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UFO disclosure historian and filmmaker Dean Bertram explores the modern mythology of flying saucers, the false boundary between imagination and alien encounters, and how government cover-ups and predictive programming shape our perception in episode 256 of the Far Out with Faust podcast.

Dean Bertram holds a PhD in history focused on the development of UFO belief in America and is the filmmaker behind The Shaver Mystery and the forthcoming documentary The Man Who Invented Flying Saucers. He also hosts Talking Weird on the Untold Radio Network and co-creates Home Movie Legend Trip, a new short-form series blending found footage with paranormal investigation. His work examines how science fiction, folklore, media, and government narratives have shaped modern ideas about UFOs, alien encounters, and the unknown.

In this conversation, Faust and Dean move beyond the familiar debate over whether UFOs are physical craft or interdimensional beings and into a stranger question about how alien encounters, folklore, and the imaginal realm may overlap. Drawing on Dean’s childhood visitation and recent CE5 contact experience, they examine whether high-strangeness encounters reveal something larger about consciousness and the nature of reality. The discussion then turns to whether AI and Silicon Valley are beginning to control not only the information people receive, but the imagination through which they understand what is real and possible.

In this episode:
• The Myth of UFO Disclosure: What if the greatest government cover-up isn’t the existence of UFOs, but the story we’ve been told about them?
• Who Invented Flying Saucers?: How Amazing Stories introduced millions of Americans to underground civilizations, ancient technology, and extraterrestrial visitors before the modern UFO era began
• Spielberg’s Disclosure Day: Why a Hollywood blockbuster may have delivered a more convincing version of UFO disclosure than the government’s official files
• The Interdimensional UFO Rebrand: Why are JD Vance, Tucker Carlson, and David Grusch are connecting UFO disclosure with demons, spiritual entities, and the Bible?
• Alien Encounters and Ancient Folklore: The striking parallels between alien abduction, fairy lore, Sasquatch, goblins, and beings that move between worlds
• Dean’s Childhood Abduction: What happened when a recurring childhood entity took him somewhere he could not remember until he finally fought back?
• CE5 Contact in the Wisconsin Woods: The unexplained objects Dean witnessed after using meditation, musical tones, lights, and conscious intention to initiate contact
• The Imaginal Realm: Could imagination connect human consciousness to a hidden level of reality that feels more real than ordinary experience?
• Missing UAP Insiders and Alternative 3: How a 1970s mockumentary about disappearing scientists echoes modern deaths and disappearances tied to aerospace and UFO programs
• Silicon Valley and Human Imagination: How AI algorithms may weaken independent research, creativity, and the ability to decide what is real

If the unknown has been shaping human belief all along, certainty may be the most powerful illusion of all.

Watch Dean’s new series:
https://youtube.com/@homemovielegendtrip

Check out Dean Bertram on the Untold Radio Network: https://youtube.com/@untoldradionetwork

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