The truth about us *ft. my Unwell boyfriend Andrew*

Summary

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Extra Dirty with Hallie Batchelder

Episode: The Truth About Us (ft. my Unwell boyfriend Andrew)
Release Date: May 7, 2026
Host: Hallie Batchelder
Guest: Andrew Vedder

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Episode Overview

This episode of Extra Dirty brings Hallie's "Unwell boyfriend" Andrew Vedder into the "bar" for an extra-honest, extra-flirty conversation. The two dive into their real-life connections, their time together filming Unwell Winter Games, and candidly tackle everything from career pivots and social media fame to relationship philosophies and dating app culture. It’s an authentic and revealing conversation, blending humor, vulnerability, and that signature Extra Dirty energy.

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Major Discussion Points & Insights

Breaking the Ice: From Showmance to Podcast (00:58–08:27)

• First Podcast Jitters & Nostalgia:
  Andrew admits he’s nervous (“It’s my first podcast ever.” [01:43]), but Hallie keeps things playful, likening the episode to a first date.

• Life Post-Unwell Winter Games:
  Hallie and Andrew reminisce about meeting and making out on reality TV, referencing a now infamous confessional by Andrew:

  “I just saw this girl on an Abercrombie ad, and now I'm here making out with her on TV.” – Andrew [01:08]

• Letter Reading:
  Andrew wrote Hallie a sweet, playful letter:

  “P.S. Please, no more jacuzzis with other men. Especially ones with dad bods. That hurt.” – Andrew [06:37]

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Career Turns and Social Media Anxiety (02:11–05:54; 12:22–19:00)

• Andrew’s Career Pivot:
  Andrew discusses leaving production for a new, more public-facing role, transitioning into content creation:

  “I'm leaning out of the production and into social media in a new way of life, which has been exciting, uncomfortable, weird, fun.” [02:32]

• Social Media Growing Pains:
  Both share the anxieties of making and uploading content, coping with inconsistency, and dealing with publicists:

  “Sometimes they hit, sometimes they don't. And then you feel like an idiot.” – Andrew [02:55]
  “I post a lot of shocking things... I wake up the next day, and then my publicist is calling me and yelling at me.” – Hallie [03:50]

• Viral Fame:
  Andrew reflects on the sudden change in his DMs and how attention on social media shifts after appearing on the show:

  “I went from having to give my best in the DMs and be texting all day to, like, offers and opportunities overnight.” – Andrew [09:25]

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Relationships, Showmances and Gender Dynamics (09:01–11:47; 40:16–47:12)

• Relationship Status:
  Andrew says he’s “single,” but they playfully dissect what that really means as public figures and the weirdness of dating on Instagram.

• Gender Psychology in Dating:
  Hallie points out, “That's probably why I would never post a guy that I was ever dating, is because girls just want what someone else has.” [09:58]

• Behind the "Unwell Winter Games":
  The pair break down their flirtations and drama during filming, recalling DMs about Andrew wrestling with castmates, fake narratives online, and show edits.

• Notable Moment: Formal Apology and Forgiveness:
  Hallie apologizes for her flirtations, Andrew graciously forgives:

  “This is my formal apology.” – Hallie [41:27]
  “I forgive you. You know, I forgave you when I watched him talk your ear off in the jacuzzi, I was like...” – Andrew [41:31]

• Philosophies on Chasing & Monogamy:
  Andrew shares his aversion to "chasing" and past heartbreak:

  “If you want me, beautiful, we can go from there. If you want someone else, I set you free and that's fine... I've been hurt from chasing people that don't want me back.” [40:16]

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Deep Dives: Vulnerabilities, Mental Health and ADHD (24:01–29:00)

• Fears & Insecurities About Being Seen:
  Andrew is honest about the struggle of being judged and putting himself online:

  “I think I'm scared of, like, being seen and being judged.” [24:08]

• Handling Negativity:
  Both admit the sting of a single hate comment amongst positive ones. Hallie shares the extreme names she’s called online, reminding Andrew:

  “Worthless? You got a podcast. You're about to be a really good knitter.” – Andrew [25:14]

• Creativity & Mental Health:
  The duo talk about their ADHD diagnoses, Adderall experiences, and how their “brain quirks” fuel creativity:

  “The same thing that made it hard for me to focus in school is the same thing that made me do good in the Winter Games.” – Andrew [27:57]

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Realities of Reality TV (29:39–36:37)

• Andrew’s Casting Story (Industry Plant Rumors):
  Andrew dispels rumors about being an "industry plant," explaining his last-minute casting when someone dropped out:

  “It was a cosmic explosion of destiny. Basically. Kendall Washington from Love Island dropped out, and they got an idea. What if we put Andrew in and have it be part of the show?” [30:09]

• Competition & Show Dynamics:
  Recollections of being paired up, show challenges, and the surreal experience of kissing on TV:

  “But like, I will say I've never kissed on TV like that either. There's just four random men, like, with cameras at all angles.” – Hallie [34:28]

• Notable Quote:

  “My mom was bizarrely supportive. That was what I was most nervous for my mom to see.” – Andrew [35:13]

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Candid Q&A – Dating, Gender Roles & Modern Relationships (52:47–66:53)

• On Posting Partners:
  Andrew is a hard-launcher: “I'm a hard launch guy. Like, I'm like, it's December 31st. I'm like, happy birthday, babe...” [53:02]

• Location Sharing:
  Both agree on privacy:

  “I'm gonna go millennial on this one and say no. I think there should be a little bit of trust, understanding, and acceptance.” – Andrew [66:38]

• First Date Philosophy:
  Andrew prefers active, daytime dates. Both joke about walking, biking, and Hallie knitting in a bike trailer.

• Turn-Ons (Non-Physical):

  “A good listener... that's what I need.” – Andrew [61:51]
  “I always say this. Like, I have an ick. When men are like really rude to weight staff... So maybe on the flip side of that, maybe I just like people that are super polite and patient.” – Hallie [62:30]

• Exes & Love Languages:
  Both reflect on how their exes would describe them, and agree on the importance of trust and communication in relationships.

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Light-Hearted Moments, Flirting, & Fun (Throughout)

• Playful Banter & Flirtation:
  The episode is laced with Hallie and Andrew teasing each other about hobbies, height, and first date ideas—like journaling together or Hallie riding in a toddler bike trailer while knitting.

• Admitting to Cosplay Dumb Blonde Personas:
  Both shed light on their online personas, sharing that they're smarter and deeper than they sometimes appear.

• Memorable Quotes:

  • “Eye contact is hot.” – Hallie [17:13]
  • “I'm a big signs guy. Like, if I'm next to you, it's a sign.” – Andrew [32:06]
  • “East Coasters are like low key junkies… respectfully, like high key junkies.” – Hallie [57:49]

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Timestamps for Key Segments

| Segment | Timestamp | |------------------------------------------------------|--------------| | The “Abercrombie Ad” Confession & Letter | 01:08–07:09 | | Andrew’s Career Shift & Content Creation Anxiety | 02:11–05:54 | | DMs and Dating After the Show | 09:25–10:13 | | Apology, Forgiveness, and Hot Tubgate | 40:59–42:12 | | Mental Health, ADHD, Adderall, and Creativity | 24:01–29:00 | | Behind-the-Scenes of Unwell Winter Games | 29:39–36:37 | | Dating Rules, Posting Partners, Location Sharing | 52:47–66:53 |

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Notable Quotes & Speaker Attribution

• Andrew, on dating post-fame:
  "I went from having to give my best in the DMs and be texting all day to, like, offers and opportunities overnight." [09:25]
• Hallie, on being public with partners:
  “That's probably why I would never post a guy that I was ever dating, is because girls just want what someone else has. It's like psychology or some..." [09:58]
• Andrew, on forgiveness and drama:
  “I forgive you. You know, I forgave you when I watched him talk your ear off in the jacuzzi.” [41:31]
• Hallie, on social media:
  “I kind of cosplay like a dumb blonde on the Internet.” [70:32]
• Andrew, on online personas:
  “I'm kind of like pulling a similar card… I enjoy teasing the Internet a little bit.” [70:40]

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Episode Tone

The tone is intimate yet playful, switching from flirty banter to deeper, sometimes therapeutic dives into vulnerability, fame, and self-reflection. Both Hallie and Andrew are refreshingly self-aware and honest about their lives, relationships, and the complexities of living in the social media spotlight—all while keeping things light and relatable.

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Final Thoughts

If you’re looking for a conversation that’s as revealing about modern dating and social media as it is genuinely sweet (and laugh-out-loud funny), this is a can’t-miss episode. Hallie and Andrew’s chemistry shines, and their confessional moments—about relationships, personal insecurities, ADHD, career changes, and reality TV drama—offer both entertainment and insight. The episode wraps with light-hearted hypothetical first dates, playful teasing, and a toast to whatever comes next.

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Best For: Fans of candid relationship talk, behind-the-scenes reality TV stories, and flirty, self-aware humor.

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Transcript

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[Halle Bachelder]

After the kiss, it panned to like a you doing confessional.

[Andrew Vedder]

Yeah.

[Halle Bachelder]

And you go so crazy. Like, I just saw this girl on an Abercrombie ad.

[Andrew Vedder]

It's true.

[Halle Bachelder]

And now I'm here making out with her on tv.

[Andrew Vedder]

That's true.

[Halle Bachelder]

And I was like, wait, I never did an Abercrombie ad. Let's get Extra Dirty. Welcome back to Extra Dirty Bar. I have my most favorite boyfriend with me, Andrew Vedder. Welcome to Extra Dirty.

[Andrew Vedder]

Thank you for having me.

[Halle Bachelder]

Are you happy to be here?

[Andrew Vedder]

I am. You know, I'm a little bit nervous.

[Halle Bachelder]

Why?

[Andrew Vedder]

Can't lie. It's my first podcast ever.

[Halle Bachelder]

Just picture it as, like, we're on a date together. This is our first date. We're just gonna get to know each other. There's so many things I don't know about you. I mean, we obviously did the Unwell Winter Games, but I don't, like. Do we even talk about the basics?

[Andrew Vedder]

I don't think we did. Like, where are you from?

[Halle Bachelder]

No, like, where are you from? Like, do you have siblings? Like, what's your favorite color?

[Andrew Vedder]

Nothing.

[Halle Bachelder]

So let's start there. Like, well, first, actually, I always ask people, what are we pre gaming?

[Andrew Vedder]

We're pre gaming this next chapter of life. You know, I don't know if you noticed, but I'm in all black right now. I'm. I'm mourning the old me. We're moving on to bigger and better. So that's.

[Halle Bachelder]

What are you, like, retiring the production hat and entering this new phase, new career of being America's sweetheart?

[Andrew Vedder]

I don't know if that's how I'd Word it, but I think I am. I'm leaning out of the production and into social media in a new way of life, which has been exciting, uncomfortable, weird, fun.

[Halle Bachelder]

I feel like you're good at it. I see all your little bits online.

[Andrew Vedder]

You do?

[Halle Bachelder]

Yeah. One of them got, like, a lot of views.

[Andrew Vedder]

Every now and then.

[Halle Bachelder]

Every now and then. Sometimes they just hit.

[Andrew Vedder]

Sometimes they hit, sometimes they don't. And then you feel like an idiot. You're like, all right, I definitely should have never said that.

[Halle Bachelder]

No. But, like, when I. When you first start, like, content creation, like, everyone has to go through, like, a period of time where, like, some of them do really viral, and then some of them are just, like, kind of, like, shockingly no engagement at all. You kind of have to go through that cringy period to, like, see the light at the end of the tunnel.

[Andrew Vedder]

Well, I'm in the cringy period, so

[Halle Bachelder]

I. I wasn't saying you were in the cringy period.

[Andrew Vedder]

Yeah, I felt it.

[Halle Bachelder]

But I'm saying that everyone goes through those growing pains. Like, you can't just, like, automatically be an overnight sensation. Although, like, I feel like you're on that route.

[Andrew Vedder]

I will say I never expected this. And, like, I guess, as I said on the show, sometimes life has a way of choosing things for you. And so I'm just trying to ride this wave and do what I can with it.

[Halle Bachelder]

I like it. Yeah, I like it for you.

[Andrew Vedder]

That's nice to hear. Because sometimes I'm like, what? Why the. Did I post that?

[Halle Bachelder]

No, I do that. I mean, I post a lot of shocking things. I don't know if you've ever seen any of my content, but it's seen some of it. And I post a lot of it when I'm, like, out drinking with my friends, and then I just, like, kind of click upload, and then I wake up the next day, and then, you know, my publicist is calling me and yelling at me, and I don't know what's going on, and it's an accident. So.

[Andrew Vedder]

Yeah, I got my first. My first publicist yelling at me the other day.

[Halle Bachelder]

Really?

[Andrew Vedder]

Actually, it was this morning.

[Halle Bachelder]

What you do? I can't tell if you're.

[Andrew Vedder]

I. No, I swear to God.

[Halle Bachelder]

You have a publicist now?

[Andrew Vedder]

I can't say, but I essentially said too much in a post.

[Halle Bachelder]

You said too much in a post?

[Andrew Vedder]

I said too much in a post. Where's the line?

[Halle Bachelder]

Where's the line?

[Andrew Vedder]

You're either saying too much or not enough.

[Halle Bachelder]

The thing is, like, what do they want from us. The Internet. I will say it's scary when you. It's a very scary place. Especially when, you know, topics are hot or whatever and you like, things can be just taken an internal, interpreted weirdly. And then people can create like a fake narrative around little parts of what you said. Like, it's a lot.

[Andrew Vedder]

It is a lot. So, like when you post a talking head video, how many times do you

[Halle Bachelder]

watch it back a talking.

[Andrew Vedder]

Like you're just talking to the camera. You're like, watch it once, send it, watch it three times, put it in your draft, maybe post it the next day.

[Halle Bachelder]

I mean, so I used to be with Tick Tock especially. That's like my biggest platform. If I didn't like the cadence or like, if I wasn't like doing comedic timing right. Like, I would record it like 10, 15 times.

[Andrew Vedder]

Yeah.

[Halle Bachelder]

And then by the 15th time, you just like. It's not funny at all.

[Andrew Vedder]

No.

[Halle Bachelder]

You know what I mean? It's awkward almost.

[Andrew Vedder]

Yeah. It gets worse.

[Halle Bachelder]

It gets worse and worse, second by the second.

[Andrew Vedder]

Yeah.

[Halle Bachelder]

So I kind of just like. You're right. Like, I try to rip it when I'm like feeling like, creative or like in a silly mood where I just like feel like I have a funny thought and just like, I feel like if you just like one take, one take wonder and then click upload, you gotta. But then like, I rewatch it all the time, especially if it's doing well.

[Andrew Vedder]

I'm like, yeah, that feels good. That feels good. And then if it's not doing well, I'm like, oh, avoiding. Yeah, not clicking on it.

[Halle Bachelder]

It's okay. But you just got to keep posting me because it's consistent.

[Andrew Vedder]

That's good. I got you some wine. Should we pop it open?

[Halle Bachelder]

We? Yeah, I already opened it.

[Andrew Vedder]

This is the. Explain what you got for me. I got her the Brunello. It's Italian. 2019. Really good year for wine. Just kidding. I don't know that at all.

[Halle Bachelder]

Honest.

[Andrew Vedder]

But it's Italian. I'm Italian. It felt right.

[Halle Bachelder]

It felt right.

[Andrew Vedder]

Little slice of home.

[Halle Bachelder]

Did you not know? I like. I love red.

[Andrew Vedder]

You love red.

[Halle Bachelder]

I love red.

[Andrew Vedder]

I'm a big red guy.

[Halle Bachelder]

You know who else loves red? Cameron.

[Andrew Vedder]

Cameron's the man.

[Halle Bachelder]

Well, you also wrote me a letter and I want to.

[Andrew Vedder]

Yeah. Can you.

[Halle Bachelder]

Can I read it?

[Andrew Vedder]

You can.

[Halle Bachelder]

This is so romantic.

[Andrew Vedder]

I feel a little bit exposed, but.

[Halle Bachelder]

Do you want me to read it? No, I can read it in bed later.

[Andrew Vedder]

The people need it.

[Halle Bachelder]

Okay. No one's ever wrote me a Letter.

[Andrew Vedder]

Well, there's a first for everything.

[Halle Bachelder]

Okay, it goes. Dear Halle, thank you for hosting me on Extra Dirty. From my first kiss on camera to my first podcast. Thanks for showing me the ropes. Wishing you many blessings in the coming seasons. P.S. please, no more jacuzzis with other men, especially ones with dad bods. That hurt. Aw, that is so cute.

[Andrew Vedder]

I meant every word of it.

[Halle Bachelder]

Especially the dad bod part.

[Andrew Vedder]

Especially the dad bod part. Because, like, it's not the best look for you, no matter how you slice.

[Halle Bachelder]

It was the altitude, Andrew. It was the altitude. I was just a girl.

[Andrew Vedder]

Here's to the altitude.

[Halle Bachelder]

Here's the altitude. And to us, our first date and

[Andrew Vedder]

to not be on reality TV anymore.

[Halle Bachelder]

I mean, until next time. This is the first time I've had a guy that I've made out with on my show.

[Andrew Vedder]

Really?

[Halle Bachelder]

Yeah.

[Andrew Vedder]

How's it feel?

[Halle Bachelder]

Like I'm kind of nervous now, too.

[Andrew Vedder]

Here's the thing. I'll never be as nervous as I was on the show.

[Halle Bachelder]

Really.

[Andrew Vedder]

Like, I'm.

[Halle Bachelder]

I'm nervous at all.

[Andrew Vedder]

Shout out the editor. He hooked it up. Cause your boy was tripping.

[Halle Bachelder]

You were so good.

[Andrew Vedder]

He gave me a good edit. I will like whoever did that. Thank you. I pray to the gods for good at it.

[Halle Bachelder]

I mean, for people that don't know what we're talking about, we're kind of referring to a show right now. We were both on the Unwell Winter Games. It's on the Unwell YouTube. And we had a little showmance, and it was, like, five days of us in. Where were. Utah Park City. Utah Park City, Utah. Doing activities. And then we headed back to the chalet at night. We got down and dirty. We had some fun.

[Andrew Vedder]

We did it, had some. Shed some tears.

[Halle Bachelder]

Like, we're gonna get to all of that in a minute, but I want to start up some basic stuff that I don't know about you.

[Andrew Vedder]

Yeah, let's get it. Like, let's get into it.

[Halle Bachelder]

Let's get to know you first. Like, all right, cool. How old are you?

[Andrew Vedder]

I'm 32.

[Halle Bachelder]

You're 32?

[Andrew Vedder]

32.

[Halle Bachelder]

How did I not know that? I thought you were, like, 29. You have great skin.

[Andrew Vedder]

Thank you.

[Halle Bachelder]

But 32 is young.

[Andrew Vedder]

It is. Yeah. I feel as young as I've ever been. I feel good. I feel healthy.

[Halle Bachelder]

You look healthy.

[Andrew Vedder]

I. I went through a lot in my 20s. Like, different jobs, different relationships, and it just kind of felt like nothing really stuck. So when all this happened and exploded, it felt like a long time coming. For Me.

[Halle Bachelder]

Oh, that's so cute.

[Andrew Vedder]

Yeah.

[Halle Bachelder]

What's your relationship status now? Don't hurt my feelings.

[Andrew Vedder]

I'm single.

[Halle Bachelder]

You're single.

[Andrew Vedder]

I'm single. Exploring, figuring out how to date on the Internet, which is a little bit weird.

[Halle Bachelder]

I mean, I always say Instagram is, like, the best dating app.

[Andrew Vedder]

It is. I've been no. Hinge, no. Whatever it is. Tinder, whatever all the apps are. I mean, for, like, at least eight years now, I've been clean.

[Halle Bachelder]

I can imagine your DMS are pretty good.

[Andrew Vedder]

Let's just say I went from having to give my best in the DMS and be texting all day to, like, offers and opportunities overnight.

[Halle Bachelder]

Really?

[Andrew Vedder]

Yeah.

[Halle Bachelder]

Offers an opportunity.

[Andrew Vedder]

Yeah. It's weird.

[Halle Bachelder]

Women.

[Andrew Vedder]

It's weird. Like, people are sending me, like, pictures of crevices of their body. Oh.

[Halle Bachelder]

Oh.

[Andrew Vedder]

They're coming up with a date idea. They're telling me I would never bring another man into a Jacuzzi, which seems so.

[Halle Bachelder]

They're crossing me.

[Andrew Vedder]

They're crossing.

[Halle Bachelder]

Do these people follow me?

[Andrew Vedder]

They do. And they keep asking me.

[Halle Bachelder]

You know, that's what I don't like about girls on the Internet. That's probably why I would never post a guy that I was ever dating, is because girls just want what someone else has. It's like. It's like psychology or some.

[Andrew Vedder]

It is.

[Halle Bachelder]

So because you're my man now, they want you.

[Andrew Vedder]

It's.

[Halle Bachelder]

It's. You better have been like, I'm taken.

[Andrew Vedder]

It's. Well, that's not exactly what I said.

[Halle Bachelder]

Okay.

[Andrew Vedder]

But I did like the sound of them not getting in a Jacuzzi with another man. You know, that's like. It seems like a minimum requirement. And I don't. You know, here's the thing. Girls stop coming at Halia. Right? We were both single. We were both totally free to explore what we wanted to explore. You didn't. You didn't cross any boundaries. Am I a sad boy at times. And the things hurt me and do I get sensitive?

[Halle Bachelder]

You?

[Andrew Vedder]

Yes.

[Halle Bachelder]

You also went off with Juliet.

[Andrew Vedder]

It's true. I retaliated.

[Halle Bachelder]

You were wrestling with Sah.

[Andrew Vedder]

It's true.

[Halle Bachelder]

I didn't wrestle with anyone.

[Andrew Vedder]

There's actually. There's a couple accounts that have no profile pictures who are DMing me, like, six times a day. Release the SAH wrestle footage. Release it.

[Halle Bachelder]

Wait, I also was getting tagged in that.

[Andrew Vedder]

Were you getting. They're going crazy.

[Halle Bachelder]

Crazy.

[Andrew Vedder]

I had, like, a full page of tagged photos.

[Halle Bachelder]

I was confused by that. Her fans must be, like, kind of.

[Andrew Vedder]

They're.

[Halle Bachelder]

I think WWE fans. Are like really intense.

[Andrew Vedder]

They're no joke. Like you don't want to cross them.

[Halle Bachelder]

WWE Bravo on will winch.

[Andrew Vedder]

Yes, exactly.

[Halle Bachelder]

Actually probably goes WWE Love Island. Bravo us.

[Andrew Vedder]

Huda.

[Halle Bachelder]

Huda.

[Andrew Vedder]

Like the first 100 comments for the Winter Games. Hudda. Huda. More Hudda. Neat Huda on my screen. Here for Huda. Here for Hudda.

[Halle Bachelder]

I love how everyone's here just for Huda.

[Andrew Vedder]

Yeah, like, what about us?

[Halle Bachelder]

I was like scrolling trying to find

[Andrew Vedder]

my name so as I would like command. Like, yeah, like, oh, the producer boy seems cool. It's like, all right.

[Halle Bachelder]

I feel like the top comment, like, I saw so many edits of you.

[Andrew Vedder]

The edits were hilarious.

[Halle Bachelder]

The edits were like, they were thirst trapping you.

[Andrew Vedder]

They were. They kind of hooked it up. My guy friends would always send them to me like on the middle of a Wednesday.

[Halle Bachelder]

I know. I was like, Alex was like reposting them.

[Andrew Vedder]

Yeah, I've seen a couple of them. Those are funny. Please stop making them though. Please, like, get me out of this. I'm done.

[Halle Bachelder]

So you grew up in the Bay Area?

[Andrew Vedder]

Grew up in the Bay. Then I at the Bay Area, went to school in Arizona where I met my best buddies who were in San Diego and then moved to San Diego right after college. Lived there for eight, nine years and then got this opportunity Unwell. So I came up north.

[Halle Bachelder]

When did you start working at Unwell?

[Andrew Vedder]

December 16th of last year. Yeah.

[Halle Bachelder]

Are you loving it?

[Andrew Vedder]

Yeah, I love it. It's a really good fit. Like, I've always been the guy in my friend group who's had a foot in media. Whether it be like music, YouTube, golf videos, like my own little mini vlogs. I've always like kept that close to me. So now like to be around everyone who's doing a similar thing.

[Halle Bachelder]

Yeah.

[Andrew Vedder]

Feels good. It's fun. Like, I enjoy it.

[Halle Bachelder]

What is your actual role at Unwell?

[Andrew Vedder]

I'm a creative producer that's working in the programming section. So we do a lot of like planning and ideating for particularly our YouTube content. So the Winter Games was my first big project and now we're working on what's coming next.

[Halle Bachelder]

I don't even know what's coming next.

[Andrew Vedder]

I don't either.

[Halle Bachelder]

How do you not know what's coming next?

[Andrew Vedder]

Well, I was not allowed to say.

[Halle Bachelder]

You're not allowed to tell me what's coming next?

[Andrew Vedder]

I can't tell you. I can't tell you. But it's exciting. It's exciting. You know, we might, we might be on their screen sometime soon.

[Halle Bachelder]

Yeah. I thought I thrived in front of a camera.

[Andrew Vedder]

I thought you did really well. Like, you held your space well. You articulated well.

[Halle Bachelder]

I was nice.

[Andrew Vedder]

Was she? She was nice.

[Halle Bachelder]

I got it.

[Andrew Vedder]

I thought you were nice. When I told you I was in like, with you, I felt like it. Like, it balanced the scales.

[Halle Bachelder]

It balances scales?

[Andrew Vedder]

Yeah.

[Halle Bachelder]

When did you say you were in, like, with me?

[Andrew Vedder]

Oh, it's like episode three.

[Halle Bachelder]

Episode three?

[Andrew Vedder]

Go. Go check in. Beginning of episode three.

[Halle Bachelder]

Did you, like, watch it start to finish? Because I. There were some things I couldn't get myself to watch, like the hot tub scene. But then I ended up watching the hot tub scene. But, like, the editing was so funny because it actually was, like. So, like, I was like this. What are you talking about? He was talking about, like, astrology and,

[Andrew Vedder]

like, that's crazy, dude. Who would have known? He even knew his birth sign.

[Halle Bachelder]

What's going on in Utah?

[Andrew Vedder]

Dudes on Aquarius talk when he should just be like, yo.

[Halle Bachelder]

Yeah.

[Andrew Vedder]

Like, he should have just used my line and been like, let's stop talking.

[Halle Bachelder]

And that was a great line.

[Andrew Vedder]

That was. That's my favorite line. That was my. That one in the snowboarding line.

[Halle Bachelder]

What was the snowboarding line?

[Andrew Vedder]

Basically, Lou was like, you ski, don't you, mate? And I was like, nah, snowboard.

[Halle Bachelder]

Oh, yeah.

[Andrew Vedder]

That's all the line.

[Halle Bachelder]

You made your own edit?

[Andrew Vedder]

I did make my own edit. I did all my own edits.

[Halle Bachelder]

Life of reducer. You do YouTube? You have, like, your own YouTube stuff or, like.

[Andrew Vedder]

Yeah, I got. So that was actually how I initially got the job. When I. When I met Matt, I had just started my. My own YouTube channel, which was doing YouTube golf content. And are you a good golfer? I'm. You know, it comes and goes, but I grew up playing, so.

[Halle Bachelder]

So, yeah. So you're just being humble.

[Andrew Vedder]

I'm good one day and I'm bad the next.

[Halle Bachelder]

Tell me things you're good at. Right now.

[Andrew Vedder]

All board sports.

[Halle Bachelder]

Okay.

[Andrew Vedder]

Basketball, golf.

[Halle Bachelder]

Okay.

[Andrew Vedder]

And reading a room. I feel like I have, like, antennas. I can, like, feel what everyone's feeling sometimes.

[Halle Bachelder]

You're an empath. I'm also kind of the same way. Pick up on people's energy. If it's negative, it's like a dark cloud. I, like, kind of, like, absorb it like a sponge. I don't like it. Like, same thing goes for, like, positive vibes, too.

[Andrew Vedder]

Yeah. Yeah. Were you referring to me, My positive vibes?

[Halle Bachelder]

Yeah, I liked. I was attracted to your positive vibes. I feel like it was magnetic. When we first said I to one another. It was in the kitchen before they pulled you.

[Andrew Vedder]

Yeah.

[Halle Bachelder]

And we had some strong eye contact.

[Andrew Vedder]

We.

[Halle Bachelder]

The eye contact, it was there.

[Andrew Vedder]

It's not talked about enough.

[Halle Bachelder]

It's no one. I wish cameras were up for the eye contact.

[Andrew Vedder]

And people are scared of eye contact these days.

[Halle Bachelder]

I have a thing on eye contact where like, I don't like to break it first. I feel like it's really a sign of weakness if you break eye contact first.

[Andrew Vedder]

Deadly combo though.

[Halle Bachelder]

I know we would just stare at

[Andrew Vedder]

each other for like hours.

[Halle Bachelder]

We look really weird in public. Just, we're just not blinking at all.

[Andrew Vedder]

I'm the same way and I feel like with phones now everyone's like up, down, up looking around. If someone's like scared to make eye contact. Red flag.

[Halle Bachelder]

No, like, but if a girl or a guy just makes eye contact with me across the room, I just stare them down until they look away. Like a game of chicken.

[Andrew Vedder]

I like that.

[Halle Bachelder]

It's like a power.

[Andrew Vedder]

I like that. You could never overpower me with it though.

[Halle Bachelder]

No. I feel like some people like, won't work on. And then it gets awkward.

[Andrew Vedder]

Yeah.

[Halle Bachelder]

Someone's got to bow out at some point.

[Andrew Vedder]

Well, someone told me the other day, like, you got to look less in my eyes. My eyes.

[Halle Bachelder]

You think you make too much eye contact. I was in a special case.

[Andrew Vedder]

No, you were a special case. Yeah, I mean, roll the clips. Roll the, roll the clips. You're a special case.

[Halle Bachelder]

Eye contact is hot.

[Andrew Vedder]

It is, yes. It's connecting.

[Halle Bachelder]

But is there such thing as too much eye contact? I guess maybe not for us.

[Andrew Vedder]

Not for a guy like me. I'm all eye contact. Yeah, we gotta balance the scales.

[Halle Bachelder]

Yeah, we gotta balance. I don't know what that means.

[Andrew Vedder]

It means like Libra.

[Halle Bachelder]

So I'm all about balancing the scales.

[Andrew Vedder]

I thought you just said you didn't

[Halle Bachelder]

know what it means, but like I'm interpreting it that way.

[Andrew Vedder]

You gotta know. It's like everyone's. No eye contact. So it's like no eye contact is super heavy. And then we make all the eye contact to balance the scales.

[Halle Bachelder]

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[Andrew Vedder]

I did.

[Halle Bachelder]

Where?

[Andrew Vedder]

University of Arizona.

[Halle Bachelder]

Oh, so you like to party. You don't look like a partier though.

[Andrew Vedder]

I'm not. I'm not anymore. Like in that era, it was like the cool thing to do, so I did it. But I was like starting to lose my own essence the more I did it.

[Halle Bachelder]

Like, the more you partied and went out?

[Andrew Vedder]

Yeah, like at first I joined a fraternity and it was the cool thing to do and I made friends and you're doing the keg stands and whatever it is. And then I think I just started to like, like fall a little bit between the cracks. And then that's when I started to like, make music and like, develop my own, like, things that I like to do.

[Halle Bachelder]

What instruments do you play?

[Andrew Vedder]

I play guitar, piano, ukulele, and bass.

[Halle Bachelder]

You're like a multifaceted person. I have no hobbies.

[Andrew Vedder]

You don't?

[Halle Bachelder]

Like, what do you think I'm good at?

[Andrew Vedder]

I feel like you'd be great at knitting.

[Halle Bachelder]

I actually.

[Andrew Vedder]

You know what I mean?

[Halle Bachelder]

I had to learn how to knit when I. I was in rehab once, twice. But, like, I got really good at knitting.

[Andrew Vedder]

Yeah, you know, I. I think you'd be, like, incredible at knitting.

[Halle Bachelder]

That's sweet.

[Andrew Vedder]

You kind of just like, sit there with your legs crossed. You just, like, knit and, like, stare at people.

[Halle Bachelder]

Like, just don't look down at what I'm knitting. 100% across.

[Andrew Vedder]

Like, pick up knitting. You know what else you could be good at?

[Halle Bachelder]

What?

[Andrew Vedder]

Not the person who plays golf, but, like, the person who rides in the cart.

[Halle Bachelder]

I would be a good golf cart rider.

[Andrew Vedder]

You'd be great at that.

[Halle Bachelder]

And give me all the beverages.

[Andrew Vedder]

Yeah, you could, like, support, like, every now and then. You'd be like, nice shot.

[Halle Bachelder]

Wait, Yeah, I could do that.

[Andrew Vedder]

Yeah.

[Halle Bachelder]

Do you think. Could you see me do any contact sports?

[Andrew Vedder]

You know, I think you're feistier than they give you credit for.

[Halle Bachelder]

Like, all right, so when I did the ski challenge, you were kind of good at skiing, but, like, he's heavier and he's a guy.

[Andrew Vedder]

Yeah. What was the deal with that? He doesn't strike me as an athlete. Love the guy.

[Halle Bachelder]

He's got, like, a ten pack at all.

[Andrew Vedder]

What's the deal with that, Eileen? You know, let's bring this to the surface. How rift is too rift? Like, does it make you uncomfortable? A little bit. Like, where's the line here?

[Halle Bachelder]

I don't like too shredded.

[Andrew Vedder]

That's what I'm saying. Like.

[Halle Bachelder]

Like, I like. But I don't like doughy either. I mean, I'm not gonna sit here,

[Andrew Vedder]

I don't know, run the tapes.

[Halle Bachelder]

Oh, God.

[Andrew Vedder]

Does she not like doughy? I can't wait to clip that. I'm gonna clip it myself.

[Halle Bachelder]

Okay. You're gonna edit the episode. Okay. I think there's such thing as two ripped. I don't like veins protruding. Like, some vascularness is hard. Yeah. I think it all depends on how tall tall to ripped ratio is.

[Andrew Vedder]

So, like, you can't be. Like, if you're too short, you can't be too ripped if you're too tall. Like, where's the ratio?

[Halle Bachelder]

Short and extremely ripped. You kind of start to look like an action figure.

[Andrew Vedder]

But, like, that's all the short guys have. Like, if they're not ripped Then where. What are you? You can start a business as a short guy.

[Halle Bachelder]

I, like, don't go to the gym much.

[Andrew Vedder]

You don't? You're just like, naturally, like, look like you're in good shape.

[Halle Bachelder]

I'm like, very thin, but, like, I'm like kind of just like a little stick figure with fake tits.

[Andrew Vedder]

I think you're more than that. See, I don't go to the gym because I'm cool. I go to the gym because, like, my mind goes crazy. And it's how I comment there's a little, like, Tasmanian devil in me that

[Halle Bachelder]

if I don't go the energy out,

[Andrew Vedder]

get the energy out, then I'm crazy.

[Halle Bachelder]

I have, like, kind of this, like, fear of going to the gym now that I haven't been in so long.

[Andrew Vedder]

Really?

[Halle Bachelder]

Like, I'm scared to, like, lift in front of other people. Like, what if I drop it on my toe and, like, have to, like, limp out of there or something?

[Andrew Vedder]

Or like, I mean, like, sometimes the only way to beat a fear is to go towards it.

[Halle Bachelder]

So what, what are you scared of?

[Andrew Vedder]

I think I'm scared of, like, being seen and being judged.

[Halle Bachelder]

Really?

[Andrew Vedder]

Yeah. I think that's been a big thing for me through this whole thing is like, I feel like on a soul level, I'm like, this is all supposed to happen. But also it's like I'm scared of people judging me and seeing me. So I constantly have to, like, climb that hurdle to post stuff.

[Halle Bachelder]

I mean, people are going to judge you regardless whether you're camera forward or not. I think that's just like, the nature of, you know, humans, unfortunately. But also, I mean, were you getting hate comments?

[Andrew Vedder]

There was one. It's funny, you can see all these positives and the one is just like, stabs you in the heart.

[Halle Bachelder]

Yeah, you always focus on, like, that one.

[Andrew Vedder]

Yeah, yeah. It was like, oh, Andrew, all he is is hot until he opens his mouth and then he's just stupid or something like that.

[Halle Bachelder]

And I was like, that, like, isn't even me. Like, have you ever been called, like, an ugly, dumb cunt on the Internet?

[Andrew Vedder]

I mean, I'd rather that.

[Halle Bachelder]

Really?

[Andrew Vedder]

Maybe not.

[Halle Bachelder]

Like, I've been called a worthless. Oh, my God, all the names in the book.

[Andrew Vedder]

Yo, chill Internet.

[Halle Bachelder]

Like, no, chill Internet.

[Andrew Vedder]

Worthless. You got a podcast. You're about to be a really good knitter.

[Halle Bachelder]

I'm about to, like, I'm going to knit you a sweater.

[Andrew Vedder]

Please.

[Halle Bachelder]

When you start your podcast. You brought me wine. I'm going to bring you a hand knit.

[Andrew Vedder]

Wait, Well, I like this. So if I were to start a podcast, what do you think it would be about and what would it be called? Maybe not what it's called. Let's like, we can chill.

[Halle Bachelder]

I think the con, just based off what I've seen you post, you're very like, not philosophical, maybe a bit philosophical, but like kind of like uplifting and motivating.

[Andrew Vedder]

Okay.

[Halle Bachelder]

Like you have like a really positive outlook on life. I feel like you should tap into that a little bit. Is there anything you're passionate about, like topic wise?

[Andrew Vedder]

I like mental. I like, like I'm really into biohacking and just figuring out how to optimize the human state, which I'm in for sure. That was a little bit extra like.

[Halle Bachelder]

But no, tell me more about that because I could probably, I could probably learn a couple of things.

[Andrew Vedder]

All the podcasts I listen to are like bio hacking, which just has to do with like different things you can do to optimize your internal system to feel good.

[Halle Bachelder]

I think I do the complete opposite of that. I like to. I like bio degrade hack. I find different ways where I can like make myself feel absolutely worse.

[Andrew Vedder]

Okay. I think like, we could take a little bit from each other.

[Halle Bachelder]

Yeah, we can be in the middle.

[Andrew Vedder]

Yeah. Like, I could chill on some of

[Halle Bachelder]

this stuff and then I could lock in.

[Andrew Vedder]

Yeah. Yeah. So I'll send you some podcasts for you to lock into. Yeah, you send me some like chill stuff that's like, do you have ADHD? 100%. They diagnosed, diagnosed me when I was young.

[Halle Bachelder]

I have so many different letters of the Alphabet when it comes to that stuff. But ehd, ocd, I have a lot of things.

[Andrew Vedder]

Here's the thing with all these adds, EODs, lo, whatever the fuck is like the LOL. Like, it's really just a label that sometimes you get stuck inside of. So like, for example, they said I had add, so it was hard for me to sit and listen in class. But also like, the positive of that is that my brain like goes and I'm constantly coming up with ideas and I can like freestyle rap on the flip of a coin. So like, there's positives on for every negative of like those situations. So I don't think ADD is a bad thing. And I think we gotta like, be a little careful as a society of just saying we have add. And it's a problem because it's like the same thing that made it hard for me to focus in school is the same thing that made me do good in the Winter Games. Yeah, Like, I'm just saying, the most random stuff you can think of.

[Halle Bachelder]

I kind of feel like people with ADD or ADHD are, like, the most creative in a way.

[Andrew Vedder]

Every time.

[Halle Bachelder]

Yeah.

[Andrew Vedder]

Like, and then they put me on Adderall when I was a junior in high school. I got like, straight A's off rip.

[Halle Bachelder]

Yeah.

[Andrew Vedder]

I was like, barely passing and I turned into just some God in school.

[Halle Bachelder]

Yeah. But it kind of makes you feel like shit. Like you feel cracked out.

[Andrew Vedder]

I felt. I felt like shit. And then the day I stopped taking it, I remember I started googling, like, why do I feel empty inside? It's like, that's how.

[Halle Bachelder]

No, the calm down from Adderall is. Needs to be studied because I too was diagnosed when I was in seventh grade. And like, yeah, yeah, adhd. A lot of different things. A bit on it, but I'm on nothing right now. But, like, when you took Adderall, I used to only take it to study for finals or for tests and stuff like that. Or write a paper.

[Andrew Vedder]

It.

[Halle Bachelder]

The calm down is, like, so depressing.

[Andrew Vedder]

So depressing because it's essentially just blasting your system with all these feel good chemicals. So you can just sit and it's like meth. Like.

[Halle Bachelder]

No, it's literally.

[Andrew Vedder]

Isn't it like one, like, chromosome away or something? Don't quote us.

[Halle Bachelder]

Don't quote me.

[Andrew Vedder]

Not quote us. But it is one chromosome away from meth.

[Halle Bachelder]

No. Yeah, it was. But, like, those are the times to be alive.

[Andrew Vedder]

I mean, it was amazing. Like, when I started acing Spanish.

[Halle Bachelder]

Are you fluent in Spanish too?

[Andrew Vedder]

No.

[Halle Bachelder]

What are you not?

[Andrew Vedder]

No. I don't speak a language.

[Halle Bachelder]

But you can rap.

[Andrew Vedder]

I can rap. Yeah.

[Halle Bachelder]

Rap right now. Rap about me.

[Andrew Vedder]

Nah, it's not the time.

[Halle Bachelder]

It's not the time.

[Andrew Vedder]

You can't force a vibe.

[Halle Bachelder]

We're not vibing.

[Andrew Vedder]

This is a vibe. But you can't just throw for, like you're not playing an instrument. People aren't around me.

[Halle Bachelder]

Yeah. I feel like maybe after we finish, a little bit more wine, we can maybe wrap. I might try.

[Andrew Vedder]

Okay.

[Halle Bachelder]

All right, let's talk about the Unwell Winner games. Let's talk about it, like, from start to finish. So explain to our friends here how you were asked to be on cuz everyone thinks you're an industry plan.

[Andrew Vedder]

I saw those articles. I'm. They're bringing me so much joy.

[Halle Bachelder]

You were like People Mag or something. Was Us Weekly.

[Andrew Vedder]

I think it was Cosmopolitan.

[Halle Bachelder]

I think there was a few.

[Andrew Vedder]

Honestly, it's all the same to me. Yeah, you're like, I Don't get it. So it's like.

[Halle Bachelder]

I mean, it's kind of sick.

[Andrew Vedder]

Essentially, like, the way I explain it is it was a cosmic explosion of destiny. Basically. Showed up to set. My boss called me and was like, yo, like, come down to the parking lot. We want to meet you here. We got some things for you to do. I went to the parking lot. I was standing there. She started asking me all these, like, weird, random questions. And I saw Alex come around the corner with all the camera crew, and then they started to turn to me, and I was like, oh, my God.

[Halle Bachelder]

You really goes.

[Andrew Vedder]

I'm like, oh, my God, are they gonna put me in? And then I heard Andrew, and then I walked into the camera. And then from that moment on, it was over.

[Halle Bachelder]

Yeah.

[Andrew Vedder]

Kendall Washington from Love island dropped out, and they got an idea. They were like, what if we put Andrew in and, like, have it be part of the show?

[Halle Bachelder]

Well, it was kind of like the best plot twist ever, and everyone thinks it was, like, orchestrated, but, like, Kendall actually misses flight.

[Andrew Vedder]

He actually apparent was drinking too much and then missed the flight. Like, went out the night before.

[Halle Bachelder]

Yeah. He was, like, in la. I remember him texting me, like, I'm supposed to come tomorrow, and just, like, never happened.

[Andrew Vedder]

Yeah.

[Halle Bachelder]

Like, oh, hell. Were you excited? Were you. When you were cast on the show, were you, like, nervous or, like, what was your.

[Andrew Vedder]

I was super nervous, but at the same time, it felt like a really cool opportunity, and so I was just rolled with the punches.

[Halle Bachelder]

Were you like, I can do a show like this because I grew up playing sports. Like, you grew up playing sports. You are competitive, it seems.

[Andrew Vedder]

Yeah. And I had just enough experience in front of the camera, and, like, I just started to do this YouTube golf stuff. And I had been in front of the camera for different things in my. Throughout my 20s. And so I was like, I'm ready.

[Halle Bachelder]

Like, I will say. So we paired up. First challenge, you chose me.

[Andrew Vedder]

Yeah.

[Halle Bachelder]

Or we chose each other.

[Andrew Vedder]

We chose each other.

[Halle Bachelder]

But we were pretty eye contacted.

[Andrew Vedder]

Yeah, we were eye contacted up at that point.

[Halle Bachelder]

Yeah.

[Andrew Vedder]

There was no left. Again, we were sitting next to each other.

[Halle Bachelder]

Yeah.

[Andrew Vedder]

So it was like. But it was mainly that I'm a big signs guy. Like, if I'm next to you, it's a sign.

[Halle Bachelder]

We were at a disadvantage for the first challenge. The first challenge being, like, we had to guess how many followers people had after, like, going around the course.

[Andrew Vedder]

Yeah.

[Halle Bachelder]

On a. What's it called? Snowmobile.

[Andrew Vedder]

Snowmobile, yeah.

[Halle Bachelder]

And if you think about it, like, everyone that went through that challenge, if they paid attention to each person, what they put for themselves of how many followers they had the last people, if they paid attention to every single person doing that, they could have won.

[Andrew Vedder]

Exactly.

[Halle Bachelder]

We were first. No one had gone before us.

[Andrew Vedder]

No.

[Halle Bachelder]

I mean, I almost got eliminated. We had to talk about that.

[Andrew Vedder]

We do.

[Halle Bachelder]

Yeah. So what made you want to soup in and save me?

[Andrew Vedder]

Like you said, eye contact can only go so far. I knew. I figured it was going to be skiing, snowboarding, definitely not beer pong, which is also a strong suit. So I was like, all right, let me step in and whoop this guy in snowboarding and come back.

[Halle Bachelder]

Yeah. I mean, I'm so glad, honestly, didn't have to do that. It was the sweetest thing you have ever that you stepped in. But like, honestly, beer pong is. I'm so bad at it because I'm so cross eyed. My depth perception, I would have, like, been throwing it at Louie's head.

[Andrew Vedder]

Yeah. Well, then, thank the Lord, I still lost anyway.

[Halle Bachelder]

I don't know how you. You were started off so strong.

[Andrew Vedder]

I started so strong. And then the pressure got to me. I started imagining the 10k. I haven't made that much money and all of my 20s ever. Holy, that's a lot.

[Halle Bachelder]

But then you got eliminated.

[Andrew Vedder]

Yeah.

[Halle Bachelder]

And then you came back as a bartender.

[Andrew Vedder]

That was the craziest part of it all.

[Halle Bachelder]

I didn't see them letting you go like that. Like, I had a feeling that they were gonna bring you back in some capacity.

[Andrew Vedder]

I didn't have that feeling because we

[Halle Bachelder]

were in love at that point.

[Andrew Vedder]

Well, I remember after the beer pong scene, like, I just had a smile ear to ear because it was like, you know what, What a life experience. Like, so I was so content at that point. I think life has a way of, like, when you're at peace and when you're grateful for what you have, it'll give you more. And wow. In that moment, I just. Alex popped back up and was like, wardrobe's wait and you're going back as the bartender.

[Halle Bachelder]

And then we had our first reality tv.

[Andrew Vedder]

We did.

[Halle Bachelder]

Wait. What? Can we talk?

[Andrew Vedder]

I was so nervous on that scene. That's.

[Halle Bachelder]

No, I was nervous. I couldn't. I couldn't watch it. It was a great kiss, though.

[Andrew Vedder]

It was.

[Halle Bachelder]

It was a great kiss.

[Andrew Vedder]

It was a good kiss.

[Halle Bachelder]

But like, I will say I've never kissed on TV like that either. There's just four random men, like, with cameras at all angles. Just like there.

[Andrew Vedder]

It felt like there was eight.

[Halle Bachelder]

It felt like There was a whole audience.

[Andrew Vedder]

And the light was getting brighter, too. Like.

[Halle Bachelder]

And they were just, like, silent.

[Andrew Vedder]

They would, like, say something.

[Halle Bachelder]

Like, what are they gonna say?

[Andrew Vedder]

I don't like, growing her moan or something. Not actually. Don't do that. Yeah. I felt like we could have used some moral support there. And they were just, like, silent little.

[Halle Bachelder]

They were just like.

[Andrew Vedder]

And then I was like, wait a second. My mom's gonna watch this.

[Halle Bachelder]

Did your mom watch it?

[Andrew Vedder]

She did.

[Halle Bachelder]

What'd she think of me?

[Andrew Vedder]

I'll say this. Like, my mom was bizarrely supportive. Like, that was what I was most nervous for my mom to see it, because, you know, we're drinking. It's a fun environment. Like, it's a very controlled party, like, version of yourself. And so I was like, oh, no. Mama bear is gonna have to see this.

[Halle Bachelder]

But, I mean, my parents didn't even know I went on it. I asked them if they saw it the other day. They're like, what show are you talking about?

[Andrew Vedder]

Let's see. That's.

[Halle Bachelder]

And I was like, you don't need to go see it, because there's. I just did too much.

[Andrew Vedder]

That's the dream. I mean, knowing my mom, she watched the first episode and was like, oh, that's my sweetie. And then never saw the rest.

[Halle Bachelder]

Yeah.

[Andrew Vedder]

You know, which is, like, probably best.

[Halle Bachelder]

Yeah. Fingers crossed.

[Andrew Vedder]

Yeah. Yeah. But I think, like, overall, I'm. I'm proud of how I handled it. And, like, yeah, the kids. It is what it is.

[Halle Bachelder]

The show.

[Andrew Vedder]

Like, the whole show. Yeah, the show. Yeah.

[Halle Bachelder]

After the kiss, it panned to, like, a You doing confessional.

[Andrew Vedder]

Yeah.

[Halle Bachelder]

You go so crazy. Like, I just saw this girl on an Abercrombie ad.

[Andrew Vedder]

It's true.

[Halle Bachelder]

And now I'm here making out with her on tv.

[Andrew Vedder]

That's true.

[Halle Bachelder]

And I was like, like, watching it, and I was like, wait, I never did an Abercrombie ad.

[Andrew Vedder]

You were, like, 30ft big at the San Diego mall.

[Halle Bachelder]

Like, really?

[Andrew Vedder]

Right above the Abercrombie store.

[Halle Bachelder]

Wait, I think it was garage.

[Andrew Vedder]

I mean, it's all the same. Listen. What company?

[Halle Bachelder]

Like, you were worried it was my Good Wipes ad.

[Andrew Vedder]

No. You were like. You were mog in the camera. You were. No toilet. No toilet involved. And I was right. When I had got hired by Unwell and I was walking through the mall with one of my good buddies, Brady. Shout out Brady.

[Halle Bachelder]

Shout out Brady.

[Andrew Vedder]

And she was like, you know who that is? And I was like, no clue. Sorry. I didn't know. She was like, that's Hallie Bachelder. Like she has a podcast run. Well, boom, boom, bang bang. And I was like, oh my God. Like she looks great.

[Halle Bachelder]

Oh, thank you.

[Andrew Vedder]

And so then when it was happening, I was like, this is what a story that I saw you at the mall a couple months ago.

[Halle Bachelder]

I mean that is kind of crazy. Honestly, didn't even know I was in these malls.

[Andrew Vedder]

It was like 30. It was a 30 foot poster.

[Halle Bachelder]

Was it a good, it was a good picture.

[Andrew Vedder]

Best photo you've ever taken. Oh God, like the fact that they didn't call you and tell you to come check it out?

[Halle Bachelder]

No, because I was in every vestibule of a garage store for a good amount of time. Was I wearing purple?

[Andrew Vedder]

I thought you were in like a white wife beater kind of vibe. You're in like a white tank.

[Halle Bachelder]

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[Andrew Vedder]

No, that's not my. Like I said it on camera, what's meant to be will be. If you want me beautiful, we can go from there. If you want someone else, I set you free and that's fine. It's not because I'm like Buddha. It's because, like, I've been hurt from chasing people that don't want me back.

[Halle Bachelder]

So you didn't want to chase?

[Andrew Vedder]

Yeah.

[Halle Bachelder]

I think I was just like, acting too freely. Maybe. I don't know. I maybe was in the wrong for that. In hindsight, maybe I shouldn't have been in the hot tub with that and we didn't end up doing anything in the hot tub.

[Andrew Vedder]

I know, but. But we can be. We can be honest. We can balance the scales.

[Halle Bachelder]

We can balance the scales.

[Andrew Vedder]

You can balance the scales because we were both single.

[Halle Bachelder]

Yeah.

[Andrew Vedder]

You didn't owe me anything.

[Halle Bachelder]

You could have made out with anyone too.

[Andrew Vedder]

I could have.

[Halle Bachelder]

But you didn't because.

[Andrew Vedder]

But I didn't. Because I'm a good guy.

[Halle Bachelder]

I'm the bad guy.

[Andrew Vedder]

Which something tells me you kind of enjoy being.

[Halle Bachelder]

No, I was just, you know, testing, dipping my toe in different ponds.

[Andrew Vedder]

Which is valid when I had a

[Halle Bachelder]

perfect good pond in front of me.

[Andrew Vedder]

Well, I appreciate the sentiment.

[Halle Bachelder]

Yeah. So I guess this is my formal apology.

[Andrew Vedder]

First of all, thank you for the apology.

[Halle Bachelder]

Of course. Do you forgive me?

[Andrew Vedder]

I forgive you. You know, I forgave you. When I watched him talk your off in the jacuzzi, I was like.

[Halle Bachelder]

I was honestly punishing myself.

[Andrew Vedder]

I thought no one deserves that.

[Halle Bachelder]

What's the saying? He was talking a dog off a meat wagon. Like he could have just kept going.

[Andrew Vedder]

Yeah, like he could have been just talking to the jacuzzi jets. You probably could actually just like quietly gotten out. And he would have kept talking.

[Halle Bachelder]

I could have laughed. I don't think he would have known any idea. He would have. Not a clue what was going.

[Andrew Vedder]

Not at all.

[Halle Bachelder]

Like, I don't even know what we were talking about. I know astrology.

[Andrew Vedder]

All I know, he's an Aquarius commitment.

[Halle Bachelder]

And then did you see when he was like, do you actually have a crush on me? And I was like, yes. And then pan to the confession, like, oh, no.

[Andrew Vedder]

That was kind of your vibe, Loki. I felt like, everything sweet. I said he would, like, bat it down with something that was just like, I am what? Let's get into this. What's really. Is this, like. Is this your way of protecting your heart? Like, why do you feel like you always have to keep your options open?

[Halle Bachelder]

I think maybe because I just feel like guys typically, like, treat me as an option, so I just want to be, like, playing. Being, like, a woman in a man's field. Like, if they're gonna keep their options open, I'm gonna keep my options open. Which doesn't mean it's always the case that it's like that. But I would rather like, you know, maybe it's just, like, a validation thing. I want to get validation from multiple people. So I don't, like, crash out over one person. I tend to put all my eggs one basket and usually bites me in the ass.

[Andrew Vedder]

You tend to put all your eggs in one basket and invite you in the ass. When was the last time you put your eggs in one basket and it bit you in the ass? This is turning to therapy.

[Halle Bachelder]

Easter. No, I don't know. The last time. I like, like, generally, like, really like someone where I was, like, shutting everyone else out maybe over a year. I like this guy last year a lot, but looking back, like, I don't even know how I. I think it was just, like, winter, and I think I just, like, really liked. Needed a warm body near me.

[Andrew Vedder]

I get that winter is tough.

[Halle Bachelder]

Seasonal depression. I think I was just, like, really in the midst of that.

[Andrew Vedder]

Yeah. Comfort's a deadly drug.

[Halle Bachelder]

Yeah. And just, like, I don't know before that, though, probably not for, like, three years, four years, where I've generally really liked someone. But then, like, the last guy I really liked, he screwed me over in a really big way, so I was like that.

[Andrew Vedder]

So you feel like by you keeping your options over, you, like, protect yourself from getting screwed over.

[Halle Bachelder]

Yeah. I also feel like liking someone a lot is not a good look on me. I don't wear it well. I kind of get, like, insecure. Rather than, like, be a bad and be like, this is how it should be treated. I'm more like ignoring all the red flags and being, like, giving people the benefit of the doubt until, like. Until it's, like, really bad.

[Andrew Vedder]

Yeah.

[Halle Bachelder]

Until, like, they can just feel like, they can walk all over me and do whatever. So until I figured that out and myself, I kind of keep a guard up.

[Andrew Vedder]

Yeah.

[Halle Bachelder]

Sometimes. This is becoming therapy.

[Andrew Vedder]

It really is. I mean, I get it, too. Like, I am. I'm a similar way. Like, when I care about someone, then, like, my insecurities do come out.

[Halle Bachelder]

Yeah.

[Andrew Vedder]

And I feel like it's, like, a similar cycle I've been in the last few years of, like, oh, I start to care. Let me, like, protect myself and pull away.

[Halle Bachelder]

Yeah. I become my own worst enemy.

[Andrew Vedder]

Yeah.

[Halle Bachelder]

But I'm getting older, so I'm gonna have to, like, settle down eventually.

[Andrew Vedder]

I mean, you don't have to do anything.

[Halle Bachelder]

Like, I want to have kids and a family, though.

[Andrew Vedder]

Yeah.

[Halle Bachelder]

Yeah. I really want kids. I love kids.

[Andrew Vedder]

Yeah, same.

[Halle Bachelder]

Do you want kids?

[Andrew Vedder]

I do. Yeah.

[Halle Bachelder]

You want to get married one day?

[Andrew Vedder]

I want to raise a family. Like, I really do want to raise a family. I don't know. Like, for me, I'm open to how that looks. And, like, I just. I question, like, the whole marriage thing and, like, what it really is.

[Halle Bachelder]

Yeah. You think it's, like, kind of, like a social construct? Like.

[Andrew Vedder]

Yeah. Like, with. Without getting too, like, hippie and spiritual about it.

[Halle Bachelder]

Like, I had a feeling you would get this.

[Andrew Vedder]

I want to, like, connect with someone on a level where, like, we want to be with each other, and we choose that every day. And we're not just, like, binded by marriage, because that's the thing to do. So I. I'm open to marriage, and I. I would get married if it was right, but I'm not. Like, I want to get married, you know?

[Halle Bachelder]

Yeah. And honestly, that, like, piece of paper that binds you to someone legally, like, can make things a lot more complicated.

[Andrew Vedder]

Totally.

[Halle Bachelder]

So totally.

[Andrew Vedder]

But, I mean, I'm open to it. I feel, like, kind of ready to settle down in some ways.

[Halle Bachelder]

I mean, you're 32.

[Andrew Vedder]

32.

[Halle Bachelder]

I feel like you still have some time. Guys, like, have more time than we do girls.

[Andrew Vedder]

Well, it's interesting, too, now, like, being in the, like. I'm not gonna say influencer space, but being in the, like, social media space and, like, the TV space, it feels like being in a steady relationship, like, directly goes against that. And it's, like, to live this life, sometimes I feel like I have to be single, which is, like, kind of conflicting with my heart, because I do want to settle down.

[Halle Bachelder]

I will say that I feel like since I've been in this space, I feel like dating in general has become more of, like, a chore and, yeah, like, it makes things a bit more complicated.

[Andrew Vedder]

It does.

[Halle Bachelder]

I don't know. People's intentions are sometimes not always the purest. And also, like.

[Andrew Vedder]

Yeah.

[Halle Bachelder]

Especially with the show. I mean, shows called Extra Dirty. I say I've said a lot of things.

[Andrew Vedder]

Totally.

[Halle Bachelder]

I think that kind of can either, like, I don't know, it rubs some guys the wrong way.

[Andrew Vedder]

Yeah. I mean, you're gonna need, like, a strong dude who, like, doesn't waver and doesn't give a what you say.

[Halle Bachelder]

I mean, I've talked about this with Alex before because. And, like, obviously, like, the OG days of Colorado, they were saying crazier, but, like, someone that's, like, kind of, like, industry adjacent, that, like, doesn't really care, like, gets that, like, this is a job also in a lot of ways and just, like, lets you kind of rock with it. Like. Yeah, I. I admire her relationship with Matt and a lot for that reason.

[Andrew Vedder]

Yeah. I feel like he's really good at, like, letting her be the full her.

[Halle Bachelder]

Yeah.

[Andrew Vedder]

And, like.

[Halle Bachelder]

And, like, supports everything. Yeah, she does. So who have you kept in touch with from the cast?

[Andrew Vedder]

I've kept in touch with Saraya.

[Halle Bachelder]

Where you guys been hanging out?

[Andrew Vedder]

Yeah, she's like a. Like a guardian angel. Big sister to me.

[Halle Bachelder]

I, like, love her.

[Andrew Vedder]

She's incredible.

[Halle Bachelder]

Like, you know what's weird? Not to interrupt you, but, like, they. Her and Akin were, like, talking, like, about me the first episode.

[Andrew Vedder]

They were?

[Halle Bachelder]

Yeah. But I think by the end of it, they liked me.

[Andrew Vedder]

They did, yeah. And you do, like, in their defense.

[Halle Bachelder]

No, I get it. The way it was edited, too.

[Andrew Vedder]

I was like, they get you like that. Like, and maybe, like, you know, there's a little bit of truth in it. And you could smile, like, 3% more. Like, I think I love that.

[Halle Bachelder]

So tired, those days.

[Andrew Vedder]

It was exhausting. Like, I think that's one thing about reality tv. I had no idea. Like, like, every day getting out of bed was so hard. You're so drained. There's so much adrenaline. You're overthinking everything you said. So, like, anyone who's done the Bachelor Love island, like, respect. This was five days every day. I thought I couldn't do it anymore.

[Halle Bachelder]

And we, like, were allowed to keep our phones.

[Andrew Vedder]

Yeah. It was apparently a very lax environment.

[Halle Bachelder]

I was, like, kind of spiraling.

[Andrew Vedder]

I was spiraling too ill on camera.

[Halle Bachelder]

Definitely spiraling.

[Andrew Vedder]

Who spiraled the most? Most? I think probably me.

[Halle Bachelder]

There was a couple times I, like, snapped a little bit. Oh. Like, I was getting pissed at.

[Andrew Vedder]

Yeah.

[Halle Bachelder]

Thing like, when I almost got eliminated. I drank, like, three gin martinis. I'm not good on gin. And I just remember being like, what the. Like, like, why would I, like, come all the way here? Just, like, almost get booted off? I didn't know it was elimination show. Yeah, there were some interesting personalities on the show that, like, I. I ended up loving at the end. But the first day, I was like, oh, I can't believe I have to do this for, like, five days.

[Andrew Vedder]

You know what's so interesting? As a producer, I remember watching you guys arrive, and my thought was, like, that looks so fun and easy. Like, you get to get dressed in wardrobe, like, mess around on camera, do whatever you want. And then when I switched over, it's

[Halle Bachelder]

like, a lot of waiting.

[Andrew Vedder]

It's like, whoa, this is, like, actually really hard. And then I look at production and be like. Like, that looks easy. Like, they're chilling.

[Halle Bachelder]

Yeah, they're just chilling.

[Andrew Vedder]

They're just chilling. But the truth is, neither are true. Like, both have their own hardships. Like, and I think being in front of the camera is, like, harder on the soul and, like, the ego and being behind, like, the production side is harder, like, on your body and, like, physically and, like, all the work you have, it's more physical work, work, but in front of the cameras, like, mental work.

[Halle Bachelder]

Were you one of those people that were watching all the cameras? Inside of that? Wasn't there, like, a TV village or something like that?

[Andrew Vedder]

That was mostly Alex. Like, she was.

[Halle Bachelder]

I didn't really.

[Andrew Vedder]

She was calling the shots.

[Halle Bachelder]

I didn't realize, like, how in the weed she was in the background. It was fun. Like, till the next one, it was fun.

[Andrew Vedder]

I mean, I honestly think I'm retired. Like, I don't know if my heart can take anymore.

[Halle Bachelder]

Like, oh, are you sensitive?

[Andrew Vedder]

I'm sensitive, yeah.

[Halle Bachelder]

I feel like you're so good, though.

[Andrew Vedder]

See, for me, like, and maybe I'm critical of myself. Like, it was painful to watch a lot of the things I said. Painful.

[Halle Bachelder]

I thought you were so good.

[Andrew Vedder]

Thank you. Thank you. What I'm learning is, like, the human predicament is that you actually can't see yourself or tell what you're like. Like, so it's been nice to, like, hear things like this. That's like, oh, like, I liked you on the show. It's, like, cool. Like, that's nice to hear. That's healing.

[Halle Bachelder]

I think everyone liked you on the show. You were funny, you were charismatic, you were engaging, you were present, and you, like, made everyone. You involved everyone. Like, there was not one person. I feel like you didn't, like, touch on. Yeah, that, like, talk to. Not, like, touch on physically, but, like, you engage with every single person. That kind of brought everywhere, like, the glue.

[Andrew Vedder]

Yeah, that's nice. That's like, it's been very nice girl. She's nice, guys. Stop coming for her in my DMs. She's a good girl.

[Halle Bachelder]

I'm a great girl.

[Andrew Vedder]

Thank you, though. That is nice to hear.

[Halle Bachelder]

Like, of course.

[Andrew Vedder]

Because I tend to worry about the bad things or, like, the things I didn't say.

[Halle Bachelder]

I mean, you always, like, focus on, like, what you could have done or, like, the negative. The fewer negative comments you get. Like, you're like, okay, I'm hyper focused on that. But, like, usually the positive outweighs the negative.

[Andrew Vedder]

Yeah.

[Halle Bachelder]

Or else you wouldn't, like, have gained all those followers.

[Andrew Vedder]

Like, yeah, totally.

[Halle Bachelder]

Success.

[Andrew Vedder]

Yeah. Yeah. I was like, my biggest fear was not being accepted by the public. And to have them, like, accept me with open arms has been really cool.

[Halle Bachelder]

Yeah. Yeah, it's amazing. We're gonna do a segment, just questions. I want just the male perspective on. They're like, kind of. They're very easy questions. And then we'll be wrapping up.

[Andrew Vedder]

All right, cue the hard questions.

[Halle Bachelder]

Cue the hard questions. Have you ever soft launch with someone?

[Andrew Vedder]

I'm a hard launch guy. Like, I'm like, it's December 31st. I'm like, happy birthday, babe. I love you till the end of time. And then we break up in six months.

[Halle Bachelder]

Oh, I feel like that's kind of like a cur. I don't think I've ever hard launched.

[Andrew Vedder]

Oh, I might have invented hard launching.

[Halle Bachelder]

Like, do you like an infeed? Like, like you down on one knee?

[Andrew Vedder]

It's like, I'm passionate. So, like, when I'm into someone, I'm like, let me, like, let me wear this with pride.

[Halle Bachelder]

I like that. That's cute. What do you think the rules should be for posting your partner on social media?

[Andrew Vedder]

I think you've got to communicate about it. I don't think there's any rules as long as you're on the same page. But I will say this. I feel for the guy who doesn't like to take photos and the girl is posting him all the time.

[Halle Bachelder]

Time.

[Andrew Vedder]

Stop doing that. We don't want to watch him be uncomfortable.

[Halle Bachelder]

Yeah, because then I like people. I mean, I see a lot of influencers do that. Or you can tell, like, their boyfriend really doesn't. Like, he's in finance or something. And, like, he doesn't want to be in front of the camera or want to be involved with a huge audience. And you can tell he's like, visibly uncomfortable. But then their audience just interprets that as like, oh, he doesn't like her.

[Andrew Vedder]

Totally.

[Halle Bachelder]

And then it like, totally. I can just. I don't want anyone involved in, yeah, my relationships.

[Andrew Vedder]

I'm the same way. I. I think no rules, but you got to communicate and be on the same page about it.

[Halle Bachelder]

I like that. Do you approach girls at the bar or what are your tech.

[Andrew Vedder]

What techniques? Yeah, I've been off dating apps, like, since God knows when. So for me it's like, I approach on walks, coffee shops, every now and then. Bars, like, bars is probably the worst place to approach people. So, like, I like daytime activities where we're being healthy. People feel good. I've approached on some walks. Yeah, like, hey, I saw you walking. It was a powerful walk. Like, are you. What's up?

[Halle Bachelder]

You. That's a powerful, like, I like your stride. Yeah, I love your stride.

[Andrew Vedder]

Like, you got a good stride.

[Halle Bachelder]

I love the way you walk.

[Andrew Vedder]

Yeah, keep walking. Like, walk to the beat of your drum.

[Halle Bachelder]

Walk.

[Andrew Vedder]

You know what I mean?

[Halle Bachelder]

How do you approach someone at a coffee shop?

[Andrew Vedder]

Sometimes you're like, maybe you run into each other in the line and you start a small talk and then they go sit down. You walk up and you're like, hey, like, I saw you over here. Like, I would be disappointed in myself if I didn't come say, hi, I'm Andrew. And then like, you take it from there.

[Halle Bachelder]

That works.

[Andrew Vedder]

Yeah.

[Halle Bachelder]

Should I go to coffee shops more? I don't really do daytime activities.

[Andrew Vedder]

Go. Daytime activities are the best for meeting people. Nighttime, it's hard to meet people at night.

[Halle Bachelder]

I guess that's true.

[Andrew Vedder]

Sometimes you can meet them at a pre game and then it can escalate. I don't know if I've ever had a successful, like, approach at the bar. And it works.

[Halle Bachelder]

Maybe I think that it works better because you're like a little looser and like.

[Andrew Vedder]

But then it's like, it's dark. They're like, protecting themselves. A bunch of like, Geraldos have approached them and tried and so they're just like tired. And then you're like, hey. And they're like, you.

[Halle Bachelder]

Yeah, actually.

[Andrew Vedder]

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[Andrew Vedder]

Yeah, now I'm in LA. I love it.

[Halle Bachelder]

I'm just like, there's so many hot girls in la, but there's even not honest girls in New York.

[Andrew Vedder]

Yeah, the New York girls are like more beautiful.

[Halle Bachelder]

They dress well.

[Andrew Vedder]

But Sandy, I come from San Diego and there's a lot of beautiful girls out there too. Healthy ones.

[Halle Bachelder]

Yeah. The people in LA and San Diego or California in general, like, are definitely a lot healthier than us East Coasters.

[Andrew Vedder]

Totally. East Coasters are like low key junkies.

[Halle Bachelder]

Low key junkies? No, like, like respectfully, like high key junkies.

[Andrew Vedder]

Yeah, yeah, maybe high key. Not you, though.

[Halle Bachelder]

Not me. Never? No, never. Never.

[Andrew Vedder]

You're a queen.

[Halle Bachelder]

Have you ever had a situation where your friends don't like your girlfriend? Is that a death sentence for the relationship I have?

[Andrew Vedder]

Never. But I've had one where my sister didn't like my girlfriend.

[Halle Bachelder]

Oh, that's even worse.

[Andrew Vedder]

Oh, man, it's so bad. It's so bad. And I'm not gonna say she was right, but she was on to something. So I. I think it's important to listen, but you gotta trust your gut.

[Halle Bachelder]

I don't know, like with sisters. Not like. I mean, I have two younger brothers.

[Andrew Vedder]

Okay.

[Halle Bachelder]

Is this an older sister?

[Andrew Vedder]

Yeah, older sister.

[Halle Bachelder]

Yeah.

[Andrew Vedder]

So she's. She's like.

[Halle Bachelder]

We're like a bit more. You're judgmental, I guess. No, no, at all.

[Andrew Vedder]

Yeah.

[Halle Bachelder]

And almost like we can read. Like, they're just so perceptive to younger girls actions. Like, I would watch my brother Date these girls. And I'm like, I can read these girls like a book. Like, they're just like, that's exactly what it is. Seeing things that you're not seeing. Because I'm not. Not sleeping with them.

[Andrew Vedder]

Yeah.

[Halle Bachelder]

You know, but we're usually right.

[Andrew Vedder]

You're usually right. And, like, shout out my sister Charlotte. I love you. You were kind of right on this one. But also, you could have been a little more nice.

[Halle Bachelder]

My middle name, it's a random. I just want to throw out there.

[Andrew Vedder]

Are we flirting? Well, I love these questions. Keep them coming.

[Halle Bachelder]

No, these are good. These are good.

[Andrew Vedder]

These are good. You come up with these or you.

[Halle Bachelder]

Marshall. Shout out Marshall. Marshall, would you be okay with your partner being the proof finder? You're hippie Ish. So, like, I'm honestly shocked you'd be like, honestly.

[Andrew Vedder]

First of all, don't call me hippie Ish. That hurts. I don't know why, but it does.

[Halle Bachelder]

You called yourself hippie Is.

[Andrew Vedder]

I can do that. Okay, I'm gonna say no. Like, I feel like I would love to be the provider and, like, I want to handle. I want to. I want to be the. I want to be the ringleader, and I want to handle things financially, and that's just. Just how I want it to go.

[Halle Bachelder]

Yeah. Honestly, like, I think I would like the same.

[Andrew Vedder]

But, like, at the same time, if I fall in love with someone and they're amazing and they make more money than me, I'm not gonna. I'm not gonna call it a quits.

[Halle Bachelder]

No, it's not a deal breaker.

[Andrew Vedder]

It's not a deal breaker. But on a soul level, I would enjoy to be the breadwinner.

[Halle Bachelder]

Okay, that's a. I think that's a valid answer. Is it okay to go on your phone on a first date date?

[Andrew Vedder]

Absolutely not. If your phone is on the table, we're not going on a second date.

[Halle Bachelder]

Okay. How recently will you text a girl after a good first date?

[Andrew Vedder]

I'll text her the night. I'll text her the night of the night.

[Halle Bachelder]

When you were going on dates during the day.

[Andrew Vedder]

I do. Like, a day date. Like, let's go to the beach. Let's go on a walk, maybe let's grab some coffee. Like, something where we can, like, both be active, feel good. And it's not like.

[Halle Bachelder]

Like, you talk.

[Andrew Vedder]

I don't like dinner dates.

[Halle Bachelder]

Like, no, I don't either.

[Andrew Vedder]

It's like, we gotta spend this much time together. I gotta eat in front of you. You gotta eat.

[Halle Bachelder]

All right. I'm not Gonna lie to you. Like, if a guy made me walk on a first day, I'd be like, oh, my God, my legs hurt.

[Andrew Vedder]

Well, then we're not going on a first date anytime soon.

[Halle Bachelder]

We could bike maybe.

[Andrew Vedder]

Or, like, okay, that's a good compromise.

[Halle Bachelder]

Or like, let's.

[Andrew Vedder]

We could go on a bike and

[Halle Bachelder]

I could be in the.

[Andrew Vedder]

You, like, get on a little basket in the back and you knit.

[Halle Bachelder]

What is the thing where they trail, like, the thing on the back of a bike and toddlers in it, but it could be me knitting.

[Andrew Vedder]

Oh, I know what you mean. Like, dads ride it with their kid to get, like, donuts in the morning on a Sunday.

[Halle Bachelder]

Yeah. And like, Nantucket.

[Andrew Vedder]

Yeah, we, like, zip you in it.

[Halle Bachelder]

Yeah, it zips. It's like yellow and blue.

[Andrew Vedder]

Yeah. We don't talk the whole time. I love this for us. And you just scroll your phone. That'd be perfect.

[Halle Bachelder]

I could scroll my phone, have a Bloody Mary in the other hand.

[Andrew Vedder]

I love that.

[Halle Bachelder]

And you could be like.

[Andrew Vedder]

And I'll be.

[Halle Bachelder]

No, that could be. I think that's where we would find a good.

[Andrew Vedder]

Yeah. Yeah. Okay. I like that we're getting somewhere here.

[Halle Bachelder]

What is something non physical that will immediately turn you on?

[Andrew Vedder]

A good listener. Like, if I'm going through something, I'm spilling some whatever's on my chest and you're listening, and then you, like, reply with something that makes me feel seen and heard. Amazing. That's what I need.

[Halle Bachelder]

Something non physical that I get attracted to.

[Andrew Vedder]

Yeah, let's. I think we could. Let's dive into it.

[Halle Bachelder]

Like when a guy, like, parks the car.

[Andrew Vedder]

Oh, I like it. That's physical.

[Halle Bachelder]

Something is that physical.

[Andrew Vedder]

But I guess it's not, like, physical physical.

[Halle Bachelder]

How about like.

[Andrew Vedder]

Like when a guy handles a sitch? Like. Yeah, when a guy, like, is like, oh, all park.

[Halle Bachelder]

I always say this. Like, I have an ick. When men are, like, really rude to weight stuff. Like people that work. Hostesses, waitresses, waiters, bad tippers. Like. Like that.

[Andrew Vedder]

Yeah.

[Halle Bachelder]

So maybe on the flip side of that, maybe I just like people that are super polite and patient.

[Andrew Vedder]

Okay, I like that.

[Halle Bachelder]

Is that nice?

[Andrew Vedder]

Yeah. That's sweet. It's the sweetest thing I ever heard you say.

[Halle Bachelder]

Yeah.

[Andrew Vedder]

Flip it, clip it. What do you mean?

[Halle Bachelder]

Holly, what do you wear on first dates?

[Andrew Vedder]

My best. My best fit. But I'm gonna wear the outfit I'm most excited about at the time. And if I don't have one to be excited about, I'm going straight to the mall and I'm Getting something new.

[Halle Bachelder]

We. I'm literally the same way.

[Andrew Vedder]

You know what I mean?

[Halle Bachelder]

If I buy something, if I go shopping, like, I wear that outfit to death.

[Andrew Vedder]

Yeah.

[Halle Bachelder]

Even if it doesn't make sense.

[Andrew Vedder]

Yeah. No. Like. And there's always a point in my closet every, like, three or four months where I look at it and I go, I can't wear a single outfit in here. And then I gotta go get new ones.

[Halle Bachelder]

No. Yeah. And I look at it, I'm like, why did I ever. With that outfit.

[Andrew Vedder]

Same.

[Halle Bachelder]

We have so much in common. This is going really well.

[Andrew Vedder]

This is crazy. Who would have known? Who would have thought, holy God, we might even have the same favorite color. Let's not go there. I can only take so much.

[Halle Bachelder]

Okay, fine. Rank these for the importance in a relationship.

[Andrew Vedder]

Love. A rank.

[Halle Bachelder]

Trust, honesty, sex, communication, and comfort.

[Andrew Vedder]

Trust first.

[Halle Bachelder]

Yeah.

[Andrew Vedder]

Communication second. Sex third. What were the next two?

[Halle Bachelder]

Comfort, Honesty. Communicate.

[Andrew Vedder]

I feel like, trust and honest honesty, and then comfort. Because you don't want to be too comfortable. Like.

[Halle Bachelder]

Yeah.

[Andrew Vedder]

I think there's something powerful about your partner pushing you to be the best you.

[Halle Bachelder]

I think trust is number one for me.

[Andrew Vedder]

Trust is huge.

[Halle Bachelder]

If you don't, sex would be number two for me.

[Andrew Vedder]

Okay. I respect it.

[Halle Bachelder]

And then communication and then honesty.

[Andrew Vedder]

Okay.

[Halle Bachelder]

Comfort. But I feel like trust and honesty are, like, kind of in the same wheelhouse now.

[Andrew Vedder]

Yeah. I mean, you can't trust someone who isn't honest. So if you trust them, they're probably honest. That's why I put that a little lower on my list.

[Halle Bachelder]

Okay. We have similar lists, I think.

[Andrew Vedder]

Yeah. Similar list.

[Halle Bachelder]

How would your exes describe you?

[Andrew Vedder]

Probably, like, emotional, sweet, thoughtful, and present.

[Halle Bachelder]

I feel like that's how I would describe you. Oh, my exes would describe me as a tyrant, a disaster, an emotionally psycho, psychotic person. What else?

[Andrew Vedder]

Like, we'll leave that to them.

[Halle Bachelder]

Yeah.

[Andrew Vedder]

You know what I mean?

[Halle Bachelder]

Good relationship with any of my exes.

[Andrew Vedder]

I have a good. I have a good relationship with all them except one.

[Halle Bachelder]

What'd you do?

[Andrew Vedder]

Or what did she do?

[Halle Bachelder]

Sorry, I didn't mean to assume. What did she do?

[Andrew Vedder]

I think some people just feel the world differently. And I'm like, what does that mean? I'm soft and sweet, and she's a little bit more rugged and intense.

[Halle Bachelder]

And it was two puzzle pieces that didn't fit.

[Andrew Vedder]

Yeah, like, she loved the drama. She was like, no physical touch when we're in public. But, like, then she would go, like. Like, be touchy with other guys, and so it would, like, make me sad and go, Crazy. And then she would just be like. Almost like, shame me for feeling weird. So is.

[Halle Bachelder]

What's your language? Is the physical touch.

[Andrew Vedder]

Probably gifts, honestly. Which is. Should. Shouldn't be. Love language.

[Halle Bachelder]

Hi. Love language alert.

[Andrew Vedder]

Gifts. A love language.

[Halle Bachelder]

Yes.

[Andrew Vedder]

I think you.

[Halle Bachelder]

This is a gift.

[Andrew Vedder]

Yeah, but it doesn't make it my love language. I don't like. I'm actually here on the front line of advocating for bringing gifts off love languages. Okay, wait. These are amazing. Like, just keep them flowing.

[Halle Bachelder]

Okay, we have, like, four more.

[Andrew Vedder]

I'm learning a lot about myself.

[Halle Bachelder]

I'm learning a lot about you too.

[Andrew Vedder]

Okay. I'm learning a lot about you too.

[Halle Bachelder]

Do you think partners should have each other's locations?

[Andrew Vedder]

I'm gonna go millennial on this one and say no. I think there should be a little bit of trust, understanding, and acceptance. Should just. You don't need to know where they are. Where they are all the time. That's stressful. Like, let it go.

[Halle Bachelder]

For safety reasons, though.

[Andrew Vedder]

What? We're all safe enough.

[Halle Bachelder]

Like, I'm not. My mom still needs my location, and

[Andrew Vedder]

that's exactly what she should do. So leave it to your parents for safety. Your partner should be letting you be free.

[Halle Bachelder]

Does your mom have your location?

[Andrew Vedder]

No.

[Halle Bachelder]

Like, someone.

[Andrew Vedder]

I have, like, a group of five friends who have it. Mikey might even have it. Mikey, do you have it?

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[Halle Bachelder]

Mikey has it. I feel like Mikey's a solid guy.

[Andrew Vedder]

My buddy Mikey.

[Halle Bachelder]

Mikey's locked in over here.

[Andrew Vedder]

Yeah, he's so locked in.

[Halle Bachelder]

Mikey's. We like Mikey.

[Andrew Vedder]

We do.

[Halle Bachelder]

What is your ideal first day in la?

[Andrew Vedder]

The cop out is drinks. Like, oh, let's grab drinks. You know what a good date is? Let's go hang at the beach. Let's go read a book. Let's go.

[Halle Bachelder]

What if you were to take me out here?

[Andrew Vedder]

Let's go journal together.

[Halle Bachelder]

Oh, hell.

[Andrew Vedder]

Oh, hell, guys, let's go just hang out somewhere outside. You know what? It's a good first date. A hike.

[Halle Bachelder]

You're so la.

[Andrew Vedder]

What? That's like, a hike. A hike.

[Halle Bachelder]

Let's go rock climbing.

[Andrew Vedder]

That. I would love that. No, I actually would kind of love that.

[Halle Bachelder]

You would love that?

[Andrew Vedder]

I would love that. Because then I could find out if they can, like, get down and dirty.

[Halle Bachelder]

I actually used to love rock climbing, but, like, not.

[Andrew Vedder]

That's what I'm saying. I feel like you have an adventure girl. That's, like, inside you, I mean, and we just need to, like, like.

[Halle Bachelder]

I do karate. I'm a brown belt and karate. Know that. Oh, yeah.

[Andrew Vedder]

Swear to God.

[Halle Bachelder]

Swear on my mother's life. And I might get my black belt one of these days. I never stopped when I, like, I don't know, I did it for a long time though.

[Andrew Vedder]

Really?

[Halle Bachelder]

And then I was like, wait, I feel like this is not how you fit in in an all girls Catholic school. Girls were like, what the is wrong?

[Andrew Vedder]

You went to an all girls Catholic school? Difficult. Yeah, checks out.

[Halle Bachelder]

Checks out completely.

[Andrew Vedder]

That makes a ton of sense.

[Halle Bachelder]

It makes me move on now, actually the most sense.

[Andrew Vedder]

I also went to a Catholic school. I went for guys and girls.

[Halle Bachelder]

Yeah. I went to single sex for eight years. And then, you know, the single sex thing, like, it's tough. It's tough because it's like I didn't know how to socialize with boys properly. Like, I wasn't acclimated in like those kind of environments. So like, when I was got to college, I always say this. Like, I compare it to like caging a wild animal and then setting it free into the jungle.

[Andrew Vedder]

Okay.

[Halle Bachelder]

And like, that was like how my approach was on college. I just like, didn't know. I just like, meet out with everyone.

[Andrew Vedder]

Yeah. Well, I think that's a common thing. Like, the more sheltered you are in high school, the wilder you go in college.

[Halle Bachelder]

Yeah. And I wasn't. My parents, like, let us drink, like here and there, but. But when it came to like, guys, like, I was pretty sure you just went nuts. I had a boyfriend in high school, but that was the only experience I've ever had with a guy, ever. And then you just like, go to college. You have like so many options.

[Andrew Vedder]

There's nothing wrong with all girls school, but you gotta be honest, those girls were a little weird.

[Halle Bachelder]

I'm not weird.

[Andrew Vedder]

You're not? You came out on the other side, but you had to fight to get here.

[Halle Bachelder]

Yeah.

[Andrew Vedder]

You know, you have no hobbies.

[Halle Bachelder]

I'll be honest, it made me like a little. I have no. Yeah. No hobbies.

[Andrew Vedder]

That's what I'm like. Like.

[Halle Bachelder]

No hobbies. A weird girl went to an all

[Andrew Vedder]

girls Catholic school, but she came out okay.

[Halle Bachelder]

Guys, I came out okay.

[Andrew Vedder]

Better than okay.

[Halle Bachelder]

It probably made me like a little Saudi in college. But like, I. I got through all those phases of life.

[Andrew Vedder]

Yeah. You feel like, you know, I don't know if people give you enough credit. You're a pretty grounded individual.

[Halle Bachelder]

Yeah, I have depth, people.

[Andrew Vedder]

I do.

[Halle Bachelder]

I kind of cosplay like a. A dumb blonde on the Internet.

[Andrew Vedder]

I'm kind of like pulling a similar card for me on the Internet.

[Halle Bachelder]

For me.

[Andrew Vedder]

No, like, I'M like cosplaying like a dumb blonde as well.

[Halle Bachelder]

Yeah, it kind of just like a bit that's kind of worked. And like I'm kind of over dramatic on the Internet. But like, if you actually know me, like, I'm actually not dumb at all. Not to my own horn.

[Andrew Vedder]

Now I'm getting to know you and I know that.

[Halle Bachelder]

Yeah. Like, I. I feel like I'm pretty smart, actually.

[Andrew Vedder]

You are. And also the Internet, it's like, it's not real. You don't take it serious. So it's almost. Some people do almost best to play with it.

[Halle Bachelder]

Yeah.

[Andrew Vedder]

Like, I enjoy teasing the Internet a little bit. Like on my height.

[Halle Bachelder]

I don't. I.

[Andrew Vedder]

How tall do you think I am?

[Halle Bachelder]

Like 6:1.

[Andrew Vedder]

I'm an honest man type.

[Halle Bachelder]

5:11.

[Andrew Vedder]

I can't reveal my cards, but 6:11. 6:1 is aggressive.

[Halle Bachelder]

Is too tall. You're taller than me.

[Andrew Vedder]

Saying like, I'm not. Don't gas me up like that.

[Halle Bachelder]

Well, I'm five eight. You are five seven and a half, five eight. I'm not sure.

[Andrew Vedder]

Okay.

[Halle Bachelder]

You don't believe me?

[Andrew Vedder]

Well, I didn't know you're that tall.

[Halle Bachelder]

I think you're at least 5 11.

[Andrew Vedder]

We'll leave it there.

[Halle Bachelder]

Okay. Well, I guess I'll leave it there.

[Andrew Vedder]

I gotta remain a little bit mystery.

[Halle Bachelder]

I mean. Okay. All right. Have you ever had a date and early because it was going so horribly?

[Andrew Vedder]

Yes.

[Halle Bachelder]

What happened?

[Andrew Vedder]

You know when you're sitting there and you're pulling questions out of your ass? No. You're like. Yeah, because you're probably the one who's sitting there receiving the questions.

[Halle Bachelder]

Yeah. I probably had a guy end a day early on me because I'm just not into it.

[Andrew Vedder]

Yeah, Well, I think I was like, I had asked probably 40 questions, not a single return question. And like a bimbo. I don't know what that is.

[Halle Bachelder]

You don't know what a bimbo is? Nah, like, kind of like a dumb blonde. Like a, like kind of what we're just talking about. Like a bimbo.

[Andrew Vedder]

Nah, I'm not gonna, like, without coming at her.

[Halle Bachelder]

No depth.

[Andrew Vedder]

I guess I'm gonna know about her depth. I think it was more like she didn't have the capability to ask me questions back. And that's a huge, huge red flag.

[Halle Bachelder]

She wasn't in conversation.

[Andrew Vedder]

So eventually I was like, like, I'm gonna go because, like, I'm asking questions to a wall.

[Halle Bachelder]

I'm gonna leave right now.

[Andrew Vedder]

I'm gonna go home and watch a movie and ask it questions because It'll give me more than this.

[Halle Bachelder]

Yeah, I mean, that's always a red flag.

[Andrew Vedder]

Always a red flag.

[Halle Bachelder]

Okay, one more question.

[Andrew Vedder]

Okay.

[Halle Bachelder]

What are you looking for right now? Tell the people.

[Andrew Vedder]

What am I looking for people right now? Like on relationship wise or like in

[Halle Bachelder]

life, hit all the bases, you know,

[Andrew Vedder]

Like, I think I'm looking for like that feeling where you wake up and you feel like you're giving your all. And so I'm just trying to like lean into the opportunities I have right now and like not bullshit myself and like I'm looking for full effort, full input and maximizing the opportunities I have right now. What I want.

[Halle Bachelder]

Anything you're looking forward to?

[Andrew Vedder]

For sure. A lot of things I'm looking forward to.

[Halle Bachelder]

You're very ambiguous.

[Andrew Vedder]

A lot of things I'm looking forward to. You know what I'm looking forward to is getting off this line, figuring out if I'm talent or production. Let us know in the comments. What are you guys feeling?

[Halle Bachelder]

I think you're talent.

[Andrew Vedder]

You think I'm talent?

[Halle Bachelder]

I mean, you did so well on the show.

[Andrew Vedder]

Show. Thank you.

[Halle Bachelder]

This show and Unwell Winter Games.

[Andrew Vedder]

Thank you.

[Halle Bachelder]

And I think we can wrap it at that.

[Andrew Vedder]

We can wrap on that, guys. Cheers. Thank you for having me.

[Halle Bachelder]

Love you.

[Andrew Vedder]

Super fun. Love you too.

[Halle Bachelder]

And guys, as always, I'll see you next week.

[Andrew Vedder]

Bye, guys.

[Halle Bachelder]

Smash that. Like hit the subscribe the subscribe.

[Andrew Vedder]

Subscribe. Extra Dirty. Best podcast of my life, but it's my only one I've ever done. And that's a wrap.

[Halle Bachelder]

And that's a wrap.

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