Single Sammy Summer: TikTok fame & adjusting to post-grad life

Summary

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Extra Dirty with Hallie Batchelder

Episode: Single Sammy Summer: TikTok fame & adjusting to post-grad life
Date: August 28, 2025
Host: Hallie Batchelder
Guest: Sammy (Hallie’s brother)

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Overview

This playful and unfiltered episode dives into Hallie and her younger brother Sammy's relationship, as they reminisce over wild family stories, discuss the realities of post-grad life, TikTok fame, dating in your twenties, and the hilarious chaos that comes with moving back in with parents. Expect sibling roast sessions, candid confessions, and light-hearted takes on everything from relationship “red flags” to Gen Z post-breakup tactics, all set to Hallie’s signature “nothing is off-limits” tone.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

Sibling Dynamics, Family Stories & Childhood Drama

• Sibling Comebacks:
  Hallie and Sammy immediately jump into the classic “who’s most likely” roasting, establishing the loose, banter-heavy mood. Hallie introduces Sammy as a fan favorite from previous episodes and jokes about the chaos of having all their siblings under one roof ([00:54], [01:52]).

• DM Chaos:
  The duo riffs about the wildness of girls’ DMs vs. guys’ DMs, with Hallie declaring:

  “I just think girls are a lot more bold and, like, sillier and just like, get creative with the comments.” ([03:01] Hallie)

• Wild Family Gatherings:
  The two recount infamous family holidays, from “throwing down” at Thanksgiving to bullying “Auntie Jen’s boyfriend” for his oyster + wine snobbery, and the classic childhood snitching:

  “If Chad and I have an opportunity to take advantage of someone, like a guest like that, we will… it’ll be the best running joke of the night.” ([09:59] Sammy)
  “There was at least like seven people who cried that night.” ([10:25] Hallie)
  Hallie boasts: “We were throwing bangers… people are hanging out onto the streets of Boston.” ([11:55] Hallie)

• Physical Sibling Battles:
  They laugh about their knock-down, drag-out fights as kids—including a remote-to-the-head moment before graduation:

  “You and I got into the...fight the night before graduation at Dexter. You hit me so hard in the head with the remote.” ([28:11] Sammy)

Post-Grad Limbo & Adulting Realities

• Post-Grad Identity Shift:
  Sammy candidly talks about the transition from college athlete to unemployed adult:

  “I have so much time now that school and football's over… I don't really know what's going on. I'm adjusting to that and that kind of feeling.” ([03:17], [04:07] Sammy)

• Living with Parents—Again:
  They debate the pros (free laundry and meals) and cons (lack of autonomy):

  “You just feel like you’re going with someone else’s program when you’re there.” ([06:12] Hallie)

• Choosing What’s Next:
  Sammy admits he’s open on his next step—maybe modeling in NY, but likely somewhere on the east coast:

  “I’m just looking for any sort of opportunity anywhere… I'd like to get out of Boston.” ([07:08] Sammy)
  “I personally think Boston is the greatest city in America… I figured, if I’m ever gonna switch it up, when will that be?” ([07:58], [08:35] Sammy)

• Navigating Comparison:
  Hallie closes with tough-love encouragement:

  “Comparison is the thief of joy... if you’re comparing yourself to what your friends are doing, you’re never going to be happy with yourself.” ([49:41] Hallie)

TikTok Fame, Influencer Life & Bar-Back Tales

• TikTok Blow-Up:
  Both discuss being recognized in the real world, with varied reactions to being recorded by strangers:

  “One kid came in and said he’d seen my videos and I got him to start working out—that was the highlight of my summer.” ([24:06] Sammy)
  “I get a little uncomfortable with [being recorded]... my job is to literally see everything, so—the camera’s like, right in.” ([24:55], [25:08] Sammy)

• Hallie’s Advice:
  “Just say hi. Don’t be sneaky.” ([23:40] Hallie)

Dating, Ghosting & Modern Relationships

• Red Flags & “Fan Girls”:
  Sammy admits he’s hyper-aware of girls who are fans of Hallie or her influencer friends:

  “Red flag if they follow you. Double red flag if it’s Alex, too. Triple red flag if it’s Lauren.” ([18:04] Sammy)

• Who Falls Harder?
  The siblings debate who’s more likely to fall in love quickly (Hallie says herself, Sammy quietly disagrees):

  “I can never let a man know how I feel until... I don’t know.” ([36:01] Hallie)

• Ghosting Philosophy:
  Hallie: “I ghost everyone if I don’t give a sh*t about them.” ([37:18])
  Sammy: “I’d rather someone just say straight up to my face, ‘I want nothing to do with you,’ than ghost me.” ([38:04])

Popular Internet Trends: 75 Hard

• Reluctance to Join:
  They mock the extremity and virtue-signaling of 75 Hard:

  “Are you really doing 75 Hard if you’re not posting about it?” ([21:16] Sammy)
  “I would do like, 30 soft.” ([20:37] Hallie)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• Sibling Loyalty:

  Hallie: “Would you lie under oath for me?”
  Sammy: “I think I would do it for you. I would do life in prison for you. I’m not even joking.” ([35:12]–[35:26])

• Post Grad Angst:

  Sammy: “Now I’m kind of trying to channel all that energy into something else… it’s all about perspective and appreciating what you do have rather than what you don’t have.” ([50:09] Sammy)

• Gen Z Relationship Status:

  Hallie: “I keep hooking up with these bisexuals… there’s a lot of bi men. Is that like a Gen Z thing?” ([36:48] Hallie)

• Sibling Rivalry:

  Hallie: “Remember when mom almost sent you to rehab for Fortnite?”
  Sammy: “She, like, printed out addiction papers, she was ready to… send me.” ([29:23]–[29:41])

• Empathy & Growth:

  Sammy: “Having sisters has taught me how to treat women. The last thing I’d ever want to see is you guys hurt… I take from those lessons…and that’s what I don’t want to do to someone else.” ([48:24] Sammy)

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• Re-joining the Family at Home, Post-grad Adjustment: [03:17]–[07:56]
• Sibling Holiday Drama: [09:20]–[10:46]
• Social Media, TikTok Fame, & Barbacking Stories: [23:16]–[25:12]
• Dating Philosophy, Ghosting & Gen Z Love Lives: [17:49]–[19:26], [36:19]–[38:32]
• "Who’s More Likely" Sibling Game: [26:23]–[41:04]
• Listener Q&A (Cheating, memories, favorite Boston spots): [42:08]–[48:24]
• Post-grad Advice & Outlook: [49:10]–[51:11]
• Heartfelt Sibling Farewell: [51:14]–[51:51]

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Listener Q&A Highlights

• If a guy cheats, will he do it again?

  • Sammy: “100%. Based on what I’ve seen… the guys I know that have cheated have ended up doing it again.” ([42:34])

• Favorite childhood memories:

  • Both reminisce—Nantucket summers, ding-dong ditch, watching “Friends,” surfing and sports camp, not caring about social media ([43:22]–[44:00]).

• Best trip/family chaos:

  • Sammy’s near-miss with the glass door and a “DIY” stitch job by their mom ([44:53]–[46:43]).

• Best Boston spot for drinks/night out:

  • Grill 23 for dinner, Loco Lounge for nightlife ([47:04]–[47:38]).

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Episode Vibe & Final Thoughts

The episode captures Hallie and Sammy’s natural chemistry—a blend of unfiltered honesty, self-deprecating humor, and genuine family loyalty. It explores the messy transition to adulthood while poking fun at TikTok fame, influencer culture, and youthful mistakes. Underneath the banter are moments of real advice: be patient with yourself, don’t compare your path to others, and revel in the chaos of figuring it out.

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For anyone who’s ever survived a dramatic family dinner, questioned their next steps post-grad, or been tempted to ghost a date—this episode delivers laughs, relatability, and a lot of much-needed sibling energy.

Transcript

[Sammy]

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[Hallie]

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[Hallie]

Who's most likely to be in a relationship next?

[Sammy]

I have no idea. Maybe me.

[Hallie]

I'll probably get married.

[Sammy]

I think you'll get married before me.

[Hallie]

Yeah, but like, I'm just off on men right now. I keep hooking up with these bisexuals.

[Sammy]

Okay, so maybe me.

[Hallie]

Yeah, I'm doing something really stupid right now. We have an emergency debrief situation. Hi, this is Hallie from the streets of New York. Guys, I had every intention of staying in last night. Welcome back to Extra Dirty. We have a very special guest today. He's been on before. He's one of my siblings. Sammy, welcome back.

[Sammy]

Thank you.

[Hallie]

Are you happy to be here?

[Sammy]

I'm excited to be here. I feel like it's been a long time.

[Hallie]

I feel like I want a sibling, like I gotta bring on now because I know, like a bit on like a sibling. Just everyone's coming on. Did you watch the chat episode?

[Sammy]

I watched the chat episode. It was hilarious.

[Hallie]

Yeah, what'd you think?

[Sammy]

I thought he told some good stories and he, he was like kind of.

[Hallie]

Nervous to come on.

[Sammy]

I know, but he's like, he hasn't done it yet?

[Hallie]

No, he hasn't done it yet.

[Sammy]

I've done it a couple times.

[Hallie]

Do you know that the episode that you're in is one of my most popular episodes on YouTube. The Love Sammy. As it should be all my DMS. Which by the way, you guys like write into me all the time being like saying the most crazy about my brother. And I'm like, oh my God, are your DMs nuts right now?

[Sammy]

Yeah, sometimes.

[Hallie]

Sometimes.

[Sammy]

Depends.

[Hallie]

Like I was just saying this to someone today. I was like, I feel like guys dms from girls are a lot crazier than girls DMS from guys because someone asked me today was like, how Many men are in your dms and I was like, you would think more, but, like, really not that many.

[Sammy]

You saying guys say crazier?

[Hallie]

No, I think girls say crazier.

[Sammy]

I would agree.

[Hallie]

Like, I read your comments. Your comments are like raw eye contact, very passionate.

[Sammy]

I could post a picture of the sky and it'll be like some sort of outrageous comment about it, but they're kind of funny.

[Hallie]

Guys can't do that on girls posts or don't do that.

[Sammy]

No, it's not as common. Definitely not as common. Chad had some funny ones in his comments too.

[Hallie]

Yeah.

[Sammy]

Yeah, his are hilarious.

[Hallie]

I just think girls are just like, a lot more bold and, like, sillier and just like, get creative with the comments or in the comment section.

[Sammy]

I would agree.

[Hallie]

So, Sam, you've been posting a little bit more on social media, I feel like, since the last time you sat down with me. What are your thoughts? What are your feels? Do you like it? What's going on?

[Sammy]

Yeah, I'm having fun with it, for sure. I mean, I don't know, I'm kind of at a weird point in my life where, like, I have so much, like, time now that school and football's over that I can just kind of, like, post what I've been doing throughout the day. And I don't know, it's been fun, know, trying to do different things with it and show different things in my life.

[Hallie]

Yeah.

[Sammy]

It's been good, though.

[Hallie]

It is funny enjoying it because I feel like you played football in college, which you probably had so much structure to your day, Right? So much structure.

[Sammy]

And now it's just a different kind of structure.

[Hallie]

And now you're just like. You're like. I feel like I see you yearning for structure. So you try to give yourself things to do or tasks, whether that side quest or not. You're just trying to fill up your time in the day.

[Sammy]

Yeah. And I think this is the first time in. I mean, I forget how long where I haven't had, like, a season to look forward to.

[Hallie]

Yeah.

[Sammy]

So I'm kind of like, I don't really know what's going on. I'm like, adjusting to that and that kind of feeling and trying to, like, fill my days with like.

[Hallie]

Are you having, like, an identity crisis?

[Sammy]

I wouldn't say that. I wouldn't say, like, football was ever my identity, but it was definitely something that was a part of my life and my lifestyle. I mean, I was playing it forever and I was going to practice and doing meetings and I was having this conversation with one of my friends the other day who I played with in, like, I don't know. Today's August. Whatever. But August, like, to us means, like, oh, my gosh, like, camp's coming up. Like, we're almost like, X amount of days out. Like, it's like, ingrained in our memory. It's like muscle memory almost. So it's like. I don't know, it's just weird that it's. It's not part of my life right now. And I wouldn't say it's an identity crisis. You know, I'm very, you know, excited for what's next. Whatever that is.

[Hallie]

Yeah.

[Sammy]

Know. I know whatever's next is. Is going to be fun, but what's it like? Definitely.

[Hallie]

Living under mom and dad's roof again, that has to be probably one of the toughest parts.

[Sammy]

Yeah, we. It has its ups and downs, has.

[Hallie]

Its pros and cons.

[Sammy]

It has its pros and cons. I mean, listen, I don't have to. Yeah, exactly. Laundry. And I don't have to worry about a meal at. At night, but, you know, gets a little tense. Tense at times.

[Hallie]

Yeah.

[Sammy]

You know, it's tough. It's time. I, like, I think we both know that I love being around them, but I think we both know it's like.

[Hallie]

I think they, like, love people in the house, but then they, like, hate it at the same time. I, like, can't even remember a time when she had four of us under the same roof. Like, how did she do it then?

[Sammy]

I can't remember that. I was probably in, like, seventh grade.

[Hallie]

Yeah. Not even, like, I mean, I just now. Which is so weird. I feel like I'm in someone else's home now.

[Sammy]

I know.

[Hallie]

You know what I mean?

[Sammy]

And I'm the last one, so it's like, it puts. It probably puts them in a weird position because that's a feeling that they're not used to. It's everyone out of the house full time.

[Hallie]

Yeah.

[Sammy]

You know, like, I was always going to come back in the summer, but once I move out, like, I'm.

[Hallie]

I'm gone.

[Sammy]

Like, I'm. It's just. It's just them, you know, they're extremely routine as well. They're very routine.

[Hallie]

So are you. But, like.

[Sammy]

Yeah.

[Hallie]

You just feel like you're going with someone else's program when you're there, you know, like.

[Sammy]

Right.

[Hallie]

They are so repetitive in the places they go, the things.

[Sammy]

Yeah. And, like, I feel like when you live on your own, you have more decisions that you make. On your own and more freedom and I mean, I can play music if I were to live on my own, like, whenever I want.

[Hallie]

Yeah, it's like the subtle.

[Sammy]

Yeah, like I can put the channel on that I want. You know, they do like 7 news every day, which isn't my thing, but yeah, you know, it is what it is. We're getting there. Baby steps, Baby steps, baby steps.

[Hallie]

Do you know if you want to stay close to home or if you want to live further away or, like, what's the deal? I mean, wherever the highest paying job takes you. Kind of vibes.

[Sammy]

Wherever. Not necessarily the highest paying, just whatever the. The job that sets me up on the proper career path that feels right, you know? Could it be the highest paying job? Maybe. But honestly, I'm just looking for any sort of opportunity anywhere, you know, I'd like to get out of Boston.

[Hallie]

Which leaves. Leaves you. Why you're in New York right now. You're here for a modeling opportunity.

[Sammy]

Exactly. Here for a little modeling opportunity. Be cool, you know, trying new things out.

[Hallie]

You. I was a model signed here at one point.

[Sammy]

I know. Yeah, that's how you started. I don't know really what to expect. I'm again, I'm just looking to have fun with it. It's another opportunity for me to explore something different.

[Hallie]

Yeah.

[Sammy]

You know, challenge yourself. I don't know, I. If I were to guess, I'd probably stay on the east coast, you know, like New York City and South Florida, like Miami, West Palm. That, like, those have been the three that I've kind of bounced around the most.

[Hallie]

But you don't want to go too far.

[Sammy]

Nah. I mean, la. Like, I. I've thought about it. I don't know. Like, I just. I don't know. I love Boston and I plan on coming back to Boston no matter where I go.

[Hallie]

Same. I always say I'm gonna go back.

[Sammy]

Like, I. I personally think Boston is the greatest city in America. Yeah, I think it's just like a much more balanced New York. It's much more dummy down. There's much more community, you know, cleaner.

[Hallie]

There's a lot of pros. It's just like a little more boring. Which is why I would come back later in life when I want to, like, raise a family. They've got education systems.

[Sammy]

Exactly. Best hospitals, best education, best sports. I'm a huge sports fan. Like, I don't know, I just figured I've done Boston for 23 years and I did New York for college. Like, being in upstate, obviously is way different than than here. But I don't know. I figured if I'm ever gonna switch it up, like, when will that be? I know there's more.

[Hallie]

I mean, that's what your 20s are about. Boring. Trial and error. Just figuring it out.

[Sammy]

All right.

[Hallie]

Did you watch any of the episode with Chad? Like, what were your thoughts?

[Sammy]

I did. I thought it was hilarious. I thought he told some really good.

[Hallie]

Stories, which were your favorite.

[Sammy]

The Sonapee story was hilarious. See, I don't even know how he pulled that. Like, that was a crazy. Like, I was, like, talking about it with mom was like, how do you even remember that? Like, I don't.

[Hallie]

I remember so clear as day. What is one of the stories that you remember from childhood? That it's like, oh, this is a great story. Whether it's between me and you, or me and Chad. Or you and Chad, Brynn. Whether that's a Nantucket story or, like, a holiday story. Yeah, we've had, like, some really dramatic.

[Sammy]

Yeah, well, you told a couple. Chad talked to. He hinted on a little bit of some of those holiday stories with Thanksgiving, and we used to throw down. We used to throw down.

[Hallie]

One holiday, there was Thanksgiving at our house. Everyone was getting up.

[Sammy]

Well, you were telling the story about Auntie Jen's boyfriend.

[Hallie]

Oh, yeah.

[Sammy]

He wasn't. He wasn't a big fan of me.

[Hallie]

He wasn't a big fan of anyone like, she was. He was a crook.

[Sammy]

Yeah, that was so.

[Hallie]

Remember when he brought oysters and dad brought out red wine? And he goes. He goes to my dad in his own home, goes, those don't pair with the oysters. No. This is, like, blasphemy.

[Sammy]

I was like, who is this guy? I must have been, like, 16 or 17, and I was just, like, messing with that guy. Like, if Chad and I have an opportunity to, like, take advantage of someone like a guest like that, we will, like, we'll jump on it and it'll be the best running joke of the night. Like, no.

[Hallie]

You guys were, like, bullying him.

[Sammy]

I know, but, like, Will's chiming in. He's like 12 years old. Like, our cousin Will.

[Hallie]

Yeah. And I remember there was at least, like, seven people that cried that night.

[Sammy]

Right.

[Hallie]

And then I remember.

[Sammy]

Classic, though.

[Hallie]

That's classic. It's honestly so understanding. We need cameras up. We have holidays.

[Sammy]

We. Yeah. There's always some sort of either tears or some sort of argument or conflict. Whether it's, like, with the fam. Like the cousins. You know what I mean?

[Hallie]

I know. I try to stay out of it.

[Sammy]

I know but, like, can't just eat the turkey and call it a day.

[Hallie]

You know, there's always something.

[Sammy]

There's always something.

[Hallie]

I was telling Chad or. I don't know if you watched the whole episode, but me and Chad were talking about how, like, me and him were, like, the bad ones growing up. Like, we're like the middle child. Like, we like to party. Like, Brent didn't really like to party. You were too young, and you were like, blah, blah, blah. And I used to have these, like, post games after. Semi. After prom or just, like, when mom and dad were out of town.

[Sammy]

Yeah.

[Hallie]

And you would, like, send pictures of the beer pong table.

[Sammy]

I mean, I was, like, 11 and wanted to, like, play Xbox. I guess I was just like a kid. I don't know. Yeah, I did do that. I was like a little snitch.

[Hallie]

There was that one time where you pulled out a bat. Remember? Because there was people in your bed. Do you remember that?

[Sammy]

Which prom was that?

[Hallie]

I think it might have been one of Brinsboy.

[Sammy]

I'm not doubting. I did. Like, there. There's a very good chance I did do that.

[Hallie]

You were pissed.

[Sammy]

I used to get mad. I. Well, because when I was, like, growing up. I don't know.

[Hallie]

You just want to play Fortnite.

[Sammy]

I just, like, wanted to, like. No. Like, I don't even think Fortnite was out at the time. Like, I was young.

[Hallie]

You're so young.

[Sammy]

And we were, like, sixth grade.

[Hallie]

We were throwing bangers.

[Sammy]

Throwing bangers. Like, I'm talking, like, onto the streets of Boston. People are hanging out, like. Yeah, you guys are, like, 17 at the time. But in my eyes, like, you're, like. I mean, you're significantly older. I'm, like, looking up to you guys, like.

[Hallie]

Yeah, we're, like, blacked out, like, in the streets of Boston.

[Sammy]

I know.

[Hallie]

Remember when you're off about something.

[Sammy]

Yeah. And like, Belmont Hill kids, it was, like, this massive, like, writing.

[Hallie]

Yeah. They were, like, brawling in the streets. I remember that.

[Sammy]

Like, run out there and, like, die. Laugh. Like, this is awesome.

[Hallie]

Yeah. But do you remember that one time? I think it was when I was in college and we made you take a shot.

[Sammy]

Yeah, I actually do remember. It was the peppermint shot. Do you remember that?

[Hallie]

Yeah.

[Sammy]

With, like, the child. I was so mad. I think it was. I think you were in college at that point.

[Hallie]

I was in college because I was.

[Sammy]

It was. It was Margot who gave me the shot, I think.

[Hallie]

Yeah. Sammy, try this. Peppermint shots. By the way, they're really good.

[Sammy]

They're bomb. Yeah.

[Hallie]

We had given you straight like Tito's.

[Sammy]

I mean I was like 14, but like they were like they're now they're good.

[Hallie]

When you were that young?

[Sammy]

I don't think 14. I mean you were in college actually. Yeah. Because you were 18 as a freshman.

[Hallie]

I got like. I'm so much older than you.

[Sammy]

I'm like an old. No, it's all mentality.

[Hallie]

It's all mentality.

[Sammy]

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[Hallie]

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[Sammy]

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[Hallie]

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[Sammy]

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[Hallie]

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[Hallie]

What is something that you did when you're younger that mom and dad still don't know about till today? I feel like you were too good.

[Sammy]

I just like. No, the thing I wasn't too good. It was like I would always own up to it and I'd always be like honest about my mistakes because I felt so guilty all the time. Whenever I like made a mistake, I.

[Hallie]

Like can't even think about something I've done that I haven't owned up to my parents.

[Sammy]

Exactly.

[Hallie]

I feel like we've besides like drugs. Sorry.

[Sammy]

Right.

[Hallie]

I've done it.

[Sammy]

I mean I feel like we've always like kind of owned up to. Maybe not Chad, maybe not.

[Hallie]

I don't know. And I don't know what Brent does in our free time. Brendan used to be a bad.

[Sammy]

Bryn was sneaky. I heard about this.

[Hallie]

Rin was bad.

[Sammy]

Yeah.

[Hallie]

Brandon used to be used to steal the whip in the middle of the night and like go to Tyson.

[Sammy]

I didn't even know that.

[Hallie]

I actually didn't know that she was like 15 too. She had just gotten her like permit and she's like I'm taking the car. Yeah, mom used to freak out.

[Sammy]

I know.

[Hallie]

She. And we like, we'd come back like up and crossfaded and she'd be sitting down like in the chair in the kitchen. She'd be like, it's 2:00am I'm like, yeah, yeah.

[Sammy]

See, I didn't even know like any of that. Like, I didn't know she would like sneak off or anything. I was, I had that conversation like a month ago.

[Hallie]

Yeah. Did mom watch the episode with Chad?

[Sammy]

No. She saw a clip of her talk of you guys talking about your like ideal boyfriend or something. Like Chad, who Chad sees you with.

[Hallie]

Yeah. Did you agree with that?

[Sammy]

I forget what his opinion was. What was it again?

[Hallie]

Something like it was probably someone like a bit older, kinder, wiser. Not someone that.

[Sammy]

Someone who can keep you in check, I think was.

[Hallie]

Yeah. Keep me in check.

[Sammy]

Yeah. Yeah, I, I definitely like do agree to an extent.

[Hallie]

Do you think I'm mean to my ex boyfriends?

[Sammy]

I mean, to my knowledge you're not really like in contact with them. I don't. And honestly, no.

[Hallie]

Do you think I was when I was dating them?

[Sammy]

No. Like, I like means a strong word. Like I wouldn't say you were mean to them.

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[Sammy]

Yeah, absolutely not. Like, I mean like you would definitely like, ah.

[Hallie]

Like you're doing the most.

[Sammy]

Yeah. Like, come on. A little nicer. Yeah, I guess.

[Hallie]

But my delivery's not good ever.

[Sammy]

Well, you've dated some like really sweet kids though. I thought like one. Yeah, but he's the only one I like really consider. I mean, you had a high school boyfriend who's like a nice guy, but like, was he great to you? No. But then the college boyfriend, great guy, was he good to you? Yeah, he was treating like maybe.

[Hallie]

No, he wasn't that great to me for.

[Sammy]

Okay, so these are things. I don't know. You know what? Yeah, but like from a third party perspective as like the younger brother, I was bad. Yeah. I mean, let's just say it's not exactly what I would put up with. The Brennan Peter kind of connection.

[Hallie]

Well, that took a lot of. Bryn dated some Brent.

[Sammy]

Yeah.

[Hallie]

Weirdos.

[Sammy]

He went through trial and error for sure.

[Hallie]

To say the least. Yeah, she went through trial and error.

[Sammy]

But I think that's what it's all about for you. I think you found out what you don't want in someone and. And what benefits you.

[Hallie]

Brynn's also sober.

[Sammy]

Yeah.

[Hallie]

So maybe if I like was sober I could like actually see straight to.

[Sammy]

Find a guy that's true, too.

[Hallie]

Yeah.

[Sammy]

It's all about what you consider the standard.

[Hallie]

I think I just don't know that yet.

[Sammy]

And. And that's fine. I think that comes with, like, experience and stuff. Like, even at 23, I'm kind of still learning, like, you know, all right, this is definitely what I don't want to deal with, and this is something that I do. Like, this is something that does, you know, kind of work.

[Hallie]

Are you selective with the girls you let in your orbit?

[Sammy]

Yeah.

[Hallie]

Why? Because you're scared they're, like, gonna be fans of mine?

[Sammy]

Yeah. Like, if I'd be lying if I said that wasn't, like, kind of on the back.

[Hallie]

Because you hate that.

[Sammy]

Because I do hate.

[Hallie]

You said. It's a red flag if they follow me.

[Sammy]

Red flag if they follow you. Double red flag if it's Alex, too. Triple red flag if it's Lauren.

[Hallie]

Like, yo, triple.

[Sammy]

Exactly. We're just. Just keep adding the flags. The more you feel like it's like, me, Alex, bring Paige in there. Also, like, yeah. I mean, Tommy, Paul, it's over. Like, you know, like, I don't even. Unblocking, right? Exactly. No, I mean, no. All jokes aside, like, it's definitely something that I, like, kind of consider, but I don't know. I try and, like, I don't know how I'm going to, like, meet someone. Like, you know what I mean?

[Hallie]

You'll meet someone. I'm not worried about.

[Sammy]

I'm not worried about it.

[Hallie]

I'm worried about me.

[Sammy]

Yeah. No, I wouldn't worry about you. I think these things just happen when you set up literally everything else in your life.

[Hallie]

That's.

[Sammy]

I think they just come along. You know what I mean?

[Hallie]

Yeah.

[Sammy]

I think, like, they just, like, start to fall into place, and you start to, like, attract people that, like, will benefit you the more you do you. That makes sense. And I don't know, I think, like, I've come across some people where, like, at first it, you know, looked great and then it just didn't. And I think it's kind of just biting the bullet early and knowing that, all right, yeah, this isn't going to work out, you know, Like, I don't like to, you know, respectfully, you know, lack of a better term, like, waste my time in a sense of. Yeah. Like, this isn't gonna go anywhere. So, like, why keep pursuing this?

[Hallie]

Yeah.

[Sammy]

You know what I mean? So. And people have done that to me, you know, like, so. And that's honestly respectable.

[Hallie]

So I just think, yeah, single for now is best.

[Sammy]

Single for now, trying to figure out.

[Hallie]

What you're doing and just like.

[Sammy]

Yeah, I mean, at least for me.

[Hallie]

Keep it light.

[Sammy]

There's so much uncertainty in my. My near future that it's like, you know, I don't know if I'm, like, ready for that. You know what I mean?

[Hallie]

No, it's too much. I got to, like, figure out and are annoying.

[Sammy]

They can be, for sure.

[Hallie]

Okay, wait. I think I covered everything. Have you done 75 hard?

[Sammy]

Have I done 75 hard? No, but I was actually just talking about doing it. Chad did 75 hard.

[Hallie]

Chad did 75 hard.

[Sammy]

Would you do 75 hard?

[Hallie]

Fuck, no.

[Sammy]

Maybe 75 seconds I'll do.

[Hallie]

Yeah.

[Sammy]

Not what I meant by that.

[Hallie]

I. I'm of sobriety.

[Sammy]

No, it's. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Hallie]

I think I could do 75 seconds, 75 hours. Do you want to do 75 hard? I think doing anything like that to, like, an extreme feels like doing the most. I would do, like, 30 soft.

[Sammy]

30 soft.

[Hallie]

Like, 75 hard consists of, like, journaling twice a day.

[Sammy]

Yeah.

[Hallie]

Two workouts a day.

[Sammy]

Reading 10 books. No, no. Reading 10 pages. Reading 10 pages.

[Hallie]

Oh, my God. Yeah. Reading 10 pages a day. I can't even see, bro. I can't even see. I'm so blind right now, actually, I.

[Sammy]

Bet it would help, though. No, I bet if you locked in for, like, three weeks, it would help. I feel like. I feel like a whole new. Like, if you did three weeks hard.

[Hallie]

Yeah, I could do it.

[Sammy]

One day is hard.

[Hallie]

It just seems like doing the most. It also kind of seems kind of. It's like, pick me.

[Sammy]

I kind of agree.

[Hallie]

It's like, hi, I'm doing 75 hard. I don't give a.

[Sammy]

Like, are you really doing 75 hard if you're not posting about it? You know what I mean?

[Hallie]

Yeah. It's like, does it when a tree falls in the wood.

[Sammy]

I've never heard, like, someone like, yeah, that's true.

[Hallie]

That's the kind of vibe I'm getting from it.

[Sammy]

Like, if you 75 hard. You're talking about it.

[Hallie]

Yeah.

[Sammy]

Yeah.

[Hallie]

Do you want a fucking cookie?

[Sammy]

Like, exactly.

[Hallie]

No, I can't get any salad. Yeah. Like, I want to enjoy life and enjoy my hangovers and make mistakes, and I feel like 75 heart is too rigid. It's too serious, and I'm not a serious person, but I could see you doing it and, like, loving it.

[Sammy]

I mean, maybe if it were, like. See, there's such a. I guess the best time to do it is, like, January.

[Hallie]

I Do, like, driving.

[Sammy]

Nothing going on in January, February, you.

[Hallie]

Know, Unless you, like, go to Miami.

[Sammy]

But then again, like, we went to Miami. I'm not doing 75 hard in Miami.

[Hallie]

No.

[Sammy]

Like, we got after it.

[Hallie]

But, like, I could pick, I think, what this kind of 75 hard I would want to do is, like, pick a habit, a new habit I want in place or a habit I want to cut out and just be like, I'm gonna do 75 days harder.

[Sammy]

Like Lent.

[Hallie]

Yeah.

[Sammy]

Yeah.

[Hallie]

That's what I would do. Maybe I'll do that in January.

[Sammy]

Yeah.

[Hallie]

Or in September.

[Sammy]

Like, set. Like. Like, kind of like New Year's resolutions. But only do it for, like, I don't know.

[Hallie]

Yeah. For like, a quarter of the year.

[Sammy]

Think about 75 hard, too. Is like, what are you gonna, like, stick to a routine? And then, like, once it's over, it's like, all right, I'm done. I'm just gonna go back to doing what I was.

[Hallie]

Where the cigarettes are.

[Sammy]

Yeah, exactly. So that's what I never really understood about it. That's why I don't think I. I really don't know if I would do it.

[Hallie]

I mean, maybe, but Chad, like, had to do it. And he was talking about it, and.

[Sammy]

He was talking about. But, like.

[Hallie]

And he was.

[Sammy]

He felt, like, so much better after he did it.

[Hallie]

I know, but then he just started.

[Sammy]

But then it's like. Yeah. And I don't know. I feel like you kind of.

[Hallie]

What's the point?

[Sammy]

Yeah.

[Hallie]

What's new in your love life? We talked about your single. You had a single Sammy Summer.

[Sammy]

I did have a single Sammy Summer.

[Hallie]

You worked a Gaslight bar backing.

[Sammy]

Yeah, I bar back that Gaslight on Nantucket. Great bar where the.

[Hallie]

Is going crazy for you. Was it annoying I saw a couple videos of people recording you.

[Sammy]

Yeah.

[Hallie]

Which, by the way, like, I like, don't get the recording thing from afar. Like, the sneaky recording thing. It never jives well with me.

[Sammy]

Yeah.

[Hallie]

I'm like, just say hi to him.

[Sammy]

Yeah.

[Hallie]

Or just say hi.

[Sammy]

See, I don't know. I like. I love meeting new people.

[Hallie]

Same. Which is why I'm like, I think it's funny.

[Sammy]

Yeah. I think it's great. Like, and some people do come into the bar, especially since I, you know, kind of started posting. Like, a couple kids have come in, and, you know, this was cool for me. Like, one kid came in and said, like, you know, he's seen my. My videos, and, like, I got him to start working out. And, like, that was the coolest moment for me like ever like that was the highlight of my summer.

[Hallie]

Yeah.

[Sammy]

And like meeting people like that is great. And then. Yeah. There's the other end of it. You know, there were a few instances where people come in and kind of try and push your buttons a little bit on purpose and you, you kind of know what's going on and I don't know, you just kind of have to be stoic about it and just keep going. The thing about the bar backing job o is that you're always going like I couldn't even stop and talk to you guys when you guys came in.

[Hallie]

I know.

[Sammy]

So it was like I remember when.

[Hallie]

I was a hostess at crew when I was first starting social media, I didn't have like a massive following but like people were like, especially on island kind of like.

[Sammy]

Right.

[Hallie]

Started to recognize me a little bit and people would just like come in and like record me at the host to stand.

[Sammy]

Yeah.

[Hallie]

So embarrassed. Like it was like an embarrassing thing.

[Sammy]

Yeah. I don't know. I was, I get a little uncomfortable with it at times and I, I notice it. Like a lot of people think they're being like slick about it, but like. Yeah, I mean you're at the bar and I work behind the bar so like I see.

[Hallie]

So the camera's like in.

[Sammy]

My job is to literally see everything.

[Hallie]

Yeah.

[Sammy]

You know, but yeah, I mean again I kind of just, I don't really care. I just keep moving and kick rocks.

[Hallie]

Ho.

[Sammy]

Yeah. That wouldn't be too like, you know, friendly.

[Hallie]

Yeah.

[Sammy]

But is it what I'm thinking? Absolutely.

[Hallie]

Yeah.

[Sammy]

But I'll just probably go grab like ice or like some bug want and.

[Hallie]

Throw it at her.

[Sammy]

No, no, no, no. I wish, I wish it's. But yeah. Done with that job now. So on to the next. Onto the next. Yeah. I don't mean to interrupt your meal, but I love Geico's fast and friendly claim service.

[Hallie]

Well, that's how Geico gets 97% customer satisfaction.

[Sammy]

Yeah. I'll let you get back to your food.

[Hallie]

So are you just gonna watch me eat?

[Sammy]

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[Hallie]

Okay, guys, for this next segment, Sammy, I thought we'd play, like, a little game, like, who's more likely to. Me or you? We're going to answer each prompt and then say, who's more likely to. It's pretty straightforward.

[Sammy]

Let's go.

[Hallie]

Okay. Who got in more trouble growing up? Is it between me and Sammy or me, Sammy, and my siblings? Because Chad.

[Sammy]

Chad would be the answer.

[Hallie]

Chad got in trouble the most. I was always apologetic. Chad was always just, like, out of sight, out of mind, you know?

[Sammy]

Yeah. Yeah. Yours were, like. You did, like, some things that were like. Like, those are. That's tough to get behind. It's tough to defend that one. Yeah, but. And then Chad would just drop, like, nukes. Like, he would just drop bombs and, like.

[Hallie]

Yeah. Then I'll be like, look at him.

[Sammy]

Yeah.

[Hallie]

Yeah. I'd be like, it's distracting them from my stuff.

[Sammy]

Right.

[Hallie]

That's kind of what we discussed.

[Sammy]

Right.

[Hallie]

Okay.

[Sammy]

Who tattled more between you and I? Yeah, I mean, probably me.

[Hallie]

Yeah.

[Sammy]

Honest.

[Hallie]

That felt like a directed question.

[Sammy]

Yeah, it was definitely directed, for sure.

[Hallie]

Who cried more as a kid?

[Sammy]

You didn't really cry.

[Hallie]

I'm not a big crier.

[Sammy]

Probably you. Probably me.

[Hallie]

Yeah. I have a heart of steel.

[Sammy]

I mean, I used to get so mad at you guys.

[Hallie]

Yeah.

[Sammy]

You and I, like, I don't think people understand. Like, you and I used to go.

[Hallie]

Hate each other, like, physically fight.

[Sammy]

We had the. Yeah, I remember. And I was so mad. It was like, my sophomore year of high school. You and I got into the, like, a fight the night before graduation at. At Dexter. And you hit me so hard in the head with the. With the remote.

[Hallie]

I remember that.

[Sammy]

And I had a massive bruise on my eye, and people are asking me, like, what was going on because you have to go to graduation at Dexter.

[Hallie]

Yeah.

[Sammy]

So I'm, like, covering it up, and I'm, like, trying to come up with, like, a cool story other than, like, oh, my sister took the remote and absolutely clocked me in the head.

[Hallie]

Like, remember that time we were, like, at Easter, the parking lot in the car, and you whacked me across the face?

[Sammy]

When.

[Hallie]

This is when you were, like, really young, so it wasn't, like, sketchy.

[Sammy]

Yeah.

[Hallie]

You were, like, eight.

[Sammy]

Oh, yeah. Yeah.

[Hallie]

I had, like, two. Massive waltz.

[Sammy]

We used to go ahead.

[Hallie]

No, we just go at it, like, this is why, like, I don't know. Like, I have brothers, so, like, I could, like. I don't know.

[Sammy]

Yeah.

[Hallie]

I handled the heat.

[Sammy]

Yeah. You. And I definitely got. I Think in the most disagreements, like, even Chad and I, like, as brothers fighting. Chad and I fought all the time.

[Hallie]

I just thought you were just, like, a tattletale.

[Sammy]

Yeah. And I thought you were, like, just the worst. The worst. Like, got away with everything. Like.

[Hallie]

Yeah, I did get away with everything.

[Sammy]

You did.

[Hallie]

I was very smart and calculated. I got away with everything.

[Sammy]

But now we're boys.

[Hallie]

Now we're boys. Who had the worst teenage phase? Me. I don't know. You have.

[Sammy]

I don't know, though. I had some moments.

[Hallie]

You remember when mom almost sent you to rehab for Fortnite?

[Sammy]

No.

[Hallie]

She, like, seriously considered.

[Sammy]

No, she banned me. Like, junior year of high school, I would play.

[Hallie]

She thought you had a problem.

[Sammy]

She thought I had a problem.

[Hallie]

She, like, printed out, like, addiction papers, and she was ready to, like.

[Sammy]

I didn't even know that.

[Hallie]

Yeah, she wanted you to, like. She was, like, talking to, like, Brynn's therapist about it.

[Sammy]

No.

[Hallie]

Yeah, she, like, wanted you to go to rehab. I mean, for Fortnite.

[Sammy]

I'm like, mom, I was so good at that game.

[Hallie]

I'm like, mom, you don't even know.

[Sammy]

Rehab's like, yeah, that's free. I didn't even know that. I'm gonna ask her about that.

[Hallie]

Yeah.

[Sammy]

Yeah. No, she, like.

[Hallie]

Or, like, therapy or something.

[Sammy]

Like, she put a ban on me. I only could play for, like, an hour a day or something. They thought you were, like, cooking me.

[Hallie]

They thought you were, like, addicted because you would, like, freak out. But I was like, relax. He lives.

[Sammy]

I know, but, like, everyone was doing it, so it was like, I lived. I also had, like, good grades.

[Hallie]

I was just gonna ask who had.

[Sammy]

The better report cards, I would say, I think in high school, I did. In college. You did?

[Hallie]

Really?

[Sammy]

Yeah.

[Hallie]

Yeah. I actually did pretty well in college.

[Sammy]

Yeah, you did well in college?

[Hallie]

Yeah, I just, like, didn't give a. In high school. Yeah, I was busy.

[Sammy]

Yeah. Yeah. High school. I had pretty good grades. Nothing crazy.

[Hallie]

Who started more fights at the dinner table? Are you. I don't start fights at the dinner table.

[Sammy]

Probably me. Because the thing you're confrontational is. I'm confrontational in a way that, like, I don't care who it is. I'm, like. I'm, like, brutally honest, and I, like, I. I'm the.

[Hallie]

You can't.

[Sammy]

I'm the guy who addresses the elephant in the room.

[Hallie]

Yeah. And it makes everyone uncomfortable.

[Sammy]

Everyone uncomfortable. But, like, I can't sit there anym longer, and you know what I mean?

[Hallie]

You're like, mom, what the blah, blah, Blah.

[Sammy]

But, like, I would bark at her and, like, you guys would kind of look at me like, bro, not. Not tonight. Not tonight, not tonight.

[Hallie]

I would, like, get back from, like, just traveling all the way from New York to Boston. We'd sit down for a family meal and be like, can we confront the situation at hand? And I'd be like, all right.

[Sammy]

Yeah. I mean, but there were. I mean, I feel like we all kind of had.

[Hallie]

You just want to squash the beef?

[Sammy]

Yeah.

[Hallie]

Or, like, make steps to.

[Sammy]

I like to address the situation. Like, okay, let's talk it out. I don't want to, like, keep walking around the house, you know, kind of on eggshells, like. Yeah, you know, I'll just get it over with.

[Hallie]

Yeah, you're good at that. Who would be more likely to get arrested for doing something dumb?

[Sammy]

You.

[Hallie]

Yeah, okay. For something like, partying related.

[Sammy]

I mean, my situation in the doctor was ridiculous.

[Hallie]

You have a short fuse and you'll fight a man.

[Sammy]

I'm level headed to an extent, but if. If you go overboard.

[Hallie]

I can't just brawl. That piss me off. I wish I could, but I can't.

[Sammy]

Yeah, but I don't like getting fights.

[Hallie]

Not really. You know, didn't like, you want to. You've come close.

[Sammy]

I've come close. But, like, I think fighting is kind of like. It looks ridiculous at our age.

[Hallie]

Yeah, it does.

[Sammy]

It's like, avoided. Only bad can happen out of, like, fighting.

[Hallie]

Yeah. It's not going to resolve shit.

[Sammy]

Like. Yeah, yeah. You slam something. Like, you could, like, accidentally kill someone or, like, I could get her. They could get, like, it's just, like, not worth it.

[Hallie]

Who would do better in prison? Me. I would run fudgeing. Show me. Hi, bitches. Line the fuck up, please. You think you would. They would try to bend you over.

[Sammy]

No.

[Hallie]

Like a fork in your ass. That's what they do.

[Sammy]

You think you would dominate in prison?

[Hallie]

I would be head bitch in prison. Prison. I was having a week.

[Sammy]

Are you comparing rehab to prison?

[Hallie]

Kind of. Kind of. Kind of am. I had. Drawing pictures of me. I had girls coming up to my door in rehab, drawing me like I was Rose in the Titanic and then slipping the image underneath my door.

[Sammy]

Okay.

[Hallie]

And I would be like, who wants to be in my knitting group? Who wants color with me? Who wants.

[Sammy]

And all that same stuff is going on in prison.

[Hallie]

No, but, like, in prison, I would be like, I need a shank made. Becky, do it for me. Or you'll see what's good. Becky.

[Sammy]

All right, I can see that. Maybe it's you.

[Hallie]

I would run show in prison. I might have to put on a couple pounds, but, like.

[Sammy]

Yeah, but I'm not, like, I wouldn't be, like, some victim in prison, though.

[Hallie]

I don't think you'd be a victim in prison.

[Sammy]

No.

[Hallie]

But I'm just saying I would run show in a female prison.

[Sammy]

Yeah. That's fair.

[Hallie]

Yeah. We both would do well.

[Sammy]

Yeah.

[Hallie]

We should go to prison.

[Sammy]

Let's go to prison.

[Hallie]

Let's go to prison.

[Sammy]

Yeah.

[Hallie]

Hi. This podcast is done and we're gonna go to prison. Goodbye. Who's more likely to throw a drink at someone in public?

[Sammy]

I would never do that.

[Hallie]

I don't think I would do that either.

[Sammy]

Yeah. Unless I know someone.

[Hallie]

Unless she my man. I don't have a man, though.

[Sammy]

Yeah, I wouldn't. I wouldn't do that.

[Hallie]

But if I saw a Becky, that came from my man. If I had a man, Becky would be getting a drink thrown at her. I lack some self control sometimes when it comes to that stuff. Who has more unhinged exes? I think we both have.

[Sammy]

You have.

[Hallie]

I've had unhinged situationships.

[Sammy]

I mean, like, it depends what you define. Unhinged. I would definitely say Give at least 1x.

[Hallie]

You have one I could think of that's unhinged.

[Sammy]

Oh, yeah.

[Hallie]

Not case.

[Sammy]

Yeah. Yeah. But again, like, I don't. I don't know. I feel like I'm on, like, good terms with them.

[Hallie]

No, I love her, but she's, like, nutty, you know?

[Sammy]

I'm nutty for sure.

[Hallie]

Like, I. If like, someone to ask my exes, do you have an unhinged ax? They'd be like, yeah, Hally Bachelder. She's crazy. And I'd be like, hi. Follow me.

[Sammy]

Okay. So, yeah.

[Hallie]

Yeah. I don't think it's an insult. Who would lie under oath for the other.

[Sammy]

I think I would do it for you. Yeah. Yeah.

[Hallie]

I would do it for you too.

[Sammy]

Yeah.

[Hallie]

Hopefully we don't have to, like, get to that, but, like, I would.

[Sammy]

No, I would do life in prison view.

[Hallie]

That's so nice.

[Sammy]

I don't know if it meant you. I would. I'm not even joking.

[Hallie]

Why?

[Sammy]

I don't know.

[Hallie]

Because what if I, like, killed someone?

[Sammy]

Well, then I couldn't do life in.

[Hallie]

Prison because you killed someone. Yeah.

[Sammy]

But if it came down to it and I had to choose, I'd be.

[Hallie]

Like, damn, that's loyalty.

[Sammy]

Yeah. Chad Halle or Chad Brin.

[Hallie]

Interesting.

[Sammy]

Yeah.

[Hallie]

Anyways, I had to.

[Sammy]

Yeah.

[Hallie]

I mean, I don't think who falls harder and faster? Who falls harder, like, for love, I'm assuming me. I fall pretty hard, too.

[Sammy]

See, I don't see that side of you ever, though.

[Hallie]

No, because you can never let them know.

[Sammy]

I get pretty bought in.

[Hallie]

Yeah, maybe it's different when it's like, coming from a man versus a girl, but, like, I can never let a man know how I feel until, like, I don't know. Lock. I've learned that the hard way. Who's most likely to be in a relationship next?

[Sammy]

That's a good question. Probably also, like, who do you think will get married first kind of thing.

[Hallie]

Not me.

[Sammy]

Like, if you were to guess the order of the siblings, what would you say?

[Hallie]

Bryn? I mean, I could see Chad doing something crazy.

[Sammy]

No, that's what I was gonna say. Like, I could see him, like, Chad's.

[Hallie]

Like, a low bang being like, I love you. Like, yeah, our love is forbidden. You know, like that kind of.

[Sammy]

I have no idea. Maybe me.

[Hallie]

Yeah, I think it would go. I'll probably get married.

[Sammy]

I think you'll get married before me.

[Hallie]

Yeah.

[Sammy]

Yeah, that. That would make more sense.

[Hallie]

Yeah, but, like, I'm just off on men right now. I keep hooking up with these bisexuals.

[Sammy]

Okay, so maybe me.

[Hallie]

Yeah.

[Sammy]

Yeah.

[Hallie]

I don't know what that says about me. There's a lot of bi men. Is that like a Gen Z thing? Are your friends by.

[Sammy]

Not that I know of. I can ask them.

[Hallie]

Yeah, you should text them.

[Sammy]

Yeah, we have, like, a group chat. Maybe I'll drop that text.

[Hallie]

Who has ghosted more people? Probably me.

[Sammy]

Probably you.

[Hallie]

Yeah. I love a good ghosting situation.

[Sammy]

You do ghost people?

[Hallie]

I ghost everyone if I don't give a. About them. No. Yeah.

[Sammy]

See, I. I don't know. I get. I feel good guilty. I always say something.

[Hallie]

Yeah, I'm learning that you should say something.

[Sammy]

But then again, I've also learned saying something is, like, almost just as bad.

[Hallie]

You can't win either way. They end up without a partner, so.

[Sammy]

Exactly. It's like, there's no, like, nice.

[Hallie]

You know, I think the only thing that's good about not ghosting is that it eliminates the gray area. So, like, right. You can always give someone the benefit of the doubt being like, oh, maybe they're busy. Like, it's a busy summertime. Like, they're going to get back to me in the fall. Or, oh, maybe like, something came up for them, like, always giving that person, like, the next benefit of the doubt, I guess. Whereas you send a text, you're like, hi, Right. I like you as a friend, but, like, just as a friend. Goodbye. Goodbye, Kyle.

[Sammy]

I guess the reason why I don't ghost is because I'd rather someone just say straight up to my face, like, I want nothing to do with you, then ghost me.

[Hallie]

That would, like, send me out a window.

[Sammy]

But then it's like you said, no gray area. It's green or it's.

[Hallie]

No, it's black or white.

[Sammy]

Yeah, I was gonna say it's purple or red. You know, I was gonna say green or red. Like, go.

[Hallie]

Like go or stop.

[Sammy]

Go or say.

[Hallie]

Yeah, I get what you're saying.

[Sammy]

No, but you know what I mean. Like, there is. It creates more clarity.

[Hallie]

Yeah, we like clarity here.

[Sammy]

We like clarity. Clarity's good.

[Hallie]

Who was more game at the bar?

[Sammy]

You might be more extroverted at the bar.

[Hallie]

Yeah.

[Sammy]

Not that I'm, like, sitting there, like, with my hands in my pockets, but, like, I feel like the way we act in social settings is a little different.

[Hallie]

Yeah.

[Sammy]

Like, I kind of, like, sit and hang out and maybe both of us.

[Hallie]

We got game.

[Sammy]

We got game.

[Hallie]

I think we have Riz. Chad has the most Riz.

[Sammy]

Well, Chad could. You could lock him in a room, and he could have a conversation with a wall.

[Hallie]

He would do the best in prison. He would rise up the guards and he'd be.

[Sammy]

He's so charismatic and, like. Yeah, he's got the best personality.

[Hallie]

Who's more likely to rally after blackout?

[Sammy]

You.

[Hallie]

Yeah. Ben. There, done that.

[Sammy]

Yep.

[Hallie]

Who's more likely to marry a celebrity? Me.

[Sammy]

You.

[Hallie]

Yeah. I was saying, I want to enter my wag era.

[Sammy]

It's a numbers game. You're around more of them.

[Hallie]

That is a numbers game.

[Sammy]

Yeah.

[Hallie]

Yeah. Who is most likely to just call and say hi?

[Sammy]

Me. You would never call me and say hi. I have once, like, since I've had a phone.

[Hallie]

Yeah. I called twice.

[Sammy]

Take this to the most, the nicest way possible, but worse than my phone. Gun to my head. If someone said, you have to call someone right now, and if they don't pick up, like, I'll give you a million dollars in cash, you'd call me. Ringing you in a heartbeat. You're like, pickup rate is like, I don't know, maybe, like, less than 1%. Yeah, it's like one every, like, 10 calls, so 10%. But you're busy. You're busy.

[Hallie]

I'm busy. I also, like, I'm always on DND because if it's not you bothering me, it's like, work emails, someone hitting me online.

[Sammy]

I don't know something you do like a lot more like watching you in your day to day today, like I was like, damn, like you're doing a ton of stuff.

[Hallie]

No, I know. I had a busy day.

[Sammy]

You're less busy.

[Hallie]

Yeah.

[Sammy]

Is that what like a day in the life looks like for you?

[Hallie]

Like not as heavy as today. I, I was on three podcasts today.

[Sammy]

Yeah.

[Hallie]

And then I had two calls and now we're here.

[Sammy]

I was like impressed. I was like, geez.

[Hallie]

Yeah.

[Sammy]

Social batteries high.

[Hallie]

Yeah. I mean I feel like I've a lot of practice.

[Sammy]

Yeah. Hopefully that's another thing about Chad. He has unlimited social battery.

[Hallie]

Yeah.

[Sammy]

Like he could go round the clock.

[Hallie]

I mean I could do that too but like during the week I can't talk to anyone.

[Sammy]

Yeah.

[Hallie]

Unless it's work related. Then I like lock in.

[Sammy]

But like, yeah.

[Hallie]

When I'm out like I can do, I can make myself do it. You gotta.

[Sammy]

Yeah, exactly.

[Hallie]

You gotta do it.

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[Hallie]

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[Hallie]

Okay, next we're gonna do like a little Q and A. Sammy. These are questions that listeners have entered via the extra pretty story. And I'm sure a lot of them are going to be unhinged. I'm just going through them now and they're a mix for sure. But I will just pick a couple and see what your thoughts are. Your opinions.

[Sammy]

Do it.

[Hallie]

If a guy cheats once, do you think he will do it again?

[Sammy]

100.

[Hallie]

Really?

[Sammy]

Yeah.

[Hallie]

You don't think, you don't believe guys can change?

[Sammy]

No, I didn't say that. But like based on what I've seen and like the people that I know, the, the guys that I know that have cheated, they've ended up doing it again.

[Hallie]

Yeah. Usually the success rate of that is.

[Sammy]

Rate is. That is probably higher. It's probably more likely than not.

[Hallie]

Yeah, it's a numbers game probably, too. Favorite childhood memories of us?

[Sammy]

Like, of you and I or just like, in general? I don't know. We have so many. Like, obviously in Nantucket. We've done. We've had a bunch of memories growing up there. Like the summers when we were like. I forget what that one year was in that summer. Yeah, we had a blast. All like 10, 12 years old. Like, we used to, like, meet up with every kid in the neighborhood.

[Hallie]

Oh, yeah. You know what I mean? Like Ding Dong Ditch Gnome.

[Sammy]

Like, it was every night, like, you just go around.

[Hallie]

Just like, we'd go to Force 5, go to the candy shop.

[Sammy]

Like, those were like peak days.

[Hallie]

Yeah, those are peak days. I feel like that's the best time to be alive on Nantucket. You don't. Like, social media wasn't a thing.

[Sammy]

No.

[Hallie]

None of us had phones we didn't care about.

[Sammy]

Like, we literally just would like, team up. Manhunt and then just like ding Dong Ditch until like one in the morning and then watch.

[Hallie]

Go to bed.

[Sammy]

We would pack the basement and watch.

[Hallie]

Like some movie, like always a scary movie.

[Sammy]

We always. You and I always used to watch Friends. Like, we've seen every episode of Friends like a hundred times.

[Hallie]

No, I could like, recite it.

[Sammy]

I'm not even kidding. We would go back. We have the CDs, me, you, Jilly.

[Hallie]

We would like, all go to camps during the day on Nantucket. I would do surfing camp.

[Sammy]

Yeah. You guys were at the surfing camp.

[Hallie]

I was looking nasty.

[Sammy]

You were good.

[Hallie]

And then I got scared of the ocean.

[Sammy]

Really?

[Hallie]

Yeah.

[Sammy]

I didn't know that.

[Hallie]

I'm like, scared of the water. No.

[Sammy]

I used to do the sports camps.

[Hallie]

With sharks everywhere and they want to eat me.

[Sammy]

They just caught like a massive shark off the coast in Nantucket.

[Hallie]

Don't even see that scene.

[Sammy]

It was like 1400 pounds and 14ft long or something. Ridiculous.

[Hallie]

Jesus.

[Sammy]

It was called, like, Contender or something.

[Hallie]

He named it.

[Sammy]

Yeah, it, like, swam up.

[Hallie]

Yo, that's Contender.

[Sammy]

Yeah.

[Hallie]

Yeah.

[Sammy]

Oh, that's just Contender.

[Hallie]

Oh, wait, that's just Contender.

[Sammy]

He's good. Yeah, he swam up from Florida. No worries.

[Hallie]

Yeah, he's valid. Don't worry about Contender. He's like a mega, like, it's great white. It's best family trip that we've ever been on.

[Sammy]

It's got to be one of the Aruba trips.

[Hallie]

Yeah. I remember when you kicked.

[Sammy]

When I kicked the glass Door.

[Hallie]

The glass door.

[Sammy]

That definitely wasn't the best trip, but he almost died. Yeah. I was 8, and Chad and I were. He was 10. And we got into a massive fight in the hotel lobby. And I remember he, like, did something. He, like, pushed me or punched me or whatever. And I chased him all the way up to our room and the hotel that we were staying. That. That we've been staying at for. I mean, since my parents were born, they have, like, these glass doors. They're like a wooden frame, but there's, like, glass in the middle. And he, like, slammed the door on my face. So, like, I tried kicking the door open, and I just kicked right through the glass and cut my foot open. And I, like. I guess I screamed so loud that, like, mom heard me, like, when she was on her run or something. And, like, she ran up.

[Hallie]

It was, like, centimeters. Yeah. Away from, like, your artery.

[Sammy]

Centimeter away from my artery. And she carried me, like, into, like, the rent a car and drove me to the hospital, and I got, like, went to the E.R. they put stitches in, and then the stitches came undone. So mom took a sewing kit in our. Yeah, that's why I still have. On the scar right here. There's still, like, those little dots. Oh, those are from the stitch.

[Hallie]

Damn, she's a badass.

[Sammy]

She sewed my, like, the stitches back together. And then we went to. Remember that water park? Yeah, we went to that water park, and they ripped out going down a slide. So my mom. So mom did it again, and I had to leave, and it was covered up, and she was just, like, on hand.

[Hallie]

Was like, like.

[Sammy]

Yeah. That's one thing about mom is like, she's like, therapist, doctor. Like, she knows everything.

[Hallie]

Yeah.

[Sammy]

You could literally go to her for anything, and she'll know it. She's so smart.

[Hallie]

Like, did they take sewing class back in the day?

[Sammy]

That's what I'm saying. I'm like, how do you know all this?

[Hallie]

I can barely put a sticker on.

[Sammy]

Forget it. I was sitting on that couch in that room. It was room 1408. I'll never forget that. I'm sitting on the couch in the living room, and she's sewing my foot, and I couldn't even look. I'm, like, crying, like, oh. And she's like, definitely not that trip. But we've had.

[Hallie]

But, yeah, some trips were good. Yeah. Yeah. Favorite place to go out in Boston.

[Sammy]

Mmm. For drinks. Well, for. For dinner. Grill 23 is the best restaurant, hands down, in Boston.

[Hallie]

I agree.

[Sammy]

Not even close. Like, overall, best food Best vibe.

[Hallie]

I think they mean, like, go out, like, party.

[Sammy]

That's what I thought you were getting at. So I would say for that, I don't know, like, the Southy thing. I think all the Southie bars are kind of the same, in a sense, you know? Like, a lot of my friends will go to, like, Playwright. Like, we'll all go to Loco Lounge. Like, I don't. I like local lounge. It can be fun.

[Hallie]

Local lounge is fun. It's probably my favorite place.

[Sammy]

That's probably my favorite place. Not a huge Lincoln fan.

[Hallie]

Capo. Capo. Basement.

[Sammy]

Basements, like hit or miss. Playwright's fun, though. I've had fun there.

[Hallie]

Playwright is fun.

[Sammy]

It's new. Yeah.

[Hallie]

What was it like living with me? You don't remember?

[Sammy]

No. I mean, messy. No, no, You. I don't really remember again.

[Hallie]

No, I was messy.

[Sammy]

Yeah, but you were. You went off to college when I was in, what, like, eighth grade or something?

[Hallie]

Yeah. I forget. There's, like, a massive age gap there.

[Sammy]

Yeah. So it's been a while.

[Hallie]

But what's one thing having sisters has taught you?

[Sammy]

That's a good question.

[Hallie]

Are crazy.

[Sammy]

I don't know. I guess it's taught me, like, be nice. How to treat women.

[Hallie]

Yeah. Be nice to girls.

[Sammy]

Very protective of you guys. I don't know. The last thing I'd ever want to see is, like, you guys hurt or, like, somebody hurt you. So, like, I feel like I take from those lessons, and that's what I don't want to do to someone. You know what I mean?

[Hallie]

Because, like, if a guy was mean to me, would you beat them up?

[Sammy]

I mean. Yeah, I wouldn't. That wouldn't sit well with me.

[Hallie]

Yeah. Break their legs. Like, if a guy, like, punched me in the face, would you find them?

[Sammy]

I'd be doing prison. We'd be in prison.

[Hallie]

Yeah, we'd be in prison.

[Sammy]

Like, that wouldn't sit well at all. I don't know. I'm very protective of you guys. That's all. I'll say.

[Hallie]

I love you. So this next chapter is going to be your most exciting one.

[Sammy]

Yeah.

[Hallie]

And be patient with yourself. I feel like you want to be, like, successful, like, right now, tomorrow, yesterday, and you have to give yourself some. Like, some great grace.

[Sammy]

Yeah. No, I know.

[Hallie]

Hard on yourself.

[Sammy]

Chad said the same thing today.

[Hallie]

Chad gives himself a little too much grief, but, like, somewhere in the middle.

[Sammy]

Yes.

[Hallie]

It will get figured out. Try different things, see what you like, and just don't be too hard on yourself because.

[Sammy]

Yeah.

[Hallie]

Comparison is a thief of joy 100. If you're comparing yourself to, like, what your friends are doing, you're never going to be happy with yourself.

[Sammy]

Right.

[Hallie]

So just like.

[Sammy]

Right.

[Hallie]

Go with the flow.

[Sammy]

Yeah. I don't know. Like, again, I think a lot of it comes back from just being in a completely different situation than what I have been doing the last five years. You know, playing a sport and. And being so surrounded by, like, you know, that team and that, like, environment. I loved it so much and how dedicated I was to it and, you know how much I loved it.

[Hallie]

Yeah.

[Sammy]

Now I'm kind of trying to channel all that energy into something else. And, you know, I've always been one of those people where, like, if things aren't going, you know, a certain way that I had imagined, then it's like the end of the world. And I'm like, I'm scrambling, like, why isn't this blah, blah. But again, I think it's all about perspective and, you know, appreciating kind of what you do have rather than what you don't have. And, yeah, it's important to have that mindset to kind of, you know, chase the next thing, but also just the only thing that's guaranteed is the moment that you're in. You know, like, tomorrow's not promised for anyone and it's important to kind of just live in the moment a little bit more and it's easier said than done, for sure.

[Hallie]

Yeah.

[Sammy]

But, yeah, I'm definitely trying to practice that. You know, I got some exciting things that I've been working on and, you know, trying to build on, you know, talking to Darren a little bit more about, you know, potentially doing something and in the fitness industry and just trying new things out, you know, So I think that's what, you know, being 23 is all about.

[Hallie]

Figuring it out.

[Sammy]

Figuring it out. Exactly. Nobody has a plan.

[Hallie]

Well, this is fun, Sammy.

[Sammy]

This is fun as always.

[Hallie]

I know. You should come back on. You should just be a co host.

[Sammy]

I should.

[Hallie]

Yeah.

[Sammy]

I know. Literally anytime.

[Hallie]

I know. It's fun having. It's so easy having, like, siblings on. We can just yapping and, like, go down memory lane. I had go on recently and she just like, it was just like going down memory lane. It was like the most fun thing ever.

[Sammy]

Yeah.

[Hallie]

As always, you can watch this episode on YouTube. You can listen to me on any other platform, like, subscribe, comment, tell your friends, say nice things, and I love you guys so much. I'll see you next week. Say bye, Sammy.

[Sammy]

Love you guys. It was a blast. It's fun.

[Hallie]

All right, bye.

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