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Brains on Universe
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Rubber band, please.
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Here you go.
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Thank you. Pass the Yo Yo.
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Here you go. Go.
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Bucket of slime.
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Oh, this thing is heavy.
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Ooh, you're right. But we're gonna need it all.
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Remind me again, what are you planning to do with all this?
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I have to build a new alarm system to remind me to wind my clock back twice a year. We have to adjust our clocks. And I always forget or hit snooze again and again and again.
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Oh, yeah. Daylight saving time always sneaks up on you.
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Yeah. Last year, I even tried to hire a knocker upper, someone to come knock on my window to wake me up, but she forgot to rewind her clock.
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Classic Elizabeth.
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But I simply won't get got this time. Not on my watch. My watch that has to spring forward, which I will remember thanks to my handy dandy alarm.
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How's it gonna work?
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If all goes according to plan? I'm imagining it'll go a little something like this. My alarm bell goes off, it'll launch a rubber band to hit the yo yo, which will swing around and hit that globe, which will travel down my xylophone, hit the cushion, releasing the pulley, and slime everywhere. Slime all over my head. There's no way I can snooze my alarm and forget to wind my clock back with slime on my head.
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A foolproof plan.
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Yeah.
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I just gotta make sure my alarm doesn't go off too soon.
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Oh.
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Oh, no. No, wait. Oh, no. Oh. Good news, Our contraption works.
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Bad news, we're gonna need more slime. And maybe a shower.
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You're listening to Forever Ago from Brains on Universe. I'm your host, Joy Dolo, and I'm here today with my co host, Rahema from Dallas, Texas.
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Hi, Joy.
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Hello. Hello. Today we're talking all about daylight so saving time.
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It happens every spring when we move our clocks forward an hour. That way, more of daylight is in the evening hours instead of the early morning.
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Then in the fall, we move the clock back an hour and daylight saving time ends. That also means it gets dark earlier. Today's episode was inspired by this question. Hi, My name is Uzam from KitchenAid, and my question is, why do we have daylight savings time? Thanks, Uzam, for sending in that question. Rehema, have you ever noticed this time of year?
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Oh, yeah. Not long ago, my phone broke down, and my watch uses my phone to change time zones. You were in North Carolina then, which is an hour ahead of Texas. So when I came home, my watch was an hour ahead of the real Time. But thankfully, when daylight savings came around, everything shifted forward an hour and my watch was back on track. Go daylight saving.
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Go daylight savings. Agreed. So do you notice the difference between, like, the daylight saving during the fall versus the spring?
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I go to dance every class at Thursday at 6pm So I can always see drastic light changes at the start and end of daylight savings. It happened on a Sunday this year. Slap bang in the middle of two classes. The class before it was pitch dark at my studio, but after it was so light out that it felt like the studio shouldn't have been open yet.
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Yeah. Does it ever, like, mess with you? Like, when it gets, like, too dark too early or, like, too light, like, for too long?
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Not really. Not really. I like to consider myself like something in between a morning bird and a night owl.
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Okay.
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And so I can be alert early in the morning if I need to, but I can also sleep in really late if I feel like it. So when the daylight savings happens, then usually I'll just sleep through it and end up getting like 13 hours of sleep that night or something.
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That's so long. So if you could choose to jump forward one hour every year or what would you like to skip over as
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any time that is sometime during allergy season. Allergies are really brutal right now. Yes, as long as you don't skip my birthday. Because my birthday is also during allergy season, which I hate so much because every time I have my birthday outside then my eyes are puffy and my nose is running. I can barely see anything. It's. It's horrible. It's horrible.
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Clocks aside, you might have noticed there's just more daylight overall during the summer months compared to the winter months. And you might be wondering why.
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The reason is the Earth is tilted.
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You can picture it like this. Imagine Earth is like a ball and
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the sun is like a big, bright lamp.
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The Earth might as well be a ballerina, because it loves to spin. The Earth is constantly spinning in a circle, like a ballerina spinning on their tippy toes.
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So picture that ball spinning in circles.
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Each full spin marks one day, but the spin doesn't stop there.
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Yep. Because the Earth also circles around the sun.
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So it'd be like if the ball is spinning in circles while also spinning around the giant lamp.
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So that's lots of little spins while also making one big spin. I'm getting dizzy just thinking about it.
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Each time Earth circles the sun, that equals one year. So if Earth was circling the sun straight on, the amount of sunlight wouldn't change every day. Would have the same amount of sun all year long. But earth is actually a little tilted, Much like how gumpy wears his fedora.
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So imagine if that ball was tilted at an angle towards the lamp.
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The top half would get more light, Just like the northern part of our planet during the summer when days are longer. But remember, Earth keeps spinning around the sun.
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Eventually it spins to the other side of the sun.
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The earth is still tilted, but now the southern part is angled toward the sun and the northern half is angled away.
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Which means winter in the north and summer in the south.
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If you want to learn more about the science behind daylight saving time, Our pals at brainson made an episode all about it.
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We'll have a link to that episode in our show notes.
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So we know why summer has more daylight than winter.
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As humans have been trying to make the most of those daylight hours as possible for thousands of years, they would
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even change how they measured time.
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Take the Romans, for example. An hour of time was different depending on the season.
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The Romans divided the day into 24 hours, just like we do now. However, their days were split so that there were always 12 hours of daylight and 12 hours of darkness. To make that work in the summer with more daylight, each daytime hour had to be about 75 minutes long.
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Meanwhile, in the winter, there was less sunlight. So an hour of the day was only around 45 minutes long.
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So this means throughout the year, the time of a so called hour would shift a little bit, Just like the amount of daylight would shift in a given day, which is confusing to my modern brain. Today, our hours are always 60 minutes, no matter the season.
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But other people realized it would be helpful if we changed the clock so we got more light in the evenings. And the first person to really push this idea was a bug scientist.
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His name was George Hudson. He was an entomologist from New Zealand.
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Entomologist is a fancy name for a person who studies bugs.
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And boy, oh boy, did George love to study bugs.
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Bugs, bugs. Beautiful bugs. I'm gonna find bugs and give them hugs. Ooh, look at this one.
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But George was running into problems.
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There's just not enough daylight to study all these incredible insects. I spend all the bright hours of the day at work. I need more light outside of work so I can go hunting for my beloved creepy crawly creatures.
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So George made a proposal to some fellow scientists.
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Okay, hear me out. What if we moved our clocks by two hours so we had more light outside of working hours, you know, so everyone can look for more bugs.
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Here we go with the Bugs again, George, that is ridiculous.
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Well, not just bugs. Yeah, I mean, we'd have more daylight to enjoy the great outdoors, cycle, sports, you know. Oh. Plus we'd save energy by not using all those artificial lights.
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Huh. Hard pass, George. No, thanks.
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George's idea was rejected, but the idea
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of daylight savings would come back around a couple decades later. And we'll learn more in a little bit. But first, it's time for First Things First. This is the game where we take three things from history and try to put them in order of which came first, second, and most recent. So, since setting our clocks back as a big national event, I picked three other big national events. These are unofficial holidays. You have to tell me which order they come in the year. So there's Strawberry Ice Cream Day, Make a Hat Day, and Lost Sock Memorial Day. So, Rehema, which do you think comes first, second, and third in a year?
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I think that the one about socks came first, because I feel like socks in and of themselves came first in history compared to the other two. And then I think Make a Hat Day came next.
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Okay.
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And then Strawberry Ice Cream Day, because I feel like strawberry ice cream is the most recent thing in those three.
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Okay, so just to recap, the most recent in the year is Lost Sock Day, and then Make a Hat Day and then Strawberry Ice Cream Day.
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Yes.
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All right, let's plug it in. We'll hear the answers at the end of the episode, right after the credits, so stay tuned. Hey, we're doing an episode soon all about slang words. You know, words like Riz, Slay, Skibidi, 6, 7. Are we still doing skibidi? It's all slang. Did you know you can just make up your own, too? Like Liberty Jibbitz. Oh, Liberty Jibbitz. I missed the bus. We want to hear your slang words, too. Make up a word and tell us what it means, then send it to us@brainzon.org contact. Bonus points if you use it in a sentence. Can't wait to hear what you dream up.
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You're listening to Forever Ago. I'm Rahema.
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And I'm Joy.
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Today we're talking about daylight saving Time
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and figuring out why we move our clocks forward every spring and back every fall.
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Earlier, we learned how Romans change the length of an hour depending on the season.
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We also learned about a bug scientist who wanted to rewind the clocks back each summer. These ideas didn't really stick around, though.
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That is, until World War I.
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In the early 1900s, there was a huge war across the globe between many different countries. People were encouraged to do lots of things to save energy and resources so more of that stuff could be used in the battle.
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There were limits on how much wheat, sugar and meat people could buy.
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Folks were encouraged to grow their own food and preserve it too.
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Governments also wanted to save energy.
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This is where the idea of daylight saving came back into play. So governments thought by moving the clock forward by an hour, there'd be more daylight in the evening. That meant after work, people could do more stuff using daylight instead of electricity,
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which in turn would conserve more energy.
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During the war, Germany and Austria were the first countries to shift their clocks back. Soon enough, other countries joined in, including the U.S. but when the war ended
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in 1918, the U.S. stopped using Daylight Saving Time.
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But then World War II started, and they went right back to using it.
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They called it wartime.
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It was marketed as the patriotic thing to do, wake up early, save energy, wartime.
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Then World War II ended in 1945.
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After the war ended, states got to choose if they wanted to keep moving the clocks twice a year or not.
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Some states decided to keep doing Daylight
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Saving Time, but others said, nope.
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Pass.
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This made things complicated. Much like Hermes drink order a double half caffeine, pineapple juice with coconut, cold foam, light ice, pink umbrella, straw on the side. It's extremely important that the straw is on the side.
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I like an elephant who knows what they want.
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Yeah, me too. But you gotta admit, it's a bit complicated. And that's how it was when different states started picking and choosing whether or not they wanted to use Daylight Saving Time. And some states were doing both. Okay, so take my home state of Minnesota, for example. Minneapolis and St. Paul are two cities right next to each other. But for a short period back in 1965, each city followed a different time zone.
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It's like if your neighbor's clock was one hour ahead of your own clock.
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Weird, right? And this sort of thing happened all across the country. An hour long road trip could mean passing through seven different time zones. Jimmy, don't forget to wind that clock back.
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But I just changed it.
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New city, new time zone.
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Gee willikers, Pops. It's like the fourth time this trip,
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and believe me, it won't be the last. All of this time zone confusion caused a lot of chaos.
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I can imagine. Especially for railroads, airlines, bus drivers and travelers.
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Yeah, timetables were easy to get mixed up. Hotels and airlines had to have multiple clocks just for the different times in their own states.
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It was so bad, America got the
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nickname the World's worst timekeeper. So in 1966. The US did something about it. Congress passed the Uniform Time act, which made Daylight Saving Time standard across the whole country.
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That meant everyone would change their clocks back twice a year, once in the
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spring and once in the fall.
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Well, almost everyone.
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Two states decided not to partake. Arizona and Hawaii.
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But around the world, it's super common not to change the clock. Most other countries don't use Daylight Saving Time anymore.
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Why is that the case? We'll learn more right after we check the mailbag. I love hearing from fans. So let's see what we got today. Oh, a note from a listener named Stella. Okay, let's open it up here. Stella says we love the mayonnaise episode of Forever Ago. We tried mayo. We tried mayo on a grilled cheese sandwich and it worked wonderfully. And then there's actually a beautiful picture of a grilled cheese sandwich that looks like it's just grilled to perfection. Ever questioned my hate of mayonnaise? It would be looking at this yummy, cheesy sandwich. It looks so good. Thanks so much Stella for writing in. If you want to tell us what you thought of an episode or send a drawing, picture, or poem, just go to brainzone.org contact thank you. Want our show with no breaks? Join Smarty Pass. You get ad free versions of Forever Ago Brains on smashboom, Best and bonus episodes, invites to virtual hangs, and more. Plus, you'll support me and the crew. It's a great investment considering all the smarts you'll get in return. Thanks, y'. All. I'm Joy.
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And I'm Rahema. And we're talking about time changes.
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Today. Only about one third of countries worldwide change the clocks for Daylight Saving Time.
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Most countries in Asia, Africa, and South America don't do it.
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Many US Territories like Guam and Puerto Rico don't do it either. Which means Bad Bunny doesn't use Daylight Saving Time.
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Not even every US State uses Daylight Saving Time, right?
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Hawaii and Arizona stopped using Daylight saving time almost 60 years ago.
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In Hawaii, daylight hours don't vary that much during the year because it's so close to the equator.
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The equator is the invisible belt around the middle of the Earth. Remember how earth is tilted? For places along the equator like Hawaii, Guam, or Puerto Rico, the effect of the tilt isn't as noticeable, and so there's a pretty similar amount of daylight from season to season, so winding the
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clocks back doesn't make that much of a difference.
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And in Arizona, a state that is mostly desert, it can get really hot if there are more hours of sunlight later in the day. That means there are more hours to keep the AC running and the fans blasting at schools and businesses, which ends
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up using more energy.
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Ironic. So Daylight saving time was supposed to save energy, but that's really not the case in Arizona. And in fact, researchers think changing our clocks doesn't really save much energy in the rest of the country anymore either.
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Some scientists also say that daylight saving time is bad for our health.
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Winding the clocks back can mess with our sleep. The switch up can make us feel groggy or confused. Rahema, have you ever felt this way after you switch the clocks?
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Not really. I felt it this time around, but that was because I had an event and I had to wake up super early. But in general, I then the switching of the time doesn't really bother me.
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Oh. I get sleepy even, like, sometimes when the hours change. It, like, makes me feel like I miss something. You know what I mean? Like, you wake up and you're like, oh my gosh, I'm an hour late or I'm an hour early. And so it makes me do that thing where you like to pat your head and rub your stomach at the same time. It just makes me feel out of sorts, you know?
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Yeah. And because of the watch situation that I said earlier, then I was reading my watch and going back on it an hour. So if it said 5:25pm then I was thinking, okay, this is 4:25pm but when daylight saving time came around, then I'd completely forgotten.
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Yeah.
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And so I woke up and I was reading the clock wrong. And then I realized that the time was right and I'm like, oh, no, I'm late.
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That's what they're talking about. It's like, oh my gosh, it's so confusing. The good news is us humans are pretty good at adapting to new things. We usually adjust within a week or so after we change our clocks.
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Who's that?
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Yoo hoo. Wakey, wakey.
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Joy. Elizabeth, Is that you?
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I think you mean. Oh, Elizabeth. Thank you for waking me up. What would I do without you? You're the best knocker upper I've ever met.
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Well, I was already awake. Also, it's not even morning anymore. The sun has been up for hours.
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You've almost recorded an entire episode.
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Oh my goodness. I totally forgot to wind my clock back to the right time. I was in Bali for vacation, so it looks like my watch is 15 hours ahead.
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Whoopsie daisy.
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Classic Elizabeth.
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Classic Elizabeth.
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We have more daylight in the summer months and less in the winter months because The Earth is tilted.
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The idea of Daylight Saving time started with a bug scientist who wanted more daylight to hunt for bugs.
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But it didn't catch on until during World War I and World War II, when governments claimed it saved energy during the war. Daylight saving became official in the US in 1966, excluding Arizona and Hawaii.
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Today, only about 1/3 of countries worldwide use Daylight Saving Time. It's still a huge debate.
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This episode was written by Ruby Guthrie. It was produced and fact checked by Nico Gonzalez Swissler and edited by Sandon Totten. Engineering help from Devon Clark with sound design by Rachel Breese. Original music by Mark Sanchez. Special thanks to Mr. And Mrs. Kuria.
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Okay, Rahama, are you ready to hear the answers for first things first?
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I am nervous. I'm not very confident in my answers anymore.
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I know now, now that we're at the end of the episode, it's like. Wait, wait, is that right? Okay, so just to say so, first it was Lost Sock Day, and then Make a Hat Day, and then strawberry ice cream.
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Yes, yes, yes, yes.
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Okay, okay. So this was a tough one. You did. You did great. The first one is January 15th, and that one is Strawberry Ice Cream Day, actually. So Strawberry Ice Cream Day is celebrated on January 15th in the United States, and it's been a popular flavor for centuries. President James Madison served it back at an inauguration banquet in 1813.
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1813. 1813.
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Yeah.
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Wow. That is a long time ago.
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The largest scoop of strawberry ice cream was made back in 2014 and weighed over 3,000 pounds.
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That's 3,000 pounds.
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3,000 pounds. That's about as heavy as. What's something that's 3,000 pounds? A car. What?
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Yeah, like, I can see it now. A car made a strawberry ice cream.
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Could you imagine eating a car's worth of strawberry ice cream? Oh, my gosh. The tummy ache.
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No way. Stomach ache waiting to happen.
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Yeah. So that was January 15th. Next up, it's May 9th. And that one is Lost Sock Memorial Day.
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Oh, my gosh. No.
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It's a day to mourn all the socks you might have mysteriously lost to the washing machine. But also a day to let go of all the single socks that remain. Oh. So it's like, you know, you can mourn this thing and then also let go of. That's beautiful. If you're not a mismatched sock kind of person, you can repurpose your lonely single sock into cleaning rags. Or better yet, a choir of sock puppets. Have you ever made sock puppets before?
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Yeah, I remember that when I was little. I think I was 7, and my little sister was like 4 or 5. Then we actually made sock puppets out of mismatched socks. And we put on a puppet show and, like, the couch was our stage, and we were just telling jokes.
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Oh, that's awesome. That's great.
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So fun.
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So last, last but not least, September 15th is make a Hat Day.
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Make a Hat Day.
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Make a Hat Day. So you celebrate by making a hat out of anything you want. You can do a beret of bottle caps or a felt fedora or a paper bag top hat. Hey, maybe you could repurpose all those single socks into a sleeping cap. So, fun fact, the world record for tallest hat is for a Santa hat measuring 18ft tall.
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18ft?
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Yeah. So that's about as tall as a giraffe. So we have an ice cream car that's £3,000, and we have a Santa hat that's as big as a giraffe.
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We need to find a world record for socks. I bet socks are feeling kind of left out right now.
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I bet you I could do it for most lost socks. I never know where my socks are. Join us next week for a new episode about the Titanic.
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Thank you for listening.
Episode: Day Light Saving: The Surprising Story Behind Why We Change Our Clocks
Host: Joy Dolo with co-host Rahema
Date: April 8, 2026
Podcast Network: Brains On Universe
This engaging episode of "Forever Ago" uncovers the surprising and sometimes hilarious history of Daylight Saving Time (DST). Hosts Joy Dolo and Rahema break down why we move our clocks forward in spring and back in fall, where the idea originated, its impact over the years, and why some places still—or no longer—observe it. Using relatable stories, playful sound effects, and interactive moments, the hosts make the concept of DST accessible and fun for listeners of all ages.
Earth’s tilt and seasons: Joy and Rahema use vivid metaphors (“Earth is like a ballerina spinning under a lamp”) to explain why we get more daylight in summer than in winter. (05:04–06:14)
Key takeaway: Earth's tilt and orbit cause shifting daylight, not our clocks.
“So if Earth was circling the sun straight on, the amount of sunlight wouldn't change every day. But earth is actually a little tilted, much like how Gumpy wears his fedora.”
— Joy Dolo (06:09)
George Hudson: A New Zealand entomologist obsessed with bugs who first proposed DST to fellow scientists so he could hunt bugs after work. (07:58)
His proposal to shift clocks by two hours for more daylight was dismissed as silly, but he argued it would also help with outdoor activities and saving energy. (08:44–09:15)
“What if we moved our clocks by two hours so we had more light outside of working hours, you know, so everyone can look for more bugs.”
— George Hudson (impersonation, 08:44)
World War I: Germany and Austria first adopted DST to conserve energy, quickly followed by the U.S. and others. After the war, most stopped using it. (12:06–13:03)
World War II: The U.S. reinstated DST, calling it “wartime” for patriotism and energy savings.
Post-war confusion: After the wars, states could choose whether to use DST. Some did, some didn’t, creating a “world’s worst timekeeper” scenario where cities mere miles apart could be an hour apart. (13:29–15:10)
“An hour long road trip could mean passing through seven different time zones. Jimmy, don’t forget to wind that clock back.”
— Joy Dolo (14:34)
To fix the chaos, Congress passed the Uniform Time Act in 1966. Now, most of the U.S. observes DST, except for Hawaii and Arizona, which opted out for geographical and practical reasons. (15:10–15:41)
Example: Arizona’s hot, sunny climate means more sunlight increases energy use for air conditioning, not less. (18:02–18:38)
“So Daylight saving time was supposed to save energy, but that’s really not the case in Arizona.”
— Joy Dolo (18:40)
Only about a third of countries worldwide (mostly N. America and Europe) still use DST. Many, including most of Asia, Africa, S. America, and U.S. territories like Guam and Puerto Rico, do not. (17:29–17:39, 17:47–17:56)
For equatorial nations, day length barely changes so there’s little to “save.”
Scientific studies now show DST doesn’t save much energy and may be bad for health (sleep disruption, confusion). (18:53–19:59)
“Some scientists also say that daylight saving time is bad for our health. Winding the clocks back can mess with our sleep.”
— Joy Dolo (18:57)
Joy quizzes Rahema to guess the calendar order of three “unofficial holidays”: Strawberry Ice Cream Day, Make a Hat Day, and Lost Sock Memorial Day.
Answers revealed at (22:21–25:12):
Notable fact: The largest scoop of strawberry ice cream ever made weighed 3,000 pounds! (23:05)
A listener, Stella, shares a photo and love for mayo-grilled cheese, referencing a previous episode. (15:48)
For more about the science behind DST, check out the Brainson episode linked in the show notes!