Mini-Ep 442: Recs for Prods and Pods

Summary

Forever35 Podcast Summary Mini-Ep 442: Recs for Prods and Pods
Release Date: May 7, 2025
Hosts: Doree Shafrir & Elise Hu

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Episode Overview

In Mini-Ep 442: Recs for Prods and Pods, hosts Doree Shafrir and Elise Hu engage with their Forever35 community by sharing listener comments, answering questions, and providing product and podcast recommendations. This episode is a blend of personal anecdotes, community interactions, and insightful suggestions, all delivered with the hosts' characteristic humor and self-awareness.

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Hosts' Weekend Recaps

The episode kicks off with Doree and Elise sharing snippets of their recent weekends, offering listeners a glimpse into their personal lives and setting a relatable tone for the episode.

• Doree's Weekend:

  • Attended a G Love concert, reminiscing about their first encounter with his music in the 1990s.
  • Quote [02:15]: "G Love is just such an entertaining musician because he was able to be a one-man band."
  • Participated in her child's school play, portraying the Nine of Spades, which she found refreshing away from typical Disney productions.
  • Ran a 5K with the Students Run LA marathon training program, highlighting the vibrant community of young runners.

• Elise's Weekend:

  • Managed unexpected travel logistics after participating in a documentary shoot.
  • Enjoyed a charity book event where she met author Zan Romanoff.
  • Hosted a dinner with friends, albeit exhausted from her packed schedule.
  • Quote [09:35]: "I had to keep shooting with Abel that day, so we were way out of town and I couldn't get back home in time to shower."

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Listener Voicemails: Product Recommendations

Listeners reached out with their favorite products, which Doree and Elise enthusiastically discuss, providing honest reviews and personal endorsements.

1. Wonder Skin Wonder Blading Lip Color Kit

   • Voicemail [17:30]: A listener shares her positive experience with the Wonder Blading lip color kit, highlighting its longevity and natural appearance.
   • Hosts' Take:
     • Doree [19:02]: "It's like a lip mask and then you remove the mask and the stain stays all day."
     • They express intrigue and appreciation for the product's effectiveness and TikTok trend status.

2. Maelovs Glowmaker Vitamin C Serum

   • Voicemail [19:57]: A listener praises Maelovs Glowmaker Vitamin C serum, comparing it favorably to high-end brands like SkinCeuticals.
   • Hosts' Take:
     • Doree [21:42]: "There is so much chemistry involved, the temperature that things need to be to stay most potent."
     • They delve into the complexities of skincare chemistry, emphasizing the importance of product potency and formulation.

3. Elf Bronzing Gel as a Dupe for Tom Ford for Men Bronzer

   • Voicemail [22:06]: A listener seeks recommendations for a dupe after Tom Ford discontinued his men's bronzer line.
   • Hosts' Take:
     • Elise [24:32]: "Why not use a tinted moisturizer?"
     • They discuss the viability of Elf's bronzing gel as an affordable alternative, while also considering SPF and layering options.

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Listener Voicemails: Podcast Recommendations

The episode features valuable podcast recommendations from listeners, aligning with Forever35's ethos of self-care and personal growth.

1. Culture Study by Anne Helen Peterson

   • Voicemail [25:57]: Emma from Chicago recommends Culture Study for its insightful discussions on pop culture topics.
   • Hosts' Take:
     • Doree: "She has great guests and covers all types of topics in pop culture."

2. Vibe Check with Sam Sanders, Saeed Jones, and Zach Stafford

   • Voicemail [25:57]: Highlighted for its engaging conversations on news and culture.
   • Hosts' Take:
     • Raj [27:06]: "He talks about how much he loves television and one of the shows that he really loves is Spoiler Alert."
     • Doree and Elise commend the dynamic rapport among the hosts, making it a must-listen for their audience.

3. Be There in Five by Kate Kennedy

   • Voicemail [25:57]: Recommended for its long-form discussions and personal monologues.
   • Hosts' Take:
     • Elise: "She's just such a genius and she does a very substantial portion of the show just monologuing."

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Upcoming Topics and Community Engagement

Doree and Elise encourage their listeners to continue sending in product recommendations and podcast suggestions. They also announce an upcoming series focused on personal finance, inviting listeners to submit their money-related questions for expert advice.

• Money Series Announcement [10:49]:

  • Elise: "We are doing an upcoming series of episodes on money and personal finance and all that kind of stuff."
  • Call to Action: Listeners are prompted to call or write in with their financial queries to be addressed in future episodes.

• Community Involvement:

  • The hosts stress the importance of community input, reminding listeners that while they are not experts, the collective wisdom of their audience can provide valuable insights.
  • Doree [01:49]: "This community is here for you though, if you need dish towel recommendations."

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Notable Quotes

• Doree on Product Potency:
  "There is so much chemistry involved, the temperature that things need to be to stay most potent."
  [21:42]

• Elise on Podcast Recommendations:
  "She's just such a genius and she does a very substantial portion of the show just monologuing."
  [25:57]

• Doree on Community Support:
  "This community is here for you though, if you need dish towel recommendations."
  [01:49]

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Conclusion

Mini-Ep 442: Recs for Prods and Pods serves as a testament to Forever35's commitment to fostering a supportive and engaged community. By sharing personal stories and addressing listener inquiries, Doree Shafrir and Elise Hu create an intimate and interactive experience. The episode not only offers valuable product and podcast recommendations but also underscores the importance of community in the journey of self-care and personal growth.

Listeners are encouraged to participate actively by sending in their own recommendations and questions, ensuring that Forever35 remains a dynamic and evolving platform dedicated to nurturing its audience as they navigate the complexities of aging gracefully and wisely.

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Support the Show: Submit your recommendations and questions via call, text, or email to become a part of the Forever35 community.

Transcript

[Raj Panjabi]

Hi, I'm Raj Panjabi from HuffPost.

[Noah Michaelson]

And I'm Noah Michaelson, also from HuffPost. And we're the hosts of Am I Doing It Wrong? A new podcast that explores the all.

[Raj Panjabi]

Too human anxieties we have about trying.

[Noah Michaelson]

To get our lives right.

[Raj Panjabi]

Each week on the podcast, Raj and I pick a new topic that we want to understand better and bring a guest expert on to talk us through how to get it right. And we're talking like legit, credible experts, doctors, PhDs all around superheroes from HuffPost and Acast Studios.

[Noah Michaelson]

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[Raj Panjabi]

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[Noah Michaelson]

Hello and welcome to Forever 35, a podcast about the things we do to take care of ourselves. I'm Dory Shafrier.

[Raj Panjabi]

And I'm Elise Hu. And we're just two friends who like to talk a lot about serums.

[Noah Michaelson]

And this right here is a mini episode where we hear from you, we share your comments and your thoughts, and we answer your questions to the best of our ability. But please remember, we are not experts. We are podcast hosts. And we always encourage you to seek support first and foremost from a medical and or mental health professional as needed.

[Raj Panjabi]

This community is here for you though, if you need dish towel recommendations.

[Noah Michaelson]

Would you consider yourself a dish towel expert?

[Raj Panjabi]

I am not. But what I mean is, even though we are not experts, our community might be. And that's true. Dish towel recommendations don't typically require mental health professionals. So we had a really good time with dish towel recommendations a good season ago. So that. That's just what I thought of when you did the disclaimer this time.

[Noah Michaelson]

That's so funny. Well, yeah. How's it going? How was your weekend?

[Raj Panjabi]

Oh, man. I am still recovering from this past weekend. Some things happened that were planned. Some things happened that were. That were unplanned.

[Noah Michaelson]

Wow.

[Raj Panjabi]

But the conclusion was when Rob left my house this morning, he was like, I'm getting out of here. We are over scheduled. I need to go to my cave. And basically we found out on Friday, like late Friday or maybe late Thursday night, maybe the night before that. G Love, who is a big Philly musician, that he used to be into like 30 years ago. And has continued to be a very successful touring musician. Collaborated with Jack Johnson, which is how I knew him back in the aughts when Jack Johnson and G Love had some collabs that then brought G Love into my consciousness. G Love was playing the golf course. The nearby golf course. I guess he has just finished a tour and was doing a favor for a friend and was headlining the golf course concert series that happens every summer near me here on the west side. And Rob was like, oh my God, G Love, we have to go. And so that started our weekend. He was very good. The last time that he had seen him was the 90s and the last. And then I texted a photo to Dor and Dorie. You last saw him in the 90s too, too.

[Noah Michaelson]

I sure did. I sure did. I saw him in 19, I think, like, I think I saw him like my first semester of undergrad. I probably have the ticket stub somewhere.

[Raj Panjabi]

That's. That's amazing. That would be amazing. And he is just such an entertaining musician because he was able to before he get. Got other folks on stage. He was playing percussion with his feet and guitar with instrument and everything with his hands and arms and he was playing harmonica. That was mounted on him.

[Noah Michaelson]

He's a one man band.

[Raj Panjabi]

He really, truly is a one man band. It was so good. And because it was the golf course, you could just get right up on there onto the stage, like nearly onto the stage. It's rare that there's a big show where you can get so close anymore.

[Noah Michaelson]

I love that. I had a great time looking through some old ticket stubs here. You know, back in the day, seeing live music was not that expensive.

[Raj Panjabi]

No, it wasn't.

[Noah Michaelson]

And now it's really expensive. So, you know, a not wealthy college student like me could, could go to a lot of great shows. It's like sad.

[Raj Panjabi]

Yeah.

[Noah Michaelson]

All this stuff is so expensive now.

[Raj Panjabi]

It really is.

[Noah Michaelson]

Now I'm like determined to find this. I realize that this is a real. This is like real side quest.

[Raj Panjabi]

I didn't mean to send you down this rabbit hole. And speaking of rabbit holes, Luna was in a show. Alice in Wonderland junior.

[Noah Michaelson]

Oh my God.

[Raj Panjabi]

It made me realize that that whole play or that whole story is just one long extended trip. I realized I hadn't seen Alice in Wonderland perform and it felt like such an acid trip until one of the other parents reminded me, well, the whole story of Alice in Wonderland is the story of basically a trip she goes on. Totally, essentially like a consciousness bending trip. So it would make Sense. And she was correct, right?

[Noah Michaelson]

Yes. That's very funny. Who, Sorry, did I ask you who Luna played?

[Raj Panjabi]

She was in, like, the company she played. She didn't have any speaking parts. She was the nine of spades or something. She was like a giant card. A giant card. It was very cute. I was just relieved that it wasn't another Disney musical because they have been in many school musical productions of various Disney shows and I was ready for something different. So that went well. The reason why I'm so. I'm in recovery, though, is because Sunday was crazy. Sunday I decided to run a 5k with the students who run as part of the LA marathon training program. There's this great group in LA called Students Run la, where public school kids can take part in running clubs at their school. And they run a series of road races throughout the year, all culminating with the LA Marathon. And so some of the kids, if you're. And you can start. Cool. Yeah. And you can start in middle school. And so some of the kids who are graduating this year, they've run six LA marathons in a row because they did it in 7th, 8th, 9th, 10th, 11th and 12. Incredible. And they had kind of like an end of the year closing run, just an easy 5K through Boyle Heights. And my. One of my documentary film subjects was in it. So I was like, I'm going to run with you, you guys. And we got to do it together. And they closed down the new 6th Street Bridge and we got to run over the 6th Street Bridge and the LA river. And it was really, actually kind of cool. And my friend Amanda, who's a real Northern Californian, she was like, what is this strange feeling? I've never felt it before. Is it affection for la? She couldn't figure it out. Yeah, my running buddy, she's funny. And yeah, so we both, like, had a good time. But then I had to keep shooting with Abel that day, so we were way out of town and I. I couldn't get back to my home on the other side of town. And this is how spread out LA is. I couldn't get back home in time to shower and then drive back in order to continue the documentary shoot. So I got a hotel room for the morning in Pasadena just to shower because that's how spread out LA is. And I had some extra Marriott points, so obviously I didn't want to spend money on it, but I spent points on it. I showered and then continued the day because they had an end of the season banquet which was supposed to be outside and yesterday was very cold and rainy. And so we got rained on for a few hours after running the 5K. And then there was an outdoor book event where I met your friend Zan. Yesterday we did a charity book event.

[Noah Michaelson]

Friend and former Forever 35 guest, Zan Romanoff.

[Raj Panjabi]

Zan Romanoff. Yeah. I was really excited to meet her.

[Noah Michaelson]

Amazing writer.

[Raj Panjabi]

She was signing copies of Big fan, Her book that I've already recommended in our pop culture recs episodes last summer. And, yeah, by the time I got back home last night. Oh, and then we have dinner. We had to go out to dinner with Rob and his mom last night that was previously scheduled. So by the time we were at dinner, even I couldn't form words. It was just like, no cognition. And I had actually asked Rob before we went to dinner. I was like, please don't ask me any questions or make me speak. I cannot speak. And I was just so tired. And then, of course, we get there and he forgets, and he's like, oh, so, Elise, you're working on a new thing lately? And I'm like, nope.

[Noah Michaelson]

Oh, God.

[Raj Panjabi]

I'm somewhat recovered now. Anyway, you catch me up. Tell me about what you've been up to.

[Noah Michaelson]

Well, you know, we. We were supposed to have a sort of overstuffed Saturday with kids stuff. Henry was supposed to have soccer. Then we were gonna go to synagogue with one of his classmates. Then he was gonna go to a birthday party. But then Henry got sick Friday night. So Henry spent Saturday in front of the TV on the couch with a fever? Oh, no, not really. Any other symptoms except, like, a headache.

[Raj Panjabi]

Is he feeling better now?

[Noah Michaelson]

Yes, he is. He was feeling better Sunday. His fever was, like, a hundred. It wasn't like a. Like, he wasn't super sick, but he was sick enough that, like, I was not going to send him to a birthday party.

[Raj Panjabi]

Yeah, yeah.

[Noah Michaelson]

And then I had a werewolf party Saturday night. And if you're not familiar with werewolf, it's basically traitors. So there's werewolves and villagers instead of traitors and faithfuls. And someone plays the role of Alan Cumming, the mayor, and kind of is like the ringleader of the whole thing. And it was with a group of moms that I'm like, part of a big mom Facebook group, and we go on an annual retreat.

[Raj Panjabi]

Oh, that's right.

[Noah Michaelson]

And we always play a big game of werewol. And so someone. One of the. One of the women was like, let's have a werewolf party. Because it's like, it's kind of halfway through the year. Yeah, like, when we usually have the retreat. So it was really nice. It was really nice to see all these women who I don't see on, like, a regular basis. Yeah, it was super fun. It was really, really fun.

[Raj Panjabi]

Sounds rad. Yeah.

[Noah Michaelson]

Yeah. So good. And then, yeah, then Sunday, Henry was feeling well enough to go to his baseball game, so we did that. And then I taught mahjong on Sunday night. So, yeah, it was a good. It was a nice weekend.

[Raj Panjabi]

Good. I'm glad that you got to play werewolf. Maybe if whenever you do feel like doing some sort of party, you should be. You should be the mayor. Like, you should run a werewolf game with all your people.

[Noah Michaelson]

Wait, why? Why me?

[Raj Panjabi]

Because you love it. Like, you could be the coming of a thing.

[Noah Michaelson]

But it's fun to play, you know?

[Raj Panjabi]

Yep.

[Noah Michaelson]

It's fun to play the girl.

[Raj Panjabi]

All my. All my kids have really enjoyed playing werewolf or mafia, however you want to, whichever iteration that you want to call it. And they do it like, you know, when they do summer day camps and things like that, but I always find it so confusing. And then I don't know if they're doing the rules like they're playing by the rules correctly or giving them. Giving away things too early.

[Noah Michaelson]

That's so funny. Well, Elise, let's take a little break before. But before we do that, I. I would love to be getting more. More communications from listeners. You can call or text us at 781-591-0390. You can email us at forever35podcastmail.com these mini apps like Live or Die by your messages, so please send them to us. Our website is forever35podcast.com. We have links there to everything we mentioned on the show. We're on Instagram @forever35podcast. Our newsletter is @forever35podcast.com newsletter and you can shop our favorite products at shopmy us. Slash forever35. Oh, and also, I just want to put in a plug for money questions. We are doing an upcoming series of episodes on money and, you know, personal finance and all that kind of stuff. So write in, call in with your money questions, and we are going to have an expert come on and answer some of them. So please do that. All right, we are now going to take a short break and we will be right back.

[Raj Panjabi]

We'll be right back.

[Noah Michaelson]

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[Raj Panjabi]

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[Noah Michaelson]

And I'm Noah Michaelson, also from HuffPost, and we're the hosts of Am I Doing It Wrong? A new podcast that explores the all.

[Raj Panjabi]

Too human anxieties we have about trying.

[Noah Michaelson]

To get our lives Right.

[Raj Panjabi]

Each week on the podcast, Raj and I pick a new topic that we want to understand better and bring a guest expert on to talk us through how to get it right. And we're talking like legit, credible experts, doctors, PhDs all around. Superheroes from Huckposts and Acast Studios.

[Noah Michaelson]

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[Raj Panjabi]

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All right, we are back and we have a voicemail.

[Dory Shafrier]

Hey Elise and Dory, I'm calling with a product reference. This is my first ever call in for a product reference. I wanted to recommend the Wonder Skin Wonder Blading lip color kit. I was very skeptical of this but intrigued because it's a one of those peel off all day lip colors that I feel like is very TikTok trendy right now. But I was intrigued because I work a busy job in politics and so I like to look nice for work but I don't need to be putting lipstick on over and over again. And I tried it and it is amazing. I tried specifically the Adore color and it's really easy to put on. It looks gorgeous. I just did like two layers of it and then you spray on the stuff on top of it and then you wipe it off and the color did it faded by the end of the day but it stayed pretty much on all day long and I just feel like it looks really natural and I got the lip oil to put on top of it to make it a little shiny in the morning and then kind of just let that wear off within the spring. Color still stays on so I love it. I'm curious if anyone else has tried it and likes it and what other colors look Natural. And I also love that on their website they show the colors on lots of different skin tones so that you can see what it looks like and would look like on you. Okay, thanks so much. Bye.

[Raj Panjabi]

I like this because I have never. I've also been skeptical of this TikTok trend of these. Essentially, they're like lip masks. So this is the Wonder Skin. So folks who missed the voicemail, it's the Wonder Skin Wonder Blading Peel and Reveal Lip stain kit. So it's like a lip mask and then you remove the mask and the stain stays all day or should. And it comes in many, many colors. There's people demoing this on the old socials if you haven't seen them yet. But wow. We have a glowing from one of our listeners.

[Noah Michaelson]

Glowing.

[Raj Panjabi]

Yes. All right.

[Noah Michaelson]

Absolutely glowing.

[Raj Panjabi]

So any other Wonder Skin Peel and Reveal users out there, call in and let us know what your. What your experience has been or if you have any similar recs.

[Noah Michaelson]

Okay, thank you for that. We have another voicemail.

[Dory Shafrier]

This messages for Dory. This is about the Maelovs Glowmaker Vitamin C serum. I just want to let you know that a long time ago you guys did an interview with Chemist Confessions. They're two skin care chemists, Gloria and Victoria, and it introduced me to them in their world and now I am such big fans of them. About their book, I use their product line, they have face wash, this amazing kind of like aquifer like concoction called Balm Voyage. Anyway, and they have a podcast and a while ago they had a podcast on. It's worth looking back in their history about Dupes CE Ferulic SkinCeuticals, the OG one. As you know, Dory, the patent expired. So that's why you see a lot of dupes now. And they, they tested these dupes with an oven and using some sort of, I don't know, formal way. And may love actually came to the top as one of the best ones. And also to the listener, it cannot be an in a pump, a true vitamin C because it oxidizes. So it needs that little bubble to be able to kind of expand. Yeah, I wouldn't trust vitamin C in a pump in a million years. So anyway, I think the chemistry of skincare is super cool and it's not something I was exposed to or knew a lot about until I heard them on Forever 35 and now I know tons about it. So anyway, I love, I love, love, love that made love so happy about the price of it. All right, thanks. Bye bye.

[Raj Panjabi]

Amazing. Yeah. There is so much chemistry involved, the temperature that things need to be. To be the most like to stay most potent and all this. Fascinating.

[Noah Michaelson]

I'm trying to remember where I read this thing about the pump, because that was definitely something that was, like, in my head. So where did I get that from?

[Raj Panjabi]

No idea.

[Noah Michaelson]

I don't know. I will report back. I will try to find this.

[Raj Panjabi]

Okay.

[Noah Michaelson]

But, yes, I'm glad that my love sort of, like, came out on top. It is really good, and it is substantially cheaper than the skinceuticals. Like, insanely. Okay. We also got a text that said, hi, y'all. I'm wondering if you or any listeners might have a dupe recommendation for a discontinued product conundrum. My husband loves the Tom Ford for Men bronzer. It's a thin liquid formula. TF has discontinued its men's line, so my husband has been rationing it, but it's finally almost at the end of the tube. I'm wondering what might be a good replacement. I've seen that Elf has one that has been cited as a dupe, and I always love their prod. So think it may be a good option, but would love to hear any other suggestions.

[Raj Panjabi]

I don't know any off the top of my head, but this is exactly the kind of question to bring to our crowd. So call in, write in, text us, let us know. Have you tried the Elf dupe for Tom Ford for Men Bronzer? And do you like it? If that one suffices. And if not, are there other potential dupes for the Tom Ford for Men bronzer to help with this listener's husband's product conundrum?

[Noah Michaelson]

So this is very funny. I'm watching an Instagram video where someone had this exact conundrum, and their. Their recommendation was the Elf bronzing gel. These are gels, but, like, they. They refer to them as gels, by the way.

[Raj Panjabi]

Okay.

[Noah Michaelson]

Or bronzing drops. Elf bronzing drops. But the Tom Ford was a bronzing gel.

[Raj Panjabi]

Got it.

[Noah Michaelson]

But what this. What this person is putting on their hand, the Elf, I mean, this is. This is foundation. Like, am I crazy?

[Raj Panjabi]

This is.

[Noah Michaelson]

This is like just foundation. I know that they're calling it bronzing gel, but it really. It looks like foundation.

[Raj Panjabi]

Well, I sure hope it has sunscreen in it. So long it. So long as it has SPF in it, I'm down.

[Noah Michaelson]

I don't. I don't think it. I don't think it does, but I.

[Raj Panjabi]

Which prompts me then to ask if it doesn't have sunscreen in it. Why not? Why not?

[Noah Michaelson]

Well, and also, like, why not use. So. So ELF refers to it as a tinted serum.

[Raj Panjabi]

Hmm.

[Noah Michaelson]

But it does not have SPF in it. I believe that it is meant to be layered. Like they say, mix with your favorite moisturizer.

[Raj Panjabi]

I see.

[Noah Michaelson]

I mean, what about just a tinted moisturizer?

[Raj Panjabi]

Okay, Yep, yep.

[Noah Michaelson]

I'm just gonna throw that out there. But I would love to hear if other. If other listeners have any specific suggestions for this dupe conundrum.

[Raj Panjabi]

A dupe dilemma.

[Noah Michaelson]

Dupe dilemma. Duplemma. All right, we are going to take another short break and we will be right back with some podcast recommendations.

[Raj Panjabi]

Oh yeah, stick with us.

[Noah Michaelson]

All right, we are back and we had a request recently for some podcasts that were sort of similar in vibe to Forever 35. I think the, the listener wanted like chatty conversational pods with hosts that had like a rapport. And we had some suggestions. Listeners had some more suggestions. So here we go with a voicemail with some suggestions.

[Dory Shafrier]

Hello, Dory and Elise, this is Emma from Chicago. I am calling with some podcast recommendations for the listener who called in on Minneap441. And the podcast I recommend for her and other Forever 35 listeners that you didn't already mention are Culture Study by Anne Helen Peterson. She has great guests and covers all types of topics in pop cultures, in pop culture. She's super smart and interesting. Vibe check with your friend Sam Sanders, Saeed Jones and Zach Stafford, all three brilliant people and always covering interesting topics in news and culture. And the last is Be There in Five by Kate Kennedy, another brilliant person, writer, pop culture expert who does long form podcasts on her own and also with guests. Those are in my rotation and highly recommendations for the listener and others. Bye.

[Raj Panjabi]

Love those. I should, I mean, it should have been obvious that I, I am a frequent listener of Vibe Check. And Sam is one of my besties. And that show is so good. They're so good on like news topics too. Like I'm going back to, I'm thinking about like the Columbia University protests and Saeed was really good, like right after. Right after all of that was really exploding. It's ostensibly a pop culture podcast, but they also talk about whatever's really in the headlines also. And they've had some really fun conversations about. We had Stacey Abrams on this week and she talks about, if you haven't listened to it, she talks about how much she loves television and one of the shows that she really loves is Spoiler Alert. If you haven't Heard this episode, Reacher, Reacher, the series on, I think Amazon prime and Saeed Jones on Vibe check. Huge Reacher fan also. And so it's like a running in. It's a running joke about how he needs to, like, get off the pod so he can go watch Reacher. So that's what made me think of it.

[Noah Michaelson]

I mean, look, I. I'm. I think I might start watching Reacher. It actually does sound like something I would enjoy. Because, honestly, except for, like, the Pit, as we've discussed, I'm a little nervous about the gore. But, like, several of the other shows she mentioned are shows I've really liked. Like the Diplomat, like, I like, you know, and these are basically the books she writes too. Like, I kind of like this whole vibe. So, you know, so I think I. I think I might get into Reacher. You heard it here first. Yeah. I've known Saeed forever because he worked at Buzzfeed.

[Raj Panjabi]

Yeah, that's right. That's right. He's such a character.

[Noah Michaelson]

He is such a character. Okay, so we got another text with some products. This listener also recommends vibe check with former guest Sam Sanders. Bad on Paper, which is another. I think we've had at least one of their hosts on the show. That's also a great pod. Be There in five. Oh, my God. I can't believe we forgot about be there in 5K. Kennedy is just. I love her so much. She's just such a genius. And she does have guests on, but she also spends a very substantial portion of the show just monologuing.

[Raj Panjabi]

Yeah, she's amazing.

[Noah Michaelson]

Few people that can do that. That is very hard. That is very, very, extremely hard to monologue, interestingly.

[Raj Panjabi]

Right, Right.

[Noah Michaelson]

For like an hour, like, longer. I mean, it's truly. It's unbelievable. And I just love her take on things and her deep dives, and she's just so wonderful. Normal Gossip and who Weekly. Who Weekly. Such a classic. Yeah.

[Raj Panjabi]

Yep.

[Noah Michaelson]

It's so funny. We've had all. We've had Kate on. We had Kelsey on from Normal Gossip, and we've had Lindsay on from who Weekly. So we've had. We've had a lot of. We've had all these hosts on. That's fun.

[Raj Panjabi]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Noah Michaelson]

All right, well, listeners, if you. Yes. If you have more podcast re, let us know. I also loved that we got some product reqs and a product question this week. So if you have more product wrecks, get at us.

[Raj Panjabi]

Keep them coming, Elise.

[Noah Michaelson]

Also, just quickly, before we go, I was going to talk about my dermatologist appointment this morning. Where I got an update on my hair and we didn't really have time. So I think I'm going to save it for the casual chat on Friday, so.

[Raj Panjabi]

Okay, good. Casual chat. Come out on Friday. Yes, if you are subscribed to our Patreon, we can. You can get the update first.

[Noah Michaelson]

You can get the scoop on my hair. All right, we will talk to you all soon. Bye.

[Raj Panjabi]

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