Rebecca Jones has a hill she'll die on: there are no bad tropes, only poorly written ones. She put out her debut in September 2025 and already has three books in her Jolene series, plus a Gothic romance on the way, so she's earned the right to defend the love triangle. In this episode, we dig into why so many of them collapse, when a cliché becomes a comfort instead of a crutch, and what gets lost when clean YA is treated like a rebellion.

In This Episode

* There are no bad tropes, only poorly written ones: Rebecca’s whole thesis, and why a love triangle works only when a character actually makes a choice.

* How writers botch the love triangle: The most common failure is telling us two people are in love without ever earning it. We talk about the Wednesday dance that should have built a couple and instead just told us one existed.

* Insta-love, chemistry, and flirting that isn’t cheesy: Insta-love can work when there’s a real foundation under it, from Phantom’s Raoul and Christine to the sly, layered flirting between Catherine and Henry in Northanger Abbey.

* The ultimate love triangle: Rebecca’s pick for the trope done right is Gone With the Wind, and why The Empire Strikes Back borrowed its romantic DNA.

* Clichés, killing your darlings, and the one-bed problem: A deliberate cliché can feel like comfort; a lazy one just muddies the book. Plus what “kill your darlings” actually means, and a great story about a scholarly Regency client whose one-bed scene ignored the scandal it would have caused.

* The state of clean YA: On-page spice creeping into books aimed at teens, YA quietly written for grown women, and the clean movement Rebecca is glad to be part of.

* Meet Jolene: Ballet dancer by day, zombie-slaying gamer by night, with a geeky best friend and a scene-stealing chaos-agent of a sister.

* The Gothic turn: Rebecca’s period horror romance: 1899 France, a possessive ghost, and Phantom of the Opera with the opera swapped out for something a lot darker.

* The indie author business: An aggressive release pace as a full-time writer, the Kindle Unlimited versus going-wide money question, why the best marketing might just be the next book, and the metadata work that landed her next to Lynn Painter and Rachel Lynn Solomon.

* The worst writing advice you keep hearing: How “show, don’t tell” gets weaponized, and the danger of running your slow-burn romance through a chatbot that only knows how to pace a thriller screenplay.

* Books for boys, and content warnings: The gap in the market and Rebecca’s idea for a space book written with her son, plus why she came around on content warnings and a love letter to the website Does the Dog Die.

Guest Links

* Read the Jolene series: https://amzn.to/48NUUQG

* Website: rebeccajonesbooks.com

* Facebook: Rebecca Jones Author

* TikTok: @rebecca.jones776

* X: @NovelistRJones

Kristin’s Links

* Editing Services: nonsensefreeeditor.com

* Newsletter: https://www.fictionalinfluence.com

* YouTube: https://youtube.com/@nonsensefreekristin

Timestamps

00:00 - Meet the Rebecca Jones.

02:09 - Why Triangles Fail.

02:51 - Insta Love Done Right.

03:57 - Writing Better Flirting.

05:26 - Best Love Triangle Example.

06:13 - Tropes vs Cliches.

07:17 - Fixing What Fails.

08:09 - One Bed Problem Solving.

09:30 - Beta Readers Power.

10:13 - State of YA Today.

12:25 - Gothic Romance Shift.

14:18 - Writing Since Fifteen.

16:57 - Rapid Release Routine.

17:50 - Kindle Unlimited Reality.

20:08 - Indie vs Traditional.

20:54 - Marketing Mindset Shift.

21:43 - Metadata And Keywords.

23:34 - Sisterhood On The Page.

25:19 - Belle Époque Gothic Romance.

26:01 - Bad Writing Advice.

27:19 - AI Tips And Nuance.

29:41 - Books For Boy Readers.

32:57 - Ideal Reader And Comfort.

34:10 - Content Warnings Debate.

36:21 - New Release Teaser.

38:05 - Tropes And Farewell.

About This Podcast

Nonsense-Free Kristin is where independent authors and creators learn to build their platforms, master their craft, and create on their own terms—without begging for permission from gatekeepers who hate them.

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