The One With Jay and Brown Kogen

Summary

Podcast Summary: For Love and Chocolate – Episode: The One With Jay and Brown Kogen

Released on January 15, 2025

Hosts: Tommy and Tara Gallop
Produced by: Tara Gallop, Tommy Gallop, Adam Haagen
Guests: Jay and Brown Cogan

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1. Opening Banter (00:12 - 01:27)

The episode kicks off with Tommy and Tara engaging in their signature playful exchange about love and chocolate, setting a warm and inviting tone for the episode. They tease each other about discussing love versus chocolate, ultimately deciding to focus on love as they welcome listeners back to episode five.

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2. Celebrating Their Relationship (01:27 - 06:18)

Tommy and Tara delve into how their intertwined personal and professional lives, including living together, working together, and now hosting a podcast together, have deepened their relationship.

Notable Quotes:

• Tommy (02:10): “With every day, with every episode, I love you a little bit more.”
• Tara (04:11): “All the best things are right there at home.”

They emphasize the importance of daily affirmations in maintaining a healthy relationship, suggesting that couples take a moment each day to express something they love about one another.

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3. Listener Questions Segment (06:18 - 11:33)

a. Excessive Ordering at Restaurants (06:18 - 08:26)

Listener: MB in LB
Question: “She always orders way more food than she can possibly eat and takes most of it to go. It's really starting to add up. What should I do?”

Tommy humorously interprets the situation, suggesting sharing the excess food as a gentle approach to addressing the issue.

Notable Quotes:

• Tommy (07:24): “She's probably petite, but she's ordering like the 48 ounce prime rib with all the fixins.”
• Tara (08:12): “Why don't we just share that?”

b. Meeting People After Moving to LA (08:26 - 11:33)

Listener: Lily P
Question: “I recently moved to LA from the Midwest after a bad breakup. I work remotely and haven't had much opportunity to meet people. How can I meet someone in person?”

Tara advises Lily to engage in local activities and hobbies to meet like-minded individuals, while Tommy adds humor by referencing their own past dating experiences.

Notable Quotes:

• Tara (10:09): “Just put yourself out there and make sure that every time you leave the house, you look a little put together and seem approachable.”

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4. Guest Spotlight: Jay and Brown Cogan (11:33 - 37:43)

Tommy introduces Jay and Brown Cogan, a couple married for nearly 27 years, highlighting Jay’s illustrious career in television writing and production, and Brown’s role in making their life together fulfilling and joyful.

a. How They Met (14:34 - 17:03)

Jay and Brown recount their unique meeting story, facilitated by mutual friends and improv groups. They humorously describe their initial impressions and the serendipitous moments that led to their relationship.

Notable Quotes:

• Jay (15:00): “I kind of heard angel sing. There was something. I thought, oh, God, I think I'm supposed to marry him.” [15:00]
• Brown (16:17): “And then we went out on our very first date on Yom Kippur.” [16:34]

b. Engagement Story (17:03 - 26:13)

The couple shares the humorous and heartfelt journey of their engagement, including mix-ups with romantic gestures and the eventual proposal at a rotating restaurant in New York.

Notable Quotes:

• Brown (21:59): “But one of the two of us is getting a little upset and antsy.” [21:59]
• Jay (24:21): “We were leaving Houston. I was like, this guy hasn't proposed. Like, yeah, okay.” [22:03]

c. Wedding and Honeymoon (26:13 - 31:11)

They describe their elegant wedding at the Beverly Hills Hotel’s Crystal Ballroom and their romantic honeymoon in Maui, highlighting personal touches and memorable moments.

Notable Quotes:

• Brown (26:02): “We got married outside. The wedding was beautiful.” [26:11]
• Jay (27:22): “It's like my happy place. But it was wonderful.” [27:48]

d. Maintaining Romance (31:11 - 37:43)

Jay and Brown discuss how they keep the romance alive through thoughtful gestures, celebrating special occasions, and supporting each other’s careers and personal growth.

Notable Quotes:

• Jay (28:02): “He makes my life easier, and I feel that that's really romantic.” [28:02]
• Brown (30:37): “On every single occasion that could be mundane or ordinary, she makes them special.” [30:37]

e. Advice for Couples (32:07 - 32:11)

Jay: Emphasizes the importance of humor in overcoming challenges and choosing each other even during tough times.

Notable Quote:

• Jay (32:11): “Your marriage is in trouble when you cannot be distracted for a moment with humor.” [32:10]

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5. Unpacking the Romantic Gift Bag (32:11 - 37:43)

Tara presents Jay and Brown with a specially curated "romantic weekend in a bag," featuring an assortment of chocolates, candles, and skincare products from Beverly Hills Toyshire Chocolates. The couple shares their excitement and appreciation for the thoughtful gifts.

Notable Quotes:

• Brown (35:22): “This is so nice. I know what this is.” [34:09]
• Tara (35:35): “We discovered those in Zurich, and we insisted on carrying them.” [34:21]

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6. Closing Remarks (37:43 - End)

Tommy and Tara reflect on the delightful experience of hosting Jay and Brown, expressing how interactions with long-time friends can reveal new facets of their relationships. They tease the next episode and extend heartfelt thanks to their guests.

Notable Quotes:

• Tommy (39:03): “It's the spice of life.” [39:20]
• Tara (39:22): “Stay tuned.” [38:51]

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Conclusion

In this heartwarming episode, Tommy and Tara Gallop explore the dynamics of a long-lasting marriage through their guests Jay and Brown Cogan. The conversation weaves humor with genuine insights, offering listeners both entertainment and valuable relationship advice. From navigating early courtship mishaps to maintaining romance over decades, Jay and Brown's story serves as an inspiring testament to enduring love.

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Notable Quotes Recap:

• “With every day, with every episode, I love you a little bit more.” — Tommy (02:10)
• “All the best things are right there at home.” — Tara (04:11)
• “Your marriage is in trouble when you cannot be distracted for a moment with humor.” — Jay (32:11)

Transcript

[Mr. Truffles]

From deep in the heart of Beverly Hills you found for love and chocolate with Mr. And Mrs. Truffles. You fill up my senses Like a night in the forest Like a mountain in springtime Like a walk in the rain Like a storm in the desert Like a sleepy blue ocean Come let me love you Come love me again.

[Mrs. Truffles]

Oh, Mr. Truffles.

[Mr. Truffles]

Oh, you heard that?

[Mrs. Truffles]

You are in a mood today.

[Mr. Truffles]

You heard that, Mrs. Truffles?

[Mrs. Truffles]

You want to talk about love?

[Mr. Truffles]

I thought I was singing all by myself in my own head.

[Mrs. Truffles]

You want to talk about love?

[Mr. Truffles]

I always want to talk about love.

[Mrs. Truffles]

We want to talk about chocolate.

[Mr. Truffles]

I think I want to talk about love.

[Mrs. Truffles]

Let's talk about love. Welcome back.

[Mr. Truffles]

Welcome back. Yeah.

[Mrs. Truffles]

To episode number five.

[Mr. Truffles]

Yeah. We're kind of in this dreamy mood right now, aren't we? So one of the things that has become so evident, I mean, we've talked about the fact that we obviously, we live together, we work together, we play together, and now we're doing a podcast together, which is its own thing. I mean, I know it's not possible for every couple, but I recommend it because it really does take us to the next level of whatever this is. At least for me, it does.

[Mrs. Truffles]

You left out one thing.

[Mr. Truffles]

What's that, babe?

[Mrs. Truffles]

One important thing, please. We have three dogs together. We're raising three dogs together.

[Mr. Truffles]

Yes, that's important. We are. We are. But what's so interesting about doing a podcast with you is that I'm still discovering things about you after. After all this time we've had together, and I. And with every day, with every episode, I love you a little bit more. Yeah, I do. And I. You know, I feel like it's so important for couples to really just take a moment every day to really look into each other's eyes and just say one thing that you love about that person. Just an affirmation. It sounds a little corny, but, you know, can you imagine, like, every morning if I wake up and I just.

[Mrs. Truffles]

Say, well, what would you say to me today?

[Mr. Truffles]

Today?

[Mrs. Truffles]

Mm.

[Mr. Truffles]

I think I would say that I love your eyes. Not only they're beautiful, but, you know, they're windows into your soul, and there's so much going on there. I can see when they smile. I can see when they're sad. I can see when they're pensive. I can see when they're bright and shining. I can see when they're distant and I can see when they're cloudy. It just tells a story, you know? Your eyes tell me a story every day.

[Mrs. Truffles]

I get that same thing from watching the puppies. Tails. You can always tell their mood.

[Mr. Truffles]

You know what's happening.

[Mrs. Truffles]

I do. I can tell if they're upset or if they're happy, they're wagging, they're scared.

[Mr. Truffles]

But you know what I'm saying? Like if you, if you. Because I think we do it naturally, the two of us. I think we're always elevating each other and telling each other how much we love one another and what we appreciate about each other, but.

[Mrs. Truffles]

Well, I know it's a great way to start the day. It's certainly a good practice to. To take a moment to love on the one you love. Every day. People get so caught up. All the best things are right there at home.

[Mr. Truffles]

Yeah.

[Mrs. Truffles]

Yeah.

[Mr. Truffles]

Just have to recognize it and appreciate it. That's right. Yeah. I love, I love seeing couples when they're together. They don't even have to be in a warm embrace, but you just, you can see body language. You can see how much love there is. They're just touching toes or holding hands or just kind of nestling up to each other.

[Mrs. Truffles]

I kind of notice that a lot with people with couples who come into our store that they often have this very loving body language.

[Mr. Truffles]

Well, that is the thing about our store is how people already come in.

[Mrs. Truffles]

Happy and in love.

[Mr. Truffles]

And in love. Yeah.

[Mrs. Truffles]

And they go out even more in love. Maybe happier.

[Mr. Truffles]

It seems like it. That's what makes.

[Mrs. Truffles]

That's what happens when you eat chocolate. It just releases those endorphins.

[Mr. Truffles]

Yeah. That chemical release that. Yeah. I mean, we talked about this before, but there's some time. Sometimes I'll give a customer, typically a woman, a champagne truffle. Uh oh, I'm in big trouble. If I give a woman a champagne truffle that she's never had before and she tastes it for the first time. There's usually she'll go away for a minute. She does not want to make eye contact with me or.

[Mrs. Truffles]

You should probably not be telling this story to your wife. You may not be allowed to pass out champagne truffles to women anymore.

[Mr. Truffles]

So ladies and gentlemen, if you do come into the store, please ask Mrs. Truffles for a champagne truffle. I've been banned.

[Mrs. Truffles]

Yeah, I'll watch you go away for a moment. Whatever.

[Mr. Truffles]

Been banned from ever giving away five Swiss truffles.

[Mrs. Truffles]

Every once in a while, you tip your hat in the wrong direction.

[Mr. Truffles]

You fill up my sins. Can't sing your way out of this one, Mr. Truffles.

[Mrs. Truffles]

Well, uh huh.

[Mr. Truffles]

You know what's? Going on now. Mrs. Truffles.

[Mrs. Truffles]

Well, Mr. Truffles, we have a very good show today.

[Mr. Truffles]

Yes, we do.

[Mrs. Truffles]

And I'm very. I'm very excited. We have. We have some excellent questions. I just sort of gave it a glance. There's some really good questions in the mailbox.

[Mr. Truffles]

Oh, fun. Mm. Yeah.

[Mrs. Truffles]

And we have an amazing couple.

[Mr. Truffles]

Yes. Funny, fun, and married a long, long time.

[Mrs. Truffles]

But before we get into that.

[Mr. Truffles]

Yeah.

[Mrs. Truffles]

I think you know what time it is.

[Mr. Truffles]

Yeah.

[Mrs. Truffles]

Mm.

[Mr. Truffles]

All right, Mrs. Truffles, shall we? So this is from MB in LB. Okay, here we go. Dear Mr. And Mrs. Truffles, I recently started dating a woman that I really like. I've been taking her out for the past few weekends and we're really having a nice time together. But there's one thing that is starting to really bother me. She always orders way more. Sorry. She always orders way more food than she can possibly eat and takes most of it to go. It's really starting to add up. What should I do? Oh, my God. That sounds like an SNL stuff.

[Mrs. Truffles]

I asked a lot of dating questions, but.

[Mr. Truffles]

Oh, my God, you're dating a hoarder. So she's probably petite, but she's ordering like the 48 ounce prime ribbon with all the fixins.

[Mrs. Truffles]

Yeah.

[Mr. Truffles]

And she takes a bite and then she gets like a doggy bag. Like a 15 pound doggy bag. Oh, my God, you poor son of a bitch. Listen, I mean, the options are just say, hey, I'm really happy to feed you and your extended family, but maybe you. He can't ask her to pitch in. I think he's just gotta.

[Mrs. Truffles]

Yeah. I think that, you know, if you really like her and want to keep seeing her, that you should just let her do her ordering first. As I'm sure you always let the lady go first and then just maybe comment and say, yeah, that's. Wow, that's a lot of food. And that all sounds delicious. Why don't we just share that?

[Mr. Truffles]

Yeah.

[Mrs. Truffles]

And. And then maybe she'll start to get the message. And I don't want you to be used. MB and lb.

[Mr. Truffles]

Poor MB and lb.

[Mrs. Truffles]

Yeah. But good luck with that.

[Mr. Truffles]

Thank you for writing in and I hope we helped even a little bit.

[Mrs. Truffles]

Well, we've got something here from someone calling themselves Lily P. Lily p. Okay. Dear Mr. And Mrs. Truffles, I love your show and I hope you can give me some guidance. I recently moved to LA from the Midwest after a bad breakup. I work remotely from home and haven't had too much of an opportunity to meet people. I've tried dating online, but I'm not having any luck. I feel like a fish out of water here, and I'm afraid that I come across that way online. My best friend, who is still living in Iowa, says that I am a person of marvelous subtleties. Marvelous subtleties. I love that. And that I would do much better meeting someone in person. I'm not sure how or where to do that. How did people used to do it before online dating was around where?

[Mr. Truffles]

Lily, hold on, Let me take my dentures out and I'll give you my. My assessment of the situation. But it's. I mean, it was a long time ago that we were kind of on the dating scene, like we were looking for love. It was many, many eons ago.

[Mrs. Truffles]

I've never done online dating. And during the time that I was single before we met, I mean, I met you at the honor bar getting takeout.

[Mr. Truffles]

That's right.

[Mrs. Truffles]

And the boyfriend before you, I met at Piccolo Paradisio waiting for the restroom. And the guy I dated before that I met, actually, I was buying something for my little girl in a children's shop and he was buying a gift for somebody in there.

[Mr. Truffles]

Okay. Remember, sweetie, it's just a 40 minute podcast.

[Mrs. Truffles]

Oh, okay. Because I could go on.

[Mr. Truffles]

Nope, I think we're good.

[Mrs. Truffles]

You know, you just never know when you're gonna meet someone. Waiting in line for a coffee, waiting in line for concert tickets. But you got to be out there.

[Mr. Truffles]

Yeah. There's 100% certainty that you will not meet someone in person if you were holed up in your apartment or your house.

[Mrs. Truffles]

Right.

[Mr. Truffles]

It's just not going to happen. But getting out there, you know, with. With a group of friends, that's a great way.

[Mrs. Truffles]

She's saying she's having trouble meeting people out here. She doesn't have a group of friends. That's the problem.

[Mr. Truffles]

Yeah.

[Mrs. Truffles]

But what she does have is she has opportunity to look at all the different things going on in la. It's la. Whatever you're into. Butterfly collecting gemstones, horses, dog shows, skydiving, the big five. The big five. Whatever your interests are, there's going to be other people here who are into it.

[Mr. Truffles]

Yeah.

[Mrs. Truffles]

And that's a great way to maybe meet somebody that you have things in common with and can have some fun with.

[Mr. Truffles]

And if you. If you want to gaze at butterflies while riding a horse, I'm sure there's a club for that too, right?

[Mrs. Truffles]

There might be.

[Mr. Truffles]

Yeah.

[Mrs. Truffles]

Yeah. Well, yeah. Just put yourself out there and make sure that when you are every time you leave the house that you look a little put together and that you seem approachable. You know, don't be looking down at your phone. You know, be looking up and making eye contact with people and putting on that pretty smile of yours, Lily.

[Mr. Truffles]

Yeah.

[Mrs. Truffles]

Yeah. Good luck to you, honey.

[Mr. Truffles]

Thanks, Lily.

[Mrs. Truffles]

So let's talk a little bit about the guests we're having on today. Mr. Truffles.

[Mr. Truffles]

Oh, yes. Dear, dear friends Brown and Jake Hogan, who I've known again for the better part of 30 years.

[Mrs. Truffles]

A couple of very funny people.

[Mr. Truffles]

Very funny.

[Mrs. Truffles]

They've been together forever.

[Mr. Truffles]

Yes. And I actually, because they're writers, I asked Jay to fashion his own bio. Why not? Right?

[Mrs. Truffles]

Of course, you could write it better.

[Mr. Truffles]

So here's what he said about his wife.

[Mrs. Truffles]

Okay.

[Mr. Truffles]

Brown Kogan is a television writer and author and the mom of a handsome musical genius who is currently a senior at Stanford and the wife of a podcast host. She is enormously proud of one of those people. Okay. Jake Hogan has been in show business since he was 5 years old. He's an actor, director, Stand up and Groundlings alum. But mostly, he's written and produced many of the most popular TV and movie comedies over the last 30 years that we've all come to love, including the Simpsons, Frasier, Malcolm in the Middle, Everybody Loves Raymond. Jay has won numerous awards, including a WGA Award, the Humanitas Award, a People's Choice Award, and a Golden Rose of Montrose, whatever that is. Jay has been nominated for 14 Emmy awards and won four of them. He created a show based loosely on his life, Wendell and Vinnie. And he co wrote and produced the cult comedy the Wrong Guy, which won the HBO Comedy Festival Award. Jay is currently writing and producing pilots and writing a movie he wants to direct, proudly teaching his future employers at usc, hosting a brand new podcast called Don't Be Alone with Jay Kogan, where he brings famous funny people on his show to talk about his personal problems. Well, I mean, if that doesn't sound like fun, I don't know what is.

[Mrs. Truffles]

This is going to be a great interview. We'll be right back with Jay and Brown.

[Mr. Truffles]

For over 40 years, toyshare has been a staple in the Beverly Hills community. Like so many other families in the community, our family has had a long standing love affair with Toyshire Chocolates. Over the years, we formed traditions and memories around these extraordinary Swiss chocolates and the enchanting wonderland of fantasy truffle boxes inside our store. Today, our family is proud to be carrying on the toy shoe tradition in Beverly Hills. Well, welcome back. We are here with Jay and Brown Cogan and Jay I've known for the better part of 30 years, I think. And he makes a very good living. And Brown makes that good living worthwhile.

[Jay Cogan]

That's right.

[Mr. Truffles]

I'm going to say that you're a comedian because you always make me laugh. In the 14 minutes that we've known each other, you've always made me laugh, Brown.

[Brown Cogan]

It's very, very funny.

[Mr. Truffles]

And so here they are, married for a long time.

[Mrs. Truffles]

How long have you two been married?

[Brown Cogan]

It'll be 27 in May.

[Mrs. Truffles]

20. Almost 27 years.

[Brown Cogan]

Wow. That's amazing. Good run? It was great. We're ending it today.

[Mr. Truffles]

They do say the 27th year is the hardest.

[Brown Cogan]

The hardest, exactly.

[Jay Cogan]

So good luck with that.

[Brown Cogan]

Right.

[Mr. Truffles]

So.

[Mrs. Truffles]

So tell us how. How did you two first meet?

[Brown Cogan]

Well, we first met when she was on a date with one of my very best friends.

[Jay Cogan]

That's true. Very nice guy. Very. He was a tall Jew.

[Brown Cogan]

Very tall.

[Jay Cogan]

Very uncommon.

[Brown Cogan]

Yes. Rob. Rob Cohen, who was one of the groomsmen at our wedding, was dating Brown for. I don't know. What period of time was it?

[Jay Cogan]

A week?

[Brown Cogan]

Two weeks.

[Jay Cogan]

Not serious. It was obvious.

[Brown Cogan]

Was it a month?

[Jay Cogan]

It was one of my first dates with him. When I saw. When I met you, right.

[Brown Cogan]

It was like Rob's 30th birthday or something like that. They were going out. It was supposed to meet me, his girlfriend, Brown. Me and my girlfriend, Sultan.

[Jay Cogan]

Salt and Pepper.

[Brown Cogan]

Her name's Salt and Pepper. And I'm Brown Sugar, so I like condiments.

[Mr. Truffles]

Brown Sugar.

[Jay Cogan]

Brown Sugar.

[Brown Cogan]

That's her nickname.

[Jay Cogan]

Brown Sugar.

[Mr. Truffles]

Yeah.

[Jay Cogan]

I'm sweet.

[Mr. Truffles]

That's crazy.

[Brown Cogan]

My girlfriend at the time didn't make it. And so it was just the three of us. Just the three of me, Rob Cohen and my future wife.

[Mr. Truffles]

Told you, short. You and Brown Sugar.

[Brown Cogan]

Exactly.

[Jay Cogan]

I heard about Jay, and when he walked in, I really. I kind of heard angel sing. There was something. I thought, oh, God, I think I'm supposed to marry him.

[Mr. Truffles]

Oh, my God.

[Jay Cogan]

It was weird.

[Mrs. Truffles]

Oh, my gosh. I have goosebumps.

[Mr. Truffles]

That's.

[Jay Cogan]

So I called my dad and said, oh, I met this guy, his name is J. Kogan. And dad, he seems like a mensch. My dad's like, well, you gotta chase that coggin boy. You gotta chase him till he catches you.

[Mr. Truffles]

Get it? Wow.

[Mrs. Truffles]

We do get it. Get a lot of.

[Jay Cogan]

He's dad, I mean, Jay and I, you know, he had a girlfriend. I was dating Rob, then I wasn't. Then Jay was in a Very serious relationship with someone for many years.

[Brown Cogan]

And then when that ended. When that ended, I was doing an improv. I was in an improv group with some friends, and a mutual friend of ours, Lisa Kudrow, was in the improv.

[Jay Cogan]

Group, and she thought we would make a good couple, so.

[Brown Cogan]

So she was sort of pushing us together.

[Mr. Truffles]

But you knew each other. You did know each other.

[Jay Cogan]

Yes, we did.

[Brown Cogan]

Yeah. Eventually, we wound up working at the same studio at Universal Studios.

[Mr. Truffles]

Okay.

[Brown Cogan]

Started cozying up to each other and flirting a little bit with each other and hanging out, and eventually we went out on our very first date on Yom Kippur.

[Jay Cogan]

Oh, God, that's right. In Yom Kippur. We went to Dodger game in Yom Kippur and ate hot dogs. And I typically do go to Yom Kippur. I really like Jay, and he asked me to the game, and I just thought, you know what? Why not? I'm gonna go. I had never been to a Dodger game.

[Brown Cogan]

She had never been on a date.

[Jay Cogan]

I never really been on a date with him. I just, like.

[Mrs. Truffles]

Had you been. Had you been waiting for him to ask you out?

[Jay Cogan]

Yes, I would go watch him perform on Saturday nights. Him and my friend Lisa and I just always would go out afterwards. And so, yeah, I was waiting for him to ask me out.

[Mrs. Truffles]

What was it that finally prompted you, Jay?

[Brown Cogan]

She's too cute.

[Mr. Truffles]

So you. So you thought Brown was very cute? Yeah, let's. You know. But, you know, we're hanging out together, and she comes to the show, and you weren't thinking anything long term, necessarily. It's like, you know, for now, this feels right.

[Brown Cogan]

It felt right. And she was adorable and cute, and I. And so I asked her out.

[Mr. Truffles]

Do you remember how soon the second date was?

[Jay Cogan]

Soon. Soon after.

[Brown Cogan]

I feel like we didn't. We went out once and never stopped dating. We're still dating now.

[Jay Cogan]

Yes, that's true.

[Mrs. Truffles]

When did you have the first kiss? Was it at the game? Was it after the game? On the second date? When did that happen?

[Jay Cogan]

I think we kissed on the Universal lot during work. It was. Yeah, she came and visited me in my office when we came home. That's right. But yeah, because it kind of was so seamless after we started dating.

[Mrs. Truffles]

Did you get a lot of advice from your dad along the way? Was he good at advising you?

[Jay Cogan]

My mother always said, no chuppah, no shtuppa.

[Mrs. Truffles]

Yeah, there you go.

[Jay Cogan]

She means, like, I love that. But that's. Let's be honest, there was shuppah before A chuppah. But I will say that my dad, like I said earlier, chase a guy till he catches you. Don't be that kind of girl. But I'm very in touch with my feelings, and I'm not afraid to say how I feel. And with him, I really felt safe saying how I felt. That was, for me, how I knew, okay, I'm really supposed to marry him. Because, you know, when you're dating someone and it's like, oh, I called too much, or, oh, I said too much. With him, I could call a million times. It would never be wrong. He could handle me. Every time I would call you, you'd say, hello. You always were happy to hear from me. I was never feeling like, oh, God, he didn't really want me to call. It just was so incredibly safe.

[Mrs. Truffles]

That's. Yeah, that's the risk women run when they call a guy because you don't know what he might be doing when you call.

[Jay Cogan]

But he always want. He always was there. And he used to call my machine and sing to me.

[Brown Cogan]

That's true.

[Mrs. Truffles]

What did you sing to her? What song?

[Jay Cogan]

What song did we sing the song from? Same time next year. Hello.

[Mrs. Truffles]

Can you sing some of it? Now?

[Jay Cogan]

You know I'm coming back.

[Brown Cogan]

I remember the song. I don't know enough the lyrics I'll have to dredge up.

[Jay Cogan]

The last time I felt like this.

[Brown Cogan]

I was falling in love.

[Jay Cogan]

He would play on his piano. I get the chills.

[Mr. Truffles]

Oh, yeah.

[Jay Cogan]

Those are good times, Jay. Still some good times. I married my second husband first.

[Brown Cogan]

It's true.

[Mr. Truffles]

So. So the dating starts happening. Was there a moment that you realized, I love this person and I see the rest of my life with them.

[Jay Cogan]

For me, very quick, immediately, like, oh, my God, of course. Of course I'm supposed to marry him. But I had certain things that I needed to accomplish before I would think of getting married. I knew that I wouldn't move in with him unless I was engaged, and I wouldn't get married until I had done something for myself, career wise. So I had a lot of rules for myself.

[Mr. Truffles]

Right.

[Brown Cogan]

I was. I knew I loved her pretty quickly. And then time came when we were considering moving in together, and she had already told me the rule. She's not going to move in unless there's marriage going on. And I thought, oh, well, I do want to move in with her, so I must want to marry her. And that's how that worked.

[Jay Cogan]

Okay. But I thought to myself, come on, how could he not want. I know he loves me. Like, come on, come on, man.

[Brown Cogan]

I'm very free. I like to love people, and I like to be warm and friendly and give my heart out to all people all the time. But my love, when I met her and loved her was like, I love you.

[Mrs. Truffles]

Do you remember the first time that you told her you loved Guy?

[Brown Cogan]

I may have said that at the Dodger game. I have no idea. I'm not sure. But, I mean, it's like. Like, she was adorable right away.

[Mrs. Truffles]

So how did. How did the engagement take? Tell us that story.

[Brown Cogan]

We have to go through this very tenderly.

[Jay Cogan]

Yes.

[Mrs. Truffles]

Because there's.

[Jay Cogan]

We told you already that I wouldn't move in with him until we got married. I wouldn't move in until I had a ring. And I also wanted to sort of accomplish some things. And I had. My first episode of television was going to be airing in May of 1995. He was going to be coming to Houston. He wanted me to move in within that summer. So in my mind, I thought, okay, so sometime in the next six weeks, he. I should be getting engaged. Take it away.

[Brown Cogan]

So. So I knew we were moving in together. We're going to Houston, and after that, we're going to New York to a beautiful wedding. So.

[Mr. Truffles]

And Houston was just a visitor family.

[Brown Cogan]

Houston was a visitor family. And I to watch the big show that she made. And I thought, I'm not gonna overshadow her big career moment with an engagement. Kind of. Why would I take that away from her? Why would I take that moment away from her?

[Mr. Truffles]

Okay.

[Brown Cogan]

I had called her sisters and said, kind of ring advice, do you want? So her sisters knew that I'm getting a ring, and so she's in Houston. Thinking is going to be the moment when he's going to ask, my family's here.

[Jay Cogan]

Of course I propose now.

[Brown Cogan]

I would never deign to interfere with that moment of her. It's a career is this. And New York's going to be so romantic. It's a wedding. It's all about love. And so when we're in Houston and days go by and I'm not saying I'm not proposing, one of the two of us is getting a little upset and antsy. I'm not going to say which one.

[Jay Cogan]

Okay.

[Brown Cogan]

But one of the two of us is getting a little upset and antsy.

[Jay Cogan]

We were leaving Houston. I was like, this guy hasn't proposed. Like. Like, yeah, okay.

[Mr. Truffles]

And you were feeling that. Yes.

[Brown Cogan]

Oh, yeah. She was getting meaner and meaner. I know. I'm so dumb on so many levels.

[Jay Cogan]

He was dumb about.

[Brown Cogan]

I Didn't think about that. So. So then we go to New York. I get. She's described the ring that she wants to me. Like, we even went engagement ring shopping. We did at the Aquarius.

[Jay Cogan]

Oh, my gosh.

[Brown Cogan]

And so. And so we said, like, look at used rings, which I thought were beautiful. And it's like, if she could just. Antiquarius.

[Mr. Truffles]

Right.

[Brown Cogan]

This place on Beverly Boulevard. I don't think it's open anymore, but.

[Mr. Truffles]

It was Zach Wagner. Yeah, it's so funny.

[Jay Cogan]

Okay.

[Brown Cogan]

And we. When she wanted a new ring and she said she wanted. She described the ring. The engagement story is, I'm gonna propose to this woman and say, I want to spend the rest of my life with you, no holds barred. I spent a lot of money on hotel room. Try to make it romantic. She's complaining about many things. One of the things she complains about is she's got a dress and I have no jewelry to go with this. So I run from the St. Regis Hotel and when she steps in the shower to Tiffany's and get her a sapphire and diamond necklace and think, when she gets out of the shower, I'm gonna present her with the sapphire and diamond necklace and she's gonna think I'm a hero and love me and it's all gonna be better. And so she gets out of the shower and I present her with this thing, which the thought of it was problematic because she thought, I'm trying to give her this jewelry instead of giving her an engagement with her.

[Jay Cogan]

I want the damn. Damn brain.

[Brown Cogan]

So this romantic gesture that I keep doing, this romantic.

[Jay Cogan]

You're not gon. He's giving me this necklace instead. I was pissed.

[Brown Cogan]

And we go to this wedding, and it was lovely, this lovely wedding. And we have a good time, and then we're walking around New York and Union Square, and it just comes to a head. It's just like, why are you being so horrible? And then I take out the ring and say, I have this ring and I've been carrying it around with me for two weeks, and if you would just not be horrible for three seconds, you might be asked to get married. Okay. And then I put the ring back in my pocket.

[Jay Cogan]

You finish your. Your version. And then I'll.

[Brown Cogan]

She saw the ring. Not the ring, the box. She calmed down and said, from that point on, very pleasant. It was a really much different person. Much cooler. Pleasant.

[Jay Cogan]

I was. Well, I knew then, oh, okay, so he does have a ring. Okay, so that necklace wasn't. Instead of. You should have asked me when my family Was there.

[Brown Cogan]

But so those. That expectation was the defeat of what could have been romantic time. But it was a different romantic in a different way because we came through something together. And at the end of it, at the end of that day, towards the afternoon at sunset, we went into the cheesiest bar in New York. That rotating bar on Broadway, you know, but the top of the Marriott.

[Mr. Truffles]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Brown Cogan]

And up there, I got down on a knee and I proposed to her. Said, will you marry me? And she said, okay, let me think about it.

[Jay Cogan]

Okay.

[Brown Cogan]

And that.

[Mr. Truffles]

Was it based on your version? I mean, you guys are very funny comedy writers. You come from that world. Isn't that the perfect.

[Jay Cogan]

Okay, maybe.

[Mrs. Truffles]

What did he do right? What were the good things?

[Jay Cogan]

So what did he do right? Everything.

[Brown Cogan]

Well, you know, my family, like, we have a different relationship with my. I would want my engagement separated from my family completely. My POV is, oh, well, this is our relationship. And it was. I'd like to keep my career separate from things. So I come from a different point of view.

[Mr. Truffles]

Yeah.

[Jay Cogan]

I mean, listen, he's adorable and he did a lot of nice things and it all worked out.

[Brown Cogan]

It did all work out. Moved on. But it.

[Jay Cogan]

Things have gone uphill since then. Let's just say that.

[Mrs. Truffles]

Well, let's. Let's. Let's skip after. So you said yes?

[Jay Cogan]

I said yes.

[Mrs. Truffles]

When he did finally get down. Did you get down on a knee when you asked her? Tell us. Describe that event to us.

[Brown Cogan]

I was on a rotating restaurant in the middle of New York in the midtown Manhattan right in the Broadway district. And it was. And I got down on a knee, and only. And I think it was only tourists around us proposed. You said yes? We kissed. Now.

[Jay Cogan]

Yeah, we.

[Brown Cogan]

So all that is done. So there's a formality. But it was a nice formality. And then we got to call our parents.

[Jay Cogan]

And then we had. We also. We had a mudslide.

[Brown Cogan]

Yes, we had a nice drink.

[Jay Cogan]

It's a chocolatey, delicious liquor drink. And I told the waitress, I said, hey, we just got engaged. She's like, fine, here's your mudslide. She didn't care.

[Mr. Truffles]

Yeah, she didn't.

[Mrs. Truffles]

That's New York for you.

[Jay Cogan]

Totally. 100.

[Brown Cogan]

We had a nice trip after that. We did have a lovely trip.

[Jay Cogan]

It's like the pressure was off.

[Mrs. Truffles]

So how long after the engagement did you guys have the wedding?

[Jay Cogan]

A year. We were engaged for a year.

[Mrs. Truffles]

Engaged for a year. And you got married in Texas.

[Jay Cogan]

In la.

[Mrs. Truffles]

You got married in la.

[Jay Cogan]

Yes, I wanted to get married here because I want. I thought, for my Texas family and friends, it was like a destination wedding. It's so great.

[Mr. Truffles]

So where was the wedding?

[Jay Cogan]

The Beverly Hills Hotel. It was very swanky.

[Brown Cogan]

Very swanky.

[Mrs. Truffles]

It was at the Crystal Ball.

[Brown Cogan]

I didn't get to save any money.

[Jay Cogan]

It was at this Crystal Ballroom. But we got married outside. The wedding was beautiful. It really was. And it was a great wedding. Such a good wedding. He walked down to the theme from the Dating Game.

[Mr. Truffles]

Oh, that's funny.

[Jay Cogan]

It is funny.

[Mr. Truffles]

Did you know that was happening?

[Jay Cogan]

I think so, yeah.

[Brown Cogan]

Got approval from.

[Jay Cogan]

And then he sang to me at our wedding, which was really. He sang the more I see you. This is true.

[Brown Cogan]

I don't know. This is our show. It's just a standard.

[Jay Cogan]

It's incredible.

[Brown Cogan]

I sang it as best as I can. I rehearsed it with the band and tried to do it because she had said, I'd like you to sing to me at my wedding.

[Jay Cogan]

Yeah.

[Brown Cogan]

And so I said, okay. And so I sang to her at the wedding. And then a little while later, I asked family friend of ours, Stephen, Edie, Steve, I said, will you sing something? He said, okay. And he went out and said, I'm gonna sing the song. Jay sang, but better. Yeah, he did.

[Mr. Truffles]

Oh, that's fun.

[Jay Cogan]

That was really fun.

[Mrs. Truffles]

That's amazing, Steven. Edie were at your wedding?

[Brown Cogan]

Yes.

[Jay Cogan]

And she was like, hit the C notes, Steve. That's where the money is.

[Brown Cogan]

Hit the high notes.

[Jay Cogan]

Hit the high notes. She was so drunk. It was a great wedding.

[Mrs. Truffles]

It was a really great wedding.

[Mr. Truffles]

Beautiful.

[Mrs. Truffles]

Where did you honeymoon?

[Jay Cogan]

We went to Maui. Four Seasons. The Four Seasons.

[Brown Cogan]

And a lot of mudslides there, too.

[Jay Cogan]

A lot of mudslides. What was that other drink we had there?

[Mrs. Truffles]

Lava flow.

[Brown Cogan]

Lava flow.

[Mr. Truffles]

That's right.

[Jay Cogan]

It was the lava flow.

[Mrs. Truffles]

My favorite drink in Maui.

[Jay Cogan]

It's the best. I love Maui. I'm so happy in Maui. It's like my happy place. But it was wonderful. It was so good. And then we came home and started our life.

[Mrs. Truffles]

What would you say is the most romantic thing about Jay? That, like, he's always done that. He still does for you now?

[Jay Cogan]

Well, he rubs my feet when I ask or don't ask. That's pretty great. He honestly. He makes my life easier, and I feel that that's really romantic. Like, he tried. He protects me from all the mundane things. He loves to run errands. Okay, let me just say that. He's always saying, if I say, oh, I got to go to the drugstore. Oh, let me do it like but no, he's really. He's sweet and he's very thoughtful. I think it's very. Honestly, very romantic the way he considers me always first with. A lot of times with his family, because his, you know, they live here and they can. They need him a lot, and they rely on him a lot. But I feel like you try to.

[Mrs. Truffles]

Always put you first, and you feel.

[Jay Cogan]

Most of the time. Yeah, I really do. Like, when I first saw him, there was something about him when I said, oh, I saw. Heard angels sing. Like, I could tell that he was a mensch. I remember thinking back to my dad's friends, oh, like, Uncle Allen's such a mensch. I wonder what he was like when he was my age. Or my dad's such a mensch. What was he? I knew immediately that Jay was. Was that guy. He was young, but I knew, okay, this guy is only gonna get better, and he's a mensch now. He's gonna be the kind of guy I want to be with forever. And I knew it. I knew it. And I was right.

[Mr. Truffles]

Personally, for me. For me, because I've known Jay for the better part of 30 years.

[Jay Cogan]

Wow.

[Mr. Truffles]

And, you know, met him in, I guess, our late 20s. I mean, I think you've got, you know, 20 or 30 years on me. But my takeaway also was you don't really get to meet that many super talented people that are also that kind.

[Brown Cogan]

What was my most romantic moment with you?

[Mr. Truffles]

I think it was when we were rehearsing Bunk Bed Brothers.

[Brown Cogan]

Sure. That's right.

[Mr. Truffles]

Oh, my God.

[Jay Cogan]

Bunk Bed Brothers.

[Brown Cogan]

Yes, that's right.

[Mr. Truffles]

That's right. That's how we know each other. Isn't that crazy?

[Mrs. Truffles]

What is? Funk Bed Brothers.

[Jay Cogan]

And Jay always tries to plan things.

[Mr. Truffles]

Bunk Bed Brothers was a pilot that Jay wrote that I pretty sure I tested for. Yes, right.

[Brown Cogan]

You not only test for you didn't you get.

[Mr. Truffles]

I may have gotten it.

[Brown Cogan]

Yeah, you got it. You were in it.

[Mr. Truffles]

But yeah, it was. We had known each other.

[Brown Cogan]

Yeah, we've known each other through Hank, his area, and the poker.

[Mr. Truffles]

That's right. Our poker group. But, yeah, I mean, I've always. Maybe not like you, but I've always adored him.

[Jay Cogan]

Yeah.

[Mr. Truffles]

I've always thought it was a nice show.

[Brown Cogan]

I would say that my most romantic stuff is not the day to day stuff, but on. On events like her birthdays and things like that, where those are very tender moments where the birthdays can be emotional and tough and they can be good. And trying to make those as celebratory and Special as those things can be. That's where I feel like I go out of my way. The other stuff is day to day stuff.

[Jay Cogan]

You're right. Because my whole family's still back in Houston, Texas. Jay's my family here. Like birthdays in my family were always really important, so we're half birthdays. Jay has become not just a husband, but he really makes me feel like he loves me. Like not just a wife and a woman, but like a family. He does the things that my parents would do for me. Like on my birthdays, he just goes all out. It's like I don't even have to tell him that kind of stuff. No, but he really, he just instinctually knows and he makes plans and he makes big blow up signs and balloons. Like, it's really nice. Thank you.

[Brown Cogan]

You're welcome. We also took a very romantic trip to Europe last year recently.

[Jay Cogan]

Amazing.

[Brown Cogan]

That was very nice. We went to Florence and Paris. Really sweet, very lovely time. I actually wanted to also say what she does that's very romantic, how she makes my life better. On every single occasion that could be mundane or ordinary, she makes them special. Whether it's just serving dinner on a plate where I wouldn't put it on a plate, or literally putting flowers out and making fresh cut flowers. Making the world that I live in beautiful and nice, but also special occasions, even more special. And opening our home to people and entertaining in a way that I would never would. Those are the things that she absolutely brings to my life that I would.

[Jay Cogan]

That's really nice. Yeah, I like to make things nice for you.

[Mr. Truffles]

What else, Mrs. Druffles?

[Mrs. Truffles]

Well, why don't we ask Jay and Brown? You know, you've had a successful marriage after all these years. What advice would you give to young couples starting out or people looking for love?

[Jay Cogan]

Well, I'm gonna give some advice.

[Mrs. Truffles]

Tell us the advice.

[Jay Cogan]

Well, it's actually again, kind of stealing from my mother. My mom and dad were married for 60 something years when my dad died. And they were truly affectionately in love with each other. And they went through a lot of stuff. And my mother would always say, you know, your marriage is in trouble when basically, no matter how hard it gets, no matter how intense things are, if you cannot be distracted for a moment with humor, you got real problems. Like, I don't think as hard as things have been, certain things we've had patches. I mean, every, what Every marriage goes through tough times and stuff. I think just being grounded in what you really have is a key to successful marriage. Not taking everything so seriously. And just always choosing each other, choosing to be together. Like, even when things aren't going great, you have to want to be together and keep your family together more than anything else, you know? And that's. That is what I think. It's. It. You're committing to someone. You wouldn't take a job and commit to a job and blow your work off. And you wouldn't, and I wouldn't. And you gotta treat your mares with that kind of respect. I think. That's what I think.

[Mrs. Truffles]

Good advice. One of the things we do on the show is we have a gift bag for you guys, and part of that is unpacking it together.

[Brown Cogan]

Swag. I do a podcast. I give nothing to anybody.

[Mrs. Truffles]

Well, wait till you see what we. So what I prepared here for you is a romantic weekend in a bag bag.

[Brown Cogan]

Oh, wow.

[Mr. Truffles]

Best way to unpack your baggage.

[Jay Cogan]

Okay. By the way, that's just so cool that y'all.

[Brown Cogan]

Can we unpack the bag?

[Mr. Truffles]

Yeah.

[Jay Cogan]

Yeah.

[Brown Cogan]

This is awesome. Let's do one at a time. Come on. Let's do one at a time. First, an amazing bottle of champagne.

[Mr. Truffles]

Yeah, that's the good stuff.

[Brown Cogan]

I prefer fantastic. So that's.

[Mr. Truffles]

That's in a bag.

[Brown Cogan]

You pull one.

[Jay Cogan]

I'm gonna pull some.

[Brown Cogan]

Yeah, it's in the toy shirt bag. What is that?

[Mrs. Truffles]

Those are amaretti. So what that is is that's like a cross between a meringue and a truffle with an amaretto cream filling inside. And it is heaven.

[Jay Cogan]

It looks like heaven.

[Brown Cogan]

Yeah.

[Mrs. Truffles]

We discovered those in Zurich, and we.

[Jay Cogan]

I know what this is.

[Mrs. Truffles]

Insisted on carrying them. I am.

[Brown Cogan]

I am. I am sworn off alcohol and truffles, but otherwise.

[Jay Cogan]

Not me.

[Brown Cogan]

Now, you have in our hands.

[Mr. Truffles]

This is a box of champagne truffles.

[Mrs. Truffles]

This is what we're famous for. It's a recipe our factory in Zurich has been making for over 75 years. And it's a recipe we're told was discovered in a dream. And that is about 80% of what we sell. It's exquisite.

[Mr. Truffles]

It's made with Dom Perignon, and you're getting the milk and the dark.

[Jay Cogan]

But also, the box is so.

[Brown Cogan]

The box is adorable. Yeah, yeah, the box is fantastic. It's a little kid holding a bottle of champagne. It's popping.

[Mr. Truffles]

Yeah. We're not done, guys.

[Jay Cogan]

Keep in mind, it's my turn.

[Brown Cogan]

No, no, you pulled that out. Now it's my turn.

[Mr. Truffles]

Did you put the plane tickets in here?

[Brown Cogan]

Is lovely. What is this?

[Mrs. Truffles]

Oh, those are our Melitello cookies. So all of the oranges that Mr. Toyscher uses are from Sicily. All the lemons are from the Amalfi coast. And that has both on these almond biscuits. They're amazing.

[Mr. Truffles]

So good.

[Jay Cogan]

And this is so nice.

[Mr. Truffles]

This is speaking of your football.

[Jay Cogan]

Oh, my God.

[Mr. Truffles]

So Mrs. Truffles, take this away.

[Mrs. Truffles]

Absolutely. So that's something that I make. And that's actually going to be available for sale starting in March on our. Online. On our. In our store.

[Mr. Truffles]

This is Mrs. Truffles.

[Jay Cogan]

Oh, my God. You don't eat this.

[Mrs. Truffles]

You could, but it's all the food grade.

[Jay Cogan]

But you put it on.

[Mr. Truffles]

But this is how she gets a little backup every morning.

[Mrs. Truffles]

It's. It's.

[Jay Cogan]

This is so.

[Mr. Truffles]

You can't believe it.

[Mrs. Truffles]

It's all the best things you could ever put on your skin on your face. That's the only thing I use.

[Mr. Truffles]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Jay Cogan]

Beautiful.

[Brown Cogan]

Yeah. Your skin looks very lovely.

[Jay Cogan]

Smell it.

[Mrs. Truffles]

It smells like chocolate.

[Brown Cogan]

Because incredible.

[Mrs. Truffles]

Like 50 of it is just cocoa butter. So it has a real choc smell. Yeah.

[Jay Cogan]

This is heaven.

[Brown Cogan]

And we had this is delightful on the way in. It keeps going. And then finally this is all wrapped up.

[Mr. Truffles]

This is fun. I would love to get this bag sometime. Right?

[Mrs. Truffles]

I'm going to make one for you. You will, baby.

[Mr. Truffles]

I just want your body.

[Brown Cogan]

Cute.

[Mr. Truffles]

So this is a fun little thing.

[Jay Cogan]

Y'all are cute.

[Mr. Truffles]

This is a fun little thing.

[Brown Cogan]

Look at this. Lola candle roses.

[Mrs. Truffles]

This is a like your love. As your love is pure, so is the beeswax candle. I love beeswax.

[Mr. Truffles]

Yeah.

[Jay Cogan]

Look how gorgeous is.

[Mrs. Truffles]

Yeah. I'm told they only use beeswax candles in cathedrals because it doesn't create smoke.

[Brown Cogan]

And blacken the cathedral.

[Mr. Truffles]

This is extraordinary color. You have the weekend now.

[Jay Cogan]

Wow.

[Mr. Truffles]

All around you, truffles, music, singing, cookies. Maybe you've got champagne, candlelight.

[Brown Cogan]

This is body butter. This is fantastic. I'm going to take it to my improv class. Hey, dude. Champagne truffles.

[Jay Cogan]

God.

[Mrs. Truffles]

Have a wonderful weekend with them. Thank you.

[Brown Cogan]

This has been so much a pleasure.

[Mrs. Truffles]

We loved having you.

[Brown Cogan]

We don't deserve it. Yes, I do deserve it.

[Mr. Truffles]

I feel like you guys maybe love each other even a little more.

[Jay Cogan]

I feel like I do.

[Brown Cogan]

I feel this experience put a percentage on that.

[Mr. Truffles]

I think 17%.

[Brown Cogan]

17 is a very special number in my family. It is.

[Jay Cogan]

Wait, Jenny now. Kidding, though. Don't you feel? I feel like I love you a little more.

[Brown Cogan]

I love you.

[Jay Cogan]

Stop with the jokes.

[Brown Cogan]

I can't.

[Jay Cogan]

I know. It's like a tick.

[Mrs. Truffles]

I can't.

[Brown Cogan]

I continue to love you.

[Jay Cogan]

Joy.

[Mrs. Truffles]

Of life.

[Jay Cogan]

Thank you so much.

[Mrs. Truffles]

Thank you so much for joining us, you guys. It was such a pleasure.

[Jay Cogan]

Thank you. Thank you.

[Mr. Truffles]

That was our dear friends, Jay and Brown Cogan. And we. We'll be right back with more for Love and Chocolate. This podcast is being brought to you by Beverly Hills Toyshare Chocolates of Switzerland. Beverly Hills Toyshare at 371 North Camden Drive in Beverly Hills, has been serving up truffles, pralines, dipped fruits, marzipans, and our world famous chocolate bars for over 40 years. So next time you're in Beverly Hills, why don't you come by and visit or shop online at beverlyhillstoyshire.com Mrs. Truffles. Is it just me or is it just more fun every time?

[Mrs. Truffles]

Oh, my goodness. Jay and Brown were so adorable.

[Mr. Truffles]

I feel like we could put them up on stage in the Catskills and it would sell out for the month of August. They're so fun. And who knew there was gonna be so much singing on the show? I certainly didn't know.

[Mrs. Truffles]

Did you know it was kind of a sing songy show today?

[Mr. Truffles]

It really was. It was like Love and Chocolate, the.

[Mrs. Truffles]

Love and Chocolate, the musical. Stay tuned.

[Mr. Truffles]

Something to aspire to, don't you think?

[Mrs. Truffles]

Yeah, it was a great time with them. I knew it would be, but I had no idea they would be so cute.

[Brown Cogan]

Yeah.

[Mr. Truffles]

And as I mentioned, I've known Jay for so long and I didn't really know any of those stories. So once again, it's just so great to be able to sit in front of couples, you know, that I'd known for as long as I have and make these new discoveries, you know, it's the spice of life, isn't it?

[Mrs. Truffles]

It's the spice of life.

[Mr. Truffles]

So again, guys, thanks so much for joining us. And we're gonna do it again next week, aren't we? Yeah, I think we are. Well, say goodbye, Mrs. Truffles.

[Mrs. Truffles]

Goodbye, Mrs. Truffles.

[Mr. Truffles]

This show is brought to you by Beverly Hills toysher Chocolates of Switzerland, home of the world's first and final champagne troubles. Join us next week for more adventures in everlasting love.