My college roommate exposes me *our wild college stories*

Summary

Extra Dirty with Hallie Batchelder

Episode: My College Roommate Exposes Me our wild college stories

Date: August 21, 2025
Guest: Margot (Hallie’s college roommate)

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Episode Overview

This episode is a raunchy, hilarious trip down memory lane as Hallie reunites with her college roommate Margot for an unfiltered, no-holds-barred debrief of their wild years at Union College. The friends spill on chaotic parties, campus drama, hookup rosters, messy relationships, campus run-ins (with police, the administration, AND the parking authority), Greek life myths, summer escapades on Nantucket, and their advice for incoming college students. It’s a brutally honest, funny, sisterly roast and love letter about their formative years together—the friendships, the mistakes, the regrets, and the growth (with nothing left unsaid).

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Key Discussion Points & Highlights

1. How Hallie & Margot Met, and First Impressions

[02:05 – 03:50]

• Margot and Hallie first met in Boston, before heading to Union College (“summer before college”) at a Nantucket parking lot party.
• Margot: “I was in the scholars program, so I got put in the weird dorm on the other side of campus with the nerds.”
• Hallie calls their pairing the classic “angel and devil” combo (Hallie the party/classics major, Margot the bookish pre-med).
• Hallie: “I was partying every night…You had to take like, 19 classes. I thought you were gonna be a doctor.”
• Margot would bring her biology textbook to parties—Hallie has photos of her with a J in one hand and a textbook in the other.
• Margot: “Then I’d wake up at 6am, rip an Adderall, and take my exam four hours later.”
• Margot, on their friendship: “We’re gonna be at each other’s funeral.” (01:22)

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2. The Bathroom Line Incident & Almost Getting Expelled

[04:30 – 10:18]

• Hallie tells the story of almost getting expelled for allegedly assaulting a freshman at a party (really she just threatened her after she came for Margot in the bathroom line).
• Hallie, dramatizing her defense: “See the floor? You say one more word and your face will be in the floor.” [08:24]
• Margot: “She told campus police...We went to court. You had to go to anger management!”
• Hallie: “I had an opening argument, witnesses, binders… I also paid full tuition—they were not suspending my ass.”
• The alleged “victim” transferred the next semester.
• Hallie jokes about the school’s bizarre point system and racking up tickets.
• Hilarious, candid retelling of campus “court” processes.

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3. Parking Ticket Madness

[10:19 – 11:30]

• Hallie became “target #1” for campus parking enforcement—once racking up 6-7 tickets in one day (“literally up on the field”).
• Hallie: “My dad…got a $10,000 parking bill for the semester.”
• Margot: “Your license plate literally was ACB number one.”

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4. Freshman Year, Dorm Dramas, Dealing with Change

[11:31 – 16:34]

• Hallie struggled with change, slept in friends’ rooms after her ex cheated.
• Both Margot and Hallie got cheated on as soon as they entered college:
  • “Sisters in cheating!” [12:21]
• Hallie: “If you go into college in a relationship…hindsight’s 20/20, but I’d never do that again.”
• Epic story: Hallie getting blackout on Pink Whitney, throwing up in bed and blaming Margot.
• Hallie’s dorm life: messy, wild, always a little bit on the verge.

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5. Life in the Minerva—Roommate Antics & The Frat Roster

[16:34 – 22:04]

• Margot explains the “Minerva” dorm (exclusive, not “party” housing)
• Hallie: “I wasn’t in a sorority—I wasn’t allowed. My GPA, I didn’t know you had to go to class in college!”
• Hallie: “I was sucking everyone off my freshman year. Went in with one [body count] and ended up with 11.” [18:19]
• The Sigma Chi “roster”:
  • Margot: “We acquired a full printed roster of the pledge class—started crossing off guys we’d hooked up with.” [19:11]
  • Hallie: “Sometimes I’d look at the roster and be like, who lives on the third floor? Ok, I’m going home with him tonight.”
• Hallie didn’t want to miss Starbucks runs with the girls in the morning so would purposely land sleepovers.

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6. Greek Life Exposés—Sororities, Hazing & SDT Hazing Article

[22:05 – 26:28]

• Hallie asks Margot about hazing at Delta Delta.
• Reads the infamous SDT hazing article from 2013:
  • “Do your sexiest dance…which one of us is a lesbian and why do you think that?” [22:46]
• Hallie: “They’d have to watch lesbian porn and sit on a basketball and see if they’d get wet…”
• Margot: “I would cry. I would throw up everywhere.”
• “I wish we got hazed…Bonding as long as it’s not terrible. Sorting sprinkles for an hour is not that deep.” (26:28)

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7. Sex, STDs, Hookup Culture

[23:56 – 25:47]

• Hallie: “STD is what we used to get in college—I only got one.”
• Margot recounts her chlamydia scare, “I got a call from my doctor, I was like shaking…Hallie helped me craft a text to both guys.”
• Hallie didn’t get chlamydia until after college: “Shockingly enough!”
• Takeaway: “Your first STD is not fun, but it’s not the end of the world.”

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8. College Relationship Drama & Epic Social Media Callouts

[27:30 – 31:50]

• Hallie would Instagram-blast men who wronged Margot:
  • Hallie: “I would post a hot Instagram of us and be like John Tucker Must Die.”
• Margot describes a friend giving head to a guy on the “fat bus” to formal, sparking sophomore-senior girl feuds.
• Rules of loyalty and being each other’s “ride or die” in college.
• Hallie: “If you cross my house, love, I’ll cross you up.” (27:54)

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9. Messy Relationships: Gaslighting, Manipulation, Self-Worth

[36:01 – 44:08]

• Hallie describes ups and downs with an emotionally manipulative ex:
  • “He would take my insecurities and use them as emotional warfare.”
  • “Every Friday, he’d call: ‘It’s time to break up again.’”
• Margot: “Instead of loving and accepting you, he was the definition of ‘I want you to change.’”
• Hallie: “Never let a man tell you that you’re too much. If they think you’re too much, it’s because they don’t feel like they’re enough.” [41:48]
• Honest discussion about cheating from both sides, the difference between impulsive validation-seeking and actual feelings.

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10. Nantucket Summers: Bender Stories, Working & Partying

[44:13 – 48:13]

• Margot and Hallie reminisce about their wild Nantucket summers:
  • Working as hostesses, partying every night, barely working, “the doom team.”
  • Hallie always disappearing to smoke a Juul behind the bar or FaceTime her ex.
• Margot story: having a seizure at Gaslight, getting pulled out, then going back out after.
• Recap their best and darkest summer (“so much anxiety, but so much fun”) and summer flings with best friend duos.

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11. Advice: College Do’s and Don’ts

[51:08 – 63:32]

• Hallie and Margot’s top “do’s and don’ts” for surviving and thriving in college:
  • Do not expect your first friend group to be forever.
  • Eat in the cafeteria (yes, you’ll gain the “freshman 15”).
  • Drink clear liquors—avoid Pink Whitney and Svedka.
  • Balance partying and studying—but don’t save all your classes for senior year!
  • Don’t make love or relationships your priority: “Make all the mistakes you can in college, so when you get into the real world, you know what not to do.” [55:42]
  • Lock your doors, be street smart.
  • Get involved in activities, join clubs, network with professors.
  • Don’t freak out if you’re not in Greek life (“it’s not the end of the world!”).
  • Change your major if you hate it.
  • Always exchange numbers with classmates—you WILL need their notes.
  • Don’t stress if you have no clue what you’re doing—“figure it out post-grad, you’re not locked in.”

Notable Quote (on validation and growing up):

“Sometimes it’s a little fun to get underneath someone else, but it comes to a point where you’re numb to it. Self-reflection, being alone, patience with your healing journey. And that’s on period.”
— Hallie [43:00]

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12. Almost Becoming Reality TV Stars

[62:01 – 62:38]

• Margot and Hallie did an entire Bravo casting for a summer house series about Nantucket.
• Hallie: “They literally had us say ‘We’re the Paris Hilton and Nicole Richie of Nantucket.’”
• COVID derailed the show, but Hallie still wants to do unscripted TV.

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13. Wrap-Up: Friendship and What’s Next

[63:33 – 64:35]

• Hallie and Margot agree: “We could talk for five hours and get canceled…there’s so many stories.”
• Hallie: “Marco, I love you. Thank you for coming on—this won’t be the last!”

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Memorable Quotes

• “We’re gonna be at each other’s funeral.” — Margot [01:22]
• “See the floor? You say one more word and your face will be in the floor.” — Hallie [08:24]
• “I was sucking everyone off my freshman year…I went in with one and ended up with eleven bodies.” — Hallie [18:19]
• “Make all the mistakes you can in college. So like, when you get into the real world, you know what not to do.” — Hallie [55:42]
• “Never let a man tell you you’re too much. Men should celebrate you…If they feel like you’re too much, it’s probably because they don’t feel like they’re enough.” — Hallie [41:48]
• “If you’re deep in it and your friends are telling you, ‘it’s not it,’ usually they’re right.” — Margot [43:22]
• “We could talk for five hours and get canceled.” — Hallie [63:46]

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Episode Timeline Highlights

• [02:05] Margot’s background, meeting Hallie
• [04:30] The infamous bathroom line party blow-up
• [10:19] Parking tickets and campus rule-breaking
• [16:34] Living in “Minerva” and the Sigma Chi hookup roster
• [22:05] Greek life, sorority hazing stories
• [23:56] STD panic and sex talk
• [27:30] Relationship loyalty, calling out men on social media
• [36:01] Toxic boyfriends and gaslighting
• [44:13] Nantucket benders, workplace chaos
• [51:08] College do’s and don’ts
• [62:01] The lost reality TV opportunity

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Takeaways

• Nobody has it figured out in college, and mistakes (sometimes wild, sometimes hilarious) are part of the process.
• Strong female friendships sustain you—as Hallie and Margot show, your real ride-or-die isn’t a frat boy or a “situationship.”
• Greek life isn’t everything, nor is the perfect relationship; be open to change, growth, and chaos.
• Don’t let anyone (in love or friendship) dull your shine.
• And always keep your “funniest, messiest” stories close—someday, they’ll make a killer podcast episode.

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This episode is a must-listen for anyone who’s been to college (or wishes they’d partied harder). Hallie and Margot’s chemistry is their secret sauce—a mix of unfiltered honesty, mutual roasting, and genuine support that makes even the messiest, most embarrassing stories a celebration of survival and sisterhood.

Transcript

[A]

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[B]

And then you find some of your best friends ever. They'll last you for life.

[A]

Yeah, like, we're gonna be at each other's funeral.

[B]

Y.

[A]

You'll probably be at mine, but yeah. What up, you little freaks? Okay, guys, I'm doing something really stupid right now. We have an emergency debrief situation. Hi, this is Hallie from the streets of New York. Guys, I had every intention of staying in last night. Hi, little freaks. Welcome back to Extra Dirty. I have a very exciting guest today, guys. My roommate, Margot, my roommate from college.

[B]

Excited to be here?

[A]

You're excited to be here? Give a little intro. So what's the deal, Margot? Where are you from?

[B]

I'm also from Boston, Massachusetts. North Shore. Allie and I have been friends for, like, 10 years.

[A]

Has it been that long?

[B]

It may be even longer.

[A]

You're aging us.

[B]

Yeah, well, we met the summer before college.

[A]

Okay, so we graduated in 2015. Well, me a little longer because I went to rehab, but I graduated in 2015. Wait, yeah, wait, I went to rehab in high school and college. Wait, 20, 19. Graduated college? Yeah, but I was like, I did that extra semester, right? Trimester. So has it been that long? What's Nine plus six. Six is five. Oh, my God. We graduated six years ago.

[B]

Yeah. We're old.

[A]

We're old. Oh, my God. My tits are going to start sagging soon. But we met before orientation.

[B]

Yes. On.

[A]

No, on Noere in Nantucket. And I remember we're like, in a car. Do you remember this? We're in the car in the parking lot in front of no deer. And you were with your ex boyfriend of the time, and we were all like, drinking. And then we're like, wait, you're going to Union? Wait, I'm going to Union? And then. Yeah, but you were in, like, the special kids program. Program. You were really smart.

[B]

Yeah, well, I got put in the weird dorm.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

On the other side of campus with the other nerds. Because I was in the scholars program.

[A]

Yeah. I was not a scholar. Me and you being best friends and ending up best friends at the end of college was like. Honestly, it was just like an angel and a devil going out together all the time. Because my schedule as a classics in our history minor. What the does that even mean? I was like, oh, like, I'll just, like, do homework when I have midterms and I'll go to the library only when I have midterms. I was going out every night. I was partying every night. I was sleeping till noon. Like, we're on completely different schedules. You had to take, like, 19 classes. I thought you were gonna be a doctor.

[B]

Well, I was pre med, but, yeah, I had a lot of labs. I had long labs. But, like, I would still. I mean, we'd go to like, 30.

[A]

I don't know how you did it.

[B]

We go to 30s on Sunday. And I would, like, bring my textbook, not that I actually read it.

[A]

Wait, I have a picture of this. We're gonna clip this in the thing. No, like, you'd bring the textbook and you'd be smoking the J. And then you'd have the textbook and you'd be like, hey, whoa. And then you'd be like, the nucleus and, like, all the things.

[B]

Yeah. And then I'd wake up at 6am Ripon, Adderall, and then take my exam four hours later.

[A]

Weren't you also, like, in other programs? Like, the only programs I was in in college were rehabilitation programs. Anger management programs. Remember when they made me take it? Anger management?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

I'm done. So I almost got expelled one time in college, and I had to go to court. It was her fault because she cussed out Margo, and I was just defending my girl.

[B]

She cut me in the Bathroom line.

[A]

Which is like, we have to tell the story. I feel like this is a perfect way to kick off the episode.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Okay, so let's paint the picture. I'm gonna say this without trying to get canceled, because this was, like, something I almost got canceled for in college.

[B]

Right. But it's also, like, we were, like, almost trained this way by the older girls who are really mean to us freshman year.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

So it's like a thing in school. Like, older girls, kind of.

[A]

We weren't being mean, though. This girl was nuts, and I will die on that hill.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

Okay. And you're so right. Girls, as an incoming freshman going into college, especially if you're, like, attractive and pretty, it's just, like, a threat. Because I feel like, as a senior, you feel, like, extremely washed up, which is, like, not the case. I, like, laugh at that thought looking back, because I'm like, we're 21.

[B]

And also, I feel like guy friends. Well, at least for us, were like, our friends. So it's not like we had, like, felt like, threatened by freshman girls, but they were. They were.

[A]

They were. I got blacklisted from every sorority because of this, because I was hooking up with the senior the first week.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

That must have had situationships that I didn't know about. But, like, ignorance is my bliss. Like, I didn't know about it. Right. And that's another thing that I will say, like, going into college, you think all the senior boys are really hot, and then you're a senior, and you're like, those are my guy friends. They're literally like that. Just, like, a disgusting body I had. Oh, my God.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

There's so many men I regret hooking up with in college. But anyways, back to the story. So it was like. Was it fall? I want to say I'm trying to paint the real picture.

[B]

It's either fall or spring. All I know is you were in a bomber jacket. Like, you looked like you were.

[A]

I was in one of those, like, fights, feisty moods, too.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Because I used to get in those in college.

[B]

I think maybe I was too that.

[A]

No, you definitely were. But, like, when you're a junior and when you're a senior, you feel like you have, like, seniority. You're an upperclassman. I feel like it's also this way in high school. So you just kind of felt like, this is my house, this is my show, and anyone that walks into it, like. Like you said, we were, like, programmed to think like that.

[B]

Right.

[A]

And, like, kind of like telling like the sophomores in the freshmen, like go themselves kind of vibes. Which shouldn't be the case, but like kind of is the case when you're like in college. Whatever.

[B]

Right?

[A]

So anyways, there was a massive ass line at the biggest house party place Saturday night. And we had just left like I think a beer garden or something situation. Like at someone's birthday party.

[B]

The drinks have been served.

[A]

The drinks have been served. The substances had been done. So we were all like feeling ourselves. Anyways, there was a massive line to the bathroom. And you really had to pee. I like, honestly wasn't even involved in this until I made myself extremely involved. Margo, you were cross eyed. More cross eyed than me at that point. And you were just like kind of like silly. You weren't like being rude about it. You were just kind of like. You just went to the front of the line. There was a line of freshman girls, like out the window.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Oblivious, ignorant, like oblivious to her surroundings. Which is like the kind of drunk you are, right? You're naivete. What's called naivete.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Do you like that naivete? It kind of like comes out and you're just like. Like whatever. Like kind of like a damsel in distress kind of.

[B]

Yeah. Like, this is my friend's bathroom.

[A]

Yeah. You're like, this is my bathroom. Like, what are you doing? This freshman girl starts cussing you out.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

She starts getting in her face. The fuck. You fucking bitch. You think you're the fucking motherfucking mother shit motherfucker. And I was like, oh my.

[B]

You're like. You do not talk to my friend that way.

[A]

I saw, I go, let me get involved. How do I insert myself and make this about me? I walk in, I go, marco, who is talking like that? Who is talking to you like that right now? What did I say?

[B]

A good friend, Very little. I think you just like, you like heard her like come at me and I was like, what? Literally just like, you know, very much so. Put her in her place. Being like, what? You see the floor?

[A]

Oh, wait, yeah, that was an all time code. I go see the floor. You say one more word on your face in the floor will be your face.

[B]

You don't shut them.

[A]

Yeah, so anyway, she told campus police, she told Campo that I assaulted her.

[B]

We went to court.

[A]

We went to court. She was a witness. This was the craziest shit ever. Like, I was so stressed out because I actually didn't like, I. It wasn't an actually assault her. Right, but you had a lot of facing 10 points.

[B]

And you already had a lot of points because of the parking tickets, which is a whole nother story.

[A]

So, like, to explain, I went to Union College. Well, we went to Union College. They have a point system. So, like, getting caught drinking underage, one to two points. Or like, little things, like, points could add up. You could also, like, do things to get points taken off. And like, you can't get 10 points. 10 points is like you're facing. You're getting. You're getting expelled. So that's either fights, which some of our friends got expelled for that, like getting into fist fights. They took that very seriously. Or like, anything like section 8. Like someone like, anything that to do with, like, rape or sexual. Anything like that. That was 10 points. So the fact that I got email, it was like, what was the email? I need to find this fucking email. It was like aggravated assaults.

[B]

And I was like, you had to, like, go to counseling.

[A]

I had to go to anger management.

[B]

And like, we. You pulled up in a full suit. We had, like, notes, we had binders. We were ready to like. You were not getting suspended or expelled.

[A]

I also, like, paid full tuition. They were not suspending my ass anyways. But I took it so seriously. I had an opening argument.

[B]

Yep.

[A]

I. I had witnesses and I had a closing statement. And she was trying to cuss me out. The whole.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Thing. Do you remember that?

[B]

Yeah. And then she transferred. She.

[A]

She transferred. She ended up like, the whole situation was so messy.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

We had to talk about the parking, too.

[B]

The parking was absurd. I mean, Halle would get like six parking tickets in one day. Because we would, like, drive to, like, and our campus was tiny. Like, we didn't need to be driving, but we would drive everywhere.

[A]

It was. Driving was like. Driving is like an activity.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

In college.

[B]

And there was nowhere to ever, like, park. So Hallie would just kind of like pull over to the side, just random.

[A]

Places and literally up on the field.

[B]

I think one day. You got seven tickets in one day.

[A]

There's a video. We're gonna clip this all because you have a video of me, like, with five parking tickets in my face and I'm waving myself. Because it would all just get built. My dad, I remember, like, I was supposed to get new tires, like, sick, like, blacked out tires, blacked out rims, like, all that. And then he got like a 10 grand parking bill for that semester. Not to mention insane. He was like, you, you piece of.

[B]

Campbell would also, like, target your car because, like, your license plate literally was.

[A]

Like ACB number one.

[B]

Like, There was no mistake.

[A]

It hurt.

[B]

It was every day and we'd be.

[A]

Blasting like, like the craziest music with our Starbucks being like, no wonder the seniors hated pedal pricks.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

But like, we were so fun.

[B]

It was fun.

[A]

What was like, your first impression of me?

[B]

You were orientation, definitely.

[A]

Like, I feel like freshman year, that one, that first trimester was really difficult on me. Do you remember I slept on the bean bag of Lauren and Katie's room down the hall?

[B]

Yes.

[A]

You did not stay with your roommate. Well, cuz my ex cheated on me and I was definitely like, I'm definitely like not someone that's good with change. Any change, any shift, even like change of like weather, change of season. It like affects me emotionally and I know that. So like going to college, obviously that's like a massive leap. You're like leaving the nest. And like I was leaving a relationship, I was on tumultuous grounds of like that relationship as well. So like things were just kind of like the unknown, the ambiguity of college just kind of like freaked me out. Right. Got cheated on within like 10 minutes of college.

[B]

I did too well right before it.

[A]

Oh my God. Sisters and cheating.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

I feel like everyone does going into college in a relationship. It's very hard in hindsight. Know hindsight's always 20 20, but like, I would never do that again.

[B]

I agree it's hard to have that lens when you go into it, but I feel like there's very few people that actually, unfortunately, I know like one.

[A]

Girl that married her high school sweetheart.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And like they had been together since they were like 14. So I was like, you kind of like, have to, I guess. Like, I would feel like you're wasting it all this time if you didn't marry them. Life gets packed fast. Between school drop offs, long work days, travel, and social plans, the calendar barely leaves room to breathe. Even the fun stuff can feel like just another item on the to do list. When life's full of time's tight, Instacart helps you stay on track. Instacart is more than a grocery app. It's a care company that works around your schedule. Get groceries and household essentials delivered in as fast as 30 minutes. Whether you're hosting a barbecue, you getting back from a trip, or juggling back to school chaos with reliable shoppers and a platform you can count on, Instacart delivers quality and convenience without cutting corners, so you can focus on what matters most. I once used Instacart in a pinch to grab SD cards for my podcast after realizing I was completely out of them the night before a big interview. It saved me a last minute trip and kept my episode on schedule. Download the Instacart app. You use code EXTRADINY20 to get $20 off your first order of $80 or more. That's code EXTRADINTY20 to get $20 off your first of $80 or more offer valid for a limited time. Excludes restaurants. Additional term supply. As summer winds down, it's time to refresh your wardrobe with staple pieces for the season ahead. Quince nails it with luxe essentials that feel effortless and look polished. Perfect for layering and mixing. Their styles are so versatile, you'll find yourself reaching for them again and again. Think chic cashmere in cotton sweaters starting at just $40. Washable silk tops and classic denim pants. Timeless styles you'll keep coming back to the best part. Everything with Quince is half the cost of similar brands. You guys know I'm such a big glassware fanatic. Recently I got some wine glasses from Quint's. They fit perfectly with my collect look adorable in my kitchen cabinet. I'm obsessed. Elevate your fall wardrobe essentials with quince. Go to quince.com/strongy for free shipping on your order in 365 day returns. That's Q-U-I-N-C E.com/strongly to get free shipping and 365 day returns. Quince.com/strongly but anyways, I got cheated on 10 minutes in college. Do you remember how that all went down? Were you with us?

[B]

I don't think so. I think I came on. I came really onto the scene. Like maybe do you remember my freshman year? Yes.

[A]

She hated me. Nicole, I'm sorry. I was a really bad roommate because I was messy and I was just like kind of like I didn't give a. I never contributed to the room.

[B]

And she was like an athlete. Like I don't think she went out.

[A]

A lot and like she was a basketball player. Never went out and I was like stumbling sometimes.

[B]

You would have me come and sleep over in your twin bed because my like separation. My dorm was across campus. It was so far and it was scary to walk home at night because we had doids and you were throwing up in the bed. In our twin bed. I'm sleeping in it too. I'm like Allie.

[A]

So there was this one time where we got super up on like Pink Whitney and or like Raspberry Svetka. Yeah, it was like early on into college I Remember it so clear, and I was so sick. I threw up in the bed. And I remember wake up in the middle of night. I tried to blame you.

[B]

You were like, you. Why'd you throw up? Like, hell yeah. I didn't throw up. You threw up. And I'm sleeping in it. And Nicole's probably like, what's going on? Oh, we were crazy also one time. Well, this was in the menswerva. We should talk about the menswear.

[A]

Explain to them what the minswerva is.

[B]

So sophomore year, we. We had like, a group of, like, what was it, five or six girls?

[A]

The squad. So we hot ass.

[B]

Yeah. We couldn't all live together. And they were gon in, like, one of the good dorms where a lot of, like, sophomores live. But for some reason, I had the option to live in a Minerva, which are these, like, buildings that are honestly way nicer and newer, but they're kind of like a club. Like, they do good things for campus and such. We weren't really part of one. We were just able to live in.

[A]

One because of my GPA and my points.

[B]

Right.

[A]

I couldn't really do anything on campus.

[B]

Right.

[A]

I had to, like, give back to the community at one point.

[B]

Yes. But. But I was granted the Minerva. So I was like, let's live in Minerva.

[A]

I have to take Halloween.

[B]

Like, and like, no one, like, of all the people that we knew when we're, like, social and went out, like, no one lived in the Manuras. Like, everyone lived in Fox. That's, like, what's fun. That's where you, like, live. But I. We thought it'd be fun.

[A]

The best decision we ever made.

[B]

Yes. And we, like, made it cool. And we called it the Minerva.

[A]

High ceilings, quiet, newer, nice bathrooms, newer. Your own little, like, study dorms, like, kitchen, TV room. It was like the perfect scenario. Like, a piano was downstairs.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

No one wanted to live in them because it, like, wasn't cool. Just like.

[B]

Because it wasn't like a party dorm, but it was, like, way nicer.

[A]

Also, I wasn't in a sorority.

[B]

Right.

[A]

You were?

[B]

Yes.

[A]

I, like, honestly had it all backwards. I wasn't allowed to do anything. I was barely allowed to wipe my own ass. They wouldn't let me in the sorority because my gpa. Because I didn't know you had to go to class in college. I thought it was just like the movies. I thought you, like, didn't have to go.

[B]

You were getting your degree in.

[A]

I was partying. I was trying to, like, build rapport with the senior boys.

[B]

Which you did.

[A]

Which I did. By the way. I was sucking everyone off my freshman year. I went in with like one and ended up with like 11 bodies that by the end of the year.

[B]

Yeah. Remember the roster?

[A]

We have to explain the Sigma Chi roster.

[B]

I still have it, you know, it's under my bed.

[A]

No, I need a picture of it. So what, what we did is we had like, so every fraternity or sorority class would have like a big class picture, kind of like a yearbook. But it would be like everyone in the pledge class and like above. So like seniors, juniors, sophomores, everyone in that frat. And we printed it out somehow we acquired a copy. I think we stole it from one of our victims.

[B]

Yeah. And like between all the girls, like we had a decent friend group and like we obviously always hung out with this brat. So we just decided that we should start like crossing them off.

[A]

When someone, someone hooks up with them, the whole. The whole page is sharpied out.

[B]

Yeah, it's at least three fourths of it is gone.

[A]

Fourth? Is it like. Yeah, it's like absolutely gone. But I used to like hook up with guys just to like hang out with you guys, remember?

[B]

Yes. Like you would look at the roster and you'd be like, who lives on the third floor? Okay, I'm going home with them tonight. Just so we can have Starbucks runs in the morning.

[A]

Well, because I just wanted to like go to Starbucks with you guys in the morning and like have like a little Kiki. Like, like I didn't want to have fomo.

[B]

I know. I mean it was so.

[A]

And Lauren were hooking up with the same guy, like same grade in Sigma Kai. Right. And I was like, I need to find a guy in Sigma Kai. And they're great on that floor. So I did.

[B]

It was great.

[A]

And I remember that one night. Cuz we all wanted to wake up there that one morning. And Sigma Kai is disgusting.

[B]

It is.

[A]

The amount of times I've slept there though. Disgusting. So gross. I like literally should be illegal. It should like break a lot of health hazard codes. But anyways, I remember we went into like what's his face's room and everyone was like smoking weed. And this was like during our weed era.

[B]

We were stoners for like we were stoners.

[A]

But I was also like a pick me stoner. Like I wasn't like getting high to like, I didn't like it. I would get high and be like, ah. And then like I like would hate it. I would just like trying to like be cool and like, take, like, selfies and, like, post it to, like, my Snapchat stories.

[B]

Yeah, but, like, you. You had a full bong in the menswer. And, like, we had papers. We would, like, try to roll. We were really bad at it.

[A]

We didn't know we would practice rolling before. Like, before going to bed instead of doing homework or, like, writing papers. I was like, how do I roll to be cool in front of these Sigma Kai boys? If, like, that, like, crosses our paths? Eventually, yeah. But anyways was like, do you want to hit the bong? And I was like, yeah. We hadn't hooked up yet. And it was like, all of us in a room, and you guys dispersed into your own rooms. And I was, like, alone, high as a kite. And then I just remember his hairy ass, like, pummeling on top of me.

[B]

Oh, no.

[A]

I was, like, just, like, overthinking the whole thing. And it was, like, really, like, my mouth was like, cotton, you know, like, cotton mouth.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

It was dry. Like, there was no sloppy in my toppy.

[B]

That sounds really scary.

[A]

It was like, a horrifying experience. But you know what made up for it? It was best. I got to wake up the next day with you guys.

[B]

And we always went to Starbucks.

[A]

We always drove to Starbucks or Whole Foods and got mochi balls.

[B]

You also paid the Starbucks mortgage.

[A]

I think I want to, like, see if I can find that bill.

[B]

No, like, we went every day, and sometimes you would go two to three times a day.

[A]

I love a macho. I love.

[B]

We were good friends with the barista. We'd, like, FaceTime him from the Cody.

[A]

What else? I wanted to talk more about sorority life. So you were in Delta Delta, and I. They wouldn't let me in for a multitude of reasons. But honestly, it worked out because you guys ended up getting kicked off campus.

[B]

Yes. It didn't survive.

[A]

Did you get haze there? Like, I never was a part of anything.

[B]

No.

[A]

And that's why there was a one hazing thing that was, like, barely hazing. I do want to read the listeners the STD hazing thing from, like, 2013. Yeah, that was, like, a big thing. I'm going to read an excerpt of some of the shit they went through. Have you ever read this article or maybe. All right, I'm going to read it to you in the class. Everyone take a seat. What about your popcorn? All the sisters sat in dark. We couldn't see anything. But they could see all of us in our every imperfection. The sisters who wanted to be amused and make us cry asked Us ridiculous and mean questions. Do your sexiest dance, they once demanded. Why aren't you working hard enough? Why are you doing that? You look so stupid. Well, of course I look stupid. I was was gyrating by myself under a spotlight while another pledge pretended to be a stripper pole. Why do you think you're better than us? Was commonly asked. Who was the prettiest sister in the room? Which one of us is a lesbian? And why do you think that at any given lineup, at least a third of my pledge class cried? That's fucking crazy. That was sdg.

[B]

No way.

[A]

I also heard that they did that thing where like they would have to watch lesbian porn and sit on a basketball and see if they got wet or not. That was a thing. Also I heard that they did the thing where they circled all their like fat fat on the washing machine. But the big thing was one girl in the pledge class would pretend to be a stripper pole under a spotlight in the middle of the room while the other would like pretend to like do like a sexy stripper pole dance in front of the whole sorority.

[B]

That's crazy.

[A]

I would cry. I would throw up everywhere. Sdt. What a crazy little name.

[B]

Stt.

[A]

Std.

[B]

Std.

[A]

STG is what we used to get in college.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

I only got one. Oh, tell the story of that one time you got yours.

[B]

Yeah, this was the her sophomore year when we were living in Ant.

[A]

I hadn't gotten one yet.

[B]

Well, neither had I. And I was seeing the same guy. But like I was kind of. We were kind of a situationship and like in the summer I go home and like kind of see my ex. It was like kind of what a weird thing have to seeing him. So like I'd seen both of them and I'm literally like, we're shopping and like salt and like I get a random call and I pick it up and it's like my doctor and they're like hi, like you have like chlamydia. And like me never having an std. DT std before being like 19, I was like shaking like, oh my God, like my life's over. But I like didn't know what to do because I was like. I don't know if it came from like college boy or like my ex boyfriend. So basically I had to like inform them both because I'm a good human being and like, I'm not going to tell them that one of them probably also has this. So Hallie and I like crafted a text or Hallie drafted it for me. To send at least one of them. And basically the text was she had to use a random name. So she was like, so basically being like, barack Obama gave you chlamydia and you gave it to me?

[A]

And then I like, blurred out the name so it looked like someone had sent me the text being like, oh, so and so. But like, they wouldn't have known which guy we were talking about.

[B]

Right.

[A]

It was honestly brilliant. She was like, yeah, that's crazy. I didn't get chlamydia until post college. Shockingly enough. Wow.

[B]

At least it's just one pill. It goes away. But your first time, first std, it's not fun.

[A]

Scary. But I don't really gets. I feel like you don't really get chlamydia symptoms.

[B]

No, it's only bad if it goes untreated. You could be like, infertile.

[A]

We don't want that. Also, like, I mean, me personally, I never had to deal with hazing. I would never have tolerated it. If A was telling me, like an older girl was like, how I do this, I would say, shut the up, Becky. You would imagine one of those girls telling me what to do. Get me, get me a meal, do my homework, do my laundry. I would say, you, you lazy ass piece of.

[B]

Yeah, do your own laundry.

[A]

Do your own laundry. Lazy ass. But so dumb. So insane. I just feel like I had to share that.

[B]

I think it. I mean, obviously they used to haze, but like our year, they were so careful because basically they were like trying to kick Greek life off our campus. And so we literally, like, I honestly wish we got hazed because I do think there's like an extent of like bonding in hazing as long as it's not terrible. But it's like you're in a room for an hour with a bunch of girls and you're like sorting sprinkles or something.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

We would have to sit there and like, literally we called it new member education. And they would like teach us about try it out and maybe like taking notes. Like, it was like class. I was like, this sucks and I'm not bonding. And you'd pay and you'd pay and.

[A]

I like, didn't have to pay and like, could do go to the same parties besides, like the pre game to like some of the mixers.

[B]

Right. But we were like, we'd always have. Or a lot of our mixers were with like Sig Kai who were all our friends. So they would just let you come. And like, obviously the guys were hosting.

[A]

Yeah, the girls would hate that when I would just show up, remember they'd be like, this is here and she's not paying her dues. I was like, you, Becky in the back.

[B]

But that also goes back to like, we were like hated as freshman girls.

[A]

We were heated forever. And then we, we'd be like, bully the older girls, remember, tell the story.

[B]

So there's this guy that I was.

[A]

Like seeing on John Tucker must die, because that's what we referred to him.

[B]

Yes, there are Instagram loyal.

[A]

I was too. I was a loyal ass down ass.

[B]

No, Halle is the most loyal friend you will ever come across.

[A]

It's true. Don't cross my house, love. I'll cross you up.

[B]

Especially with guys on and off with this guy for like first two years of college. And like there were always issues every time we'd like hear something else or something would happen. Like Halle would like take it to social media. She'd like post a hot Instagram of us and be like, John Tucker must die.

[A]

I'll be like these loser ass men at the guy she was seeing. Like, I would always take it to social media to the point where like his friends knew I was supposed to be in it.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

I was like, I need to be messy online for a second. I had like how many followers?

[B]

Like really?

[A]

1500.

[B]

1500.

[A]

And I was like, everyone needs to see this.

[B]

But his friends would like DM you being like, you need to chill. Like, let's like, let's not take this.

[A]

To like the public, the socials. I'd be like, you too.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Remember when he pulled out vibrators? Sorry, I was just thinking about that friend. I'll get to that after.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Remind me about the vibrator story because this is really important. Also remind me around the world.

[B]

Yeah, but like senior year there was this girl who's in another story or sorry, it wasn't our senior, sophomore year. His senior year, he literally went to the same like middle school as me. So. And she was always like super in support of like me and this guy, they were in the same grade. He had like just gone to or I just went to like his formal or something and then like she asked him to like her like sorority formal as like a friend.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

So I'm like, whatever. Probably shouldn't have been like whatever, but like she's always been like, so support of our relationship and whatever we find out.

[A]

You also wanted to be like, oh, I'm so cool with that. Like, I'm totally fine with that. Yeah, she was like a pretty girl too. You just wanted to be like, oh, I'm totally chill with that.

[B]

Like, we've all been there because we weren't, like, official.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Situationship that lasted for two years. Yeah. Three, four.

[A]

You will rue probably misses you now.

[B]

But anyway, word got back somehow. I forget who it was from. I feel like it was from.

[A]

It was from other senior girls. We were sophomores at the time.

[B]

Okay. Yeah. But we got word that, like, she gave him head on the bus.

[A]

Like, the fat bus on the way.

[B]

To the function or coming home or something. So basically, somehow we, like, get confirmation about this. Like, the girl is texting me, apologizing. But, like, my big. And my sorority is, like, in their grade, and, like, she's on our side. All the senior girls are, like, in my sorority are on our side. And it, like, gets to a whole point. This kind of comes back to, like.

[A]

The girls with this heavy. And, like, that girl ended up being really weird and creepy.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And, like, wasn't in, like, a cool friend group, in my opinion.

[B]

So we were, like, out one night, and, like, these girls, like, also had my back. And, like. And the other girl, the mistress, was at the party. Like, the senior girls are being like, she's over there.

[A]

What was I saying? There was that one. You were, like, sitting in the senior guy's room.

[B]

Allie's like, a sophomore sitting in the room, looking at her being, like, a senior girl, being.

[A]

You're a. You're a. And you're a. Yeah. And you all rue, like, what?

[B]

And they did. Yeah.

[A]

She was wrong for that, though.

[B]

That was. Yeah.

[A]

Not.

[B]

That was not cool.

[A]

Yeah. But anyways, like, I feel like we kiki'd with the seniors. I feel like it's always like, senior, sophomore. We did not get along with great above and the great below.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Although the. The boys above us like dust. Clearly, I was sucking everyone off because they hate me. I just, like, this came to mind. This is, like, one of my first experiences with the guy. Like, introducing a vibrator into a room. And I think they had, like, bulk ordered them. Remember one night that they did that.

[B]

Yeah, but, like, why are you using, like, one vibrator with multiple girls?

[A]

No, that's what I'm saying.

[B]

I think they were new, though, when they used them on you.

[A]

I. I'm telling myself that because they.

[B]

Did say they just ordered it.

[A]

I know, but, like, they would say that to us.

[B]

Right?

[A]

But this guy whips out a vibrator and, like, is it okay to, like, whip out a vibrator in your room? Like, that's meant for girls, clearly. As a guy, like, what do you think about that? Because I was kind of like, you're for the streets. But then again, I was like. I was like, legs of it there. I was like, I'm for the streets.

[B]

I think it depends. I feel like now that we're more mature and like, smart, I kind of be like, you, like, where is that? Like, unless you're like my boyfriend. What all about this. Yeah. But then I feel like it's like, okay, like, this is fun and like, maybe you, like, know what you're doing or like, you're into like, my pleasure.

[A]

Yeah. And I think if I was a freshman and like a junior, like this thing with the word junior, I was like, oh my God, they're so hot. And like senior boys, like, if they whips out a vibrator, I'd be like, sure. Like, I'm down. Like, you also don't want to, like, be like, not down to, like, try, like, things.

[B]

Although I feel like as a freshman, I would be scared if they were.

[A]

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[B]

I would say your last one was loyal.

[A]

Me?

[B]

You know him? Yes, he was. The table's kind of flipped.

[A]

Well, why was I not loyal?

[B]

I mean you were, you were loyal until the end when it was no longer like it was clearly not how.

[A]

It wasn't gonna anymore.

[B]

It was on its way out.

[A]

He started like he. I was a bad girlfriend though. I was mean, there was abrasive, I was toxic. I wanted to fight, I. But he wouldn't have sex with me.

[B]

Right.

[A]

And that was like a big thing for me.

[B]

I mean that's huge. Especially for like a guy not to want that. It's like. And you know like that like your ego. It's like why like guys always want that.

[A]

And I'm like. I was like he has to be guy. I still think that but like he has to be Guy. And I'm, like, the horniest person on earth. Like, I'll hump like a thermostat if it's on loud. So I was like, this is not working. He was also so sweet and kind and, like.

[B]

You'D call her chicken. Chicken.

[A]

He called me chicken.

[B]

And he'd be, like, silly with us. We kind of were like, a throuple. Not actually. I was just, like, always there. Like, they'd have quality time and, like, I'd be there, too.

[A]

Yeah. He was, like, honestly, a really good friend. But, like, I was like, we're just best friends that I can't sleep with other people with. Right.

[B]

And then, like, our house senior year was really scary, so he'd have to come sleep over in us three with.

[A]

And we still wouldn't have sex. But, like, the fact that he lived right down the street and we were seeing each other, like, not every day, and we'd have sex, like, once every three weeks.

[B]

Yeah, that wasn't good.

[A]

That's not good, right? No, I wasn't making that up in my mind.

[B]

No. I mean, everything was so valid. You just have a funny way of going about it. I was aggressive and mad at him.

[A]

Crazy. The amount of, like, blowout fights, broken iPhones, like, I'm a psycho ass when it comes, like, really down to it. Like, I would lose my mind over this man. Not because I, like, thought he had a leg up. I had the leg up.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

Like, I. He was my. But it was because I was, like, trying to, like, make a statement, hoping that we'd have this, like, big blowout, like, hot and heavy fight, and then we'd have makeup sex and. No, he just resented me after. Right? Am I reading that right?

[B]

But I do think you had worse reactions in your first relationship. Remember when you punched my mirror?

[A]

Oh, my God, I forgot about that. I saw the scar, man. I might be aggressive.

[B]

We have a picture of that, too.

[A]

I was. Oh, wait, we do have a picture of that. Because I. You were hooking up with that guy, and you had to come pick me up from.

[B]

There was blood.

[A]

He would call me. He would emotionally torment me. This man had me so sideways and, like, had me so forgetting, like, who the I was to the, like. It was emotional manipulation. It was gaslighting. Before I even knew what gaslighting was, he would take my insecurities, my weaknesses, and use them as emotional warfare. That's what he would do to, like, with my head. So even if he wanted me one day and didn't want me the next, Day he would know that he could do whatever the he wanted because he knew how to pinpoint my, like, insecurities and where I would fold, right? And that's just like how it worked. And I wasn't. I was in a time in my life where, you know, I was in the depths of like, really deep eating stuff, fresh out of rehab. He was there with me through the whole rehab thing. He cheated on me when I was in rehab. He, like, knew what I would go back to, what I would tolerate. Knew what, Like, I was down bad about myself, like all these things. And it would just like use it against me. He would call me every day being like, hi, it's time to break up again. It would be like Friday, every Friday when he wanted to like, go and have fun time on the weekend. He like, I don't think this is working. And I think he also be like, I think you're a. I think you're a. I think you, like, make you. You're a wannabe. You wanna be known. Like, I forget what are some of the things he used to say to me.

[B]

It just was very gaslighter ish and like, basically like, instead of like loving and accepting the person that you're with, like, he was definition of like, I want you to change. Like, this is who you are and I don't like it. I want you to be this like, little prairie girl. Yeah. Which just wasn't.

[A]

I remember he just like always resented me. I remember even when I got my first car at 16, he was like, I can't believe your parents are like, that they would do that. Like, that's disgusting. I'm like. I'm like, what? Yeah, like, it's my birthday and you're cussing me out for a birthday present I got from my parents.

[B]

Like, be excited for me.

[A]

He was pissed. They got me a Range Rover Evoke.

[B]

That's like.

[A]

And he was like, that is such trash ass, disgusting behavior. And I was like, who are you? You have braces.

[B]

He really is on his, like, high ground of like, morality.

[A]

Like, he thought he's right with the Bible on Dash, king of morals.

[B]

But then he cheats on you. So.

[A]

Yeah, with ugly ass.

[B]

Ass.

[A]

Troll ass. Yeah.

[B]

Anywho.

[A]

Anywho. Sorry, I just got. But yeah, there was a couple times where I would get like, you're right. The college boyfriend was definitely a lot kinder and nicer. Have you seen me be with any guys since then that, like, you, like, think we're nice or chill?

[B]

I think college boy was nicest. Boy you've ever been with. But I think that, like, while you need a nice boy, you also need someone that. That won't just let you walk all over them, you know, that's gonna, like, stand their ground.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

But I do think they'll be a nice boy, not, like, a manipulator.

[A]

I agree.

[B]

Player boy.

[A]

Just for, like, younger girls listening, you know, We've all been there. If you are in a similar situation, I feel like you have to, like, drop that guy immediately. I mean, it's so much easier said than done. And I wish, looking back, like, I wish I could just, like, hug younger me. Like, there were so many times, I think about, like, times on Nantucket, we're just sobbing, feeling like I wasn't good enough, and just feeling like I wasn't the puzzle piece that was, like, supposed to, like. You know what I mean? Like, he tried to make me a different puzzle piece.

[B]

Yes. He tried to change you. And that should never be the case. Like, there's one thing to, like, grow and grow with your partner and both, like, become better, but they shouldn't try to completely, like, change you.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And.

[A]

And also, like, it's out of their insecurities if a man is threatened by, like, things that you're doing or your personality, you being too much. Like, never let a man tell you, like, you're too much. Right. Man. Men should celebrate you. Like, your partner should celebrate you for that, in my opinion. And if they feel like you're too much, it's probably because they don't feel like they're enough. And, like, that's their own battle. And that's, like, something they have to deal with. And, like, they're putting their own insecurities on you.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And I think it was a lot of that, too.

[B]

Yes. And cheating is the same thing. Like, if someone cheats, like, it usually has nothing to do with the actual person and more to do with, like, themselves and their own insecurities.

[A]

Yeah. And I will say, even me when I cheated, because I've been. I've been. I'm in both boots. And I do know that times that I've cheated was never in a time where I've felt like I was getting with someone that was better than my partner. I felt like I needed validation at a time I was super insecure and I just needed, like, sex to validate me. And I've, like, gone about sex a lot like that where, like, I use it as validation during, like, lulls in my life. Times of insecurity instead of like taking the time to like be by myself and look within. I feel like I just like whore out. And you said that's like a band aid and it doesn't always work. Sometimes it's a little fun to get underneath someone else. But like, like it comes to a point where you're like, you're numb to it and you just. It won't heal. You won't fix anything. Self reflection, being alone and just like patience with your healing journey. And that's on period.

[B]

And I think leaning on your friends, if you have good friends, usually they have your best interest in heart and like if they're listen to your friends, if you're really deep in it and they're telling you like it's not it. I mean, don't always take everything your friends say. But I think it goes a long way. And I think towards the end of certain situations, like, usually your friends are like, it's time to stop when it should have a long time ago. And the people you love, your parents.

[A]

You see yell at me all the time. Just like, this is so annoying.

[B]

Because it's easier to see when you're not in it. I mean, when you're in it, you're in love. You have like the love goggles on and like you're in some cases like being manipulated. You can't like see or think clearly.

[A]

I was a full spiral case.

[B]

It's hard. We've all been there.

[A]

But it was like kind of fun.

[B]

We went to Handlebar a lot.

[A]

We did go to Handlebar a lot.

[B]

Hell, used to always get dumped at this one coffee shop, Nantucket. Honestly, best coffee in Nantucket. My favorite to this day. But I think it might give you some PTSD triggers.

[A]

Me, because my ex boyfriend, for people that don't know, he also worked out on Nantucket for multiple summers renting. Not owning, but like he was out there being a freak. I was so obsessed with him. But like he would text me. We like, we'd hook up. I'd give him the best sloppiest toppy of his life and then he text me like the next day being like, I think we should meet at Handlebar Cafe. And we'd always know we would go.

[B]

Like before work and I just wait in the car and I'd be like, like at him the bar again.

[A]

Margo would wait outside before work for preface. Margot lived with me in Nantucket for like three summers in a row. Yeah, we used to work together as hostesses and then like we didn't really work Much. We'd party. We were alcoholics. That one.

[B]

We were. Well, two summers. The summers we lived there, we 100 were. And we had all the same shifts. So they'd call us like the dream team. So we would just like go out every night.

[A]

Like three shifts a night. We'd have three shifts a week. And like, we'd work like three hours a night.

[B]

It was like four to nine.

[A]

It was four to nine. I remember that one summer I made five, like 300 bucks. Yeah, that was really scary. But they would call us the Doom Team. And then we'd just go out every night on a full bender, wake up shaking, go to the beach, get crossfaded at the beach, go to our shift up, go to the bathroom every 10 minutes to rip the Jewel. This is when the Jewel first came out.

[B]

Let's preface this with Hallie. I was out there running around, busting my ass. I'd be like, where's?

[A]

Probably like, where's Hallie?

[B]

I have all these tables. I'm like, I don't know. She's in the bathroom smoking to Jewel.

[A]

I'd be like, on FaceTime with my ex.

[B]

Like. Or you'd be like, behind the bar. And, like, the bartenders would be like, giving you shots because they were like, they like, loved you. And I was like, all right. I'm just running around. I'm like, busting tables with Sammy. I'm like, sammy, I don't know where Ally is. Yeah, but it's fine.

[A]

We had such a good time.

[B]

You were good company.

[A]

And we go to Gaslight. Remember that time you had a seizure at Gaslight?

[B]

Yeah, that was really scary.

[A]

I got a full blown seizure.

[B]

I just kind of like collapsed. I mean, I don't remember it. But you remember it because you caught me.

[A]

You were convulsing on the ground. I don't know what happened prior to that. I. I think.

[B]

I think I just, like, gave, like, looked at you and you were like.

[A]

You just looked at me. We're about to order a drink and like, you just collapsed. And I was like, waiter, Margo's seizing on the floor. And they had to like, pull you out of there.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And then we, like, went out after.

[B]

Yeah. And then they called me Lilies. Then we just made a joke out of it.

[A]

The whole summer was lilies because of it. Oh, my God. When you had a full blown seizure?

[B]

Yeah, it's fine. I got MRIs and stuff. I think I just fainted. But, like, I definitely convulsed.

[A]

Wait, remember more in a. With A foursome couple.

[B]

That was really fun.

[A]

That was the best summer ever.

[B]

Yep.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Was that. That was after senior year, right? That was, I think, our darkest summer. Like sophomore year. We were like.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Cute and young and like working at Sandbar and we were like 17. 17.

[A]

Yeah, 17. And then we were 19 at the last summer.

[B]

Or no, maybe we were. We were definitely of age at the last summer. I think we were 19 and then like 21, 22. But the last summer was like, worse because we, like, had just graduated. Like, I was nannying and I forget what job you were doing. Maybe salt, but, like, it was a full blown. Like, that was like the most anxiety I've ever had in my entire life.

[A]

Because I was losing drink every day. And we. We were hooking up with these two best friends, which is, by the way, is the most fun thing ever. Like, if you have the opportunity in college or whatever to like, hook up with like, best friends and like, just like, have like a summer rendezvous fling. Yes, I remember because then I went back to school and I was like, so hung up on JT and I had to like, dump the other guy. Right.

[B]

You just, like, broke his heart and then he, like, went sober after. And now he's married.

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[B]

Okay.

[A]

Okay. First one is don't think your first friend group will be your friend group for college. I fully agree with that.

[B]

I agree with that as well. I think it takes time to make friends and you should be open to everyone and then you'll find your people.

[A]

Yeah, but don't like it's rare almost to like have your friend group like leak into like, I mean we kind of got lucky but we all knew each other kind of before.

[B]

Right.

[A]

But like once you can decide who you want to like live with and like you go classes and you have like different like dining hall. It's like a place to socialize. Like you just meet people. We went to a very small school too. Right.

[B]

But I also, I feel like my first friend group was very much like Mike's. My dorm.

[A]

They were all like margon, go to the laboratory with us in the morning. Marlowe's, like, has like nine guys in her bedroom, like, thrusting her from all sides. She's like, no.

[B]

That is not true. But I will say that I had. Didn't have as much in common with my biochemistry classmates.

[A]

So, Margo, can I do your homework?

[B]

Can I borrow your molecules for.

[A]

Again, this molecule is currently in Tommy's right now.

[B]

But then I found you guys, so things evolve. Give it. Give it a year.

[A]

That comes to the next one. Do eat in the cafeteria even though you will gain like £19.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

I look thicker my freshman year. I think that was the heaviest weight I'll ever be.

[B]

I mean, it's hard, I feel like, not to gain the freshman 15. You want to.

[A]

It's part of the thing.

[B]

Yeah. You've, like, constant access.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And like, you're drinking. You're probably hungover, drunk, eating.

[A]

I would say do drink clear liquids instead of Svedka. Pink Whitney, all that. Like, stay away from that. It won't help your hangover. And I trust me, you can't drink pink, Whitney. After the age of 20, your hangover, you'll die.

[B]

Sugary vodkas is bad.

[A]

Drink kettle one. Don't drink grey Goose because it tastes like dog clip that. And like any clear tequila. Casamigos is also good. And patron. Next. Do find a party slash study balance. Do you think I had that when I was cracked out on Adderall, though? I was locked the in. You could tear me away from the library.

[B]

I mean, before finals, we would be there, like, around the clock.

[A]

My job would be swinging from the adorabic. Obviously, I want to be a scientist. Oh, like run through a wall during final season. Like, I literally. We would be like this cracked out. I couldn't feel my face. I was numb from the waist up from Aderall. And then we'd like, drive looking like this to get coffee. To get coffee or matcha. We'd lose like £10 in a week because we had no appetite.

[B]

Yes. I mean, definitely find a balance. I don't know if we had the best one, considering, like, I would study four hours before my examination.

[A]

I passed.

[B]

But I had the same.

[A]

I like, figured it out. But I was by the time I was senior. But there was some bio I was not good at. I got D in bio. Remember that water class I took? Remember I saved all my classes I had to take until senior year and I take all the hardest ones my last semester. Trimester.

[B]

Yeah. Don't do that.

[A]

Don't do that. Don't be a Halle.

[B]

Get the Harmons out easy, take fresh, get a good GPA freshman year, because that will set you up for success.

[A]

And then the rest of college post senior spring.

[B]

And you need that good GPA freshman.

[A]

Year to get into a sore.

[B]

Do the things you want to do. Go abroad.

[A]

Yeah, I couldn't do any of that. All right, next. Do remember that sometimes your parents are wrong. Yeah. Yeah, I feel like that that just applies to everything in life. Honestly, though. But I think what they mean here is, like, I just remember going to college and, like, my parents would just be, like, pressing, like, their own experience on me. I'm like, you don't fucking get it. This is my own experience. Mind your fucking business. Right.

[B]

And I feel like that's a chance to, like, actually discover, like, who you are and, like, your own opinions and not just have to, like, you're out of the everything that you've been taught your whole life. Yeah. A chance to experience new things.

[A]

It's definitely a transition, but, like, a healthy one. A one that needs to happen.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Don't make your love. Don't make love your priority. Like, don't, like, go into college trying to, like, find a boyfriend or dick. Unless, like, I mean, do whatever the you want. I don't care. But, like, I would say don't. I would say go. Make friends, have fun. Get blacked out. Make mistakes. Make lots of mistakes.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

Make all the mistakes you can in college. So, like, when you get into the real world, you know what not to do. Make mistakes with men, make mistakes with women. Make mistakes in class. Cheat on them. Like, I don't even, like, do all the things in college. And then you'll be good. Right?

[B]

I think it's great. If it happens naturally, that's fine. But it shouldn't be your focus. It's such, like, a time of exploration. Like, you need to. You find some of your best friends ever. They'll last you for life.

[A]

Yeah. Like, we're gonna be at each other's funeral. Yeah, you'll probably be at mine, but, yeah, we'll see. Unless you get hit by a boss or something.

[B]

Let's hope not.

[A]

That goes to our next point. Don't lock yourself in your dorm unless, like, someone's trying to break in. We live in a really sketchy area.

[B]

Once a woman fully. We live next to a halfway house, and one of them randomly walked into our home thinking it was their own. And I'll never forget, I was sitting, and all of a sudden she's like.

[A]

Pull our phones out.

[B]

She was like, oh, this Isn't my house. I was like, nope. I was like, polly, she's nice. I don't even. She was very nice. She left. But I'm like, I don't even know if we locked our doors. And like, someone got shot on our.

[A]

Street, so we probably shouldn't would get knifed. Remember Chad got a gun pulled on him when he was trying to get a ride home. He thought it was his Uber. He pulled out a gun. He goes, well, do that in these parts. And Chad was like, what? My name's Chad. Like, let's be real.

[B]

So don't go alone. Have a buddy system.

[A]

Yeah, have a buddy.

[B]

If you're caused in a sketchy town.

[A]

Do join an extracurricular. Even if that extracurricular is like you sucking your professor sideways. Make sure you're doing something that's outside of your studies. What was yours?

[B]

Probably try it out. I don't think I got that involved in clubs, but I feel like I have regret for not doing that. I think clubs and like, sororities or sports resume and just a good way to like, meet friends, meet new people. Like, I think that's the best way to meet.

[A]

Katie was an acapella. I always thought that was cool. Yeah, do get close to your professor connections, networking. Yeah. Get close to a professor.

[B]

I do think, like, if your school offers like, office hours or anything, that's like a great way to like, build rapport with the professor. And that way they, like, know you're trying and like, that can go a very long way, especially if you're struggling. Just like shows that effort and then they get to know you and can only do good things.

[A]

I agree. I know, like, I don't know anything about office hours, but, like, what she said. This goes my next one. Don't stress yourself about Greek life. I mean, honestly, me not getting into sorority sent me to a fucking downward spiral. It's all my friends gotten to fucking try it out. And I go, fine, I'll just go to rehab. That's literally how my mind worked. Remember that?

[B]

Yes. But it was hard because, I mean, our school was such a small school. It basically was like, if you like went out and we're in like the social scene, like you joined a sorority or fraternity and it, like, wasn't fair that you weren't able to apply. But that's why it goes back to like, first semester, like, I don't know when we rushed second semester. But, like, get good grades so that you have the opportunities to do the things that you want.

[A]

And we had only three classes per. We had it easy.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Honestly, some days I only had one class.

[B]

Same.

[A]

I was like, some days I had no class.

[B]

It's pretty chill. It was like Monday, Wednesday, Friday. We'd have like two or three classes a day. And then I had labs.

[A]

I remember those long ass two hour classes though.

[B]

Those were tough. I had three hour labs. Okay, don't go to lab. Don't be a science major.

[A]

Okay, do change your major if it's making you miserable. You're not locked in.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

You can never change yours.

[B]

I mean, no, I was biochemistry from the beginning, but you can major in literally anything and do whatever you want want in life. Honestly, like, people are English majors and they're in finance. People are English majors and they went to med school. Like, it truly doesn't matter. I mean, I think if you know what you want to do, that's great and do that, but if not, like, there's always time to pivot.

[A]

I was a classics major and I'm an influencer slash podcaster. So.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

What does that mean? I couldn't tell you about the Hellenistic era. Do exchange numbers with the acquaintances in class. It might say you. I give your number to everyone.

[B]

Yes. There's gonna be times when you miss class. You need the notes.

[A]

You need the notes.

[B]

You can study together.

[A]

I used to like, befriend that, like, hot nerd. And I'd be like, oh, my God.

[B]

Same.

[A]

Patty, I really need the notes from class yesterday. It was really sick.

[B]

Will you tutor me? Yeah, I'm really struggling.

[A]

Can I meet you in the library? Can you explain me that fraction, that equation? I didn't get it. You had one. You had a hot nerd.

[B]

I did.

[A]

Tommy, yeah. Is he a doctor now?

[B]

He's in like Harvard residency. Maybe we'll read this.

[A]

Hot. He's gonna be so rich.

[B]

Remember when I told him if we were lab partners and I told him that if we got nay, you'd suck.

[A]

Them off, things would.

[B]

Things would end out well for him. I was like, tommy, you need you to work for this. I'm putting in the work.

[A]

You were selling your body for the A in the lab final.

[B]

I needed the A.

[A]

You need the A for the gpa. You're like, I will suck the soul out of your body if you get these molecules in line.

[B]

Yes. Write that.

[A]

Find the nucleus now.

[B]

Exactly. There was already, you know, chemistry. It was just a little extra motivation.

[A]

Remember you were blacked out and like he was sewing like peanuts on you from beer garden and you were like pretending you were a shipper in there ones?

[B]

No, because I got literally carried out of beer garden that night.

[A]

It was your birthday.

[B]

I fell asleep on the table.

[A]

We should go back.

[B]

That was, I think my like 21st birthday.

[A]

That was a fun day. Okay. Don't think you need to have your life figured out by junior year.

[B]

No, babe, we didn't have our life figured out.

[A]

All my figured out. Yeah, I mean, I'm getting better. I'm out. I'm chilling right now, loving what I do. But I couldn't two years ago, I couldn't tell you what I was doing. I was a hostess.

[B]

Neither of us had jobs. Coming out of college. We literally went to Nantucket. We were like, this is our last summer to like rip it. We had nothing figured out, but it was like the most fun. I don't regret any of it. We like.

[A]

I don't live the rest of it either.

[B]

To our fullest. And then like figured it out in September. But like, there's always time.

[A]

That was the craziest summer of my life.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

I wish we could have relived it. There was also that. Remember that? Was it the same summer we did that casting for the reality TV show?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

On Nantucket.

[B]

That could have really changed the trajectory.

[A]

So me and Margo, we did a full blown casting with a green screen with everything. And we're supposed to be like the summer house of Nantucket, full production team. Everything was locked and loaded. So it didn't happen with. It was with Bravo. I think it would have come into fruition if covet didn't happen. Was it with Bravo?

[B]

It was Bravo.

[A]

Okay. We did the whole casting thing.

[B]

We were casted.

[A]

We were supposed to know we were there filming, so.

[B]

But we didn't go in.

[A]

Our casting calls were the funniest. I wish we could get them to date same.

[B]

They literally had us like they were telling us certain things today, but they literally were like be like, we're the Paris Hilton and Nicole Richie of Nantucket.

[A]

Yeah. We're like, we only use our daddy's black cards. I still say this now, but it was the craziest thing ever. Like we only celebrities.

[B]

I don't know. We went out with them though. And that was even like more these like two like 40 year old women. We like brought them to the directors.

[A]

They were trying to like see like if we have the sauce. We brought them out. We're like on stage, we're like blackout.

[B]

We're like probably like embarrassing ourselves, like ruining our entire life. And then after that they're like, yep.

[A]

They're like, these are perfect. It would have been so good. Honestly, if they're watching this, hit us up because I'm still down to make a show. I still think we need a show. I still would love to do unscripted. Okay, last one. Do call your parents often. Yeah. They're worried about you. 100 and like it's a transition for them as well and it's just therapeutic.

[B]

And they want to know what's going on and it will relieve your own stress. Talk to your mom and your dad. Yeah.

[A]

Okay. Well, this was the first of many, I think Margo's. I've like as we're talking and sitting here right now, like there's so many stories that come to mind.

[B]

We could probably go for five.

[A]

We could go for five hours and then I'd get canceled, she'd get fired, be a whole thing. Honestly, I'm worried about this episode a little bit because we just like. I forgot their cameras.

[B]

I know. I feel like we kind of went into like a daze.

[A]

No, but like I love the days, honestly. It was like a good catch up. And now we're gonna go get some sushi and have like a proper catch up where I tell you what's going on in my love life.

[B]

I know.

[A]

Maybe we should talk about that on the next episode. I don't know. Stay tuned, stay tuned. But anyways, as always guys, thank you. You can watch on YouTube, subscribe, like, comment, say nice things, tell your friends about the show and you can listen to me on every other platform. Tag me, post me. I love reposting those stories. Love seeing you guys watch it. The show, like love it all. Anyways, I'm a little tipsy from that one. Martini Same.

[B]

I'm like, why'd that hit me in the face?

[A]

Hit me in the head. Marco, I love you. Thank you for coming on. Wait, clip this. I love you so much. And I love you all. And I'll see you next week. Pesos. Bye. Hormone Harmony is a game changer for women who feel off physically and mentally. Created by an award winning German nutrition scientist, it blends 12 evidence based adaptogens into one capsule. No fillers, no junk, just science backed support for clarity, comfort, energy and confidence. With 50,000 plus glowing reviews, it's helped millions feel like themselves again. Try it now with 15% off your first order using code [e-mail].

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