Mini-Ep 454: We Love A Bucket

Summary

Forever35 - Mini-Ep 454: We Love A Bucket

Release Date: July 30, 2025
Hosts: Doree Shafrir & Elise Hu

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Introduction

In this special mini-episode of Forever35, co-hosts Doree Shafrir and Elise Hu engage with their listeners by sharing comments, answering questions, and discussing various personal and relatable topics. True to their style, the conversation is infused with humor, self-awareness, and heartfelt honesty.

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Elise's Experience with Altitude Sickness

The episode kicks off with Elise recounting her recent trip to Aspen for a seminar at the Aspen Institute. Battling unexpected altitude sickness, she describes her symptoms and the unconventional remedy that helped her feel better.

Elise Hu [01:39]: "When I got here, I immediately felt altitude sickness. It's like having a hangover after not having consumed any alcohol."

Elise praises the use of recreational oxygen canisters available at her hotel, highlighting their effectiveness in alleviating her discomfort.

Elise Hu [02:58]: "What really made a difference for me was oxygen, just getting more oxygen."

Despite her initial struggles, she appreciates Aspen's beauty and cycling-friendly environment, although a mishap with bike rentals resulted in an unexpected charge.

Elise Hu [04:50]: "I just got this email saying, hey, your bike rental is still open. We've charged your card $300."

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Listener Appreciation and Personal Updates

Doree shares a heartwarming message from a listener appreciating Elise's composed demeanor during her recent breast cancer screening revelation.

Doree Shafrir [06:23]: "I'm inspired by how calm Elise was about the breast cancer screen that revealed a small mass that needs to be biopsied... Thank you for modeling that."

Elise responds with gratitude, attributing her calmness to her mother's support and emphasizing the importance of having loved ones during uncertain times.

Elise Hu [07:19]: "Credit to my mom. She was just very sanguine and she was like, it's probably nothing because I also had them."

The hosts reaffirm their commitment to supporting listeners while encouraging professional medical and mental health support when needed.

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Discussing Death with Children

A significant portion of the episode is dedicated to addressing listeners' questions about explaining death to children. A listener named Michelle shares her heartfelt voicemail detailing how she navigated this challenging conversation with her two-year-old following the loss of her stepmother.

Michelle [10:51]: "I ended up explaining it with saying, well, you know, like when we break something, we don't have it anymore... She is still processing it."

Doree and Elise discuss the nuances of such conversations, emphasizing trust in children's capacity to understand and handle difficult topics. They reference popular media, notably Pixar films, as tools to facilitate these discussions.

Doree Shafrir [13:09]: "I thought this was a really nice way to frame it. So I really appreciated this voicemail."

Elise reflects on the portrayal of death in movies like Frozen, Big Hero 6, and Coco, analyzing their impact on children's understanding of loss.

Elise Hu [14:17]: "It seems to be, like, a real trope or having to say goodbye to your parents one way or the other."

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Product Recommendations and Listener Interactions

The hosts engage with listeners by sharing and soliciting product recommendations. A listener suggests the Happy Color app as a mindful alternative to social media.

Listener [16:23]: "Happy Color... as a way to keep myself from doom scrolling but still having the distraction of being on my phone."

Doree and Elise respond with their favorite products, including dish cloths and rags, offering specific recommendations like Geometry dish towels and affordable options from IKEA.

Doree Shafrir [18:45]: "We have the Williams Sonoma ones at my house that I think are far more affordable."

They also announce a discount code for Geometry dish towels, enhancing listener engagement.

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Favorite Recent Purchases

Shifting to lighter topics, Doree and Elise share their latest favorite purchases from Trader Joe's and Costco.

Elise's Picks:

• Pink Coconut Water: A budget-friendly alternative to pricier brands like Harmless Harvest.

  Elise Hu [22:16]: "I just got super into... pink coconut water. It's super affordable, super hydrating."

• La Colombe Oat Milk Lattes: Convenient for early mornings and praised for their quality.

  Elise Hu [22:24]: "La Colombe oat milk lattes... available at Trader Joe's and not available at other grocery stores."

Doree's Picks:

• Strained, Thick, and Creamy Greek Yogurt: Appreciated for its texture and quality, despite being pricier than regular options.

  Doree Shafrir [23:42]: "We have been really enjoying the strained, thick and creamy Greek yogurt."

• Costco Branded Buckets: Versatile for various uses beyond their traditional role.

  Doree Shafrir [25:41]: "The Costco bucket... you can use them for so many purposes."

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Conclusion and Upcoming Changes

As the episode wraps up, Doree informs listeners of her upcoming vacation, signaling a temporary shift to reruns and regular programming.

Doree Shafrir [26:03]: "Next week's mini ep will be a rerun of sorts of the full-length episodes."

Elise warmly acknowledges Doree's well-deserved break, ensuring listeners of their continued connection.

Elise Hu [26:36]: "Summer vacay much deserved. You deserve a break."

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Notable Quotes

• Elise on Altitude Sickness:
  "It's like having a hangover after not having consumed any alcohol." [01:39]

• Elise on Oxygen Canisters:
  "What really made a difference for me was oxygen, just getting more oxygen." [02:58]

• Listener Michelle on Explaining Death:
  "We won't be able to see her or hug her anymore." [10:51]

• Doree on Pixar Films:
  "Almost 90% of Pixar movies have death in them." [13:09]

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Final Thoughts

Forever35 continues to blend personal anecdotes with listener interactions, creating a space where difficult topics like health concerns and explaining death to children are navigated with grace and authenticity. The hosts' genuine conversations and practical recommendations make this mini-episode both engaging and insightful for new and returning listeners alike.

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Transcript

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[Elise Hu]

And I'm Elise Hu. And we're just two friends who like to talk a lot about serums.

[Dory Shafrir]

And this is a mini episode where we hear from you, we share your comments and your thoughts, and we answer your questions to the best of our ability. But please remember, we are not experts. We're podcast hosts and we always encourage you to seek support, first and foremost from a medical and or mental health professional as needed.

[Elise Hu]

Yes, yes. And instead of a serum, I just want to sing the praises of a spray that I've been using. You are catching me in Aspen this week. I am with the Aspen Institute this week where they have various gatherings and seminars throughout the year. And I'm at a seminar that's very, like, optimistic and it's full of policy people talking about children and families and social change and all these things. But I, when I got here, I immediately felt altitude sickness. It's like having a hangover. Yeah, it's like having a hangover after not having consumed any alcohol. And so I was nauseated, I was tired, like I passed out. I just fell asleep, which is unusual for me. I don't us sleep in the middle of the day and I had a headache and I know dehydration is usually a main culprit, so I tried to drink a lot of water. But what really made a difference for me was oxygen, just getting more oxygen. So I just want to shout out oxygen plus canisters. You can just spray oxygen into your mouth. I'm holding it up here. It's pure recreational oxygen is what it's called.

[Dory Shafrir]

Okay.

[Elise Hu]

And mine is from energy recovery or energy plus recovery. And it's just they have this in all the hotel rooms along with humidifiers.

[Dory Shafrir]

Wow.

[Elise Hu]

In order to help you with the altitude sickness. I have different responses to it. Like sometimes it's totally fine. Like last year we went to Jackson Hole, which is also 7,000ft above sea level. But Aspen, I think is a little bit maybe higher elevation slightly, and maybe that made the difference. Or I've just come here a little bit more tired this time. Or I'm a year older. Who knows? It just hit me differently. And yeah, I've actually had to go and seek oxygen inputs to get by.

[Dory Shafrir]

Oh, man.

[Elise Hu]

Yeah.

[Dory Shafrir]

Yeah. Every time I've gone to, like any place at altitude, they're always. I always remember people saying, one drink equals two. One drink equals two.

[Elise Hu]

I mean, zero drinks equals one. It's right. Yeah. I.

[Dory Shafrir]

It's funny. Math.

[Elise Hu]

Yeah. So weird. But it makes me a cheap date. So I got that going for me, which is nice. And then Aspen is like so beautiful in the summer and it's very.

[Listener]

She. She.

[Elise Hu]

It's so crazy that there's like, it's like a small ski town, right? But there's Prada and Gucci and Bottega Veneta and all these shops. And I was just like. So I guess I can't find a Zara. I just needed a cheap dress because I didn't. I didn't have something to wear to this, like, dressier dinner. And I was just like, is there not a Zara? Can I not? And no. The answer is no. The closest Zara is in a Zara Denver. No, I cannot. There's like, there's Prada if I want to get a dress there.

[Dory Shafrir]

That's really funny.

[Elise Hu]

So it's kind of funny. But what's really lovely is that you get to bike around everywhere. It's very cycling friendly.

[Dory Shafrir]

Oh, that's cool.

[Elise Hu]

Yeah. And so the hotel is a 4 minute bike ride from the Aspen Meadows Resort, which is where all the Aspen Institute forums are. You know, the famous Aspen Security Forum is there every year and the Aspen Ideas Festival is there and they have like the big music pavilion and all those things. And it's four minutes away. And I'm renting these bikes, which you can rent for free for 30 minutes. So I'm like, great, cool. I only need a bike for four minutes. I'm going to pick up the bike here. At the station, and then I'm going to park it when I get to my location and vice versa. So this afternoon I was coming back from the Meadows resort to the hotel and I rented a bike for approximately four minutes, so way under the 30 minute window. And I just now got this email saying, hey, your bike rental is still open. We've charged your card $300.

[Dory Shafrir]

Oh, my God.

[Elise Hu]

So due to user error, because I'm sure, like, either I didn't park the bike back and it's still an open rental, or when I first tried to rent a bike and like the code wouldn't unlock it, I got a second one. So maybe that original one is still open, but I can't find any help for it. So we cycle. We cycle. If you hear this, I need to talk to somebody. Oh, my God. Is it just gonna keep charging? I have no idea.

[Dory Shafrir]

So you weren't able to get it resolved?

[Elise Hu]

No, it's not resolved yet. This is an open ticket.

[Dory Shafrir]

Oh, dear. Oh, dear.

[Elise Hu]

Okay, yes, I'm gonna try and get it resolved after we finish recording.

[Dory Shafrir]

But oh, man.

[Elise Hu]

First we're going to try and resolve our listener questions and comments.

[Dory Shafrir]

Nice segue, Elise. We actually got a text about something that we talked about on a recent episode, and this text said, I'm inspired by how calm Elise was about the breast cancer screen that revealed a small mass that needs to be biopsied on today's episode. It's an amazing example of staying grounded and patient in moments that are out of your control. Thinking of you and thank you for modeling that. Prayer hands.

[Elise Hu]

Well, thank you. That's very sweet. Yeah, this is truly out of my control and I don't have any answers. There's no way to know until the biopsy actually, actually happens, which is going to be in early August. So it's not that long to wait. One, and then two. Like, if there is something to worry about, I'll have plenty of time to worry about it later.

[Dory Shafrir]

So for now.

[Elise Hu]

I haven't really thought about it that much at all. This bike charge concern is really at the top of mind currently.

[Dory Shafrir]

Yeah, I think, I mean, I. I think that, that this listener is so right though. Like, I think it's so easy to just like spiral about, especially about health stuff. And I thought you did have a really just grounded attitude about it.

[Elise Hu]

Well, credit to my mom. I think calling my mom really helped because my mom is not a very anxious person and it helps to not, you know, to have a mom like that in that she was just very sanguine and she was like, it's probably nothing because I also had them. So it also helped that my mom had some lumps removed that were benign. And so my assumption is positive. But also she was like, but if it is something to worry about, then we'll find out soon enough. So it was really helpful, I think, just to have people around. So credit to credit to the loved ones.

[Dory Shafrir]

Well, Elise, before we take a break, I just want to remind everyone, please call or text us at 781-591-0390 or email us at forever35podcastmail.com I also want to mention if you do want to call us and leave us a voicemail, the quality is like 500,000 times better. If you record it as a voice memo and email it to us, please don't text it to us. I know this is like very specific, but we use Google Voice and you can't like download stuff from Google Voice and so if you email us the voicemails, that is, that is the best, the best way like quality wise to get us a voice recording. So we greatly appreciate your attention to this matter. But also keep those, keep those emails and texts and voicemails coming. You know these episodes live and die by your communiques. So please do reach out. Also, Our website is forever35podcast.com. We have links there to everything we mention on the show. You can follow us on Instagram @forever35podcast. You can sign up for our [e-mail] newsletter and our favorite products are at Shop My Us Forever 35. And after the break, we have a couple of messages from listeners about talking about death with kids.

[Elise Hu]

All right, we'll be right back.

[Dory Shafrir]

We'll be right back.

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[Dory Shafrir]

All right, we are back. And I want to kick things off with a voicemail.

[Michelle]

Hi, this is Michelle. I had a pause, the pod moment in response to the caller asking about how to explain death to a child. I recently lost my stepmother and I have a two year old and we live far from them, so we suffered them pretty sporadically just because of distance and, and. But we traveled for the funeral and so very similar to what Dori and Elise said, we talked very practically that she was sick and the doctors tried to make her better, but they couldn't do it. And one thing that really was hard with her because of her age was the permanency of it because she was like, well, when will we see her? And we were like, well, we can't. And she. It took her a little time to get that in a way. I ended up explaining it with saying, well, you know, like when we break something, we don't have it anymore. And since grandma died, we don't have her anymore. But we can think about her and we can look at pictures of her, but we won't be able to see her or hug her anymore. She is still processing it. This happened in mid June. And we still get some questions that are randomly out of nowhere, like why did grandma die? Why couldn't the doctors help her sometimes intermix with very other random questions like why do boys peace in? So there's some emotional whiplash for me as I'm addressing these questions, but I think being very matter of fact about the physical aspect of it and the permanency of it has been really helpful for her to understand that. And so good luck to the listener or anybody else when they are dealing with these conversations. I just want to say that I'm so sorry to Dori for loss and I always appreciate hearing Story and Elise talk about their lives and being so honest about them. So thank you for sharing those things with us as well. All right, that's all. Bye.

[Elise Hu]

Thanks, Michelle. I really like that. I like just trusting kids having this fundamental trust in kids that like they can understand things and they can handle tougher topics and just, you know, having faith in kids. That's. That's a lovely place to start from.

[Dory Shafrir]

Yeah, I thought this was a really nice way to frame it. So I really appreciated this voicemail. And then we got an email from a listener that says, I took a class for my child life certificate called Death, Dying and grief. Almost 90% of Pixar movies have death in them. So kids are familiar with the concept and it isn't as scary as we think. Frozen the parents die right away. Big Hero 6. The parents are dead to start. The brother dies a third into the movie, and the baymax dies towards the end. Spoiler alert. I'm just kidding, Coco. Our loved ones are still there. So many other examples that you can use as a jumping off place for your kids.

[Elise Hu]

Yeah, yeah.

[Dory Shafrir]

I mean, I like. I don't, like, love that Disney and Pixar movies all have dead parents. Like, that is not an aspect of those movies that I think is, like, great. It's like, can't we use another device to, like, get the story going? I don't know. I mean, I know that a lot of them are based on fairy tales where, like, that's what happens, but still.

[Elise Hu]

Well, Little Mermaid. I cried my eyes out at the animated Little mermaid at age 6 or 7 whenever it came out in the theaters. And I saw it in the theaters because she decides at the end. Spoiler alert. Spoiler alert.

[Dory Shafrir]

Spoiler alert for the Little Mermaid just coming up.

[Elise Hu]

She decides that, the first of all, Prince Eric is hot. Prince Eric is so hot. He's, like, very much my flavor. But that is not why I cried. I did not cry over that. I cried over the fact that she makes the decision at the end. In order to be with Prince Eric, she has to kind of say goodbye to King Triton, her dad. And I was really. I don't know. That just, like, got me in all the feels that she said goodbye to her dad, who, like, took such good care of her and was, like, so protective of her, which was kind of like the inciting device of the whole story.

[Listener]

Right.

[Elise Hu]

Really getting into Little Mermaid analysis. But this was unintended. But, yeah. So not. Yes. Missing parents. It seems to be, like, a real trope or having to say goodbye to your parents one way or the other, so. But Coco does do it. Well, I'm glad she mentioned Coco, because Coco does such a good job of just, like, the idea of spiritual connection with our ancestors.

[Dory Shafrir]

And I love that I still haven't seen Coco.

[Elise Hu]

Oh, so good. So good. I don't know if Henry will like it, because I don't know enough about his Disney preferences.

[Dory Shafrir]

But, yeah, I. He. I mean, he really doesn't like anything with, like. Doesn't like anything with any, like, suspense or anything really scary. And so a lot of these movies will get, like, you know, 15 minutes in, there's something scary that happens, and he's like, nope, turn it off. Although he has made it through Frozen, and he likes Frozen.

[Elise Hu]

Yeah.

[Dory Shafrir]

So I don't.

[Elise Hu]

You can Watch Coco just for yourself too. There's so many great Pixar movies and, and totally, totally great for just us too.

[Dory Shafrir]

All right, we have another voicemail.

[Listener]

Hi Elise and door calling to plus one a couple recommendations from the podcast as well as ask for my own recommendation. So the first I have is this is recommended by a guest several months ago but it's an app called Happy Color which is a paint by number kind of app for your phone. And I downloaded it around the election time as a way to get keep myself from doom scrolling but still having the distraction of being on my phone. So I just wanted to add that for anyone who needs something to do on their phone but doesn't want to be on social media all the time. The second is a podcast that Elise recommended which was who Shat on the Floor at my Wedding. And it's just incredible. And especially if you're needing a laugh during everything going on, I highly recommend that as well. And then the recommendations I am meeting are for dish cloths. Looking for some washcloth type things that I can use to, you know, wipe off the counter every day as well as wipe off my kids after meal time. My husband is a big fan of paper towels and Clorox wipes and I would really love to not use as many of those. So looking for something maybe quantity over quality in this case because we would go through a lot of them. Also want to add, I was not a huge fan of Swedish dishcloth, so maybe just some old fashioned dish rags like mom used to have around the kitchen. Would love to hear if anyone has any recommendations.

[Michelle]

Thank you.

[Dory Shafrir]

I was a little confused by this request because I don't know that I would necessarily use the same cloths for wiping my kids face as the ones that I'm using on my counter. I mean, I guess it doesn't really matter because you're washing them but. But I don't know, there was something about that that I was like feels like too multipurpose to me or something. I don't know. Do you have, do you have suggestions?

[Elise Hu]

Yeah, well my, what my delineation that I needed was whether we're looking for just rags, right. Or a dish towel because I certainly wipe off my kids with dish towels. And we had a series of conversations and recommendations about dish towels last summer. The consensus seemed to be targeting William Sonoma and geometry.

[Dory Shafrir]

We do have a discount code for geometry. It is forever 15 and you get 15% off.

[Elise Hu]

I love the geometry dish towels and they look great. They're super absorbent and you can wipe off your kids with them. So if you want a dish towel, then that's a recommendation. We also have the Williams Sonoma ones at my house that I think are far more affordable, so that's good. But it sounded towards the end of her voicemail like she was asking for, like, rags, you know, like dish rags, which are different than dish towels. And she said she didn't like the Swedish ones and wanted quantity over quality, in which case IKEA makes a lot of them that I like. Actually, I'll get, like, big bunches of dish rags from Ikea. And I think IKEA does online shopping now, too. Like, you don't have to schlep to a store and you could order dish rags there and just get a huge bundle of them.

[Dory Shafrir]

Yeah, for a low price. Yes. Good tip.

[Elise Hu]

But listeners let us know. So the request, it sounds like, is less for dish towels and more for rags that you can use.

[Dory Shafrir]

Yeah, that was my sense.

[Elise Hu]

Instead of a paper towel.

[Dory Shafrir]

Yes, yes, yes, yes. All right, Elise, we are going to take another short break, and when we come back, we're going to be talking a little bit about some. Some of the things that we have been buying and eating lately.

[Elise Hu]

Yeah, excited to talk about that.

[Dory Shafrir]

We'll be right back.

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[Dory Shafrir]

All right, we are back. Elise, is there anything from TJ's that you have been eating lately?

[Elise Hu]

I am super into. This isn't a new product that they just got or anything, but I just got super into. It is they have that pink coconut water. So there's very expensive Harmless harvest coconut water that's pink and they sell those for like $8 a bottle. But TJ's in its section, in its cold pressed juices section has pink coconut water. This is sort of near the La Colombe coffees that you also like to get, like the canned coffees, which I also like to get the lattes. So shout out again for the La Colombe oat milk lattes that I that are available at Trader Joe's and not available at other grocery stores. And I really like having those in my fridge for my zero period mornings when I have to get up super early to take Ava to school, which is happening to me again soon. So the La Colombe coffee, but also near there, there's pink coconut water. It's not called pink coconut coconut water, but the shade is pink. And I just don't remember what generic name they have for them. But look for those super affordable, super hydrating. And I feel a little thrill saving like $6 a bottle compared to Harmless Harvest.

[Dory Shafrir]

Yes, yes, yes.

[Elise Hu]

Yeah. What about you? What are you excited about?

[Dory Shafrir]

Well, I can't remember if I've mentioned this already, but we have been really enjoying the strained, thick and creamy Greek yogurt.

[Elise Hu]

No, they have new Greek. Oh, I don't even know about this because we always buy Greek yogurt there.

[Dory Shafrir]

Yeah. Okay. It's like within. I think it's within the last few months. And it's really good. And I like a full fat Greek yogurt. A lot of the Greek yogurt that has historically been sold at Trader Joe's. Not all of it, but a lot of it has been like non fat, which I just don't think tastes good, but the thick and creamy is really good. It's like, it's like really thick and creamy.

[Elise Hu]

That's awesome. We love a yogurt parfait for breakfast.

[Dory Shafrir]

Well, you will like this. You will like this yogurt and has like it. If you're a protein person, you're trying.

[Elise Hu]

To up your macros.

[Dory Shafrir]

It's more expensive than their regular Greek yogurt. Like it's like 5:49 or something. Which is like expensive for Trader Joe's. But I gotta tell you, the quality is there. The quality is there, Elise.

[Elise Hu]

Okay, okay. And I mentioned this at the top of the show, so just to. To shout out once again in case you only listen to many episodes and not Monday episodes, but Costco, currently at least the Costco near me is selling giant Costco branded buckets. And they're awesome and you can use them for so many purposes. Cleaning, making jungle juice inside painting. Other purposes that you need a giant bucket for that says Costco on it. So I have, I have now already put my Costco bucket to many other uses besides my party hosting. So if you are at Costco and in the market for any Costco branded stuff, the Costco bucket, let me just.

[Dory Shafrir]

Shout out once again, okay, Good to know listeners if you have any of these kinds of suggestions. We do love to hear them.

[Elise Hu]

And as Dori said, if you want to email [e-mail] you can email us a traditional email or you could just attach a voice memo and then we can get your voice in high quality.

[Dory Shafrir]

Yes, we love, we love a voice memo. Well, Elise, it's been great to see you. And just a programming note, I am on vacation next week, so next week's mini app will be a rerun of sorts of the full length episodes will be regularly scheduled programming. So just be aware of that. And I think there's also a casual chat that we might, that we might have to miss because of my schedule. So I apologize for that.

[Elise Hu]

Summer vacay much deserved. You deserve a break.

[Dory Shafrir]

Thank you. All right, talk to you soon.

[Elise Hu]

Okay, bye y'.

[Michelle]

All.

[Dory Shafrir]

Bye.