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Annie Jones
Welcome to from the Front Porch, a conversational podcast about books, small business, and.
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Ashley Jones
Life in the South. What's the point of being able to sing like you can if no one hears you? What's the point of a gift if you don't share it? Jennifer Weiner the Griffin Sisters Greatest Hits I'm Annie Jones, owner of the Bookshelf, an independent bookstore in beautiful downtown Thomasville, Georgia, and this week I'm chatting about off the Shelf topics with my cousin Ashley. Sherlock Summer's finally here. If you are a new or newish listener, you might not realize that from the Front Porch is a production of the Bookshelf, a small, independently owned bookstore in rural South Georgia. By listening to our show and recommending it to your friends, you are helping keep our indie bookstore in business. And if you like what you hear, one way you can financially support us is through Patreon. Last year, as you probably know by now, we read the classic American novel Lonesome dove with over 1000 Patreon supporters. And back in January, we kicked off our decidedly more challenging 2025 reading of Don Quixote. For $5 a month, you can access those monthly Conquer A Classic recaps as well as our porch visits, which are live Q and A's, where we talk about everything from pop culture to nail polish to what books you should take on your next vacation. To learn more about Patreon tiers and benefits, visit patreon.com from the front Porch. Now back to the show. Hi, Ashley.
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Jordan Jones
Hello. Hello. Happy summer.
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Ashley Jones
Welcome. Happy summer. It's hot. It's humid. It's here. If you are a new listener, we do these episodes, although I realized we didn't do one for spring. Did you know that?
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Jordan Jones
I thought this was the spring, to be honest with you.
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Ashley Jones
Well, that's because we are on the cusp. Technically, as of this recording, we are technically on the cusp, but this is our summer drop. But we try to do these seasonally, where we go off the shelf to talk about books, but also about articles, TV shows, pop culture, how we're handling life in this given season. Ashley is a former Bookshelf staffer, my literal family member and friend. And before we, like, dive in to our summer things that we're reading, watching, listening, buying, let's talk about book tour.
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Jordan Jones
Let's do Please. I feel like it was so glam for me, and the face you're giving me right now is like, oh, I'm so happy that's true for you.
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Ashley Jones
I am so happy it's true for you.
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Jordan Jones
I feel the same way. I had a fantastic time. But how are you feeling?
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Ashley Jones
I think by that last stop, if it weren't for the cold. If it weren't for the cold, I think I would have been fine. So Ashley went with me on my Ordinary Time book tour. If you are a Patreon supporter, there is a bonus episode all about the book tour, so you can listen to the details there. But basically, things kicked off in Thomasville, then we went to Tallahassee, but then Birmingham, New Orleans and Greenville. And so Ashley became my designated driver because I would blame my parents, but I think I'm also going to blame Jordan Jones. No one wanted me to drive myself anywhere, which is fair.
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Jordan Jones
Well, it was how long, how many hours I spent driving in a minute?
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Ashley Jones
It is fair. It is fair because by the time I left for Birmingham, I was like 34, 35 weeks pregnant. And, you know, that's kind of far along. I wasn't worried. The doctor had given it the all the go ahead. I would never have done anything that was risky or. Or even remotely dangerous. I do think at some point my mother became very concerned. And I know this because of the number of people who messaged me that my mother had told them how nervous she was about me giving birth in the back roads of Mississippi. Like, Patreon supporters were like, oh, my gosh, your mom was so worried for you. And I was like, wow, mom must have been real, real worried. She was confiding in everyone. It was like her small talk topic of choice. Um, I did not give birth on the back roads of Mississippi. Something about that stretch between Birmingham and New Orleans made my mom nervous. But actually one of the prettiest drives we saw, in my opinion.
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Jordan Jones
It's so beautiful. And I was questioning that nervousness just a little bit because it was interstate the whole way. And then we, you know, got on the interstate and there was literally nothing. There was a Love's gas station.
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Ashley Jones
Yeah, truly, I think this is correct. Between New Orleans and Birmingham. Like, the only place to stop really is Laurel, Mississippi. I mean, there might be places you could drive off and I guess stop in, but like, right off the interstate, the only place was Laurel. So we did do lunch in Laurel, which feels like a dream, but we did do that.
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Jordan Jones
It does feel like a dream. I mean, you could have given birth there and I'm sure people probably would have helped you in the street because that small town vibe, you know.
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Ashley Jones
Yeah, I would have been fine. I'm glad I didn't. I'm glad you didn't have to help me give birth. Although I think we could have done it.
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Jordan Jones
Listen, we might have lost my lunch during it, but I would have stepped up to the challenge.
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Ashley Jones
You would be like Joey and Friends. You would. You would want to be the one to pee on me, but you might not be able to.
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Jordan Jones
Oh, that's so true.
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Ashley Jones
Okay, so we went to Little Professor, a bookstore in Birmingham. We went to Garden District Bookshop in New Orleans, and we went to M. Judson in Greenville. Had you, prior to this trip, been to any of those stores?
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Jordan Jones
I think I've only been to M. Judson.
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Ashley Jones
Okay. Did you come with me? Were you on that SEBA trip where we did, Garden District or no?
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Jordan Jones
Oh, yeah. I've been to Garden District, too.
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Ashley Jones
Okay. Because that was the one. I had been to Garden District and I had been to Little Professor. I'd even been to their Pepper Place location. I had not been to their new Homewood location, but M. Judson was really the only store that felt new to me. Like, I had never been there. And it was super cool. It was located. Jordan got to join for that trip. It's in an old courthouse, so Jordan Jones was like. It was like the perfect combination of my interests and Jordan's interests in one in one bookstore. Did you have. I don't want to put you on the spot, but did you have any, like, favorite moments, favorite stores, favorite purchases, favorite memories, anything that's going to stick out to you years from now?
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Jordan Jones
Good question. Is it bad for me to say this? No. Stop. Is ever going to top your release day event in Thomasville. That was very special.
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Ashley Jones
It was very special.
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Jordan Jones
Semi hometown.
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Ashley Jones
Yeah.
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Jordan Jones
And it was just the sweetest, most fun thing. And Jamie golden was so much fun. And that's. That's the event. I had the hardest time maintaining composure just because it was so meaningful.
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Ashley Jones
It was meaningful.
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Jordan Jones
But I think M. Judson might have been the biggest surprise for me. Not that I was surprised. It just. That's the place. Aside from Garden District, like, I didn't know really anybody there already.
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Ashley Jones
Yes.
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Jordan Jones
But I was very impressed with, like, the amount of people that came, like, the amount of support that came out of Greenville, South Carolina, because. Why Greenville, South Carolina? You know?
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Ashley Jones
Yes, I think that. So the publisher was really who helped identify different spots. Like, I had sent them a bunch of bookstores. And of course, plans began to change, you know, when we found out how far along we would be with this baby. But they picked stops. And I was nervous about New Orleans because I know podcast stats and bookshelf shopping stats. And so we just don't have a ton of customers out of New Orleans or that area. We do have some, but it's not, it's not a huge amount. And so that stop made me nervous. And Greenville. I also just wasn't sure Birmingham isn't my hometown or anything, but I definitely have family connections there, both through our family and then through Jordan's family. And I lived there for a little bit and so Birmingham felt like a known entity. But the other two were definitely more surprising.
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Jordan Jones
New Orleans was memorable. I mean, it was a fun event. But I'll remember the parking in New.
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Ashley Jones
Orleans because I was gonna ask was that your most. Was that your most stressful moment?
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Jordan Jones
I think so, yeah. Because I was genuinely having a great time the whole time. Except for when I had to park the car. Ended up dropping you off, driving around I don't know where in New Orleans until finally I think I stopped at a stop sign in a neighborhood and was like, where can I park my car? And I found a paid parking lot. I don't know where it was. It was like a 10 minute walk from the bookstore. It would probably make a finance person uncomfortable. The amount of money that I'd be willing to spend on parking just so I don't have to keep looking for a parking space or so I don't have to parallel park in New Orleans. Um, but I did it and we walked on the car. Don't, don't tell. We're on a podcast, but don't tell anyone that Annie walked back to the car with me.
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Ashley Jones
Listen, I could tell you were stressed when you got back from and it, and it took you a long time. Like, I started to get nervous. I was like, where is she?
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Jordan Jones
Well, yeah, I didn't want to leave you alone to start the event.
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Ashley Jones
Where is she? Why isn't she back yet? But when it was all said and done, I will tell you, it was very gratifying because I am eight years older than you and there have been other road trips that I have been responsible for just by nature of my age, meaning driving you to look at colleges or even though I'm not responsible. Feeling responsible because you're a grown up, but like feeling responsible on that first trip to New York or when we went to cheer her on weekend. Like part of it is a responsibility of like, oh my gosh, I'm the older one. I need to be responsible and part of it is my personality. And then part of it is just like wanting you to have a good time. Especially, like, the New York trip. Cause that was your first visit or whatever. But, you know, when you travel together, you just learn a lot about each other. Like, I remember traveling with a friend somewhere and realizing we weren't good travel buddies. Like, you can't travel with just anybody. I don't think. I think. I think it takes a certain kind of person to be able to mesh well and travel well together. So you and I, I do think, generally speaking, travel very well together. But when we went to Boston for Cheer her on, there was a moment where I could not find parking in this tiny little. I don't even remember which. Do you remember which Massachusetts town that was? It was where the Proposal was filmed. Whatever town that was in.
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Jordan Jones
No, I don't even remember this story you're about to tell.
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Ashley Jones
There was no parking, and we were, like, caravanning with the rest of the Cheer her on group. And it was this beautiful, quaint little town, but parking was a nightmare, and I could not find parking. And I very much liked to be on time. I like to be on time, even if it means I'm sitting in my car waiting so that I can be fashionably late. I prefer to be on time. And, you know, we're trying to meet up with the rest of our group, and I could not find a parking space. And I think this also happens to you. But, like, I was, like, sweaty, and I could feel myself devolving into rage. And you're trying to keep it together because you're like, I don't want to get ragey. I mean, you and I have known each other our whole lives, and so it's not a big deal to rage in front of each other. But, like, I was trying to keep my cool and I couldn't. I was. So I was about to use language. I was about to use my version of language on this podcast. I was so mad, and I was so frustrated. Like, genuinely frustrated. And I remember thinking, oh, like, this isn't fun, like, to be the person who, like, feels a little bit of responsibility or in charge. And, man, there is something about parking. And so when you got back from parking the car in New Orleans, and I think I asked, like, how was it? And you basically said some equivalent of don't ask. I thought, oh, she knows now.
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Jordan Jones
I said, I'll tell you after the event.
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Ashley Jones
That's what you said. Yeah, I'll tell you after the event. And of course, then after the event, it was fine.
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Jordan Jones
And it really wasn't that big of a deal. It's just, you're late and I left you alone. And then I'm alone.
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Ashley Jones
Yes, there is something sweat inducing about it. I don't know another word for it. And so anyway, I'm sorry that that happened to you. And also I like that we each have our own stories from our various cities.
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Jordan Jones
Okay. I will say though, we're good travel partners and I think a lot of that is because, I mean you are the more responsible of the two of us. More organized, more type A. But so like we're good travel partners partly because you plan and I'm just happy to come along and pay for things.
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Ashley Jones
Yeah.
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Jordan Jones
But I would like to say for future trips, if you plan, I'll drive. Like that's my, like driving can be my contribution. Like you're much better at making a reservation and deciding. Deciding like things to go see. But I'll drive us there.
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Ashley Jones
You. I will also give you credit. Typically I'm making all the dinner reservations. I think you sent me an Instagram reel or a TikTok. It was very funny. It was like, it was like that friend. Was it friends or sisters where somebody.
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Jordan Jones
Was like, I must have been friends in the. The type. A friend was like, I'm Annie. And I made the dinner reservations and it cuts to the other friend and it goes, I'm Ashley and then cuts off or something like that. And I'm Annie. I booked the hotel. I'm, I'm Ashley. Nothing.
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Ashley Jones
And that is. I want to give you so accurate. I want to give you credit because like when we go to market, we knew book tour was going to be busy and like a little bit stressful. Like just because I was honestly the pregnant. Honestly the pregnancy part.
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Jordan Jones
The pregnancy and the cold.
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Ashley Jones
Yeah, the pregnancy and then the cold from Hades. And so when we go to Atlanta, my dad makes the all, all the dinner plans and we just get to show up. And the reason that is important is because none of us has the brain power at the end of a day at market to figure out where we're going to go eat. And I will say you were very Johnny on the spot with making sure I got fed. Like, I did not. Like I, I helped make those decisions, but really you were making those decisions and that was impressive.
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Jordan Jones
Listen, I feel like I can step up when I need to and I knew the last thing I wanted you to be was hungry.
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Ashley Jones
Yeah, listen, you don't want me hangry in a non pregnant state, so you really don't want it in a, in a pregnant state. I believe my therapist one time commented, I Don't I wish I, I wish there was some pithy thing she said, but basically this idea that if you're typically type A, embrace when you can be in relationships that make you otherwise. Like she applauded me one time because I was talking about a friendship that I was in and I was like, oh, I'm the laid back friend in that relationship. Like I just show up, I don't. And she was proud of me because in other aspects of my life I have to be in charge because of my work or whatever or my role as an older sibling or what have you. And so congratulations. How healthy of you to really step up and be so responsible.
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Jordan Jones
Thank you for noticing. Plus also, I mean, you know, the eight year difference doesn't super matter now, but never forget the time you were 16, just got your driver's license and I was 8 and my little sister I guess was 5. Yeah, and so you were driving us around town into keep people from kidnapping us.
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Ashley Jones
You made us a legitimate fear.
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Jordan Jones
Yeah, but we all looked like we were 8 year olds.
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Ashley Jones
That's right. I didn't look much older than you, honestly. But I was like, call me mom just because then I thought people, I don't know, I felt like moms had a power.
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Jordan Jones
It's me trying to make up for my mom.
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Ashley Jones
The least I can do is keep.
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Jordan Jones
You fed and find parking.
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Ashley Jones
We had a great time, honestly. Like I think in the moment it was so much, so much was happening that I really. It would probably do me well to like sit down and journal or something or like make a list because so much happened. Like I forgot we stopped in Fairhope.
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Jordan Jones
Right. It's the definition of a whirlwind.
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Ashley Jones
Yeah, I'll also say that stretch from New Orleans to Tallahassee, that was not my favorite drive.
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Jordan Jones
No, that was rough.
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Ashley Jones
That was, that was, that was rough. Okay, last question before we move on. What was your favorite purchase you made at any of the stops or just overall? Did you buy a book that you really wanted? Lots of stores had great merch. Did you buy anything you liked?
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Jordan Jones
Okay, now you are putting me on the spot because I think I only bought things from M. Judson. Right.
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Ashley Jones
Let me think for a second. That's true. Yeah, I think that's true.
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Jordan Jones
I bought two, two classics from M. Judson and a sticker that said hot dogs for you, which I do appreciate.
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Ashley Jones
Which I did appreciate.
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Jordan Jones
Is it bad if the hot dog sticker is my favorite purchase?
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Ashley Jones
It's a great sticker. Okay, so if you want to find out More about book tour and the different stops. You can listen to that Patreon episode. Let's move on. We're going to go back and forth and talk about what we've been reading, watching, listening to, and buying this summ. Or in preparation for summer. I'll kick us off, because I do think you would really like this book. So I listened, actually, while we were on our road trip, I listened to the Griffin Sisters Greatest Hits by Jennifer Weiner. I listened to this because Dakota Fanning was the narrator.
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Jordan Jones
Oh, yeah. You told me about this.
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Ashley Jones
Yeah. And it is a longer audiobook than I generally listen to, so I did wind up buying a copy while we were at one of the bookstores. That way I could. I can read faster than I can listen. And so I was able to finish it in physical format. But Dakota Fanning is a great audiobook narrator. She did. Margot's got money troubles. And I think you'd like this. It's about two women, Cassie and Zoe. They are sisters who performed in a indie rock kind of band in the early 2000s. And then all we know as readers is that they split up. They don't speak to each other anymore. The band doesn't exist anymore. And now Zoe's daughter Cherry is trying to make it big in the music industry. She's, like, going on this American Idol kind of show. And I liked it. It wasn't like, my favorite book I've ever read, but it was really enjoyable and I think would make a great beach read. And I think you'd like it because the music aspect of it.
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Jordan Jones
Yeah. Nice. I don't know why I haven't heard of it before, but it does sound.
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Ashley Jones
Yeah, I think you'd like it. Okay.
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Jordan Jones
I'll start with the one that I read the longest ago. What's that proper sentence?
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Ashley Jones
That was right.
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Jordan Jones
Okay.
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Ashley Jones
That sounded right.
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Jordan Jones
It's Sandwich by Kathryn Newman.
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Ashley Jones
Yes.
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Jordan Jones
Okay.
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Ashley Jones
Yes. Did you read this one? Yes. I love this one. Okay.
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Jordan Jones
My book club read it, and I was one of, I think, two people in my whole book club who was like, I didn't not like it, but, like, other people really did not like this book.
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Ashley Jones
Oh. Oh, my gosh. I loved it. I wonder if you have to be a certain age or life stage. I read it last summer. It deals with, as I recall, some pregnancy loss. And so I remember reading it and feeling very seen. Also, I love. Oh, my gosh. I love a messy family stuck in a beach house over a week. I love that kind of stuff. Give it to me. I love it.
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Jordan Jones
Yeah, it's. It's beachy and it's like heavy on like, menopause talk.
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Ashley Jones
Yes.
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Jordan Jones
But like, I don't know, maybe. Maybe you and I are just used to having older people in our lives and that's just kind of how it goes. Because everybody that I talked to about it felt like the main character was just complaining the whole time. And I was like, no, I think she's just observing, like, her body and her life right now. And I also thought, like, it's a dysfunctional family, but I. If I recall, I think they all like each other.
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Ashley Jones
Yes. They all really like each other. Maybe it has to do with two. You and I definitely grew up. Now, we did not grow up like, with a beach house where, like our family returned to the same beach house every year, but we did grow up going to the same beach every summer for much of our lives. And multiple people sharing a house, like multiple family units sharing a space. And so all of that felt very familiar to me.
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Jordan Jones
Maybe that's it. Maybe that's why I love it so much. Cause those beach trips are some of the. Some of my fondest childhood memories.
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Ashley Jones
Yeah, I would reread this one. I really. I read it on my Kindle as an arc and I would read it again because I. I thought it was great. She's got a new one, a follow up coming this fall. Oh, it's gonna kind of follow the same family. I wanna say. It's called Rec W R E C K. I think that's right.
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Jordan Jones
I was hoping for another lunch. Food.
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Ashley Jones
Mm. Aren't we. Aren't we always?
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Jordan Jones
Now I just remembered Sam, which is the name of a town. Right?
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Ashley Jones
Yeah. Well, and. And her life stage. Right. Because maybe that's it too. You grew up in a family. You grew up in a multi generational house.
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Jordan Jones
Yeah.
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Ashley Jones
And so her grappling with, like having adult children and then also taking care of her aging parents, I mean, that's very familiar.
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Jordan Jones
Very familiar. I wish I had been able to say all of this at book club, but it's great that I'm thinking about it now.
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Ashley Jones
This is why. This is why we do this. I'm so glad you liked it. I. I loved that book. Did you listen to it or read it?
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Jordan Jones
Oh, yeah. I meant to preface, everything I'm about to talk about is audiobook because apparently that's all I can do right now.
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Ashley Jones
Was the narrator of sandwich good?
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Jordan Jones
I think so.
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Ashley Jones
It was okay.
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Jordan Jones
This was months ago now, but okay. Yeah, it was good. She. I mean, she sounded exactly like what I would have pictured pictured.
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Ashley Jones
Hi friends, it's Annie. If you're looking for the perfect companion to our show, check out the Webby Award winning daily podcast Totally Booked with Zibby. It's hosted by my friend and fellow independent bookstore owner Zibby Owens, who's been dubbed New York City's most powerful book fluencer by Vulture. Every weekday on Totally Booked, Zibby sits down with the best and buzziest authors to share work that is truly worth your time. If you're looking for a place to start, I recently stopped by to discuss my new book Ordinary Time and I had an amazing time discussing small town life and lit. So follow Totally Booked with Zibby on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or wherever you're listening now.
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Ashley Jones
Okay. The next book I read, I'm still reading it, actually. I picked up in New Orleans a book called Nine Lives by Dan Baum. This is a backlist title that I picked up because we were in New Orleans, and a friend of mine, actually, this Internet friend, who I'd known. I've known her forever, we share the same anniversary, and it's like we may never Talk, except on November 22, and we wish each other a happy anniversary. It's delightful. But anyway, she and her husband were at the New Orleans event, and they recommended this book, which is kind of the history of New Orleans, but it's told in an oral history format with nine different people after a hurricane in the. I'm gonna get it wrong. Maybe at the turn of the 19th century, and then nine people during and after Hurricane Katrina. And so it basically tells the history of the city through the lens of the people who survived these two hurricanes. I'm loving it so far. I really like the format. I like nonfiction in the summer. I don't know if that's like, please assign Annie summer reading vibes. I don't know. I don't know what that is, but I'm really liking it. And I think also, as a bookseller and a bookstore owner and a book buyer, it's hard to find a book that I've not at least heard of. And it's such a fun surprise when, like, somebody hands me a book and I've never heard of it, and I'd never heard of this, and I'm loving it. Nine Lives by Dan Baum.
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Jordan Jones
Sorry, you're like, I can't remember which late night show does this, but it's like, Stump the Band, but. Stump the Band. Yeah, The Annie.
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Ashley Jones
Bookstore owner.
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Jordan Jones
Yeah.
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Ashley Jones
Yeah.
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Jordan Jones
Okay. Next thing, I finished this on my way to Greenville, and that is everything is Tuberculosis by John Green.
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Ashley Jones
You finished?
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Jordan Jones
I finished. And it's. Listen, I read this because it's John Green, not because it's tuberculosis. And I'm so proud of myself for making it through. At first, I was like, there's no way this is actually about tuberculosis. It's John Green, right?
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Ashley Jones
It's gonna be a metaphor.
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Jordan Jones
There's actually gonna be no medical talk whatsoever. I was incorrect. And I don't know it's very much about tuberculosis. I do not handle medical things well at all. But it was worth getting through all of the medical jargon and all of the. I don't want to say gross, but you know what I mean? All of the.
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Ashley Jones
Yeah, the. The medical details and yeah, it was.
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Jordan Jones
Worth getting through all of that for his message. And honestly, I just think he writes beautifully and has beautiful thoughts.
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Ashley Jones
Yeah. I'd read anything he. I think he is very much proof that I would read anything he writes.
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Jordan Jones
Nice. So. Okay, wait, can I ask a side question?
- [28:54]
Ashley Jones
Yeah.
- [28:55]
Jordan Jones
Okay. If John Green writes a book, it's maybe a given that you're reading it. I guess he's like your free pass. Yeah, like another free pass author who.
- [29:06]
Ashley Jones
Writes as diversely as John Green. Because I think that's the thing. Right. Is he actually is willing to do that. Like make the jump from YA to.
- [29:14]
Jordan Jones
Not John Green, the Taylor Swift of books.
- [29:18]
Ashley Jones
Yeah. He's willing to like cross. Cross genres. I'd have to think about that. But there are certain writers that'd be a good podcast episode, actually. Like, there are certain writers where like, you'd follow them anywhere.
- [29:29]
Jordan Jones
Yeah.
- [29:30]
Ashley Jones
Like you would trust them. And listen, this is what else. I'll say everything is tuberculosis now once I finish that book. Tuberculosis is everywhere. I see tuberculosis everywhere. Every TV show I watch, every book I read. Tuberculosis popped up in that New Orleans book. And I notice it now all the time.
- [29:51]
Jordan Jones
That's so weird. My mom weirdly mentioned tuberculosis the other day. And it's just like when you learn a new word and then you hear that new word everywhere. Even though we know about tuberculosis.
- [30:01]
Ashley Jones
But.
- [30:01]
Jordan Jones
But yeah, tuberculosis, it really is everything.
- [30:07]
Ashley Jones
Okay. My last reading is not a book. I just wanted to put in a plug that I have had the occasional. And I want to. I'm very grateful because throughout my pregnancy I really did fine. Like, they're like, heartburn was really bad, but the insomnia was not terrible. But I have had a handful of sleepless nights. It depends on the night as to what works or soothes me back to sleep or, you know, if it's 4:30 in the morning, is it worth trying to go back to sleep? Like that kind of thing? So one of the things that I did during this pregnancy is I bought subscriptions. I already had a subscription to the New York Times, but I bought a subscription to the New Yorker and the Atlantic so that I could read whatever I wanted, whenever I wanted to. So one night I couldn't sleep. So I read this great piece about Mary Magdalene in the Atlantic. I also read. Oh, it was so good. I read this deep dive into these nuns who work on death row in Texas, like a women's capital punishment center. I feel like I've learned so much and it's so nice to not get an like, how many times have you tried to read an article and it says you are not subscribed and that nothing makes me matter? I like, I just want to be able to read whatever I want to read. And anyway, thanks to some impulse buying, probably at like 3 in the morning, I have subscriptions to the Atlantic and the New Yorker. I'll gift your articles if you want. Just tell me what you're looking for.
- [31:40]
Jordan Jones
That is where Arvin diagrams don't overlap because you could have stopped it. How many times have you tried to read an article?
- [31:51]
Ashley Jones
Not a common problem for you, but.
- [31:54]
Jordan Jones
It'S where we're at.
- [31:56]
Ashley Jones
But I'm so happy for you that.
- [31:58]
Jordan Jones
You can thank you without without the paywall anymore.
- [32:02]
Ashley Jones
If somebody were to ask me like what are your pregnancy hacks? I would be, I would say renting your maternity clothes from Nuuly and subscribing to every news outlet. You can't.
- [32:14]
Jordan Jones
In the time when people are trying to not watch or read the news, subscribe pay money to as many of them as possible.
- [32:23]
Ashley Jones
Look, long form journalism is really important and I'm happy to support it.
- [32:29]
Jordan Jones
Good for you.
- [32:31]
Ashley Jones
Any other readings for you?
- [32:33]
Jordan Jones
One more and I'm in the middle of the wedding people.
- [32:37]
Ashley Jones
Oh, do you like it so far?
- [32:41]
Jordan Jones
Yes. Again, Listen, what is every single one of these books? And I know I've said this before, but I walk into it not knowing anything about it. Oh, I just remembered a watching that I have to write down. Hold on. Okay.
- [32:57]
Ashley Jones
Real time. This is how Ashley's brain works. In case you wonder.
- [33:02]
Jordan Jones
ADHD baby. Okay. No, I like the wedding people. I think I'm just in a depressing part. Unless the whole thing is depressing right now. She it's been out long enough. I don't think I can spoil it. Plus I'm it's only the beginning. Yeah, I can say things. She well, I guess this isn't a spoiler. She's at the hotel and is basically becoming best friends with the bride and she was like, wait a second. I'm laughing so hard right now and taking a bath feels amazing. Like having a body feels great. So I have no. I have genuinely no idea where this is about to go. But I'm enjoying wondering where it's gonna go.
- [33:44]
Ashley Jones
That was one of my favorite books I read last year. I loved it so much. I think it's a very hopeful book about why life is worth living. I loved it and I thought it was really funny too. To me it gets so funny and Just the moment, because we've all been there. You were there recently, but, like, where you go, where you show up at a place and you look around, you're like, oh, everybody here's here for a wedding. And, like, wedding people are a certain kind of people. Like, it's a certain kind of mood. It's a certain kind of atmosphere. And I think Allison and Plant paints that picture so vividly. I loved it. Okay, what are we watching? I am rewatching so much er. I know you just said you don't like medical things, and so this is not for you in any way, shape, or form, but Jordan and I loved the Pit. I would also like to say that we were early adopters of the Pit. I watched the premiere of the Pit the night it came out, and I just. I do. I do feel like I want credit for that. But when the Pit ended, which is a medical drama on HBO starring Noah Wiley, I was devastated, and I needed something to fill the void. And so, er, Is it. Is it a good idea to watch ER or the Pit while pregnant and about to endure the most medically invasive thing you've ever endured in your life? Well, I don't know. Like, part of me is like, maybe this is exposure therapy. Maybe this is. I've always liked medical dramas. The stress is so different from the stress I have in my regular life. And maybe it's familiarizing me with what a hospital's like. I don't know. We'll. We'll see. But I love rewatching ER and it's been a fun thing to take naps too, in the afternoon.
- [35:28]
Jordan Jones
Listen, in Greenville, I came back to the hotel room. You had fallen asleep. ER was on the tv. It was so loud. And medical talk. They were talking about met. They were in a hospital doing disgusting things, and I could not find the remote, and it just kept on. It was just on a loop, episode after episode. I was like, I gotta get out of here. So I just left the hotel room while you were sleeping soundly to your hospital show.
- [36:00]
Ashley Jones
I think it's funny. What also brings me some joy is that what you are kindly not saying is that Jordan also was there napping, and we were all three sharing a hotel room.
- [36:10]
Jordan Jones
I would out.
- [36:13]
Ashley Jones
And I appreciate that I have found a person who also will fall asleep to loudly playing medical job because we both were conked out.
- [36:23]
Jordan Jones
I did walk into the room. I was like, wow, she really has found her person. I thought that. I've thought that several times, but that may be the most recent.
- [36:36]
Ashley Jones
All Right. What else are you watching?
- [36:38]
Jordan Jones
Okay. The one I just wrote down is Sinners, the movie.
- [36:42]
Ashley Jones
Did you go see it?
- [36:43]
Jordan Jones
I went and saw it by myself.
- [36:45]
Ashley Jones
Oh, I'm so proud of you. By yourself.
- [36:48]
Jordan Jones
Listen, it was so much fun. I think this was my very first time going to see a movie by myself.
- [36:53]
Annie Jones
Oh, yay.
- [36:54]
Jordan Jones
Big fan. We'll be doing again. This is an example of not knowing anything about what I'm about to experience. Came to bite me, because if I had known anything about this movie, I probably would not have seen it. I just heard that it was really good, and I. It was a rainy day, and I was like, I got to do something, so I'm going to go watch a movie. But I will say, even though I had to cover my eyes several times, it was a very good movie. Have you seen it yet?
- [37:24]
Ashley Jones
Okay. I'm really hoping that we're going this weekend, and it's like one of our last pre baby things to do. It's what I'm really hoping.
- [37:32]
Jordan Jones
So my favorite thing, normally my favorite thing is humor with heart. This is horror with heart. But, like, it's the with heart part, because I also teared up at a few moments. It was. Oh, it was so terrifying, but so beautiful. And there's this one scene where they're essentially playing music in a barn. You can just see a lot of music and dancing through the years in that particular scene and that and how much. Basically how all of music came from the blues and this particular group of people. And it was just so beautiful. I loved it so much.
- [38:17]
Ashley Jones
Oh, my gosh. I can't wait.
- [38:18]
Jordan Jones
You're gonna love it.
- [38:20]
Ashley Jones
I have not been able to be to the theater much in this season, and that has been really hard. I know it's probably not popular when you're living a really great season in your life to lament about the things that you're missing, but I feel like it's been a good season, but it's been a really chaotic season, and I've not been to the movies, and I love going to the movie theater. So I'm really hoping this is going to be our movie that we go see before life is upended even further.
- [38:47]
Jordan Jones
Please tell me if you do.
- [38:49]
Ashley Jones
Okay. And then the other thing I watched, which we partially watched together, is the Four Seasons on Netflix. And partly we were gonna. I was gonna watch this because you and I, on one of our road trips, listened to the new Amy Poehler podcast, and so it felt like we heard multiple Tina Fey interviews. I don't know why? Well, I made us watch the Seth Meyers one. That's why. I was like, why? Anyway, so we had seen Tina Fey interviewed. We'd heard her interviewed. And then I think you asked me if I had started watching it yet, and I said no. And so the three of us watched it in the room in Greenville. And listen, one thing about Jordan and Annie is we love our tv. And it was only eight episodes. And so in a couple of days, I texted Ashley and was like, are you done yet? Because I wanted to talk about it. Maybe this is like sandwich. Do you. And I just like middle aged shows? Because this has not gotten a ton of friendly buzz on the Internet. And I love it.
- [39:51]
Jordan Jones
Me too. Is that the kicker is that we're millennials who love Boomer content.
- [39:58]
Ashley Jones
Right? Boomer or Xer content? Like, are we? I don't know. I. Because I. No qualms for me. I loved this. I think Colman Domingo is fantastic. It's wild to me to see him in a comedic role. I think you were talking about how good Steve Carell looks. And then there was an episode that we watched without you, and Steve Carell took off his shirt and I was like, what did they make Steve Carell do?
- [40:24]
Jordan Jones
No, I thought the same thing. But my goodness, I was like, oh, Steve, geez.
- [40:30]
Ashley Jones
But anyway, I adored it. I thought it was great. I would rewatch it. It's very much. What did Jordan say? Like St. Elmo's Fire, the Big Chill. Listen, I just love anything on. You could. You could sell me anything that has to do with a group of people, family or friends, convening on a locale.
- [40:48]
Jordan Jones
That's what I was about to say. People on vacation.
- [40:50]
Ashley Jones
Yes. Like a summer house, a country house and an Italian villa. A boat. It doesn't matter. I love it. I love it so much. So glad you suggested that because it was really great. And I think a creative setup of like four seasons, two episodes a season. You know what I mean? Like spring, summer, fall, winter. I thought it was very clever.
- [41:14]
Jordan Jones
Yeah, me too. Even. Even down to like the opening. Opening credits with a little detailed. Yes.
- [41:22]
Ashley Jones
It made me not skip the opening credits. I watched them every time and I.
- [41:26]
Jordan Jones
Had to know what season I was in.
- [41:27]
Ashley Jones
Yeah, loved it.
- [41:29]
Jordan Jones
Same. That was. That's my other watching. I'm just glad. Glad to hear you also. I'm glad to hear you validate my taste basically.
- [41:37]
Ashley Jones
Without spoiling for anyone. Can I just ask you, did you need a second season? Like, do you think we're gonna get a second season? I Honestly don't know.
- [41:44]
Jordan Jones
And do you need one now that what happened, happened? I don't think I need a second season because the thing I thought was gonna happen didn't happen.
- [41:58]
Ashley Jones
But yeah, I didn't need it. Listen, if there were to be a second season, I'd watch it. Of course I would.
- [42:05]
Jordan Jones
Yeah, I'm gonna watch it, but I'm not gonna ask for it.
- [42:07]
Ashley Jones
But I correct, I don't need it. I'm not asking for it. The movie that it's based on is on Netflix now too, and I think I'm gonna watch it.
- [42:14]
Jordan Jones
I saw that. I think I'm gonna watch it too.
- [42:17]
Ashley Jones
Any other things you're watching?
- [42:20]
Jordan Jones
Reruns of Gilmore Girls and Younger.
- [42:23]
Ashley Jones
Oh, younger, I think I will do this summer. I like it. I'll rewatch some of that this summer.
- [42:29]
Jordan Jones
Despite cringe, it's worth it, I think.
- [42:31]
Ashley Jones
Is it different for you now that Sutton actually did have an affair and is like vegid?
- [42:40]
Jordan Jones
We don't know. That's not my business.
- [42:43]
Ashley Jones
I just wondered if it's any different for you.
- [42:45]
Jordan Jones
Sutton Foster forever, you know, I just think she's a great performer.
- [42:49]
Ashley Jones
She is a great performer.
- [42:50]
Jordan Jones
It's fine. And that's, that's what I care about, personal life. Got a little care if we become. If we become peers one day.
- [43:00]
Ashley Jones
Okay, I'm not watching anything else. Here is what I'm listening to. When Jordan and I were driving together to Greenville, we listened to two episodes of the Ezra Klein Show. I don't know if you ever listen to him. I like him because it's the kind of podcast where like you can pick and choose what episodes you want. And so we listened. During one of my bouts of insomnia, I had read an entire transcript of Ezra Klein's interview with New York Times columnist Ross, and I looked up how to pronounce his name. And now I forget. Ross do thot dothat D o u t H a t I read the whole transcript. I thought, oh my gosh, this is such a good conversation. This is a great books level conversation. And so when Jordan and I were in the car together, which we hadn't been in a very long time because of session, I made us listen to this podcast episode and was so validated because Jordan just kept going over and over again, this is so good. This is so good. And I was like, I know this is so good because essentially Ross Douthat. Douthat. I don't know, he maybe is a more center right voice. He is deeply catholic. And then Ezra Klein is a more left. I don't even know where Ezra Klein would identify himself, but he's probably most associated with the left politically. And then I believe he's an agnostic religiously. And the two of them have the most lovely open ended, open handed, generous conversation about religion, politics, AI. At one point they're talking about fairies and demons. I loved it. I loved it so much. And then we also listened to the episode with Jonathan Haidt, who is, I think most recently known for his book called the Anxious Generation. And I loved it because when I listened to stuff like that with Jordan, then we have the best conversation stations. It's great.
- [44:53]
Jordan Jones
Love it again. So happy you found your person.
- [45:00]
Ashley Jones
That's the first thing I listen to. What about you?
- [45:03]
Jordan Jones
I have a bunch of songs for you. First up, two from one artist named Ziggy Alberts. He's Australian. I think these songs are actually really nice for summer too. So one is called Learn Yourself and one is called Laps around the Sun. Learn Yourself is my personal favorite. Very positive, upbeat. Good, good. Like maybe indie folk. Maybe not folk, just some kind of indie. Something heavy on guitar. Peppy. Okay, this is a great review.
- [45:33]
Ashley Jones
I. No, I'm looking it up. You're gonna put in the show notes, right? Or you're gonna put in the PDF. Okay. Because I'm always looking for new music and I do want peppy. Right. So that's what summer is all about.
- [45:44]
Jordan Jones
Yeah. I think you would actually like these.
- [45:46]
Ashley Jones
I found a playlist called Written by Emily Henry playlist. I'll put it in the show notes. It's fantastic. I think somebody must have taken the time and put a playlist together of every song she's mentioned in her books, which that's quite the feat. But she always quotes or doesn't quote from, but she'll mention a lot of what I would call yacht rock songs. And so I love that kind of stuff. So that has been a fun start to summer playlist. And then I have. I have a song for you.
- [46:17]
Jordan Jones
Okay, let's go.
- [46:18]
Ashley Jones
I never have songs for you, but maybe you've already heard of it. But it is called Letting go by Angie McMahon. Have you heard of this?
- [46:26]
Jordan Jones
Okay. I don't think I know that.
- [46:27]
Ashley Jones
They play it in my yoga class. And I think you would Love it.
- [46:31]
Jordan Jones
Angie McMahon.
- [46:34]
Ashley Jones
M C M A H O N. I'll put a link in the PDF too, in the show notes.
- [46:40]
Jordan Jones
Okay. Have you listened to the new Mumford and Sons album?
- [46:45]
Ashley Jones
No. Is it good?
- [46:46]
Jordan Jones
Okay. I can't speak for the rest of the album. But the song Rushmere is fantastic. Beautiful harmony, beautiful words. Probably that's the song that has kept me from listening to the rest of the album.
- [47:02]
Ashley Jones
Okay.
- [47:03]
Jordan Jones
Because.
- [47:03]
Ashley Jones
All right.
- [47:03]
Jordan Jones
I can't get past it.
- [47:05]
Ashley Jones
Okay. I'm excited. I didn't even know. I think I knew they had a new one, but I had not listened. I've not listened to it at all. Okay.
- [47:12]
Jordan Jones
At least that song is worth your time.
- [47:15]
Ashley Jones
Anything else listening?
- [47:17]
Jordan Jones
Yeah, one more. I'm not sure how into this one you're going to be, but it's another song that has kept me from listening to the rest of the album. And that is How Bad do youo Want Me? By Lady Gaga. Have you heard it before?
- [47:28]
Ashley Jones
No, I have not.
- [47:29]
Jordan Jones
It's new in the last couple months and it's for sure gonna show up on my Spotify wrapped because.
- [47:35]
Ashley Jones
Okay, it's.
- [47:36]
Jordan Jones
That's a. That's a Windows down summer song, in my opinion.
- [47:38]
Ashley Jones
Oh, good. Well, because we're looking. Aren't we all just looking for the next, like, Sabrina Carpenter summer album? Like, that's what we're looking for, right?
- [47:46]
Jordan Jones
Yeah, totally the vibe.
- [47:48]
Ashley Jones
I don't.
- [47:48]
Jordan Jones
I don't know about the. Again, I don't know about any other songs on this album, but how bad.
- [47:54]
Ashley Jones
Do you want me?
- [47:55]
Jordan Jones
Is a fantastic song.
- [47:56]
Ashley Jones
Okay, good. Make sure to write those so I don't forget the names. I'm excited. I'm starting to work on my summer playlist. Okay. And then what are we buying?
- [48:06]
Jordan Jones
I feel like you probably have more than me. Do you want to go first?
- [48:09]
Ashley Jones
Yeah, listen, I'm just buying last minute baby stuff and I would if I could and had time go on a diatribe, a monologue about capitalism and baby products and how much I have tried desperately to stay off the algorithm and like to trick the algorithm into not knowing I was pregnant. Probably in the last couple months that has gone by the wayside. But there's just so much stuff people say that you need or really it's even helpful people. And it's just everybody has different opinions because everybody's kids are different. And so what worked for some kids doesn't work for others. So you really don't know, like what kind of bottles, what kind of pacifiers, what kind of diapers, what kind of wipes. And as someone who really. I know I'm an enneagram 5, but the kind of research I like, I just told you I like to listen to the Ezra Klein podcast about fairies, demons and religion. I really don't want to spend my time, my one wild and precious life, looking up stroller details. I really don't. I want to know. Here are my specifications. What stroller? Please don't tell me. Please, nobody DM me, because by the time this episode comes out, I will have a stroller.
- [49:15]
Jordan Jones
Right? Yeah, she's done.
- [49:16]
Ashley Jones
She's good. We're good. Yeah, we're good. But that some baby. Buying stuff has been fun. Like the occasional cute outfit, the loveies, the books. Like, that stuff has been fun, but then some stuff. And look, I loved planning the nursery. That's the kind of like, enneagram5labor. I like to do what I don't want to do. What I really don't want to do is, like, spreadsheet out different bottles, diaper, like, I don't. I don't care. I can't. I can't stress to you enough how I don't care. And so anyway, I've been buying a lot of last minute baby stuff. And then the only other thing I've been buying is I did buy books at every bookstore we went to. And by the time I came home, I had a giant stack. And it filled me with so much joy, you guys.
- [50:08]
Jordan Jones
Every store we went into, she would walk in like, her. Not that she. She never had, like a bad time, but like, her attitude just elevated so much. If you ever question whether or not this woman is in the right job, no need. Because she. I would turn around and she would just be like, admiring all the books. And then to no one in particular, I just happened to be standing there, she would say out loud, multiple times, I love books. Just the sincerest, happiest. I love books.
- [50:45]
Ashley Jones
I did. Everywhere we went, I would walk in. I think we were at Fairhope, we were at Page and Palette. And I just looked around and I was like, I just. I love books. And I. I literally bought at least two or three at every store we went to.
- [51:02]
Jordan Jones
Again, so happy for you.
- [51:04]
Ashley Jones
Yeah, it was great. I loved it. It was a bit. Listen, that was a business expense, baby. Not a bookshelf business expense, but an Annie B. Jones LLC business expense.
- [51:13]
Jordan Jones
Let's go make it work for you.
- [51:15]
Ashley Jones
Yeah. Okay. What have you been buying?
- [51:17]
Jordan Jones
Okay, two. Two things I'll tell you about. Number one is plantain chips.
- [51:24]
Ashley Jones
Oh, I like a plantain chip. What brand are you getting?
- [51:27]
Jordan Jones
Okay, I found Bar Nana. Okay, there's the. My only complaint is the bags are small and they cost. You can. You can get a much cheaper bag, like the same size bag for much cheaper, but bananas Just so good. They're so crispy. And I get the Himalayan pink salt kind. They also have a lime kind that I haven't tried, but I really wish they had like a family size bag because I would eat the entire thing. Not an inspection.
- [51:54]
Ashley Jones
You and your, I would say, like bougie healthy snacks. They're good. Like you know what you're talking about. Listen, I love those little peanut butter things. Yeah.
- [52:04]
Jordan Jones
And if I do tell you something bad, I'll tell you it's bad. Like, I also drink apple cider vinegar. Do I recommend it? No. But is it healthy? Yes.
- [52:13]
Ashley Jones
Yeah. You'll at least give it to you straight? Give it to me straight. What else?
- [52:18]
Jordan Jones
Okay, the other thing I just want to tell you about, this isn't specific, but, and I haven't bought it yet, but I am planning for when I am home after the baby's born and I come to your house, I'm gonna have some fun non alcoholic drinks to make you.
- [52:35]
Ashley Jones
Oh, great.
- [52:35]
Jordan Jones
I've found several recipes that I think you would enjoy.
- [52:39]
Ashley Jones
That is one thing I did tell Jordan. This is hilarious. So I don't drink. It's not a belief thing. It's a, I think it's. I think alcohol tastes gross thing. But during this pregnancy, I told Jordan, I was like, I want to drink a beer when this is all done.
- [52:55]
Jordan Jones
We probably hate it. What if it's changed your taste buds though?
- [52:58]
Ashley Jones
That's what I wonder. But I think I saw like a woman on the Internet who like just gave birth. I really like her. She seems like a low key mom and she was like drinking wine in her backyard and looked so chill. And I was like, I want that to be me.
- [53:15]
Jordan Jones
It can be. Listen, there's like a blueberry lemon slushy situation.
- [53:19]
Ashley Jones
Okay. I would drink that.
- [53:21]
Jordan Jones
There is an alcoholic version of which I'm happy to make.
- [53:25]
Ashley Jones
I'm excited.
- [53:26]
Jordan Jones
Plenty. I have a full non alcoholic menu for you to try for sweet. He's probably going to be too young to sit by the pool, but I envision us sitting by the pool.
- [53:36]
Ashley Jones
We have a patio and he'll nap some. Don't anybody message me about baby's napping. Don't do it.
- [53:45]
Jordan Jones
No, we're talking to you. You can't. There's a reason you can't talk back to us.
- [53:49]
Ashley Jones
Resist the urge to tell us what happened to Bab. Baby's gonna be like, resist it.
- [53:53]
Jordan Jones
Say it out loud in your car and nowhere else.
- [53:55]
Ashley Jones
That's right, yell it. Yell how naive I am somewhere else. But I I do think we'll get to sit by the pool some. The baby might not. Although we did get him a cute little sun hat. Yeah, yeah.
- [54:10]
Jordan Jones
I almost said his name, but him in a sun hat.
- [54:15]
Ashley Jones
Yeah, by the pool.
- [54:17]
Jordan Jones
Oh, sign me up. I'm so excited.
- [54:19]
Ashley Jones
We got him a sun hat and some baby sunglasses. Help. Yeah, I'm pretty excited about that part. Okay everybody, these are our summer things. This is what we've been reading, watching, listening to, and buying. You can find links when necessary in the show notes. Ashley, thank you so much for being here. We're doing it. It's summertime, baby.
- [54:41]
Jordan Jones
Summertime, baby.
- [54:45]
Ashley Jones
This week I'm reading the Emperor of Gladness by Ocean Wong. Ashley, what are you reading?
- [54:51]
Jordan Jones
I'm reading Great Big Beautiful Life by Emily Henry.
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Annie Jones
From the Front Porch is a weekly podcast production of the Bookshelf, an independent bookstore in Thomasville, Georgia. You can follow the bookshelf's daily happenings on Instagram @bookshelf tville, and all the books from today's episode can be purchased online through our store website, bookshelf thomasville.com a full transcript of today's podcast episode can be found at. From the frontporchpodcast.com Special thanks to Studio D Podcast Production for production of from the Front Porch and for our theme music, which sets the perfect warm and friendly tone for our Thursday conversations. Our Executive the executive producers of today's episode are Kami Tidwell, Jamie Treadwell, Linda Lee Drost, Jean Queens Martha Stephanie Dean.
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Ashley Jones
Beth Ashley Farrell, Amanda Wickham, Nicole Marcy Wendy Jenkins.
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Annie Jones
Thank you all for your support of.
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Ashley Jones
From the Front Porch.
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Annie Jones
If you'd like to support from the Front Porch, please leave a review on Apple Podcasts. You your input helps us make the show even better and helps us reach new listeners. All you have to do is open up the podcast app on your phone. Look for from the Front Porch.
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Ashley Jones
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Annie Jones
Write a review and tell us what you think. Or, if you're so inclined, support us. Over on Patreon, where we have three levels of support.
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Ashley Jones
Each level has an amazing number of.
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Annie Jones
Benefits like bonus content, access to live events, discounts, and giveaways. Just go to patreon.com forward/from the front Porch. We're so grateful for you and we look forward to meeting back here next week.