Rachael Kirkconnell, Graydon, and me *Unwell Vegas recap!!*

Summary

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Extra Dirty with Hallie Batchelder

Episode: Rachael Kirkconnell, Graydon, and Me – Unwell Vegas Recap!!
Date: October 16, 2025
Host: Hallie Batchelder
Guests: Rachel Kirkconnell, Graydon (brief mentions); Alex Cooper (recurring banter)

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Overview

In this lively, unfiltered episode, Hallie Batchelder takes listeners on a wild and honest recap of an Unwell brand trip to Las Vegas with besties Rachel Kirkconnell and Alex Cooper. The girls get candid about the Vegas club scene, girls’ trip misadventures, their sex and dating philosophies, and why friendship always triumphs over men. With classic sleepover vibes, the group dives into their raunchiest confessions, relationship hurdles, and the realities of public and personal personas. If you want to feel like you’re tipsy on a Vegas couch with your loudest, most hilarious friends, this episode delivers.

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1. Arrival in Vegas: Scent, Stereotypes, and Past Flings

[02:20–05:00]

• Vegas First Impressions: The “air is different” – Hallie jokes about it smelling like fast food, cigarettes, and “your grandma’s mothballs.”
• Vegas as Playground for Rich Men and Rumors:
  • Hallie recalls frequenting Vegas as a “towel girl,” with rumors about her and Lauren being escorts.
    • Hallie insists: “There was someone always sucking, but it was never me and Lauren!” (03:30)
  • Lavish penthouse memories: “It was like a museum…there was an aquarium in the middle of this penthouse.” (03:46)
  • The group reflects on older men wanting “fresh meat” and admits to utilizing opportunities: “Looking back, it was definitely, like, creepy vibes. But free clothing. I was networking.” (08:17)

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2. Money, Materialism, and Vegas Debauchery

[10:00–11:03]

• On Money Habits and Impulse Buying:

  • Hallie: “I spent a lot of money on things I need to spend money on, like rent or clothes.” (10:35)
  • Confession of dropping $20k on clothes for Mykonos, with half the outfits going unworn.
  • Alex Cooper questions returning items, Hallie confesses: “I don't know how to return. I've never returned anything.”

• Pool Parties and Rain in the Desert:

  • Arriving at a Vegas pool party, the girls are surprised by ankle-deep pools and rare rain.
  • “I feel like I was in a music video.” (11:28)

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3. Sex & Relationship Talk: Who Makes the First Move?

[12:03–16:41]

• Hallie’s Unsuccessful Hookup (“Edging”) Drama:

  • Hallie: “I got blue balled last night. I'm always edged by this one guy. Not physically—like, I feel physically edged, though.” (12:03)
  • Receives advice from Alex on how to approach him (“maybe give him some words of encouragement”), role-plays awkward bro-chat confrontation.

• Gender Roles in Dating:

  • Discussion on whether girls should make the first move.
  • Hallie: “Girls aren’t supposed to initiate. Like, you’re supposed to be the one throwing me around like a hurricane victim.” (13:15)
  • Alex: “Do girls not make the first move because they'll be called, like, easy?” (13:47)
  • Hallie: “A girl just wants to be manhandled and, like, lead. Because I think the girl is supposed to be reserved and, like, such a precious treasure…Historically.” (14:00)

• Switching to LGBTQ+ Dynamics & Sexual Power:

  • Alex: “How does it work when you’re gay? The top takes charge?”
  • Hallie: “I like like sucking dick because I feel like when a guy's dick’s in my mouth, I have all the power. I could bite down if I wanted to.” (15:40)
  • They discuss the warped power play in oral sex, segway into pop culture references (“Teeth”, “Venus flytrap”).

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4. Sketchy September Confessions

[16:25–20:00]

• Hallie invites listeners’ confessions:
  • Hallie admits: “I think I had six bodies in September. It was a very sketchy month.” (16:41)
  • Alex relates: “September for me was really, really dark. I just like shut off my mind and opened my legs. Literally, that’s all I did.” (16:46)
• Best Listener Confessions:
  • Hiring an Etsy witch for love spells or rain prevention at a wedding, and the “insane” lengths people go.
  • Sex in grandma’s dining room: “Were the china dolls rattling off the shelf? Did you damage grandma's property? Did you clean the table after or did grandma come home to cream pie on the table?” (20:02)
  • Hooking up with much older men leads to a debate on the “prime” of 40-year-old men, age gap relationships, and prenup logic.

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5. Friendship vs. Men, and Nightlife Decompression

[29:19–31:00]

• Rachel & Hallie Establish Loyalty Over Men

  • “I care about you, I don't care about him. We can be friends. I’m obviously gonna choose you 10 out of 10 times.” (30:18 – Rachel)
  • Men as “accessories” or “labubus” (“Just attach them to your chain and they pay for things…Men are the boo boos.” (30:37 – Hallie))
  • Reference to Sex and the City: “Let's be soul mates, and the guys in our life, perfect.” (30:42)

• Hangover & Party Endurance:

  • Recap of the girls’ nearly 48-hour bender.
  • Stories of getting kicked out of hotel rooms, canceled late-night room service, and being “up for 24 hours.”

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6. Dry Spells, Apps, and “Lover Girl” Realness

[34:12–36:50]

• Rachel's Chronic Singleness & Dry Spell:
  • “No, I've been so chronically single, I haven't been on a single date.” (34:17)
  • On dating apps: “I just don’t think that would work well for me. But honestly, like, if it gets to a point…” (34:22)
• Hallie Advocates for Dry Spells:
  • “Dry spells are important. Same for self-discovery.” (34:47)
  • Rachel laments: “I'm discovered. I know who I am. I'm ready for dick.” (34:52)
• Crushes on Unavailable Men:
  • Rachel: “I think I like people who don’t like me back or can’t like me back.”
  • Hallie: “I think you need a guy that's off social media. Yeah, I think you need a straight man.”

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7. Modern Sexuality & Demisexual/Pansexual Chat

[37:07–38:50]

• Open discussion about bisexuality, pansexuality, and the emotional prerequisites for Rachel to sleep with someone.
  • Hallie (after looking up): “Demisexuality is a sexual orientation where a person experiences sexual attraction only after forming a strong emotional bond with another person.” (37:30)
  • Rachel: “I feel like I do have to have an emotional connection with someone…I just don't think I could, like, go home with anyone.”
  • Hallie: “That’s probably why you’re not having sex.”

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8. Dry Spells, Approachable Energy & Relationship Advice

[40:14–41:39]

• On energy, being hard to approach, and intimidating men.
  • Hallie: “I feel like a lot of guys have this problem with me…I seem super closed off. Whether it's body language…I'm kind of hard to approach sometimes.”
  • Rachel: “I've been told that I'm hard to approach as well…I'm a girl's girl…I kind of like the idea of guys being a little scared of me.”

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9. Wildest Vegas & Sex Confessions (“Truth or Drink” with Rachel)

[46:03–55:00]

• Wildest Vegas Story:
  • Rachel recounts her 21st birthday trying (and failing, then succeeding by crying!) to get into a Chainsmokers booth, ending up in their hotel suite:
    • “The manager looks in my face and he's like, you will never get in here…[but] he let me in.” (47:42)
• On One-Night Stands & Purity:
  • Rachel: “I've never had a one night stand…I'm such a lover girl.” (49:06)
  • Hallie: “See, I have like a degrading kink. So, like, I like to feel that way.” (49:29)
• Kinkiest Fantasies/Confessions:
  • Rachel: “The kinkiest thing is probably, like, public sex…But I really don't want to get caught. That doesn’t turn me on—if someone did, anxiety!” (50:52–51:11)
  • Hallie on being walked in on by her mom having anal at 16: “My mom’s walked in on me…Having anal. I was 16.” (51:18–51:22)
• High School vs. Adulthood:
  • Rachel: “We were kinkier in high school than I am now as an almost 30-year-old woman.”

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10. The Vulnerability of Dry Spells & Wanting Love

[54:05–55:58]

• Embarrassment About Sex Drought:

  • Rachel: “Guys, I haven’t had sex way longer than you think…it’s been years. I feel like a virgin again.” (54:23–54:36)
  • Hallie reassures: “Nothing wrong with that…I’m manifesting that you’re gonna get that in the next six months.” (55:24–55:30)

• Relationship Hopefulness:

  • Rachel: “I want to crush that CR is crushing on me back. Like, I want it to be mutually crushing. Let’s have a honeymoon phase, let me fall in love again, and then break my heart—I don’t care!” (55:34–55:57)
  • Hallie: “Heartbreak brings a redemption arc era…you get, like, hot after every heartbreak.” (56:02)

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11. Celebrity Crushes & Friendship Vibes

[58:34–60:46]

• Who They’d “Risk it All” For:
  • Rachel: “I used to have such a crush on Glenn Powell…Channing Tatum…he still looks so handsome.” (58:37–59:23)
  • Hallie: “Jacob Elordi for me…and Austin Butler.” (59:46)
  • Acknowledging the weirdness of developing celeb crushes as adults who might run into them or know their girlfriends.
  • Rachel: “I don't really crush out on celebrities because I don't know them…and, like, they could be the worst.” (58:48)
• Friendship Affirmation:
  • “I love you so much. This is really fun. You should come on more…I feel like we could talk for hours.” (60:28–60:34 – Hallie and Rachel)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• “There was someone always sucking, but it was never me and Lauren.” – Hallie (03:30)
• “I think I had six bodies in September. It was a very sketchy month.” – Hallie (16:41)
• “I just like shut off my mind and opened my legs. Literally, that’s all I did.” – Alex Cooper (16:46)
• “Girls aren't supposed to initiate. Like, you’re supposed to be the one throwing me around like a hurricane victim.” – Hallie (13:15)
• “I feel like when a guy's dick's in my mouth, I have all the power. I could bite down if I wanted to.” – Hallie (15:40)
• “We can be friends and I’m obviously gonna choose you 10 out of 10 times.” – Rachel (30:18)
• “Men are the boo boos. Just attach them to your chain and they pay for things.” – Hallie (30:37)
• “I've never had a one night stand…I'm such a lover girl.” – Rachel (49:06)
• “We were kinkier in high school than I am now as an almost 30-year-old woman.” – Rachel (52:10)
• “Guys, I haven't had sex way longer than you think…It has been so long. I feel like a virgin again.” – Rachel (54:23–54:36)
• “Heartbreak brings a redemption arc era…you get, like, hot after every heartbreak.” – Hallie (56:02)

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• Arriving in Vegas / Escort Rumors: 02:20–05:00
• Materialism & Pool Party: 10:00–11:03
• Edging & Relationship Roles: 12:03–16:41
• Sketchy September Confessions: 16:25–20:00
• Friendship Over Men: 29:19–31:00
• Dry Spell Talk: 34:12–36:50
• Sexuality & Demisexuality: 37:07–38:50
• Being Approachable/Intimidating: 40:14–41:39
• Truth or Drink Wildest Vegas Story: 46:03–48:47
• High School vs. Adult Kinkiness: 52:06–52:54
• Dry Spells & Wanting Love: 54:05–55:58
• Celebrity Crushes: 58:34–60:46

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Conclusion

This episode is a hilarious, sometimes jaw-dropping deep dive into the unfiltered lives of Hallie, Rachel, and their crew, dissecting love, dry spells, sexual confidence, friendship, hookups, and the wild inside track of a girls’ Vegas trip. Their boundary-pushing banter makes it feel like a group FaceTime with your most TMI friends—equal parts supportive and unhinged.

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[Episode summary compiled and structured by AI Podcast Summarizer]

Transcript

[Alex Cooper]

Morning, Zoe. Got donuts.

[Rachel]

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[Alex Cooper]

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[Rachel]

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[Hallie]

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[Rachel]

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[Hallie]

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[Alex Cooper]

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[Hallie]

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[Alex Cooper]

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[Rachel]

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[Hallie]

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[Alex Cooper]

What the hell?

[Hallie]

What is that?

[Rachel]

I don't know. Let's say it's toothpaste.

[Hallie]

Hopefully it's toothpaste. Whenever there's like a random white substance, like stuck to my pan, I always get a little worried for what I was doing the night prior. What up, you little freaks? Okay, guys, I'm doing something really stupid right now. We have an emergency debrief situation. Hi, this is Hallie from the streets of New York. Guys, I had every intention of staying in last night. Welcome back to Extra Fucking Dirty dirty. Whoa, whoa. That was really good, baby.

[Alex Cooper]

You're welcome. I'm a Vegas showgirl. We're in Vegas.

[Hallie]

We're in Vegas. What do you think this is your first time in Vegas? How are we feeling?

[Alex Cooper]

Terrified. Absolutely terrified.

[Hallie]

Isn't the air different?

[Alex Cooper]

Smelly?

[Hallie]

Not just you, babe.

[Alex Cooper]

No, babe, that's you.

[Hallie]

No, that's you.

[Alex Cooper]

That's your hair extensions. No, it's, like, smells here, but in, like, a good way. Like. No, it smells like fast food. One second it's a cigarette, the next second. Yeah, it's your grandma's mothballs the next second.

[Hallie]

Do you notice how, like, everyone at all hours is just, like, walking around the casino?

[Alex Cooper]

Yeah. What are they doing?

[Hallie]

They're gambling. We're in Vegas.

[Alex Cooper]

We haven't been in a casino yet.

[Hallie]

Do you want to gamble after this?

[Alex Cooper]

Somebody else's money? Yeah.

[Hallie]

I used to come here a lot.

[Alex Cooper]

Yeah, I've heard.

[Hallie]

Yeah.

[Alex Cooper]

And our little friend over here was a towel girl.

[Hallie]

I was a towel girl. And like, I talked about this before. Like, people like, from my high school and college, they used to think, like, me and Lauren were escorts because of how we were acting.

[Alex Cooper]

Yeah. I mean, I had that thought at one point, too, about me. This was before we knew each other.

[Hallie]

You thought I was an escort?

[Alex Cooper]

No, but I was like, what is she doing to get on these PJs?

[Hallie]

No. Yeah. Cuz, like, who's getting sucked? But I wasn't sucking anyone. There was someone always sucking, but it was never me and Lauren.

[Alex Cooper]

Would they do it on the plane in front of you?

[Hallie]

No, but, like, he. When we would come here, we would stay at this one hotel, and it. We'd always be in, like, the big, lavish, like, penthouse suite. Like, the thing was a museum. There was like an aquarium in the middle of this penthouse.

[Alex Cooper]

Bigger than the one we were just.

[Hallie]

At, like, four times the size.

[Alex Cooper]

Oh, my God.

[Hallie]

It was in sanity.

[Alex Cooper]

Like the hangover.

[Hallie]

It had like. Yeah, like the hangover. It would have its two hot tubs off the side. Like a whole ass wait staff, butlers, the whole nine yards. And it was like a five bedroom suite.

[Alex Cooper]

What hotel was that?

[Hallie]

I don't know, actually.

[Alex Cooper]

Like, probably something janky or something.

[Hallie]

No, it's the nicest one here, I think.

[Alex Cooper]

Oh, wow.

[Hallie]

But anyways, I think we were going with this billionaire guy, and I think he owned part of the hotel. Like, he had equity in it.

[Alex Cooper]

Yeah.

[Hallie]

So he would always be given that room.

[Alex Cooper]

Yeah. Or he owned the hotel.

[Hallie]

Or he owned the hotel. I don't. It's one of those.

[Alex Cooper]

But should we call him?

[Hallie]

No, we should call him. Sometimes I text him because I want to go to, like, games. He also owns a team, so I would text him and he would ignore me.

[Alex Cooper]

He's like, you Old, crumbly, shriveled up.

[Hallie]

Day I turned 25, he was like, get the out of here.

[Alex Cooper]

He wants that fresh meat.

[Hallie]

But we used to go to Vegas with him. No, literally, that's what it is. Like, he just wanted like younger girls. But we would go with him and he would always like, have a girl with him. He would bring us shopping. It was like, what's that movie? Little Woman?

[Alex Cooper]

Yeah. Oh. I go, yeah. Pretty Woman.

[Hallie]

Pretty Woman.

[Alex Cooper]

And she was like, what's the scene.

[Hallie]

Where she's like, do you like this dress?

[Alex Cooper]

No. Where she's like, you work on commission, right? Big mistake. Huge. Huge.

[Hallie]

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[Alex Cooper]

Morning, Zoe. Got donuts.

[Rachel]

Jeff Bridges, why are you still living above our garage?

[Alex Cooper]

Well, I dig the mattress and I want to be in a T mobile commercial like you. Teach me, Suldanna.

[Rachel]

Oh no, I'm not really prepared. I couldn't possibly at T Mobile get.

[Hallie]

The new iPhone 17 Pro on them.

[Rachel]

It's designed to be the most powerful.

[Hallie]

Iphone yet and has the ultimate pro camera system.

[Alex Cooper]

Wow, impressive. Let me try. T mobile is the best place to get iPhone 17 Pro because they've got the best network.

[Rachel]

Nice.

[Hallie]

Jeffrey, you heard them.

[Alex Cooper]

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[Hallie]

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[Alex Cooper]

So what are we having for lunch?

[Rachel]

Dude, my work here is done.

[Hallie]

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[Alex Cooper]

But little girls is little girl. The people watching you guys are like, none of these girls have dads that love them.

[Hallie]

No, literally, that was all their. We were getting looks inside eye, like, all weekend. But we'd go and, like, he would bring us shopping because he'd be going to the UFC fight, and he's like, I need you guys to look good for the UFC fight. And we went into, like. I remember we went to Agent Provocateur.

[Alex Cooper]

Like, the slutty lingerie place.

[Hallie]

Bloody lingerie place. But they also have, like, clothing.

[Alex Cooper]

Oh.

[Hallie]

So we'd go in. He was sitting on the couch. We go into the changing room, like, try on an outfit and then go out. And if he liked it, he would buy it. And if he didn't like it, he would be, like, trying something else. I'm not paying for that.

[Alex Cooper]

Define outfit. Like G String.

[Hallie]

No, like, Lauren got a cute blazer.

[Alex Cooper]

Oh, blazers there.

[Hallie]

Yeah. I got, like, a bustier.

[Alex Cooper]

A bustier?

[Hallie]

A bustier. Like, it was looking back. Yeah. In hindsight, it was definitely, like, creepy vibes. But free clothing. I was networking. And then we'd go on his pj. We would go to the Sphere and, like, for the Sphere, before it was even open.

[Alex Cooper]

What's the Sphere? It's behind us.

[Hallie]

Right there. It's that big dome.

[Alex Cooper]

The Eiffel Tower?

[Hallie]

No, behind it. The big black wall.

[Alex Cooper]

Oh, that's the place where it's like, IMAX theater.

[Hallie]

So he owns that.

[Alex Cooper]

Oh, my God. I would get, like, nauseous.

[Hallie]

No, it's sick. We should take shrooms and go.

[Alex Cooper]

That would make me go to the hospital, babe. I want to go on that little carnival. What's carnival ride? What's that called? Carnival wheel. A Ferris wheel.

[Hallie]

No one ever has called it a carnival wheel, ever.

[Alex Cooper]

Ferris wheel. Sorry. I used to work at the fair. Do you know that?

[Hallie]

Tell Me.

[Alex Cooper]

So when I was, like, 14, my. Right. When I turned 14, I got, like, my work permit. You wouldn't. This pitch didn't work, so she didn't.

[Hallie]

I did work. You called me two job halo.

[Alex Cooper]

When you were 14, what was your job?

[Hallie]

Getting through rehab.

[Alex Cooper]

Puberty. Yeah, I worked at the fair. I sold tickets. Shout out, Barnstable County Fair. Hey. Yeah. Worst job of my life.

[Hallie]

So you. You were like a carney folk.

[Alex Cooper]

Well, it's one week a year, so I only worked one week a year.

[Hallie]

How much did you make in that one week?

[Alex Cooper]

60 bucks, I think.

[Hallie]

The whole week?

[Alex Cooper]

Yeah. Minimum wage back then I'm not getting was like $7.15.

[Hallie]

Why'd you do it?

[Alex Cooper]

Like, nobody made me do it. I did uber uptown 100. Yeah. Inflation.

[Hallie]

Yeah.

[Alex Cooper]

Nobody made me do it. I just, like, got a little. Got a little cocky.

[Hallie]

Got a little cocky, and I was.

[Alex Cooper]

Like, I want to be a carny.

[Hallie]

That was a goal at the time.

[Alex Cooper]

Yeah. The fair in my town is, like, kind of iconic.

[Hallie]

What would you have done if you didn't end up in this industry? Do you think about that ever?

[Alex Cooper]

Every day I wake up and I look in the mirror, and I'm like, thank the universe, thank the Lord. I would be so incredibly screwed, and parents would hate me. I would 100 still be my dad's financial team.

[Hallie]

I still want to be on the financial team.

[Alex Cooper]

Same. But, like, it's very liberating being able to do your own thing.

[Hallie]

It is, but I just don't trust myself with my finances.

[Alex Cooper]

Oh. See, I'm, like, pretty good.

[Hallie]

You are good.

[Alex Cooper]

Yeah. I have, like, spreadsheets and stuff. I see what's coming in. I see what's going on. If I'm crazy, I'm like, girl, you gotta reel it in next month.

[Hallie]

Well, I spent a lot of money on, like, things I need to spend money on, like rent or clothes.

[Alex Cooper]

We kind of have a problem with clothes.

[Hallie]

Babe, I don't have a problem with clothes. It could be bags.

[Alex Cooper]

Didn't you say you spent, like, 20 grand a couple months ago on clothes?

[Hallie]

We were going to Mykonos. What am I supposed to do?

[Alex Cooper]

True.

[Hallie]

I also didn't wear, like, half those outfits.

[Alex Cooper]

Did you return them?

[Hallie]

I don't know how to return. I've never returned anything in my life.

[Alex Cooper]

Okay.

[Hallie]

Anyways, last night. What do we do Last night? So yesterday we had the pool party. It was raining, but the vibes are good.

[Alex Cooper]

We show up to the pool party, It's a little overcast. You know, people are in the Pool which. Did you notice the pool was, like, ankle deep? Do they do that so people don't drown here? Maybe it's like, that's where the pool parties happen, so it can't be too deep.

[Hallie]

Yeah, because maybe we'll just, like, splash a lot.

[Alex Cooper]

No, it's not for the splash zone. It's so people don't drown.

[Hallie]

You can drown in two inches of water.

[Alex Cooper]

Okay, but, like, you're not gonna sink to the bottom.

[Hallie]

True. Maybe that's why. But they definitely do pools in Vegas. Yeah, it was raining. But, like, honestly, I feel like I was in a music video.

[Alex Cooper]

I, like, actually felt good for the residents of Vegas that it was raining because I was like, they probably never see rain here.

[Hallie]

The plants are probably really happy.

[Alex Cooper]

Yeah.

[Hallie]

Are we in the desert?

[Alex Cooper]

Yeah, it's giving desert.

[Hallie]

It's so, like, tumbleweed. They actually have tumbleweed.

[Alex Cooper]

Oh, my God. Really?

[Hallie]

Yeah.

[Alex Cooper]

SpongeBob.

[Hallie]

Really?

[Alex Cooper]

Yeah.

[Hallie]

Isn't SpongeBob in the ocean?

[Alex Cooper]

Yeah, it is in the ocean, bitch. But if you've ever watched spongebob, they.

[Hallie]

Have tumbleweed with the word bitch.

[Alex Cooper]

Bitch. What? Bitch, please.

[Hallie]

So anyways, I got blue balled last me again. I'm always edged by this one guy.

[Alex Cooper]

Not physically.

[Hallie]

Like, I feel physically edged, though. What does that mean, though?

[Alex Cooper]

Edge. Yeah, like, he'd be finger banging you and you're about to finish, and he would just stop.

[Hallie]

That's what it feels like.

[Alex Cooper]

Except he's not physically doing anything.

[Hallie]

No, except he's not physically touching me at all.

[Alex Cooper]

It's so sad. He's, like, intellectually edging you.

[Hallie]

Yeah, he's just edging you with his face. He's hot, though.

[Alex Cooper]

Yeah, he's cute.

[Hallie]

He's really cute.

[Alex Cooper]

Yeah.

[Hallie]

I feel like we're in love.

[Alex Cooper]

You can tell he's an ally of the community. You can definitely tell. Like, he's well rounded.

[Hallie]

He slept over before and he edged me there. He did edge me, like, actually making out. Like seventh graders. Then I was like, I haven't done this in so long. Like, who made. Who just makes out? And then he was like, I'm done. And then I try to graze his dick. And he, like, kind of moved my hand. I was like, what are we doing here? I'm not 13.

[Alex Cooper]

Maybe he's a father. The child of God.

[Hallie]

No, there's no way. And then yesterday I was talking to him about that. I was like, I'm confused by this. And he was like, well, you didn't make. You didn't initiate anything else. And I was like, you Want me to initiate? Girls aren't supposed to initiate. Like, you're supposed to be the one throwing me around like a hurricane victim.

[Alex Cooper]

Do you think if a girl makes the first move, she puts herself at risk? Like, what if the guy switches and is, like, calls her a whore? Like, a slut?

[Hallie]

I get called that every day in my comment section, so I'm not really worried. Like, I would love for him to call me a slut when I'm, like, hooking up with you.

[Alex Cooper]

Yeah, when you're, like, riding his dick. Do you know what I mean, though? Like, I'm actually curious. Do girls not make the first move because they'll be called, like, easy or something or.

[Hallie]

I think a girl just wants to be kind of manhandled and, like, lead.

[Alex Cooper]

Yeah.

[Hallie]

Because I think the girl is, like, supposed to be, like, kind of, like the reserved and, like, timid and, like, such a precious, like, treasure.

[Alex Cooper]

Historically.

[Hallie]

Yeah, historically. I mean, I definitely don't fall into that, but that's why I said historically. And you, like, want the guy to, like, take charge and, like, take lead and, like, kind of, like, navigate you through it. I feel like that is, like, the stigma. Not stigma, but, like, I feel like a girl is kind of waiting for the guy to make the move.

[Alex Cooper]

It's like a guy paying for a date.

[Hallie]

Yeah. So you want the guy to, like, be, like, kind of, like, throwing you around, right?

[Alex Cooper]

Yeah. I don't know.

[Hallie]

How does it work when you're gay? The top takes charge.

[Alex Cooper]

You're asking the wrong person. Like, I don't know.

[Hallie]

I guess you got stuck the other week.

[Alex Cooper]

That didn't really count.

[Hallie]

What do you do? Do you put your arms up behind your head like this?

[Alex Cooper]

No, I, like, hang from the seat. I hang from the curtain.

[Hallie]

Stand or sit? Well, I just picture you like this.

[Alex Cooper]

Why would my legs be open?

[Hallie]

I don't know what you're into.

[Alex Cooper]

Well, maybe I'll have to watch one time.

[Hallie]

I would love to. I let you watch.

[Alex Cooper]

I didn't have my contacts and I couldn't see.

[Hallie]

So, anyways, back to this band. Hopefully we hook up tonight.

[Alex Cooper]

I know. Should I pull him aside and, like, maybe give him some words of encouragement?

[Hallie]

Yeah.

[Alex Cooper]

Do you want me to?

[Hallie]

Yeah.

[Alex Cooper]

Maybe I'll pull him aside and just be like, when are you gonna. My friend. Coming from a concerned friend. Okay.

[Hallie]

I'm him. Okay. Yo, what's up?

[Alex Cooper]

Yo, bro. What's good?

[Hallie]

Yo, bro.

[Alex Cooper]

What's good?

[Hallie]

Yo, yo, bro. What's good?

[Alex Cooper]

Yeah, so, like, I know you're talking to my girl.

[Hallie]

She's so hot, bro.

[Alex Cooper]

She's really horny, bro.

[Hallie]

Yo, I don't know. I don't know what the vibe is, bro.

[Alex Cooper]

Yeah, well, I'm telling you what the vibe is.

[Hallie]

What should I do, bro?

[Alex Cooper]

You gotta just dive in. Like the water slide.

[Hallie]

Do you want to watch, bro?

[Alex Cooper]

Bro.

[Hallie]

Okay, scene. I feel like that will work. I don't even really want to him. I want to suck him. Oh, I just like want to suck his dick. Really? I want to edge him.

[Alex Cooper]

Yeah, you should torture him.

[Hallie]

I like like sucking dick because I feel like when a guy's dicks in my mouth, I have all the power. I could bite down if I wanted to.

[Alex Cooper]

Y.

[Hallie]

It's like a very powerful thing.

[Alex Cooper]

You could swallow and snap it off.

[Hallie]

Like, they think they have the power because they're getting their dick suck, but really I have the power because I could end your life with my jaw. Is that a warped way of thinking? I just feel powerful.

[Alex Cooper]

Do you think they feel that way when they're going down on you?

[Hallie]

I mean, have you seen that movie.

[Alex Cooper]

American Psycho when the has teeth.

[Hallie]

No, what movie are you watching?

[Alex Cooper]

It's called Teeth. This girl's vag has teeth.

[Hallie]

Like a Venus fly trap. Yeah, but like a barracuda. Yeah, barracuda puss. I bet people think my barracuda puss. Do you know what Venus fly trap is?

[Alex Cooper]

Like prickly.

[Hallie]

Engulfs you.

[Alex Cooper]

You guys, I can't talk about vulvas for too long. It like really bugs me out.

[Hallie]

Okay, next we are gonna do a little segment called Sketchy September Confessions. Although it is October, I asked all you guys to submit some confessions of the sketchiest you've been up to in September. Me, myself, and I. I think I had six bodies in September. It was a very sketchy month.

[Alex Cooper]

Good for you. No, literally think September for me was really, really dark.

[Hallie]

I just like shut off my mind and open my legs. Literally, that's all I did.

[Alex Cooper]

And then they just came and they.

[Hallie]

Just like flocked me like a moth to a flame.

[Alex Cooper]

A moth to a flame.

[Hallie]

But like, it was like a moth to a puss.

[Alex Cooper]

I took to a puss.

[Hallie]

You get the point. Anyways, I love doing these because it makes me feel better about my life. Because the people that like watch the show and support me are insane. And it makes me feel great unhinged and I fucking love it. Let's read some of these and I want you to react to them. I spent like $200 on an Etsy witch. Love spells on him.

[Alex Cooper]

Oh, my God. I've been seeing this Etsy witch shit everywhere.

[Hallie]

Well, yeah, because you know, Jazz, she paid an Etsy witch to essentially make it not rain on her wedding day. It was fucking insane. I think she made this Etsy witch like six figures that year. Because if she put this girl on, didn't the witches. It was like 100% rain in the forecast. It was the most beautiful day ever. And it was because that fucking Etsy witch. What would you do? Would you do that?

[Alex Cooper]

Would I call an Etsy witch?

[Hallie]

Would you pay an Etsy witch to like, hex someone that crossed you or.

[Alex Cooper]

No, I feel like that's probably bad karma, but I would put something like good in the universe out. Maybe I should do that. I would call the Etsy witch and tell her to make my sleep cycle better.

[Hallie]

That's the first thing you would ask for?

[Alex Cooper]

Yeah, it's getting bad.

[Hallie]

My sleep cycle's been really off too.

[Alex Cooper]

And then I would probably ask her to find me some dick.

[Hallie]

I can't wait to see you. Like, when you're in a relationship, like, are you gonna, like, hold their hand? Are you like affectionate? I don't know, like, if I was a man, would you be like touching my leg and like rubbing it a little bit?

[Alex Cooper]

In public? Yeah, define public.

[Hallie]

Like, if you were like sitting next to each other, like, you guys are out, would you be like, hold my hand? Would you be like this?

[Alex Cooper]

No, no, I would do it. No, I would touch them.

[Hallie]

When I'm in a relationship, I like, willy, grab someone's dick in public. Oh, like I'll like grab their dick. I actually do that with like, people that aren't my boyfriend.

[Alex Cooper]

One of my best friends and her ex boyfriend and me, we were all really close. This was like 10 years ago. One time I was driving my car and I looked in the rearview mirror and his pants were off and she was just sucking his dick. And I had no clue. The whole time I was just driving my car.

[Hallie]

So you were driving your car while your friend was sucking man's deck?

[Alex Cooper]

The new Nav album came out. So like I was blasting it on my speakers. Cuz my Jeep Grand Cherokee had like really good bass, so I couldn't. So I couldn't hear anything. And then I look in the rearview mirror and then I turn on the light and I look back and I.

[Hallie]

Was like, you've seen a lot of your friends.

[Alex Cooper]

Like that's something you would do.

[Hallie]

Yeah, I used to be that girl that would like go to like Country Fest and get like fingered in the.

[Alex Cooper]

Back of like a van at Xfinity Center.

[Rachel]

Yeah.

[Alex Cooper]

Like behind the trees, against the wall.

[Hallie]

Yeah.

[Alex Cooper]

Yeah.

[Hallie]

I was like 15 or like even. Let's, like, we'd be in the crowd. I'd just be getting fingered.

[Alex Cooper]

You're.

[Hallie]

Yeah, everyone gets fingered at Country Fest. Yeah, it's like a rite of passage.

[Alex Cooper]

Yeah. On the lawn, like anything goes.

[Hallie]

This leads me to the next submission I sucked. My ex's massive elephant's in my grandma's dining room. Whoops, that's hot.

[Alex Cooper]

In grandma's dining room. Was grandma home?

[Hallie]

I have a lot of questions about this one. Was grandma home? Were there any trinkets around? There's a lot of trinkets in grandma's house.

[Alex Cooper]

Yeah, there's a lot. What do they call them? Knickknacks? Tchkes.

[Hallie]

Yeah, I think they're all the same thing.

[Alex Cooper]

Were the china dolls rattling off the shelf? Did you damage grandma's property? Did you clean the table after? Or did grandma come home to cream pie on the table? I've done that in grandma's house before.

[Hallie]

They're selling about, like hooking up with someone at someone else's house. That is really hot. But like, grandma might turn me off.

[Alex Cooper]

Yeah, I've done it. When grandma's home, at grandma's house.

[Hallie]

With who? Your cousin?

[Alex Cooper]

No. Ew. This person I can't talk about.

[Hallie]

Okay, let's see the next one. I hooked up with a 40 year old. I'm 27 and it was amazing. That's not that bad.

[Alex Cooper]

No, that's nothing special.

[Hallie]

That's honestly beautiful. I think 40 is like such a prime age for men.

[Alex Cooper]

If you were 22.

[Hallie]

I'd still fucking do it.

[Alex Cooper]

I would still do it, but like, that would be a bigger age difference. Like right now if a 40 year old was like, hey, like I'm really into you and like a beautiful relationship blossomed, I would run with that shit.

[Hallie]

Yeah.

[Alex Cooper]

A 40 year olds. Yeah.

[Hallie]

I think the age gap is okay after 25, like in a relationship.

[Alex Cooper]

Yeah.

[Hallie]

And I think an age gap is necessary. Honestly, sometimes 9 to 11 years older is like the sweet spot.

[Alex Cooper]

I know that I'm 28 and like, I cannot date a 28 year old and I probably can't even date like a 30 year old.

[Hallie]

36 would be like a great age for me.

[Alex Cooper]

Like 34.

[Hallie]

Yeah, 34, 36.

[Alex Cooper]

They're just starting to get to.

[Hallie]

I don't think I would marry like a 40 year old because I want to have kids and I don't want them to Be in diapers while I'm like, changing diapers. There needs to be like a balance. Like, you don't need you around to help me.

[Alex Cooper]

You don't want to have like a baby nurse and a home nurse.

[Hallie]

Yeah. I mean, unless you're like a billionaire. Then we can like, talk.

[Alex Cooper]

Yeah. You don't need a baby. A baby nanny, a night nurse, and like a CNA nurse.

[Hallie]

Isn't it crazy that when, like, people get older, they, like turn into babies again?

[Alex Cooper]

It's really sad.

[Hallie]

But even like how we speak to them, they turn into babies. If you're like, grandfather is like 90. You kind of like talk to them in a baby voice. Like, hi, yeah, how are you?

[Alex Cooper]

See, I would do the opposite to my grandpa.

[Hallie]

You wouldn't be like, what the up, bro?

[Alex Cooper]

No, I'd be like, hey, grandpa. I wouldn't be like, hi, grandpa. He would like, punch me.

[Hallie]

He would use every ounce drink to like slap you across the face.

[Alex Cooper]

He's like, in hospice, he gets out of bed and punches me in the.

[Hallie]

Face and he goes, I feel better, but I think that's hot. They're slanging about an older guy. They know what they're doing. They know where the clit is.

[Alex Cooper]

Sorry, I thought when you were saying that you were talking about like a grandpa in hospice.

[Hallie]

No, I'm sorry. My ADHD is kicking it. I'm going back to the submission. I think an age gap is good because a 40 year old guy knows where the clit is. He knows, like, what to do in bed. He's going to take care of you. He's probably more financially stable. He's probably just like, has it, like more figured out.

[Alex Cooper]

I feel like there's a lot to learn for both parties.

[Hallie]

It's a teaching lesson, if anything.

[Alex Cooper]

Yeah. And then hopefully it blossoms into a beautiful, loving relationship. Without prenup.

[Hallie]

Yeah, with a fat prenup.

[Alex Cooper]

No, you don't want to prenup. Not a fat prenup. That means you would get nothing. Someone's gonna come along to you and be like, I need you to sign this prenup. Like, it's a really big prenup and.

[Hallie]

You'D be like an NDA.

[Alex Cooper]

No, prenup like, shows like, what you get if XYZ happens. If it's fat, that's like, not a good thing.

[Hallie]

It's not a good thing. We want no prenup. Ideally. But like, I want to protect my money too.

[Alex Cooper]

I guess some prenups are fat. Like, there's some cheating clauses.

[Hallie]

I think a cheating clause Would be.

[Alex Cooper]

Perfect in this day and age with social media and how accessible, like, other people are to partners. Our parents didn't have fucking cheating clauses. Like, our parents didn't have prenups.

[Hallie]

When you think of prenup, you always think of, like, the man protecting his money and, like, the woman just like. But now we want to protect our own shit too, because we're standing on business and we're. She owes.

[Alex Cooper]

Yeah. I mean, we don't have that much to lose.

[Hallie]

You really have assets. If you have any assets. You don't own anything.

[Alex Cooper]

When our parents die, like, that's a different story. But, like, that's. I think that's when, like, a prenup would make sense.

[Hallie]

Like, you want to get a prenup to protect your own parents assets.

[Alex Cooper]

Like, say your parents passed away randomly. Like, you would have to be protecting their assets. So that's when you would get a prenup. I'd say I'm also acting like I'm a lawyer. Like.

[Hallie]

Yeah. Wait, how do you know you're so knowledgeable about this?

[Alex Cooper]

I mean, I'm just using logic.

[Hallie]

Okay, let's go to the next one. My ex's homeboy, he will rue. I like this girl.

[Alex Cooper]

How was it?

[Hallie]

Like, how was it? Like, that would. That would be so hot.

[Alex Cooper]

Liberating and like.

[Hallie]

Yeah. And honestly just like a big you to so many people.

[Alex Cooper]

So does that mean the homeboy.

[Hallie]

I would come so many times if I was riding someone's stick that was best friends with the guy that crossed me.

[Alex Cooper]

Does that mean that homeboy didn't like the homeboys didn't like each other?

[Hallie]

It just doesn't seem like this is a real homeboy.

[Alex Cooper]

Yeah, but like, people fuck their ex's homeboys all the time, so they're just fake homeboys.

[Hallie]

Or you could look at it like that. But also you could, like, have the outlook that maybe. I think this is how I would feel. Like maybe that guy didn't really care about me anyways. So, like, I could picture me like, oh, you can have her. You don't want that to be the case either.

[Alex Cooper]

Well, good for you. We're proud of you.

[Hallie]

Good for you. We love you.

[Alex Cooper]

Yeah.

[Hallie]

Okay, let's go to the next one. Sucked my friend's boyfriend's dick while she was ubering to the store to get me Plan B. Sorry.

[Alex Cooper]

So she sucked her boyfriend off in the meantime.

[Hallie]

That is really up.

[Alex Cooper]

That's really crazy.

[Hallie]

That's a crazy ass.

[Alex Cooper]

Girl, you're crazy for, girl. You can't be putting Your mouth on everything.

[Hallie]

It's giving, like a toddler when they're teething.

[Alex Cooper]

You should have been teething on the plan B, not the your friends.

[Hallie]

Wait, so let me get this straight. You're being a real one. Your best friend is being a real one and getting you plan B. Cu you can't get off your lazy ass to get it for yourself or Uber eats it. Which is what I do, by the way. And while she's at the store being a selfless, beautiful friend, you're sucking her man off.

[Alex Cooper]

You swallow her man's peace.

[Hallie]

Come while there's already a load in you.

[Alex Cooper]

God. You should go to the aquarium. Be a fish tank at that point.

[Hallie]

What is the fish tank reference?

[Alex Cooper]

All the swimmers in her.

[Hallie]

Oh, I thought you meant, like, she's just sucking everything like, trout mouth.

[Alex Cooper]

Or be a trout.

[Hallie]

Yeah, be a trout at the aquarium. I don't judge. But I will say that this is not a good thing.

[Alex Cooper]

That's not okay.

[Hallie]

That's not.

[Alex Cooper]

And listen, I've done only sucker.

[Hallie]

You can only suck your friend's boyfriend's cock if they're in the room. And that's the golden rule.

[Alex Cooper]

I've done it a couple of times, but, like, a different situation. But that's not okay. I was, like, 17, 18. Like, we're older now.

[Hallie]

All right, let's do one more. I gave my mom mushroom chocolate during family weekend. Didn't tell her.

[Alex Cooper]

How was she? Did you film it?

[Hallie]

No. Like, that would be something. I would love to give my mom shrooms. I feel like she would, like, really just have a different outlook on life.

[Alex Cooper]

Like, chocolates or shroom. Shrooms.

[Hallie]

Shroom, shroom chocolates.

[Alex Cooper]

Like, giggly, giggly Couple squares.

[Hallie]

And Rachel can attest to this. Rachel's in the room, by the way. Guys, we're gonna add her to the couch in a minute. Rachel witnessed this. There was a chocolate lying around. And I thought it was just, like, literally, a sweet treat last night. No, when we were in Montauk and I took it and Hunter took it, too. And we literally were freaking out for the whole fucking night. Like, we couldn't look at anything without it moving.

[Alex Cooper]

It was like anxious chocolate.

[Hallie]

We were, like, freaking out. Miles Teller was right next to us, and me, Rachel, and Hunter were all sitting on the couch at the table, head, like, in her lap, just dying, laughing. Couldn't look up. And then at the end, I feel like it got better. Like, at the tail end, it was just, like, giggles and, like, having fun. We'd be like, oh, this Is great. Everything's fine. And everything's fine. And then we'd be like. And, like, Alex is just looking at us like, what is wrong with you guys? Like, actually pull it together right now. But Mary Lou and Montauk, you could literally get away with murder there. Like, people were jumping across from table to table. Like, hopping.

[Alex Cooper]

Like frog leaping.

[Hallie]

Like frog leaping. No, I'm not even kidding. Like, scaling the walls. People just, like, were doing crazy shit online.

[Alex Cooper]

I can't do shrooms in public.

[Hallie]

You would do them before you go to bed.

[Alex Cooper]

No, like, at a friend's house or something. Like, I used to do them before I would go out, and I would be geeking out to the point where I'd have to go to the corner and put my head in the corner.

[Hallie]

You know, some people just do shrooms and they don't drink. Don't drink. And they send. It's like, the best.

[Alex Cooper]

Well, I tried. That didn't work.

[Hallie]

For this next segment, we're gonna be back in one minute. Rachel's gonna come on, and we're gonna do a fun little truth or drink segment. Rachel's on the pod. Rachel's on the pod. Hey, Rachel's on that pod.

[Alex Cooper]

What the hell?

[Hallie]

What is that?

[Rachel]

I don't know. Let's say it's toothpaste.

[Hallie]

Hopefully it's toothpaste. Whenever there's, like, a random white substance, like, stuck to my pan, I always get a little worried for what I was doing the night prior. What are you drinking?

[Rachel]

Okay. This is my favorite flavor.

[Hallie]

It's my favorite flavor. Like, it's so good with vodka.

[Rachel]

Oh, really?

[Hallie]

I'm not even biased. Like a biased ass bitch, because I'm with unwell.

[Rachel]

But no, this is my favorite.

[Hallie]

Alex crushed it with that.

[Rachel]

Yeah. Drink.

[Hallie]

Yeah.

[Rachel]

I don't see how you can top this one. Oh, my God. Can you guys see me shaking? I'm like, this is my favorite one. But wait, are we actually doing a truth or drink? I need a claw.

[Hallie]

You can drink on one.

[Rachel]

No, let me get a claw. All right, cheers. Cheers.

[Hallie]

I'm so down at your shakes. Are you in pain right now?

[Rachel]

I'm not. I'm just really shaky. I'm, like, feeling okay. I do have to lay it. Hangover.

[Hallie]

So you've delayed hangovers. So I'm like, no room for delay today, because we're going to party after this. Let's talk about our night first before we get into this next segment, because I feel like me and you are warriors, and me and Greyden were just Talking about this, actually, because he was like, I feel like Rachel could just stay out.

[Rachel]

I don't know why, but I've always been like that. I think I'm just like a night owl in general. But I also, like, don't ever want to feel left out. I, like, worry about missing out on something. Owen basically kicked us out of his room last night.

[Hallie]

Owen said, get the out of my room. He's gonna need to go to bed. I thought what's his face was coming over, not me and me fighting over a boy last night.

[Rachel]

No, listen, There was no such thing. I had no idea that Halle had been talking to this guy.

[Hallie]

Oh, we're not talking, though. That's the thing. So I, like, wasn't like I didn't feel any way about it. We're just in love.

[Rachel]

Yeah. See, and I didn't know that, but I don't care about him. I care about you. I text him.

[Hallie]

I was like, you were flirting with Rachel.

[Rachel]

No.

[Hallie]

And he was like, what are you saying? I was just, like, trying to pick a fight.

[Rachel]

We can be friends, and I'm obviously gonna choose you 10 out of 10 times.

[Hallie]

How are we gonna choose 10 out of 10 times? We can date each other. Thank you.

[Rachel]

Seriously, in this hood right now, I like having a heart to heart.

[Hallie]

Friends are like what matters most. And then men are just like labubus. Literally accessories, too. Yes, I was just about the whole picture.

[Rachel]

Attach them to your little chain.

[Hallie]

Yeah, you just attach them to your hip and they pay for things and like, whatever. But men are the boo boos.

[Rachel]

That makes me like a sex in the city, though. When Charlotte was like, let's be soul mates. And then, yeah, the guys in our life, perfect.

[Hallie]

And that guy that we're talking about is our. And I can always take him off my little belt loop.

[Rachel]

Yeah, he's yours right now. Yeah, I don't want it.

[Hallie]

No, literally. But we did have a long night, and I think I was up for 24 hours because my flight from New York.

[Rachel]

Yes, we were up for 24 hours.

[Hallie]

And I pulled an all nighter then because I thought just like sleeping on the plane was like, the best option.

[Rachel]

Wait, so you've been up for 48 hours?

[Hallie]

So I've been up for really, like, 48 hours.

[Rachel]

Are you okay?

[Hallie]

No, but I don't like the Internet.

[Rachel]

You're worse than me. Oh, my God.

[Hallie]

I just like, I'm perpetually hungover. I think I probably have a drink.

[Rachel]

I need to take a break after this weekend.

[Hallie]

I can say that.

[Rachel]

But I. I don't think we got Halloween coming up.

[Hallie]

Are you gonna come to New York for Halloween?

[Rachel]

Wait, should I?

[Hallie]

You should.

[Rachel]

Are you doing something?

[Hallie]

I'm, like, hosting the bar crawl, which is gonna be really fun.

[Rachel]

Are you, like, gonna be dressed for it?

[Hallie]

I haven't really thought about it because. Just been such a fucking hectic month.

[Rachel]

I know. I'm stressed out.

[Hallie]

Let's coordinate. Maybe we can be like, thing one and thing two.

[Rachel]

I love that idea.

[Hallie]

No, but, like, how did you think last night went?

[Rachel]

I thought it was so fun.

[Hallie]

No, it was so fun.

[Rachel]

I think that, like, when we got to the club, I think everyone's stamina left. I don't know. I felt like you could feel it. Everyone was like, okay, maybe we should leave. No, but then when we left, like, we still. Well, I was okay, but, like, also.

[Hallie]

Alex picked up, like, a new win. She was out later than she was. Alex Cooper was out later than Graydon. Alex is being so fun at the club.

[Rachel]

Oh, I didn't see that.

[Hallie]

No, it was, like, a massive table.

[Rachel]

I hope that she's, like, out to play tonight.

[Hallie]

No, that's what she kept saying. She's like. She laughed and she was like, tonight, tomorrow night's gonna be, like, okay to, like, really go. But I think that we did it properly. Do we need to go to Owens?

[Rachel]

When did we even go to sleep? No. And like, when did we leave Owens? Like, 3:30.

[Hallie]

It's probably 3:34.

[Rachel]

He legit kicked us out. We order room service. He canceled it. And he was like.

[Hallie]

He goes, I don't want anymore. You need to leave my.

[Rachel]

I have a video of him talking to the automated person, and he's like, real person. Cancel. Cancel real person. Do you remember that?

[Hallie]

Yeah. And I was like, did I say something offensive?

[Rachel]

No, he just wanted to go to sleep. I think it just hit him and he was like, if man's not coming over, I'm going to sleep.

[Hallie]

He.

[Rachel]

And then kicked us out.

[Hallie]

He was like, I'm coming, I'm coming, I'm coming, I'm coming. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.

[Rachel]

Can we talk about. Do you remember when he was like, I've been with my friend. You have to talk to him. You better be nice to him. This guy passes the phone to his friend. Do you remember what his friend was saying? Yeah, he started talking about all of his Star wars things he owns.

[Hallie]

Do you remember trolling us?

[Rachel]

Was that. That wasn't real, was it?

[Hallie]

I was like, what is going on?

[Rachel]

This guy starts listing off. I Don't know if it was like Lego Star Wars. I have no idea. I guess this guy collects Star wars or he was just bullshitting us and.

[Hallie]

We'Re like, you're making it really hard for us to be nice.

[Rachel]

But yeah, at first. At first Hallie was like, what's going on? And Mans was like, no, you need to be nice to him. So then Hallie starts being like, huh, so cool. Yeah, I don't have that one. That's really cool. I don't know. It was like the most random thing. I'm like, why are we talking about Star wars right now?

[Hallie]

No, it was so weird. And then he texted me. Like I woke up to this text this morning, but he text me like 3:30, 4:00 clock, being like, I up.

[Rachel]

Wait, so did he ever.

[Hallie]

No. Okay, we'll see how tonight goes though. We're gonna be on the pal. Was there any other cute guys that you saw? How's like your single era been? Has it been fun?

[Rachel]

No. Hi, someone date me.

[Hallie]

Hi, someone date my friend Rachel now.

[Rachel]

No, I've been so chronically single, I haven't been on a single date.

[Hallie]

Are you on the apps?

[Rachel]

No, I'm not on the apps. I'm not judging anyone who is on the apps, but I just don't think that would work well for me. But honestly, like, if it gets to a point, I might have to jump on them.

[Hallie]

I really don't typically meet up with anyone that I meet online, but actually that's a lie.

[Rachel]

No, I need you to tell me how to like get guys or like, how do you even. Because we were talking about dry spells last night.

[Hallie]

I went through a big one this year. Dry spells are important. Same for self discovery.

[Rachel]

I'm like, okay, lonely. I'm discovered.

[Hallie]

I know who I am. I'm ready for dick. That's basically where we're at.

[Rachel]

Yeah, I'm just lonely.

[Hallie]

And you want compatibility? Like, no, not compatible.

[Rachel]

I just want to like, I don't know. Yeah, like at least like flirt with someone and get excited about someone and like have a crush. I think I like gay guys. That's the problem.

[Hallie]

We've talked about this.

[Rachel]

I think, like, I have a problem.

[Hallie]

I love.

[Rachel]

I think I like people who don't like me back or like, can't like me back. Something. Something's wrong up here.

[Hallie]

I think you need to move to New York.

[Rachel]

I know.

[Hallie]

Should I? I think you need at least like a stint.

[Rachel]

Okay.

[Hallie]

Like maybe like do like a three month stint, but I need to wait till after Winter come for like the spring when it's getting like warm out again and. Or like even come for like a month and we'll go to Halle's boot camp and I'll love you.

[Rachel]

Okay.

[Hallie]

I know where all the hot men are and I will find. I think you need an older guy. I mean you need a guy that's off social media. Yeah, I think you need a straight man.

[Rachel]

Yeah, we need someone straight. That would be good. Yeah, that's on the list.

[Hallie]

Straight. On the list.

[Rachel]

Straight. Straight you think would like me? I've had multiple crushes and then I'm like, oh, they're guy one.

[Hallie]

That makes sense. A couple weekends ago I fucked this guy and he was acting like so gay. He like boofed one of my other gay friends.

[Rachel]

Wait, what does that mean?

[Hallie]

They blew a substance into his ass. This man hops up on my island that's like similar to like what's behind you right there. Hops onto my island and this is like a fully gay man. And he hops on, takes all of his clothes off. He gets on all fours, pulls his underwear down to like his butt. And then the guy who I've stuck with. Yeah, straight guy. Straight guy, Yep. I think he's bi, but like straight guy blows a substance into his ass right in front of the whole party.

[Rachel]

Well, how many people are in this room watching this?

[Hallie]

Like seven. But it was like hot. I was like the guy that like was having it done to him. He's like beautiful hot. One of my good friends. So I was like. Thought it was like funny and like kind of like we're all just so up. But it was just like kind of.

[Rachel]

Gay after the fact. When you're thinking about it, you're like, that was gay.

[Hallie]

Like then I slept with him after all after that this guy's dancing around and like whatever. After all of that, I go get into my bed.

[Rachel]

There was a part of you somewhere that was attracted to that?

[Hallie]

No. Yeah. That's the scary part. And that's where I needed not.

[Rachel]

Okay. No, I thousand percent.

[Hallie]

There's a lot of bi men. I think we like bi man. There's things.

[Rachel]

Maybe that's what it is.

[Hallie]

What I think I've realized, I think we're just in a very like 2025 is about just like being yourself. And if you're gay, you're gay. If you're by your bi and people are just more allowed about it. I think there's a lot more gay men out there than people know.

[Rachel]

Oh, I'm sure Have you heard of, like? I think it's demisexuality. I think that's what.

[Hallie]

Let me look it up. Demisexuality.

[Rachel]

Demisexual. I don't know if that's, like, the right term, but look it up.

[Hallie]

For me, demisexuality is a sexual orientation where a person experienced sexual attraction only after forming a strong emotional bond with another person.

[Rachel]

I think that's me, but I feel.

[Hallie]

Like everyone should be demisexual. That seems like a healthy thing to do. But I think this means, like, it could be girl guy, like, you would.

[Rachel]

Be like, but that's pansexual. That's why I'm confused.

[Hallie]

Are you pansexual?

[Rachel]

I don't know. What's. What's the difference between, like, pansexual and demisexual? Well, all I'm trying to say is, like, I don't think so. I say, I. I don't know. It's all a spectrum, isn't it? Is that what it's called?

[Hallie]

Like, it's all a spectrum?

[Alex Cooper]

Yeah.

[Rachel]

But I just feel like I do have to have an emotional connection with someone. Like, I just don't think I could, like, go home with anyone.

[Hallie]

That's probably why you're not having sex. Do you think you need to be emotionally bonded with someone to sleep with them?

[Rachel]

I have to feel, like, safe and comfortable with them and, like.

[Hallie]

Yeah.

[Rachel]

Be, like, emotionally invested, at least in a way that, like, I could see us, like, dating. Or I at least, like, have, like, a crush on them because of. I don't know. It's not, like, a physical attraction, I guess.

[Hallie]

So, like, you're attracted to, like, I don't know. So the bond is what brings you into a person instead of, like, you being like, oh, that person's really hot. Let me go after them.

[Rachel]

Yes. Because I don't care. Like, I can say, like, wow, that person's really attractive. Like, I obviously find them attractive. I think they're really hot. But, like. Like, I don't care after that because I'm like, they could still be, like, a terrible person or, like, have the worst personality ever. And that would make me not want to sleep with them because, like, that, like, totally turns me off. So we're like, yeah, I guess their attraction can only, like, get so far for me.

[Hallie]

Yeah.

[Rachel]

So I don't know. Maybe that's my problem. I don't know.

[Hallie]

I don't think that's a really necessarily bad thing. I think that for, you know, to be in a relationship that's, like, healthy and Strong. You need to have that foundation of, like, an emotional bond. Well, for sure, you want to feel safe with someone that's, like, the foundation of, like, a relationship. For me, at least. I'm like. For you, I'm, like, attracted. Like, personality.

[Rachel]

Like, me, too.

[Hallie]

Yes. But I also need them to, like, be hot and have, like, a nice day.

[Rachel]

But, like, how do you even know until you know?

[Hallie]

All right, let me give you this.

[Rachel]

For instance, I've been asking Halle, like, how did you get out of your dry spell? What do I need to do?

[Hallie]

I literally turn my brain off.

[Rachel]

Okay. Because I don't think I can do that.

[Hallie]

Because the guy I hooked up with was hooking up with in April, March, February, I don't know. I did those months backwards.

[Rachel]

The guys were not okay.

[Hallie]

Like, I, like, kind of had a crush on him, but I knew in the back of my mind, like, I could never introduce this guy to my family. Why?

[Rachel]

What was wrong with him?

[Hallie]

He just, like, kind of, like. He's kind of, like, unstable.

[Rachel]

Okay.

[Hallie]

And, like, I could never introduce him to my dad. They would just be like, what are you? Okay. Okay. But it was winter, and I just, like. He was silly and goofy and, like, I love funny guys.

[Rachel]

Me, too, because I just love a guy that can make laugh.

[Hallie]

So after him, I kind of took a moment, a pause, because he kind of just said, I'm not looking for a relationship. And I'd even ask him to be in one, which it felt like a double you.

[Rachel]

Yeah. So you're like, I didn't even. Like, that wasn't even. So then in my mind, how did.

[Hallie]

I just get, like, double duped? Yeah. Like, that's kind of how it felt. So after that, I was kind of.

[Rachel]

Just like, that's what caused a drive. You were like, all right, I'm gonna take a break.

[Hallie]

I was just like, I need to take a beat. And I did.

[Rachel]

It wasn't. I was just about to ask.

[Hallie]

It was, like, a subconscious beat.

[Rachel]

Okay.

[Hallie]

Because I feel like my energy also wasn't attracting men.

[Rachel]

Maybe that's my problem.

[Hallie]

Like, I feel like I wasn't, like, putting myself out there where I was, like, even seemed like I was open to that. And I feel like a lot of guys have this problem with me because I think a lot of times when I'm out, I seem super closed off. Whether it could be, like, my body language, like, sitting like this, or just, like, look like a. Yeah. So, like, I feel like I'm kind of hard to approach sometimes.

[Rachel]

I've been told that I'm hard to approach as well.

[Hallie]

I feel like you're such a cute little.

[Rachel]

Okay, thank you. Because I'm like, I don't want to, like, be hard to approach, but I.

[Hallie]

Feel like you want to be, like, a little intimidating, though. I always say that.

[Rachel]

Maybe only for guys, though. Like, I don't want to be intimidating like girls.

[Hallie]

No, no.

[Rachel]

I'm a girls girl at the end of the day, like, through and through.

[Hallie]

I know you are.

[Rachel]

So I never want girls to feel like that about me. I guess I like the idea of guys being, like, a little scared of me. I don't want to, like, you know, push them off.

[Hallie]

I feel like I was literally, like, having them, like, leave venues because of the cuntiness or that was reading in their direction.

[Rachel]

It's actually, like, kind of sickening. This.

[Hallie]

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[Rachel]

Wait, that trip looks so.

[Hallie]

It was the best of my life. We went out and like, there would be guys trying to hit on me. Remember that?

[Alex Cooper]

Yeah.

[Hallie]

And I would be like, where's Alex? Where's Lauren?

[Rachel]

But where there's other attractive guy. Like, were you, like, even attracted to them?

[Hallie]

There was like one attractive guy, but he. He like owned like a little speakeasy. And he definitely. His MO looked like he was like, every week.

[Alex Cooper]

Yeah.

[Hallie]

Girls that like, come in, he's like, come to my speakeasy. And then he like.

[Rachel]

Which is unattractive.

[Hallie]

He. A bunch of visitors. It seemed like you're like, I don't.

[Rachel]

Want to be one of them.

[Alex Cooper]

It was really dark. We saw him because we were in like a little cave speakeasy. So, like, thank God we didn't see what he looked like during the day. And we just, like, weren't horny. And Mykono.

[Hallie]

No, we weren't horny.

[Alex Cooper]

We were like.

[Hallie]

But yeah, literally, like, guys would be coming up to me. Or there was only like, I'm talking about this one guy. And I would just be like, remember, like, looking over his head and just being like, where are my friends?

[Rachel]

Like, I couldn't care less about you.

[Hallie]

I couldn't care less about you. Like, I want to hang out with my friends.

[Rachel]

I think that's me right now. But I also feel like it's because the guys that. But here's my problem. I don't know if I'm being too picky, but the few guys that have shown interest in me, I'm like, you gotta be kidding me.

[Hallie]

And that's how it always is, though, Rachel.

[Rachel]

I'm like, no, in what world?

[Hallie]

But I see you putting yourself out there. Like, you flirt with guys. Okay, let's go over these, I think. So, like, we're gonna do, like a little truth or drink segment, and I'm just gonna ask you questions, and if you don't want to answer, drink. Okay. Or you can just, like, drink and answer the questions. I'm ready. I will just, like, have fun with it. And the first one is, what is the wildest thing you've ever done in Las Vegas?

[Rachel]

Okay, honestly, I think the wildest thing at the time, it was my 21st birthday. It was like me and my friend's 21st birthday trip. And so this was the first time we could all, like, legally drink. And I think it was, what excess nightclub. Is that a thing here?

[Hallie]

We're going tonight? I think.

[Rachel]

Yes. With the chain smokers. So this is a perfect story for this.

[Hallie]

Oh, wait, this is great.

[Rachel]

When I was 21 years old, I was obsessed with the chain smokers. I thought they were both so cute.

[Hallie]

One of them single, Alex, right? Yeah. They're gonna be there tonight.

[Rachel]

I know, but it's, like, different now. I feel like I know them now because we're like, now we have mutual friends. Like, I've been around them enough to, like, I don't know, 21 me and 29 year old me. Couldn't be like, we're in different worlds.

[Hallie]

Was it like 2017?

[Rachel]

Well, this was eight years ago.

[Hallie]

Yeah, so like 2017. They were like, when, like, closer came out.

[Rachel]

Yes, exactly. Like, this is that era.

[Hallie]

Yeah.

[Rachel]

Okay. So like, this is when everyone's obsessed with them. And I spent the entire night trying to get into their little section. Like, I wanted to be a booth bitch. Exactly. So my friends, like, they're like, that's never gonna happen. They don't try. I don't see my friends the entire night because I'm trying so hard to get all of us into the booth. I spent no joke the entire night trying to get in here. Towards the end of the night, the manager looks in my face and he's like, you will never get in here. Because I can just tell, like, you think that you deserve to be in here. And I don't fuck with that. That hurt my feelings so bad that I started crying. And then he felt bad about making me cry. So guess what? He let me in. I'm not joking though. This is, like, last song. He finally was like, oh, fuck. Okay, come in.

[Hallie]

Literally, as he's like waving bye to the crowd.

[Rachel]

Yes. Yes, exactly. But I don't know if he like, felt bad after. I don't know what happened. Full 180. We get invited to their room.

[Hallie]

After it progressed.

[Rachel]

Yes. So quick. It went from 0 to 100. So me and my friends get invited to like their little suite like this and we got to post game with them. Nothing crazy happened because Drew had a girl at the time. And then like, Alex also was not giving us the time of day. But like, it was still so cool that it went from. I manifested it and like we did get to hang out with them.

[Hallie]

Yeah.

[Rachel]

In their hotel room. I didn't. After that. I like, like probably stood in the corner and didn't say a single word because I just was like, this is so cool.

[Hallie]

But the manager was an.

[Rachel]

I don't know, like he was all of a sudden nice in the room.

[Hallie]

So he did 182.

[Rachel]

Yes. I think he really did feel bad about making me cry. It wasn't like that crazy. But like, that's a story that. That was my very first time ever coming to Vegas. We got home at like, you know, 7, 8am And I was like, life is so cool. And now I'm like, that's not crazy at all. But at the time when I was 21.

[Hallie]

Yeah. No, that is actually great 21st birthday.

[Rachel]

Honestly, it was so fun. But like. Yeah, actually the rest of I. I don't have like any like crazy Vegas stories other than. Yeah. Being able to like sneak up to the Chainsmokers hotel room.

[Hallie]

I kind of love that. Okay. Have you ever woken up next to someone and not remember their name? I feel like this is not your vibe.

[Rachel]

No. Everyone I've ever hooked up with, I obviously know who they are. I've never like had a one night stand or anything. Guys, I'm. Yeah. I'm such a.

[Hallie]

She's so pure.

[Rachel]

No, I'm like, exactly. I. And like, I don't know what it is. I think that I feel icky about myself. I don't know.

[Hallie]

I.

[Rachel]

Again, I need therapy because, like, no, I need. I'm like always like cheering for everyone else. I'm like, yes. I don't like, I love it. But for some reason, for me it.

[Hallie]

Just makes you feel degraded. See, I have like a degrading kink. So, like, I like to feel that way.

[Rachel]

We did talk about this last week.

[Hallie]

We did.

[Rachel]

Because I said I'm like really boring. I want like Notebook. Like the Notebook sex.

[Hallie]

She wants like emotional sex.

[Rachel]

Yeah. I want like vanilla yes. Like, we probably couldn't be more opposite.

[Hallie]

I want, like, this shape of me in the bed, like, through a wall. That's like, what she wants to be.

[Rachel]

Taped at the end of. Feel like Halle was here.

[Hallie]

And I also, like, let every man, like, record me.

[Rachel]

Well, wait, I meant tape. As in, like, oh, murder, crime scene tape.

[Hallie]

I want that too. But, like, I let every man record me. That's like, one of my kinks.

[Rachel]

Wait, really?

[Hallie]

Yeah.

[Rachel]

But why do you like that? Is it, like, because you're, like, nervous about it maybe?

[Hallie]

It's like, I'm a theater here.

[Rachel]

It's like you're putting a show on.

[Hallie]

It's like I'm putting on a show. Like, especially when I'm, like, giving a guy head. I always give them, like, like, the option to record because I feel like it's.

[Rachel]

You're like, watch this back later, baby.

[Hallie]

No, I was like, you're gonna miss me when he watches back. I mean, I get that. That's like, how I think.

[Rachel]

Yeah.

[Hallie]

And then I think it's hot. But I also need therapy, so.

[Rachel]

I am really bad about remembering people's names. But, like, I've never woken up once.

[Hallie]

I was riding this guy and I completely forgot who I was writing mid rise.

[Rachel]

Did you call him the wrong name?

[Hallie]

No, but I was like, that's how I thought of it. I was like, yeah, baby. Is that. Wait, Dan.

[Alex Cooper]

No, literally.

[Hallie]

I'm sick. What's kinky fantasy you've acted on, guys?

[Rachel]

I'm really boring. I don't know. I guess, like, the only thing.

[Hallie]

You're a lover girl.

[Rachel]

I am a lover girl. I will say, like, the kinkiest thing is probably, like, public sex.

[Hallie]

Yeah.

[Rachel]

Or just, like, having sex where I should.

[Hallie]

The idea of getting caught. Yeah.

[Rachel]

But, like, I don't. I. But I really don't want to get caught. Like, that doesn't turn me on. Like, if. If someone did anxiety. I have been walked in on before.

[Hallie]

Really?

[Rachel]

It is. Oh, my God. It's like the most mortifying experience you could ever. I don't know.

[Hallie]

My mom's walked in on me.

[Rachel]

That couldn't be worse.

[Hallie]

Having anal.

[Rachel]

Oh, my.

[Hallie]

You were 16.

[Rachel]

No, see, like that. That beats.

[Hallie]

I'll pull out that ruba.

[Rachel]

Oh, my God.

[Hallie]

Because the TV was on. Because it was. We were on a picture. So you didn't hear about my boyfriend.

[Rachel]

Yeah.

[Hallie]

And my mom was just like, oh, I need to turn off this tv. Walks in so bad. I'm having anal. My boyfriend.

[Rachel]

That is so bad. I was like, did she just turn around.

[Hallie]

Judy said, Jesus. I was like, damn.

[Rachel]

See, mine was at least my boyfriend at the time's friends. Still mortifying. And like none of us ever spoke about it because it was just like that.

[Hallie]

Oh, I would be like, this is so funny.

[Rachel]

I know. Like, I don't know why it was just mortifying at the time because they were like one of his work friends. Reliving it now like, makes me want to crawl out of my skin. And it wasn't public though. Like we were in the hotel room, they just walked in. So that was awful.

[Hallie]

But like, what were your college days like? Like, did you ever like have sex in the same room as your roommate?

[Rachel]

No, because like we all had our own room. But honestly, in high school, like me and my best friend, we would like hook up in the same bed or like she'd be hooking up with her boyfriend right next to me and I would just be laying there like vice versa. Like, I don't know why, we just didn't care. We were kinkier in high school than I am now as a almost 30 year old woman. We'd like sneak out and get. Oh my God, if my parents over here there's gonna be distraught. We would sneak out, we'd get picked up in like the big lifted trucks. Like, I don't know. That's how I know exactly what you're talking about. We'd like sneak out, hop in their trucks. She'd be in the back seat, I'd be in the front seat. Or like vice versa. With like the guy I was dating at the time and his friend. Or like the guy.

[Hallie]

Oh, see, you were fun.

[Rachel]

I haven't acted like that in so long.

[Hallie]

I think what you need is to embody your 21 year old self.

[Rachel]

I know, I know.

[Hallie]

Just say it. We ride.

[Rachel]

You know what it is, everyone? I think that now that we're just like more like publicly known. I'm like honestly scared about someone just like deciding to like, I don't know, make a TikTok or like go on a podcast and put me on blast. I have no idea.

[Hallie]

Oh my God. I don't know. I should have that fear. But like, I like, I like everyone dressed up. They would have good things to say. I hope they go on a podcast.

[Rachel]

See, that's why I'm like a little insecure to where I'm like, I don't.

[Hallie]

Know if you don't know if you have the craft.

[Rachel]

That's what I was about to say. Like, I don't know if they would have good things to say about me or not. Because it's been.

[Hallie]

That's. You're an insanely beautiful and gorgeous girl.

[Rachel]

And also insanely. First off, shut up. But, like, beautiful, gorgeous girls, writing.

[Hallie]

A man's, like, writing can also, like.

[Rachel]

Be really bad in bed.

[Hallie]

I don't think you're bad in bed. I don't get that vibe from you.

[Rachel]

It's been a minute. So I guess, you know, you can tell someone. I gotta rip the band aid off.

[Hallie]

You gotta rip the band aid off.

[Rachel]

I know, but, like, it's been so long at this point that it might hurt. Yeah, I'm worried about that. It's just been so long that I don't know if you, like.

[Hallie]

Are there new positions I don't know about?

[Rachel]

Yeah, I don't know. I'm like, God, it's been a long time. I don't. Yeah, it's like. It'll be like, is there anything new happening? Like, what's new in sex?

[Hallie]

I think what you need is you need to go on a date with one person that you have a crush on. Go on a few dates, get comfortable with them, and then go from there.

[Rachel]

I feel like a virgin again.

[Hallie]

Okay.

[Rachel]

I don't think that we've, like, discussed. Guys, I haven't had sex way longer than you think. I'll just put it that way. Tell them it's been years. Okay. It has been so long.

[Hallie]

That is crazy.

[Rachel]

And that's what I'm saying. Like, I feel like a virgin again. To where? I don't want to just give it up to anyone.

[Hallie]

It's like, almost like.

[Rachel]

Like, I can't just, like, hook up with someone random at this point because it's been so long that, like, I want it to be incredible.

[Hallie]

You almost, like, feel like you've gone to, like, the. The first person that, like, breaks that seal or, like, kind of has to, like.

[Rachel]

You're right. When I.

[Hallie]

Meaning about you don't want it to.

[Rachel]

Be a random person.

[Hallie]

No. Yeah.

[Rachel]

That's why I'm like. I think that's why I am a lover girl. Because I feel like how we felt when we were, like, in high school. I don't know. I'm not gonna say, like, everyone felt like this, but you know how, like, everyone just makes, like, losing your virginity, like, such a big deal, and it's like, someone special. That's how I feel.

[Alex Cooper]

I'm like.

[Rachel]

Like, I can't just, like, give it up to just anyone.

[Hallie]

No.

[Rachel]

Like, I want it to be special.

[Hallie]

No. I. I think that there's nothing wrong with that.

[Rachel]

Oh my God.

[Hallie]

And I. I'm manifesting that you're gonna get that in the next six months, but.

[Rachel]

Okay. Yeah.

[Hallie]

You need to get our girl aid.

[Rachel]

Seriously, guys, help or just like, I.

[Hallie]

Feel like once you just like.

[Rachel]

I don't know. I just want to crush and then like, we'll just see. I want a crush that CR is crushing on me back. Like, I want it to be like, mutually crushing. Yeah. And like, like, just like we said, like a little emotional.

[Hallie]

You want a honeymoon phase?

[Rachel]

Let's crush on each other. Let's like, let me think, like, I'm about to fall in love again and then break my heart. I don't care. I'll go through another heartbreak. I don't care.

[Hallie]

Honestly. Heartbreak.

[Rachel]

Feel loved again.

[Hallie]

Heartbreak brings a redemption arc era.

[Rachel]

Okay.

[Hallie]

Because then you get like hot after every heartbreak. I fully believe that.

[Rachel]

So maybe I just need my heartbroken over and over and over.

[Hallie]

I mean, we won't go for that, but I wouldn't say a heartbreak would be the end of it.

[Rachel]

But like, I'm open for it. My heart is open. Yeah, I'm ready to get heartbroken.

[Hallie]

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[Rachel]

Okay.

[Hallie]

And then we can wrap it up.

[Rachel]

We gotta go to a pool party, guys.

[Hallie]

We gotta go to the pool party.

[Rachel]

Hilton.

[Hallie]

Who is the a celebrity you risk it all for?

[Rachel]

I don't know, it changes like every week. It's weird. Like, it used to be. I used to have such a crush on Glenn Powell. But, like, it just comes and goes. It's like whatever I'm watching at the time.

[Hallie]

Yeah.

[Rachel]

I'm trying to think of, like, who's a recent person. And that's another thing. I don't like, really crush out on celebrities because I don't know them. And I'm like, they could be the worst.

[Hallie]

No, because now, like, you don't like.

[Rachel]

And like, we do come across across people a lot.

[Hallie]

Yeah, it's just like kind of like you might run into them, you know.

[Rachel]

Who, like when you know who, like, so, so, so attractive and will always be so attractive to me. And I don't know him. And like. Oh, my God. Sure. I was gonna say Channing Tatum, but.

[Hallie]

I never got that watch.

[Rachel]

Step up and get back to me.

[Hallie]

Well, that's like 2000s, Channing.

[Rachel]

I know, but like, he still looks so handsome to me because he's like in his 40s and like, I just still think he looks great date. But I don't know him. Like, that's.

[Hallie]

He could help a girl out.

[Rachel]

But that's another thing. I think he is dating someone who's younger than me. So, like, I, I feel like he would be open, but I don't. Again, he could be Like, I don't know, he could.

[Hallie]

He could seem like a sweet guy.

[Rachel]

I don't know. He does seem so sweet.

[Hallie]

But Jacob Elordi for me and Austin Butler.

[Rachel]

I love Jacob Elordi, but, like, I love Olivia and like, I feel like they've been together for so long, so I feel weird.

[Hallie]

No, I know. I feel weird saying that too. Because then again, like, we might be in the same room. They're like, yeah, you never know. You never know.

[Rachel]

I was just with Olivia for F1. I love her so much. And she was talking about Jacob, so.

[Hallie]

Like, I feel like, sorry, Olivia.

[Rachel]

No, she knows. Like, she knows.

[Hallie]

She knows what she's doing.

[Rachel]

Yeah. Like, you go, girl. And she also was just seen at dinner with Glenn. I'm like, God, you can't have it all. Also obsessed with her. And she always gets Kai Gerber's like.

[Hallie]

Also Joey Kravitz also has obsessed with her too.

[Rachel]

So true. She always has.

[Hallie]

I love you so much. This is really fun. You should come on more. I feel like we have a lot and talk for hours, to be honest.

[Rachel]

I know. I love talking to you. I feel like you're so good at this too.

[Hallie]

We just. It's chill.

[Rachel]

I just felt like this was a little therapy session.

[Hallie]

Very comfy and cozy. I like how you're sitting. Chris Ross Applesauce.

[Rachel]

I've been like this. I've been like this.

[Hallie]

You feel safe on that dirty couch?

[Rachel]

I took my shoes off. I love it.

[Hallie]

But anyways, we have to go party with Paris Hilton now. As always, you can find me on YouTube and you can watch me on YouTube and find me on any other platform like comment, share to your friends. Five stars. All the good things.

[Rachel]

Damn, that was good.

[Hallie]

Took a breath out of me. Wow. But anyways, love you guys. Bye. Trouble meeting your soulmate?

[Rachel]

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