just wanted to sit in the corner and watch and while they were having sex, wanted her husband to talk on her being like, yeah, look, like, look, I'm this bitch. Like, don't you like, blah, blah, blah. And okay, I've had guys, like ask.

[A]

Me to like, send them videos of me, like giving other people head or like having sex with other guys.

[B]

Have you done it? Yeah, I think, listen, this is like, not to be toxic, but I always find there's like a level of jealousy that is attractive and I don't want to be jealous all the time. Ever. I never feel, like, insecure with Matt, but whenever I see, like, a girl, like, looking at Matt or like, trying to be a little flirty with Matt, I'm like, oh, like, that's my guy. I want to, like, go home and him now because that's mine. But I'm not, like, seeking out being jealous. But I think there's the right level of jealousy. But I don't think I could sit in the corner and watch Matt have sex with another woman and be like, you guys good? Like, what do you think? Like, five more minutes? Like, I'm gonna. I'm gonna order the beef stew on grubhub. Like, matt, let's go home and eat dinner together. No, no, it's. I couldn't do it. I feel like you could do it.

[A]

I won't knock it.

[B]

I can't wait to see who you become in a relationship with.

[A]

Yeah, I'm like, not good in relationships, so.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

But it kind of like, like brings to light all my insecurities.

[B]

Yeah. What are the insecurities? And let's work through it right now on this.

[A]

Like, I always just think I'm, like, waiting for, like, the ball to drop.

[B]

You know, they're going to abandon you.

[A]

I think they're going to cheat. Or like, I think I'm going to cheat and then I cheat.

[B]

But that's what's so weird, is because your parents are so in love and they have, from what I understand, never had a cheating scandal. So, like, where does this come from?

[A]

Low self esteem as a child?

[B]

No, it's not funny.

[A]

I was a fat kid.

[B]

Okay, so you thought that.

[A]

So I just like, I feel like I experienced a lot of rejection when I was younger.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

And then. Oh, we're really working through this shit.

[B]

We're so hungover and we're like, no, this is what we want to talk about.

[A]

Yeah. So I just feel like in relationships and I have been cheated on, so I feel like I just don't trust men.

[B]

I will say, when you get cheated on, there is quite literally nothing more debilitating than trying to get into your next relationship and trying to convince yourself mentally that it wouldn't happen. Because no one goes into a relationship and they're like, I'm going to get cheated on. Even when you fudge with, like, a fudge boy. Like, I've dated guys that, like, on paper, I was like, of course this man is going to cheat on me. But there's no one in their right mind unless they're actually just, like, in it for money. And you're like going to date like Kanye west and you're like, I'm sure I'm in like whatever it is. But for the most part no one thinks it. So when you do get cheated on, it's so horrifying. And you're like embarrassed within yourself and you're mad at yourself and you take so much blame. So I get it.

[A]

It's like a reverse psychology though. Cuz I would always like go back to like the Che. It's like you try to figure out why they cheated and you try to like solve it.

[B]

Yes. Cuz then there's the ego involved.

[A]

Cuz the ego gets crushed.

[B]

Yeah. And I've got a big ego. You do too.

[A]

I have a big ego, but I've like. I don't know. And masks. I think it's masking something deeper.

[B]

Okay, wait. Let's talk about who Hallie's going to marry. Marry. I love how we're going to marry. Instead of date first. Actually you need to just go on like a date with a man first.

[A]

I don't date. You know this.

[B]

I know.

[A]

I. I think it's like a hobby that I just want no part of.

[B]

Are we gonna skip to the good part of you getting married if we can't even.

[A]

I literally like. I just think I'll like run into someone on the street one day or meet them. But like you have to like find a man.

[B]

I want to find you. Like. Okay.

[A]

We can't send me out with any more people over it.

[B]

I kind of feel like I'm really not hitting the mark with you with setting people up with you. Let's talk about last night. Let's keep it ambiguous.

[A]

Let's see, it's.

[B]

But let's talk about last night.

[A]

Okay. Yeah.

[B]

So last night we had a party that we threw. SiriusXM threw me a party for this new launch of our partnership. And it was called Date Night with Daddy. It was so fun, everyone. I will say, so cute. I feel like I go out all the time and I. When you're in your normal day life, like you're putting on like your cute jeans and your little top. Like I actually really enjoy that everyone dressed up last night.

[A]

It was nice.

[B]

It was like elevated cocktail. Yeah. Everyone's looking incredible. And then there's this man. Yeah. It's the last minute of the night that we're about to leave and this man shows up that is in Matt's orbit, that is so fucking stunning you don't even remember.

[A]

I couldn't see at that point. I wish I met him in the first hour of the night like you. And then Matt tries to, like, introduce me. I'm like, down again.

[B]

No, let me also clarify. I'm pulling Matt out of this club, and I'm like, it's time to go. And Matt's like, I'm ready. Let's go. And then he shows up and we're like, how can we not introduce Halle to this man? He's so attractive. I'm like, he's a movie star at this point. Like, get ready, girl. This is. And you literally go, movie star. I remember your eyes were in the back of your head and your tongue is on the side of your mouth. And when I said movie star, Halle was like, where? Push me in his direction. I was like, I physically.

[A]

I was like, that's so ravened.

[B]

You were little, like, where she could smell it. So I pushed her in that direction with her little booty shorts and her little crop top on. And all of a sudden, you guys had 30 seconds together, and I see you exchanging phone numbers. What did you say? How did we get there that fast?

[A]

I don't know. I feel like he was just like, hi. And I was like, we got to go. And then he's like, I be my Valentine. He said, be my Valentine.

[B]

That's kind of cute.

[A]

It was cute, but until, like, I haven't saved his contact yet because I'm.

[B]

Unsure his name this morning to me and sent me their conversation. And you. You really keep making it really hard.

[A]

For me to save his number.

[B]

And it wasn't even sent me an.

[A]

Otter holding a heart.

[B]

I actually kind of thought it was cute and endearing.

[A]

How old is he?

[B]

This is the thing.

[A]

Does he have an accent?

[B]

Does he have an accent?

[A]

I thought he had, like.

[B]

Oh, it's a twang Southern. Anyways, so we thought we found Hal a boy last night, but she hasn't texted him back. And I said, it's Valentine's Day tonight. You could ask him to come and do a double date. But instead, she wants to fuck my husband tonight. And we are calling the three of us to a fucking dinner. Wait. But now. So this morning, we're on our way to work, and Matt calls us because we're driving in different cars. And. And Matt was like, hallie, we need to figure out, like, what kind of guy you want. And. And we decided because of the men that you've been showing us as your LA parents, we are not letting you know. As your LA guardians, we are not Letting you date a man that takes God damn brand deals.

[A]

No. Yeah.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

We, we, yeah. An endorsement we agreed upon. That's okay.

[B]

Matt said if it's a Nike endorsement, if it's a campaign where he's on a cover of Men's Health, if he's got an endorsement for 10 + million, he did say 100 but I was like let's 10+. Let's are realistic. Let's do 5 to 10 million. We're okay with that. But a brand deal.

[A]

Yeah. Nothing makes me drier than seeing a man like post for be an influencer, uber eats or something.

[B]

I have said it many times.

[A]

No, I'm like, babe, put your phone down.

[B]

Do people do Reese brand deals?

[A]

Yeah. Rewards.

[B]

I just feel and I would love to know people in the comments.

[A]

Yep.

[B]

I married Matthew for many reasons.

[A]

You did?

[B]

Yeah, I did. But something that I am so grateful for is his earnest, genuine interest in his anonymity. Like he wants to try and stay as on the fray of the conversation but recognizes the monster he married. So he's like, I get, I have to like lightly be in it in moments. But if Matt was shoving to the front of the camera and was doing a goddamn renegade with me, I would fucking divorce his ass so fast. He' like. But do you know what I mean? The couples that have the man doing it like and I'm it, I'm. It's. I'm just saying I doesn't work for me. For me. You people in the comments.

[A]

For me, I just think it's me woman. Like male and woman fields kind of like influencing is for like the girls. It is just like only fans. Yeah. Like I just found out that like lots of guys have only fans. And like what they're just like grabbing their junk for like, like and subscribe. Like what?

[B]

It's just like who? I know. It's like if you guys are going to always objectify us women, let us at least make all the money from it.

[A]

Right.

[B]

Don't try to come into our field. No. Like let us get our coin and fudge you right off. Okay, so we're going to get you a guy we. Because can we tell the story of the guy that FaceTimed you the other night doing blow or no. The morning. Oh yeah, that's right. Or no.

[A]

I mean we can tell that story that was fudgeing Insane. He's probably going to watch this, but I don't really care.

[B]

Well, I think it is. I'm not letting you date him because he's a Fudgeing influencer so we can let it roll, bitch.

[A]

No. Yeah, he FaceTime me and it was like a Wednesday morning.

[B]

And just for context at this point, Halle is like teetering with the idea, like, would I be into this?

[A]

I thought I showed you him. I was like, this man is cute.

[B]

Adorable, like face value. He is a very good looking.

[A]

Then I looked at his following. Like, who he follows, you being one of them. And I was like, fudge.

[B]

And then you know what Matt pointed out?

[A]

No good.

[B]

When you handed Matt the phone, Matt was like, what are these? Like highlight reels? Why does he have like 19 highlight reels? And then we clicked on a Q and A and it was a centipede long of like question and answer that he was answering. And like, it is going to be. You can't do this to yourself. Like, this man is so no man.

[A]

I like his mustache.

[B]

His mustache is hot. Okay, so then, now tell them what happened.

[A]

But then like, I was like, he might be a sweet boy. And I like bunny. He like seems funny.

[B]

He's not a sweet boy. Tell them the story.

[A]

Okay, so he obviously hadn't slept yet. I didn't know that. I just woke up, it's like 10:30. He I answer the phone, he's like ripping bumps of blow and drinking like a co light. And he's like, let's go to lunch. And I'm like, wait, what? And he was like asking all these questions and he's like, I looked you up on Reddit yesterday and like asked me about like all these different things. I'm like, wait, this is not the way to connect with me. Is asking me about like posts on Reddit. We don't go on there.

[B]

No. And like nudes and like, he goes.

[A]

I was trying to find your like fake tits on Reddit. And I was like, I just woke up. I don't know you. And I don't send nudes anymore.

[B]

I know, I'm so over nudes.

[A]

Wait, who sends nudes? Especially, like when you like, do this.

[B]

Yeah, no, yeah, the gays. The gays. The gays.

[A]

You guys send news.

[B]

The gays. The girls and the gays used to send news and now it's just the gays. I swear to God. No, because the girls, it's just like, again, we're just like, our lives are just like ruined. Like, we can't even enjoy one thing for ourselves anymore. Like, people exploit us. People leak them and it's annoying.

[A]

They kind of want mine to get leaked.

[B]

I know.

[A]

Like, I think it'd be good for the brand.

[B]

I always wondered if, like, some of the videos I was taking back in the day would get leaked on my Snapchat. That was terrifying. I told you, don't even try. Cancel them all.

[A]

I told you about the time that someone hacked my Snapchat. Got past two step verification.

[B]

You gotta respect it, though.

[A]

I know they really want that.

[B]

One, two, one, two.

[A]

But, like, what I was sending to guys, they were from years ago. Like, my tits were, like, real. So I knew they were old videos.

[B]

But what did your tits look like before you got them done?

[A]

They look saggy and sad because I went on birth control. They were double Ds. And then I lost all that weight, so they just looked like a sad balloon. It kind of looks like a mochi ball that I've been sitting on the sun. You know what I mean? Picture that.

[B]

Honestly, I wish I knew you in your mochi ball era.

[A]

No, honestly, I needed fake tits. I want them to know each other.

[B]

No, you're not getting bigger.

[A]

Okay?

[B]

Do you think we've ever ran into each other in Boston when we were young?

[A]

I've seen you at capo when you had your silver fox bijou hair.

[B]

Halle loves to bring up my bottle girl days. And it is like, you're the only.

[A]

You don't talk about enough.

[B]

No, because no one cares.

[A]

I care. It's important.

[B]

No one brings up that I was a bottle girl for a hot second. And like, I.

[A]

It is amazing.

[B]

It's incredible. It's like the most interesting about.

[A]

No, it's like I bring it up every time I see you.

[B]

Dude, I loved those.

[A]

Did you. Did you ever sit, like, sit on, like, the ears? Like, they're like the waiter shoulders.

[B]

First of all, that is not a thing.

[A]

Like, second of all, that is a thing. At the Grand. What was the application process?

[B]

Okay. Do you want me to tell you?

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

So it is my sophomore. No, my. My freshman year, summer going into my sophomore year. And I am like, I'm gonna be able to afford spring break next year. And my parents were just like, horrible people. Wouldn't just cough up the cash. So I had to go pour myself out. Thanks, Mom. And so I remember I was dating this guy at the time, and he drove me down to Bijou. And I was wearing this, like, tiny, tiny little black dress and heels. And I had like 45 extensions in my head. They were silver. You're right.

[A]

You have that framed in your bathroom, by the way.

[B]

Oh, my God, the silver hair. No, that's a different era. Of silver. This was when it was, like, blue silver, and, like, I had black eyebrows and orange skin. People are gonna come be like, you still do. So I walk in and I'm like, hi. I'm like, here. I want to, like, apply for a job. And I bet there's a lot of times where girls walk in and, like, yoga pants and, like, a little hoodie asking. But I showed up because I was going out later that night with my. So I looked like I fit the fucking already. Yeah. I walked in and the brand manager brought me in, and he looked like he was a fudgeing sex offender. Like, he was giving. Like, I'm going to fudgeing pillage you and your family. I was so scared. He had tats all over him. His muscle shirt was so tight. He was freaking me out. And he was literally staring in between my crotch. And, like, when I was doing the interview, he's just looking literally at my lips. And I was like, your labia? Yes. And I was like, I just, like, really want, like, a bottle or I. No, I said I wanted to do it. Be a bartender. I was like, I want to be a bartender. I've never bartended in my life. And on the spot, he was like, done. You got the job.

[A]

He was like, go like this for two minutes. He's like, what's your upper body strength look like? Can you hold Magnum?

[B]

Take off your dress right now, and I'll give you the job. That's literally the energy he was giving because I knew that he had a wife. But all the girls talked about how he would, like, all the bottle girls and the bartenders. And I was, like, the youngest girl coming in. And I was so out of my league also, like, playing Division 1 soccer at the time. And I didn't tell any of my friends that I was doing this, but I think that they, like, expected that from me. So I immediately start. And I remember, shout out if you're ever watching this. Her name was Noel, and she was like, the it bartender. And I went behind with her, and we started, and Bijou was kind of like international club vibes. There's all these international men coming in, all the uncircumcised dicks just, like, walking around, like, looking for me to just, like, make them a drink. And I don't know how to make a drink, so I'm pouring shit left and right. I'm. It's horrible.

[A]

It's just like, orange juice and.

[B]

No, it's harder than that, first of all, because you have to do. Listen okay, you go like this.

[A]

She's getting defensive.

[B]

No, it was harder. What? Make a kamikaze shot. What is that exactly dumb. A kamikaze shot? No, when someone would be like, give me like, a whiskey sour or give me, like, a Manhattan, I would literally be like, okay. And I would be taking all these things and being like, here you go, finally. Yes. So you go like this. It usually has a bottle tip on it. And I would go, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6. Or you go, 1, 2, 3. It's a count of six or three, depending on how fast you do it. But I always went, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6. Okay. And I was fucking good at it. I started to get good at it, but then they said, you know, we want to see if you could become a bottle girl. And I was like, no, no, no, no, no. Because you're kind of like, no, wait, how did I get from. I want to be the bartender. And then I did bottle service for one night, and I wanted to cry.

[A]

Just, like, dating someone at the time.

[B]

Yeah. And he would pick me up afterwards. Can we talk about college? You? Because, like, I'm over here being like, a bartender, bottle girl, sucking and fucking.

[A]

My hair was brown.

[B]

What?

[A]

You know, I used to, like. I was signed to a modeling agency.

[B]

Oh, my God. Flex.

[A]

I mean, it was just the jankiest thing ever. Like, they would send me to, like, place. It was like a mass Modeling agency. Like, Massachusetts doesn't have many. They sent me to, like, wait, crazy story. They sent me in the middle of the woods to this, like, photographer's house. And I did this shoot, and I was there alone. I was the model. And this guy had, like, sex offender registry papers on his thing that he. And I was like, oh, my God. I called my agent and I'm like, wait, this guy's a sex offender? I still did the shoot. It was unpaid, too.

[B]

What kind of photos were you taking?

[A]

Like, in a pool, and it's like, blow up above the ground pool and for no money. Like, why did my mom let me go to that?

[B]

Wait, your mother knew about this?

[A]

Yeah, I. The sex offender papers. I, like.

[B]

He never tried to touch you?

[A]

No, but I, like, was worried, like, I had to, like, change in his janky ass bathroom.

[B]

Oh, yeah. And he definitely had camera. And I was like, he still jacks off to it to this day.

[A]

I mean, I would if I were him.

[B]

Yeah, but, like, were you in your mochi era then?

[A]

Yeah, I was my mochi, but I was also very thin. I don't know, like, there's anything jack off to at that point. That was crazy.

[B]

How incredible that we now have our thing where when we call pre tit, Holly is mochi era and no one will. Okay, wait. Tell me more about your college experience. You kind of mentioned this earlier to me, but I made you stop. Tell me about the RA incident. Tell me about the RA incident.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

You weren't an ra.

[A]

No, they hated me.

[B]

Don't you kind of feel like Ras? Oh, my God. I'm sorry.

[A]

Ras are so pick me. Like, babe. No, I don't give a clip that.

[B]

Like, why were you an RA and.

[A]

To get your band camp?

[B]

This is what I will say. I really. No, it's what I will say to anyone, just to quickly defend you for five seconds, is there were some Ras that were like, I'm getting paid and I need the money, and I get to have my own room love. And they would let everything slide. But those were, like, one in a dozen. The rest were like, alex, open your closet. Let me see what you're in there. And I'm like, I will murder your whole family, you dumb cunt. I'm just trying to have a.

[A]

No, I think it's a power trip. Like, they just want to yell at people. Yeah.

[B]

Okay, so tell me.

[A]

There was this one guy. I mean, after I'd gotten cheated on, my boyfriend at the time had cheated on me like, like, two weeks into college. He was the only guy I'd slept with, like, before I went to college. I was, like, such a goody two shoes. I, like, only had snorted Adderall. Like, it was, like, the worst thing I've ever done, you know? And then after that, I feel like my soul went dark and I just went on a rampage and just slept with everyone. I think I slept with 10 guys my freshman year.

[B]

Halle.

[A]

It was amazing.

[B]

Did you have any, like, good. Was it good or was it just like you were blackout.

[A]

I was blacked out. I don't remember. And, like, the. The time I was telling before, this guy who was, like, not hot at all. He was like, on the club soccer team or something.

[B]

Holy, that's so dark. Imagine being in college.

[A]

The only convenience. I think how it happened. Honestly, I didn't even go home with this man. I think he was just on my.

[B]

Floor.

[A]

With my caddy. I'm like, wait, I'll sleep with you.

[B]

I'm picturing. There is something. And I don't mean to be a dick, but I have never been attracted to male soccer players. I know they're the clubs Club team.

[A]

Like, not even the soccer team.

[B]

With his, like, shin guards and his, like, shorts and he's cleats.

[A]

So his cleats are universal.

[B]

No, but his cleats specifically. And his little legs. Yeah. They're like thinner than yours.

[A]

Literally.

[B]

Don't spread that.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

Wait. No. But yeah. So I like, black in. And I'm like, oh. I like, don't, like, wear this. Like, I don't, like, want to go through with this. And I was hammered. And then I just like, I. I think I got sick. I mean, obviously the memory is a little fuzzy. I got sick, so I started throwing up on his floor.

[B]

Oh.

[A]

And I was like, call the ra. Get me out of here.

[B]

And him to call the RA.

[A]

Yeah. So I had him knock on, like, the RA's door, who was also on our floor. So this all happened very quickly. And the RA came to the door and was. I was like, cursing her out.

[B]

Out.

[A]

I didn't like her. She was a.

[B]

What were you saying?

[A]

I was like, you, like, I don't need to be transported. She's like, you need to be transported. And I was like, wait. Yeah. Even though I requested her to come, she shows up.

[B]

She's like, how can I help you, Hallie? You're like, go yourself, you dumb. I don't want to talk to you. Help me.

[A]

Yeah. It's like playing along with him. So then she called an ambulance. So an ambulance, like an EMT is like. They all, like, came up to this poor kids, like, common room. Like, he had three roommates too at the time. And they took me out in a stretcher.

[B]

What?

[A]

And like, it was like a thousand dollar ambulance ride. My parents were pissed.

[B]

How did you tell your parents?

[A]

I said, I fucked this really ugly guy. Like, I was kind of kept it real with them. And I was like. And then I blacked in. And then I, like, threw up everywhere. And like, thank. Thank God. Thank God that happened.

[B]

You look at your dad as you're in the fucking hospital.

[A]

My dad knows too much.

[B]

He was so ugly. I had to get out of there. Okay. The $1,000 is nothing. My dignity needs to stay intact. The fact that you told your father that you called the ambulance.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

So you could get away from an. Ugly is so iconic.

[A]

Honestly, he respected it, period. He respects most of my decisions with men.

[B]

He does.

[A]

Yeah. But, like, is he worried? He really wants me to, like, stay single.

[B]

What?

[A]

Like, until I'm like, mid-30s.

[B]

Really.

[A]

He just is like, just keep doing what you're doing.

[B]

You know what I Want for you. And I'm gonna put this into the ethos.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

I kind of want you to be on Real Housewives of New York.

[A]

Everyone says that. No, I feel like I'm delusional and out of touch enough where it would translate well to that kind of platform.

[B]

Oh, without a doubt. Wait, let's think of your tagline right now. You've thought about this.

[A]

We did this.

[B]

You did. No. Oh, I remember your ending tag. No, no, I remember that episode. But yours. Oh, yours was sucking. What was it again? You were like, you. You miss all the shots that you don't take. Yeah. You miss all the shots that you don't take.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

I'm not sure. Bravo. What's mine? I'm not gonna be a housewife.

[A]

Okay. You want to talk about Super Bowl?

[B]

Yeah, let's talk about Super Bowl.

[A]

Super bowl was like, you know, bam.

[B]

Bam.

[A]

You crush those events, by the way. Like, I don't think it's, like, a lot of stimulating. I like. I don't.

[B]

You looked so stunning. You were looking. Every time I gave Halle a compliment, she keeps going, what's going on? What are you doing? What are you doing? I'm like, oh, my God, I'm so sorry. You're so busted. I. I try to give her compliments. I'm like, you're so stunning. And she's like, what's. What's going on? What's going on?

[A]

You're so nice today. But that's every day.

[B]

But that's a good thing to think about. That's self esteem. Take the compliment.

[A]

Yeah, well, I think taking compliments are hard.

[B]

It's so awkward. I've learned to just take it. Thanks. I know I look amazing.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

No, but listen, super bowl was a really fun time. I think we.

[A]

We didn't even watch the game.

[B]

No. Well, we did.

[A]

Well, we did not in nola. We were in nola, but we didn't.

[B]

Yeah, let's explain. So when we got to nola, it was on Thursday, and we were going for, like, the front end of super bowl weekend, and people were, like, outraged that we left before the game. I know this is, like, a controversial opinion, but, like, I would every time rather watch a Super bowl on the tv. The commercials mean something to me. Okay. And the commercials and the halftime show mean something to me. And I'm gonna be honest. I have been to Super Bowls before, and the halftime show doesn't slap when you're in person. Okay? The stage is tiny. You can barely hear them because they're doing Everything for live broadcasting and all of it is geared towards the viewer experience on television, and they don't give a fuck about the fans. So I like entertainment like that.

[A]

So I don't write. I don't want to write out zero bond.

[B]

Right.

[A]

Like, I thought that was perfect.

[B]

We had such a good time. What happen in nola? People were talking about how tall you were compared to me. I feel like you're taller than I expected.

[A]

Yeah, I feel like that's one of the first things said to me.

[B]

How tall are you? I'm five'eight and I'm 55.

[A]

Yeah, I'm taller.

[B]

So there you go. People have written in wanting to know our height difference. There you go. Okay.

[A]

But I also wear, like, really high heels all the time.

[B]

Yeah, you do.

[A]

I like to, like, make sure that any guy feels tall enough.

[B]

Interesting.

[A]

Like, if I'm in heels and they're at eye level, I feel like that's still too short.

[B]

Have you ever dated a short king?

[A]

Yes.

[B]

How short?

[A]

Like 5, 8, 5 9, 5 10.

[B]

How do you feel about that? You would do it again?

[A]

Yeah, I would. No.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

I take that back. I mean, if they were really nice, I was gonna say no.

[B]

Okay. So, Halle, let's talk about. There's so much. I feel like drama online. I've seen the videos. First of all, you are so gorgeous. And your outfit. No, here we go again. You looked so hideous and botched. Your outfit was so stunning at Tory Burch. But I obviously saw there were videos of you.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Kind of going viral. Of you and your friend Paige sitting front row. First comment, let's address. I remember seeing was, why the is this dumb cunt sitting front row?

[A]

Honestly, that was my first question, too, also.

[B]

That's not your problem. Ask Tory Burch.

[A]

Yeah. And I didn't know how to act. Like, I was kind of like, I had a fever a little bit, and I was kind of tired. And I just interviewed a bunch of people, and I thought that was fun. And it was, like, my first show where I've been, like, front row, which I thought was really cool. Why I was there, I have no idea. But the music that they were playing, like, for the people walking down the Runway, was, like, voices. And I was like, I feel like I'm tripping on acid. I did feel like that. And I was like, is this the fever? Like, I had taken Benadryl. I was like, am I high right now? I couldn't tell. And then people thought I was, like, talking about the people on the Runway that I Was perceiving them as, like, their outfits. I was like, oh, my God, I feel like I'm tripping on acid. But no, it's the music.

[B]

I just feel like no one needs to feel bad for you, but I do think it's interesting to just highlight, like. Like, there is no normal way to be, like, perceived when someone's, like, videotaping you at events like this. And I'm gonna give you a little inside scoop, everyone. Give me an inside everyone that you see hitting their mark on, like, interviews or looking good at these events. Yeah, they are being fake. And I'm not saying they're a fake. I'm literally just saying, like, everyone is so aware, like. Like, the way you're being perceived in these moments. It's so if you act like you would normally act with your friends being like, oh, my God, I'm having so much fun. Like, this is fun. People are gonna be like, she's so annoying. Like, sit down. So everyone's, like, acting cool or acting chill. And the minute someone, like, picture yourself when your friend sends you a Snapchat of yourself in the corner of the room and you didn't know you were being filmed, you look like an ogre, haggard gremlin. And you're like. Like, cut that, you dick. If my crush sees that, I will murder you. That is literally on steroids of what's happening. We're normal. That, like, we're just as weird and strange. So, like, it's hard to always be on and make sure you're like, I look perfect right now.

[A]

Yeah. I always see, like, people like, that are in, like, these settings being, like, the comments like, oh, my God, she has such good posture. Not about me, but other people. I'm like, babe, they know they're getting filmed.

[B]

Not only do they know they're getting all the time, they're literally stoned out of their mind before they go to these fashion events. And they're. They're literally like this. No. Every time I've gone to a fashion event, everyone's high. Yeah. And they're all just like, I'm literally. I have taken marijuana. I'm not saying they're on, like, meth, but I'm just saying they are high. So these are the things that I think are just funny to talk about, because everyone in line is like, she's just so graceful. And I'm like, she's not with us.

[A]

Yeah, she's. She's not with us.

[B]

No.

[A]

I was chewing gum, which I probably shouldn't have been doing. Front row.

[B]

Why?

[A]

And people were like, it's snowing. I'm like, we.

[B]

Oh, no, no, that's not the place. She's gonna take a ski trip.

[A]

Like, like, it was kind of like a Kate Moss moment. But, like, no, no, but.

[B]

No, no, no, no. But I think that's always interesting to see. The comments versus the reality of a situation is always insane. What do we say at the beginning of this episode? Oh, the hate sucks.

[A]

I hate getting heat. Groundbreaking news. I hate getting heat. It's not nice. And people are like, don't listen to it. I'm like, like.

[B]

But I want to, like, scroll on my for you page and have fun too. And then when I see a video myself, I'm like, smart.

[A]

No, literally. Do you watch them?

[B]

It depends. Like, I will watch videos of myself if I can see there's, like, a lot of engagement on it. And I'm like, oh, Nelly, what's going on? And I get, like, a little bit of, like, a rumble in my butthole. I'm like, like, what is happening? Like, no, no, no, no, no. Because I'm like, am I getting heat for something I did Did? But if there has. If I quickly see there's, like, not that much engagement, I just scroll and I just wait till I know it's, like, gonna hit my desk. Because it's, like, a problem.

[A]

I mean, a lot of it's just, like, snark. I feel like social media, like, like, bullying. Just so desensitized now. Yeah, we suck. I'm like, look at who's typing in the comment section.

[B]

Yeah, but I'm like, go ahead, punch me in the face. Yeah, like, I get it.

[A]

I would be mad, too.

[B]

I would be mad, too. And, like, I hate myself, too. Like, I've been talking on the Internet for so long, I'm like, I agree. I should shut the up up. But guess what? I'm getting paid to do this, so I'm going to keep going. Got you.

[A]

Rent's due. Okay.

[B]

Rent is due. Can I ask you a question?

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

What are you. First time you're hooking up with a guy?

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

What is your ideal level of drunk when you're having sex with a guy for the first time?

[A]

At least two and a half drinks of hard alcohol.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

But, like, I don't like to, like, black in and be like, wait, who am I on top of?

[B]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. And I. I. Yep. And I'm curious, when you're going to have sex for the first time, are you taking charge or are you hoping that they're gonna kind of like be like running the show.

[A]

Oh, no, I kind of like to run the show.

[B]

Okay, I could see that.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

What's your go?

[A]

It depends like on the age group fair.

[B]

If it's like a 45 year old.

[A]

Yeah, I don't need to run that show.

[B]

Bashing. Yeah.

[A]

Sometimes I have to teach these.

[B]

These little youngins.

[A]

The ones my age especially.

[B]

Do you have like a position? You always know that you're like, oh, here they go. They're gonna like lose their for this a blow job.

[A]

That sounded position. No, I feel like when I'm drunk.

[B]

It's good. That's a good answer.

[A]

I don't get too creative with the positions. Yeah, you don't need a. That's over stimulating too much.

[B]

What positions are you hitting? I'm curious.

[A]

It depends more. Are we talking morning neuter night?

[B]

Oh, because it does kind of change in the morning versus night.

[A]

I like the morning and the side like the spoony one. That's low effort. Anything low effort. Lazy doggies. Great on top is the only way I can really finish unless I have.

[B]

Tools with me on top. Forward facing eye contact or reverse.

[A]

I think reverse is dumb as.

[B]

Oh my. This Lauren's favorite position.

[A]

What?

[B]

Yes, I know.

[A]

Which Lauren?

[B]

Lauren, my best friend, not yours. How crazy. People always think that we have the same best friend. I'm like, no, no.

[A]

Lawrence are different, but I think that's Lauren's too. Lauren, like, I don't have back shots. Anyone wants to see can do it, but I think he will lose his heart on.

[B]

You're like, is it the coke or is it my ass? No, I'm dead. No, no, I agree. I also just think that position is just like.

[A]

I don't know, I feel like it just like I don't love it physically. It doesn't work like it would. You know what I mean?

[B]

I agree. You have to really get the right angle. And then I'm always just like annoyed.

[A]

I could see it hitting a spot. Gut.

[B]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. But I have to like, thankfully, I will say, like having a consistent partner that I have sex with, I'm capable of being like, okay, let's do this. But like, I need to set myself up so that like, we actually can like execute this in a way. Because I feel like when I would like be in like a first or second or third hookup with a guy, I would just. If it wasn't really like making me feel good or something, I'm like, okay, like we'll be in this position for a couple seconds or minutes, and then we'll switch, and you kind of don't say anything. But with Matt, if it's not working for me, I'm like, no. Like, let's switch, Switch. And I think that's, like, you talk through it. Oh, yeah. I'm like, no, switch. No, no, no. Matt literally will just, like, flip me up. This is hard, too, because he's literally people's boss in this room. So I'm literally like, okay, we're moving on. Okay, next topic. I'd love for you guys to also talk about how you both have siblings. People have commented on the show wanting to hear more about your sibling dynamics.

[A]

I feel like. I mean, I'm one of four, and I feel like, you know, that's so.

[B]

Crazy with one of four. I always forget.

[A]

And, like, we're all. My sister's 15 months older than me, very complete opposite than me. And then I have two younger brothers that I'm pretty close with as well.

[B]

How often do you speak to your siblings?

[A]

Sammy, the youngest, texts me, good morning. I love you. Have a great day. To me and all the siblings every day. Wait.

[B]

That's so sweet.

[A]

He's been doing that since last New Year's. He's such a sweet boy.

[B]

What do you think changed on New Year's?

[A]

I think that was his New Year's resolution to text all the siblings things.

[B]

That's really sweet.

[A]

Yeah, I like that. Yeah, he's like an OCD Capricorn habit maker. So, like, he just kept it as, like, a habit, I guess. But I feel like me and my sister were so different. We were younger, and, like, we, like, would have obviously, like, the sisterly fight, shared a closet, blah, blah, blah, like, all that. And she's so introverted, and I'm so not. But I feel like as you get older, you get, like, girl appreciation for, like, your differences.

[B]

Dude. I have the same thing with my sister. Like, my sister's older, but we are so different. And growing up, I. We wanted to murder each other. Like, we were. Obviously. When I say that, I think if you have a sister, you get what I'm saying? Like, you're so close, but you're also like, I cannot fight like I do with you, with anyone else in this world. And then we go downstairs, and I'm like, wait, what are you watching? And then you sit down together and you watch it, and you're after. I literally just, like, threw a lamp at your head. You just, like, ruined my entire closet. We screamed at each Other I cried. I said, I will never talk to you again. I said, when I'm 18, I'm moving out and you'll never see me again. And then Mo was like, wait, is the hills on? And she's like, yeah. And I'm like, okay, wait, wait.

[A]

What is your sister like? I forget you have one.

[B]

She's the sweetest person you'll ever meet.

[A]

That's how I say about mine.

[B]

Right? Like, my sister doesn't have a mean bone in her body. Meanwhile, we do. I can just rip a face off left and right.

[A]

But I try to keep it dial down.

[B]

Yeah. Like, I try to suppress it. I feel like in high school, like when people were mean to my friends, I was like, I. I really can ruin your life with my words.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

But my mom, there's a beautiful balance with having a sister where I actually feel like I have a lot of self reflection when I'm around her. Because we are so. We are similar in small ways that I'm like, oh, I really admire that about you. And I think like, her, she's so sweet. She's like, no one has a bad thing to say about my sister. She is more shy than me. Like I was always the louder one in the room. I feel like we have like a very similar experience with our sisters.

[A]

Me and my sister were in the same grade though, so it was a little different. We went to rival schools as well.

[B]

And that was smart by your parents putting you in different schools, though.

[A]

Yeah, they just want to like keep friend groups separate.

[B]

Well, your parents really got after it.

[A]

Yeah. My mom was like, one of you out? No, she was popping those suckers out like a pinball machine. Pow, pow, pow, pow. And think she just like wanted to get pregnancy over with.

[B]

18 month difference.

[A]

You said 15.

[B]

15.

[A]

So she was pregnant with me three months in, six months in.

[B]

That's crazy. Your mom's a warrior.

[A]

Yeah, she's also like super fertile. Like what?

[B]

Damn. So maybe you're ready to pop at any minute.

[A]

I mean, I have. You have been devices in there that won't let that happen.

[B]

You have an iud? Yeah, I feel like I can't get an iud. I'm so terrified of it. I have like this fear that mine would be the one that somehow I would like. I know this is impossible. And matt stick isn't that big, but it's like I feel like I would feel it during sex.

[A]

Some guys say they can feel it. I'm like, babe, no, he's over right now.

[B]

You're you're like, that's just my, like, uterine walls. Like, what?

[A]

No, it's like, they, like. It hurts to have it put in, though. It does suck.

[B]

And you don't go under.

[A]

Worse.

[B]

Being pregnant's worse. But, like, at least you're getting a kid out of it. Iud.

[A]

It's like, I just don't practice enough safe sex to, like, not get one.

[B]

I feel like you're the type of person that would forget to take your birth control.

[A]

Oh, yeah, I. I was. I was not on birth control for seven years.

[B]

How many times did you get pregnant?

[A]

Just once.

[B]

Okay. I have never gotten pregnant before.

[A]

The guy that got me knocked up was, like, obsessed with cream pies. And then he would venmo me for the plan B. And I. I would.

[B]

I think he would. You would say he would venmo me after sex. I'm like, so you're. No sex.

[A]

He would venmo me for plan B and I would just keep the money. I wasn't working at the time.

[B]

Dude. Plan B is so humbling, though. Wait, so you just wouldn't take the plan B?

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

But, yeah, we love our sisters. Is your sister, like, proud of what you do, or does she think you're a freak?

[A]

No, she's so proud of me.

[B]

She is.

[A]

And minus two, I think she's just, like, impressed that, like, I'm able to, like, talk, get up in the morning.

[B]

And do a job.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

You know, my sister is proud, too. Like, I think that my sister is also the one in the family. Like, she really just, like, supports me, but also I really respect her because she, I think, has a really good balance of, like, wanting to do her own thing. And I feel like my. Like, I even can. I've seen sometimes throughout call her daddy. Like, people have always speculated, like, do Alex and her sister have, like, a weird vibe? Like, why does she never talk about her? And I think, think, because my brother is a man. And, like, he doesn't get. Like, this doesn't bother. Like, nothing is affecting him. Like, being sisters growing up. Like, my sister and I have such a more communicative conversation when it comes to just, like, literally since we came out of the womb, like, this is mine, this is yours. We share this. We don't share this. You like? And even when it comes to my career, it's like, she wants to have her own identity.

[A]

Yeah. I don't film much with my sister and my mom, and, like, people think I'm, like, don't have a strong relationship with them because of that. Yeah, but I'm like, I'm respecting their want to not be on camera. And it's not for everyone.

[B]

It isn't. And it's different. Here's the shitty truth. Like, we started this episode saying hate hurts. The sad reality is women are the only people that are basically having any social commentary online. Like if you look at any of the comment sections, if you look at any of the blogs or whatever. So they just released that thing on.

[A]

Reddit, woman on woman.

[B]

All women. Women. It's all women going after women. And unfortunately, we both know that if I talk about my brother or you have your brothers on the show, people are not going to give them the amount of hate that our sisters would get or that they would come for them. And like, I am protective of my family and it's not lost on me that like my brother could sit here and say something and my sister could say the same exact thing that came out of my brother's mouth. And you would crucify my sister and try to find her fucking employer and you wouldn't give a shit that my brother said it. So it's like, I'm also protective of my family. And I'm like you, I'm going to protect my sister, but I'm going to let my give my brother to the wolves every day. You Grant love you, Catherine. Do you want to do rapid fire now? Okay, hit me with rapid fire. Are you answering two or just me?

[A]

I'm going to just ask you these.

[B]

Okay. And then you have to answer too. But ask me first.

[A]

Morning sex or night sex?

[B]

It depends. The time of week or if you're hungover. Yeah, I would say, but weirdly, I get horny when I'm hungover.

[A]

I do too.

[B]

And I would.

[A]

I feel like that's universal.

[B]

I would say morning sex on weekends and night sex during the week.

[A]

How many days a week are you having sex with your husband? I want to know.

[B]

You came up to my bedroom earlier and you were like, have you had sex here? Have you had sex here? I'm like, halle. And then you walk in, she goes.

[A]

I've had sex in my closet. I go, that's some rich people shit. Her beautiful.

[B]

I remember when Matt and I bought the house and the woman that owned the house house had this like, just like amazing closet that's like half the reason I wanted to buy the house. But she has this like bench that's directly in front of my full length mirror. And I remember when we were buying the house, Matt and I both Stared at each other when the realtor brought us in. And, like, I knew the only thing we and I were both thinking, aside from you being like, this is like my Hannah Montana closet, is we were both like, we're gonna here, and you're directly in front. And, like, Matt can put his, like, knee up on the bench and have his other leg, like, standing, and then I'm on the bench, and then we're staring at the mirror.

[A]

Top mirror. I love that.

[B]

Yeah. Okay.

[A]

Period. Current Tick tock obsession.

[B]

I watch dogs getting fostered. It's.

[A]

I was gonna say Astrovino. Do you know who that is?

[B]

No, but your face just went like this. Oh, my God.

[A]

Dog's getting.

[B]

It's like the dogs that are found that look like.

[A]

Like a bush, like, in the arms. The angle.

[B]

Yeah, the ankles. And they shave them off. And then, like, they come to life. And, like, I tell Matt, like, I liter want to start a foster dog, like, farm somewhere that I can, like, bring all these dogs and I want Henry and Bruce to visit them.

[A]

Sex playlist or silence.

[B]

I don't prefer full silence. Although Matt and I usually put the fireplace on when we're having sex. Yeah, we hear the crinkling. But I also usually there's, like, TV on that we were watching prior to sex. But I'm not putting on music. Like, no, I'd rather put on porn than music. Weird. Like, that's.

[A]

Wait, you put on porn?

[B]

I've. Yeah.

[A]

Wait, that's fun. I do that too.

[B]

But we usually only do it when we're on, like, a vacation. Like, I feel like surround sound. No, we put it like the tv.

[A]

What kind of porn do you watch?

[B]

Depends. We'll get into that next episode. We're on rapid fire.

[A]

Favorite unwall flavor.

[B]

I would say the new flavor is kiwi pineapple, because I like mixing it with alcohol. And I probably drink four times a week.

[A]

Perfect. Favorite B shop.

[B]

I mix it and you can do vodka or tequila.

[A]

Love that.

[B]

It's good.

[A]

No, it is good with alcohol, right?

[B]

Yeah, that one. I drink it. Yes, yes, period. Hydrate while you're getting unhydrated.

[A]

Yeah, exactly. Favorite bagel shop.

[B]

It's you.

[A]

Leon's Bagels.

[B]

I. She asked me this the other day. She goes, what's your favorite bagel shop? I said, oh, I feel like in Leon's in New York. She said, what about you? She goes, I don't have a favorite bagel shop. I don't eat bagels.

[A]

It's just like, they, like, kind of make my mouth dry.

[B]

Shut up.

[A]

Okay. Favorite TV show right now.

[B]

Ooh, Tell Me Lies. I just can't get over it.

[A]

Really? I haven't seen the new season yet.

[B]

It's so good. I just. It just brings me back to college. I just feel like that was literally my life.

[A]

Like, toxic relationships.

[B]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, that was me written all it.

[A]

Favorite hoodie brand.

[B]

Unwell.

[A]

That's a good answer. Product placement.

[B]

Plug. Plug. Plug.

[A]

Favorite cuss word.

[B]

I mean, it's, like, actually crazy how many times I use the word. And I know it annoys people, but, like, I. It's, like, in my vocabulary. It's at the top of the list.

[A]

Marshall, these questions are hilarious.

[B]

They are.

[A]

Like, what? Like, if you. If you had to get another man's name tattooed on you, not Matt, whose name would you choose?

[B]

Henry. Henry.

[A]

Oh, that's a good answer. Henry, have you ever fixed an emergency to leave a bad date?

[B]

Absolutely. I remember being in New York City, and my sister. There was, like, a blackout somewhat during, like, in New York City, and I told the guy that my sister was stuck in the subway, and I had to go.

[A]

Wait, that's insane. How'd you even come up with that?

[B]

I forgot it. I forgot what came over me. I had one drink. We were at this. What were we eating? We were eating, like, random, like, Vietnamese food. I just remember it so vividly. I don't find a way.

[A]

Why? Was it a bad day?

[B]

It was so. He was so. Such a tool. And he was talking, talking, and I couldn't get rid of him. And finally I was like, oh, my God, I just got it. You know the subways are down, right? And he was like, yeah. And I was like, my sister stuck on the tracks.

[A]

That isn't.

[B]

And I got up and I left. That was weird.

[A]

I love it. Should we wrap up?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

I don't like the outro.

[B]

I'll do an outro. Do it. Yeah. Okay, let me just say something. I am.

[A]

Wait, one more time.

[B]

One more time. I am so proud of you. I think that when you start a podcast. I get it. Everyone online, you think this is easy. I totally, totally disagree. But I have to say that. But you've been doing such an incredible job, and I think that your life is so interesting, and I do really appreciate you being more open with everyone, because as much as you are this crazy that I do love.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Spending time with you at my house and getting to know you more, I'm gonna keep it. You are such a real. And I really hope that through this podcast, people get to see that more of you, because you are genuinely a really nice person, and you're so funny, and you are just a great person to be around. So as much as we get extra dirty here, just know, like, Halle is a real one and she's a great friend. So I love you.

[A]

I love you.

[B]

Love you.

[A]

Thank you for doing this with me.

[B]

Oh, my God, of course. Now let's go to my next recording. Let's do a war hog over here. Let's go to the next. To the next. No, just kidding. That was fun.

[A]

It was fun.

[B]

Let's do that again sometime, okay?