Hallie (2:08)

I know. It's always like drinking or drunk. It's always so chaotic at those events. Seriously, we've never had a time to like, just sit down and like, get to know one another.

Kendall Vertez (2:16)

No.

Hallie (2:16)

And now we're in the chairs. We're gonna get code in the hot seat. You're in the hot. So tell me, like, where are you from? Like, we like let's go down to the basics. Like, where did you grow up?

Kendall Vertez (2:27)

So I was born and raised in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania.

Hallie (2:29)

Okay.

Kendall Vertez (2:29)

Nothing exciting. Then we shot a few seasons of Dance Moms in California. So I lived out there for like four years with my mom. Then I came back home, tried to be. Tried to be a normal person, go to high school, meet new friends, have a life.

Hallie (2:45)

Okay.

Kendall Vertez (2:45)

Then my mom was like, you need to go to college. And at first I really fought her on it. I'm like, no, I'm not going to college. Like, I'm gonna move out to LA and be an influe influencer. Which wasn't really popular at the time.

Hallie (2:54)

Yeah.

Kendall Vertez (2:55)

And she was like, no, no, you're gonna get a degree and then you can do whatever you want. So then I went to James Madison University in Virginia. Then I moved back home.

Hallie (3:04)

What was your major?

Kendall Vertez (3:06)

Political science and pre law.

Hallie (3:08)

Okay. Wow. So you're like, what am I gonna do with this? Like, did. Was there anything else that you wanted to do or did you want to do something with that major?

Kendall Vertez (3:15)

I mean, no, it was. Honestly, I didn't want to go to college. That's the thing. Like, that's the main thing. I didn't want to go to college. So when it got came to the time to even find a college, find a major, I was like, I don't know. So my parents were like, well, why don't you study politics? Like, you're two hours from D.C. if you want to do something in politics, it's right there. Also, politics is, like, integrated in everything nowadays. So I wanted to push myself because it would make sense if I did marketing. Like, let's just be real. I've been marketing. We've been marketing ourselves for years.

Hallie (3:45)

You're like an OG influence.

Kendall Vertez (3:46)

So I feel like I would have been really good at that major, but I was like, I want to learn something new.

Hallie (3:51)

Yeah, I mean, political science, that's. I mean, I took a couple of those classes in college because I went to a liberal arts school.

Kendall Vertez (3:57)

So, like, wait, where did you go?

Hallie (3:58)

I went to Union College in upstate.

Kendall Vertez (4:00)

No way.

Hallie (4:00)

Yeah. So it's fun.

Kendall Vertez (4:02)

I never knew that.

Hallie (4:02)

Yeah. It's like a very small school.

Kendall Vertez (4:04)

Yeah.

Hallie (4:05)

And you take classes like that to, like, you know, test out the waters, literally everything. And I remember taking a poli sci class and I was like, it's awful. Holy hell. I don't know what's going on.

Kendall Vertez (4:15)

No, I know.

Hallie (4:16)

And then I took a bunch of history classes and I was like, I still don't Know, like, this is too much for me. It's like a lot of memorizing.

Kendall Vertez (4:22)

It's a lot of memorizing. And for finals or even like exams or grades, it's all just writing papers. Like, I never had like a, A multiple choice exam. It was always you come in and you write like seven essays.

Hallie (4:34)

Yeah.

Kendall Vertez (4:34)

And that's that. So you also have to be a really good writer to be in political science. Yeah, I. I barely graduated. I'm gonna say I barely. Like, did you have ChatGPT?

Hallie (4:43)

When you're in college, you're like that age.

Kendall Vertez (4:44)

We had chat. We. I found out about CHAT my sophomore year.

Hallie (4:48)

Oh, my God. You have a nickname for it? Chat.

Kendall Vertez (4:50)

I just call it Chat.

Hallie (4:52)

I have to say the full person last name.

Kendall Vertez (4:54)

A lot of the professors got really smart with it and started using tools to like, detect chat gbt. And like, that's one of the reasons why.

Hallie (5:03)

Have you seen any of those tick tocks where like, the professors are like, crashing out in front of the whole class?

Kendall Vertez (5:07)

Wait, yeah. And I can't tell if that's real or not.

Hallie (5:10)

AI, stop.

Kendall Vertez (5:12)

But like, okay, I see it from both sides. Like, those are gonna be our future doctors using chat gbt.

Hallie (5:17)

I know, but like, our future doctors just know to like, press play in a robot probably. That's.

Kendall Vertez (5:21)

That's the other thing. We don't even doctors anymore. It's literally robots doing surgeries.

Hallie (5:26)

Like, AI is going to take over a lot of jobs. This is not what this show is about.

Kendall Vertez (5:32)

I would have AI do my boobs.

Hallie (5:34)

No, Like, AI probably could do your tits, like, if they really wanted to. It's going to like, replace a bunch of jobs. Also, her hair, like, takes up a lot of water. This is not what the show is about.

Kendall Vertez (5:42)

Wait, yeah, it is. But anyways, next question.

Hallie (5:45)

But yeah, okay. So you started. You were on Dance Moms.

Kendall Vertez (5:49)

Yep.

Hallie (5:50)

So how old were you when you started that? Eight. Eight, okay. And you were just like, thrown into it. How did you even, like, audition for something like that?

Kendall Vertez (5:56)

I was at a studio dancing. We were pretty well known. We won a lot. I still to this day don't know how they really found my mom and I, but they reached out to my mom and said, hey, we have an open spot on this team. Would you mind, like, sending in a few tapes of your daughter dancing? A little home audition tape, just introducing yourselves. We sent that in and then we met with Abby, our dance teacher. She was like, I want you to be a part of our team. You obviously are going to be in some weird situations, like, you just need to be able to handle that. We auditioned and then we signed a contract for, like, seven years.

Hallie (6:32)

So you were there from the age of eight to, like, 14, 15. Okay. Wow. So those are, like, very formative years.

Kendall Vertez (6:38)

Very formative year.

Hallie (6:39)

And did the show, like, blow up after the first season, like, right away and you were just, like, kind of thrown into it, or did it kind of take a while for it to, like, pick up speed a bit?

Kendall Vertez (6:47)

I remember watching the first season. I remember this so vividly. I'm like, I was sitting with my best friend who was also my dance partner. I'm like, I would never be on the show because it was so traumatizing for those little girls. And, like, I was the same age as them. And knowing that they went through that, I'm not kidding you. Two months later, we got the call of, like, hey, would you want to be on the show? But it wasn't really popular. It was taking place in Pittsburgh. Not a popular city at all.

Hallie (7:10)

No.

Kendall Vertez (7:10)

Nobody knew of us beforehand. We didn't have social media. We weren't on Tick Tock. Like, they kind of just, like, put it out there and wanted to see how it would do. I want to say, like, season two, season three is really when it took off, which is great because that's what I enjoy.

Hallie (7:25)

You're like, I'm actually the reason. Was it weird? Like, were you going to school during this time? Like, Like a normal.

Kendall Vertez (7:33)

Like, we tried to, but.

Hallie (7:34)

And then you couldn't do it, I think.

Kendall Vertez (7:37)

How old are you? What grade are you in when you're eight?

Hallie (7:40)

Like, is that third grade? Third or fourth or fifth?

Kendall Vertez (7:42)

Wait, guys, wait.

Hallie (7:43)

No.

Kendall Vertez (7:45)

Anyways, I would. I really tried to go to school. Like, my mom was like, if there's one thing I'm gonna stick up for you for, it's gonna be school. Like, they can't. They can't mess around with that. I eventually had to get pulled out at, like, noon every day because of filming purposes. And this is kind of T K plus 8. Have you ever heard of that show?

Hallie (8:02)

Oh, yeah.

Kendall Vertez (8:03)

That crazy is the whole reason child labor laws are even a thing. When she came out with child labor laws, we were like, wait a second. If your kids can't work 12 hour days, our kids can't work 12 hour days. And so she really saved us all of our educate. Like, the education took a full 180. They actually let us do school for more than an hour a day. They let us take an hour lunch break. Like, we would Literally eat in, like, a closet for 15 minutes and then go back.

Hallie (8:28)

What?

Kendall Vertez (8:28)

It's like the child labor laws actually saved our mental health and, like, physical health tremendously. But that also took place in, like, season three or four.

Hallie (8:38)

What was like a full day. What did it look like from start to finish?

Kendall Vertez (8:42)

I mean, we would get to the studio I guess around like, 11 or 12. They would prep each mom individually and be like, hey, this is what you need to do today. This is who you need to talk to to stir the pot. Blah, blah, blah, blah.

Hallie (8:54)

They would force you to stir the pot.

Kendall Vertez (8:56)

I mean, it's a. It's a reality. Yeah. Like, that's what people need to understand. You would be so I'd be like.

Hallie (9:02)

Hey, in the corner. You're. No, literally, okay, do your splits.

Kendall Vertez (9:09)

I honestly hope you're a dance on one day. You would be so here.

Hallie (9:12)

No, like, goals.

Kendall Vertez (9:14)

I mean, we were eights. Like, there's really nothing you can make us do. We were already terrified to even be there, let alone, like, yeah, have to do it on camera. We would be at the studio from, like, 12 to 5 on camera. And then at 5 o', clock, her real studio would open where, like, other students actually come to take classes. And then we would take classes from, like, five to 10. And we couldn't go home, like, after a whole day of filming, if we went home, like, she would berate you on National.

Hallie (9:40)

Was she actually as insane as she's portrayed on tv?

Kendall Vertez (9:46)

I. A lot of us say that they actually made her look really nice on tv. Compared to what actually went down, that is, which, like, people don't believe because she still looked crazy. But, yeah, they really hit her worst moments.

Hallie (9:57)

Oh, wow. Yeah, like, she could have gotten some.

Kendall Vertez (9:59)

It's just like, the show got so popular. She got so popular. She started making a lot of money. It went all to her head and, like, she just thought she was untouchable.

Hallie (10:09)

So you were thrown into, like, this whole crazy scene at such a young age. How did that, like, affect, like, your relationships? Like, what was your first boy like? Were you able, like, do you have, like, time to date? Like, I mean, or did those 13 not overlap?

Kendall Vertez (10:24)

Not really. Not yet.

Hallie (10:26)

So, like, between the ages of 14, when you were done with the show.

Kendall Vertez (10:30)

Yeah.

Hallie (10:31)

And you're a senior in high school, so what, 18? Yeah, I should. That I should know that. But what do those years look like? Because you're famous now.

Kendall Vertez (10:39)

I mean, so I went back home and, like, my sisters went to the high school that I went to. So everybody Kind of knew of me and like, what I just did. It was really hard making friends. Like, I didn't know who wanted to be my friend for the right reasons or like, if they just wanted the clout. I was literally just there to go to Friday night football games, go to homecoming, like, have a house party. I literally just needed to be a normal person. And I will say, like, I was really crazy. Like, boy crazy.

Hallie (11:06)

Yeah.

Kendall Vertez (11:06)

Because I never was around boys. I was around dancers and I was around the producers who were all gay. And, like, we were traveling every single week. I didn't go to school, I didn't have any interaction. Yeah, my crush was Cameron Dallas. And like, I would literally post like, edits of us on my Instagram pretending like we were dating. Like, that's how we'd like. That was like, embarrassing.

Hallie (11:29)

That was like kind of the similar situation with me. I was extremely boy crazy in college because I went to an all girls Catholic school for eight years.

Kendall Vertez (11:35)

It's like it's a canon event. It's seriously, it's a canon cage in a wild animal.

Hallie (11:39)

Literally getting them out into the wild.

Kendall Vertez (11:42)

And look at us. We're just semi normal.

Hallie (11:44)

Yeah, we're just semi normal now. So you, like, so was your first boyfriend, like, you were like, what senior in high school? Like, what was your first heartbreak? Paint the picture for me.

Kendall Vertez (11:54)

I think my first true heartbreak. Do you ever. Do you remember the guy who went famous for dancing to Justin Bieber in the locker room? He was like, labeled as number seven.

Hallie (12:02)

Wait, I'm screaming, you dated him.

Kendall Vertez (12:04)

So my friends were like, wait, this would be kind of funny. Like, DM him and just like, see if he answers. So I DM'd him and we literally started dating. But he's from Michigan, so I would drive to Michigan to see him. He was a football player. Like, he was famous on TikTok. I'm like, this is great. We started dating. And then I'm like, wait, I don't know if I want a boyfriend right now. Like, I kind of rushed into this. Senior prom comes up, it's over Mother's Day. He's like, hey, I don't think I can make it to your prom. I'm like, okay, that's fine. I'll just go with my gay best friend the night before. I'm like, getting my hair done, I'm getting my nails done, I'm getting my eyelashes done. Like, I have a huge busy day the week before prom. I'm like, I just, like, don't know if I want to be in a relationship. But we haven't really talked about it. And I get home from all of my appointments. My mom's like, oh, you have a package upstairs. Like, go upstairs and get it. And I'm just so annoyed because I'm gonna break up with him. And, like, I'm stressed.

Hallie (12:53)

Yeah.

Kendall Vertez (12:53)

Because it's prom. The next day, she's like, go upstairs, like, you have a package waiting for you. I go upstairs, he's in my bedroom. He literally drove to Pennsylvania to surprise me. Meanwhile, I texted him an hour ago, being like, we need to talk. And he got the text while he was in the car. It was so awkward. And my awkward ass invited all my friends over that night. Because I'm like, I can't be alone with this man. Like, can my friends come over?

Hallie (13:17)

Oh, no.

Kendall Vertez (13:18)

Prom was the next day. He slept over, obviously, because it's like a five hour drive. He slept in, like, my sister's room. Oh, I wake up, he's gone. He's gone. Didn't even say goodbye. Like, that was it. Then I would get Venmo requests from him, being like, can you pay me for, like, mental health?

Hallie (13:35)

For therapy?

Kendall Vertez (13:37)

It was. And I felt so bad because he broke his heart. I. I really did break. Break his heart.

Hallie (13:42)

You're 22. Okay, so I'm ancient compared to you.

Kendall Vertez (13:46)

How old are you?

Hallie (13:47)

I'm 25.

Kendall Vertez (13:48)

28.

Hallie (13:49)

28 down.

Kendall Vertez (13:52)

You're not.

Hallie (13:53)

I was born in 97.

Kendall Vertez (13:54)

Wow. Really?

Hallie (13:55)

I mean, don't say it like that.

Kendall Vertez (13:57)

No, I really thought you were, like, 25, 26. I mean, I get to say after.

Hallie (14:00)

A certain age, I feel like, what's the difference between, like, 28 and 25?

Kendall Vertez (14:05)

No, literally.

Hallie (14:06)

I mean, that's my. The propaganda I'm spreading, at least just being like, what's.

Kendall Vertez (14:10)

No, I feel like I see that. Are you excited for your 30s?

Hallie (14:13)

Yes, I am.

Kendall Vertez (14:15)

I keep hearing a lot more people say, like, yeah, your 20s are fun, but, like, your 30s are.

Hallie (14:20)

I think I'll be, like, my best peak looks my, like, when I hit the age of 30. Because you have, like, your makeup figured out. You have your style figured.

Kendall Vertez (14:28)

Okay, I can see that.

Hallie (14:29)

You have, like, kind of your life more figured out. Yeah, you probably think I'm 25 because I literally act and go out like.

Kendall Vertez (14:36)

One, but, like, that's how everybody is. I feel like nowadays, like, nobody cares anymore. Like, nobody's trying to act like something they're not. Like, like, you're just yourself.

Hallie (14:43)

Well, what was college like? Did you like to go to Frat parties. Like, what was that experience for you? I want to hear like your whole lore in college.

Kendall Vertez (14:50)

Yeah, college was very eye opening for me as well. My best friends went to Penn State. Have you ever been to Penn State?

Hallie (14:56)

Yes.

Kendall Vertez (14:57)

So you know what Penn State, like, you don't. You go one person, you come back a completely different person. I will say that. But my college experience, I was really excited to just meet new friends. I went to a college, I didn't know a single person. I'm like, clean slate, I'm gonna start fresh. Four hours from home. Like, it's the perfect distance. And I ended up joining the dance team, which was really awesome because then that was like kind of like a sorority to me. I didn't join a sorority because I also didn't really want to be in that vibe. But the dance team, they were like a built in family. I had amazing roommates and frat parties. We're a big frat school, we're not a big bar school, which is the only thing I wish was different. But yeah, I learned a lot about myself. I learned how to be independent for once. And also that's kind of when like my influencing really took off. So I was traveling a lot and it was a lot to balance academics, life, social life, dance, and work. Like, it taught me how to prioritize my time, how to be smart about, like, how much time I give. What. So.

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Kendall Vertez (18:46)

Yeah. Not a lot of traveling, obviously, because. Yeah, my closest airport was two hours from my college, so, like, it was really difficult for me to travel. And with dance team, I had practice every day in a game every weekend.

Hallie (18:56)

Okay.

Kendall Vertez (18:56)

So now that I'm out of college, I'm everywhere.

Hallie (19:01)

I know. It's like, I. I feel like I'm never in the same place. Same place. Like, why do I even have an apartment here? It's basically just a closet.

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Kendall Vertez (19:07)

That's literally. I say. I can't even say I'm from Pittsburgh because I don't live there.

Hallie (19:10)

Where do you live right now? Pittsburgh. Okay. With your parents?

Kendall Vertez (19:13)

With my parents.

Hallie (19:14)

Okay. Do you have plans to move anywhere?

Kendall Vertez (19:16)

That's, like, literally as we speak, what I'm figuring out. I.

Hallie (19:19)

Well, what are you leaning towards?

Kendall Vertez (19:21)

There's, like, three places. I love Boston. I love the East Coast. I love being. Yes, I love the East Coast. I went to the Unwell game or the Red Sox game. It was the first time I was ever in Boston, though. I absolutely fell in love with it. And I'm not a city person. Like, I need to be able to get into my car and go on a joyride if I'm, like, getting canceled.

Hallie (19:40)

Yeah.

Kendall Vertez (19:41)

So Boston was definitely a top contender. And then Arizona, which I know is west coast, but I have a sister that lives There. A lot of my girlfriends live there, so I have family and friends. So, like, I wouldn't feel out of pocket if I went there.

Hallie (19:53)

Arizona?

Kendall Vertez (19:54)

Yeah, Like Phoenix. Scottsdale.

Hallie (19:56)

Scottsdale's really fun.

Kendall Vertez (19:57)

I could see you in Scottsdale.

Hallie (19:59)

I mean, I went once with this really old guy a couple years ago and it was a time and a half. They great Nobu there.

Kendall Vertez (20:06)

They have a great, like, social scene there.

Hallie (20:09)

It's like a party.

Kendall Vertez (20:10)

It really is. It never stops.

Hallie (20:12)

Yeah, I didn't know that. I thought it was like all like, golf courses.

Kendall Vertez (20:15)

You would think it's very, like pristine. Like some parts are very. Like there's a lot of money. But it's so fun being surrounded by that. Like, I love going to dinner and it's like old men sitting with four, like 20 year olds.

Hallie (20:26)

That was probably me. That was probably me.

Kendall Vertez (20:29)

And that, like, that's so normal there too. Like, it's not frowned upon at all. If anything, if you're not doing that, you're weird. Like, get out.

Hallie (20:35)

Yeah. I felt like this is where I could live, honestly. Maybe I'll move to Scottsdale. We can be right.

Kendall Vertez (20:40)

I'm thinking about doing it for at least a year. I mean, I'm 22. Like, I know you could bounce around. Yeah, I kind of want to bounce around. I also thought Dallas, Texas, for the Dallas Cowboy cheerleaders, but I don't know.

Hallie (20:51)

So that's. Those places. None of them were going to be. What I thought you were going to say.

Kendall Vertez (20:55)

Wait, what did you think?

Hallie (20:56)

I thought you were going to either say Miami, New York or la, which would be like. I feel like a clear answer for someone in this.

Kendall Vertez (21:02)

I feel like that's a cliche. Yeah.

Hallie (21:03)

Yeah, cliche.

Kendall Vertez (21:04)

I like California only to visit. I could never live there again. I love. I hate Florida. Anything that involves Florida, I hate Florida. I don't know why I hate Florida.

Hallie (21:13)

I mean, I just couldn't live there because I would.

Kendall Vertez (21:15)

It's so humid.

Hallie (21:16)

Get liver failure or something.

Kendall Vertez (21:17)

Oh.

Hallie (21:18)

Or that I associate warm weather with, like, partying.

Kendall Vertez (21:21)

Oh, yeah.

Hallie (21:22)

So like, you know, you go on vacation.

Kendall Vertez (21:23)

Yeah.

Hallie (21:24)

But you're like. And then it's like you. I can't.

Kendall Vertez (21:26)

You don't get anything done.

Hallie (21:27)

No.

Kendall Vertez (21:28)

And then. Wait, what's that? Oh, did you say New York?

Hallie (21:31)

Yeah.

Kendall Vertez (21:31)

I love the city, but not this city. I just like. Yeah, it's too congested.

Hallie (21:36)

Over stimulating.

Kendall Vertez (21:36)

I'm such a homebody. I need to be able to like, like, touch grass every day.

Hallie (21:40)

And you need a car.

Kendall Vertez (21:42)

I need a car. That's it. And I can move in together.

Hallie (21:45)

No, Graydon won't move here.

Kendall Vertez (21:47)

He's like that because he needs to.

Hallie (21:49)

Be able to drive in his car, listen to music. Kim Petras, Nicki Minaj and just like going a little joyride.

Kendall Vertez (21:57)

He would love Kim Petras.

Hallie (21:58)

It's his. Her, like, she's like his favorite artist ever. It's amazing. What is your family think about what you do now?

Kendall Vertez (22:06)

They honestly, I love asking, like, I love talking about this around my dad because he's so proud of me. Like, he's a girl. Dad. I have all sisters and are you one of three? I'm the youngest of three, yeah.

Hallie (22:17)

Oh, nice. Okay.

Kendall Vertez (22:17)

Everybody always thinks I'm an only child, but just because I'm the coolest.

Hallie (22:21)

Yeah.

Kendall Vertez (22:22)

Sisters are in the shadows. I'm kidding. My dad, he's like, I'm just so proud of you for everything that you've built. You are so mature. Like, it's so cool watching you do all these things and meeting all these people. You have a great connection. They support it a lot also, because I can support myself. Like, they don't have to support me with money.

Hallie (22:43)

Thank God.

Kendall Vertez (22:44)

Yeah, I know.

Hallie (22:44)

Literally rushing it, girl.

Kendall Vertez (22:46)

Literally. He's like, thank God the last child can actually afford herself and I don't have to pay for it. But it also fell into my lap. Like, I started Instagram when I was like 10 during Dance Moms. Then after Dance Moms, we all grew big followings and then influencing and social media, like, really started to take off. And I'm like, okay, I'll emphasize on that.

Hallie (23:04)

And you work your ass off.

Kendall Vertez (23:06)

I think we all do. Yeah, I think we can all sing.

Hallie (23:08)

We can all say, I mean, I'm not dancing and stuff like that. I wasn't doing that at the age of. I was doing karate yet.

Kendall Vertez (23:14)

What? Wait.

Hallie (23:15)

Actually, I was one of those. Pick me. That was like, couldn't. I was like a deer on ice.

Kendall Vertez (23:20)

I kind of like that karate.

Hallie (23:22)

But I went to an all girls Catholic school where you had to play a sport every season. So I was like the field hockey goalie because I couldn't play on the field. And I was the ice hockey goalie because I couldn't play on the field. And then I was a little cross goalie because I couldn't play on the field. So I constantly had balls being thrown at me. And I got to college and basically the same thing.

Kendall Vertez (23:44)

Wait, that is so funny.

Hallie (23:46)

That's my life.

Kendall Vertez (23:48)

You are a goalie final boss.

Hallie (23:50)

Like, you know, like, imagine Me in like all the goalie gear.

Kendall Vertez (23:53)

Yeah. It's probably swallowed you whole. Yeah, that is big.

Hallie (23:57)

There was like these D1 athlete slang and ballsy were basically going through me.

Kendall Vertez (24:02)

When did you start social media?

Hallie (24:03)

I started when I actually remember, like, loving.

Kendall Vertez (24:08)

Like, I loved when you would sit down.

Hallie (24:10)

I.

Kendall Vertez (24:11)

And you did your martinis.

Hallie (24:12)

Yeah. I had to kind of switch it up because people, like, were coming out my throat for that. But I used to just like chug nips. I don't know if you ever saw that era of mine.

Kendall Vertez (24:20)

Was that like, really early on when.

Hallie (24:21)

You first really, like 2022? Yeah, I would just like, like down a nip and have no reaction.

Kendall Vertez (24:27)

I was going to say you wouldn't even speak sometimes. You literally would sit down, not say a single word. Drink your drink. And then the video was over.

Hallie (24:33)

Yeah. And it would be like 7 million views.

Kendall Vertez (24:35)

And I was going to say, and people ate that up.

Hallie (24:37)

You're like, you're so sick.

Kendall Vertez (24:38)

And I was like, thanks.

Hallie (24:41)

I need to like, figure out what else to do on this app. But yeah, I basically started. So I never had, like, a real job, was never a corporate baddie, just kind of hostessed it in the summer. And then I was like, I need to move to New York. So I was like, signed with the modeling agency.

Kendall Vertez (24:55)

Wait, I didn't know that.

Hallie (24:56)

Yeah. EMG models.

Kendall Vertez (24:57)

That's great.

Hallie (24:58)

But then I had the eyelashes and I was injecting so much filler in my face, it just like didn't work out. And I was like, they're like, either dissolve the filler or you can continue to model. And I was like, I choose filler. Filler.

Kendall Vertez (25:11)

I actually love that for you.

Hallie (25:13)

I was like, it just suits my personality in this era. I am in life.

Kendall Vertez (25:16)

So you like, feel your most self. Like, yeah, obviously you want to feel your most self.

Hallie (25:20)

At one point in time, I really wanted to look like a yassified blow up doll. Like, my lips were so big.

Kendall Vertez (25:25)

Do you have filler now in your lips?

Hallie (25:27)

No, I dissolved most of it.

Kendall Vertez (25:28)

Wait, what? Yeah, your lips are naturally that big.

Hallie (25:31)

Well, because when you put so much.

Kendall Vertez (25:33)

Into it, they like expanse.

Hallie (25:34)

Yeah. Like, makes the surface area bigger. So they're bigger than what they used to be, but they're. You can see. I'll show you pictures.

Kendall Vertez (25:41)

I have terrible filler migration too. I actually. People would come after me for my filler and I'm like, it could be a lot worse. Like, I could actually have full plastic surgery. You're picking on me because of my lip filler. Okay.

Hallie (25:53)

I mean, lip filler migrates.

Kendall Vertez (25:54)

It migrates. I also drink out of straws. Yeah, which you're really not supposed to.

Hallie (25:58)

I, like, gave a blow job, like, 20 minutes after I got my lips filled.

Kendall Vertez (26:01)

Wait, also, Hallie did just say she got her boobs done and went out the same night.

Hallie (26:05)

Yeah, I did.

Kendall Vertez (26:06)

Your pain tolerance is actually so high.

Hallie (26:09)

No, it's insane. But trust me, when you get your tits done, you're gonna realize when you wake up, you feel amazing and great. Like, literally, you don't feel anything.

Kendall Vertez (26:17)

Well, isn't it, like, because I've never been under anesthesia. Like, I still have to get my wisdom teeth out, and I am putting it off because I'm so scared of anesthesia. Isn't it, like, you literally close your eyes and then you open them? Like, is that what it feels like?

Hallie (26:27)

You were out for two seconds. You don't remember falling asleep, and you just kind of wake up, but they give you, like, a sedative before you go under. Okay, so, like, you kind of just feel like you don't care. Like, you could, like, punch me in the face. I won't even care right now. Like, you just feel very. Like, it's like a Xanax.

Kendall Vertez (26:42)

Okay, so you're making me. You're making me excited for this, but.

Hallie (26:44)

I will say not to make you less excited.

Kendall Vertez (26:46)

Oh, great.

Hallie (26:47)

Wisdom teeth surgery was a lot worse than.

Kendall Vertez (26:49)

Thank you. Yeah, I'm, like, Now I'm debating, what do I get done first? Okay, I'm getting my boobs done in January. Like, I have to.

Hallie (26:56)

Yeah, teeth can wait. I'll give you a doctor rack.

Kendall Vertez (26:59)

I actually was looking at one in New York. Yeah, but I need. I'll take your wreck.

Hallie (27:03)

Yeah. Dr. Anna. Steve, shout out. She did my tits twice.

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Wait.

Kendall Vertez (27:06)

Shout out. I'll see you soon, babe.

Hallie (27:08)

Yeah, okay. Sorry. What are we talking about? I get distracted by tits.

Kendall Vertez (27:11)

We were talking about soda St. So many turns. Chat. Dbt to tits.

Hallie (27:16)

The karate. This is what I was saying. I was a karate kid. I got at my brown belt.

Kendall Vertez (27:22)

Did you have two brothers? Three brothers, yeah.

Hallie (27:24)

I'm one of four. I have two brothers and older sister Sammy did football.

Kendall Vertez (27:29)

We know that. Everybody tells me you're gonna hate this. Everybody tells me. Oh, my God. You and Sammy would be so cute. I'm like. I literally. Like, I met him.

Hallie (27:37)

Like, you should date my brother.

Kendall Vertez (27:38)

He is cute.

Hallie (27:39)

He's such a. And he's so nice.

Kendall Vertez (27:41)

Sam, if you're watching this.

Hallie (27:42)

Sam, if you're watching this, hit up Kendall Right now I have so many people hit me up. Like, about Sammy.

Kendall Vertez (27:49)

Like, he'd be a really good bachelor. How old is he?

Hallie (27:53)

And Will should have their own bachelor.

Kendall Vertez (27:55)

Wait, he would be such a good bachelor.

Hallie (27:58)

Yeah, he would. He's just like such a nice, like, boy.

Kendall Vertez (28:01)

And they don't make those anymore. Like, it's really hard to find.

Hallie (28:04)

Well, he's the youngest too, so you guys have something in common.

Kendall Vertez (28:07)

Yeah.

Hallie (28:09)

Me and Chad, the middle, he.

Kendall Vertez (28:11)

Was also there, but I didn't really get to talk to him. He was at the.

Hallie (28:14)

We're like the devious ones.

Kendall Vertez (28:16)

Okay.

Hallie (28:17)

That kind of like got in trouble a lot. And then my older sister is.

Kendall Vertez (28:20)

You have an older sister?

Hallie (28:21)

Yeah, she's a sober Pilates instructor. I don't. That sounded weird description. She is. I meant to say she's the complete opposite of me. She's sober and she's a potty instructor.

Kendall Vertez (28:34)

Oh, God.

Hallie (28:35)

She's not like a sober.

Kendall Vertez (28:38)

She's sober guys.

Hallie (28:40)

Okay, so tell me about situation chips. What do you think about them?

Kendall Vertez (28:43)

I'm kind of in the era of situationships right now.

Hallie (28:46)

Do you have a roster?

Kendall Vertez (28:47)

I like my roster changes. Like two weeks ago asked me about my roster. Would have been a whole different group.

Hallie (28:52)

Of people that's kind of like me.

Kendall Vertez (28:53)

I. I travel so much, so I love just like meeting new people, having a little fling for a little bit, and then, like, moving on. But I have really bad attachment issues.

Hallie (29:03)

What is your attachment style?

Kendall Vertez (29:04)

If I hang out with you and then like, you can't reply to me the next day, like, I'm done. Like, that's weird.

Hallie (29:10)

So you're done? You're not like, harassing them?

Kendall Vertez (29:13)

No, I used to harass, but I'm like, wait, what am I doing? Why am I chasing after a man that literally is a 4?

Hallie (29:19)

We don't chase, we attract.

Kendall Vertez (29:21)

And that's honestly the lesson I'm teaching myself every day.

Hallie (29:24)

It'll take a couple years for that to really set in. I feel like that's a frontal loop develop.

Kendall Vertez (29:29)

It really is. And I still have a. About three years.

Hallie (29:31)

Yeah.

Kendall Vertez (29:31)

But the biggest problem is that I really love athletes, which is the first red flag. Like, I love an athlete because. Yeah, unfortunately, because I've never met. Unfortunately, I've never met, like a good finance guy. I've never met, like, a good, normal man.

Hallie (29:51)

Do you like a toxic guy?

Kendall Vertez (29:52)

Yeah, I go after those because. But toxic and toxic, like, sometimes they cancel out, you know, like a positive and a negative. But a negative and a negative sometimes can make a Positive.

Hallie (30:01)

No. That's how I look at it, too. That's. I knew I liked you. It's just like finance guys, especially at your age, I always say this. They should be. They should have no time for you. They should be working 100 hours a week in the office. So when they're 40 and more established.

Kendall Vertez (30:22)

With my name on it, they can.

Hallie (30:23)

Hit up you and have a billion dollars, and then you're sad. But I don't think finance guys at this age should really have any time to date. And they're kind of, like, dull when they do.

Kendall Vertez (30:32)

When they do, like, they'll literally hit you up, you'll have a great week together, and then ghost you. And it's like, what?

Hallie (30:39)

I just, like, like, no, we make more than finance guys.

Kendall Vertez (30:42)

No, literally, I'm like, dude, I'm not even trying to go after you for your freaking money. Like, I honestly just wanted a nice man not in the public eye. Like, likes to work, good family morals, and you ruin it.

Hallie (30:53)

Do you not want to date someone in the public eye? Is that important to you?

Kendall Vertez (30:56)

I honestly don't care. I. I was actually thinking about this this morning. This is a shower thought. I kind of like them being in the public eye because they go through what we go through. Like, they get it when we get backlash. Like, they go through backlash, and, like, they know how to handle themselves when they're.

Hallie (31:12)

Yeah, I.

Kendall Vertez (31:13)

Just in public and, like. Yeah.

Hallie (31:15)

There's something about girls being in the public eye versus a man being in the public eye that kind of like. Like, almost gives me the egg.

Kendall Vertez (31:22)

Doesn't sit right with me.

Hallie (31:23)

Sometimes they're super camera forward. It's like, okay, diva, relax.

Kendall Vertez (31:27)

No, literally, you know, like, let me hand you my lip gloss.

Hallie (31:29)

Like, if you have like. Like, let me. Do you want to borrow my octo body? Like, why are we. What are we doing here?

Kendall Vertez (31:34)

No. And it's really hard to pick those out because it's easy to hide. And then you start to see, and it's like, wait, are you more fame hungry than I thought you were?

Hallie (31:41)

No, like, a man that's a cloud chaser. Literally, my clip will go back into my.

Kendall Vertez (31:44)

I was just talking about this. I could never date a man that's on Tick Tock.

Hallie (31:47)

Or, like, Tick Tock is like, a rare breed of man, but I have. I slept with those guys.

Kendall Vertez (31:53)

Yeah, absolutely. And will I do it again? Yeah, absolutely.

Hallie (31:56)

Absolutely. That is not our husband.

Kendall Vertez (31:59)

No. And that's also what I'm telling myself. I'm like, okay, we can have a One night stand. I'm not gonna marry you.

Hallie (32:05)

It like I think athlete would be a good camera forward person.

Kendall Vertez (32:09)

I just could be a wag.

Hallie (32:11)

All my friends are wags.

Kendall Vertez (32:12)

Isn't it like, like do you want that?

Hallie (32:14)

I mean I would be a wag, but like you'd be, you'd be a good my. I mean I'm just thinking of like two of my best friends off the top of my head. Like Emma Pritchard.

Kendall Vertez (32:22)

Yeah. Oh yeah, yeah.

Hallie (32:23)

You're friends with her and Paige Lorenz, right?

Kendall Vertez (32:26)

Oh my God. Those are like ultimate, ultimate wags.

Hallie (32:29)

Like the waggies of the Wags and. But they lucked out. Like they have really good partners.

Kendall Vertez (32:33)

I was gonna say I but I.

Hallie (32:34)

Get a little scared with just like athletes.

Kendall Vertez (32:38)

Well, yeah, it's really scary. They travel so much. It's so easy for them to cheat and it's so easy for them to just be like, okay then bye. Like you call me cheating. Okay, see ya. Like they don't care.

Hallie (32:47)

But like if you find the right guy, I guess it works. And I feel like they have.

Kendall Vertez (32:50)

They definitely hit the jacket with them.

Hallie (32:52)

They're like awesome. But that's the only issue I have with athletes. But like will I would I still be a WAG? Yes. 100.

Kendall Vertez (32:59)

Yeah. But I really like that era.

Hallie (33:03)

What sport do you have a sport that you lean towards?

Kendall Vertez (33:05)

I used to be hockey. Now I'm football.

Hallie (33:10)

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Kendall Vertez (35:31)

My last boyfriend. I dated him from freshman year up until senior year of college.

Hallie (35:36)

Oh, wow.

Kendall Vertez (35:37)

Like my whole college life.

Hallie (35:39)

Yeah. I mean, I had a boyfriend in college too.

Kendall Vertez (35:42)

It's fun. But we also didn't go to the same college. It was still.

Hallie (35:46)

How did you meet him?

Kendall Vertez (35:47)

He was two hours away from me. He went to Georgetown.

Hallie (35:49)

Did he play football?

Kendall Vertez (35:50)

He played baseball. He was a really good baseball player. He's at Georgetown, which is a really hard school to get into. He was a great guy. Guy super smart.

Hallie (35:56)

Yeah.

Kendall Vertez (35:56)

Athletic, Very handsome. Good family. Started dating. Everything was great. Senior year comes around. I quit the dance team because I wanted to just like be a normal college student and not wake up and have dance on my mind because, yeah, it was too much. I think he took that as okay. Okay. He was two years older than me. He ended up doing his grad year at Clemson. So we went from being two hours to eight hours away from each other.

Hallie (36:19)

Okay.

Kendall Vertez (36:20)

Long distance to the mattress. Max. When I quit dance team, he took that as okay, now you can come see me every weekend and come to all my games. I'm like, no, I'm gonna like go out with my roommates. I'm gonna enjoy college and like be able to finally travel on brand trips. And so then I started going out more and he either texted me or called me and was like, I don't even recognize you anymore. You're going crazy. You're drinking too much. I don't know if I can be with you. And I'm like, it just Sounds like you're insecure and you don't trust me. And that's, like, not what a relationship should be built on.

Hallie (36:48)

Yeah.

Kendall Vertez (36:49)

So I said we should take a break.

Hallie (36:50)

Break.

Kendall Vertez (36:50)

Our main thing was like, we don't do breaks. We either break up or we stay together. I was like, no, let's take a break. Let's see what happens. Like, we took a break for, like, two weeks. I called him. I'm like, hey, let's try this again. We tried it again. Communication was just like, eh. Then he officially, like, ripped the band aid off and was like, let's just break up. We went like, cold turkey. No talking for like, three months. And then I started reaching out. How's your season going? Miss you. Let's FaceTime. We would FaceTime like, once a week for hours. And then all of a sudden, he has a girlfriend and is living in Dallas with her.

Hallie (37:26)

I love that for you. Wait, okay, so tell me about your podcast. I want to hear about it. What's it about? And tell me everything.

Kendall Vertez (37:32)

So it's called not so Little, My nickname from the show. My mom would call me my little Kendall all the time. And I'm like, now that I'm going through adulthood things, let's turn it into something a little more mature. Not so little. It was perfect. Doesn't really, like, put me in a box to a specific title or whatever to talk about. And it's kind of just me in my 20s figuring out where I'm gonna go, what do I want to do, Am I gonna do something with my degree? Talking about friendships, relationships. Obviously I have some cool friends that I want to have on and guests, but it's more of like a vlog style podcast. So every episode I'm either traveling somewhere or I'm at home. Figuring out life and living with your parents.

Hallie (38:13)

I mean, I feel like this era is of. Of your life, like, right after you graduate. College hasn't, like, a show like this hasn't been really put out there. It's like, so important because it's such a confusing time.

Kendall Vertez (38:26)

It so is.

Hallie (38:27)

You don't know what you want to do. Where do you want to live? Like, what if I make a mistake doing that? And it's like you're playing chess with your life almost.

Kendall Vertez (38:33)

Yeah.

Hallie (38:33)

And there's also just like, being thrown into the real world. Like, there's like a lot of, like. Like your frontal lobe really starts to build.

Kendall Vertez (38:40)

Yeah. I also think it's hard with Tick Tock. Everybody's always posting, like, this glam, like, the glamorous side of their lives of, like, oh, I just got my new nine to five. Like, I'm working at the J.P. morgan building.

Hallie (38:50)

Oh, my God, they hate their lives, all of them.

Kendall Vertez (38:52)

And I'm like, am I doing something wrong? It's so easy to compare yourself to, like, people you see your age on Tick Tock because they look like they're living this glamorous life. It's like, wait. I also tend to post a glamorous life, but, like, I'm really going through it. I'm in the trenches, right?

Hallie (39:06)

No, it's.

Kendall Vertez (39:06)

It's single living with your parents. My brother's doing double homicide right there.

Hallie (39:12)

Sammy. Not to bring him up again. He's literally in the exact same spot.

Kendall Vertez (39:14)

We can bring him up again.

Hallie (39:17)

He's like, I'm. All my friends have, like, corporate jobs, and I'm still living with my parents. That's why he's, like, so confused. He, like, tried to join a modeling agency. He's posting on Tick Tock.

Kendall Vertez (39:28)

As you should.

Hallie (39:28)

And I was deserves.

Kendall Vertez (39:30)

That man belongs in a magazine. Wait, you know who else is really cute?

Hallie (39:33)

Who?

Kendall Vertez (39:34)

Junior.

Hallie (39:35)

Junior.

Kendall Vertez (39:36)

I think Junior is cute, too.

Hallie (39:37)

Junior, his best friend.

Kendall Vertez (39:39)

Okay.

Hallie (39:39)

Kendall. And he plays football. Well, they both do. Great.

Kendall Vertez (39:43)

This is great.

Hallie (39:45)

Don't worry. Things are already looking up.

Kendall Vertez (39:47)

I'm excited again.

Hallie (39:48)

But I just think that, like, for me, all my friends had jobs right out of college.

Kendall Vertez (39:52)

It's so hard.

Hallie (39:53)

I was a classics major and was like, what the. I don't want to work at a museum.

Kendall Vertez (39:57)

Wait, what was your major?

Hallie (39:58)

A classics major.

Kendall Vertez (40:00)

I've never heard of that.

Hallie (40:00)

In our art history minor.

Kendall Vertez (40:02)

What?

Hallie (40:03)

My thesis was the emotional manipulation of Helen Architecture during that period.

Kendall Vertez (40:08)

Holly, that is.

Hallie (40:09)

And how it evoked emotion.

Kendall Vertez (40:10)

I got an A. Craziest lore drop I've ever heard.

Hallie (40:13)

I know. I love dropping that when I can.

Kendall Vertez (40:15)

I honestly feel like that would get a lot of guys if you tell them that at a bar.

Hallie (40:18)

I bring it up way too much online.

Kendall Vertez (40:20)

No, I would. That's a flex.

Hallie (40:22)

I'll be talking about the weather, and I'll be like, this reminds me about that time in the holonistic era.

Kendall Vertez (40:26)

Well, because I never would have pictured you being, like, studying that. Like, that's such a.

Hallie (40:31)

Because people think I'm a dumb, but I try to like. Like, make people.

Kendall Vertez (40:33)

I kind of love that, though. People think you're dumb, and then you open your mouth and they're like, wait, she actually knows what she's talking.

Hallie (40:39)

No, I like, I online when I post a Tick Tock. I really stretch like the vocal fry and it's like kind of like this whole character I portray. But I love that I didn't have a real job until 25.

Kendall Vertez (40:52)

Really?

Hallie (40:52)

When I started making money on online, I was a hostess.

Kendall Vertez (40:55)

That gives me Hope with 16 year olds. Yeah.

Hallie (40:58)

When I was 24 years old.

Kendall Vertez (41:00)

It's also just.

Hallie (41:00)

It was a weird time.

Kendall Vertez (41:02)

Nobody, I feel like everybody that graduates college, a lot of them don't go get a job that they studied. Like, yeah, you can have a degree in political science and pre law and literally go work for a marketing agency.

Hallie (41:13)

Like, yeah.

Kendall Vertez (41:14)

That's another thing that I was kind of giving myself grace is like, I don't have to go into politics if I study politics. I would never go into politics. It is a dog eat dog world. I already get so much hate if I went into politics. Yeah, my life would be ruined.

Hallie (41:27)

But I mean, that is such a good message though. Like, literally give yourself grace.

Kendall Vertez (41:31)

I just. Yeah, you just have to tell yourself, like, everything is gonna work out. You're 22. Stop comparing yourself. It's gonna be okay.

Hallie (41:39)

There's gonna be like a really comforting element of your show because I feel like a lot of people are probably in your position, like figuring it out and I think that'll be really fun. I love it. I mean, for me, I do the same kind of thing. Don't always post. I don't glamorize my life.

Kendall Vertez (41:55)

I can't too much.

Hallie (41:56)

I like to like always just like also share what I'm going through, like my mental health. And if you show, you know, the ups and downs. Yeah. My eye rash right now. If you showed the ups and downs, I feel like it makes you a more tangible, relatable person.

Kendall Vertez (42:10)

Yeah. And that's literally all I want to be. I just want to be like, as relatable as possible because I may look like I have it all together and live this glamorous life. Like, people think reality TV pays well. We made like.

Hallie (42:20)

No. Yeah. It's also a lot like the public. Screw getting public. Publicly scrutinize at such a young age that with your head.

Kendall Vertez (42:27)

Yeah.

Hallie (42:27)

I can only imagine.

Kendall Vertez (42:29)

But I just want to be like that person that you can come to for comfort if you're going through it in your 20s. I'm right there with you.

Hallie (42:35)

Well, I'm excited to see.

Kendall Vertez (42:36)

Thank you.

Hallie (42:36)

It's gonna be fun.

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Kendall Vertez (43:41)

Okay.

Hallie (43:42)

Let's do some rapid fire hot takes looks on some fashion and 2025 trends.

Kendall Vertez (43:47)

Okay.

Hallie (43:48)

Ballet flats. Replacing sneakers.

Kendall Vertez (43:50)

Placing sneakers.

Hallie (43:51)

Replacing sneakers.

Kendall Vertez (43:53)

I have big feet, so I. You will never. You'll never find me in a ballet flat.

Hallie (43:58)

You'll never.

Kendall Vertez (43:59)

I look like a clown.

Hallie (44:00)

It's funny that you say that as a dancer.

Kendall Vertez (44:02)

Oh, yeah, yeah.

Hallie (44:03)

But like, I. I can't hop on that trend either.

Kendall Vertez (44:06)

I just. I think they're. They're cute if you have petite ass feet. I don't. Don't. So, no.

Hallie (44:11)

Yeah, I'm like an eight and a half clean girl aesthetic.

Kendall Vertez (44:14)

Yeah, I like it.

Hallie (44:16)

I like, like to follow it.

Kendall Vertez (44:17)

I like to portray like I'm a clean girl.

Hallie (44:19)

Oh, I know, but I'm.

Kendall Vertez (44:20)

I'm not, obviously. But I like to give that aesthetic.

Hallie (44:24)

With the Ralph Lauren shirt.

Kendall Vertez (44:25)

I really tried to.

Hallie (44:26)

You're giving clean girl to me.

Kendall Vertez (44:28)

Thank you.

Hallie (44:29)

I have like this crazy rash around my eyes. It looks like I just did math before this. So I don't know if I'm giving that today with my Tesla. Uggs.

Kendall Vertez (44:37)

With your Tesla.

Hallie (44:39)

Wearing headphones as accessories also.

Kendall Vertez (44:41)

Pick me.

Hallie (44:42)

Pick me because I walk in like that today.

Kendall Vertez (44:44)

No, no, no, no, no. Okay, but you also like traveling. Like, people will just like, put headphones on to just like post a photo. Wired headphones making a comeback. I don't know how to feel about that. Like, do people think it's like, cool to have wires again?

Hallie (44:56)

Oh, I thought that's what it said. Wearing. Oh, but you're right. Wearing just headphones as accessories, that's pick me. Yeah, you're right.

Kendall Vertez (45:02)

I think like, people wearing the wired headphones now, it's like, oh, look at me. Like I'm not spending 800 on a pair of headphones. I.

Hallie (45:08)

But I love it right now. Y. Losing my AirPods. No, I can't buy another.

Kendall Vertez (45:14)

Also, you don't have to charge them.

Hallie (45:15)

Yeah.

Kendall Vertez (45:15)

Like, you just plug them in. But I don't like the people that wear them to, like, be cool, look.

Hallie (45:20)

Like, very, like, artsy. Like. Yeah, yeah, I get what you're saying.

Kendall Vertez (45:23)

I think I'm giving mean girl right now.

Hallie (45:24)

No, you're not. I. I like your answers, and I like that you're being honest with me. 2016 King Kylie makeup.

Kendall Vertez (45:31)

Oh, my God, it's so awesome.

Hallie (45:32)

Yeah.

Kendall Vertez (45:33)

I honestly loved that for her.

Hallie (45:35)

Yeah.

Kendall Vertez (45:35)

King Kylie, like, really was a transformative year for me.

Hallie (45:39)

How old were you? When? In 2016? Because I was, like, a sophomore in college. You're probably in elementary school.

Kendall Vertez (45:47)

I think I was either in high, middle school or high. I was definitely in high school.

Hallie (45:51)

Okay.

Kendall Vertez (45:52)

I would always wait online for the lip kids to come out.

Hallie (45:54)

Like, I mean, they're still in airports.

Kendall Vertez (45:56)

I know. The little vending machine.

Hallie (45:57)

And I'm like, who's funding this?

Kendall Vertez (45:59)

They have billions.

Hallie (46:00)

Yeah. Okay. Micro bag bags.

Kendall Vertez (46:05)

I like them because they're easy. I like them when I go out. Like, I don't like a big ass bag hanging on my arm. Like a.

Hallie (46:11)

What do they fit?

Kendall Vertez (46:12)

Oh. Oh, those?

Hallie (46:13)

Yeah.

Kendall Vertez (46:14)

Hate it.

Hallie (46:15)

Like a Judith Leiber.

Kendall Vertez (46:16)

Also, like, why are we. Why are we paying a thousand dollars for a Jacques Jack Moose? Yeah, that.

Hallie (46:24)

That's my jacket. Jackmoos.

Kendall Vertez (46:25)

Like, why are we paying a thousand dollars for something that literally could fit a quarter?

Hallie (46:30)

No, I agree with this. It's not like you can't.

Kendall Vertez (46:32)

I just think it's. It just. It ruins the vibe.

Hallie (46:34)

Jorts.

Kendall Vertez (46:36)

Hell no. I have dancer legs, though.

Hallie (46:38)

I love Jors.

Kendall Vertez (46:39)

Yeah, you have great legs for Jors. I have the fattest quad muscles on this planet. Earth. You will never catch me. Enjoy. I put jorts on, and it looked like I cut skinny jeans. Like, they were literally wrapped around my thighs.

Hallie (46:50)

I only like edgy jorts, though. Like, not, like, through, like, the frayed.

Kendall Vertez (46:54)

I like the frayed.

Hallie (46:55)

Like, mar. Like, like, good patchwork.

Kendall Vertez (46:58)

You wore jorts in Vegas, and it was so awesome with, like, a white tank. You're off at 8. I literally have it engraved in my memory. You had a black top on with a white Hanes tank and Jors. And it was like, who is this? Like, she's so cool.

Hallie (47:12)

I worked with the stylist, though, for that one.

Kendall Vertez (47:14)

No. But as you should have.

Hallie (47:15)

I was. That was Great about Vegas.

Kendall Vertez (47:17)

That was really awesome.

Hallie (47:19)

Okay, what is the best accessory? That's a question.

Kendall Vertez (47:25)

I think for fall, a really good scarf. Like, right now for New York, I love, like, a big, thick scarf.

Hallie (47:31)

What's a good place to get a scarf?

Kendall Vertez (47:33)

I'm a classic, and I just go with Burberry.

Hallie (47:35)

Burberry.

Kendall Vertez (47:36)

I like Burberry. Or Acne Studios has good scars. Yeah, they're just expensive.

Hallie (47:40)

Acne Studios has really good scarves.

Kendall Vertez (47:42)

We're not giving a good budget right now.

Hallie (47:44)

Are you into.

Kendall Vertez (47:45)

Oh, Aritzia is good too. Yeah.

Hallie (47:47)

Are you into mixing metals?

Kendall Vertez (47:49)

Yes. Yes, I am into mixing metals.

Hallie (47:51)

I feel like that's fun, but I.

Kendall Vertez (47:53)

I used to be a gold girl, then I started mixing.

Hallie (47:55)

You know, I think silver works with my skin tone.

Kendall Vertez (47:58)

But I really like your hand tats.

Hallie (48:00)

Thank you. Aren't they fun?

Kendall Vertez (48:01)

Those are really fun.

Hallie (48:02)

I went through, like, a really weird era earlier this fall, and I was like, I need to get some hands.

Kendall Vertez (48:08)

I like it.

Hallie (48:09)

Yeah. They're, like, dainty and fun.

Kendall Vertez (48:10)

Yeah.

Hallie (48:11)

But what is your everyday outfit staple?

Kendall Vertez (48:14)

I just like a good pair of baggy jeans.

Hallie (48:16)

Same. Like, what's your favorite brand of jean?

Kendall Vertez (48:19)

I love a Goldie. A Goldie.

Hallie (48:22)

A Goldie.

Kendall Vertez (48:22)

Yeah.

Hallie (48:23)

The equality is good. I've been loving EB Oh, EB Denim.

Kendall Vertez (48:27)

Citizens of Humanity has really good jeans because it's so soft. It literally feels like you're wearing sweatpants.

Hallie (48:32)

And rag and bone. It's good jeans, too.

Kendall Vertez (48:34)

All expensive, but all worth it. I will say, like, invest in a.

Hallie (48:37)

Good pair of jeans.

Kendall Vertez (48:38)

I'm starting to like my clean girl aesthetic is buying. Good staple.

Hallie (48:42)

Like, capsule.

Kendall Vertez (48:43)

Yeah.

Hallie (48:44)

Wardrobe capsule. Yeah. I need to get better about that. What is your hot take on sorority recruitment?

Kendall Vertez (48:50)

I just think, all in all, it's just so toxic. Like, they.

Hallie (48:53)

It's, like, really.

Kendall Vertez (48:54)

It's just really toxic. And I feel bad for the girls that don't get the sororities they want because it's like, at the end of the day, it's a literal sorority at a college. Like, it's not that deep.

Hallie (49:03)

Yeah. I was never supposed to be a.

Kendall Vertez (49:05)

Sisterhood, and you're literally turning people down for, like, a minor flaw, like, their hair color. What?

Hallie (49:11)

Like, also, I'd be damned if a were to tell me what to do, like, at one of those sororities.

Kendall Vertez (49:16)

It's so crazy that people pay, like, thousands of dollars to be a part of, like, that social.

Hallie (49:21)

It's like, a social status.

Kendall Vertez (49:22)

It's a social experiment, I think.

Hallie (49:24)

Yeah. It's really odd to Me.

Kendall Vertez (49:26)

To be honest, someone said aloe is a social experiment, and now I cannot un like that.

Hallie (49:30)

That's so real, being in a relationship. In college, we kind of already went over this. But what do you think about it?

Kendall Vertez (49:35)

It. I think if it's stable, it's fine. If it's unstable, get out.

Hallie (49:42)

Situationships lasting longer than a year.

Kendall Vertez (49:45)

Oh, my God.

Hallie (49:47)

That's a relationship.

Kendall Vertez (49:47)

You would literally never see me outside of the house if that ever happened.

Hallie (49:51)

Like, I mean, like, what does that even mean? You're in a situationship for over a year.

Kendall Vertez (49:54)

Okay, what do you think a sit. Like, how long do you think a situationship should last?

Hallie (49:58)

Max. Three months?

Kendall Vertez (49:59)

I. I was gonna say three months too.

Hallie (50:00)

Yeah.

Kendall Vertez (50:01)

Max facts after that. Like, if I like you, I know within two hours. I'm sorry.

Hallie (50:05)

Yeah, like, but, like, after a month, I think it's okay to, like, have a conversation.

Kendall Vertez (50:09)

Oh, what are we, a thousand percent.

Hallie (50:11)

After, like, a month? A month and a half.

Kendall Vertez (50:12)

Like, men can't comprehend that, but, like, the women can.

Hallie (50:15)

Like, if you, like, what are we doing? Like, don't waste my time.

Kendall Vertez (50:18)

No, seriously.

Hallie (50:19)

Yeah.

Kendall Vertez (50:19)

I'll literally replace you within 24 hours.

Hallie (50:21)

Period. I'm putting that in my bio. Okay. What's the best night to go out in college?

Kendall Vertez (50:28)

I love a good Thursday night.

Hallie (50:29)

Mine was Wednesday.

Kendall Vertez (50:31)

Really?

Hallie (50:31)

Yeah. Thursday.

Kendall Vertez (50:32)

Wine Wednesdays, or just, like, going out? I would rip it at Union College.

Hallie (50:37)

Yeah, it was really fun.

Kendall Vertez (50:38)

Honestly. I could see that. Yeah, I like a Thursday night. I mean, Friday is also fun. Hate Saturdays because then you have one day left of the weekend. Like, you wake up Saturdays feeling like on Sunday you have to, like, reset, do your sheets, do homework.

Hallie (50:52)

What do you think about day drinking?

Kendall Vertez (50:54)

I loved a good day drink. Like, a dirty.

Hallie (50:56)

My friends used to, like, love to go out all during the day on Saturday and, like, go better early. But, like, I'm a night person.

Kendall Vertez (51:02)

I am a night person. Like, if I were to day drink, I couldn't. You wouldn't see me out that night.

Hallie (51:06)

See, I can do both. And I'm blacked out.

Kendall Vertez (51:08)

It is. It's. It's a lot. I've done it maybe twice, and I will never do it again because I didn't survive. But I love a dirty.

Hallie (51:14)

Should people do long distance during car? During college?

Kendall Vertez (51:18)

I mean, I did long distance and it was fine. It just takes a certain breed. Like, not everybody is built for long distance. I'll say that.

Hallie (51:24)

I think it's better if you're, like, a busier person.

Kendall Vertez (51:26)

I also think long distance people have such a bad stigma about it. I honestly liked it because I had my own time to do whatever I wanted. I wasn't seeing him every day. We would FaceTime for, like, an hour, and that's all I needed.

Hallie (51:38)

Yeah.

Kendall Vertez (51:39)

But then it started to get a little repetitive, and it's like, okay, you're.

Hallie (51:42)

Like, all right, I'm over this.

Kendall Vertez (51:43)

Yeah, exactly.

Hallie (51:45)

Senior year. Burnout. Did you have it?

Kendall Vertez (51:48)

Honestly? Not really. Yeah, I was. I mean, I was excited to get out, but I also was really sad to be leaving that stage of my life. I loved my roommates. Roommates also depends on your college experience. Like, if you have terrible roommates, that already just sets your mood and attitude really low. But did you have shitty roommates?

Hallie (52:04)

I.

Kendall Vertez (52:05)

My freshman year was awful.

Hallie (52:06)

I mean, everyone has shitty freshman year.

Kendall Vertez (52:07)

But, yeah, like, that.

Hallie (52:08)

I was the shitty freshman year mate to these poor small girls.

Kendall Vertez (52:13)

If you were my freshman year roommate.

Hallie (52:15)

I would bring guys back.

Kendall Vertez (52:16)

Wait, that is so funny.

Hallie (52:18)

And they were like, we have practice at, like, 5am and I was like, I don't give a. I would steal all their snacks. Snacks too.

Kendall Vertez (52:26)

Okay. But that's not terrible. Like, that's not like a roommate from hell stealing snacks. Gone.

Hallie (52:29)

No, I wouldn't, like, put a cat in, like, the microwave situation, but, like, I was definitely, like, an annoying roommate.

Kendall Vertez (52:36)

In fact, that's the first thing you thought of. Of being a bad for me.

Hallie (52:39)

I mean, have you seen that. That movie?

Kendall Vertez (52:41)

There is a show. I didn't watch it.

Hallie (52:43)

And did you watch the Cat in the Laundry? It's like a movie where it's, like, about, like, a really scary roommate and she, like, kills people. She was obsessed. I'll send you a link.

Kendall Vertez (52:54)

Okay.

Hallie (52:55)

I mean, I was like that to that extent, so I comparatively, was a great roommate. Great. Okay. Are boyfriends allowed to come to the pre game for girls night?

Kendall Vertez (53:04)

If it's a girl's night, it's a girl. Did I hear a boy in there? It's a girl's night.

Hallie (53:10)

Is it ever a good idea to live with your best friend in college?

Kendall Vertez (53:14)

I mean, it just. Yeah, if it's your best friend and you guys, like, know each other through the good and the bad, like, yeah, do it.

Hallie (53:20)

Why would that be a bad idea? I'm kind of.

Kendall Vertez (53:23)

Well, because sometimes, like, I, like, I do get into tiffs with my best friends, and I do have friends that I'm like, I could never live with them, but I love them. There are just some people that, like, physically, you just, like, cannot live with them. It would not work out men who.

Hallie (53:36)

Say they don't have social media. What do we think about those guys?

Kendall Vertez (53:39)

I think there's two types. I think there's one that's trying to be really pick me and being like, like, this will get her in my pants. And then there's ones that genuinely just like, do not give two shits about.

Hallie (53:48)

Social media that those kind of men would like. I like those type of men.

Kendall Vertez (53:52)

I want that type of man. But it. It doesn't really come around often.

Hallie (53:57)

Yeah, if your man travel for work three days a week, every single week, that's fine.

Kendall Vertez (54:02)

Cuz then I'll be traveling three days a week too.

Hallie (54:03)

Like, period.

Kendall Vertez (54:05)

Or I'll come with you.

Hallie (54:07)

Hooking up with someone who follows a thousand Instagram models.

Kendall Vertez (54:11)

Oh, my God, absolutely.

Hallie (54:13)

I'm cracking up. Marshall, dating apps. What do you think about them?

Kendall Vertez (54:18)

I actually. I tried to apply for Raya and got turned away and that was it. I said, okay, I'm not meant to be on. He said, no, I literally. I didn't have referrals.

Hallie (54:29)

Oh, my God. All of a sudden you were.

Kendall Vertez (54:30)

But I didn't think I needed one. If I have 11 million followers, I just spit into the camera. If I have 11 million followers on Instagram, I did not think I needed referrals. But.

Hallie (54:38)

But wait, that's insane.

Kendall Vertez (54:39)

Not trying to like.

Hallie (54:40)

No, but that's insane.

Kendall Vertez (54:41)

Be that person. But like, come.

Hallie (54:42)

Raya, what are you doing?

Kendall Vertez (54:44)

It's okay. I just travel so much, so I wanted to see, like, who are the new fish in the sea?

Hallie (54:48)

You know, Doula is. I don't know how their algorithm works either.

Kendall Vertez (54:52)

Like, my friends from home, who not to sound mean, like, have a following, but they're on Raya.

Hallie (54:57)

No, I know. I. I don't understand how they choose people, to be honest. Girls proposing to men. I actually saw one of these recently. You saw Bella Thorne proposed to her man. She got down on one knee.

Kendall Vertez (55:10)

It's Bella Thorne, though.

Hallie (55:12)

I know. She's kind of a baddie. I just don't think I'd want to see a bunch of, like, normal people proposing to men. Yeah, like, if my best girlfriends from college started, like, getting down on one knee with a ring in hand, I'd be like, babe, get up.

Kendall Vertez (55:24)

Like, is this a skit? Am I getting pranked?

Hallie (55:26)

Yeah, no. I'd be like, what? All right. Getting a voice note from a guy you're newly seeing.

Kendall Vertez (55:31)

Hot.

Hallie (55:32)

Hot.

Kendall Vertez (55:32)

Yeah. I love a voice.

Hallie (55:34)

We need more of that.

Kendall Vertez (55:34)

Also, I've never received one.

Hallie (55:35)

One.

Kendall Vertez (55:36)

But from a Guy Sammy.

Hallie (55:41)

Would you let him be friends with his ex girlfriend?

Kendall Vertez (55:45)

I think that's really cutting it close.

Hallie (55:48)

I think it's inappropriate.

Kendall Vertez (55:49)

Yeah, I don't think that should fly.

Hallie (55:51)

Do you have an ick?

Kendall Vertez (55:52)

Yes. And I've been saying this for a while. 30 year old men using Snapchat as communication.

Hallie (55:58)

Yeah, that's gotta go.

Kendall Vertez (56:00)

I think after the age of like 26, 27, you need to literally delete the app. Yeah, I have it for memories. Yeah, that's it. I don't even Snapchat people when I'm 22. I literally have one streak. It's my best friend.

Hallie (56:12)

I mean I feel like Instagram's like the mode of like that should be the mode of like communication texting.

Kendall Vertez (56:18)

Hey, what about a hey, hi. Hello. Not a. Let me see.

Hallie (56:20)

If you don't know the person, it's like instead of like, can I have your number? I think can I have your Instagram is okay. Because sometimes I don't want to like give all these random men my number.

Kendall Vertez (56:28)

I support that. 100 Snapchat. Get me out.

Hallie (56:31)

Yeah, I agree with that. Sharing locations with your boyfriend.

Kendall Vertez (56:34)

Oh yeah, for sure. Not in like in like the least weird way. Like a very innocent. Sharing locations.

Hallie (56:42)

Yeah, I mean it's a safety thing. At the end of the day, I also like for them, I need to know where the they're at, obviously.

Kendall Vertez (56:49)

But I think just like I share my location with everyone and they should.

Hallie (56:52)

Probably know where the I'm at.

Kendall Vertez (56:53)

Yeah.

Hallie (56:53)

Because sometimes they don't know where I'm at.

Kendall Vertez (56:55)

You should keep an eye out for the Selena over here.

Hallie (56:57)

Okay. Two more. How much do you stock before our first date?

Kendall Vertez (57:02)

I go pretty hard.

Hallie (57:03)

I go pretty hard. I know their address and then I'll like Zillow their house. What year did it get?

Kendall Vertez (57:09)

I honestly, I have zillowed a few times just to see the price range of what their like their family.

Hallie (57:14)

That's exactly what I do and that's exactly why I do it.

Kendall Vertez (57:17)

But then again, since I only go after athletes, like I go to their interviews, I go to their huddles, I go to like, I search their names on Tik Tok and I see who they go. I go, oh, tagged also guys, girls. I know I sound like a weirdo. Recent following dot com.

Hallie (57:32)

I. I don't even. Ignorance is blessed, baby.

Kendall Vertez (57:34)

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Hallie (57:42)

Have you ever walked out on a first date?

Kendall Vertez (57:44)

No. I also don't really go on a lot of first dates. I usually just go to their house.

Hallie (57:48)

Me, me, me. That's so me.

Kendall Vertez (57:50)

And then when someone's like, let me take you out to dinner, I'm like, like, it's the nicest thing ever. And it's like, the bear.

Hallie (57:55)

No, I do everything backwards. I, like, usually, like, hook up with a guy and then, like, if I like them through that, I'll be like, oh, maybe we go on a date.

Kendall Vertez (58:04)

I see if they see my future. And it's very bright.

Hallie (58:08)

Oh, my God. It was so much fun.

Kendall Vertez (58:09)

This was. We've done this forever. I know. I was gonna say that's it, you.

Hallie (58:13)

Know, like, that was amazing. You're amazing. Your show is gonna be be amazing. Thank you, everyone. Make sure you watch your show. And yeah, thanks for coming on. You're like a big sister. I know. We have so much fun.

Kendall Vertez (58:25)

Love you.

Hallie (58:26)

Love you so much. And guys, always. You can watch on YouTube and listen to me on any other platform, like comment, share with your friends. Everyone. Have a great week and I'll see you next Thursday.

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