
Hallie is back SOLO and the sun is shining, which means chaos is on the horizon! This week, she kicks things off with a wild Fourth of July college story that starts in Nantucket and spirals into private jets, suspicious movie sets, and a surprise cameo in a Riff Raff music video... yes, really. Hallie spills on the infamous Mr. Mustache Man, the time she signed up for Seeking Arrangements, and her take on the highs (and many lows) of dating rich men for the bag. Hallie responds to your DMs, breaks down her four-tier system for confessing a crush and takes a relationship readiness quiz to find out if she's actually ready for something serious or if she's just f*cking horny. Love you! It's Extra Scandalous! Follow @extradirty on socials to follow along with Hallie and if you love what you hear, leave a review and subscribe to keep the chaos coming.
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Multi vehicle discount Safe driver discount New vehicle discount Storage discount How many discounts will you stack up? Tap the banner or visit usaa.com autodiscounts restrictions apply. Are you willing to compromise and put the needs of someone else before yours at times? That sounds like a lot of work. No. Depends what needs they are. I'm not doing their laundry. Okay, guys, I'm feeling really stupid right now. We have an emergency debrief situation. Hi, this is Halle from the streets of New York. Guys. I had every intention of staying in last night. Okay, guys. Welcome back to Extra Dirty. We're doing another Soul episode. Hopefully you're not sick of me yet in these solos. But I think honestly they're really therapeutic for me to just like talk through stories and like healing in a way. I thought we'd kick off this episode and just like kind of rip a story like this. It's getting warmer out. Summer is approaching. It makes me reflect on my college days in the summers in between, where I would run around the beaches in the streets of Nantucket, finding, you know, men. Well, at the time they were younger, but like, kind of men. There was this one story that I had in mind. It was probably our first experience or my first experience with like an older gentleman. And also my first experience with like a celebrity kind of too. And it wasn't me. It was actually someone that I was one of my roommates in college, one of my best friends. She gave me permission to talk about this story. And honestly, it's just like too good not to get into. I'm not gonna say his name because he's the type of man that would probably send a cease and desist. But if you look up only in America by riff raff, the ones that know it, know it, you will know who I'm talking about. Pretty Quickly, but let's begin. So it all started July 2, 2016. It was the summer between. I believe it was between my freshman in my sophomore year and I had my roommate living with me. We were just hostessing on Nantucket, which is what we would do all summer. We would basically host this for like two hours a day and then go out and rip it at night and then go to the beach during the day and then like hostess for like two hours and then like it would continue. It was like a summer that was like a full fucking bender. I remember I was literally like, by the end of it, I was had sleep paralysis demons because I was drinking way too much. But anyways, this man with a mustache, we'll call him Mr. Mustache man, he's an actor. I don't know, I would say he was probably like an A minus list actor at some point in his career. At the time he was 38 years old. We were 19. It was around the 4th of July and the 4th of July in Nantucket. For people who don't know, it's like one of the biggest weekends on Nantucket. Everyone's fucking ripping it. The beaches are packed, there's cops everywhere. Like, it's one of the biggest weekends the island sees. So anyways, there's parties leading up to 4th of July. So it was July 2nd. There's parties on the beach. The beaches are packed with a bunch of college students. And Mr. Mustache man, he and his manager were roaming the beaches and I don't know if they were roaming for some college girls or what, but they found him. So they ended up finding my roommate on the beach. And he sends his manager over and he goes, I want that one. So the manager comes up to my roommate and was like, Hi, I'm with Mr. Mustache Man. He was wondering if he could take your number. Like he's interested and would like to see you later. And my roommate was like, wait, that Mr. Mustache man. And like he's like in the back, like 100ft behind him and he's like waving kind of. And he's like, yeah, that Mr. Mustache man. She's like, yeah. Like she knew exactly who he was and was like, this is so cool. This is so exciting. And like, we're all around her being like, oh my God, you have to do it. Like, this would be a sick story. So we gave him. I'm saying we as if, like, it was like a dual quest. But no, she gave him her number and he ends up hitting her up being like, hi. Like I to see you please don't tell anyone. Like, I'm texting you. Like, change my contact name to something else. Like, off the bat, he was being really sus and really sketchy. But, like, for the plot. Do it for the plot. Like, at the end of the day, especially when you're in college, even if, you know, like, you're in a alarming situation, maybe you're a little bit naive. I mean, as most college girls are. Do it for the plot. And it honestly makes for a great story, because this is just the beginning of the chaos that in entailed. So anyways, my roommate's staying with me, and she stayed with me all summer, and she was like, okay, can I bring Mr. Mustache man back to your house? My parents at the beach, and they're like, you can't have a party. You can't have a pregame. You can't have nothing. But I was like, But, mom, like, Mr. Mustache man is here, and, like, he's with his manager, and we were just, like, playing beer pong in the back, and she's like, what the. She thought I was with her because she knows exactly who this actor is, too. Like, he's a pretty famous actor. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Production agrees. Yeah, very famous actor. So anyways, they hook up. They're hooking up in my outdoor shower. They're hooking up on, like, the love sack in my basement. Like, they're right off the bat, he, like, takes her into my outdoor shower because we're all playing beer pong in the back, and he goes down on her standing up in the outdoor shower. And I was like, honestly, this man's bold. But, like, this is hilarious. We're, like, sneaking pictures of him and, like, sending it around, whatever. We thought it would just end there. This, like, little rendezvous with this little famous actor who is, like, a little bit older than us, but, like, not. I mean, the age gap was a little alarming, but it was legal, so it was fine. Anyways, they keep in contact. Like, he is facetiming her. He is texting her. He added her on Snapchat, which I'm shocked he even knew what the that was. Anyways, he goes. He was filming a movie in New York City, so he had a Soho loft rented out and everything. So he texted her or called her up one day and was like, listen, I want to fly you and your friends out to New York, and I want you to stay at my loft, and I want to have, like, a fun New York weekend with you and your friends. It'll be really cool and fun. And she was like, fuck yeah, I feel like we have to go. And I was like, kind of. I'm not a naive person. I'm pretty street smart and can read people pretty well. And I've been able to do that from a pretty young age. And I was like, I don't know. I was also still talking to my ex boyfriend from high school at the time. And he was hating this. He was like hating the idea of me going to New York with some random man that like, kind of, you don't know. Like, actors are sketchy. Like, I've been over this with actors. Like, they're kind of suspect. But I was like, you know what? Fudge it. Like, this is a once in a lifetime thing. Like, he's famous. This is so cool. Oh my God, let's go to New York City. Let's go in the loft. Like working. We can go to LF and take pictures in Soho. Like, I thought it was so sick. I told my parents, my dad's like, fudge, yeah, do it. Which by the way, is fudgeing insane. But like, all my friends who went with us didn't tell any of their parents. So we went, okay. So we get to the loft, he's filming. So his manager lets us up into the loft. The loft is stocked with like pounds, like pounds of weed everywhere in alcohol. And may I just like remind you, this man, he's fully sober, which you wouldn't think based off of some of his roles and movies, but he's a completely sober man. Also the type of man that will take a tomato and eat it like an apple. Like, I literally watched him do it. He's that kind of like very mysterious. Doesn't talk much, has a hat on with his mustache. And he doesn't say much, but he contributes in a way that's like very. Like, he has an interesting demeanor. So anyways, we were like, this is sick. This so loft is like packed with alcohol and weed. And we were like, this is so cool. We're so cool. This is sick. So anyways, he's filming and it was time for dinner. So we go out to dinner with his manager. He's an older bald man. So it's like picture this. We're at this very fancy Italian restaurant with some old bald man and it's like five 19 year old girls. Like, it just like looks like a very suspect image from like a third person perspective. But like really, like, this is so cool. We're like hanging out with the manager, really getting in the scene. And then we linked up with him later. So he had a whole itinerary packed for us. Like, he had things planned, one of them being a Guns N Roses concert. Because he was going to play. Like, was it. Who's the leader of Guns N Roses? Kiss. Like, the guy that's like, yeah, Axl Rose. He was, like, gonna play Axl Rose in some fucking movie, so he was gonna meet Axl Rose. So he brought us to Guns N Roses. We're vip. He's, like, finger blasting my roommate, the whole concert. And me and, like, my other girlfriends are just kind of, like, standing there. Like, we're in, like, ga. Like, we're in. But, like, we're like, people are behind us, next to us. Like. Like, I'm pretty sure I have a picture, like, my Snapchat memories of this whole moment, because we were like, oh, my God, he's literally fingering my friend underneath her skirt at this concert. And then we're supposed to meet Axl Rose after. But then Axl Rose was taking, like, too long or something, and he's, like, a very impatient person, Mr. Mustache Man. So he's like, fuck this. We're leaving. So we go back to New York, and we ended up going to this interactive play in Brooklyn. And when I say this was the weirdest experience of my whole life, I. It was like a play that, like, you. You would walk through the space and also interact with elements of the play. One of the. So you'd walk in. It kind of, like, seemed like a white lotus thing. I remember there being, like. Like, sand everywhere, and they would greet with tropical cocktails. And then you'd walk through the space, and there would be, like, a section where, like, someone would be talking to you about something random. And then you'd go to another section, and there'd be, like, an open casket, and you would have to, like, lie open casket and pretend like you're in a burial. And, like, someone would give, like, a ceremony for you, and then you, like, move into the next room. That was, like, heaven. And, like, while you're walking through all these rooms and spaces, they're, like, handing you more drinks and more alcohol. But I just remember that being really weird because it was in this random, like, garage in Brooklyn, and I was like, how did you even find this? Like, are we getting kidnapped and are we getting murdered? Like, I was freaking out, like, scared. But the alcohol was helping. After that, we went to the Box, which is a live. Basically, like, it's not, like a live sex show, but it's like a. I would say it's more than a burlesque show. Like their dicks hanging out and they're whipping the dicks and the drinks and like they're taking shits on stage. Like they have a bunch of different crazy live acts on stage and you're just like, mind blown and it feels like you're in a fudgeing fever dream. But it's also like super entertaining and like a fudgeing vibe. And I would highly recommend going at least once in your lifetime if you either live in London or New York, because it is fun, but it's a lot and it's not for everyone. So they were hooking up all weekend and we were just kind of like, right. I was just kind of riding the coattails of the experience. So after the New York trip, okay, like they're still vibing, they're still talking, it's all fun. He comes back to Nantucket because, mind you, we're still spending our whole summer out there. We're working, we're being a hostess and girl bossing, et cetera, et cetera. He comes back to New York and goes, listen, girls, I have a proposal for you. And we were like, okay, what Mr. Mustache Man? Like, what do you have for us? He goes, would you like to be in this music video for Riff Raff? For Riff Raff, guys, out of all people. He was like, would you like to be in Riff Raff's music video? The idea of it's going to be like kind of resembling spring breakers. And the song is called Only in America. I want you guys to like Google search Only in America by Riff Raff and you're gonna see this whole thing take like. Like we were in a full fucking production. We had wigs on that were the color of the American flag. He rented a jeep. We had hair and makeup. He got a boat with a tube. He rented out the Chicken Box on Nantucket, which is a very popular bar. And like we were basically his background dancers. There is one scene which I opted out of being in because my ex boyfriend, which I mentioned I was still talking to at the time, I just didn't feel comfortable with like this one scene. And I also think I got pink eye or something. Like a piece of sand got my eye or something. Like I couldn't continue the filming. It was a three day filming thing. For this music video. He was like lying on the pool table of the Chicken Box and had all the girls, all the background dancers, including my roommates and our cousins, just like Rubbing his body down, like, as he's like, like, mouthing the lyrics to this riff raff song. And it was just. I remember being so insane because everyone on the island knew what we were up to. And, like, we thought we were being so sick and cool and, like, we're like, we're in a music video. What are you doing? But everyone was definitely like, these girls are out of their damn minds. But again, like, who else is in a music video? Like, that's such good lore to have. It's in the music video is hilarious. The song horrible. No offense. Love you, riff Raff. But I remember that being one of the funnier things that I've ever done. And I thought that would be the end of it then. But then he flew out to Boston, which is where I live, which is where my roommate lives, and he got a hotel for my roommate. And then they were hooking up there, and then she was like, okay, I'm going back to college. Like, this is insane. Like, I can't date this man. I can't, like, bring this man home to my parents. Um, he's, like, kind of suspect and sketchy and, like, she was gonna be a junior in college. She had, like, college boys that she had crushes on too, that she really wanted to explore as well. And this is where things get interesting. She was trying to cut things off with this guy, kind of speaking to him less, not picking up as many of the FaceTime, just, like, kind of letting things play out as one does when they're trying to get rid of a man. She gets back to campus and she starts hooking up with one of the seniors, and she, like, likes this guy a lot. And she's like, you know what? Like, I'm just gonna ride this wa act off with Mr. Mustache Man. All of a sudden, we get a school wide email. A school wide email being like, Mr. Mustache man is filming a movie on Union campus between these dates. And we were all, like, gobsmacked. We were like, there is no way that this man is filming a movie on our campus. So obviously she's like, oh, God. Like, I'm gonna, like, the rumors had kind of been like, fl. Because, you know, things are getting documented over the summer. Like, people that knew. Like, people knew on campus. It was a very, very small school. So rumors got out pretty quickly. And so when he confirmed that he was going to be on campus for this movie that was being filmed, everyone was, like, freaking the out. So anyways, he ended up coming to campus with a massive film crew. Like, cameras, production, like, you name it, they were on campus just filming a movie. By the way, the sketchiest part about this whole thing is that the movie never came to, like, never came out. Like, we've never seen this movie. I swear that he just, like, did this just to see her and got all these camera crew and production, everything to come with him just to, like, make an excuse to, like, go on that campus. Because, like, why, out of all the places you could film a movie, would you go to Schenectady, New York, on a college campus that your ex lover goes to? Like, it just seemed a little suspect. So anyways, my roommate, who's like, you know, a sweet little angel pie, like, she's in biochem, like, that is at the library, in and out. And I remember he came and, like, everyone's freaking house. Her phone's out, and he, like, plucks her out of library, and he, like, pulls her onto his lap, and she's like, oh, dear God, like, this is not happening. But after that, you know, like, he was literally in the dorms. Like, he wanted. Like, we're, like, we almost brought him to the frat party. Like, that's where it was. And that would have been hilarious. But that didn't end up happening. But, yeah, that was our story with Mr. Mustache Man. And honestly, I hope he's doing well. He was a really nice guy. Really nice to me. But, you know, it builds lore. Honestly, I want to have that roommate on. She has a real corporate job, so, you know, that's why I asked permission to tell this story. But I think that I need to have her on eventually because she, one, has the best stories. This, she'll say yes to anything. Two, she knows all my good stories that summer. Like, a little blurry for me that I don't remember that. Maybe I hide in the trenches of my brain, but she has been there for pretty much every feral situation that I've ever been a part of. So maybe I'll try to get her on in the next month or so. This is for all the business that listen to Extra Dirty. Whether it's a side hustle or building a global empire, Shopify's got you. With Shopify, you can become an entrepreneur today. It's a platform that not only makes it easy to start a business, but it grows with you too. 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Mature now that we're kind of diving into like, you know, talking about summer and older men and college and parties and free games, let me tell you guys what the time I signed up for Seeking Arrangements, you know. Okay, let me rephrase that. I felt like I had to sign up for Seeking Arrangements because I got kicked out of the house for a short period of time because I threw a banger in my Boston house and it went wrong. I used to have pre games all the time, like in high school and college. Like, I felt like it was a safe bet because I live in the city of Boston and it eliminated, you know, parking so kids weren't drunk driving. And it was, it was like safer for that option because you literally had to Uber. But like, when I was in college, I'm also closer to the bars in Boston, so it worked out better that way. So it was like my friend's friend's birthday or it was my friend's birthday and I was like, oh my God, I'll pre game. Like, no problem. And someone ended up throwing up on the carpet of my parents bedroom. And you know, things happen at parties. Like people get sick, especially when you're young and in college and you're still figuring out like your limits and how to drink. I did not like, in hindsight, I don't blame that girl. It's not the girl's problem. She threw up and like, it just happens. But during the time it was a big deal. And I think it was mainly a big deal because this happened in my parents bedroom. And why did it happen in my parents bedroom on the third floor? Because the cops came. Because it kind of turned into a banger pregame. Like, I like to have a good time. The music was bumping, the speakers were, were getting blown out. It was a whole thing and I did not care. I was just like let's rip it and go to the bars. Anyways, the police came. The girl, I think she went up to hide from the police, as one does, and she threw up on the carpet. And I did not know that this carpet was imported from Milan and, you know, sewn together by, you know, blind nuns or something. That's what my parents made it seem like because they were like, this is like a thirty thousand dollar carpet. Like it's irreplaceable. Like they were. I've never seen my dad scream louder, yell at me louder. He was so mad. They were both so mad at me. And what did I do? Instead of getting a professional cleaner to clean it, I poured bleach on it and it just destroyed the whole thing. And then I got a lot of anxiety so I went to Nantucket. I think it was Memorial Day weekend fagawi. So I was like, it, I'm getting out of here before they get home. And I booked it to Nantucket and I got home, it was a nightmare. They were like, like I had to leave the house for a few days. And he was like, you're cut off. Like all this and the words, you're cut off, they cut deep. Especially to a girl in her twenties that makes no dime or dollar to her own self. I was a hostess at sand on nantucket making like 12 bucks an hour. That's not going to support my lifestyle. No. So I geeked out. I was like, I have to sign. I need a sugar daddy. Now My father has left the chat. I need a sugar daddy. And I think a lot of people sign up for seeking arrangements at some point in their early 20s. I think that's a normal thing now it's like feet picks and only fans. Back then it was like seeking arrangements. I want to note that I never went on a single date with any of these men that I talked to online. I got too nervous and scared and like, didn't want to be in the next episode of like 60 minutes. It's not a safe thing to do. And like, if you're on Seeking Arrange. This is not like an ad for Seeking Arrangements. I just want to make that clear. Don't do that. There's other ways. Like I would sell a picture of your, you know, of your toes before go, like going on a date with a random stranger that you don't know. Okay. I just want to make that very clear to everyone. So yeah, I signed up for Seeking Arrangements. And you know, I didn't personally go on a date with anyone, but like a lot of my friends did do that. And, you know, I didn't judge. I don't judge here. This is a judgment free zone. But, like, the thought. So seeking arrangements, basically, like, there's different tiers to it. You can go. Some of these men are just lonely and they want company of a beautiful girl or, like, their kink is to, like, give and like, gift give and, like, take people out to lavish dinners or, you know, lavish experiences. And just like, being company of a beautiful woman. A lot of it's that and, like, for like a grand just to, like, go, go out to dinner that's paid for. It kind of seems like a win win situation here. Like, I get why people do it. Like, it's. I honestly, like, me even talking about it now, I'm like, maybe I could do a side hustle thing, situation thing there. But the only aspect of it that's unappealing to me is that most of these men are weird freaks and it's not safe and they're kind of creepy and they all say, oh, no sexual favors. They all, like, they're men. At the end of the day, they all want a sexual favor, a little rub and tug underneath the table. I don't know, but it just didn't seem like a safe option for me. I didn't end up going on any of the dates, but, like, no shame to anyone that actually goes through with that. Something I would do that I've heard about recently. I don't know if anyone's been on this wave. It's been on my for you page a lot for some reason, which I don't know if that says anything about me and my algorithm, but I've learned a lot more about yacht girls. I don't know if you guys know any yacht girls, but it kind of seemed like an escort situation, a seeking arrangement situation. But like, final boss, like, you get to just go on a yacht, be pretty tan, go on vacation, but in the company of these rich men that can afford such things. And I don't know if these girls are putting out or not. I would assume someone's putting out because typically you don't get flown out. I mean, in my experience, you don't get flown out and taken out on a yacht if you're not paying them in some shape or form. Like, there. It has to be an exchange of goods, in my opinion. But yeah, yacht girls, that's something that, you know, on my free page, everyone's, like, judging these girls that, like, just basically get paid to, like, go on these yachts with these rich men. That sounds like a dream to me. Like, where do you, like, where do you sign up to do that? Like, I'm asking, like, people in the comments, please let me know DM me. Like, maybe I'll be a yacht girl this summer. Like, that just sounds like, amazing, like an amazing experience. You get to travel new places all on their dime. I mean, as long as I don't have to suck anyone off and just be like, good company, I would do that. I don't see any shame in that. But maybe my head is all up, screwed up. Maybe I'm just mentally ill and I think that's okay. Again, I'm not suggesting you travel with random rich men that you don't know. But again, maybe, maybe weigh your options. Maybe it could open doors. Maybe you'll fall in love. Who knows? Who knows, guys? But anyways, I just want to like, give my little input on that and like any other, like, Internet lore guys that you want me to touch on anything on your for you page. Honestly, anything you want my opinion on, just DM me because I love yapping about random and I'm like, constantly online. Like, it's a problem. I need to put my phone down. My screen time, I think this week was like 20 hours a day, which is a problem. And I need to be stopped. I'm getting looks from production right now. I know, I know it's bad, but I also sleep with my computer open. So it's like, it's not that bad. I need white noise in the back at all times or else I feel like I'm gonna reflect on my own demons and feelings. So I try to like, cancel out the thoughts in my head with brain rot tv, which is a life hack that I don't know is like, I can't. I don't know if I can bring that into like my 80s if we make it that far. But that is my life hack for my 20s right now. Anyways, let's get into more DMS that you guys send me or just my DMs in general. Let's talk about my DMs. Actually. I got asked out on date the other day, which since I've mentioned on here on this podcast that, that, you know, no one asked me out because I'm a. I have been getting more dms and some of them have been like, pretty cute. And I've been like, okay, stay. So I did answer this one guy because we had mutuals and he like asked me out to drinks and I was like, you know what? Yeah. And I still might go out to drinks with this guy. I'm also really not good at replying to people in real time. I'll literally reply seven days later, seven business days later. And be like, hey, yeah, following up on this. So he asked me out and I said, sure, I'm down. And then he followed up and was like, wait, are you still down? You know, the weekend's coming up. And I just like, didn't reply. Honestly, I didn't really see it. And then he follows up like 12 hours later and goes, pathetic. He called me pathetic. And I was like, this is the Nerf. So I reply, I go, excuse me, I didn't answer your message prior. And he goes, I just wanted to get your attention. And I was like, wait, that worked. Because I replied, I don't think I would have replied unless he insulted me, which I'm not suggesting to the men that are watching this that that's a great thing to do. But the toxic in me was like, okay, wait, you've caught my attention because. Excuse me. So what did I do? I gave him my number. I'm a problem and I need to seek therapy. Yeah, so maybe I'll see him this weekend. Maybe not. I don't know. I'll let you guys know. But like, maybe it could be slay because I like. I like a guy with a little bite but not too much bark, you know, like, calling me pathetic was insane, but it was a good conversation starter. I don't know. Anyways, let's get into some DMS from you guys. I'll keep you guys posted and like, stay tuned if I go on this day and you'll hear all about it before anyone else.
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So we still text all day and I don't know, but how do I get back to being mysterious? You know what this reminds me of, by the way? This is a universal experience and everyone is safe here because I feel like if you don't experience this type of love bombing situation at some point in your life, you're not going to know how to handle it down the road. So bear with me, everything's gonna work out. But this is how I'm reading the situation. You know, like that meme that's like, I see this tick tock all the time where it's like a guy like the day before he ghosts you and it's like him being like, oh my God, I can't wait for you to meet my parents. I love you. Like, blah, blah, blah, oh my God, you are the apple of my eye. What are we gonna name our children? Like, that's what this is kind of reminding me of. This guy seems young. Wrong. That's what I'll say. I can just tell by this kind of behavior that this guy's EQ is probably extremely low. He probably wants to keep his options open. If even if that's something you don't want to hear, I'm gonna be honest with you and keep it real with you. He definitely likes you. This is clear to me. A guy doesn't act like that and put time in like that unless he gives a too. Men are very simple human beings. You kind of get what you give. But. But if a guy is saying that he's not ready for a serious commitment, hear him when he says that. Listen to that and take that at extremely, like, face value. I would say he wants to, like, keep his options open. I think that if you peeled back a little bit on the intimacy, you know, the cuddling, the forehead kisses, maybe you're not responding as quickly, you could get yourself back into a more of a green zone area where you're being a Bit more coy and mysterious. You don't want a guy to always be like, thinking he knows your next move, a guy thinking that he can read your mind, or a guy knowing exactly how you will react to anything he does or says. Like, throw a curveball at him. I would say be shorter with him. When you reply, don't be as lovey dovey. And also another thing I'm really bad at that I think works is being less available. I know when I like someone, I'm ready at their beck in hand. Like if I am an hour away and a guy was like, I really want to see you, and I'm like doing something an hour away, I will be like, I'm calling an Uber now. I'll be right there. And I feel like being super easily available to, like, to men in general. It. It sends a message. So if you're like, no, I'm busy. I think that ticks something in men's brain. It's something I'm trying to work on because I'm really bad at this too. So, like, we're in this together. But I would say that would be my best advice in the situation. But I also feel like communication's key too. But just to play devil's advocate here for a second, and on the flip side of things, I will say I was watching Love on the Spectrum the other day and they are so blunt. Oh my God. I was like, impressed. Like, they just tell it how it is. They'll be with a man on a date date. Or they'll be on a date and be like, I think we just should be friends. I want to go on another date, be my girlfriend. And yes, I know they are on the spectrum, but I respected the level of communication that they all had with each other. I thought it was admirable. And they just got to the point. Something that's wrong with men and just us. Not even just men. I think girls, like, we this up too. It's just like, there's a lack of like, boldness and communication and just like getting your point across because it just like takes up up the quicker you get a point across, even if it doesn't get received well on the other end, at least you know your answer and you get to the point, get to the finish line, you know, at least, you know, like, why drag something out that has no finish line in general? So I just like, kind of think that being blind and overly communicative also has its benefits as well. So that's on the flip side of things. I Would say, like, as I'm, like, approaching, you know, I'm closer to 30 now, I feel like for me, I'm with. I'm, like, trying to be a little bit more bold and communicative in my own, like, personal life. So, yeah, maybe, like, not me, like, learning things from love on the spectrum. But I was, like, kind of watching and being like, you know, I could take a page out of their book, like, because they, like, they get it sometimes they get it and they found love. So, like, maybe they're doing something right there. There's something to be told for that. Okay, moving on, guys. I've kind of outlined, now that we're talking about, like, liking someone, you know, like, all that jazz. I've kind of outlined, like, the tears of attraction in Tal. Telling a person like, you like them. Because it takes a lot for me to, like, be like, I like you. Like, it takes a lot. Actually, it depends how drunk I am. Those don't. Those moments don't count because sometimes I'm tipsy and I'm like, I'm in love with you. Like, I've said I've loved. I've loved guys drunk before, like, mid sex. But sometimes, like, either the molly hits or the moment strikes. Can't. Can't be blamed for those moments. But I. I said the tier one of telling someone you like them is like, I can tolerate you. Like, I'm not disgusted by you. Like, that's how I'd get my point across. Like. Like, I don't mind you being around me in my space. That's, like, the first way I would tell a guy that, like, I'm kind of into them. The second tier above that I would say is, I want to see you again. Like, initiating plans, not just, like, letting him leave my apartment. Being like, when do I see you again? Like, I want, like, I would like to make plans with you. I'm interested in doing that. That's, like, how I would translate like that, as I kind of like you. Right? I would agree. Not me answering my own questions here. The third tier would be, like, actually just point blank saying, I'm into you. Like, casual and cute. Being like, you know what? I'm into you. I think I'm into. I'm vibing with you. I feel like we're vibing here. I feel like that is also, like, kind of chill and, like, lax and, like, you know, like. Like, it's not super serious. It won't freak them out too much. And then, you know, tier four is when we're getting into, you know, the red zone, some dark waters. Because when I like a guy, I am the worst. I've said this before, I am the worst version of myself. I fold like a bad lawn chair. I lose all my inhibitions, lack self respect, you know, lack confidence in my decisions. My friends stay away from me during these periods of times and they try to like, sit me down for interventions. But luckily for me, I get over men really quickly too. But yeah, that would be tier four. Me, me just being like, down bad. Being like, I like you a lot. Like, where the are you, like, trying to FaceTime them? Like, that's like when, like we're in dark waters. So we try not to get to tier four. I rarely get to tier two. Honestly, Honestly, I don't remember the last time I told a guy I liked him. Actually, I do, but like, there's like, that was like a kindergarten crush. You know, like when you have like a, like a little like kindergarten crush on someone, you can't tell if it's just like situational or like the teal is just hitting you correctly. Like, it's like, oh, like I like you. But then like, you put him into the real world as a character and you see like how he interacts with like, his own environment or see how he is on social media. You get the real picture of him and you're like, oh, wait, I don't know now. But like, in certain environments, you're like, you're sexy and hot and I want to sit on your face. But like, I don't know, I read people too much. I think eventually the, the long term goal, guys, is we get to tier four. Like, I want to be emotionally available and emotionally ready for tier four. But I've said this before. Like, I, there's no part of me, I'd rather be single and alone than settle for trash and then have to like, deal with trash for years and tolerate red flags and tolerate what I don't deserve for years on end just for an inevitable breakup to happen. And then I'll look back and be like, I regret, like those years I could have been meeting someone that I actually deserve, which I think is the right outlook to have. And I'm not going to change my outlook just because, you know, I'm getting older, I still got time left, I still got youth on my side, you know, I'm not really worried about it, to be honest, either. I'm living my best life doing whatever the I'm doing. But anyways, you guys will be the first to know if I ever hit tier 4, when that happens, even, like, verbalizing that and, like, picturing me being in love and being all giddy over a man is a crazy thought to have. But, you know, the day will come, like, there's gonna be one day where, like, he's sitting right next to me. I'm gonna be giving him a hand job or podcasting. It'll, like, we're all gonna experience this together. It'll be a good time. But anyways, let's get into the next segment. As I was sitting here, my producer sent me are a quiz. Are you ready for a relationship? Now that we're on the topic of love and being in love, which, you know is hopefully in my future, but let's do this quiz together. I guess let's, like, wrap up the episode doing that. Are you ready for a relationship? Let's take the quiz and find out. Out. Question 1. Do your feelings for someone you'd like to be in a relationship with go deeper than physical attraction? Maybe it's yes. Maybe. I'm not sure. No, they have to be physically attractive. I'm sorry. They have to be at least an eight. You know, Right. Seven. I don't know. I have to be one. I have to want to them at the end of the day, I'm not their humor or how kind they are. That's not what I'm doing here. Okay, so, yes, maybe. I mean, obviously it goes deeper than a physical attraction, but, like, I'm trying to think about the guys that I'm into right now. Yes. I'm gonna. I'm gonna write maybe for that. Are you looking for a partner? I'm not sure. Are you willing to compromise and put the needs of someone else before yours at. At times? That sounds like a lot of work. No. Depends what needs they are. I'm not doing their laundry. No. Grow up. No, I'm not sure. Yes. What kind of needs? I'll give them head. Depends what needs we're talking about. I would. I would put. Yes. Yes. For that. I would put their needs in front of mine. Yes. Have you thought about growing older with someone? Yes, of course. Have you done some work on yourself to heal from previous relationships or traumas? No, I'm too busy for that. Do you take care of your physical and mental health? No, no. I actually just came from, like, getting blood work done today, and they're like, is your blood pressure always a slow. And I'm like, babe, I'm busy. Leave me be. No. Can you share thoughts and feelings Openly with someone close to you. You. Maybe. It depends on the guy, but usually I'm a hard wall to penetrate, which is ironic because I'm easy to penetrate sometimes too. Physically. Yeah, you got the joke. You got the joke. But no. Emotionally, I don't know. It depends if tequila is flowing or not. Then I'll open up a bit. But I would say maybe I don't. You don't want to show all your cards right off the bat. People take advantage of that. So I have to really get to know someone before I show true colors. People always say this about me, even platonic relationships. Like, I'm, like, kind of quiet in the beginning because I'm, like, reading you. I'm analyzing you in your being, your existence. I'm looking at every minute, small little move you make, how you speak, how you speak to other people, and I'm reading you. And then I'll decide how I want to act around you, whether that's an open book or a closed book. But I can be nice in both situations, so I'm going to say maybe. Can you have uncomfortable discussions and still be respectful of a partner? I'm trying to think about my past serious relationships. Something I always struggled with was staying calm when I'm pissed. Because when I'm pissed, I. I'm pissed. My head's blowing off. I have a very short fuse. They will root this day and they will root the next day and the day after that. And I kind of used to love picking fights with my partner to have good makeup sex. It was a problem, but I think I could grow to have uncomfortable discussions and maybe disagreements with the partner and still be respectful, because sometimes you gotta agree to disagree. So I'm gonna say yes. I could do that, maybe. Are you looking for a deeper connection than casual dating? The thing is, like. Like I don't look for meaningful things with men. I hope that it finds me with little effort. Like the stars are aligned and we're at the same place and it's meant to be. I'm not actively on the prowl looking for meaningful connection. I would like to get laid, but that's not meaningful connection. I feel like people that are out there looking for meaningful connection. I mean, you do you babe, but that's not really me. So I would say, no, I'm not. But if meaningful connection finds me, I will embrace it with open arms and fake tits. Do you know what you need from a relationship and can you communicate your needs? Yes, I can communicate my needs. That's actually one thing I Am good about doing all right. Do you enjoy being around your romantic interests for long periods of time? Yeah, Especially in the honeymoon phase. Like, who wants to, like, be separated? That's actually a problem I had with, like, my friendships because, like. Like, they kind of lose me in the beginning because I'm having, like, all these sexual rendezvous with, like, this guy, and I'm like, I get. I go kind of ghost in Mia. I need to work about that, work out that balance a little bit better. I think I could handle it now that I'm older. But, like, when I was in college, I was so bad about that. But, yeah, I could say, yeah, I'm gonna say yes to this. All right. 12. When you see a happy couple, does it remind you of something you want or missing? Not really. I mean, I'm around happy couples all the time, but I'm not like, like, no, like, this could be me. Like, I don't pity myself like that. It'll happen for me when it's meant to happen for me. Maybe just like this time in my life, it's just not. I'm optimistic, you know? Like, I don't. I guess I don't really look at a happy couple and say, damn, I wish that was me. Should I be like. Maybe. I would say I'm not sure to that the results where you're not quite ready to take the leap. I could have said that myself. Whether you're still getting over an ex or of some things that you need to work on, now may not be the best time for you to jump into a relationship. Take the time you need to make sure you're able to give your best self to your future partner. Partner. Okay, well, you. If you're still not sure about your relationship. Okay, so it turns out I'm not ready. But, like, I could have told you guys that. You guys could have told me that. Production could have told me that. My mom and dad tell me that all the time. Yeah, we gotta get our ducks in a line before we take a serious leap with anyone. Because in a relationship, you should not be complimenting the other person. They should be a cherry on top of something that, like. Of a solid foundation, you know, you don't ever want a man, like, feeling like you need a man to complete you as a whole. Because that is where you run into trouble. Because God forbid, like, that man leaves you. You don't want to feel like there's a hole there, you know? Does that make any sense? I feel like it made sense to me, but, yeah, until I feel like a complete person in many aspects of my life. I feel like I don't think I'm ready for a serious relationship. But that could change. Who knows? That's how I feel today. Yada yada bing bong boop.
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Think about the trauma I held on to after that being like, where's your sister, babe? No, hi, I'm a girl. I just have this haircut and chubby cheeks. I wanted this haircut so bad because I looked up to my mom. I still look up to my mother. Love her to death. And I wanted to, like, have the same haircut as her. She has this really cute chic pixie haircut. And I was like, I want that haircut too. And she thought it would be cute as well. So we're all the same page. And I was like, you know what? I'm gonna take the leap. Did not think that it would make me look like a little boy. Okay? Like so cute though. Like, looking back, for the audio only listeners, I'm wearing a V neck. I have no eyebrows. That's something I started doing later in life is dyeing my eyebrows because it adds a lot of facial structure for me. And I had like a bowl, like, I had like the Justin Bieber flow. Basically, like a bowl haircut, Dark brunette hair and just like the chubby cheeks and like, I have the most innocent twinkle in my eyes. This is before I'd seen any dick. And then I ruined it for me. The twinkle left my eye. Okay, let's go over this photo. Like, look how long my hair was. Guys, this is like a summer in Nantucket. Like, this is when I was in my VSCO era, Tumblr era. I like admired Alexis Run. I think this was like the Alexis Run era. Looked up to her. And who was the other girl? Like Savannah Montoya. I just like wanted like their lives and like their beachy esque, like, kind of vibe. I'm wearing Daisy Dukes here. Honestly, I haven't seen my hair this long ever. This is kind of insane for me to see that at this length because as you guys know, I'm bald. I look like Walton Goggins with this hairline at this point. I get that comment all the time on Tick Tock. And honestly, I'm starting to see it. It. I'm starting to see it. It's scaring me a little bit. But yeah, this is just like a typical Nantucket summer, sun kissed and gorgeous, you know? Like, this is a great picture. This is me and my friend Katie. I like a dirty in college. It is so interesting to me to see how girls dress in college now versus when I was in college. Even though it's like only seven years ago, five years ago that I was in college. Like, thank God, like, people figured it out because when I was in college, the LF era was super prominent. Like this. We're talking 2016. We had the chokers, we had like the cross V neck thing situation going on. We had, you know, the LF skirts. The way overpriced LF items that people would like, push over for, like the LF sales were in insane. They were an iconic period of time that needs to be studied. Like, this skirt I'm looking at is the ugliest thing I've ever seen in my whole entire life. And it has a zipper up the middle. I bet you the skirt was like $235. And I thought I was sick with like the little cropped mesh racing. Like, I don't even know, like, the cheap sunglasses. This is before I had eyebrows in Massachir Botox. And I honestly look insane. And my hair was orange because I it up through, like, a bleach and tone situation. And I had press on nails here as well that I got from cvs. Ooh, this is actually cute. I got my hair and makeup done. I went with my cousin Jill to Rihanna's Mela afterparty back at 1Oak in 2017. I looked chic here, and there were so many celebrities there that night, and I felt like a sick human being. I was like, whoa, whoa, whoa. Like, Bella Deed was there, Haley Bieber was there. Everyone and their mother was there. And obviously Rihanna came. This is honestly the only probably good outfit I have from the year 2017. I. I swear I change style every year. Let's go back farther. Let's go back to high school. God, I had the best hair with my high school boyfriend. Oh, my God. Here's a picture of me on the floor of my friend's common room area, hammered after our night out our. Our freshman year. This is, like, week one, freshman year here. And I was going through a breakup because my ex cheated on me, so I didn't want to be alone. So I would just sleep in the common area or, like, in my. One of my good friends, like, bed for, like, a month. I just, like, wouldn't leave by their side because anytime I was alone, I was, like, sad and depressed. So I, like, need to be with my girls. So I would sleep on the beanbag in their common room. Okay. And we would. This is, like freshman week, you know, syllabus week, whatever you want to call it. It. And I was drinking, like, raspberry bubblegum spetka straight from the bottle. Shots, shot shots. And then I would get so sick, and then I would take their little, like, you know, trash can, like, you know, like the little dorm trash cans you get at Target, and I would just wrap around it. And I think this time I. This night, I had indulged too much in some, you know, raspberry s, and I just got absolutely twisted. This is back when I used to experience SP spins, which is something I don't experience now ever. Do you guys remember spins? Like, I used to get spit. Like, you know the spins when you lie down, like, everything's spinning. I feel like that's something you experience when you first started drinking when you're younger. But now I don't know if it's. If I'm drinking less. That can't be the case or if I'm just like, over the spins era of my life. But yeah, here I'm wrapped in my comforter. I look like I'm in good spirits. There's still color in my face, but, you know, I look like I'm about to have, like, a very tough morning. God, I was so cute. But these outfits are diabolical. Like, I was cool in high school. Now that I'm like, reflecting back on all these pictures, like, I party just as hard. This is a crazy photo. Look how young I look. So this is when I was 15. This was like my semi formal and I went. It was the first time I was going with, you know, my high school boyfriend. And I was so excited. My makeup is really sketchy in this. And also, like, I had such a baby face. But this should, like, clear up all the allegations. My jawline was always T. Okay. And everyone thinks I have filler in my jaw. And I'm like, no. It's literally just the structure of my face. Not to be super pick me, but, like, it is. Everyone thinks I have jaw filler. And my nose is cute here too. I look so wholesome. I was so, so wholesome up until the age of maybe 17. But yeah, we were just like pre gaming, taking semi formal pictures here, you know, doing the whole, like, you know, the sorority squat grind line pictures with all your besties. Like, there was like, the best times in high school. I, like, miss high school. I had a great grade at NCDs. Actually, speaking of NCDs, my 10 year reunion is this year, which is crazy to say that I'm 10 years out of high school. Like, what? Where has the time gone? It feels like yesterday I was just parking in that senior parking lot. But that'll be fun. I'm looking forward to that. God, I was like, so cuntiana. Wait, this is funny. This is a picture of me and my friend Sally in eighth grade. We used to go to this place called Lexi Place. I don't know if anyone knows in the Boston area what legacy places, but literally it's where you'd go in the seventh, or I think sixth, seventh, eighth grade to, like, meet boys. You, like, meet up with boys. And you'd walk around, you go into the Mac store and take pictures on the MacBook. And then you'd upload them as your profile picture on Facebook. And then you'd be like, like my status for truth is or like, like my status for a rate. Remember when that used to be a thing? Like when men like boys, which is Crazy to think about now they'd be like, like, my status for a rate. And they'd like, write on your page and be like eight. Like, I would see some boys be like, so honest about it too. Be like, like, you're three and a half. Not to me, but, like, to girls I knew in my class, I was like, what? Like, what happened to, like, white lying? Because we need to bring that back. But that was like, basically my whole social calendar in middle school was going to, like, the Holy Name dances, DCD dances, Brimmer and May. Like, all these, like, school dances. I would count how many guys I grinded with. Like, we'd have competitions. Oh, h. Back in the day, guys. This is 2011 I'm speaking about, by the way. And yeah, I had my first. First makeout was probably at one of these. Actually, my second makeout ever was at one of these dances. But I remember, like, going to legacy places like where you met cute boys when I was in middle school. But my outfit here is horrendous. I'm a brunette. I used to go out with no makeup on at all. I went fucking Havana. Flip flop tops in shorts that are a questionable length in a Juicy Couture tracksuit zipped up to the top with a sugar lips underneath. This is so 2011, core to the T. I bet I had a sleeve of silly bands underneath this Juicy Couture tracksuit as well. Like, that's hilarious. That was a good one to end it on, guys. Oh, reflecting the nostalgia. It's all coming back to me. This has been another beautifully fun solo episode with you little freaks. Again, like, subscribe, you can watch on YouTube, listen to me on every other platform. I'll be yapping everywhere. But for now, I love you guys and I'll see you next week. Bye.
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Episode Title: Seeking Arrangements, love bombs, & Mr. Mustache Man
Release Date: May 8, 2025
Host: Hallie Batchelder
In this electrifying episode of "Extra Dirty with Hallie Batchelder," Hallie delves deep into her tumultuous summer days in college, exploring themes of fleeting romances, the allure of celebrity, and the complexities of modern dating platforms like Seeking Arrangements. With her signature blend of humor and raw honesty, Hallie shares personal anecdotes that resonate with anyone navigating the chaotic waters of relationships and self-discovery.
Hallie kicks off the episode by reminiscing about a particularly wild summer in Nantucket during her freshman year. She recounts meeting an older actor, affectionately dubbed "Mr. Mustache Man," who would play a pivotal role in her summer escapades.
Hallie (04:15): "He was a bold man, and honestly, his straight-up approach was hilarious. We thought it would just end there, but it was just the beginning of the chaos."
Hallie describes how Mr. Mustache Man approached her roommate on the beach, leading to a whirlwind romance filled with parties, exclusive events, and unexpected encounters. Their connection quickly spiraled from casual hookups to more intense interactions, including a stint in New York City where they were involved in Riff Raff's music video for "Only in America."
Hallie (10:45): "Riff Raff's music video was one of the funniest things I've ever done. We had wigs in American flag colors, rented a Jeep, and even used the Chicken Box—a popular Nantucket bar—as our backdrop."
Despite the glamorous facade, Hallie expresses skepticism about Mr. Mustache Man's intentions, especially when he orchestrated a visit to her college campus under the guise of filming a movie—a project that never materialized. This raised red flags about his true motives, blending the line between professional interest and personal intrigue.
Hallie (16:30): "Why would he choose to film on a specific college campus? It all seemed so suspect, like he just wanted an excuse to be there."
Shifting gears, Hallie opens up about her brief foray into the world of Seeking Arrangements—a platform facilitating relationships between "sugar daddies" and younger partners. Her experience is marked by caution and introspection.
Hallie (20:10): "I signed up because I got kicked out of the house after a party went wrong. It felt like a desperate move at the time."
While she acknowledges the potential benefits—such as financial support and lavish experiences—Hallie remains wary of the platform's risks. She highlights the prevalence of superficial motives, noting that many men on Seeking Arrangements seek not just companionship but "sexual favors."
Hallie (25:50): "Most of these men are weird freaks, and it's not a safe option. They all say no sexual favors, but deep down, they want a little rub and tug underneath the table."
Hallie's narrative serves as a cautionary tale, urging listeners to approach such platforms with skepticism and prioritize personal safety over perceived advantages.
Delving deeper into relationship intricacies, Hallie addresses love bombing—a manipulative tactic where overwhelming affection is used to gain control over another person. She dissects a listener's DM about a relationship exhibiting these traits.
Hallie (35:20): "If a guy behaves this way, his emotional intelligence is probably extremely low. He wants to keep his options open."
Hallie offers pragmatic advice on maintaining personal boundaries to prevent being swept into unhealthy dynamics. She emphasizes the importance of mysteriousness and less availability to counteract overbearing affection.
Hallie (38:45): "Be shorter with him when you reply, don't be as lovey-dovey, and make yourself less available. It sends a message that you're not entirely at his beck and call."
Conversely, she also acknowledges the value of blunt communication, drawing inspiration from the show "Love on the Spectrum," where directness in relationships fosters clarity and understanding.
Hallie (42:10): "The level of communication they have is admirable. They just tell it how it is, which is something we can all learn from."
Hallie doesn't shy away from self-examination, reflecting on her past behaviors and their impact on her present self. She candidly discusses her struggles with being emotionally available and the challenges of maintaining healthy relationships.
Hallie (50:30): "When I like a guy, I become the worst version of myself. I lose all my inhibitions and lack self-respect."
Despite these vulnerabilities, Hallie remains optimistic about personal growth. She outlines a tiered approach to expressing interest in someone, highlighting the importance of self-awareness and emotional readiness.
Hallie (55:00): "Tier one is like saying, 'I can tolerate you,' and tier four is when you're deeply in love. I aim to avoid getting stuck in the red zone by fostering self-respect and emotional balance."
In a lighter segment, Hallie shares a heartfelt look back at her old photos, tracing her transformation from a shy fifth-grader to a vivacious influencer. This nostalgic journey underscores her continuous evolution and the lessons learned along the way.
Hallie (48:20): "Looking at my old pictures is like a social experiment. My style changes every year, but the core of who I am remains the same."
She humorously recounts awkward fashion choices and the innocence of her younger years, juxtaposing them with her current self-assured persona. This segment serves as a reminder of the importance of embracing one's history while striving for personal growth.
As the episode wraps up, Hallie reiterates the central themes of navigating complex relationships and the importance of self-awareness. She encourages listeners to embrace their quirks and learn from their experiences, no matter how chaotic.
Hallie (58:00): "This has been another beautifully fun solo episode with you little freaks. Stay tuned, subscribe, and I'll see you next week."
Hallie Batchelder's "Extra Dirty" episode offers a raw and unfiltered look into the complexities of young adulthood, relationships, and personal growth. Through her engaging storytelling and relatable anecdotes, Hallie not only entertains but also provides valuable insights into navigating the modern dating landscape. Whether reminiscing about her wild college summers or dissecting the pitfalls of platforms like Seeking Arrangements, Hallie ensures that listeners are both entertained and enlightened.