Elise Hu (2:53)

Also now we have a newsletter idea.

Dory Shafrir (2:55)

Yeah, totally.

Elise Hu (2:56)

We've done book recs, we've done dish towel racks. We've done our listeners candles.

Dory Shafrir (3:03)

So.

Elise Hu (3:03)

Or our guests favorite candles. And so I think given the amount of hair oil recommendations, just the sheer volume of recommendations of hair oils we've gotten in that. Yes, we've got to cover that one. We also, I think at the end of one of our Monday episodes did a call out for your micro joys. Because we do that every once in a while and it's around that time where we're calling out for micro joys. I've been thinking about my own as well because it's been a tough year. This is kind of schadenfreude. I don't know that it's a micro joy, but my micro joy of late has been watching Ted Cruz Tucker Carlson clips. Oh. Oh my gosh. If y' all haven't seen them, they're so hilarious. They're just like going at it with one another over Iran. Obviously only tempered by the severity and seriousness and grave like moral decay of this whole situation. But my friend Justin is visiting and the two of us were talking about it this morning because we're Texans and so.

Dory Shafrir (4:07)

Yes.

Elise Hu (4:08)

Yeah. And so my other Texas related thing is that in Texas, Texas is a flour tortilla land. It's the land of flour tortillas and not corn. And so we do flour tortillas very well. And one of the places that does flour tortillas best is H E B, the grocery store chain. And Justin brought like three 24 packs of flour tortillas from Texas to me, which I've already consumed one full pack. Yeah. So my micro joy has just been my buttery flour tortillas and then the memories of Texas that it conjures.

Dory Shafrir (4:44)

Yes.

Elise Hu (4:46)

Yeah. My. All of our Texas listeners will totally relate. H E B and Central Market are owned by the same company, so you can call them H E B flour tortillas or Central Market flour tortillas, but they are, they are loved. They're loved by Texans everywhere. Yeah. What about you? Have you thought about the prompt at all?

Dory Shafrir (5:04)

Well, I wanted to share one that we got from a listener, actually.

Elise Hu (5:09)

Okay. Hi. I'm just calling to leave my Micro joys currently in the dumpster fire that is the world right now. My escape is Love island or any other Bravo TV like Summer House, the Valley. I've been watching the mom talk stuff. It's all like pretty brain dead television, but it's helping me get through. And I'm also finding joy in my iced coffee. But yeah, I would say the biggest thing is Reality tv. But I'm excited to hear other people's micro joys, because I need any source of joy I can find. Thank you. Can we stay on this one? Because my eldest daughter, Ava has also gotten super into Love island, and I am not a Bravo TV girly, so I don't know the premise, but can you give me the whole Love island, like, Logline? What's the. What's. How. How does it work?

Dory Shafrir (6:15)

I mean, it's just like a bunch of hot people going to an island, and it's sort of like. It's almost like the Bachelor meets Survivor meets Big Brother, because I guess to survive, you have to, like, become a couple.

Elise Hu (6:38)

Oh, okay. So you're on an island. You can get kicked off in the same way as.

Dory Shafrir (6:43)

Yes.

Elise Hu (6:43)

You get kicked off on Survivor.

Dory Shafrir (6:45)

Yes. So if.

Elise Hu (6:47)

Or Bachelor.

Dory Shafrir (6:48)

Yeah. Like, as people couple together, you can get kicked off if you're still single, but you can also be voted off.

Elise Hu (6:55)

Oh, wow. There's so many ways to lose at this game.

Dory Shafrir (6:59)

Yes. Yes. I think it's a peacock show, which is, you know, part of the Bravo family, but it's. I don't think it's technically a Bravo show, but it was originally a British show. So the. The Love Island UK contestants have become, like, true D list celebrities in the uk. Like, they're widely known. I don't think the exact same thing has happened with the US Contestants, but, you know, they're definitely getting more famous, probably.

Elise Hu (7:39)

Okay. Yeah.

Dory Shafrir (7:40)

She.

Elise Hu (7:41)

Ava's super into it right now. I guess it's airing. I guess there's the fresh episodes. And I learned so much about culture from her, and so I guess that's, like, the thing. And then I was at one of my friends, like, open mic nights. My friend Matt was performing and kind of like an acoustic set like Nirvana Unplugged. And it was at this surf shop last Friday night, and we went to go see him, and then after. After he went on, this guy starts playing. This guy. He's like, I'm from San Diego, and that's all I remember about him. But then my friends who I was with, one of them was like, oh, that guy was on the Bachelor. So for our listeners who like reality TV and watch the Bachelor, it's this guy named Logan who was on the Bachelorette. So he was actually one of the suitors of the star. And I think it was the season of the Bachelorette in which they had two women. So you could actually have, you know, you could be with one. But then I think what happened was he really liked the other, but he got the rose from. Yeah, yeah. The Bachelor has been going on for so many years that I guess you can't throw a rock without accidentally hitting somebody who's been on the Bachelor.

Dory Shafrir (9:01)

Right. I love that. No, I mean, reality TV is definitely a micro joy. That actually reminds me of something that came up this past week. I was in Connecticut for my sister in law's funeral, and I'll talk more about her at a later date, but she was amazing, and she also loved the whole Bravo universe. And I guess she said to my brother at one point he said this in his eulogy, that she was like, please never do, like, a cancer, like, run or walk in my honor. Like, please never do that. All I want people to do is lie in bed and watch Real Housewives, like, in my honor. And that was just like she. Yeah, she was not like a big, like, worker outer. You know what I mean? Like, she really just loved, like, lying in bed and watching tv and she loved Bravo and she loved Real Housewives and. Yeah. So, you know, if you're so inclined, watch an episode of Real Housewives.

Elise Hu (10:05)

Okay. That's not a hard ask. I would much rather do that than run a mile or three or whatever.

Dory Shafrir (10:12)

Totally. I don't want to run like a marathon for her. I mean, you know, I love her, but much rather do a Real Housewives marathon.

Elise Hu (10:19)

Marathon.

Dory Shafrir (10:20)

Right, right.

Elise Hu (10:20)

Exactly.

Dory Shafrir (10:22)

Anyway, we should probably take a little break. All right. Before we do that, I just want to remind everyone that Our voicemail is 781-591-0390 and our email is forever35podcastmail.com. You can also visit our website, forever35podcast.com. We have links to everything we mentioned on the show. You can follow us on Instagram @forever35podcast. Sign up for our newsletter atforever35podcast.com newsletter and shop our favorite products at Shopmy Us. Slashforever35. And after the break, yes, we have more hair oil racks. And I. I was also asked for my recs on sun clothes, so I will share those as well.

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Okay, can't wait.

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All right, we'll be right back.

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Dory Shafrir (13:34)

Okay we are back and first someone texted us and said Bowdoin has a bunch of tennis patterned clothes this season and I want someone to buy them all for dory. And it's funny that they texted us this because I've been getting served these ads like on Instagram. Yeah totally. And some of this stuff is super cute.

Elise Hu (13:58)

I love Bowdoin I love like their pattern things.

Dory Shafrir (14:01)

It was a really pretty skirt. There's also like a really pretty dress that I was like, okay, this is a lot like, it's, it's a bright colored dress with just tennis rackets. Like.

Elise Hu (14:18)

You could pull that off.

Dory Shafrir (14:19)

I would, I would maybe wear this. It's a little expensive. I feel like Bowdoin has a lot of sales so I think I'm going to wait for. Yeah, A sale and maybe get it. Okay, well, thank you for this, for this tip. And if you have bought any of the Bowdoin tennis clothes, let us know what they're really like in real life. I want like a real person review of them.

Elise Hu (14:41)

There's a really cute. I almost got this for you too, but I didn't know if you had a spot for it. There's a very cute outdoor throw pillow from West Elm right now that has a tennis court on it across the front. Oh my gosh. Yeah, it's really cute actually. I thought. But then I'm like, this couldn't. I don't know if this goes with the rest of her kind of design, you know, and decor. So yeah, I don't want to just buy you a pillow and be like, yeah, now you have to deal with it because. Because Rob is still upset about his ex mother in law getting him menorah hand towels for his bathroom and he was like, I'm not going to use those.

Dory Shafrir (15:21)

Like, that's so funny.

Elise Hu (15:24)

So like, yeah, I feel like interior design things I'm a little bit more careful about. Besides just like wantonly buying you a towel set or.

Dory Shafrir (15:33)

That's fair, you know.

Elise Hu (15:34)

Also like, you can check it out.

Dory Shafrir (15:35)

It's very. Yeah, it's very thoughtful.

Elise Hu (15:39)

Thanks. Yeah, I mean it's very cute. I will link that too. I'll find it and link it in case any of you all are looking for something like this.

Dory Shafrir (15:46)

Amazing. Okay, so the next text we got was wondering if Dory has any sun clothes. Rex. I've used sun hoodies for years, but they tend to be a little frumpy. So in my opinion there's no like fashionable UV clothing. Like Cooley Bar I think has probably the best selection but like, I think it's all pretty frumpy. It's nothing that I would wear and be like, I look cute in this. It's stuff that feels like just not, not especially fashionable, a little like ill fitting. So you know, I, I have a lot of workout sun protective clothing and actually there's some good stuff on Amazon that's like not that expensive. But I, I don't, I personally don't think that the like quote unquote, regular clothes that are like UV protective that are sold by the likes of like Cooley Bar.

Elise Hu (17:00)

Yeah.

Dory Shafrir (17:00)

Are particularly attractive. So my suggestion is to just be covered up like that. That is better than nothing. And so, you know, wearing like a light colored long sleeve, loose fitting, long sleeve button down in like natural fibers and long pants, like in the summer, I almost never go outside in a short sleeve shirt. And if I do, I'm like slathering on the sunscreen. So, you know, I wish I had like a great suggestion and I would love to say like, oh, this is a hole in the market, but I feel like there's a, like there must be a reason why there isn't like cute UV clothing. It must be hard to make or something. I don't know. That's my theory.

Elise Hu (17:53)

While we. That it totally makes sense. Yeah, it totally makes sense. I mean it must be some sort of like special material, right? Like.

Dory Shafrir (17:59)

Yes.

Elise Hu (18:00)

The science behind that type of clothing makes clothing kind of difficult to.

Dory Shafrir (18:05)

Yeah.

Elise Hu (18:06)

To make cute. I don't know if, if, if you scientists out there, if you chemists out there know anything, material scientists, I guess know anything, please do call in.

Dory Shafrir (18:15)

I actually feel like there are better men's options than women's options. There's some stuff that I guess is fine, but there's. And also, you know, UV clothing is expensive.

Elise Hu (18:27)

Yeah.

Dory Shafrir (18:28)

So I don't know that I would be like buying. I don't have like a great option for specifically UV clothing. That is cute. Sorry.

Elise Hu (18:38)

Because you're function over form on this one, right?

Dory Shafrir (18:42)

Yes. So yeah, I just, you know, I just try to be covered up, but it's not necessarily in like UV specific clothes. Yeah. So. All right. Elise, do you want to read this text from a listener with some hair oil recommendations?

Elise Hu (19:03)

Yes. I just listened to the request for hair oil. I have similar hair to the listener but often blow dry it straight. This oil has been an absolute game changer. I used to do keratin and I really don't need to do it anymore with this oil. And it is the pura d' or 4 ounce organic Moroccan argan oil. USDA certified 100%. It's a product available on Amazon Pura d' or and that's d apostrophe or Moroccan Argan oil. And it's priced at 14.99 and the texture says still would probably need a curl cream or gel for shaping. But this has really helped my frizz. Okay, we do need to catalog all of these somewhere.

Dory Shafrir (19:53)

Yes.

Elise Hu (19:53)

We'll just put them on a shop my shelf, I think.

Dory Shafrir (19:56)

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Elise Hu (20:05)

Oh yes. Okay, we'll be right back.

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Elise Hu (21:58)

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Dory Shafrir (22:43)

I'm waiting for a hair oil to give us a discount code.

Elise Hu (22:48)

Yeah, I mean, we've basically spent like the last three or four weeks on this topic.

Dory Shafrir (22:53)

I know. Someone call us hair oil people. Where are you at?

Elise Hu (22:58)

Right.

Dory Shafrir (22:59)

But seriously, thank you. Geometry. And you can go check that out at Geometry House and use code forever15. Okay. The last thing I want to talk about is Wirecutter recently did a guide to their favorite things at Trader Joe's.

Elise Hu (23:16)

Yeah.

Dory Shafrir (23:17)

I am curious what your thoughts are on this guide. Do you agree with their assessments? Do you feel like they had some, like, things that they just totally missed? I'm very curious.

Elise Hu (23:31)

Yeah. I was really excited that there was a feature on this because I have wondered, like, are the things that I love at Trader Joe's the things that are, like, empirically the most popular products are empirically what everybody loves? Yes. And it seems like that's certainly true for the chicken tikka masala frozen meal. Yes. Really happy to see that. Very happy to see the gimbap, which everyone gives rave reviews, so I didn't think that was going to be in question. And the Trader Joe's Takis. I like Trader Joe's Takis better than the actual Takis, like the original Takis. So they are the dupes of the spicy chip, the Takis. But these are so at Trader Joe's they're called rolled corn tortilla chips, chili and lime flavored. But basically they're Takis. And I think they're so much better. So those I. Oh, and then unexpected cheddar. I never make a charcuterie board without.

Dory Shafrir (24:26)

Unexpected cheddar is so good.

Elise Hu (24:29)

And they did have that on there.

Dory Shafrir (24:31)

Yeah.

Elise Hu (24:32)

What about you? What did you like from the list and what do you feel like they missed? I'll talk about Mrs. In a bit.

Dory Shafrir (24:38)

Okay. So yes, the Korean pancakes.

Elise Hu (24:42)

Ah, yes. The sweet Botox.

Dory Shafrir (24:45)

Yes, yes. Those are also really good. And then. Oh, the. The Thai coconut pancakes are also quite good. And they. They like those. But yeah, they. They had a few things on their list of. On their list of, like, things that we didn't like that I was a little surprised by. And then other things that I agreed with, like they said that the. The hold the cone tips, which I was. Which I was so excited about. I also think they were kind of dry and I felt like the chocolate was stale. So those were also a miss for me. I think their dark chocolate almonds are really good. So I was surprised that they didn't like Those. I have made the scallion pancakes a lot and I have not found them to be greasy or gummy. So I'm curious how they made them.

Elise Hu (25:46)

Well, greasy. I mean, greasy. That depends on just how much oil you use. But they are exactly very gummy scallion pancakes. But I'm such a scallion pancake snob because my mother makes them by hand and has since I was born. You know, like, we have a. We have like a four generations of scallion pancake recipes that goes back. But their scallion pancakes can. Don't have to be greasy. Like, you don't have to make them.

Dory Shafrir (26:07)

Right.

Elise Hu (26:07)

Totally. They're just dough. So. Like.

Dory Shafrir (26:09)

Totally, totally, totally.

Elise Hu (26:12)

But yeah, the machine made ones are gonna be gummy. I mean, that. That just happens.

Dory Shafrir (26:15)

But I don't.

Elise Hu (26:16)

Perfectly passable as a snack.

Dory Shafrir (26:18)

Well, exactly. And I also don't think they are worse than like the vast majority of scallion pancakes you get from like American Chinese restaurants.

Elise Hu (26:27)

Oh, yeah. Possible. Yeah.

Dory Shafrir (26:29)

You know, probably, like, it's great that your mom makes amazing ones, but like, that's not accessible to the vast majority of people. So I feel like.

Elise Hu (26:36)

Right. Yeah.

Dory Shafrir (26:37)

I don't know. That felt to me like a little bit unfair.

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Dory Shafrir (26:42)

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Elise Hu (26:44)

There are good frozen ones. If you are in a place where you can get like we delivery. The we, you know, Asian food grocery delivery or like H Mart. There are some. There are some frozen ones. I'll have to take a picture of the ones that I think are pretty good, but I think they're gonna. First of all, that's inaccessible. Right. Like, usually I'd have to drive to 99 Ranch. Yes.

Dory Shafrir (27:07)

And then b.

Elise Hu (27:09)

Possibly more expensive. The thing that we like about the Trader Joe's scallion pancakes is that they're cheap.

Dory Shafrir (27:14)

Cheap, right. Totally.

Elise Hu (27:16)

But I. I totally get why I wouldn't make like a Best stuff at Trader Joe's list on wire cutter.

Dory Shafrir (27:22)

Yeah.

Elise Hu (27:22)

The thing that I thought that they missed was the. Was the ice cream. Like the mochi ice cream balls, because I think those are better than Asian food ones.

Dory Shafrir (27:32)

Oh, interesting.

Elise Hu (27:33)

Or Asian grocery store ones because I'll get them at like Mitsuha sometimes for double the price. And then I'll get them at Trader Joe's. And I. The Trader Joe's ones are so much better to me.

Dory Shafrir (27:44)

Oh, wow.

Elise Hu (27:44)

Like the mochi they get. Right. And then the other thing that they missed, I thought I only discovered because Washington posted a taste test of raspberry preserves after Meghan Markle's raspberry preserve brand came out as ever. So they did like kind of a raspberry jam off. And that's how I was introduced to the Trader Joe's raspberry preserves. And they're excellent. Or that jar is excellent. And I thought that was an oversight. That was my only real oversight that I thought that. And the mochi, because, you know, it's up to them. There's nothing that I, like, love there, so. Oh, one other thing. They have a dill flavored smoked salmon that is very good, but it's not around all the time.

Dory Shafrir (28:34)

Oh, okay.

Elise Hu (28:35)

And so maybe that's why I found there. Yeah.

Dory Shafrir (28:37)

They said they didn't do any seasonal stuff. They only did stuff that's available year round, always.

Elise Hu (28:42)

Okay, okay. Do you feel like there were any major misses or anything that they loved that you hate?

Dory Shafrir (28:48)

Well, I do think that their kung Pao chicken is pretty good. Like, agree. And then also their shiitake mushroom chicken is pretty good. So I felt like they didn't do any of, like, the bagged, like, you know, Asian, you know, frozen meals. Yeah, I was curious about that. I also think that their vanilla ice cream is.

Elise Hu (29:18)

Oh, I know you love their vanilla ice cream.

Dory Shafrir (29:20)

Yeah, I am like, a bit of a vanilla ice cream snob. And theirs is really good. Like, since I started eating it, I've gotten other vanilla ice creams, including, like, Van Leeuwen and like, you know, quote unquote fancier brands. And I think the Trader Joe's ice cream is really good. So I feel like, you know, I do feel like that was a miss.

Elise Hu (29:45)

A lot of their confections are really great, but I'm guessing, like, there's a certain balance, too, that you have to maintain when you're putting one of these together of like, savory to sweet and then frozen, totally dry goods to. So.

Dory Shafrir (29:57)

But the frozen stuff is available, like, everywhere. So I don't know. There's a lot of Trader Joe's products. I just didn't feel like this. Was this purported to be, you know, the definitive. It was like our favorite things from Trader Joe's, but I didn't feel like they cast an especially wide net. I guess that's what I'm saying.

Elise Hu (30:18)

So anyway, let us know what y' all thought. Yeah, yeah, let us know. Any, like, major hits and misses from that list. Folks, this is the wire cutter list.

Dory Shafrir (30:29)

It's headline our favorite things from Trader Joe's. All right, everyone, thanks so much for listening and we will talk to you soon.

Elise Hu (30:36)

Okay, talk to you next time.

Dory Shafrir (30:37)

Bye.

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