
The newly funemployed and adorable Lindsey Fishman joins the Extra Dirty couch!! Hallie and Lindsey talk about Vegas (and finally myth bust if they pump Oxygyn into the casinos), how 30 is the new 20, and how being 27 feels like the weirdest limbo. Lindsey announces that she is QUITTING her corporate job, shares her addiction to TikTok Live (and the chaos it's caused), AND she reveals her secret relationship for the first time! Hallie and Lindsay talk about the bisexual takeover, whether or not they're in their partygirl eras, and her evil sorority hazing. Love you cookies, enjoyyy!!
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Today, I had two drinks over this weekend, and I woke up hung over, dead. You would assume that I was in, like, rigor mortise state. I couldn't move.
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No, that's just like. I swear we're aging. Not to bring that up. The A word, but I could slam a whole bottle of Malibu when I was 19 years old. Or hypnotic slam it to the face and wake up and conduct surgery. What up, you little freaks? Okay, guys, I'm doing something really stupid right now. We have an emergency debrief situation. Hi, this is Hallie from the streets of New York. Guys, I had every intention of staying in last night.
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Foreign.
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Lindsay Fishman. Welcome to Extra Dirty. Do you know how many people have brought you up to me in the past, like, three weeks?
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No.
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And I'm just like, I need to meet this girl in person.
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I can't wrap my head around it either, because people started following me, like, a month ago.
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Yeah.
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And there's a lot of people who know who I am, and I don't know who they are, and they're talking about me. But not to sound, like, egocentric or arrogant about it.
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No, please do.
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But I'm like, who is talking about me right now? And, like, tell me.
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So Kyle put us in a group chat. Yes, from Nelk.
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So that one I know.
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So you know him?
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I met him.
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You met him just that night?
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Yes.
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And then he was just like, you need to meet this girl. Yeah. And I was like, okay, you're the second person this week that said that. And then Mike Milak.
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Yes. I love him. He is such a nice guy and is, like, always texting me things, like supporting me.
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He probably has a crush on you.
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No. No, he doesn't. No, he does not.
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He's. He's the best. I'VE known him for like seven years.
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Wait, that's such a long time.
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I've been low key, like around for a long time, but not posting for a long time, if that makes any sense.
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Yeah.
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So like I am in New York or have lived in New York since COVID essentially.
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Yeah.
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And I used to be like the biggest like club thought groupie, like Tao groupie. Like you would find me out every night at every Tao venue ever.
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I'm jealous.
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Do you know what TAO is?
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Yeah, I was actually at Tao and I commented to them and accidentally called them tua. Yeah, I was like, oh my God, I'm at TUA tonight. The dumplings are so good. And then they responded back with like firework emojis.
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I was like, dude, they're so good.
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I know, I've gone there. Like I was there in Vegas like three weeks ago and then the one in Chicago too.
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Were we at Vegas at the same time?
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No, no, I was there the weekend before and then the weekend before that.
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So you did a two weekend Vegas.
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Run and then Mike was trying to get me to come the weekend that you were there? Yeah, I was like, I literally like.
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I can't sucks the life out of me. I always compare it to like being in a snow globe. Does it feel like it's not real?
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When I. When you fly in, it literally looks like Barbie world. Like nothing is real. It is so fake. Like the second I go there I'm like, okay, I need to put on like Barbie face and just like act like this. But then also everyone is feral and like doesn't care.
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It's just like random like artifacts. Like almost like Legos.
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Yeah, that's exactly what it looks like. It feels like a fake reality. Like a simulation.
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Like a snow globe.
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And then you walk in. I didn't know. Like I'm stupid. The first time I was in Vegas was three weeks ago. That was the first time I was ever there. And I was like, wait, everything is inside. I was like, what fucking time is it? And it was six in the morning.
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They do that. Do you also know they pump like laced air into the casinos so they like stay up and gamble.
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Oh, because you never know what time.
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It is there because everyone's just always.
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Up and at em and it's like creatures, creatures. Whether it's nine in the morning or like two in the morning or like 10pm like every waking hour of the day. Wait, is it true?
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Something it's saying oxygen to like keep.
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You alive and like so like purified.
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Oxygen it must be. I think it's, like, fancy oxygen.
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Yeah.
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Bougie oxygen.
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I wonder how much that costs.
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Like, fancy oxygen.
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Yeah.
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Or what do they put in it to make it fancy?
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How is it fancy if everyone's smoking cigarettes all the time, though?
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Maybe that's why they have to make it fancy to, like, even it out. Or also just be so polluted.
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Yeah.
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Because you, like, smoke six inside there.
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Yeah.
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Wait, where are you from?
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Cleveland.
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Cleveland.
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Yeah. But I was living in Chicago for two years, and then I just moved here and.
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How old are you?
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How old do I look like?
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I would guess 24, 25.
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Are you? Me?
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Really?
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I'm about to be 27.
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A lot of people 28. So we're, like, similar ages.
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Yeah, a lot of people. Yeah. People think I look really young. Like, when I go back home and I go to the mall, for some reason, it's like, 18 and older. Past, like, certain times. And the mall cops still, like, ID me. No, I wouldn't.
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I'm saying thank you. When, like, people are ID me now because I'm like, they think I might be under 21. I look young, but then I have other people telling me, you look old as fuck.
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I don't think that you look old as fuck. Like, 30 is the new 20.
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I feel like. Yeah, I feel like I'm going to peak when I'm, like, 32 years. Is that a hot take?
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No.
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Like, I feel like that's a thing.
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No. Yeah, for sure. I think that's what everybody is starting to pick up on, too, is like, 30 is the new 20. But once you're like, 27, 28, 29, like, you're old for now, and then it resets.
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I feel old. I also just, like, hated the age of 27. It just sounded weird to me. But, like, when I turned 28, I was like, it sounds hot.
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Yeah.
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You know, I mean, like, I'm 28.
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When you're 27, it's like the in between from, like, still outgrowing college and then becoming an adult. And, like, people don't know how to.
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Perceive you, and you just, like, kind of feel. Yeah, exactly. Am I young or am I, like, old? Yeah, but when I was a senior in college, I felt like I was super washed up, and all the freshmen were like. I was like, I felt super old. But then you go into your first year of being, like, outside of college, and you feel like a freshman all over again. You're like the fresh meat on the market in the real world. I feel like it just goes in, like, these weird phases.
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I agree. I don't. Like, I can never figure out where I am in life despite being a certain age. But I honestly always just feel like.
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I always feel like, too.
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The older I get, the uglier I feel. But other people are telling me that I look better.
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You look great. I mean, you're gorgeous.
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That's so nice of you.
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I just also love being in la also. When did you move to la?
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A month ago.
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So what brought you here?
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My corporate job. Your corporate job? Me on a project in la. I'm putting in my two weeks.
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That's insane.
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I know.
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I never had a corporate job.
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Good, you don't need one. It's actually the most abysmal place to be, and especially as a woman, and I hate to, like, use that card, but working in, like, any sort of STEM field, corporate America job, like, it's absolutely disgusting how people treat you, especially if you're, like, not the ugliest of ugly type of, like, human being, whether it's a guy or a girl. But it just.
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People don't take you seriously.
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No, they don't. And they, like, question your intelligence every single day, despite, like, your performance being amazing and, like, kissing everyone's ass. And I'm like, what else can I do? They told me I need to smile more on meetings. I'm like, why the fuck do you want to see me smile?
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Is it a man telling you to smile more?
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It's a combination of both, actually.
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What's their fucking deal?
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I don't know. They have a stick of their ass. But honestly, it's consulting, so it's all hypotheticals anyway. So when they're like, you need to do this like it's life or death, I'm like, it's all fake.
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What is consulting? Is that a super. I have no idea.
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That's like the question that everybody asks, like, a consultant. I don't know nobody.
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You don't. You don't know?
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No, I. I don't know what I do.
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Like, I would guess it's like, you're a health care consultant.
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Yeah.
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So you consult people on, like, the best health care options?
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No, not at all. Like, fire your nurses.
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Is fire nurses what they want you to do? Yeah. Health care. So fucked in the U.S. i know. It's probably not more than anyone. Yeah, it's. It should be free. Do you know therapy's free in other countries? Because that's mental health.
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Yes, I used to. My dad's side of the family's from Canada. And I used to think about getting my dual citizenship and moving there to Toronto. I actually ran into Nelk boy Kyle many years ago at.
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Where were you?
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This place called Paris, Texas.
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And like the shoe store sexist boot is.
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It's this bougie ass bar and you have to like, know someone to get in. I was like, oh, yeah, I know Jason. They're like, okay, go in. I don't know who the fuck Jason was.
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It's a good name to go with.
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It was good.
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Yeah.
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But I saw them at a table and they were just recording everything. And at the time I was like, I hate the Internet. Like, don't do that.
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Yeah.
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Crazy. And I was blasted out of my mind. I run up to them, I'm like, get off your phones. Like, have fun. They're like, who the fuck are you? And then they left.
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And then you were. They were like, I like this girl or you just met them down the road.
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I met them down the road.
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Okay.
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Which is so crazy.
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Yeah. I forgot that they're from there. I've known Kyle for a while as well.
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Really? Like just through. I mean, like, networking.
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He was in Boston for something years ago, like during COVID Yeah. I think we like hooked up actually.
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Oh.
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Yeah, I'm pretty sure we did. I'm not gonna lie.
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Any comments?
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It was good. I. I was co. I don't really remember anything during COVID I kind of. It's a emotional write off to me.
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That's fair.
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I'm like, oh, didn't happen. It was a whole fever dream. But now we're just like, good friends. Yeah.
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He's everywhere. I think he's in, like, China.
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He's. They travel everywhere and with their, like, little squad. Yeah. I can't imagine being recorded every 24, seven.
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No.
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Like, I don't understand anything about the streaming industry.
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Oh, that's new. That's picking up.
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Yeah.
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And I would rather, I think die than do that.
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But I canceled. I would get canceled.
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Yeah, I think I would.
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Do I just say a lot of like, out of pocket shit.
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Yeah.
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I like, this is going to be crazy. But like, I think I'm pretty, like, almost filtered on here.
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Filtered.
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Filtered. Oh, filtered. Like in a way where it's like I can't say everything. I'm like thinking all the time.
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Yeah.
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Just because if I did that, it might. It might get me in some trouble.
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Yeah. I think I have the problem of even when I'm alone, if there's no camera on me. Like, I love going on TikTok. Live, which is horrible, but I'll just like an era. I just go on there and I'm like ranting. Like, when I found out that I got that email this morning, like, you're about to get fired. I was like, guys, what the fuck am I supposed to do? Do like whatever. But then I just keep talking to the walls. Like, I just keep going when there's nobody there.
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I think that's like, bad. I used to go on Tick Tock live. Like I was addicted to it.
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It's.
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There's something so validating about it. And like, you kind of like build like a little community on there and like people, like, there's like reoccurring people always in the comments being like, oh.
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My God, you're back. And you get the mods too. Yeah.
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And they kick everyone off. But I was getting in a bad habit of like, you know, pre gaming a day or pre gaming anything. And I would go live and just start like slipping up on being really fucking. I went live once on like, this is a couple months ago. I think this was the last time I went live. And I just hooked up with this, like really like. Like he was hot, but he was bald and like his dick was very mid and underwhelming. And I just let. I let. Like there was like 3, 000 people on my live and I was like, this bald ass didn't lay the dick down. Like it was ass. And like, it was so clear who I was talking about because I was like, his family owns this. And like, I was basically just like doxing it, doxing the out of him and then talking about his dick. I felt so bad.
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I have never related to a story more because coincidentally, that was like a unique experience. I really hope that he doesn't watch this. There's this guy I used to hook up with. He has alopecia and like diabetes. And there was like, there was a time where I just like was ghosting him, but he like, wouldn't leave me alone. And he would deliver presents to my apartment and like, I would get my door lady, like, knocking on my door, like, so and so. Brought you 50 protein shakes, like to get you out. I like told him I was like going through it. I just didn't want to talk anymore.
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Were they his protein shakes for his diabetes?
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That's his fruit snacks.
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Oh, fruit snacks. Okay. Sorry, Patch Kids.
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No, but I went on live after that and I was like, I can't get this bald guy.
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Leave him done. Oh, did he see it? No, it's okay. I'm like, I get one drink in me and I'm like talking about all of my endeavors on the Internet. I actually do that kind of. So that's kind of how I started this tick tock thing. As I just started talking about the guys I was getting with and just like telling stories. I'd have like a guy in my bed and be like, on tick tock, there's a guy in my bed.
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Look at his feet.
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Recording. Yeah.
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Or recording live.
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Yeah. It was like the people I wanted to tell first was like the people that followed me.
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Yeah.
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I wouldn't be like, hey, like my best friends, hey, hooked up with this guy last night. I'd be telling the Internet my friends.
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Would start going to TikTok live to get updates on my life because I would just go on there. They would be like, oh, how was that date? Oh, she's on live talking about it.
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But are you in a relationship right now? You are?
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Yeah.
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What's that face?
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I haven't really talked about it, but like, some people know to describe him. He is, you're welcome, by the way. Six five, absolutely jacked, super athletic, biggest dick ever, and absolutely hilarious. And he's not ginger.
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And he's not ginger. Sorry.
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I'm sorry. Sometimes people feel like that's a derogatory term.
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I don't think it's a derogatory term.
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It's not. Okay.
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Where'd you meet this guy?
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He sent me a dm.
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He sent you a dm? That's like honestly, the modern day love story.
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It was interesting because I only had like 20,000 followers. And he goes, new favorite. TikToker unlocked.
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And I was like, me, how long you been dating?
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We've been seeing each other for like six months, but I think we've only been dating for like four.
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And does he live in la?
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Yeah. Okay, so that was another reason.
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Okay.
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Not like a real reason, but like a motivator. No.
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Yeah.
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To move here.
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I feel that.
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Are you seeing anyone?
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Me? I'm seeing like everyone. It feels like I'm like a really bad dater. Like, I don't know, I just. Maybe I'm a little closed off emotionally, I think. Also just I feel like I'm traveling a lot and these are all. These sound like excuses. I just haven't met the right guy. I tend to go after like really red flag type of people or people that are like, in this industry. Oh, I don't think I want to date anyone.
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Camera forward, like, so where does that leave you?
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I Don't know. Or any gay men. I feel like everyone's gay.
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I agree with that full heartedly. There's like also little sucking dick. Yes, there is actually. I don't know if I should say this, but there I just found out that this really popular like family from my hometown, they were always assholes to me growing up. They have been secretly sleeping around with like their best guy, like friend group and they're all secretly like bisexual. And I was like, wait, why don't you.
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No, it's a bisexual like, pandemic. Not to say it's a bad thing, but.
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No, I think it's a lot of.
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Bi men, like, and I think everyone's always been on the spectrum. I just think it's. We're in an era where people are just like, more open about it and like more confident speaking about it. So I don't think anything's really changed. But it's just more like people are comfortable. More comfortable in their own skin maybe.
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Yeah. I feel like they're more comfortable doing it, but they're. If you're a guy, sometimes you're less comfortable talking about it and it's like.
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Why don't you just say it?
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Like, I want to like cheer you on.
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Yeah, like, that's so cool.
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Like I. I know that you guys bullied me, but like, I want to cheer you on and be like, suck a dick. Or like three or four or five. Like that's.
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Relax. Suck a dick. And I just have like so many, like, I love gay men.
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Me too.
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Like, that's all I surround myself with.
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But I feel like they don't like me, which makes me so sad. I've been trying to like integrate myself with like. Like having like more gay friends, but I feel like they gay bestie. I want one.
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You can share mine, please. He'll be here soon.
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Really? You know, Gren, I. I follow him.
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He's.
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But I don't want to be like a freak about it.
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No jump on him. No. He's like like the best person ever.
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Yeah. Seems really sweet.
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He's really sweet.
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I love his videos.
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He's the best. He's so me. But like unintentionally, like he just. Everything that comes out of his mouth. I'm like very sad for like sat. Not like sad like I'm listening. Like I'm listening to you.
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That's how my best friend Maya is. She is like in another life, she would be like my gay best friend if she was a guy. But unfortunately she is like stuck in this, she's like a farm girl. She's from the middle of nowhere Indiana, but she acts like she's kind of rogue, but in like a tractor way, but also like a Kim Kardashian way.
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Like kind of like simple life.
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Yes. But also like borderline very high maintenance. It's so confusing. She'll like get her feet wet and like mud and like pig, but then she'll be like, I need to go have a $15,000, like spa day. I'm like, so it's all about balance. She's like Hannah Montana. Yeah.
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She's literally like Hannah Montana.
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Yeah.
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I like always pitch this to great. And I'm like, we should do like a simple life. Little thing of me and you being on the farm and just like, absolutely milk cows and like, you know, like pick up pig and like go dirt. Like, I don't know all the things.
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Tractor. Like, if you do it. Let me come with you.
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Come.
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Because I have a trio. I think it would be so fun. I went on Maya's farm one time and they had these tractors that were 60ft tall. You had to like climb a ladder to get to the top. She let me drive it around a little bit. I like played in the mud and I was like, wait, this is fun. Like, oh, yeah, but you definitely need.
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I used to love rock climbing. That's so random. But I used to love that kind of shit.
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Do you remember when Dick's Sporting Goods would have the rock wall?
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Yes.
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That was my favorite thing. I would beg to go to Dick's. Nowhere else.
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We should go to Dick's and like, just.
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Sorry.
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We just like. I used to love rock climbing. It was so random, but now I just have the nails. I don't know. I don't think it would work. Remember that doctor's appointment you were supposed to make a while ago? That one you meant to book but you got sidetracked and completely forgot about it until now? Why not book it today? ZocDoc makes it easy to find the right doctor right now and it's all online. Zocdoc is a free app and website where you can search and compare high quality in network doctors and click to instantly book an appointment with Zocdoc. You can book in network appointments with more than 100,000 doctors across every specialty from mental health to dental health, primary care to urgent care and more. I use Zocdoc to book a last minute dermatologist appointment and I was honestly surprised by how fast, fast and easy it was to find someone in my area who took my insurance. The whole process from browsing to booking took less than 10 minutes and I even got a same week appointment. Stop putting off those doctor's appointments and go to ZocDoc.com/extradirty to find an instantly book a top rated doctor today. That's Z O c d o c.com extra dirty okay, can we just take a moment to appreciate fall? Because nothing beats the smell of cinnamon, nutmeg or pumpkin spice wafting through the house. Or that first cozy sip of apple cider. Or maybe even a pumpkin spice latte. When the weather finally cools down a bit, let Instacart help to deliver what you need so you don't have to add another errand to your day. Order fresh groceries and household essentials online or through the app and they can arrive at your door in as fast as 30 minutes. With Instacart accurate orders, timely service and experienced shoppers make quality and convenience possible. I've been leaning on Instacart a lot this fall and honestly, it's been a game changer. The weather's getting cooler, I'm in full cozy mode. You know, candles lit, blankets out, and I have no interest in running errands in the rain. And when it comes to quality, I've never been disappointed. My orders have always been accurate on time, and the service from Instacart's experienced shoppers has been exceptional. They really treat my groceries like their own. Download the Instacart app and use code EXTRADTY20 to get $20 off your first order of $80 or more. That's code EXTRADTY20 to Get $20 off your first order of 80 dollars or more. Offer valid for a limited time, excludes restaurants. Additional terms apply.
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Did you ever go to summer camp?
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Yeah, I went to Camp All Star in Maine. It was like an all school camp.
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You're a star.
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Like all star. Like a rocks, Like Camp All Stars. It was like a sports camp, but I was like a non athletic person. Like I'm like a deer and ice. I have no coordination, mainly because of my eyes.
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I. I feel that way.
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Did you play sport?
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I tried.
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What sports? I did karate. You look like you play lacrosse. There was this one in the best way possible.
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There was this time where I had one of my eye surgeries during lacrosse season and I was wearing like an eye patch for like a month. But they were like, we really need Lindsay to play, so I'm like running around.
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You were really good.
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No, they just had like 10 people. My high school had 60 kids in my grade.
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Okay, so like, wait, same.
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Yeah, relatively. Like, all of it was really small.
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Was it a coed school, all girls?
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It's a public school. Like, treated like a private school.
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A public school that had 60 kids in their graduating class. Yeah. So did you grow up in like, kind of like a small town?
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Yeah. I feel like.
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Let's go back. Let's go back to your childhood.
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Oof.
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Are you sibling? Do you have siblings?
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Yeah, I have a little sister. Her name's Rachel. She's like 18.
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Okay, nice.
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Like she is, but 18. East side of Cleveland is set up where all of the actual cities are really small. So everyone at every school, like, kind of knows each other. So it's like our rival schools. I went to Beechwood, but our rival school is called like, Orange. Everyone at beach would knew everyone at Orange and then like Sugar and Falls, Shaker Heights, like, it was all the same. It should have all just been one school, but it wasn't.
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Okay, I see. And then where'd you go to college?
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Purdue.
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Purdue.
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Middle of nowhere.
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What was your major?
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I was a neuroscience and psychology major.
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Like, what? You're smart. My roommate was a neuroscience major.
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Really?
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Yeah.
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Did she. She like it?
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Yeah, she was always busy. She still like, partied as much as me? Yeah, but she would have to wake up and go to all these fucking labs and I was like, couldn't be me. I was a classics major.
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What is classics?
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I like, did my thesis on like, the emotional manipulation of Hellenistic architecture during the Hellenistic era.
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What is the hell? I don't know.
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But I got a. A.
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Where did you.
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I played it. I went to like this small liberal arts school in upstate New York.
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What is it like, Harvard. I'm kidding.
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It was technically. It's like, what. What are they called? A baby Ivy. Oh, is that a thing?
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Yeah, I think so.
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But my dad went there. I didn't get on my own merit.
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So there's nothing like a legacy.
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Yeah, the little Ivies. Yes. And I'm an influencer podcaster, so I want a waste of money. That was for me.
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I love that.
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What were you like in college? Did you like to go out?
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My freshman year, I like to go out. I had a horrible party phase for sure, but then my still in there. I. I just got out of mine. I think I was only in one for like, it goes in phases. And I was in one for like two months. But now I'm back to being like, pretty normal. But now that I'm quitting my job, I Think I might go out.
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Yeah, I think you should reenter. I might like going out way too much here.
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Did you go out here or did you just like, drink casually?
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I mean, what's the difference really? Because I will go out for dinner and it's just not never casual. Especially Greyden. Like, we'll have three drinks and then we'll like do like a little nightcap and have three glasses of wine. You blacked out, essentially. And then we'll like wake up and be like, we just had dinner. Like, why did we have to act like that?
B
But I feel like that's a good excuse. It's like I have no idea why I'm so up. I just had dinner last night and like maybe a drink or like two or three or five.
A
But yeah, and then I do the same thing with my family members. And you think that's like an emotional write off because you're like, oh, if I'm getting like drinks in my family, like, I'm spending time with my family.
B
So like I'm going not actually drinking.
A
It's not real drinking, but they love to get up.
B
I'm jealous. My family doesn't. My dad's sober.
A
Oh, really?
B
He had an era. Sorry.
A
Yeah, my sister's sober.
B
I. Sometimes I think about doing it. I had two drinks over this weekend and I woke up hungover, dead. Like corpse. Like you would assume that I was in like rigor mortis state. I couldn't move.
A
No, that's just like, I swear we're aging and hangovers. Not to bring that up the A word, but I could slam a whole bottle of Malibu when I was 19 years old. Or hypnotic Spedka Raspberry bubblegum. Whatever. The. Slam it to the face and wake up and conduct surgery with a. A hand that didn't shake.
B
But when did? Like, why does this happen? Like, I don't know.
A
My liver, Sick of my.
B
Oh, I get so much A. You know, A is.
A
No, it's a. I call it a.
B
It's like I wake up and I have so much a. It's anxiety. Like, I'm having an A day.
A
Zai.
B
I'm Sigh.
A
Zai.
B
That's what you call it?
A
Yeah. Xi.
B
Oh, that sounds like a Soundcloud rapper name. Yeah.
A
Or like a sorority. Or like a fraternity.
B
I saw that you were just at a sorority.
A
I was.
B
Was it fun to go back? Were you in one in college?
A
No, I was blacklisted, like the first week of college. I also didn't know that you had to go to class I thought it was like, the movies where, like, you know, you watch, like, House Bunny and, you know that movie. No. What's it called? House Bunny.
B
I don't know anything.
A
So, yeah, House Bunny. And they're kind of just like, all, like, getting up and drinking and there's like, whatever. Like, they never showed. Going to class in the movies. So I thought, like, it was kind of like, oh, you could just go party and, like, lightly show up to class. Yeah. And I only took three classes, so I got a C minus, an F and a d. So my GPA was below a 1, I think.
B
How did you graduate?
A
I don't know.
B
Grace of God.
A
By the grace of God. I had to, like, take a lot of, like, extra classes to get me GPA up and then. So, yeah, I couldn't rush for that reason. And then also, like, the first week orientation week, or, like, just like, the first week of school, I, like, made out with one of the seniors, like, or boyfriends. And I didn't know it was his fault. Like, I didn't know anyone there.
B
That happened to me.
A
And they blacklisted me.
B
I never got.
A
And wanna.
B
I dropped before they could kick me out.
A
I can't picture you getting hazed either.
B
I did actually, like, the older girls in my sorority were cool, though, and they got us on probation. Okay. And then the girls after, like, my pledge class were absolute narcs. And I hate all of you and whoever on the floor. I'm still looking for you.
A
She who on your floor?
B
I've been investigating this for the past, like, seven years. Somebody on the floor? I stumbled upon it. I sent it in the group chat. I said, who the on the floor? One girl owned up to shitting in the shower and smearing it all over the walls when she was drunk. But nobody owned up at Purdue. Yes.
A
I'm screaming.
B
I. I know. It was like. I think the house that I was in was, like, the only one that was a little bit off the rails. But it was cool and it was fun.
A
I, like, all my friends are part of sorority, and I, like, kind of had a lot of fomo. So, like, they all got into a sorority and I was like, fuck. So I felt, like, really emo. So I. That was a tough year. But in hindsight, I'm so glad I didn't do it, because if someone tried to, like, haze me, I just don't think I would subscribe.
B
I subscribed.
A
I was like, okay. Like, these girls, like, weren't cool old girls. Looking back, I was like, you Guys are a bunch of losers.
B
Yeah.
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B
Ever since switching to T Mobile, something weird has been happening. I get to cut lines.
A
Oh, right this way.
B
Who, me? I can stream shows at 30,000ft and I was able to buy reserve tickets for my favorite band.
A
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B
Yeah.
A
Because I feel like you're in that like when I was like in the beginning of like when you just start posting and all these different things. I feel like Reddit was one of my bigger issues, but it's hard not to get in these holes.
B
So they're not talking about me necessarily on Reddit like they are, but I'm under other people's threads.
A
Like your boyfriend?
B
Yes, like my boyfriend. And there's a scroll. I don't. You know what, never mind.
A
But you, but you, you know who you are.
B
You're insane.
A
But people are really crazy.
B
Yeah, they are really online. But it's weird because I'll go through something that I love to do is like example. I'll go to your profile and I'll look at like who you follow and I'll see like who doesn't who I don't follow back that you follow. And I'm like, oh my God, like these people know who I am. Like, that's so cool. Like there's mutuals here, whatever. But then I'm like, okay, there's a six year old dad with an entire family that has created this perception of me online and thinks that I'm like his fourth daughter and it's just like all fake in his head. People are insane.
A
And it's like a lot of like moms being insulting. And I'm like, you have kids. Like, why are you bullying me online?
B
I've only gotten one comment from a mom and she told me that I needed to check out the mole on my chest.
A
Oh, I've gotten.
B
Because she told me it's cancer, and I freaked the fuck out. I went to the doctor the same day. They're like, you're literally fine.
A
Yeah.
B
Like, don't.
A
I mean, I bent hands, so, like, I definitely could have something.
B
It was like, this one right here. Is it this one? Wait, I. That's what they were talking about on me.
A
We have matching walls, too. And matching bad eyes. Oh. So I knew this would happen. But what was I saying? My favorite thing to do is going, if I see a hate video about me, I'll go in the comments and see everyone that engaged in the comment section, click on them, and if they follow me, I'll just block all of them.
B
Oh, I'll. I'll comment back to them. I'll be like, shut the up. I, like, unfollow me. Like, you're so stupid.
A
Like, why do you follow me? Just to hate me. But probably.
B
Yeah.
A
Or if I see a hate video about someone I know or someone really close with, and I'll go through all the comments of people, like, on them, I'll block them, too.
B
I just saw this. There was an insane woman, and she thought that she was, like, an E. News type person. Yeah. On Tick Tock. And she.
A
Was she one of those, like, E. Rundown people?
B
No, she wasn't. She was just this random woman that lived in, like, Clearwater, Florida. You are so strange. And she was talking about, like, I don't know if I should say this one, but it was like, Grace o' Malley and, like, just being so horrible. So I went on a rant in the comments. I was like, what the is wrong with you? Why are you saying this?
A
Like, you defended Grace?
B
Yeah.
A
So you're a real one for that.
B
And then she was. There was another comment in her section that was like, I can't control the comments, but she deleted mine and then blocked me. So I went on my spam, commented again, called her up loser. More on idiot. And then she responded to all of that with, like, a video, and then blocked me on everything. And I was like, you're disgusting and you're sweet.
A
That's so sweet that you're defending Grace. People are so ruthless online.
B
I know.
A
They've gone way too comfortable. Bullying?
B
Yeah. Why? For what?
A
Because they usually broke, fat, and ugly.
B
Also, you, like, never know what they look like behind the screen, but I don't anticipate them to look like, who's, like, a Famous person. That's really pretty. Dua lapia.
A
Dua. I'm screaming dua lipa. Dua la pia. Shout out dua lipia. Yeah, I kind of like dua lipia.
B
Yeah. Wait, how do you say it?
A
Dua lipa.
B
Like they're, they definitely don't look like dua lipa.
A
Hot people don't troll.
B
No. Normal people don't troll.
A
Yeah, normal hot people. But you're never, you're never gonna see like a hot ass trolling another girl.
B
No. Unless they're like insane. It's so.
A
That's true. It's just like I've said before, the girl and girl crime rate is insane right now. It's bad, it's gone up there.
B
It's not nice and I don't get where it comes from. It's like, why can't you just support.
A
Do you know what form spring is used? It's bad, it's bad.
B
I used to get relentlessly bullied on like those types of platforms, like but then I stopped reading it cuz I was like, this is bad for me. So they started telling me to kill myself on my Facebook wall. And I was like, my dad reads this.
A
Do you remember like, like my status for a truth is or like like my status for a rate?
B
Yes.
A
So like these guys from like the like neighboring schools in eighth grade would be like like my sauce for a rate. And I just remember seeing my whole fee being like commenting on these like girls like walls being like six on a good day. This is insane.
B
There was a time where somebody, it was like a group of guys that went to the all boys school and I was like so like I was obsessed with them. I was like, oh, they're all so hot. Like oh. At the boys school I liked all of their like my status for rate. A slew of Facebook posts came in and it was all ones and then I go like my status for a rate and they liked it back. And I said negative a thousand I thought on all of their walls. And I thought that I was the coolest person.
A
I would go on form spring being like, does X, Y and Z like me? Or does like what do we think about Halle Bachelder? And I'd be on your own like wall. Yeah, I just wanted to see like because it was all anonymous.
B
People would say oh yeah, I forgot about that. But then couldn't you answer it like the question?
A
Yeah.
B
So did you say oh I love myself? No.
A
Wait, was it form spring where people like would be like asking about themselves and then other people would comment in a thread or am I thinking about something else? Did you have formspring?
B
It was. I feel like Formspring is the more ancient version of like Ask fm.
A
Oh, I think on the Ask fm.
B
Yeah.
A
Ask FM was fucking nuts.
B
That's the one that I started to ignore because it was like really, really bad. People would say like she's sending hate to herself and I'm like, I'm crying in the corner. No, I'm not like, you're insane.
A
Did you go to school dances?
B
I went to a bar mitzvahs.
A
I've never been to one. Bob. That's fine.
B
I've been to like 100.
A
Okay, so you grew up in a Jewish like town? Well, I went to all girls Catholic so I like didn't know any Jews. Yeah, but they look like bangers.
B
They were so fun. But I would get made fun of. Like people would be. They would be humping each other the whole time and then people would like fake like grind on me.
A
It's okay. I had the same kind of similar middle school experience but in the eighth grade hit and I like got skinny and grew my hair out.
B
That's when I lost my glasses.
A
Really? I had glasses too because I was cross eyes. Like I was seeing like I was insane.
B
So when I had my first surgery, I think too.
A
So how many eye surgeries have you had and what kind of eye surgeries?
B
Like five on both of. I've had like wow, five in total. I think two of them were on both eyes and then three was just like on this one eye. But what they do is they like peel up part of your eye.
A
I just got Lasik so.
B
And then they cut the muscle to like tug it this way.
A
So you got the osto something surgery to start with the. No, I. Cuz I looked into it cuz like I think like this is going to get worse and I'm like an adult, a real adult.
B
I like how you can do. I used to do that so easily and I can't do it anymore. Like wait, can I?
A
No, you can do it.
B
Oh, okay. So maybe I need another time. No.
A
Yeah, but like when I drink, my eyes roam. So I could be looking at you but like also having a full conversation with Marshall. My eye will be like.
B
I think for me. No, let me think. When I'm really tired, it goes in. But when I'm drunk like now I can get it to like go like outwards.
A
I don't want it to get stuck.
B
I think mine is Going in that direction.
A
They look really straight. Really?
B
You sound like my mom.
A
They do. I'm not even saying that. I wouldn't want someone telling me my eyes look straight because, like, my. I like my friend. I'll ask my friends, and I'll make. Are they going any different. Different directions yet? And they're like, time to go home.
B
I haven't seen you drink yet, so I don't know.
A
We'll go out together. Okay. Let's do this segment. It's fun. I think you're gonna like this. It's called Firsts and Worsts.
B
Okay?
A
So either you pick your first time or your worst time.
B
Okay?
A
So I'm gonna give you a prompt, and then just. You can pick one.
B
Okay. We might have to do a trial. Okay. I'm, like, not good with instructions.
A
For example, the first or worst time you got drunk. So you can either tell me the first time you got drunk or the worst time you got drunk.
B
They're the same.
A
Oh. I'd even think that that's probably a lot of, like, sex. Probably is, like, losing your virginity could be a lot of people's worst, too.
B
I'm trying to think. I'll go with, like, another one that might be worst, but I don't know. Oh, my God, this is so hard. I don't remember anything. That's probably why it was, like, the worst.
A
No, I don't remember either.
B
Let me think. Oh, when I was drugged at this bar. Oh, Chicago. Declan's.
A
You Declan's.
B
It is the worst. Everyone goes there in Old Town, but it's the worst. I, like, gave somebody my cup for, like, two seconds, and then I was, like, taking a picture. And then I, like, chugged this much left in my beer, and I was, like, walking home. I had, like, one beer that night. As I'm walking home, I'm, like, crawling and, like, wait, when did I get on the ground? And then I'm going off.
A
Wall street is like, yeah, yeah, yeah.
B
It was crazy because, like, five minutes before I started crawling home, I, like, walked a girl that I didn't know to her car. I was like, yeah, I'm responsible if she saw me five minutes later.
A
She was like, the.
B
I threw up, like, all over the elevators, and I was just like, a corpse. That was probably the worst.
A
I got drugged once, too, and that was probably one of my worst. I peed my twin bed, went to my sister's twin bed, and threw up in that twin bed. My mom was pissed. She had to do all the laundry. But we Got all. Got drugged at this one bar in Nantucket.
B
That's horrible.
A
And I don't remember a thing. I was, like, in the bushes.
B
How old were you?
A
19. 20. Yeah, it was college. Okay.
B
Okay.
A
First or worst influencer you've ever met? Actually, that's not the question. But I like the question I asked better. You can say it or you cannot say it.
B
Can you, like, bleep it? I want to tell you.
A
Yeah, you can tell me. We can take it out. Let's bleep his name. But tell me why.
B
He's on drugs.
A
He's on drugs, but his whole thing.
B
Is about being sober. But he is, like, a freak.
A
He can suck a dick, and I'm sure he already does. Keep that in. What's the first and worst influencer event? That was an actual, real question that you've ever been to.
B
I went to, like, a CoverGirl event. It was like a WNBA game. I was just really confused.
A
Like, no interesting collab there. First or worst?
B
First and worst. Yeah, they're all the same. Like, very new here.
A
Like, I kind of love it.
B
I haven't been invited to anything except for, I mean, a couple of things. But, like, that was first and worst.
A
I love it. CoverGirl. I feel like I went to something with them and I was like, no shade to CoverGirl, but no shade.
B
It was just weird.
A
It's kind of an interesting collab.
B
Yeah.
A
First or worst job you've ever had?
B
Current worst.
A
Worst.
B
Yeah. Don't work in consulting.
A
It's the worst job I've ever had was when I was a Tito's Rap, Tito's Wrap. I would, like, go to, like, liquor stores, and they'd pay me 30 bucks an hour to stand behind, like, a little cart with, like, little mixers of, like, orange juice and, like, pineapple juice. And I would have to take, like, try to get people to buy Tito's, and I would take selfies with grown men, and I had to get eight selfies a night.
B
Did you ever have, like.
A
That's, like, sex trafficking almost? Like, what's. What is that?
B
It's always going to be, like, an old drunk guy, too. Yeah.
A
I want to take a picture with you. I was like, of course.
B
It sounds like. Did you ever have that one kid in your hometown that, like, got into sales early, but he was just selling, like, kitchen knives to, like, everyone's mom? Yeah, it sounds like that.
A
It was exactly that. I, like, really, like, have a real job ever besides, like, hostessing. Is that a real job? That's, like, not an adult job.
B
I liked being a bartender slash, like, waitress. That was so funny.
A
I was a host. I was eating 12 bucks an hour, and I would have to, like, deal with people. And I was doing it while I was starting social media. So I'd be, like, up at the host stand with, like, a T shirt and, like, really skinny white jeans on at the age of 26, and people would come up to me, like, recording me, and I was like, I need to get out of this right now. This is a horrible look.
B
I feel like that's my trajectory right now. No, that's where I'm about to be.
A
No, it's not where you're about to be. I'm manifesting a big career and just yapping online. Everyone, please help me. First or worst PR package you ever got. Do you get pr?
B
Some. Yeah. Like, it's bad, but most of it is just all. It, like, stays in boxes. Yeah. Because I'm lazy and I don't want to take it to the bins.
A
No.
B
So it just piles up. So I don't really know if there's, like, any worse. First one was probably like.
A
I have one for this, actually. Not the worst. It could be the best PR I've ever gotten, but it's still sitting there. The sex toy brand. Because obviously I talk about sex. I have a sex podcast. Basically, this brand sent me everything they had in their whole, like, inventory. So I have, like, a bunch of dildos that, like, stick to the wall. Like, I have everything. Handcuffs, bondage, butt plugs, everything you could possibly think of. And it's all just sitting in my kitchen still, because I don't know what to do with it.
B
Give it to me.
A
Do you want it? I'll send you it.
B
Yes.
A
But, like, who uses a dildo that, like, gets mounted? A mounted dildo?
B
I mean, it's decor.
A
It is decor. Maybe I'll put it in my.
B
Like, if you don't use it. Yeah.
A
A fruit ball. Just a little amount of dildo.
B
I think that would be good for you.
A
First or worst hangover?
B
Oh, I've had a couple bad ones.
A
Did you have any bad ones in Vegas?
B
Yeah.
A
Coming home from Vegas is. Needs to be studied.
B
I had to go, actually. The hangover started while I was still drunk, flying home, and I was just going apeshit in the airport. Like, my friend Olivia was like, you need to stop, I guess.
A
Hate airports. In the Vegas airport especially has it out for me.
B
You can smoke in there, though.
A
What?
B
Yeah, light green American spirits, but they'll always Be my favorite, like, from high school. But I also like rolling your own and putting those, like, filters in it that you can like, snap. Like the Chinese cigarette.
A
I'm done. That's like bougie. I'm not that chic. It's fun, but I just have the Vogues. My friend's like, Russian and she gets them from, like, Russia, I guess. But they're like really skinny cigs. And they're long, but they burn really quickly.
B
Oh.
A
Which I don't love. But they're not as strong like, you don't like, fall over.
B
Yeah, that's like. It's like the same as was a Greek cigarette. And that's what my big and my sorority. She would come back from Greece and just be like a different person. But it was actually like her real personality because she was Greek and she would just be rolling her own cigs. Long, as skinny as. All throughout the day. Yeah, and those were good. Those are really.
A
No, they're really good. And they're just like, quick, easy, like. And like, some sigs just knock me on my ass.
B
My friend Olivia did throw up from smoking a Sig one time, but I've never.
A
You just in. I feel like you would.
B
Yeah.
A
First or worst viral tick tock moment.
B
There was this one video that I made. It was like, so embarrassing when there was that trend going around. I was like, where's your head? I can't sing.
A
Oh, yeah, where's your head?
B
It was that. I deleted it. It had like a million likes, but it's gone.
A
But, like, why was it bad?
B
It was embarrassing. It was when, like, nobody followed me. I was like, nobody's gonna see this then. One million people.
A
It's always those videos that go nuts.
B
Yeah.
A
Have you been canceled yet? Have you been canceled yet?
B
I just got here, like, two days ago.
A
What'd you do?
B
No, no, I didn't get canceled. I just got here, though. So I don't think it's, like, possible. Did you? Okay.
A
I got canceled really early on, but, like, for something I didn't even do.
B
What?
A
Yeah, it was just a story that, like, snowballed and got a hand. But yeah, it was just like this girl said I, like, kicked her, never kicked her. But, like, I didn't want to, like, go on defend myself because it was just like a show.
B
If it's not true, you don't need to defend yourself. But if somebody does something and you do have to put them in headlock, I feel like it's that one you can talk about.
A
I mean, that one I talked about. Because I did that.
B
Yeah.
A
I've never not owned up to things I did and didn't do. But this one I actually didn't do. But like, I was getting ripped to shreds on Internet that nobody knows anything.
B
Whatever.
A
A bunch of idiots.
B
Ever since switching to T Mobile, something weird has been happening. I get to cut lines.
A
Oh, right. Right this way.
B
Who, me? I can stream shows at 30,000ft and I was able to buy reserve tickets for my favorite band.
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B
Jordan Poole sent me some weird dms.
A
Who?
B
He's like this NBA player, I think. I don't know, but he like. It was before I linked my Instagram and my tick tock. He found my spam account and then started DMing my spam and I was like, how the did you find me?
A
Was he like China? Yeah, that's kind of fun.
B
I ignored most of it, but I was like. I was like excited to see a check mark. I've never seen one before. I was like, hi.
A
That was before the days you could buy them.
B
Oh, no, this was like a few months ago.
A
Oh, yeah. Okay, well, he's still like a. He probably has a real check because he's on what team, girl?
B
I don't know. I only know Lebron James and Steph Curry.
A
First or worst situationship?
B
Worst situationship.
A
Yeah.
B
Oh, the Scientology. He's gonna get so mad. The Scientologist.
A
How did you end up fucking a Scientologist?
B
Hariah. And then we were traveling back and forth to see each other, and then at dinner one night, he starts, like, sweating, like, what are those called? Like, bullets.
A
Like, beads all over his face.
B
He's like, I really need to tell you something. I'm like, what? He goes, eventually I get it out of him. He's like, I'm a Scientologist as well.
A
You mean that they like science more than others?
B
No, no. They believe in, like, a lizard God.
A
And, like, a lizard God.
B
They don't believe in therapy. They believe confessing to, like, some pedophile in, like, the Church of Scientology.
A
Is that here where they're, like, outside, and then, like, someone will try to record and they, like, run inside? Yeah, it's a really sketch.
B
But he was, like, normal, like, him and most of his family members are, like, normal, but they're in a cult.
A
Did you break up with him after that?
B
Yes.
A
You were like.
B
Yeah, but I felt bad, like, breaking up with somebody over their beliefs. Beliefs.
A
But I mean, aligned with yours, though.
B
It's a cult.
A
Yeah. And they have some, like, sauce that you just probably don't want your name to be involved.
B
But now they're probably all going to come after me because they will do that.
A
What did they do? Maybe we'll cut it out then. But, like, I don't want come after me.
B
It's fine.
A
Oh, are they scary. Do you know anything about Scientology?
B
Yeah, there's, like, videos coming out, like, this past week about how this man was in there and, like, praying for somebody to get him out because he was trapped.
A
They don't let you out?
B
No. If you're, like, bottom tier, they hold you hostage and they, like, rip away all of your, like, financial structure, you have to believe in, like, Scientology forever. You work, like, 100 hours a week. Like, you. You aren't a human anymore, but if you're, like, upper class, you're like Tom Cruise.
A
So, like, what is Tom Cruise? A Scientologist. Yeah.
B
And Elizabeth Moss, if you know who she is, she's in, like, the Handmaid's Tale.
A
But you know who else is? She was on Real Roni. Do you watch reality tv?
B
Not really. Real Housewives of Salt Lake City.
A
So good.
B
That one's really good.
A
Because they're all crazy. No, they're amazing. Okay, first or worst X encounter in.
B
Public I haven't seen.
A
How many ex boyfriends do you have?
B
Like, four. Like, five.
A
Really? Damn, girl, you're. I only have two. Yeah, they hate me.
B
When was the last time that you dated somebody?
A
I always have these, like, really? Like, I always, like, want to date them, but they don't want to date me, so I'm always in situationships, so. Yeah.
B
But I was in an era like that, and it hurts so bad.
A
It hurts. Situation shifts just hurt terribly. But I haven't had a boyfriend since, like, college. Like, a real one. But, like, I. I'm also, like, kind of a commitment phobe.
B
Yeah, I had that, too. I was in, like, a serious relationship in college, and then I had, like, two fake boyfriends.
A
Yeah.
B
After that. And now, like, the relationship I'm in is serious, but I was doing, like, situationships in between these two, and it was always with people I really liked, and they absolutely hated my guts.
A
Yeah, I. I had a big drought over the summer, and then I'm, like, re entered a hoe era right now. The last two guys I've, like, in the past month have suggested using condoms. And I'm, like, kind of being offended by the condom epidemic. I don't know how I feel about it. I don't. I'm allergic.
B
Yeah. I don't like them. I'm not.
A
Who likes them?
B
Sorry.
A
I don't need a rubber ducky in me.
B
They smell bad.
A
You don't smell disgusting. They give me yeast infections.
B
That too. Condoms have the same smell as, like, another person's sneeze. And I feel like the smell of a sneeze is so disgusting.
A
I'm never gonna get over that.
B
Do you? You know what I'm talking about, though? They're the same thing. And it's like, why would I ever want to smell a sneeze when I'm somebody?
A
But, like, it kind of, like, throws me off. Like, it kill one, it kills the mood. One, it kills the mood. Okay, so, like, they're looking for a condom. It's also like, okay, one, the mood's killed. Two, I don't wanna have your weird offspring baby. Like, I have a stronger IUD than, like, Zeus. Like, we're not. Pregnancy's not on. I don't want to have a child with you. Or, like, three. Are you calling me a. And are you trying to, like, protect yourself from STDs? I might have.
B
Do you ever ask them, like, why are you doing this? What are you so afraid of?
A
Yes.
B
What have they said?
A
This happened to me, like, a couple weeks ago, and I was like, look at you looking for a condom. And, like, how it's ruining the mood. And also, like, why do you need one?
B
What he say?
A
He just, like, thought it was practicing responsible sex and boundaries with him. And I was like, do you tell.
B
Him to grow Up.
A
I got it. I got the ick. I haven't talked to him since. I just don't like that vibe.
B
Yeah, I wouldn't either. It's too.
A
Careful. Why do you have a condom handy? You're a true.
B
Yeah, true. That's a really good point.
A
A lot of questions that come up with condoms.
B
Maybe. Maybe he had something.
A
Maybe he had something.
B
You should have drilled him.
A
Yeah. I feel like it would be a perfect gaslighting situation.
B
Yeah.
A
But no. He was such a sweet boy. I doubt it was him. It was definitely me. I don't know. First or worst celebrity crush.
B
My celebrity. I don't know. Celebrities is the thing. So my celebrity crush is a girl, but I'm not.
A
Bye.
B
Or bi. But it's Jennifer Lawrence.
A
I love her. I have girl crushes, too.
B
Yeah.
A
Bella Deed. Love.
B
I'm not super into her. Jennifer Lawrence is like the. I love.
A
She is Jennifer. Girls like, she.
B
What?
A
She looks like the girl next door kind of vibe.
B
She does.
A
Natalie Portman.
B
I like her. I like Florence Pugh. I think she's gorgeous.
A
She's pretty.
B
And then there's this girl named. Did you ever watch Killing Eve?
A
Killing Eve.
B
There's a girl. Her name is Jody Comer. I think that she is, like, also so gorgeous. But then, like, Theo James, He's a guy.
A
So hot.
B
And then that one guy from the Hunger Games. Gail. What's his name in real life?
A
The short one.
B
No hard note. Yeah. He is so cute. I like him a lot.
A
He's cute. I'm trying to think of mine. Theo James is a really good one.
B
Yeah.
A
He looks like he smells good.
B
He's like. Yeah, yeah. He's like, top tier.
A
He is top tier.
B
I feel like he would wear, like, Tom Ford. Yeah.
A
I think he actually was in, like, a ad for.
B
Oh.
A
So I'm like. That's what I associate him with. But, yeah, he was, like, really good at White Lotus.
B
I didn't watch that. I didn't get it. It made no sense.
A
You have to watch it. It's pretty good.
B
I tried.
A
You tried to watch what?
B
Season one and two. There's no plot.
A
It's kind of confusing.
B
Okay. I'll try again. Maybe.
A
But maybe. Anyways. Well, this was fun. I really could have gone on for hours just yapping.
B
I know. I could have, too.
A
Like, you're so fun, and I want to know more. I thank you for coming on.
B
Thank you so much for giving me. I sound, like, so corporate. Thank you so much for the opportunity today. I'm gonna Go hang myself.
A
No, I hope you have to let me know if you get fired or not or how what happens.
B
I'm putting in. I have a meeting in like 10 minutes, but I'm gonna put my two weeks in while I'm on that meeting.
A
No, I need people to know that she brought her. That you brought your corporate computer and plugged it in right next to the cameras. Like, this is the funniest thing ever.
B
It's like a thinkpad.
A
No, literally, it's like a think pad. You're like turning it. It's perfect. But anyways, guys, thank you for tuning in. As always, you can watch on YouTube and like, listen to me on every other platform. Like comment, subscribe, share to your friends. Agree. Boom. And I love you.
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Episode: Sorority hazing, LA influencer life & funemployment with Lindsey Fishman
Date: October 23, 2025
Host: Hallie Batchelder
Guest: Lindsey Fishman
This episode of "Extra Dirty" is a vibrant, no-holds-barred conversation between NYC influencer Hallie Batchelder and rising LA TikTok personality Lindsey Fishman. The pair spiral through stories about chaotic influencer life, the weirdness of adulthood, the dark side of consulting jobs, the inside scoop on sorority hazing, the complexities of girl/girl friendships (and crimes), and the wild west that is content creation in the age of oversharing. No topic is off limits, and the banter is as hilariously unfiltered as promised.
Intro to Lindsey Fishman / Mutual Connections:
Hallie recounts how multiple people, including Kyle from Nelk and Mike Majlak, kept suggesting she meet Lindsey.
Finding Fame in LA & TikTok:
Lindsey shares the bizarre feeling of strangers knowing her, “not to sound like, egocentric or arrogant about it. But I’m like, who is talking about me right now? And like, tell me.” (01:53, Lindsey)
Insider Influencer Life:
Hallie and Lindsey riff about being behind the scenes and growing their platforms. Hallie reveals her NYC nightlife era, being a Tao “groupie.”
Hangovers & Getting Older:
Both women express horror at their new, grownup hangover experiences:
Ambivalence About Aging:
Transitional College Phases:
Lindsey's Corporate Escape Plan:
Lindsey talks about being in consulting/STEM and the toxic work environment:
Neither Can Describe Lindsey’s Consulting Role:
Lindsey's Two Weeks Notice:
Ranting to the Internet:
The Dangers of Going Viral:
Friends Get Updates from Lives:
Lindsey’s Relationship:
Hallie's Dating Woes:
The Bi Guy ‘Pandemic’:
Condom Conversation:
Greek Life Fails:
Infamous House Incident:
Lindsey on her sorority house: “One girl owned up to shitting in the shower and smearing it all over the walls when she was drunk. But nobody owned up at Purdue.” (26:54)
Hate on Reddit and TikTok:
Defending Others Online & Clapping Back:
Girl on Girl Crime Rate:
Relatable Bullying Anecdotes:
Stories about Formspring, Ask.fm, and Facebook bullying during middle/high school.
Small Town Upbringing:
“East side of Cleveland is set up where all of the actual cities are really small. So everyone at every school, like, kind of knows each other.” (21:34, Lindsey)
Camp, Sports, and Social Awkwardness:
First or Worst...
On streaming culture:
Hallie: “I would rather, I think, die than do that [stream constantly]. I’d get canceled.” (09:46)
On bullying:
Hallie: “Hot people don’t troll.” (32:17)
Lindsey on influencer hate:
“It’s just like I’ve said before, the girl and girl crime rate is insane right now. It’s bad, it’s gone up there.” (32:30)
On quitting jobs:
Lindsey: “I'm putting in my two weeks... I'm gonna put my two weeks in while I'm on that meeting.” (53:16)
On Club Days:
"I used to be like the biggest like club thot groupie, like Tao groupie." (02:37, Hallie)
On Corporate America:
“Working in, like, any sort of STEM field, corporate America job, like, it’s absolutely disgusting how people treat you…” (06:49, Lindsey)
On Modern Oversharing:
Hallie: "I went live once... hooked up with this, like, really like... he was hot, but he was bald and like his dick was very mid and underwhelming." (10:49)
On Toxic Sorority Houses:
Lindsey: "One girl owned up to shitting in the shower and smearing it all over the walls when she was drunk." (26:54)
Bad PR Gifts:
Hallie: "This brand sent me everything they had in their whole, like, inventory... dildos that, like, stick to the wall... just sitting in my kitchen... decor maybe." (41:03–41:49)
On the Bi Guy ‘Pandemic’:
"It's a bisexual pandemic. Not to say it's a bad thing, but..." (15:04, Hallie)
On Being an Influencer:
Hallie: “I had to get eight selfies a night. ... It’s like sex trafficking almost.” (39:17)
Unfiltered, honest, and hilarious storytelling with a playful, confessional energy. Both Hallie and Lindsey let loose with deeply personal who-the-hell-cares tales, dipping between self-deprecating humor and casually savage social commentary. “Extra Dirty” absolutely nails the no-detail-spared, sleepover yapping tone it promises.
For listeners who missed it, this episode offers an intoxicating peek into the realities (and absurdities) of influencer life, contemporary dating chaos, and hilarious war stories from girlhood to adulthood, sprinkled with candid moments of self-doubt, friendship, and that persistent urge to overshare.