You Ask, We Answer: The One With The Callbacks

Summary

Forever35: “You Ask, We Answer: The One With The Callbacks” Hosts: Doree Shafrir & Elise Hu
Airdate: July 20, 2026

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Episode Overview

In this refreshingly candid and community-driven episode, Doree and Elise tackle a diverse mix of listener questions and comments, ranging from night creams and sunscreen recommendations to the emotional load of decluttering and thoughtful advice on breast reduction surgery. The conversation weaves through themes of self-care, seasonal routines, making adult friendships, labor issues in healthcare, and the eternal quest for less “food noise.” With their signature warmth and humor, the hosts offer both personal anecdotes and practical advice, amplified by heartfelt messages and tips from the Forever35 community.

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Key Discussion Points & Listener Questions

Check-Ins: Summer Mode, Routines, and Intentions

[01:13–12:15]

• Hosts reflect on their summers—family trips, attempts to relax, and the importance of mealtime togetherness.

• Elise shares a self-assessment exercise from Dan Pink’s newsletter: “Less of / More of” list-making ([05:41]):

  “It’s just that simple. But I really liked it… I’m doing all the things I want to do more of this summer—read novels, sunbathe by the pool.”

• Doree discusses her lack of a relaxing vacation and wanting to “get back into real life” post-travel.

• Both discuss intentions to be more mindful and intentional about family routines and cleaning/decluttering.

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Home Projects, Motivation Ruts & Closet Cleanouts

[08:06–12:15]

• Doree describes feeling “in a rut” and needing to overhaul her son Henry’s playroom for his next stage of life—with practical, budget-conscious tips for transition spaces.
• Elise points out that Doree’s recent motivation around house projects is noticeable:

  “You seemed really on top of that and excited about it.” – Elise ([11:55])

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Forever35 Community Updates

[12:16–13:40]

• Listener celebrates seeing NPR correspondents joining Forever35’s Patreon, commenting on the growth and power of the community:

  “It’s fun to see these powerhouse women… now being listed as podcast listeners.” ([12:16])

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Healthcare Labor Issues: Massachusetts Nurses Strike

[16:21–19:25]

• Listener in Massachusetts highlights the state’s largest-ever nurses’ strike, expressing frustration over the pay gap between hospital administration and front-line staff:

  “Does anyone… have any insight as to why this is—other than like the patriarchy and capitalism? I really just don’t get it and don’t get why our work isn’t valued.” ([16:39])

• Elise acknowledges the issue and calls for more community input:

  “There’s a huge gap between how CEOs are paid and how regular workers are paid in all American companies… would love to hear more about how all of this works.” ([18:26])

• Doree bluntly attributes the inequity to “capitalism.” ([19:25])

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Food Noise: Overeaters Anonymous & Community Approaches

[19:25–21:11]

• Listener shares a transformative experience with Overeaters Anonymous (OA) for reducing “food noise” and obsessive thoughts about eating:

  “OA truly gave me my life back… allows me freedom from food obsession and I can actually live my life and think about things other than food…” ([19:25])

• Hosts reiterate the impact and versatility of 12-step programs for many issues.

  “12-step programs generally… are so community-centered and self-organized, and it really works for millions of folks.” – Elise ([21:01])

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Breast Reduction Surgery: Realistic Advice & Recovery Tips

[21:11–23:35]

• Listener email delivers detailed, hard-won advice after her recent breast reduction (from I to DD cup), including:

  1. Use pictures as ideas, but no guarantees on size—surgeons have limits for safety.
  2. Breast reductions now include a lift.
  3. Post-op appearance can be shocking, but shape/size will settle over weeks/months.
  4. Recliners or wedge pillows/pregnancy pillows are crucial for sleeping.
  5. Medical-grade silicone or Palmer's oil for scarring; mastectomy pillow for pet owners.
  6. “Joo powder” (expensive, but possibly effective for healing).
  7. Place frequently used items on counters post-surgery to avoid reaching.

  “I absolutely love [the results] and it’s such a huge difference.” ([21:17])

• Doree and Elise thank the listener, noting the value of specific, non-glamorous recovery tips.

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Sunscreen & Summer Skincare Q&A

[23:46–33:57]

Sunscreen Application at the Beach

[26:38–27:23]

• Listener recommends cornstarch for removing sand before reapplying sunscreen:

  “Sprinkle some cornstarch on damp skin, it dries out the skin enough so you can brush off the sand and actually reapply the sunscreen.” ([26:38])

Wet Clothing & Staying Cool

[27:27–28:38]

• Listener clarifies their practice of wetting UPF clothing for hikes/outdoor play instead of before car rides.

Sunscreen Recommendations for Sensitive or Minimalist Routines

[28:44–32:29]

• Listener requests a “just sunscreen, nothing else” facial sunscreen, non-pilling, without added skincare ingredients:

Doree recommends:

• Hero Cosmetics Force Shield Super Light Sunscreen SPF 30

  “It’s mineral, good for sensitive skin… my ride or die. I don’t see it mentioned that much. Why are people sleeping on this sunscreen? It’s like my favorite.” ([30:00])

Elise recommends:

• Innisfree Daily UV Defense Sunscreen Lotion SPF 50 (Korean brand, at Sephora):

  “It does not sting… It comes in a 100 ml tube for $32.” ([31:04])

• Optionally, Dalba sunscreen (Korean, but may include color-correction).

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Setting Powders to Reduce Dewy Finish

[32:29–33:57]

• Listener and texter recommend:
  • ILIA “Fade Into You” Soft Focus Finishing Powder
  • Saie translucent powder
• Elise and Doree discuss dealing with overly dewy skin tints; Doree notes her dry skin absorbs excess moisture.

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The “Intention Zone” — Decluttering & Summer Goals

[34:13–35:40]

• Elise describes ongoing summer decluttering (clothes, sports equipment) and the value of incremental progress:

  “Since this is my summer of ease… I'd rather book large chunks of time for laying around by the pool and reading.” ([34:13])

• Doree recommits to finally starting the playroom clean-out:

  “I’m putting it out there so I actually do it. You heard it here first.” ([35:34])

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Notable Quotes

• “Recognizing it is a good first step. And now I’m going to try to figure out what to do about it.” – Doree ([08:39])
• “OA truly gave me my life back… it allows me freedom from food obsession and I can actually live my life.” – Listener ([19:25])
• “For those who do 12-step programs, the fact that they’re so community-centered… it really works for millions of folks.” – Elise ([21:01])
• “Sprinkle some cornstarch on damp skin, it dries out the skin enough so you can brush off the sand and actually reapply the sunscreen.” – Listener ([26:38])
• “Why are people sleeping on this [Hero Cosmetics Force Shield] sunscreen? It’s like my favorite.” – Doree ([30:00])
• “Since this is my summer of ease…I haven’t done like a big long clean-out…but I’m progressively working on it.” – Elise ([34:13])
• “Dory was curious for sure. Okay. And then we got a question about sunscreen.” – Elise, exemplifying the show’s playful, conversational tone ([28:44])

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Timestamps: Important Segments

• 01:13 – Hosts check in, summer updates, and routines
• 05:41 – “Less of / More of” self-assessment exercise
• 08:06 – Home projects, playroom transitions
• 12:16 – Community update: NPR correspondents join Patreon
• 16:21 – Massachusetts nurses’ strike & pay inequities
• 19:25 – Food noise & Overeaters Anonymous advice
• 21:11 – Breast reduction tips & honest post-op expectations
• 26:38 – Sunscreen tips for sandy environments
• 28:51 – Listener query: minimalist face sunscreen recs
• 30:00 – Doree & Elise’s sunscreen recommendations
• 32:29 – Setting powder suggestions for dewy tints
• 34:13 – The Intention Zone: decluttering, summer progress

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Tone

Warm, honest, gently humorous, and practical—with plenty of relatable life details and no shying away from harder realities or listener vulnerability. Elise and Doree cultivate an encouraging, thoughtful, and nonjudgmental atmosphere; the “intention zone” wraps up the episode on a proactive, caring note.

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For More and to Join the Conversation

• Call or text: 781-591-0390
• Email: [e-mail]
• Patreon: patreon.com/forever35
• Instagram: @forever35podcast

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This episode is ideal for anyone seeking real-life advice on self-care, community support, product recs, and simply making it through the summer in one piece—with a big (and growing!) sisterhood by your side.

Transcript

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[Dori Shafrir]

Hello and welcome to Forever 35, a podcast about the things we do to take care of ourselves. I'm Dory Shafrir.

[Elise Hu]

And I'm Elise Hu. And we're just two friends who like to talk a lot about serums.

[Dori Shafrir]

And this is a you ask we answer episode where we respond to your questions, comments, feedback, concerns, insights, observations.

[Elise Hu]

But we should remind folks that we are not medical doctors.

[Dori Shafrir]

We are not. We're not. We're. We're not experts. I mean, we're experts in some things, but definitely not like mental health or physical health experts. So we do encourage you to seek support from someone with actual expertise.

[Elise Hu]

Yeah.

[Dori Shafrir]

In those areas. And not, you know, we're not, we're not like a do your own research kind of vibe.

[Listener/Caller]

Right.

[Elise Hu]

There's so many caveats. Right. Because there's so many ways that things are going in the larger.

[Dori Shafrir]

Exactly.

[Elise Hu]

Course, if you will.

[Dori Shafrir]

Yes, yes.

[Elise Hu]

Hope everybody's having a good summer. We are now in like fully in summer.

[Dori Shafrir]

We are.

[Elise Hu]

All the folks still in school have finished and all of the folks who are returning to school in early August have not quite returned just yet.

[Dori Shafrir]

Yeah, I was going to say, I realize, like our kids go back in less than a month, which is wild. Which is wild.

[Elise Hu]

But my summer has felt long already.

[Dori Shafrir]

Fair. That is fair.

[Elise Hu]

This is a time for just leisure and catching up though, for me this mid July season. So I'm really glad. And you just got back from Vacay highlights, low lights. What do you want to share?

[Dori Shafrir]

Well, as we discussed on the casual chat, I wouldn't totally refer to it as vacay. Like, it was vacay in the sense that, like, you and I weren't recording. So it was like a work vacay. Although I did write my Slate column. But it wasn't like a relaxing, like, sit on the beach and have a pina colada kind of trip. It was more of a trip.

[Elise Hu]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Dori Shafrir]

Which is not to say it wasn't, like, fun and great, but I was, like, ready to sort of, like, get back to my real life by the end, you know, we went to Boston. Well, first we went to Connecticut to see my brother, which was great. Great to see him. Then we took the train to Boston, and Henry had never ridden Amtrak before.

[Elise Hu]

Oh, fun.

[Dori Shafrir]

So that was fun. And, you know, I much prefer taking a train to sitting in traffic. So that was. That was nice. And then we were in Boston for a little over a week. And that was great. It was. It was just like a nice trip. We got to spend a lot of good time with my parents. Yeah, we saw some friends. We saw the tall ships. And yeah, it was. It was a good. It was a good trip.

[Elise Hu]

Tell me what you did for food, because, a, I'm very food motivated, like my dog. But two, when we're all here as a family together, you know, my mom really loves cooking for everybody. So did one of. Did one of your parents, like, prepare meals? Did you guys eat out a lot?

[Dori Shafrir]

Yeah, my mom cooked for us, like, almost every night. It was very thoughtful and, like, she had clearly put a lot of thought into, like, planning menus and, oh, you know, thinking about what we would like. And that was really, really sweet and, like, nice to sit down to a dinner, you know, Like, I try to cook, but, like, a lot of times I'm just tired and don't feel like making a whole dinner. You know what I mean? Like, I'll be like, I'm gonna heat up some chicken nuggets for Henry. Like, that's kind of the extent. So that was nice to just like, sit down, like, as a family and have.

[Elise Hu]

Yeah.

[Dori Shafrir]

Meals.

[Elise Hu]

I was saying something similar because, but for my parents being here, I don't feel like we have a good routine of all sitting down together as a family, because especially during the school year, everybody's going in a million different places. And right during mealtime, you know, volleyball Practice is between 6 and 8 and dances between 4 to 7. And so it's really hard for all of us to get together. And that's been something I'm very grateful for during the summer and also something I want to be a little bit more intentional about.

[Listener/Caller]

Mm.

[Elise Hu]

Something that Sammy and I talked about during our casual chat while you were away was that there's this worksheet that Dan Pink. Daniel Pink, who is the author of that book on motivation, which is called Drive, put out on his. In his newsletter. And it's basically just a sheet that's divided in half. And it's on the left side. It's stuff I want to do less of. And on the right side is stuff I want to do more of. And just do that. Yeah. Just an exercise of, like, less of, more of. And see how we can measure ourselves in the direction of more of and less of. It's just that simple. But I really liked it, and I was like, so I'm doing all the things I want to do more of this summer, you know, like, read novels. So I'm reading a ton of novels, and I'm, like, at a pretty fast clip because I'm just inhaling them. I love them, and I'm really getting into the worlds. And then I want to spend more time, like, sunbathing by the pool. So I've just aggressively been doing that. All my freckles are out. They're like, who's.

[Dori Shafrir]

Whose pool is this?

[Elise Hu]

A lot of my friends actually are homeowners. As part of this thing called the Runway, which is a very ersatz development near me. There's a. There's a hater on TikTok and Instagram who calls himself a professional hater. And he goes around Los Angeles and hates on the neighborhoods. What? And so, yes, he's like, I'm a professional hater. Today I'm hating on Calabasas. And he, like, makes one of Calabasas.

[Listener/Caller]

And then.

[Elise Hu]

Or he'll do, like, I'm a professional hater. And in Burbank, in Silver Lake, in wherever else.

[Dori Shafrir]

And so when he.

[Elise Hu]

When he goes to. Oh, it's hilarious. It's awesome. So the one in. When he goes to this. This neighborhood, he's like. And they have a development, uh, with. With streets, like, and that's kind of where it is. And it's so nice. And it's called the Resort because it's designed, like, a resort situation. It has, like, this open air. Oh, wow. Gym upstairs, too. We'll just go and hang out there because it's really nice.

[Dori Shafrir]

And that's awesome.

[Elise Hu]

You don't have to be at a hotel or something or get resort pass or.

[Dori Shafrir]

Totally.

[Elise Hu]

Yeah. So that's been. Happen, happening. So now that you're back, what do you want the rest of your summer to be about?

[Dori Shafrir]

The rest of my summer? Well, I'm, you know, I didn't get to play tennis while I was away, so obviously. Tennis.

[Elise Hu]

Getting back on that horse.

[Dori Shafrir]

Getting back on the tennis horse, but also working on my book. Also trying to get a little bit out of the rut that I feel like I've been in for a year.

[Elise Hu]

Oh, the last.

[Dori Shafrir]

I don't know, like Millennium.

[Elise Hu]

Yeah, 65 days or so.

[Dori Shafrir]

So, you know, I think recognizing it is a good first step. And now I'm going to try to figure out what to do about it.

[Elise Hu]

Well, there's always that worksheet. Do less of, more of totally. But that sounds, that sounds kind of trite. I. I would say, like, as an outside observer, as your friend, I thought that you had a real, like, sense of motivation around your closet or get the front of the house clean up time period.

[Dori Shafrir]

I did. That's true. And now one thing that I do really need to work on is Henry's playroom, which needs to sort of transition into like a room for a school age child.

[Elise Hu]

Oh, yeah. Where he's gonna do his homework.

[Dori Shafrir]

Where he's gonna do his homework, has like, there's like a table that he sits at to do some of the stuff for like the math class that he does on weekends. But he's like, he's definitely like way too big for it. And at his new school, like, he hasn't had homework for the past two years at his old school because they had a no homework policy. But at this new school, he's gonna have homework, so we have to get him a desk. We have to clear out. I mean, I opened the closet in that room recently and I was like, oh, this is full of toys that he hasn't played with in like four years. You know what I mean? There's still a play kitchen in there. Like, he doesn't play with a play kitchen. It's just like storage. So that room needs like a total re. Overhaul. Yeah, rehaul overhaul. And like, frankly, his bedroom kind of does too. But I don't. That's like a project that I don't

[Elise Hu]

want to take on yet.

[Dori Shafrir]

I don't want to take on right now. And that will require like, purchasing new furniture that I can't afford right now. So. Whereas I think the playroom, I really just need a desk and I Found one at IKEA that I think will be fine. And it's like. It's like less than $100, I think so. And he just needs a chair. So, like, that. The new purchases for the playroom are not as extensive as I think, what will. What he will need in the bedroom. But that does need to sort of, like, start happening. So, yes, that would kind of get me, I think, a little bit more motiv. But, yeah, I'm seeing my. My. I love my primary care physician. She's amazing, but her front office is, like, not the best. You know how, like, most of your doctors and, like, your dentist, when you leave your appointment, they're like, okay, let's book you for, like, next year.

[Elise Hu]

Yes. Just did that yesterday with my dentist.

[Dori Shafrir]

Right. And you're like, great. Set it and forget it. Her office doesn't do that. They're like, call us in six months. Okay, well, I don't remember to call in six months. So by the time I remember to call, they're like, her next opening is, like, three months from now. You know what I mean? It's so annoying.

[Elise Hu]

Yeah.

[Dori Shafrir]

I'm like, can't you just. Whatever. I don't even want to, like, ask why you can't do this, but anyway, I made an appointment with her two months ago, and it's in August, which is now, like, kind of soon, so gonna go see her, see what she says, hopefully, you know, figure some shit out, and I'll report back.

[Elise Hu]

Okay, fantastic.

[Dori Shafrir]

In the meantime, I'll start cleaning out Henry's playroom.

[Elise Hu]

Yeah, I don't know. I felt like, just observationally, you seemed, like, really on top of that and excited about it, so.

[Dori Shafrir]

Yeah, I love. I love those. I love those, you know, outside perspectives, you know? Very helpful, Elise. We did get a couple of messages that I want to play slash read before we take a break.

[Elise Hu]

Yay. Okay, great.

[Listener/Caller]

Hey, guys. I'm just calling to say I love that on. I noticed that on the episodes where you read out all of the, like, deluxe members of Forever 35 Patreon, that now there's, like, a ton of NPR, like, lead correspondence being listed there. How fun is that? So I think it's a product of our new host. So it's just a fun little indicator that the Forever 35 circle is growing. And it's fun to see these, like, powerhouse women that I'm used to hearing their names on my NPR daily broadcast now being listed as podcast listeners for Forever 35. So let the family continue to grow. Thanks for everything you do. Bye.

[Dori Shafrir]

Love that. Love that for us.

[Elise Hu]

And welcome in to all the new Patreon subscribers. Yes, the water is warm. We have so much bonus content on the Patreon.

[Listener/Caller]

Indeed.

[Dori Shafrir]

Thank you listener. And then we got a text that said OMG Elise. I also have the croc chunky sandals and love them. I also am not a croc person and heard about them from my sister who sang their praises.

[Elise Hu]

They're awesome. Yeah, they're awesome. I told you. I've, they've taken me and carried me through entire like day long or weekend long festivals.

[Dori Shafrir]

Love that.

[Elise Hu]

No problem. Yep.

[Dori Shafrir]

That's amazing. Um, all right, we are going to take a short break but before we do that, just a reminder, if you want to reach us, you can call or text us at 781-591-0390. Email us at forever35podcastmail.com Our website is forever35podcast.com we have links there to everything we mention on the show. You can also shop our favorite links at shopmy us/forever35. That's our shop my shelf. And you can follow us on Instagram @Fevover35 podcast. And our Patreon that we just mentioned is patreon.comforever35. We have a lot of fun bonus content on there including our casual chats which are now on video that we do weekly and then we also do live casual chats about once a quarter where we take your questions like as we're recording and those are just super fun and intimate and great. Some of my favorite episodes actually. We also have a community chat going on there and at $10 a month you get ad free episodes and the aforementioned shout out on the podcast once a month. So with that said, we are going to take a short break and when we come back we have some responses to the listener who was asking for advice about food noise. Yeah, and then also some advice about breast reduction surgery, which was another question that someone had for the group written called or written in about, I don't remember which. So yeah, we'll be right back. Stay with us.

[Elise Hu]

Okay. We'll be right back.

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[Dori Shafrir]

All right, we are back. Before we get to the food noise, we do have another voicemail that I wanted to share that was interesting to me because I just came from Boston and this person is talking about something that is happening in Boston. So, okay, here we go.

[Listener/Caller]

Hey guys. I am in Massachusetts presently and a healthcare worker and in the helping profession. And I have been following the Brigham and Women's Nurses strike in Massachusetts, which is the largest nurses strike in our history in Massachusetts. And it's definitely speaking to a greater issue in healthcare in the sense that the administration is getting paid a lot of money and the people doing actual patient care are not getting kind of the same benefits like wages that are commensurate with the increased cost of living and just safe staffing ratios and all that good stuff. Anyways, my question that I thought maybe we would explore or might not be appropriate for the POD is I really just don't understand why administration gets these giant salaries and the people who are on the ground doing the work, like the nurses and the therapists and the lnas and everyone else gets paid peanuts. We do a lot of really hard work. We have a lot of really hard conversations and support families and it's an insane job to have. So, like, does anyone in the community or do you guys have any insight as to why this is other than like the patriarchy and capitalism? I would really love for someone to explain it to me like I'm five, because I really just don't get it and don't get why our work isn't valued. And it's very frustrating to me. I love you guys. I love the POD and love that you have a very diverse area of topics that you discuss. But yeah, I was just curious. All right, thanks. Bye.

[Elise Hu]

I don't know enough about this. I feel like there's a huge gap between how CEOs are paid and how regular workers are paid in all American companies or companies that are headquartered in America in a way that's vastly different than other, you Know, than European countries even, you know, and so if you all out there can kind of explain the gap between hospital administration and hospital, the. The frontline staff, then yes, I'd love to hear more about it. I know that Dr. Jen, who's a good friend of mine and was a Kaiser doctor. Kaiser doctors get paid a little bit better. Kaiser doctors and nurses get paid a little bit better because of the way that Kaiser shares ownership. Those are partnerships. So it's a little bit more collective, from what I understand. But would love to hear more about how all of this works. My father, longtime hospital pharmacist, so. And you know, pharmacists are paid pretty well, I guess, but not like administrators.

[Dori Shafrir]

Yeah, I mean, I was just gonna say like capitalism. I mean, isn't this the case in, like every industry? Pretty much. Unfortunately, the price for labor. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But thank you for this. And yeah, my parents live like, pretty close to the hospital, so we saw the nurses on strike and yeah, it was a. It was a. It's a big deal. Okay, moving on to food noise. We got this text that said, hi, Dori and Elise, in response to the listener who's struggling with food noise. I struggled this for so long until I found what worked for me. For me, the solution was joining Overeaters Anonymous. OA truly gave me my life back. And it's an extremely welcoming environment and allows members to find their own plan of eating. For me, that looks like three meals a day with no snacks in between and no second helpings. If I had tried this just as a diet, it wouldn't have worked. But after joining oa, this way of eating allows me freedom from food obsession and I can actually live my life and think about things other than food for four to five hours between meals. It hasn't been easy, but it has been totally worth it. And I hope this listener can find the same piece.

[Elise Hu]

Okay, good suggestion.

[Dori Shafrir]

Thank you for your text about this. I feel like we people forget about Overeaters Anonymous, but it has been super helpful for so many people. So thank you.

[Elise Hu]

Just the 12 step programs generally.

[Dori Shafrir]

Oh, totally.

[Elise Hu]

A.A. na Alanon.

[Dori Shafrir]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Elise Hu]

The fact that they're so community centered and self organized and, and it really works for a lot of folks, millions of folks. So thanks for the suggestion.

[Dori Shafrir]

Okay. And now we have an email about breast reduction surgery. Elise, do you want to take this one?

[Elise Hu]

Hey, y'. All. I'm a little late listening to this episode, but had to pause the pod to respond to the listener inquiring about breast reduction recovery and Maybe it will be helpful for others too. I had a breast reduction six months ago. I'd also been wanting one for years and went from an I to a dd. Here are the things that really helped in some responses to comments made during the show. 1. Yes, definitely look at pictures for ideas, but know that your doctor cannot guarantee a size and shouldn't many things affect the size they can achieve. The technique used the density of your breasts. If you care about losing feeling in your nipples or even if you care about keeping your nipples. I had hoped to go down to a crd, but my surgeon could not safely do that without a strong possibility of losing my nipples. 2. Breast reduction surgery includes a lift. This might not have been the case in the past, but it is now. 3. When you are first out of surgery, you are either going to panic because they look too small or big. Nearly everyone I've talked to has had this reaction. I was so upset initially, but they will change so much over weeks and months. While I still wish mine were a little smaller, I absolutely love them and it's such a huge difference.

[Dori Shafrir]

4.

[Elise Hu]

A recliner is super helpful, but if that's not possible, get a good wedge pillow and a pregnancy U shaped pillow. And while not necessary, a mastectomy pillow is nice to have to protect you from pets jumping on you. 5. Medical grade silicone for scar treatment is the best. You don't need anything crazy expensive. Palmer's oil is nice too, especially if your surgeon recommends scar massage. 6. It's expensive but I truly believe Joo powder helped my healing. My doctor's office had coupons for it. 7. One piece of advice I received received that I never would have thought of was to put items that you frequently use on the counter so you have easy access as you will not be able to reach up to get things out of cabinets. Here are links to some of my favorite recovery items and those links we will put in our show notes for listeners. And the last message is just that sorry that was long and love y' all in the pod. This is awesome.

[Dori Shafrir]

This is so helpful. Thank you so much.

[Elise Hu]

You know I have to get breast surgery sometime once I do decide to do it. So a lot of these like recovery tips are probably work for me too.

[Dori Shafrir]

You gotta bookmark these.

[Elise Hu]

Yeah.

[Dori Shafrir]

Okay. We are gonna take another short break and when we come back we have some sunscreen recommendations and tips and tricks.

[Elise Hu]

Okay.

[Dori Shafrir]

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[Dori Shafrir]

Okay, we are back. So I feel like we've gotten similar tips like this before. But someone said responding to sunscreen application comments at the beach, we bring along a small jar of Cornstarch. If you sprinkle some cornstarch on damp skin, it dries out the skin enough so that you can brush off the sand and actually reapply the sunscreen. We also try to do rash guards and cover up.

[Elise Hu]

Yes. So this is sort of like I. It must work in the same way that baby powder works.

[Dori Shafrir]

Yeah, baby powder does.

[Elise Hu]

Yeah. Okay. I haven't done. I haven't thought to even do this, so I will. I just sort of let my kids be sandy, but then the sand gets all over my car and then subsequently my house.

[Listener/Caller]

Yeah.

[Elise Hu]

So I need to pre plan a little better.

[Dori Shafrir]

Okay. So do you remember we got a. We got an email from a listener who said that they wet their UPF layers before they put them on?

[Elise Hu]

Yeah. Yeah. And you were like, why would I sit in wet clothes? Yes.

[Dori Shafrir]

I was so confused. And that listener actually followed up.

[Elise Hu]

Oh, okay, great.

[Dori Shafrir]

And said you wondered about whether we wet our shirts before getting in the car and driving to the beach. We don't do that because we live in Colorado and are so landlocked.

[Listener/Caller]

Oh.

[Dori Shafrir]

We are typically getting our shirts wet with a hose or a dunk in a bucket, then playing outside in our yard or a local splash pad or going on a hike. Either way, we definitely would not get in the car with our wet shirts on.

[Elise Hu]

Okay.

[Listener/Caller]

Okay.

[Dori Shafrir]

I imagine if we were to find ourselves at a beach, we'd either wet our shirts at one of the rinse stations or just dunk our shirts in the surf.

[Elise Hu]

Yes.

[Dori Shafrir]

Before putting them on. Our neighbor's AC went out this week, so my husband told her family to wear wet long sleeve shirts while they wait for their AC to be repaired, slash replaced. Her response later in the day was the wet shirt saves the day.

[Elise Hu]

Yeah. Because it keeps you freezing cold. Yeah, it's great.

[Dori Shafrir]

Totally, totally.

[Elise Hu]

Okay, good.

[Dori Shafrir]

Thank you for clarifying, Julia. I was like, how does this work?

[Elise Hu]

Yes.

[Listener/Caller]

Yes.

[Dori Shafrir]

Dory was curious for sure. Okay. And then we got a question about sunscreen.

[Listener/Caller]

Hi, Dori and Elise. I have a question about sunscreen, which seems crazy because I'm sure you've covered something in a million different ways, but I'm looking for. I really. I recently really tear back my skin care. I'm just using because a lot of stuff is irritating me. And so I'm. First of all, I'm obsessed with the Euthirin skin balance line. Their day cream and night cream, both excellent. But I'd like a sunscreen that is just a sunscreen. I don't want it to have anything else in It. I don't want it to have any skincare. I just want it to be a face sunscreen. And I am having a hard time finding that. I just got the La Roche Posay and Celios Life fluid sunscreen, which I've used before, and I really liked it. And now it's just pilling on my skin and there's just all these white flakes. Horrible. Yeah. Just curious if you have any recs for it doesn't need to be like, formulated for sensitive skin, but something that is just a sunscreen that will sit on my kind of thick skin care routine and won't pill. All right, love the pod. Bye.

[Dori Shafrir]

I mean, I'm gonna just recommend my favorite that I recommend all the time, which is the Hero Cosmetics Force Shield super light sunscreen. It's mineral, so it is. It is good for sensitive skin. It's SPF 30, which I think some people feel like it's not high enough, but I feel like is fine. And you're supposed to be reapplying your sunscreen anyway. So I think SPF 30 is most likely more than fine for your purposes. I have not found it to pill. It's not like super cheap. It's $20 for a 50 milliliter bottle. And I go through those, like, go through them pretty quickly. So it's not like, you know, a bargain. But I really like the sunscreen. I will like, this is my ride or die. I don't see it mentioned that much. And I. I'm like, why are people sleeping on this sunscreen? It's like my favorite.

[Elise Hu]

I'm gonna recommend two Korean sunscreens. One that I carry in my purse, and it is just sunscreen. And you can get it at Sephora. It's from Innisfree, which is one of the like, OG Korean brands. And it's just called Innisfree Daily UV Defense Sunscreen Lotion, Broad Spectrum SPF 50. It does not sting. My problem with the La Roche Posay is that it stings like when it comes off my face in the shower.

[Dori Shafrir]

This is great.

[Elise Hu]

It comes in a 100 milliliter tube for $32. It'll last a while. But the top selling sunscreen in Korea right now, and it's available available at Olive Young, which is, you know, the big drugstore slash Sephora combo brand that opened a US location in California recently is this brand called Dalba. It's like D apostrophe Alba. And they sell one of the Dalba brands or one of the sunscreens at Ulta, I think, but that might have a little bit of pink correcting in it or it has yellow correcting. It has different other skin care, like skin care ingredients in it. So if you just want sunscreen lotion, that's just sunscreen. I really like the Innisfree daily UV and Dory really loves the hero cosmetics one her ride or die. Hopefully those help.

[Dori Shafrir]

Okay, we have another voicemail.

[Listener/Caller]

Hi Dori and Elise. For the caller who uses the Ilia super serum skin tint, Ilia makes a like setting powder. It's called fade into you soft focus finishing powder. So that will take that slight dewiness away and it kind of sets the makeup. I totally. I hear what that caller was saying and I feel the same thing. So I usually use that setting powder with it. So yeah, Ilia's got you covered. Bye.

[Elise Hu]

We have a text in response to that also that says I really liked the Saie powder. I think it comes in specific colors, but I've just used the translucent one and find it takes the shine off quite well. I am in the market for a new translucent powder just because I don't use powder very often. Yeah, I haven't gotten one in years and But I do have that problem sometimes. Like when I put on a, like a tinted moisturizer or a BB cushion or a CC cushion. Like it is a little too dewy, like too moist looking. Sorry, I know some people don't like that word.

[Dori Shafrir]

I the, the Ilia skin Sun Serum 1, it, it looks a little too dewy when it goes on, but I feel like my skin has been so dry lately that it just sort of like absorbs it pretty quickly and I don't think it looks greasy afterwards. But your mileage may vary obviously.

[Elise Hu]

Okay.

[Dori Shafrir]

All right, well, thank you everyone so much for all of your calls and texts etc. We are going to go into the intention zone. Elise, have you started your summer cleaning?

[Elise Hu]

I took four big bags. They were really more like shopping bags, you know, like grocery bags, paper bags of clothing to Goodwill. So. And then I am now doing a bunch of sports equipment, kid tennis rackets and basketballs and things like that that we don't really need. So I am doing it. I would like to be doing it all in one day or something. But since this is my summer of ease and I'd rather book large chunks of time for laying around by the pool and reading. I haven't done like a big long clean out, clean out, but I've been progressively working on it and then this week going on vacay Kind of like take a real adult vacation that we can call vacation instead of a trip. Because the girls are going to be at sleepaway camp. So Rob and I are just going to do a trip by ourselves, which we're really excited about and I can. We'll update on when we get back.

[Dori Shafrir]

Amazing. Well, last week I was getting a haircut.

[Elise Hu]

Yes. For your.

[Dori Shafrir]

For my. For my summer. Yeah. For to get out of the blahs. You know, haircut helps. Not gonna lie. So, yeah, love that. And this week, I'm gonna start the playroom clean out. I'm putting it out there so that I. I actually do it.

[Elise Hu]

Okay.

[Dori Shafrir]

You heard it here first.

[Elise Hu]

You. Yes, it is. It has been intended.

[Dori Shafrir]

It has been intended. All right. Thanks everybody. Forever 35 is hosted and produced by me, Dori Shafrier and Elise Hu and edited by Sam Hunio. Sammy Reed is our project manager and our network partner is Acast. Thanks, everybody.

[Elise Hu]

Talk to you next time.

[Dori Shafrir]

Bye.

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[Dori Shafrir]

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