Broadway and DUMBO

Summary

Podcast Summary: "For Love and Chocolate" - Episode "Broadway and DUMBO"

Release Date: October 30, 2024

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Introduction to Bruce and Terry Nozick

In this heartwarming episode of the For Love and Chocolate podcast, hosts Tommy and Tara Gallop introduce listeners to their dear friends, Bruce and Terry Nozick. With over three decades of friendship, Bruce and Terry exemplify enduring love and partnership, making them perfect guests to share their romantic journey.

The Meeting and Early Relationship

Bruce and Terry's love story began in the vibrant neighborhood of Dumbo, Brooklyn. Set up by their mutual friend Cheryl, their initial meeting at a dinner party did not spark immediate romance. However, fate had different plans.

Terry Nozick [11:06]: "They colluded to set you guys up."

It wasn't until a year and a half later, during Terry's off-Broadway play, that the real connection ignited. As they reconnected amidst the throes of Terry's theatrical performance, the chemistry between them became undeniable.

Bruce Nozick [12:48]: "There was electricity in the air."

The Wedding and Early Challenges

Their whirlwind romance led to a spontaneous engagement on Valentine's Day 1991. Terry proposed to Bruce in a memorable and quirky fashion, complete with a bolo tie, showcasing their playful dynamic.

Terry Nozick [19:25]: "I came in and I got down on my knee and I proposed to her with my bow tie."

The couple faced a significant challenge when Bruce secured a role in the film "Hit the Dutchman", necessitating a four-month stint in Moscow amidst political turmoil. This abrupt move tested their commitment and resilience as a newly married couple.

Bruce Nozick [23:05]: "It was really a rough period in Moscow."

Life in Russia: Love Amidst Turmoil

Bruce's relocation to Moscow coincided with the 1991 coup attempt, plunging the country into uncertainty. Communication between the couple was limited to fax machines and scheduled phone calls, adding strain to their relationship.

Terry Nozick [25:13]: "Couldn't text. There was none of that."

Despite the hardships, Terry provided unwavering support, highlighting the strength of their bond. Bruce's experience in Russia not only tested but ultimately strengthened their marriage.

Bruce Nozick [25:33]: "We were young and naive and in love. It all turned out okay."

Moving to Los Angeles and Building a Family

Upon Bruce's return, the couple made the pivotal decision to relocate to Los Angeles in 1992, laying down roots in a city teeming with opportunities. Over the years, Bruce's acting career flourished, featuring roles in popular TV shows like "Weeds" and "Big Little Lies". Meanwhile, Terry pursued her passion for wine writing, eventually retiring to explore her interests in yoga and travel.

Their partnership blossomed with the arrival of their two sons, Lucas and Will, who have grown into happy, accomplished individuals. Navigating parenthood presented its own set of challenges, particularly concerning their eldest son's struggles, but these trials further solidified Bruce and Terry's unity.

Bruce Nozick [32:43]: "We stuck with each other through the tough times, and we came together in a way that helped our boys and helped us."

Secrets to a Lasting Relationship

Bruce and Terry attribute their enduring love to several key factors:

1. Separate Interests and Mutual Support: Both partners maintain their individual passions, fostering personal growth without dependency.

   Bruce Nozick [28:42]: "We both have our separate interests and we both can live our separate lives and then come together."

2. Effective Communication: Open dialogues, especially during conflicts, help in resolving tensions and preventing misunderstandings.

   Terry Nozick [35:25]: "Take a breath, take a step, and it's going to be different."

3. Shared Laughter and Joy: Maintaining a sense of humor and finding joy in each other’s company keeps the relationship vibrant.

   Bruce Nozick [35:20]: "The first thing that comes to mind for me is just laugh with each other."

Advice for Other Couples

Drawing from their rich experiences, Bruce and Terry offer invaluable advice to couples seeking to nurture their relationships:

• Embrace Individuality: Support each other's personal growth and interests to maintain a balanced partnership.

• Navigate Tough Times Together: Use challenges as opportunities to strengthen your bond rather than letting them drive a wedge between you.

• Keep Humor Alive: Regularly share laughter and lighthearted moments to keep the relationship lively and enjoyable.

• Communicate Openly: Address issues head-on with empathy and understanding, ensuring both partners feel heard and valued.

Terry Nozick [35:27]: "It's okay to have tension. It'll pass."

Conclusion

Bruce and Terry Nozick's story is a testament to the power of love, resilience, and mutual respect. From their serendipitous meeting in Dumbo to overcoming international challenges and raising a loving family in Los Angeles, their journey embodies the essence of enduring romance. Their insights provide listeners with both inspiration and practical wisdom for fostering lasting relationships.

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Notable Quotes from the Episode:

• Bruce Nozick [25:33]: "We were young and naive and in love. It all turned out okay."

• Terry Nozick [35:25]: "Take a breath, take a step, and it's going to be different."

• Bruce Nozick [35:20]: "The first thing that comes to mind for me is just laugh with each other."

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For more sweet stories of love and chocolate, tune into future episodes of the For Love and Chocolate podcast.

Transcript

[Mr. Truffles]

From deep in the heart of Beverly Hills, you found for love and chocolate with Mr. And Mrs. Truffles. Woo.

[Mrs. Truffles]

Welcome back to the show, everyone.

[Mr. Truffles]

Welcome back to our spooky show.

[Mrs. Truffles]

Is it spooky?

[Mr. Truffles]

It's spooky and scary.

[Mrs. Truffles]

Spooky Fun.

[Mr. Truffles]

It is spooky fun. My little pumpkin.

[Terry Nozick]

Yes.

[Mr. Truffles]

Guess what, gang? Halloween is upon us.

[Mrs. Truffles]

Can you believe we're already at Halloween?

[Mr. Truffles]

I can't believe it. And our shop. I hope everyone that lives closer, even if you're coming from far, far away, come visit our beautiful little shop. Because come this time, it's just decorated so beautifully.

[Mrs. Truffles]

We have a lot of cute things for Halloween.

[Mr. Truffles]

We have vampires.

[Mrs. Truffles]

We have hollow chocolate ghosts.

[Mr. Truffles]

We have delicious ghosts.

[Mrs. Truffles]

And we have little witches and vampires. And paper ghosts.

[Mr. Truffles]

Which? Witch.

[Mrs. Truffles]

Witch. Witches. Which we have the chocolate flat witches.

[Mr. Truffles]

Yep.

[Mrs. Truffles]

Which we have the Pringling box witches.

[Mr. Truffles]

So many witches.

[Mrs. Truffles]

We have the truffle box witches.

[Mr. Truffles]

Witchapalooza.

[Mrs. Truffles]

And of course, we have those cute little paper ghosts. Those are my favorite.

[Mr. Truffles]

I know. And they're all holding pumpkins. But enough about Halloween, which will come and go. We also have the big holiday season upon us.

[Mrs. Truffles]

Well, yes, and before we get deep into the holidays, we're going to get back out on the road a little bit. Do a little more camping.

[Mr. Truffles]

That's right. We're going to get back on the road and we're going to probably do a couple postcards from the road.

[Mrs. Truffles]

Yeah, we'll drop everybody a couple of postcards from the road and collect some more fun interviews with romantic couples while we're out.

[Mr. Truffles]

Yeah, it's really going to be our last chance to get on the road before we get into the whole hubub of Thanksgiving and Christmas which is upon us. Can you believe it?

[Mrs. Truffles]

Yes. It is almost time for the holidays. And it's almost time for something else.

[Mr. Truffles]

Oh, is it?

[Mrs. Truffles]

I think you know what time it is.

[Mr. Truffles]

Okay. Mailbag.

[Mrs. Truffles]

Well, Mr. Truffles, what do we have in our mailbag today?

[Mr. Truffles]

Well, let's see. Mrs. Truffles. Here we go. Dear Mr. And Mrs. Truffles, I so enjoy listening to your podcast week after week. My husband and I have been together for 22 years and we have a wonderful marriage. We're recent empty nesters, but keep our love full with our two fur babies. And even though my husband and I are still very affectionate with each other, every morning when I wake up, he's snuggling the dogs and I feel left out when we're on vacation without them. Our love life is as strong as it's ever been. I would hate to make the dog sleep without us, but I miss the morning snuggles that I've grown so accustomed to. Sincerely jealous Jenny. Well, that's something, Mrs. Truffles, isn't it?

[Mrs. Truffles]

Well, I think Jenny has a lot to be jealous of.

[Mr. Truffles]

You do?

[Mrs. Truffles]

Yeah. Yeah, But I think the best solution for Jenny would be just to get another dog. Oh, yeah. Then she has someone to snuggle in the morning, too.

[Mr. Truffles]

I. You know what I'm gonna say? Get a giant slingshot and you can maybe jettison the dogs out of the bed in the morning when you want to snuggle your husband.

[Mrs. Truffles]

Well, now I'm gonna call the animal protective services on you.

[Mr. Truffles]

I think. I think there. So you have two choices, Jenny. You can get another dog. Or in the morning, maybe you could just gently pull your dogs out from your husband's embrace and put them in their dog bed. And then you can have snuggle time, too. Everybody gets snuggle time. What do you think?

[Mrs. Truffles]

I think another dog is the solution.

[Mr. Truffles]

All right.

[Mrs. Truffles]

I just don't have enough dogs.

[Mr. Truffles]

We're just going to agree to disagree. Okay? What else do we have in the mail bag today, Mrs. Truffles?

[Mrs. Truffles]

Well, Mr. Truffles, it looks like we have a letter here from somebody called Rudy. Dear Mr. And Mrs. Truffles, I write to you today with a heavy heart. Patsy, the woman that I adore, the love of my life, has given up on me and my bad behavior. If she would just give me one more chance, I would make her the happiest woman alive. I know she listens to your show every week, and I'm hoping you might appeal to her for me. Ever so sincerely, Rudy.

[Mr. Truffles]

Hmm. Do you think we can help him, Mrs. Truffles?

[Mrs. Truffles]

Oh, Rudy. Well, I'm not sure he deserves another chance, but it sounds like he really wants one. Rudy, this is for you.

[Mr. Truffles]

Sorry now who's sorry now? Whose heart is aching for breaking each fowl who's sad and blue who's crying too Just like I cried over you Right to the end Just like a friend I tried to warn you somehow but you had your way now you must pay I'm glad that you're so reed out Right to the end Just like a friend I tried to warn you somehow but you had your way now you must pay I'm glad that you're sorry now.

[Mrs. Truffles]

Well, Rudy, I hope that you are very sorry now. And Patsy, maybe you can find a little forgiveness in your heart. So, Mr. Truffles, why don't we tell everyone all about the romantic couple we have coming up next?

[Mr. Truffles]

I would love to, Mrs. Truffles. We have our dear friends, Bruce and Terry Nozick. Now, Bruce has been a professional actor for over 40 years. A graduate from NYU and married in Yonkers, New York, he and his wife Terry moved to Los Angeles in 1992. He's done hundreds of TV appearances, including Weeds, a recurring role which he beat me out on and I've clearly let go of. Also Big Little Lies and the upcoming season on Fire Country. He loves live theater, did five plays in a row last year, including Fetch Clay, make man at the Kirk Douglas Theater, which we saw and loved. In the last 10 years, he's become one of the top audition coaches in la. His crowning achievement, however, is his strong marriage and his two successful, happy sons, Lucas and Will. Terry Nozick is a wine writer who spent decades working in publishing and corporate communications and achieved a level four diploma in wine and spirits from the WSET. She worked nearly 10 years in wine retail and is now happily retired, attending food, wine and travel events around the world where she gets to wander through vineyards, taste wine, and then write about her experiences for her own blog, truthanwine.net. she's currently waiting for her yin yoga certification and plans to teach classes geared toward the aging community. And we will be sitting with these two lovers when we come right back with more for love and chocolate. For over 40 years, Toysher has been a staple in the Beverly Hills community. Like so many other families in the community, our family has had a long standing love affair with toysher chocolates. Over the years, we formed traditions and memories around these extraordinary Swiss chocolates and the enchanting wonderland of fantasy truffle boxes inside our store. Today, our family is proud to be carrying on the Teuther tradition in Beverly Hills.

[Mrs. Truffles]

Well, welcome back.

[Mr. Truffles]

Welcome back, Everybody. You know, Mrs. Truffles, I'm going to tell you something.

[Mrs. Truffles]

Please tell me something.

[Mr. Truffles]

What is so special about this next couple that we have on? Okay, so back on, I believe it was August 8, 2020. I married your sweet self, didn't I?

[Mrs. Truffles]

We got married on August 8, 2020.

[Mr. Truffles]

We did.

[Mrs. Truffles]

In the middle of the locker.

[Mr. Truffles]

That's right. And it was. It was you and me and our sweet friend Devin and our little puppy Phineas. Right. And we got married. And our first stop coming home was the wine house on Cotner in West la.

[Mrs. Truffles]

We wanted a little celebratory champagne.

[Mr. Truffles]

Yeah, didn' And I'm gonna. I'm getting like Goosebumps thinking about it. But. But the first face we saw as a married couple was Terry Nozick, who gave us the biggest hug and went in the back and brought us the most beautiful bottle of champagne.

[Mrs. Truffles]

Beautiful. She was the closest thing we had to an attendee at our wedding. I think so.

[Mr. Truffles]

I think so. So bringing it full circle, we have Bruce and Terry Nozick. Welcome to the show, guys.

[Bruce Nozick]

Thank you.

[Terry Nozick]

Thank you so much.

[Mr. Truffles]

That really was such a special moment, wasn't it? I really. I'm getting, like, choked up thinking about it.

[Mrs. Truffles]

It's very sweet. But you know what I'd like to talk about, please? Bruce and Terry.

[Mr. Truffles]

Okay, fair enough. Fair enough.

[Mrs. Truffles]

So how long have you guys been married?

[Bruce Nozick]

33 years.

[Mrs. Truffles]

33 years.

[Bruce Nozick]

September 7th.

[Mrs. Truffles]

September 7th was 33 years.

[Terry Nozick]

Right. And we were married. We were together three years before that.

[Mrs. Truffles]

Okay. Wow.

[Terry Nozick]

How is it even possible? I mean, seriously.

[Mrs. Truffles]

I know. Especially because you both look like teenagers.

[Mr. Truffles]

You're just kids. Straight out of American Graffiti, these two.

[Terry Nozick]

I love that movie.

[Mrs. Truffles]

So tell us, how did you two very first meet?

[Terry Nozick]

Well, we actually were set up by my sister and a very dear mutual friend of ours.

[Mrs. Truffles]

They colluded to set you guys up.

[Terry Nozick]

They did. I mean, so Cheryl, our friend Cheryl had an apartment in. What's that area of Brooklyn called?

[Bruce Nozick]

Dumbo.

[Terry Nozick]

Dumbo. Which is.

[Mrs. Truffles]

There's an area of Brooklyn known as Dumbo.

[Terry Nozick]

Yeah. What does that stand for again?

[Bruce Nozick]

It stands for down under the Manhattan Bridge overpass.

[Mrs. Truffles]

Oh, of course. Dumbo.

[Terry Nozick]

So she had a dinner party, and everybody at the dinner party were couples except for Terry and I. So it was clear that they were, you know, thinking, oh, this would be a good setup.

[Mr. Truffles]

Yeah.

[Bruce Nozick]

And we met and we just kind of went, eh. Saw each other.

[Terry Nozick]

It's true.

[Mrs. Truffles]

Really. There was no immediate magic that night.

[Bruce Nozick]

I mean, we were. We. We were both rebounding from other relationships, and it was a year and a half later where we actually re met.

[Terry Nozick]

Yeah. This is funny, though. I was doing a play in New York, a Shayna Matle west side Arts Theater. It was a big off Broadway hit. You know, Melissa Gilbert was in it with me, and, you know, it was. I was in it for a year. So we're in for a long time. And this mutual friend of ours, Cheryl, who had put us together a year and a half earlier, wanted to come and see the show, and Terry wanted to see the show. So Terry came with Cheryl to see the show.

[Mr. Truffles]

But did Terry know that you were in it?

[Bruce Nozick]

I did. And Bruce was having dinner at Marvin's this restaurant on 9th Avenue around the.

[Terry Nozick]

Corner from the theater.

[Mr. Truffles]

Yeah.

[Bruce Nozick]

And I said, oh, I'll meet you there. So I walked into the restaurant and there was Cheryl and there was Bruce, and it was electricity in the air.

[Terry Nozick]

And my mouth just went, oh, my God. And at some point during the dinner, Terri went to the bathroom and I said to Cheryl, who is. Why didn't you ever introduce me to this woman? And she goes, you met her a year and a half ago. I was like, what? I didn't even remember meeting her, but it was like we were in different places and it just went. And it was just like. That was it.

[Mrs. Truffles]

Your heart had healed from your breakups and you were ready to dive back in again.

[Terry Nozick]

And we were. Yeah, we'd grown and we were different for whatever reason, but it was like.

[Mrs. Truffles]

And what were your ages at the time?

[Bruce Nozick]

I am four years. Okay. Just so we know, I'm four years older than my husband.

[Terry Nozick]

Cougar Town.

[Bruce Nozick]

I was 31, maybe, or 32.

[Terry Nozick]

So we got. Oh, it was 88. It was 88. So I was 28.

[Mr. Truffles]

Yeah.

[Terry Nozick]

And you were 32.

[Mr. Truffles]

Wow.

[Terry Nozick]

That's right.

[Mrs. Truffles]

Okay. Yeah. So Cougar.

[Mr. Truffles]

Cougar.

[Bruce Nozick]

I've never worn that before.

[Mr. Truffles]

That's so interesting because I've only known you two because I have known you. What is it? How many years?

[Mrs. Truffles]

30.

[Terry Nozick]

30 years I've listened to the show before. There's a lot of that.

[Mrs. Truffles]

There seems to be a kind of a theme here.

[Mr. Truffles]

But what I so love is, you know, I've known you all these years, but obviously didn't know you when you lived in New York together. And so just to hear things like when I was in Broadway, when we were in Midtown, when we came into these restaurants, it paints such a beautiful picture, right? And New York, sorry, in your 20s, early 30s is the best, right? To fall in love in New York when it's such a magical time.

[Bruce Nozick]

Let me do a plug though, please, for where we met. Corner, it was called. What's it called?

[Terry Nozick]

West Bank Cafe.

[Bruce Nozick]

West Bank Cafe, which is currently one of the oldest running Broadway ish theaters. And, well, there's a theater downstairs, restaurant upstairs. West Bank Cafe is an amazing place. They're currently fighting to stay alive. The Broadway community is rallying behind this restaurant. And for us, it is such a meaningful place.

[Mrs. Truffles]

Maybe you should do a little commercial for them right now.

[Mr. Truffles]

Yes, the West Bank Cafe, today and every day.

[Bruce Nozick]

That's where we had our first date.

[Mrs. Truffles]

So you were coming to see him in a play. You guys came upon each other at Dinner before the play. You're not counting that as the first date?

[Terry Nozick]

No.

[Mrs. Truffles]

What transpired between there and the first date?

[Terry Nozick]

So there's two very funny little side stories. The night that Terry came to the show, the woman playing my wife was out that night. And so Tandy Cronin was in the show, which was Jessica Tandy and Hume Cronin's daughter. They named her Tandy Cronin.

[Mr. Truffles]

Cute.

[Terry Nozick]

So she was playing my wife. That night, Jessica, Tandy and Tandy Cronin came to the show, and they brought their friend, Sigourney Weaver. Now, Terry, which I've learned after 36 years, one of her pet peeves is going to a movie or a theater performance where there's a tall person sitting in front of her because she's not a tall person.

[Bruce Nozick]

Five foot two.

[Terry Nozick]

Yeah. Guess who sat in front of Terry.

[Mr. Truffles]

Sigourney Weaver.

[Bruce Nozick]

Yes.

[Terry Nozick]

Right in front of her. So that was funny. And the other little story is I had a date that night after the play. I had a date to go see the movie Big, which had just come out, and it was a midnight showing, and I had a date with this woman that I had had a crush on for years, that I went to NYU with. And I finally got a date with her, and I'm at the movie with her, and all I could think about was Terry, and all I could think about was her. And so the next day, I called.

[Bruce Nozick]

Her, and I picked up the phone, and I was like, hey, Bruce. He was gonna call me. I just knew. We ended up making a date that night.

[Terry Nozick]

I think that night after my play, we met at the West Bank. I think that was our first. Yeah. Then one of our friends.

[Bruce Nozick]

Then we went to Shakespeare in the park.

[Terry Nozick]

And then.

[Bruce Nozick]

And then the rest was history. We just stayed together.

[Mr. Truffles]

That night that you had the dinner together, was there definite fire and heat and. Oh, yeah, it was on. It was on.

[Terry Nozick]

It was on for sure. Yes. And my sister says to me, so, you know, Terry's a little older than you, and she's serious. You know, you can't. You can't mess around with her. You can't just be casual with her, like, just so you know. And I was like, no problem. I mean, I was all in at the beginning.

[Bruce Nozick]

He took a couple of steps backward during our courting period, and I finally just had to put my foot down.

[Mr. Truffles]

And.

[Bruce Nozick]

Oh, yeah, we went to therapy together.

[Terry Nozick]

Because I couldn't commit. I couldn't commit.

[Mr. Truffles]

But it was just about him not being able to commit.

[Terry Nozick]

It was.

[Mr. Truffles]

You were the one, well, she needed.

[Terry Nozick]

She was ready to start thinking about children. And so.

[Mrs. Truffles]

And rightfully so.

[Mr. Truffles]

Yes.

[Terry Nozick]

And so she couldn't hang around.

[Mr. Truffles]

Right.

[Terry Nozick]

Wait, this guy was like, I don't know. And yeah. She basically, in therapy, said, I'm done. I'm done unless you come in. And then I was like, don't go. And then everything turned.

[Bruce Nozick]

You must remember that this was in the late 80s and that is when that study came out that said a woman over 35 who hasn't had children has a snowballs chance in hell.

[Mr. Truffles]

Oh, getting pregnant.

[Bruce Nozick]

You know, I mean, it was a crazy stupid period, but I was really aware of my ticking.

[Mr. Truffles]

Yeah.

[Mrs. Truffles]

I mean, yes, study aside, your clock is ticking down. And even if that's not entirely true, it does start to get pretty hard by 40 if you've never been pregnant before and had any children.

[Terry Nozick]

Yeah. And if you're not in a relationship at that point.

[Mrs. Truffles]

Yeah.

[Terry Nozick]

If you're not in a committed relationship, that makes it even more difficult.

[Mrs. Truffles]

And also, you don't want to wait till you're 40 to have a baby.

[Bruce Nozick]

I mean, I waited long enough. I just remember being in therapy with him and saying, you know what? If I'm not gonna do this with you, I need to move on and find someone else to do it with. I think that Bruce, he got this scared look in his eye like a deer in the headlights, and he realized that he was going to commit.

[Mr. Truffles]

So you've been dating now, you've been in couples therapy. The hammer. Living together. The hammer has been thrown down. And so there was a proposal.

[Terry Nozick]

I got a job in Atlanta at the Alliance Theater doing a play. A mutual friend of ours was in another play there, Matt Servito.

[Mr. Truffles]

Matt Servito, yes.

[Terry Nozick]

Matt was doing a different play and we became very good friends. And Matt was married to his first wife at the time.

[Mr. Truffles]

Okay.

[Terry Nozick]

And, you know, was a big proponent of marriage. And I was confiding with him that I wanted to propose to Terry. When she came down, he took me to an antique market because Terry loved antiques and opals. And I found this fabulous ring. And I was like, oh, I guess this is the engagement ring. I guess I'm gonn. When Terry came down, that's when I proposed.

[Bruce Nozick]

And yeah, we went to a restaurant. It was Valentine's Day. Then we got back to the apartment. We were watching LA Law. That was the show back then. And he disappeared. At one point he came back and he was wearing a bowl of tie over his T shirt. And I was like, well, this is weird.

[Mrs. Truffles]

Okay, what year is this?

[Terry Nozick]

91.

[Bruce Nozick]

Okay, 91.

[Mrs. Truffles]

No judgments.

[Bruce Nozick]

Valentine's Day, 1991.

[Mr. Truffles]

The year of the bolo tie.

[Bruce Nozick]

Okay.

[Terry Nozick]

And I actually think I might have put on a sport coat also over my T shirt with the bow tie.

[Mrs. Truffles]

It's getting better by the minute.

[Terry Nozick]

And I was very nervous and I was in the bedroom, she was in the living room. She didn't know what was going on, you know? And I mean, I'm laughing and crying and she's like, what's going on in there? And then I came in and I got down on my knee and I proposed to her with my boa tie, with this ring that I bought.

[Mrs. Truffles]

Were you wearing a hat?

[Terry Nozick]

No. Okay.

[Mrs. Truffles]

I wasn't wearing a hat, just a bolo tie. But it was.

[Terry Nozick]

It was a very.

[Mr. Truffles]

Please have video or a picture of this.

[Terry Nozick]

Absolutely no. They've been burned.

[Mr. Truffles]

Oh, my God.

[Mrs. Truffles]

Thank God. There should be no evidence or ever another utterance.

[Mr. Truffles]

She's like, I guess we could do.

[Terry Nozick]

Yeah.

[Mrs. Truffles]

She's looking at the calendar going, exactly how long till I turn 35?

[Bruce Nozick]

I was happy.

[Mrs. Truffles]

Okay, so from. From there, what happened next?

[Terry Nozick]

It happened at about the two and a half year mark. So we knew we had to set a date, and we did. We set a date of September 14, six months prior. We geared our sights at getting married on September 14th. My sister's an artist and she made invitations for us. I knew I had the right person because six weeks before our wedding date, I got a job as an actor. Matt Servito had helped me get this particular job. And I had to go to Russia.

[Mr. Truffles]

Mad Dog call and hit the Dutchman.

[Terry Nozick]

Right, Hit the Dutchman and Mad Dog call and literally I had to go to Russia three days before our wedding.

[Mr. Truffles]

Oh, what, for months? Right.

[Terry Nozick]

It was like four months.

[Mr. Truffles]

Four month gig.

[Terry Nozick]

So we managed to move our wedding up a week. Oh, six weeks before the wedding. Wow.

[Mrs. Truffles]

Where did you get married?

[Bruce Nozick]

We got married in Yonkers, New York, at a Victorian. Beautiful, huge Victorian house that was. They rented it out to us overlooking the Hudson River. I just wanted to get married overlooking the Hudson River.

[Terry Nozick]

Yeah. Yeah, it was gorgeous.

[Bruce Nozick]

It was really pretty.

[Mr. Truffles]

So you moved it up a week, six weeks before.

[Terry Nozick]

Correct.

[Mr. Truffles]

Invitations went out again?

[Terry Nozick]

No, no, we hadn't sent them out. We had them. We had to cross out the 14.

[Mr. Truffles]

Stop it.

[Bruce Nozick]

And put a seven in.

[Mr. Truffles]

So they're not going to save the date that went out. It was simply.

[Mrs. Truffles]

People didn't used to do that.

[Terry Nozick]

Yeah, yeah. It wasn't a thing. Yeah. But we changed the Date, literally six weeks before.

[Mr. Truffles]

Oh, my God. That's.

[Mrs. Truffles]

Wow.

[Mr. Truffles]

And everyone came.

[Terry Nozick]

They all came pretty much.

[Mr. Truffles]

How big was the wedding?

[Terry Nozick]

80 people. 80 people? Yeah. Yeah.

[Mrs. Truffles]

Perfect.

[Terry Nozick]

And then we went to New Paltz for a couple of days and.

[Mr. Truffles]

New pals. Is that New England?

[Terry Nozick]

It's upstate New York.

[Mr. Truffles]

Okay.

[Terry Nozick]

And then I got on a plane and flew to Russia for four months, but Terry joined me for.

[Mr. Truffles]

For how long? For a couple weeks.

[Bruce Nozick]

I sort of became a widow four days after my wedding. That's what it felt like at the time. We were living out in Queens and I was commuting into New York City every day. I felt really left behind. I was really unhappy.

[Mrs. Truffles]

To start your new life as a married couple.

[Bruce Nozick]

I agree. And then. It's not like he was having that grand old time over there. This was literally a couple of months after the coup happened in Russia.

[Mrs. Truffles]

The Russian coup attempt of August 1991 happened when communist hardliners and military elites attempted to overthrow Gorbachev and his reforms. However, the turmoil led to the central government in Moscow losing influence, ultimately resulting in many republics proclaiming independence.

[Bruce Nozick]

So Russia, Moscow specifically, was not a very friendly, Lovely place to be.

[Mr. Truffles]

Wow.

[Mrs. Truffles]

So they're doing movie production in Russia even before the coup?

[Terry Nozick]

Well, this was. Yeah, yeah. In 91. It was right after the coup attempt. The producer was co producing with a Russian producer. And because it was cheap and we used the streets of Moscow as the streets of old New York.

[Mrs. Truffles]

Beautiful.

[Terry Nozick]

There were these gangster movies. That's why I knew I had the right person, though, is because she's not in the business at all. And yet she went with this flow, as difficult as it was. Yeah, she was supportive and, you know.

[Mrs. Truffles]

Just a girl in love.

[Terry Nozick]

Yes. And then when we were there, we decided that we would move to Los Angeles when I came back, and that's.

[Mr. Truffles]

Exactly what we did.

[Mrs. Truffles]

Yeah.

[Bruce Nozick]

He came back from Moscow a shell of a human being. It was. I think he dropped about 15 pounds, 20 pounds. Food was hard to come by at that time. It was a really rough period in Moscow.

[Mrs. Truffles]

So you were shooting all through the whole tumultuous period of.

[Terry Nozick]

Yeah, I was in Red Square for the first post Communist Russia. I was in Red Square for the first New Year's Eve.

[Mrs. Truffles]

So what year was this?

[Terry Nozick]

91 to 92.

[Mrs. Truffles]

Wow.

[Terry Nozick]

Crazy. Yeah.

[Mrs. Truffles]

So the Berlin Wall came down in what, like 89?

[Bruce Nozick]

Yeah, yeah, exactly. So, yeah, it was a trying first few months to a marriage.

[Mr. Truffles]

Yeah.

[Bruce Nozick]

We communicated with each other via fax machine. Our kids find this hard to believe, that that was the only way we could communicate with each other was weekly fax to each other.

[Terry Nozick]

91 and in 91. And you made an appointment with an operator to make a call to the United States. And it usually would be at 3 in the morning or something. So I would be able to call very infrequently when my appointment time came up. It was very weird.

[Mr. Truffles]

Why don't you just FaceTime each other?

[Mrs. Truffles]

The kids want to know. I don't understand.

[Terry Nozick]

Couldn't text. There was none of that.

[Mr. Truffles]

Wow.

[Bruce Nozick]

I don't know if that's good or bad, but it was kind of romantic. We can look back on it now and go, boy. We were young and naive and in love. It all turned out okay.

[Mrs. Truffles]

So you joined him in Russia.

[Bruce Nozick]

A few weeks into it, I went over and spent about two weeks.

[Terry Nozick]

We traveled to St. Peter's we got.

[Bruce Nozick]

On a roach infested train and we had a sleeper car that we shared with some Azerbaijani refugees who offered us some of their food. And then we got to an apartment in St. Petersburg that someone on the cast loaned us. It literally was the most disgusting apartment I've ever been in.

[Mr. Truffles]

Oh, my God.

[Bruce Nozick]

And I've been some pretty bad apartments in New York City. But this was horrible. We got to see amazing, interesting, far out weird things that not too many people got to see.

[Mrs. Truffles]

Wow. Have you written your memoirs?

[Bruce Nozick]

No.

[Terry Nozick]

And Terry's not an actress, but they put her in the movie. They made her up. It was like 1920s. She became my. I played Dutch Schultz and she became my gangster mall for a day.

[Mrs. Truffles]

What's the name of the film?

[Terry Nozick]

Hit the Dutchman.

[Mrs. Truffles]

Hit the Dutchman. Well, I know what we're doing tonight.

[Terry Nozick]

Terry was in a booth in a restaurant next to me and we have a great picture at home of the two of us dancing in costume, in makeup, black and white, sepia tone picture.

[Mr. Truffles]

That will be featured on our website.

[Mrs. Truffles]

I hope so.

[Bruce Nozick]

I can say that I was 35 years old. I look pretty cute.

[Terry Nozick]

She was so I look pretty cute. She's still pretty cute.

[Mrs. Truffles]

I'll say. Look at those dimples. I mean, come on.

[Mr. Truffles]

All right, so you come back. You. Now you're in la, right? Yeah. Now you are kind of setting roots, right?

[Bruce Nozick]

Absolutely. We took two weeks, drove across the country, landed in west la, and we've been in West LA ever since.

[Terry Nozick]

That's really.

[Bruce Nozick]

Since 92.

[Terry Nozick]

Is that 32 years?

[Mr. Truffles]

Wow, 32.

[Terry Nozick]

Yeah.

[Mr. Truffles]

We got here at the same time, Bruce.

[Terry Nozick]

Yeah, we did a play together.

[Mr. Truffles]

We sure did.

[Terry Nozick]

Like within that first year.

[Mr. Truffles]

Must have Been Aaron Sorkin play hidden in this picture, didn't we?

[Terry Nozick]

And you remember who was in that play before ours playing the narcoleptic?

[Mr. Truffles]

Tell me.

[Bruce Nozick]

Will Ferrell.

[Mrs. Truffles]

Yes, your old buddy Will Ferrell.

[Mr. Truffles]

My old buddy Will. That's right. Oh, my God.

[Terry Nozick]

He was playing. He was in that play. And it was before he got on Saturday Night Live. And we thought, this guy's funny.

[Mr. Truffles]

Yeah. And at the wrap party of just our night of one acts, he came up to me and said, hey, Tommy, can I. I got this audition. Can I do some characters for you? And I got a five minute private Will Ferrell. Whoa.

[Terry Nozick]

All of his characters.

[Mr. Truffles]

It was for snl. Yeah. Crazy.

[Terry Nozick]

That's.

[Bruce Nozick]

Yeah.

[Terry Nozick]

Have you seen him since?

[Mr. Truffles]

I mean, outside of dinner that we have scheduled? No, we.

[Mrs. Truffles]

Outside of watching Step Brothers at least once a year, outside of him doing.

[Terry Nozick]

This podcast, is he happily married?

[Mrs. Truffles]

I believe that should be something we should try to do. So you guys have been here since 92. Do you have how many children now?

[Bruce Nozick]

We have two boys, Lucas. Chris is 30 and Will is 29.

[Mrs. Truffles]

Was he named for Will Ferrell?

[Bruce Nozick]

No, Will Rogers, actually.

[Mrs. Truffles]

Will Rogers.

[Bruce Nozick]

I was a big fan of the park and the man.

[Mrs. Truffles]

Aw. Tell us, all these years later, what is your secret ingredient for keeping love alive and fresh?

[Bruce Nozick]

And I think it's a special situation where one person is an actor and one person is not stepping back a little bit. It wasn't easy all the time.

[Mrs. Truffles]

Sure.

[Bruce Nozick]

Especially for me, because I resented. I resented. We went through a period of major resentment from me where I had to go off and do my corporate job and he got to stay home and be the house husband and the. The stay at home dad, go have coffee with his good actor friends at Utah.

[Mr. Truffles]

That's right.

[Terry Nozick]

Yeah.

[Bruce Nozick]

Tommy. Well, you were one of those.

[Mrs. Truffles]

Yeah.

[Bruce Nozick]

Yay.

[Mrs. Truffles]

Women's lip, right?

[Bruce Nozick]

No, I. We had some. We had a rough patch.

[Terry Nozick]

Yeah.

[Mr. Truffles]

I will say I remember there was one. Bruce and I went to a really fancy lunch, which was kind of not what we'd usually do, and we finished lunch and I said, okay, well, should we go Dutch? And he said, no, I got this. And I said, bruce, you're not working. He said, no, but Terry is.

[Terry Nozick]

That never happened.

[Mr. Truffles]

That did happen.

[Terry Nozick]

I'm kidding. There is an element of luck because Terry did support the family in a great way when we were, you know, early. Early on when the kids were younger, with her corporate job and made a lot of money. And I'm so grateful for that because. Because even though there was resentment and all that, she Never said, you can't do it anymore. You know, I always was looking for something else to do on top of it. I got my real estate license. I got my securities license. You know, I mean, I got all these trying all these different things because I wanted to pull my weight. But she was also not saying, stop acting. I'm just so grateful that when that corporate thing ended, that I was able to then flip it and be the one that supported her passions, that. That I became successful enough as an actor that I could then be the main breadwinner.

[Mrs. Truffles]

That's amazing.

[Terry Nozick]

It was so nice to be able to return that. I was so encouraging to her because I knew what she did for me. I wanted to do the same thing for her. And just, you know, cosmically, a funny little thing is, so Terry's at this corporate job. She thought she was going to retire at this job, that she'd be there for many, many years. But then they. They were based in El Segundo, and then all of a sudden, they said, we're going to move to the East Coast. So you can either move to the east coast and stay with us, or we're gonna have to let you go in six months. And she said, well, we're not moving to the East Coast. So she knew she had six months. She knew her end date. It was six months of anticipation of it ending. And I got the best acting job. That is still the best acting job I've ever had to this day was on this TV show called Weeds, which we've talked about, which we all have a lot of history with. And I got cast in this wonderful role that I did for two seasons. And my first day of work on that show was Terry's last day of work after six months, the same day.

[Mrs. Truffles]

That's amazing.

[Terry Nozick]

And I was like, okay. The universe is telling us it's okay, that this is the way it's going to be. Miraculously, it worked. And I think another thing that's also helped our relationship is that we both have our own interests. We're very different people in terms of what we do and what we pursue in our careers and all that. And I really respect Terry for having been a corporate career person for many years. And then when that ended, she started, like, really actively pursuing passions, you know, whether that was triathlons, cooking, wine, writing. She does all of that. And she's very good at it and very involved with it. And I have my own thing, you know, as an actor. I do a lot of plays. I have a side business where I coach actors for auditions. And, you know, we both have our separate interests and we both can live our separate lives and then come together. It's not like we depend on each other to be happy. So we are happy because we are content within ourselves.

[Mrs. Truffles]

We hear that from a lot of couples. You know, not every couple has that dynamic, but the ones that do, really love it.

[Bruce Nozick]

Yeah. And I also think that as a family unit of four, I love Bruce's relationship with our boys. He likes my relationship with our boys. We went through some really tough times with our boys. Honestly, I think that that really cemented our relationship in a way that if those things hadn't happened, we may not be as tight as we are. We stuck with each other through the tough times, and we came together in a way that helped our boys and helped us.

[Terry Nozick]

Yeah. And I gotta say, it's the most precious thing in my life is the relationship that we have with our boys. We are very tight family.

[Mr. Truffles]

There's an old adage that we're only as parents, that we're only. We can only be as happy as our saddest child.

[Bruce Nozick]

Yes.

[Mr. Truffles]

Right. And I. I know you guys have been through it.

[Bruce Nozick]

Absolutely.

[Mr. Truffles]

So it's. It's beautiful to see you guys.

[Bruce Nozick]

Yeah.

[Mr. Truffles]

As happy as you are.

[Bruce Nozick]

Yeah. That that period of our lives was one of the most stressful, where our son was doing things that he shouldn't be doing, putting his own life in danger. The payoff of having our son to this day, say you are the greatest parents that any person could ask for is the most humbling and the most.

[Terry Nozick]

Yeah, those.

[Bruce Nozick]

Cry if you want to, because honestly, tears. Tears flow from me every time I think about it.

[Terry Nozick]

Those. That three or four year period was the darkest. I mean, you know, I remember and you know how optimistic I am in general. But that everything that those three or four years, I thought, oh, my God, this is now going to be my life. This darkness being on the other side of it. As Terry said, having him not only tell us how important we are to him, but also he is flourishing and killing and in love and business, doing great. I am so grateful every single day of my life that I love life, because we got to the other side of that. And our youngest, Will, is married, has been married for what, five, six years now. And Luke just got engaged. And we love both of the women that they've chosen to be with. And the six of us get together regularly, dine and hang out. And we love hanging out together. And it is my greatest joy with.

[Mr. Truffles]

All of the Experience you've had as partners, as lovers, as friends. You've got one son who's so happily married, one who's about to get married. But if there's something that you guys have between the two of you that you could just kind of drop, just drop a little knowledge, what would that be?

[Bruce Nozick]

Well, the first thing that comes to mind for me is just laugh with each other.

[Terry Nozick]

Well, we do make each other laugh still.

[Bruce Nozick]

Yeah.

[Terry Nozick]

I mean, on a daily basis.

[Bruce Nozick]

I can't even tell you how many times I've nearly peed my pants coughing at this man.

[Terry Nozick]

Even like this week, you know, we have these and silly, but we do. So I think in terms of the relationships, you know, I mean, what I've learned is take a breath and know that nothing is forever. In terms of if you're having a feeling, if you're, you know, upset with your partner for whatever reason, take a breath, take a step, and it's going to be different. It will evolve. If you're meant to be together, it will breathe, breathe. Don't get stuck in, you know, a place of tension and disagreement. It's okay to have tension. It'll pass. But these are lessons that people have to learn on their own.

[Mrs. Truffles]

You know, it's okay to have a heads up, though.

[Terry Nozick]

Yeah, yeah. But you know, and our kids have come to us and asked advice and.

[Bruce Nozick]

You know, and they do come to us quite a bit.

[Terry Nozick]

Yeah.

[Bruce Nozick]

Yeah.

[Mr. Truffles]

Wow. Well, this has been extraordinary.

[Mrs. Truffles]

Such a lovely story, such a lovely couple.

[Terry Nozick]

I love our story.

[Mr. Truffles]

Well, for now I'm gonna go grab a box of Kleenex and we're gonna be right back with more for Love and Chocolate after this message. This podcast is being brought to you by Beverly Hills to a Chocolates of Switzerland. Beverly hills toysher at 371 North Camden Drive in Beverly Hills, has been serving up truffles, pralines, dipped fruits, marzipans and our world famous chocolate bars for over 40 years. So next time you're in Beverly Hills, why don't you come by and visit or shop online@beverly hillstoyshire.com.

[Mrs. Truffles]

Well, Mr. Truffle, I loved them.

[Mr. Truffles]

Aren't they great?

[Mrs. Truffles]

Yeah.

[Mr. Truffles]

Oh, they. They are my favorite. And you know, what our listeners might not realize is we ask our guests to send in pictures from when they first met, from their wedding day and something more current. And we post those, don't we?

[Mrs. Truffles]

Yes. We post them on our Instagram at For Love and Chocolate pod. And I also post them on our fun little website, which is for levinchocolate podcast.com.

[Mr. Truffles]

Yeah. And so the early picture that they sent was from the movie that Bruce did, hit the Dutchman. And in that movie, when Terry came and visited him in Russia, they dressed her up like a flapper. And so it was such a great shot. And I was kind of looking at you, thinking what a beautiful flapper you would have made. I think that you like to see you in the 20s would have been fantastic. You know, and all that slang that comes from the twenties, like the bee's knees and the cat's meow. And I mean, you say those things to me anyway, don't you? It's like, hey, babe, you're just a cat's meow.

[Mrs. Truffles]

You are the cat's pajamas is what I do.

[Mr. Truffles]

Oh, that too. That's also part of that slang.

[Mrs. Truffles]

This is not the cat's meow. Nobody says that.

[Mr. Truffles]

Okay. Well, I feel like I probably maybe would fit in the 70s with a mullet, and I lived through the 70s with a mullet. I don't know if the 20s would have been kind to me.

[Mrs. Truffles]

I think he would have been rather dapper.

[Mr. Truffles]

You think so?

[Mrs. Truffles]

Yeah, I think if we got into that time slip car in Midnight in Paris.

[Mr. Truffles]

Yeah.

[Mrs. Truffles]

Went back to hang out with Hemingway and Cole Porter.

[Mr. Truffles]

Yes.

[Mrs. Truffles]

You'd fit right in.

[Mr. Truffles]

And the Fitzgeralds.

[Mrs. Truffles]

The Fitzgeralds.

[Mr. Truffles]

We love Zelda, don't we?

[Mrs. Truffles]

Well, we love Zelda so much, we named our espresso machine after Zelda Fitzgerald.

[Mr. Truffles]

We did.

[Mrs. Truffles]

Well, actually, our long lost employee, Rebel, who is the biggest fan of anything Fitzgerald. He's the one that named our espresso machine after Zelda.

[Mr. Truffles]

Yeah. I think it's because she's smart and she's sexy and she's. You know what? She's a little feisty sometimes and she's just perfect. She is.

[Mrs. Truffles]

Yeah. She makes the perfect espresso.

[Mr. Truffles]

So we are about to hit the road, aren't we, sweetheart?

[Mrs. Truffles]

We're gonna get back out on the road in our Airstream, the trailer. Take the Airstream studios out and about.

[Mr. Truffles]

Celebrate Mrs. Truffle's 35th birthday again, aren't we?

[Mrs. Truffles]

I thought it was my 29th.

[Mr. Truffles]

Sorry, your 29th birthday? Yes, and we don't know where we're going yet. It's going to be an adventure.

[Mrs. Truffles]

Destination unknown.

[Mr. Truffles]

We're gonna hop into Bubbles and Blue Baby, and just hit the road.

[Mrs. Truffles]

Yeah, we're gonna go trick or treating somewhere up our gorgeous coast.

[Mr. Truffles]

Yeah, we love doing that so much.

[Mrs. Truffles]

Yeah. So we'll be coming back to you guys next week from Airstream Studios With.

[Mr. Truffles]

A postcard from the road.

[Mrs. Truffles]

With a postcard from the road, yeah.

[Mr. Truffles]

Can't wait. So thanks again for joining us, guys. And guess what? We're gonna do it again next week. But until then, say goodbye, Mrs. Truffles.

[Mrs. Truffles]

Goodbye, Mrs. Truffles.

[Mr. Truffles]

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