Extra Dirty with Hallie Batchelder

Episode: Sorority hazing, LA influencer life & funemployment with Lindsey Fishman
Date: October 23, 2025
Host: Hallie Batchelder
Guest: Lindsey Fishman

Main Theme & Purpose

This episode of "Extra Dirty" is a vibrant, no-holds-barred conversation between NYC influencer Hallie Batchelder and rising LA TikTok personality Lindsey Fishman. The pair spiral through stories about chaotic influencer life, the weirdness of adulthood, the dark side of consulting jobs, the inside scoop on sorority hazing, the complexities of girl/girl friendships (and crimes), and the wild west that is content creation in the age of oversharing. No topic is off limits, and the banter is as hilariously unfiltered as promised.

Key Discussion Points & Insights

Meeting & Networking in the Influencer Ecosystem

• Intro to Lindsey Fishman / Mutual Connections:
  Hallie recounts how multiple people, including Kyle from Nelk and Mike Majlak, kept suggesting she meet Lindsey.

  • "Do you know how many people have brought you up to me in the past, like, three weeks?" (01:31, Hallie)

• Finding Fame in LA & TikTok:
  Lindsey shares the bizarre feeling of strangers knowing her, “not to sound like, egocentric or arrogant about it. But I’m like, who is talking about me right now? And like, tell me.” (01:53, Lindsey)

• Insider Influencer Life:
  Hallie and Lindsey riff about being behind the scenes and growing their platforms. Hallie reveals her NYC nightlife era, being a Tao “groupie.”

  • Hallie: "I used to be like the biggest like club thot groupie, like Tao groupie." (02:37)
  • Lindsey: “You would find me out every night… I’m jealous.” (02:44)

Aging, Adulthood, and Growing Pains

• Hangovers & Getting Older:
  Both women express horror at their new, grownup hangover experiences:

  • Lindsey: “I had two drinks over this weekend and I woke up hungover, dead. You would assume that I was in, like, rigor mortis state.” (00:44, 24:39)
  • Hallie: “Not to bring up the A word, but I could slam a whole bottle of Malibu when I was 19... and wake up and conduct surgery.” (00:53, 24:41)

• Ambivalence About Aging:

  • “30 is the new 20... once you’re like, 27, 28, 29, like, you’re old for now, and then it resets.” (05:30, Lindsey)

• Transitional College Phases:

  • Hallie: “When I was a senior in college, I felt like I was super washed up. But then you go into your first year of being, like, outside of college, and you feel like a freshman all over again.” (05:55)

Corporate Life, Quitting, and Funemployment

• Lindsey's Corporate Escape Plan:
  Lindsey talks about being in consulting/STEM and the toxic work environment:

  • “Working in, like, any sort of STEM field, corporate America job, like, it’s absolutely disgusting how people treat you…” (06:49)
  • “They told me I need to smile more on meetings. I’m like, why the fuck do you want to see me smile?” (07:11)

• Neither Can Describe Lindsey’s Consulting Role:

  • “That’s like the question that everybody asks… I don’t know what I do.” (07:46, Lindsey)

• Lindsey's Two Weeks Notice:

  • “I’m putting in my two weeks... I have a meeting in like 10 minutes, but I’m gonna put my two weeks in while I’m on that meeting.” (53:16, Lindsey)

Influencer Oversharing & TikTok Era

• Ranting to the Internet:

  • Lindsey: “I love going on TikTok Live, which is horrible, but I just go on there and I’m like ranting... I just keep talking to the walls.” (10:14)
  • Hallie: “I used to go on TikTok Live. Like, I was addicted to it.” (10:34)

• The Dangers of Going Viral:

  • Hallie describes drunken oversharing: “I went live once... just hooked up with this, like, really like – like he was hot, but he was bald and like his dick was very mid and underwhelming. And I just let – I let... it was so clear who I was talking about...” (10:49)

• Friends Get Updates from Lives:

  • Lindsey: “My friends would start going to TikTok Live to get updates on my life because I would just go on there.” (12:59)

Relationships, Situationships & Modern Sex

• Lindsey’s Relationship:

  • On her boyfriend: “He is... six-five, absolutely jacked, super athletic, biggest dick ever, and absolutely hilarious. And he’s not ginger.” (13:12, Lindsey)
  • They met through DM: “He sent me a dm. That’s honestly the modern day love story.” (13:41)

• Hallie's Dating Woes:

  • “I’m seeing like everyone... I just haven't met the right guy. I tend to go after like really red flag type of people or people that are like, in this industry.” (14:09)

• The Bi Guy ‘Pandemic’:

  • “No, it’s a bisexual pandemic. Not to say it’s a bad thing, but...” (15:04, Hallie)
  • Lindsey: “There’s this really popular family from my hometown... secretly sleeping around with their best guy, like friend group and they’re all secretly like bisexual...” (14:42)

• Condom Conversation:

  • Hallie: "The last two guys I’ve, like, in the past month have suggested using condoms. And I’m, like, kind of being offended by the condom epidemic." (49:36)
  • "I’m allergic." (49:51, Hallie)
  • "They smell bad... They give me yeast infections." (49:58, Lindsey)

Sorority, College, and Hazing Stories

• Greek Life Fails:

  • Hallie: “I was blacklisted, like the first week of college... made out with one of the seniors' boyfriends.” (25:30)
  • Lindsey: "I did actually, like, the older girls in my sorority were cool, though, and they got us on probation... girls after... my pledge class were absolute narcs." (26:38)

• Infamous House Incident:
  Lindsey on her sorority house: “One girl owned up to shitting in the shower and smearing it all over the walls when she was drunk. But nobody owned up at Purdue.” (26:54)

Bullying, Girl-on-Girl Crime, & the Internet

• Hate on Reddit and TikTok:

  • Lindsey: "There’s a six year old dad with an entire family that has created this perception of me online and thinks that I’m like his fourth daughter and it’s just like all fake in his head. People are insane." (29:21)
  • Hallie: “It’s like a lot of like moms being insulting. And I’m like, you have kids. Like, why are you bullying me online?” (29:53)

• Defending Others Online & Clapping Back:

  • “My favorite thing to do is... if I see a hate video about me, I'll go in the comments... if they follow me, I'll just block all of them.” (30:21, Hallie)
  • “I'll comment back... shut the fuck up. Like, unfollow me.” (30:39, Lindsey)

• Girl on Girl Crime Rate:

  • Hallie: “The girl and girl crime rate is insane right now. It's bad, it's gone up there.” (32:30)

• Relatable Bullying Anecdotes:
  Stories about Formspring, Ask.fm, and Facebook bullying during middle/high school.

Family, Childhood & Summer Camp

• Small Town Upbringing:
  “East side of Cleveland is set up where all of the actual cities are really small. So everyone at every school, like, kind of knows each other.” (21:34, Lindsey)

• Camp, Sports, and Social Awkwardness:

  • Hallie: “I was like a non athletic person. Like I'm like a deer on ice.” (20:32)
  • Lindsey: “I had one of my eye surgeries during lacrosse season and I was wearing like an eye patch for like a month... but they were like, we really need Lindsay to play, so I'm like running around.” (20:52)

Influencer & Career Firsts and Worsts (Segment: Firsts & Worsts)

First or Worst...

• Drunk Story: Both got drugged at separate bars; “I, like, gave somebody my cup for, like, two seconds, and... I was walking home. I had, like, one beer that night. As I'm walking home, I'm, like, crawling…” (37:04, Lindsey)
• Influencer/Creator Moments:
  • Hallie: “I would have to take, like, try to get people to buy Tito’s, and I would take selfies with grown men, and I had to get eight selfies a night... It’s like sex trafficking almost.” (39:17)
  • Worst PR Package: “This brand sent me everything they had in their whole, like, inventory... dildos that, like, stick to the wall... just sitting in my kitchen... decor maybe.” (41:03–41:49)
• Viral TikTok Moment:
  • Lindsey’s most viral (and embarrassing) deleted video: “It had like a million likes, but it’s gone.” (43:20, Lindsey)
• Getting ‘Canceled’:
  • Hallie: “I got canceled really early on, but, like, for something I didn’t even do..." (43:53)

Wild Relationships & Situationship Horror Stories

• DM from an NBA Player:
  • Lindsey: “Jordan Poole... found my spam account and then started DMing my spam and I was like, how the fuck did you find me?” (45:49)
• Worst Situationship: Scientologist:
  • Lindsey: “He starts, like, sweating, like... bullets... and he goes, ‘I'm a Scientologist’... I felt bad, like, breaking up with somebody over their beliefs. But... it’s a cult.” (46:52–47:35)

Iconic and Notable Quotes & Moments

• On streaming culture:
  Hallie: “I would rather, I think, die than do that [stream constantly]. I’d get canceled.” (09:46)

• On bullying:
  Hallie: “Hot people don’t troll.” (32:17)

• Lindsey on influencer hate:
  “It’s just like I’ve said before, the girl and girl crime rate is insane right now. It’s bad, it’s gone up there.” (32:30)

• On quitting jobs:
  Lindsey: “I'm putting in my two weeks... I'm gonna put my two weeks in while I'm on that meeting.” (53:16)

Timestamps for Key Segments

• The Vegas Simulation & Nightlife: 02:37–04:44
• On Aging & Hangovers: 04:44–06:17, 24:22–25:23
• Quitting Corporate Life: 06:37–07:54, 53:12–53:29
• Oversharing & TikTok Live Confessions: 10:03–12:59
• Modern Relationships & The Bi Guy Era: 13:12–15:31
• Sorority Hazing & Wild Stories: 25:26–27:45
• Internet Bullying & Girl-on-Girl Crime: 29:06–34:29
• Firsts & Worsts Game: 36:28–52:00
• Worst Situationship (Scientologist): 46:32–47:47
• Condom Discourse: 49:36–51:16

Memorable Moments & Quotable Highlights

• On Club Days:
  "I used to be like the biggest like club thot groupie, like Tao groupie." (02:37, Hallie)

• On Corporate America:
  “Working in, like, any sort of STEM field, corporate America job, like, it’s absolutely disgusting how people treat you…” (06:49, Lindsey)

• On Modern Oversharing:
  Hallie: "I went live once... hooked up with this, like, really like... he was hot, but he was bald and like his dick was very mid and underwhelming." (10:49)

• On Toxic Sorority Houses:
  Lindsey: "One girl owned up to shitting in the shower and smearing it all over the walls when she was drunk." (26:54)

• Bad PR Gifts:
  Hallie: "This brand sent me everything they had in their whole, like, inventory... dildos that, like, stick to the wall... just sitting in my kitchen... decor maybe." (41:03–41:49)

• On the Bi Guy ‘Pandemic’:
  "It's a bisexual pandemic. Not to say it's a bad thing, but..." (15:04, Hallie)

• On Being an Influencer:
  Hallie: “I had to get eight selfies a night. ... It’s like sex trafficking almost.” (39:17)

Overall Vibe & Tone

Unfiltered, honest, and hilarious storytelling with a playful, confessional energy. Both Hallie and Lindsey let loose with deeply personal who-the-hell-cares tales, dipping between self-deprecating humor and casually savage social commentary. “Extra Dirty” absolutely nails the no-detail-spared, sleepover yapping tone it promises.

For listeners who missed it, this episode offers an intoxicating peek into the realities (and absurdities) of influencer life, contemporary dating chaos, and hilarious war stories from girlhood to adulthood, sprinkled with candid moments of self-doubt, friendship, and that persistent urge to overshare.