For Three Transgressions, and for Four

Summary

Gilbert House Fellowship — Episode Summary Episode Title: For Three Transgressions, and for Four
Date: March 15, 2026
Hosts: Derek & Sharon Gilbert
Theme: Verse-by-verse study of the Book of Amos (Chapters 1–3) with contemporary reflections, deeper theological commentary, and practical applications.

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Episode Overview

In this episode, Derek and Sharon launch their study of the Book of Amos, one of the “minor prophets” of the Old Testament. By carefully walking through the first three chapters, they explore Amos’ context, structure, and critical messages—drawing rich parallels between ancient Israel’s challenges and the present day. The discussion is interlaced with engaging asides about biblical translation, personal updates, theological debates, and heartfelt listener questions.

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Key Discussion Points and Insights

1. Why Study Amos?

(04:47–07:05)

• The Gilberts explain their chronological, verse-by-verse method, emphasizing that Amos, though called a 'minor prophet,' carries major theological weight.
• “They are minor only in the amount of words they produced, but not minor at all in terms of what you revealed to the world through them.” — Derek (06:45)

2. Context and Structure of Amos

(09:40–14:40)

• Amos: a shepherd and farmer from southern Judah, called unexpectedly as a prophet to Israel (the northern kingdom), during a period of peace and prosperity (c. 780–740 B.C.).
• The main indictment: both kingdoms are wealthy yet spiritually complacent and exploitative, especially the north under Jeroboam II.
• Structure:
  • Oracles against the nations
  • Judgment against Judah and Israel
  • Series of prophetic visions and promise of ultimate restoration

3. The Translation Conversation

(14:40–16:00 and throughout)

• Sharon and Derek alternate reading from the ESV and the Septuagint (Brenton & Lexham).
• Noted substantial translation differences highlight nuanced shades of meaning (for example, "threshing sledges of iron" vs. "sawed with iron saws the women with child" — Amos 1:3).
• Discussion of the translation history:
  • Masoretic Text (basis for most English Bibles)
  • Septuagint (Greek translation by Jewish scholars, c. 3rd century BC)
  • How modern translations sometimes “de-supernaturalize” the text post-Christianity.

4. Condemnations Against Israel’s Neighbors

(17:56–29:11)

• Pattern: “For three transgressions and for four…” (a poetic formula indicating overflowing sinfulness).
• Nations judged: Damascus (Aram), Gaza (Philistines), Tyre, Edom, Ammon, Moab.
• Sins specified: Violence, slave trading, betrayal of kinship covenants, atrocities against women and children (paralleled to current atrocities in the Middle East).
• Notable Quote:
  • “We see a modern version of this.” — Sharon (24:39), highlighting the recurring nature of human cruelty and injustice.

5. Special Focus: Moab and the Cult of Molech

(31:27–34:37)

• Deep dive into Amos 2:1 ("burned to lime the bones of the king of Edom")—possible connections to human sacrifice, with reference to scholarly debates and ancient ritual desecrations.
• Molech/Milcom discussed as a patron deity receiving child sacrifice—echoed in various ancient cultures and biblical condemnations.

6. God’s Indictment of His Own People

(35:17–44:42)

• Judah & Israel’s unique guilt: They alone had the Law yet embraced idolatry, legal injustice, oppression, sexual immorality.
• Application: The shrinking middle class and rising injustice today parallel ancient Israel’s sins.
• Romans 11 & Unconditional Covenant: Derek discusses misconceptions about God’s promises to Israel, emphasizing that the restoration of Israel is irrevocable despite national sin (36:10–39:29).
• Quote:
  • "The calling and the gifts are irrevocable." — Derek (39:29)

7. Samuel’s Moral Decay: Chapter 2's Indictment

(40:54–43:52)

• Amos accuses Israel of selling the righteous for silver, trampling the poor, and sexual immorality (“a man and his father go into the same girl…”).
• Rhetorical questions illustrate God’s justice as inevitable and logical.

8. Rhetorical Artistry and Poetic Devices

(44:42–53:04, Amos 3:1–3:15)

• Derek highlights the series of rhetorical questions (Amos 3:3–8) that reinforce God’s justice.
• The poetic and sometimes cryptic structure of Hebrew prophecy is explained and admired.

9. Faithful Remnant and Divine Judgment

(51:32–53:04)

• Only a small remnant of Israel will be saved, as illustrated by the shepherd recovering only “two legs or a piece of an ear."

10. Modern Parallels, Prophecy, and Current Events

(12:52–27:51; recurring throughout)

• The hosts frequently draw parallels between Amos’s indictments and modern societal trends (wealth disparity, violence, idolatry), adding urgency to the ancient message.
• Brief mention of Israel’s modern struggles and how prophecy is perceived in the current era.

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Notable Quotes and Memorable Moments

• “Thus says Yahweh: For three transgressions…and for four, I will not revoke the punishment.” — recurring refrain (multiple verses, e.g., 18:10)
• “If somebody today who claims a prophetic gift and says, ‘Thus says the Lord,' they better be 100% accurate.” — Derek (17:39)
• “God desires family, and that desire is reflected in our desire for family, which is why it is so horrific when we see those desires perverted and twisted…” — Derek (80:43)
• “The gifts and calling of God are irrevocable.” — Derek (39:29; referencing Romans 11)
• “The light shall not be extinguished. May we do our part to reflect that light into the darkness…” — Derek, prayer (86:55)

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Timestamps for Important Segments

• [04:47] — Philosophy of studying the Bible chronologically
• [09:40] — Historical context and character of Amos
• [14:40] — Septuagint vs. Masoretic Text discussion
• [17:56] — “For three transgressions and for four” pattern begins
• [24:46] — Parallels between ancient and modern atrocities
• [31:27] — Molech, human sacrifice, and translation debates
• [36:10] — God’s covenant with Israel; Romans 11 reference
• [40:54] — Indictment of Israel: justice, social decay, sexual sin
• [47:48] — Amos’s rhetorical questions about inevitability of judgment
• [51:32] — Interpretation of remnant metaphor (“two legs or a piece of an ear”)
• [83:43] — Prayer for children, animal companions, and the suffering
• [86:55] — Derek’s closing prayer for wisdom, healing, and faithfulness

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Listener Questions & Pastoral Reflections

[72:41–77:29]

• Question: Will we be able to have children in our glorified bodies?
  • Answer: Scriptural basis (Matthew 22:30) shows we will be like the angels—neither marrying nor reproducing; reflections on spiritual family and comfort for those desiring children.
• Pastoral empathy toward those who are childless and encouragement that Christ’s kingdom will satisfy all deep longings.
• Prayer for Molly’s bobcat (Cleo) and Nicole’s cat (Booker), reflecting on God’s compassion for all creation.

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Personal Updates and Community

[65:10–71:16]

• Derek’s ongoing health challenges and the logistics of selling their Missouri home for better proximity to medical care.
• Conference announcements, ministry updates, and transition details from SkyWatchTV.

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Memorable Moments of Fellowship

• Sharon and Derek’s banter about aging, prayer, and farm life.
• Warm shout-outs to people who’ve inspired them, including colleagues, scholars, and podcast listeners.
• Deep, heartfelt prayer at [83:43], weaving together themes of justice, hope, and divine love.

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Conclusion

The main thrust of this episode is the timeless relevance of Amos’s call to justice, true worship, and faithfulness—both for ancient Israel and for contemporary believers. The Gilberts model a study style that is scripturally rigorous yet deeply pastoral, asking hard questions while offering hope grounded in God’s unconditional promises.

Listeners come away with a better grasp of Amos’s prophetic edge, the complexities of biblical text transmission, and the ever-present call to walk humbly with God amidst the “doom and gloom” of the news cycle. The tone remains warm, candid, and encouraging throughout.

Transcript

[Sharon Gilbert]

Foreign.

[Derek Gilbert]

From the beautiful Missouri Ozarks, it's the Gilbert House fellowship for Sunday, March 15, 2026. I'm Derek Gilbert.

[Sharon Gilbert]

Hi, I'm Sharon Gilbert. And we're delighted to have you as our guests in our lives. Lovely home.

[Derek Gilbert]

Yeah. We are here in our living room once again. Got a fresh cup of coffee. Thank you, sweetheart. And ready to dive into a. A new book of the Bible. It's not a new book of the Bible. A we will begin a book that we have not yet studied here for.

[Sharon Gilbert]

Oh, not in this run go through.

[Derek Gilbert]

We probably back in 2016. I think we probably got to it somewhere around there.

[Sharon Gilbert]

Good grief. Yes. It's been a long time now. When we originally went through the Bible

[Guest or Panelist]

starting in 2014, I think

[Sharon Gilbert]

did not know as much.

[Guest or Panelist]

We didn't have as much information for context.

[Sharon Gilbert]

So we went through it a bit faster even though at the time we

[Guest or Panelist]

thought we were just crawling through it.

[Derek Gilbert]

Yeah. And now this time we are really crawling through it. But we get to it a third time. Well, God willing, probably go even more slowly. So thank you for joining us. Thank you for taking time out of your. Your schedule, your life, whenever or wherever you might be. If you are listening to this on YouTube. Thank you, we appreciate that. Please subscribe. Share. Click the bell for notifications and so that you get notified when we post new things to our YouTube channel, which is ilberthouse. YouTube.comilberthouse.

[Sharon Gilbert]

and who knows, we may go live on there one day.

[Derek Gilbert]

I'm sure we will. I figured that out. In fact, I figured it out so hard I actually did it by accident the other day. We'll tell you about that later. But because YouTube sometimes gets funny with its community guidelines, you want to download our mobile app to your smartphone or tablet and that guarantees that nothing that we put up there will get. In other words, it guarantees we will not be canceled from you.

[Sharon Gilbert]

Yeah, the company that does our mobile app and they do this for many, many other organizations. They are Christian companies. So shout out to Subsplash. We love those guys. They're very good. If you have a church and you're thinking we need an app of our. We highly recommend Subsplash. But we try not to do anything that's going to flag us as troublemakers because we consider YouTube an amazing opportunity to discover people that yet, you know, they maybe haven't gone to the Bible.

[Derek Gilbert]

It's a virtual Mars hill. It's just a. It's not that we're wanting the clicks. It's not that we're wanting, you know, to, to drive engagement. It's. It's simply. That's where most of the many people are.

[Sharon Gilbert]

Yeah.

[Derek Gilbert]

And yeah, we know there are other platforms out there. We've. We've got. In fact, I was just asked the other day, why don't you guys use Rumble? And familiar with Rumble. We use it at Skywatch TV all the time. But it's. It's got a smaller percentage of people out there. Yes, I know. They're less likely to cancel you. It's just we've got more than 10 years of YouTube archives and more than 20 years of audio archives and transferring all that to YouTube would just be really time intensive. Yeah, they used to have a tool where you could just ingest to YouTube or to rumble all of your YouTube content. And I think Google put a stop to that.

[Sharon Gilbert]

Oh, I'm sure they did.

[Derek Gilbert]

I'll check it again because would be nice. Yeah, be nice because we look the more platforms we're on, again, it's not about us being famous. It's just about trying to reach people with the word of God. But again, to kind of protect yourself. And also to make it convenient, you can bring all our studies into your phone or tablet. IOS, Android, Amazon, Kindle, Fire. And the link is Gilberthouse.org app. There are links there to those app stores. And the app also has some additional features to it that are really helpful. It's got a Bible module so you can follow along while we're going through the study. Multiple Bible translations on that app. In fact, it's got an audio Bible

[Sharon Gilbert]

which is really handy if say, you drive for a living or you do something as a career like painting.

[Derek Gilbert]

Yeah. Listen to scripture. Listen to scripture while you're falling asleep even. You can do that from our app thanks to subsplash. Very powerful, very versatile. Again, as Sharon said, if you've got a church and you're looking for a way to connect your Bible studies or connect the pastor to the elders or whatever, there are ways you can do that in that app. So we highly Recommend it anyway Gilberthouse.org app for that.

[Guest or Panelist]

And also.

[Sharon Gilbert]

But if you are new to this study, we go through this chronologically. So it's in the order that things occurred.

[Derek Gilbert]

Yeah. And that's why sometimes we. Well, no, not sometimes. It's why we bounce around a lot. For example, the last few weeks we've been in Isaiah. Isaiah was like one chapter per week. Seven, eight, nine. Because really deep stuff in there. Our schedule for today says Amos chapters one through five. I suspect we may not get that far. But we'll find out.

[Sharon Gilbert]

Probably not.

[Derek Gilbert]

But again, it's because these are the order in which these books were written. And so we've got a number now of at the time period we're in 8th and 7th centuries BC where you've got a number of prophets who were contemporaries. And that is why after Isaiah chapter nine, we're bouncing over to Amos now, because Amos lived roughly at the same time as Isaiah, both of them living during the beginning of the reign of King Uzziah, who is whose reign we covered in second king or first Kings and second Kings and second Chronicles, known as a good king mostly till he got the end of his life. There was also that massive earthquake that's

[Sharon Gilbert]

coming in verse one.

[Derek Gilbert]

Yeah. So we will get into all that after we open with a word of prayer. Father, we thank you for bringing us together over your word today. And Lord, even though Amos is considered one of the minor prophets, is minor only in that he didn't write as much as the major prophets like Ezekiel and Isaiah and Jeremiah. So Lord, when we study any of the so called minor prophets, we pray that your spirit will guide us and help us to take the information, the lessons from their writings that you would have us learn because they are minor only in the amount of the amount of words they produced, but not minor at all in terms of what you revealed to the world through them. Father, we pray for wisdom as we study. Help us to learn that which you would have us know. And we ask this in Jesus name, Amen.

[Sharon Gilbert]

Amen. As we record this on the 15th of March, the IDEs of March. And your mother's birthday.

[Derek Gilbert]

That is right, my mother. 89 today.

[Sharon Gilbert]

I know, I know. We were going to go visit her. If you follow us on Facebook, I posted that, but I updated that post by saying it looks like we're going to get a major storm here. And it would be while we're driving to your mom's place over at the manor where she lives. And the wind is supposed to be like 20 miles an hour. Even in 10 miles an hour, I notice it really buffeting the car. 20. There's no shoulder on a lot of these country roads. Nowhere to go except the ditch.

[Derek Gilbert]

We will put that off. We'll visit mom this coming week.

[Sharon Gilbert]

Yeah. And so happy birthday surely.

[Derek Gilbert]

Right, Ben? The storm system, by the way, coming through. We're at the very southwestern end of it as this fires up today. I was watching one of the weather related channels on YouTube last night, a couple that we really like, Ryan Hall, y'. All. And Max Velocity.

[Sharon Gilbert]

Yeah, they're both great.

[Derek Gilbert]

And the young man who does the Max Velocity channel was explaining how this storm is going to lead to some pretty nasty weather further north and east of us. And that's often the way it is. The warm, moist air coming up out of the Gulf of America and hitting the jet stream in the cooler air coming out of Canada often hits and mixes in eastern Oklahoma and southwest Missouri. So again, we're going to hit, you know, we're going to get some of it today, but the worst of it is going to be on a line heading north and east from here through St. Louis, central Illinois and up into.

[Sharon Gilbert]

Yeah, this is a big northern front, the Ohio Valley, big northern front that's going to drop our temperatures a lot. And sometimes that can produce big storms,

[Guest or Panelist]

but also tornadoes sometimes.

[Derek Gilbert]

And that's the risk with this storm. So if you're in the Midwest, the Ohio Valley and up to the Northeast, just be aware of what's going on today because things may get nasty as the. As the day goes on. Was strange, tiny year. We're having to switch back and forth in the H vac system from heat to air conditioning. In fact, we had the AC on this morning because it was so warm yesterday, but it's supposed to drop below freezing tonight. Yeah, so.

[Sharon Gilbert]

So we'll be switching back to heat probably later this morning. Yeah.

[Derek Gilbert]

Anyway.

[Sharon Gilbert]

Crazy.

[Derek Gilbert]

So the prophet Amos was not a professional, if you will, prophet. He was not a trained in the school of the prophets. He was not one who had a long prophetic ministry like Isaiah, who or Jeremiah, who went decades, Daniel, who went decades as a prophet. Amos was from a town called Tekoa, which was in the kingdom of Judah. But his short prophetic ministry was basically directed at the northern kingdom of Israel. Even though he came from the south, he lived during the reigns of King Uzziah or Azariah, King of Judah, and King Jeroboam II in Israel. And this was at a time in the 8th century, between about the 780s and the 740s B.C. when the land was at peace. And so both kingdoms got rich, fat and happy. And although Uzziah or Azariah was known as a good king in the south, Jeroboam II continued to lead God's people astray following the evil that Jeroboam I, who rebelled against Solomon about 200 years before, this time worshiping the golden calves at Dan and at Bethel, which we think was not an idolic representation of Yahweh, but was representation of the Father God of the Canaanites. El, whose main epithet or nickname was bull. L. And the golden calves were only called calves as a way of insulting bull. L. Oh, you're no bull, you're just a calf. Anyway, Amos was a shepherd. He was likely the owner of his flock and not just a hired hand. Yeah, he also, according to Amos, we'll see, tended sycamore figs. But beyond the fact that he owned sheep and tended figs, we don't really know much at all about Amos.

[Sharon Gilbert]

I didn't know sycamores had fruit.

[Derek Gilbert]

Well, they called them sycamores. I suspect it was a different type of tree because. Yeah. The kind of tree here that we in the United States think of as a sycamore does not produce fruit.

[Sharon Gilbert]

Yeah, yeah.

[Derek Gilbert]

The structure of the Book of Amos, very briefly, three sections. The first section, first couple chapters, introduces Amos and then condemns some of Israel's neighbors for the evil they've done against God's people. But the last two sections in the first couple chapters condemn the people of Judah. And then the longest section, the people of Israel for injustice, sexual immorality, the rich oppressing the poor. Which sounds like a parallel with modern day America.

[Sharon Gilbert]

Well, with modern day many countries.

[Derek Gilbert]

Yeah. Yeah. You look at the. The wealth gap that has really over the last 50 years in the United States gone to ridiculous levels. I mean, at ludicrous speed.

[Sharon Gilbert]

The middle class is shrinking.

[Derek Gilbert]

It is shrinking. The rich get richer and the poor get poorer. And that is essentially what was happening in the kingdoms of Israel and Judah in the 8th century BC. So that is essentially the opening of the Book of Amos. The final section is interesting because that deals with some prophetic visions of the judgment for Israel and that is culminated with a message that God would remember his covenant with Israel and would restore a faithful remnant.

[Guest or Panelist]

That covenant is unconditional, unconditional and irrevocable,

[Derek Gilbert]

as we see elsewhere in Scripture. So anyway, that in a very brief outline is the structure of the Book of Amos. Amos, again, roughly contemporary with Isaiah, Micah and Hosea. Yeah, because Hosea's got some really interesting stuff in there and I know that his condemnation of the Northern kingdom is. Fits in this time frame and also very specifically condemns the cult of Bull El. So Amos chapter one, beginning at verse one.

[Sharon Gilbert]

Again, if you're new Derek is going to read whoever's the primary reader is reading from the esv, the English Standard Version. It's just one we like, but you know, there are others we also like. The Net Bible, New English Translation and Faith Life Study Bible and the King

[Derek Gilbert]

James is still a good translation.

[Sharon Gilbert]

Really beautiful translation.

[Derek Gilbert]

Beautiful translation.

[Sharon Gilbert]

I am going. The one who's not the primary reader is allegedly, we have to say, silently reading along to see if there are big differences between that and the Brenton or even the Lexham version of the Septuagint.

[Derek Gilbert]

Right. That was translated by Jewish religious scholars in the third century BC completed roughly around 200 BC.

[Sharon Gilbert]

So there's about a 1200 year gap between that translation and most of our modern translations based on different texts.

[Derek Gilbert]

Yeah. The Masoretic text is the basis for our modern English translations. And we were, in fact we were discussing this morning some of the differences we found in Deuteronomy 32 between Septuagint and the, and the ESV, which like all modern English translations and the King James is based on the Masoretic Hebrew text because the Hebrew scholars, the Jewish religious scholars after the second century A.D. began de emphasizing the supernatural in the Masoretic in their translations because it was giving Christians evidence support for the truth claims of Christianity. Anyway, Amos, chapter one, the words of Amos, who was among the shepherds of Tekoa, which he saw concerning Israel in the days of Uzziah, king of Judah, and in the days of Jeroboam, the son of Yoash, king of Israel, two years before the earthquake.

[Guest or Panelist]

Almost identical in the Septuagint with the exception that says the words of Amos which came to him in Akarim.

[Derek Gilbert]

Okay.

[Guest or Panelist]

Ochre, maybe out of Toccoa. It, it is a C, C, A R, I, M. Yeah. In the English translation.

[Derek Gilbert]

Yeah, I see that.

[Guest or Panelist]

Don't know what that refers to.

[Derek Gilbert]

Don't know. Yeah. Tis a puzzlement.

[Guest or Panelist]

I know.

[Derek Gilbert]

King of Siam.

[Sharon Gilbert]

I'm sure, I'm sure that the two volume set by David. Not David. Doug Woodward called rebooting the Bible, which is all about the Septuagint. I bet it explains it.

[Derek Gilbert]

Well, he might. He might. Verse 2. And he said, yahweh roars from Zion and utters his voice from Jerusalem. The pastures of the shepherds mourn and the top of Carmel withers.

[Sharon Gilbert]

I love the roars.

[Derek Gilbert]

Yes.

[Sharon Gilbert]

Since we're going through roaring lion right now.

[Derek Gilbert]

Thus says Yahweh. This is something you will see from the prophets and from actual legitimate prophets. If somebody today who claims a prophetic gift and says thus says the Lord, they better be 100% accurate.

[Sharon Gilbert]

Absolutely.

[Derek Gilbert]

Yeah.

[Sharon Gilbert]

Otherwise they're not telling you they're not a prophet.

[Derek Gilbert]

Yes.

[Sharon Gilbert]

By the way, there is a structure here, almost a poetic structure that you're going to see where you have repeated patterns.

[Derek Gilbert]

Yes. It is something that is often found in the Old Testament. Yeah. Thus says Yahweh, for three transgressions of Damascus, and for four, I will not revoke the punishment. And that's the pattern there, because they have threshed Gilead with threshing sledges of iron. Gilead was land east of the Jordan river, part of the territory of the tribe of Reuben. Damascus, of course, was the capital city of the king of Aram, the Arameans. So I will send a fire upon the house of Hazael and it shall devour the strongholds of Ben Hadad.

[Guest or Panelist]

In verse three, it says, for three sins of Damascus, and for four, I will not turn away from it because they sawed with iron saws. The women with child are the Gileadites. Ooh, that's entirely different.

[Derek Gilbert]

It's a little more specific. Yeah.

[Guest or Panelist]

Sawing with iron saws.

[Derek Gilbert]

Well, threshing with Gilead. I mean, if you're out there threshing the grain, you're cutting it down. So.

[Guest or Panelist]

Yeah, but this says the women with child.

[Derek Gilbert]

I know that. Like I said, it's more specific.

[Guest or Panelist]

Really, that, that's. That's very picturesque.

[Derek Gilbert]

Yes, it is. We've encountered, by the way, the names of Hazael and Ben Hadad before, because those were. Those were kings of Aram. Hazael became the king in 842 BC by. Well, by assassinating his. Assassinating the king. In fact, Hazael was the one who came. Oh, gosh, I'm gonna have to go. I'm starting to talk and I'm not remembering what I was going to say or the.

[Sharon Gilbert]

Welcome to my world, Haza El.

[Derek Gilbert]

Okay, yes, I was remembering correctly. He was anointed by Elijah. Oh. 1 Kings 19:15. Elijah anointed Haza El as king. And then he was distressed because God had shown him what Hazael was going to do to the northern kingdom of Israel.

[Sharon Gilbert]

Why did you have me anoint this guy?

[Derek Gilbert]

Yeah, Ben Hadad was one of the Hazael's sons, but it was a sort of a dynastic name. It means son of the storm God, or son of baal. Actually, Hadad was the official name of baal, which just means lord, but, yeah, those were the kings of the powerful neighboring kingdom of Aram. So I will send a fire upon the house of Hazael and it shall devour the strongholds of Ben Hadad. I will break the gate bar of Damascus and cut off the inhabitants from the valley of Aven.

[Sharon Gilbert]

This Is the plain of On.

[Derek Gilbert]

On. The alternate in the Hebrew according to the esv is also on On. And him who holds the scepter from Beth Eden. Beth Eden was an Aramean state further north. It was near Harran, where Abraham came from.

[Sharon Gilbert]

I don't see that in here. It says Haran. It says, and will cut in pieces a tribe out of the men of Haran.

[Derek Gilbert]

Yeah, that's. That's where the kingdom of Beth Eden was located.

[Guest or Panelist]

Okay.

[Sharon Gilbert]

It doesn't.

[Derek Gilbert]

He also known as Bit Adini in some of the Akkadian texts, or Assyrian texts, rather Bit Adeni. But Beth Eden. And the people of Syria shall go into exile to cure. This says Yahweh.

[Sharon Gilbert]

This says the famous people of Syria. You know, all the celebrities.

[Derek Gilbert]

Yeah, cure probably a city of Mesopotamia. Verse 6. Now, thus says Yahweh. Now we move to a new condemnation of another neighboring kingdom. For three transgressions of Gaza and for four, I will not revoke the punishment because they carried into exile a whole people to deliver them up to Edom.

[Sharon Gilbert]

This says they took prisoners the captivity of Solomon to shut them up into Edom.

[Derek Gilbert]

Yeah. Don't have any historical context for this, but it's possible that the people of. Oh, oh, oh. Well, maybe stretching is too far in relating this to what's happened here in recent history. But anyway, the possible that the Philistines, which was, of course, the territory of Gaza back in the day, may have been involved in a slave trade and carried off some people of Judah to sell them to slavery in Edom.

[Sharon Gilbert]

That could be. And these things, you can actually look and see what happened in history because this was given to Amos two years before the earthquake.

[Derek Gilbert]

Right? Yeah. Which, if I remember correctly, was dated by seismologists to around the year 742 BC, give or take. So anyway, that's roughly where we're in. We're somewhere in the middle of the 8th century BC, but again, we don't know for sure.

[Sharon Gilbert]

Sure.

[Derek Gilbert]

When the Philistines were carrying off the people of Judah or Israel, the punishment. I will cut off. No, rather verse seven. So I will send a fire upon the wall of Gaza and it shall devour her strongholds. I will cut off the inhabitants from Ashdod, which today is an Israeli port city, and him who holds the scepter from Ashkelon, likewise, that's just north of the modern border with the Gaza Strip. I will turn my hand against Ekron and the remnant of the Philistines shall perish, says the Lord Yahweh. And that was in fact what happened a couple hundred years later when the Chaldeans, the Neo Babylonians under Nebuchadnezzar came and swept through the area. The Philistines basically disappear from history at that point.

[Guest or Panelist]

What's so interesting, as you were saying a second ago, is that we see modern version of this.

[Derek Gilbert]

Yes.

[Guest or Panelist]

Sometimes you'll get. This will be to show that the prophet is literally speaking for the Lord. You'll get an almost immediate fulfillment. And then you might get an echo of that in today.

[Derek Gilbert]

Yeah, because we're seeing this today with, you know, Israel having to. Israel going into southern Syria to protect the Druze from the so called moderate Al Qaeda in suits that now is in charge of Syria. Also into Gaza after Gaza carried off people into exile in a manner of speaking on October 7th of 2023.

[Sharon Gilbert]

Also in Lebanon, which we're going to see in the next verse.

[Derek Gilbert]

Yes, verse 9. Thus says Yahweh for three transgressions of tyre and and for four, I will not revoke the punishment because they delivered up a whole people to Edom and did not remember the covenant of brotherhood

[Sharon Gilbert]

we're seeing again in the Septuagint because they shut up the prisoners of Solomon. And that may just refer to the people of Jerusalem. Don't know, white says prisoners of Solomon into Idumea. But you know, Edom is just southern Jordan.

[Derek Gilbert]

Right, Right.

[Sharon Gilbert]

So we're seeing Jordan getting pulled into a lot of this Middle east activity as well.

[Derek Gilbert]

Interestingly, Ezekiel makes reference to Tyre and again delivering up a whole people to Edom. Tyre was involved in the slave trade according to Ezekiel, Ezekiel 27:13, Yavan or Javan, Tubal and Meshech. And Yavan was the Hebrew way of spelling, like Ionian meaning the Greeks. So Tubal and Meshech and those are both people groups in modern day Eastern Turkey traded with you. They exchanged human beings and vessels of bronze for your merchandise.

[Sharon Gilbert]

Slave trade.

[Derek Gilbert]

Slave trade. So Tyre was involved in that

[Sharon Gilbert]

verse

[Derek Gilbert]

10 and Islam is involved in the slave trade even today. So I will send a fire upon the wall of Tyre and it shall devour her strongholds. Tyre was besieged by Nebuchadnezzar, but he couldn't take it. But Alexander the Great did in the 4th century BC verse 11. Thus says Yahweh for three transgressions of Edom and for four I will not revoke the punishment because he pursued his brother with the sword, meaning the people of Israel, and cast off all pity and his anger tore perpetually and he kept his wrath forever. So I will send a fire upon Timon and. And it shall devour the strongholds of Basra.

[Sharon Gilbert]

Back in, by the way, there are a couple of cities called Basra, and it's easy to get them confused. But in verse 11, it says, because they pursued their brothers with the sword and destroyed the mother upon the earth

[Guest or Panelist]

and summoned up his anger for a

[Sharon Gilbert]

testimony and kept up his feet, fury to the end. I know.

[Derek Gilbert]

Kept his wrath forever. But again, talking about destroying mothers. Yeah. And remembering again that Edam was founded by Esau, the brother of Jacob. That's the reference there to pursuing his brother.

[Guest or Panelist]

And he did. Yes.

[Derek Gilbert]

Yeah. Basra. B O Z R A H. I know there's a Basra in Iraq. B A S R A Basra was in what is now southern Jordan, and it was the kingdom or the capital of Edam.

[Sharon Gilbert]

And it was near Timon, which is down there by petra.

[Derek Gilbert]

Yes. Verse 13. Thus says Yahweh for three transgressions of the Ammonites, and for four, I will not reject, revoke the punishment because they have ripped open pregnant women in Gilead, again, the territory of Reuben, that they might enlarge their border.

[Sharon Gilbert]

And again, a reference to women with child and destroying women and boy. Howdy. We saw a lot of that in the modern Gaza. October 7th.

[Derek Gilbert]

Yes. So I will kindle a fire in the wall of Rabbah, which is today the capital city, Amman, and it shall devour her strongholds with shouting on the day of battle, with a tempest in the day of the whirlwind. And their king shall go into exile, and he, or he and his princes together. Says Yahweh. That Interesting. Their king could also be Milcom shall go into exile, which is Molech, their king. Yeah, Melech Molech. And we know from first kings that Milcom and Molech are interchangeable. So chapter two. Yeah, Interesting God talking about the. The patron deity of the. Of the Ammonites there, Milcom Molech shall go into exile.

[Guest or Panelist]

Well, now I am going to read aloud and Derek will follow along silently.

[Sharon Gilbert]

Follow along.

[Guest or Panelist]

Chapter two of Amos. Thus says Yahweh. And by the way, we say Yahweh. It isn't any sort of mystical name. It is just all caps. Lord.

[Derek Gilbert]

Yeah.

[Guest or Panelist]

Which is all caps. Because it is the one time where the word lord is translating Yahweh.

[Derek Gilbert]

Right.

[Guest or Panelist]

Which is the name that the Lord himself gives as his name.

[Derek Gilbert]

Yeah. Because there is a Hebrew word that actually translates as lord. Actually two. There's baal, baal, and then Adonai. Yeah. But when out of respect for the name Yahweh. That's why it's translated. It's just traditional.

[Sharon Gilbert]

There's a reason why the Holy Spirit used that particular name because the Lord himself has a lot of names.

[Derek Gilbert]

Right. The Hebrew text says Yahweh. So that's why we're using it, just to remind us God is a person,

[Sharon Gilbert]

then he is speaking.

[Derek Gilbert]

And the name, the word God is sort of impersonal and can also, with a small G, refer to something other than Yahweh.

[Sharon Gilbert]

Yeah. Thus says Yahweh. Yahweh for three transgressions of Moab and for four, I will not revoke the punishment. The alternate translation there is I will not turn it back. I'm not going to change my mind. Because he burned to lime the bones

[Guest or Panelist]

of the king of Edom.

[Sharon Gilbert]

Now isn't that interesting?

[Derek Gilbert]

Now what's interesting here is that. There are scholars who see in this a reference to human sacrifice in Moab. Because the. The text reads because he burned the bones of the king of Edom to lime. Naphtali Tur Sinai, who was the founder of the. I'm going to forget the name of the institute. Exactly. But it was the Institute of Hebrew Language. He was the first president of it in 1952 as the the new state of Israel wanted to preserve the language that was nearly dead. Ter Sinai would revocalize the last three words to read. Molech, Adam, La Sad. The bones of a human sacrifice out of violence. And W.F. albright, William F. Albright, who's a very renowned scholar the Hebrew and Ancient Ancient Near Eastern Archaeology revised Tir Sinai's final word to la said meaning to a demon. In other words, he burned the bones of the king of Edom to a demon. But. And I got all of this from the book the Cult of Molech by a scholar named George Hyder.

[Sharon Gilbert]

Oh yeah.

[Derek Gilbert]

Whose book was a big resource for the second coming of Saturn because again, Molech, Milcom, Shemyaza, the leader of the Watchers or the sons of God in Genesis 6, all the same entity. Kronos, Saturn, Enlil El of the Canaanites. Haider concludes that what Tursinai and albeit propose, while plausible, actually raises more linguistic problems than they solve. But it is interesting that this phrase he burned to lime the bones of the king of Edom. The net Bible translators add this study note the Moabites apparently desecrated the tomb of a king of Edom and burned his bones into lime, which they then used as plaster. But the Very fact that he burned the bones is a desecration. And that's what God is condemning the king of Moab for. Regardless of whether they were doing it as an act of human sacrifice, it was a desecration.

[Sharon Gilbert]

Yeah, well, the Lord didn't like it.

[Derek Gilbert]

Clearly not.

[Sharon Gilbert]

So whatever their intent was, Lord didn't like it. So, verse two. So I will send a fire upon Moab and it will destroy the strongholds of Kiriot or Kiriot. And Moab shall die amid uproar and shout. And amid shouting with the sound of the trumpet.

[Guest or Panelist]

It's a kind of warfare trumpet.

[Sharon Gilbert]

I will cut off the ruler from its midst and will kill all its

[Guest or Panelist]

princes with him, says Yahweh.

[Sharon Gilbert]

That's pretty strong language.

[Guest or Panelist]

Verse 4.

[Sharon Gilbert]

Thus says Yahweh for three transgressions of Judah, and for four, I will not revoke the punishment because they have rejected the law of Yahweh and have not kept his statutes.

[Guest or Panelist]

But their lies have led them astray, those after which their fathers walked.

[Sharon Gilbert]

So I will send a fire upon Judah and it shall devour the strongholds of Jerusalem.

[Guest or Panelist]

Now, before we get to the judgment on Israel, which is the next section,

[Sharon Gilbert]

I want to just, I want to

[Guest or Panelist]

very briefly with you discuss something that our listeners may be thinking as you're listening. Transgressions of Judah, punishment, blah, blah, blah. There is a, an unconditional covenant with

[Sharon Gilbert]

the people of Israel that the Lord will fulfill in the last days. Doesn't matter what they do, doesn't matter

[Guest or Panelist]

what punishment they get in the meantime.

[Derek Gilbert]

Right.

[Guest or Panelist]

He will eventually return to that covenant and keep it. In other words, the Jewish people

[Sharon Gilbert]

will

[Guest or Panelist]

be the promises that the Lord has kept to them. He is going to fulfill them regardless of what they've done.

[Derek Gilbert]

Yeah, they, they will undergo chastisement. And you could make a really good

[Guest or Panelist]

case that gentiles also undergo chastisement.

[Derek Gilbert]

Yeah, but the, the fact that they were scattered amongst the nations for more than 1800 years before regathering in the state of Israel in 1948 was chastisement. There's nothing in scripture that says the prophecies of Israel's restoration to the land would only happen after they accept Jesus.

[Sharon Gilbert]

Exactly.

[Derek Gilbert]

I mean, that seems to be one of the obstacle or the objections from Christians who say that the modern state of Israel can't be Israel because they're still apostate. They. Because they rejected Jesus.

[Sharon Gilbert]

Yes. But there's, there's a wonderful promise.

[Derek Gilbert]

Yeah.

[Sharon Gilbert]

They will look upon him whom they have pierced, and they will mourn for Him.

[Derek Gilbert]

Yeah, that's Zechariah 12, verse 10, if I remember correctly. But it is clear that in. In Romans chapter 11, when you read that whole chapter, I don't see. See how you read that chapter and come away with, yes, but there is no but verse 28 in Romans 11. As regards the Gospel, they are enemies for your sake. But as regards election, they are beloved for the sake of their forefathers, for the gifts and the calling of God are irrevocable. God, in the beginning, Paul writes at the very beginning of Romans 11, I ask then, has God rejected his people? Because again, Christians objecting to modern state of Israel say, well, they rejected Jesus. So God has rejected them. No, Paul, 20 years after the resurrection, I asked, and has God rejected his people? By no means. For I myself am an Israelite, a descendant of Abraham, a member of the tribe of Benjamin. God has not rejected his people whom he foreknew. Now, there are those who will say, well, yes, but we are now God's people.

[Sharon Gilbert]

There's no scripture that actually says that.

[Derek Gilbert]

Well, there are some imply that, that we are descendants of Abraham by faith. But Paul makes it clear in Romans 11, where he writes, now I'm speaking to you Gentiles. So he is drawing a distinction between Gentile believers and Israelite believers, of which he was one. So, yeah, the calling and the gifts are irrevocable.

[Sharon Gilbert]

Yep.

[Guest or Panelist]

And we also get promised in scripture that there would be a ceiling that takes place before all of these terrible things, possibly in the second half of the tribulation period, but definitely before the Lord sends down all of these angels and lets loose the ones that are now in Tartarus seal my people. And it's 12,000 from the tribe of. 12,000 from the tribe of. 144,000 total, 12 tribes. Showing that these tribes still exist and that they are going to be given the seal of the Holy Spirit and they're going to become 144,000 Pauls.

[Derek Gilbert]

Right, right. And we, Sharon and me, and perhaps you as well, are not descendants of Jacob. We are not. We are not Semites. We are. We are Japhethites.

[Sharon Gilbert]

Yeah, well, I'm Melungian, so who knows?

[Derek Gilbert]

Yeah, you might have a little in there.

[Sharon Gilbert]

Yeah, I know Melungian. Essentially, you know, like. Okay, Heinz, 57. Okay. Verse 6, thus says Yahweh for three transgressions of Israel, and for four, I will not revoke the punishment because they

[Guest or Panelist]

sell the righteous for silver and the needy for a pair of sandals.

[Sharon Gilbert]

It's talking about this Disparity between the

[Derek Gilbert]

poor and the wealthy.

[Sharon Gilbert]

And the wealthy. Those who trample the head of the poor into the dust of the earth and turn aside the way of the afflicted. A man and his father go into the same girl. My holy name is profane.

[Derek Gilbert]

Go in. By the way is.

[Sharon Gilbert]

Yeah, that's a euphemism.

[Derek Gilbert]

Yeah, that's a euphemism.

[Sharon Gilbert]

So that my holy name is profaned. Is it pretty much the same?

[Derek Gilbert]

Yes, it is.

[Sharon Gilbert]

They lay themselves down beside every altar

[Guest or Panelist]

on garments taken in pledge.

[Sharon Gilbert]

And in the house of their God, they drink the wine of those who have been fined.

[Derek Gilbert]

Drink wine from extortion. In the house of their God.

[Sharon Gilbert]

Yeah. Yet it was I who destroyed the

[Guest or Panelist]

Amorite before them, whose height was like the height of the cedars and who was as strong as the oaks.

[Derek Gilbert]

Incidentally, I've seen this verse used to say that. See, the amorites were, like, 30ft tall. No, this is poetic language.

[Guest or Panelist]

Yeah. I destroyed his fruit above and his roots beneath.

[Sharon Gilbert]

Also, it was I, by the way,

[Guest or Panelist]

the Amorites weren't trees.

[Sharon Gilbert]

Again, poetic language.

[Derek Gilbert]

Yeah.

[Guest or Panelist]

Also, it was I who brought you out of the land of Egypt and led you 40 years in the wilderness to possess the land of the Amorite. And I who raised up some of your sons for profits and some of your young men for Nazirites. Is it not? Indeed so, O people of Israel, declares Yahweh. But you made the Nazarites. This is not Nazar rights. This is Nazir. Nazi.

[Sharon Gilbert]

Different.

[Guest or Panelist]

This is a specific pledge.

[Derek Gilbert]

Right.

[Guest or Panelist]

Made from the time they're very young.

[Derek Gilbert]

Samson was supposed to be a Nazarite. Yeah, yeah.

[Guest or Panelist]

But you made the Nazirites drink wine and commanded the prophets, saying, you shall not prophesy. Behold, I will press you down in your place as a cart full of sheaves presses down. Flight shall perish from the swift, and the strong shall not retain his strength, nor shall the mighty save his life. He who handles the bow shall not stand. And he who is swift of foot shall not save himself, nor shall he who rides the horse save his life. And he who is stout of heart among the mighty shall flee away naked in that day.

[Sharon Gilbert]

Excuse me, declares Yahweh. Having a horse at all meant you had some money and probably were a soldier of some kind or a member of the elite class, or both.

[Derek Gilbert]

Well, horses were typically used for soldiers in the ancient Near East. Donkeys were what the elites rode, which is why Jesus, when he came into Jerusalem on the back of a donkey colt, it was understood that. Here comes the king yes.

[Sharon Gilbert]

But the other tribes would come in

[Guest or Panelist]

as a king on a horse because they were cup.

[Sharon Gilbert]

Yeah, that's one.

[Guest or Panelist]

Yeah. Oh, conquering guys. They wouldn't come in on donkeys and say ham.

[Derek Gilbert]

Soldiers would come in and horses.

[Guest or Panelist]

Yes, that's my point. The leader of those soldiers would probably be riding a horse. And I think it's one reason that in the 19. Gosh, when was it?

[Derek Gilbert]

18.

[Sharon Gilbert]

No, 18.

[Guest or Panelist]

Yeah. 1890s. Wilhelm II.

[Derek Gilbert]

Yeah.

[Guest or Panelist]

Rode into Jerusalem on a white horse.

[Derek Gilbert]

Yeah. Saying that he was. He was the conqueror. Which was interesting because at the time it was still part of the Ottoman Empire. And Vilhelm II was not a Turk.

[Guest or Panelist]

He was not. But he was a big fan of the Ottomans. He liked what they did.

[Derek Gilbert]

But 1918, when General Allenby came into Jerusalem after conquering the Ottomans in World War I, he walked into Jerusalem, showing that he was neither there as a conqueror nor as a king. Because in fact, there's a letter that's been preserved from an Amorite kingdom called Mari, which was on the Euphrates river near the modern day border between Syria and Iraq, from an advisor saying that my lord should honor his kingship by riding a donkey. Because again, horses were what the commoners, the soldiers, the warriors rode. The king rode a donkey. Why? Because donkeys were the equivalent of camels for the Amorites. They were the animals that you use to transport goods across the desert.

[Guest or Panelist]

Yep. I think you and I are both right on that. Because historically there have been kings conquering princes, a conquering king, prince coming to town where on their nice, you know, horse.

[Derek Gilbert]

Yeah. Amos, verse chapter three. I think we got time to chapter three here. Which means we'll have to push off four and five.

[Sharon Gilbert]

Well, kind of thought that was going to happen.

[Derek Gilbert]

Hear this word that Yahweh has spoken against you, O people of Israel. And notice again, he's spending a lot more time condemning the northern kingdom of Israel than Judah or any of the neighbors of Israel and Judah against a whole family that I brought up out of the land of Egypt. You only have I known of all the families of the earth. Therefore, I will punish you for all your iniquities. Do two walk together unless they have agreed to meet? Does a lion roar in the forest when he has no prey? Does a young lion cry out from his den if he has taken nothing? Does a bird fall in a stone snare on the earth when there is no trap for it? Does a snare spring from the ground, spring up from the ground when it has taken nothing? These are a bunch of rhetorical questions. And obviously, if you figured out already that the answer to these questions is no, no, no, no. Is a trumpet blown in a city and the people are not afraid. Disaster. Does disaster come to a city? Unless Yahweh has done. Done it. For the Lord Yahweh does nothing without revealing his secret to his servants, the prophets.

[Sharon Gilbert]

That's important. Yes, that's really important. Because, of course, the prophets were often ignored.

[Derek Gilbert]

Yes.

[Sharon Gilbert]

Oh, we don't. Like what? That will never happen. Yeah. So if we get rid of him, then it'll be fine.

[Derek Gilbert]

The lion has roared.

[Sharon Gilbert]

Oh, I know it. I love that. This actually puts it in the. In the. It says, a lion shall roar.

[Derek Gilbert]

The Lord Yahweh has spoken. Who can but prophesy. Proclaim to the strongholds in Ashdod and to the strongholds in the land of Egypt and say, assemble yourselves on the mountains of Samaria and see the great tumults within her and the oppressed in her midst.

[Guest or Panelist]

This says, proclaim it to the regions among the Assyrians. Yeah, verse nine in the Septuagint.

[Derek Gilbert]

Huh. Interesting. Assyria instead of Samaria.

[Guest or Panelist]

Well, no, no, no. Proclaim it to the regions among the Assyrians and to the regions of Egypt and say, gather yourselves to the mountain of Samaria.

[Derek Gilbert]

Okay. Interesting. They may have changed it because by the time of the Septuagint. Oh, wait, no. Why would they.

[Guest or Panelist]

Yeah, I know. Why did the Masoretes change it to Ashdod?

[Derek Gilbert]

Because Assyria was basically destroyed and ceased to be a factor in ancient near east after being defeated by Nebuchadnezzar's father, Nabopolassar in 605 BC so after that, Assyria was basically. Basically done. So by the time of the Masoretes, Ashdod may have made more sense. Say, assemble yourselves in the mountains of Samaria and see the great tumults within her and the oppressed in her midst. They do not know how to do right, declares Yahweh, those who store up violence and robbery in their strongholds. Therefore, thus says the Lord Yahweh, an adversary shall surround you. I wonder, does that word say.

[Sharon Gilbert]

It says, o tire.

[Derek Gilbert]

Okay.

[Sharon Gilbert]

Do you have tire in that verse?

[Derek Gilbert]

Nope.

[Sharon Gilbert]

Oh, that's interesting. This says, o tire, thy land shall be made desolate.

[Derek Gilbert]

Nope, nowhere in there.

[Sharon Gilbert]

Odd, because we've got Assyria and Tyre in the Septuagint version of these verses. Why did the man.

[Derek Gilbert]

Was that verse 11 where it mentions tyre?

[Sharon Gilbert]

It's verse 11.

[Derek Gilbert]

Therefore, thus says the Lord Yahweh, an adversary shall surround the land and bring down your defenses from you, and your strongholds shall be plundered. Verse 12. Thus says Yahweh, as the shepherd rescues from the mouth of the lion two legs or a piece of an ear, so shall the people of Israel who dwell in Samaria be rescued. Rescued with the corner of a couch and part of a bed. In other words, you're not going to rescue the whole. The whole group.

[Guest or Panelist]

Yeah.

[Sharon Gilbert]

That's very picturesque. This says, rescues from the mouth of

[Guest or Panelist]

a lion two legs or a piece of an ear. Yeah.

[Sharon Gilbert]

All right.

[Derek Gilbert]

Faith Life Study Bible.

[Guest or Panelist]

Just a remnant.

[Derek Gilbert]

Yeah, just a remnant. But adds this. If a shepherd could provide. Provide proof that an animal was destroyed by a predator, he would be absolved of responsibility for the loss and not be suspected of theft.

[Sharon Gilbert]

Oh, that's.

[Derek Gilbert]

Look, here's a leg. Here's an ear. See the lion. Got it. It's. I didn't steal it to try to start my own flock.

[Sharon Gilbert]

That's interesting.

[Guest or Panelist]

Huh?

[Derek Gilbert]

But it is noted in the ESP translation that the. The metaphor here is difficult. And they're trying to. Trying to reconstruct the metaphor, but I think the meaning is there. As you say, only a remnant. Will be. Will be saved. Hear and testify against the house of Jacob, declares the Lord Yahweh, the God of hosts, the God of armies.

[Guest or Panelist]

Well, this says, hear, O ye priests.

[Derek Gilbert]

Okay. That on the day I punish Israel for his transgressions, I will punish the altars of Bethel. Golden calf. And the horns of the altar shall be cut off and fall to the ground. I will strike the winter house along with the summer house. Again, metaphor for the wealthy. Yeah, you got your summer home there in New York and your winter home in Florida.

[Guest or Panelist]

Well, this says, I will crush and smite the turreted house. That's a wealthy person's house.

[Derek Gilbert]

Yes. And the houses of ivory shall perish. That's a reference to the. The house built by Ahab in Samaria, which had a lot of ivory in it. And the great houses shall come to an end, or many houses shall come to an end, declares Yahweh. In other words, family lines, bloodlines will be cut off. And we're at about 54 minutes here, so.

[Sharon Gilbert]

Yeah, probably need to go. Especially since we.

[Derek Gilbert]

Chapter 4. Looks. Looks relatively long. And it also gets into some stuff we'll have to dig deeper into. Hear this word, you cows of Bashan.

[Sharon Gilbert]

Oh, I know.

[Derek Gilbert]

It's not dealing with livestock.

[Sharon Gilbert]

No, it's not. So many things to talk about.

[Derek Gilbert]

Well, once again, I will have to update the calendar and a reading schedule. So we'll, we'll pick up with Amos Chapter 4 Next time before we do

[Sharon Gilbert]

the old people, the old geezer report and those of you who stick around for it, we appreciate that because some of you do ask, you know, how's your health, how do I pray for you? This kind of thing. But we just want to remind you of a couple of things and one of them is that we're going to be in Blue Eye, Missouri on Tuesdays. So if you live in the area, we welcome you to come and watch the recordings. We're going to record a couple of shows with Jim and Lori and who knows else is going to be on the panel. We never know until we get down there. But we are excited that Jim is back.

[Derek Gilbert]

Yeah, Jim Baker is physically a little frail, but his mental acuity is still there, which is really remarkable since he's had two major strokes and a number of TIAs.

[Sharon Gilbert]

I know. So we're going to be there on Tuesday and again, that's the 17th. 17th. Yes, 17th, 17th of March. So if you're listening to this in

[Derek Gilbert]

the future, you can disregard it.

[Sharon Gilbert]

Disregard that also. If you're listening in the future, you may not. You can just disregard this. But in July of 2026, we're going to be in Ohio, near Dayton, north central west Dayton area, Brookville, Ohio.

[Derek Gilbert]

Right. That's the go there for conference.

[Sharon Gilbert]

Oh, yeah.

[Derek Gilbert]

Dr. Mike Spalding's annual conference. I think this will be our fifth or our sixth one is that we're

[Sharon Gilbert]

just so excited to be back, to be asked back.

[Derek Gilbert]

Yeah. And this year, I mean, every year Mike puts together a really powerful lineup of speakers. But this time not only powerful, but I think very timely because I know that all of the speakers speakers this time are very much pro Israel and understand that while the modern nation state of Israel is flawed and sinful like 100% of the human governments on earth, that God is not done with the Jews. He has not rejected his people whom he foreknew. As Paul wrote 2000 years ago, Carl Gallups will be one of the specialists speakers. And you know, of course we love Carl and every time we get a chance to see him, it's just always a joyful reunion. John Haller, who is a prophecy scholar and he brings the mind of an attorney, which is his profession, he recently retired, but so now he can do it full time to digging into the news of the week. His annual his weekly prophecy update from the Fellowship Bible Chapel in Columbus, Ohio is put up on YouTube, usually by Sunday afternoon, it's well worth watching. It's usually 30 to 60 minutes, depending on the news of the week. And John does a really good job of bringing out all of the news items with prophetic implications. I think he's probably the best one out there doing it, to be quite honest. And we were really honored last year. He came to the event because he saw that we were going to be there, and he watched my presentation on the secret history of Israel or the secret history of modern Israel, and he gave me a shout out on the next. His next prophecy update.

[Guest or Panelist]

Yeah, I know. We were like, squeeze.

[Sharon Gilbert]

Yeah.

[Derek Gilbert]

So fanboy moment. John Heller's been a guest on my podcast a couple times in the past, but not for way too long. Carl Tykrib will be there. We are good friends with Carl and Leanne Tykrib. Carl coming down from Manitoba, he is one of the preeminent scholars of how the globalists are trying to set up their own global religion. His book, Game of Gods, is really deeply researched and it's really an important book for you to have. It is Dr. Greg Reed.

[Sharon Gilbert]

Oh, yeah, he is. I'll tell you what, if you are someone who struggles with spiritual warfare, if you or someone you love has been under attack, Greg Reed is. Is I. And I think Vicki Joe is going to be there too, isn't she?

[Derek Gilbert]

I don't see.

[Sharon Gilbert]

Okay, then cut that part out. But Greg Reed, this is what he does. For decades, he has looked after those who are under the oppression of the fallen realm.

[Derek Gilbert]

Right. Give you an idea how important Greg's testimony is on my podcast, A View from the bunker. I've had three episodes during these 16 years I've been producing it. Three episodes have been yanked offline by the powers that be at a certain video sharing platform.

[Sharon Gilbert]

Yeah.

[Derek Gilbert]

And because Greg was talking about satanic ritual abuse.

[Sharon Gilbert]

Oh, now you said it. Oh, now we're going to get pulled. No, no, he does talk about. This is his wheelhouse.

[Derek Gilbert]

Yeah. So this is something where if you struggle with this, you really need to be there for this. And of course, if you can't be there, streaming video will be available. So that is an option. Tom Hughes, Olivier Melnick, both Bible prophecy experts. In fact, we bumped into Tom Hughes in Israel unexpectedly.

[Guest or Panelist]

I know.

[Sharon Gilbert]

We get to Argaman and, hey, that's Tom Hughes.

[Derek Gilbert]

We haven't seen you since the Prophecy Watchers conference. So, you know, and so we had a chance to talk with him for a bit and we'll see him again in Ohio. The dates, July 24th and 25th of 2026. [e-mail] where you can sign up for either in person tickets or joining us at, you know, virtually via. Via streaming video.

[Sharon Gilbert]

Yeah, you can fly into Dayton. You can rent a car if you live close enough to drive in. There are, you know, there's an official hotel. There are other hotels, I would say get your room in quickly, though.

[Derek Gilbert]

Yeah. And the. The Harvest Revival Center. Very comfortable place to sit and watch a conference. And so, yeah, they. And the media team at the church there does a great job. So the streaming video is very high production value. So if you're watching at home, you'll be able to see and hear everything beautifully. They do a great job. And then two weeks later, we'll be here in Springfield August 7th through 9th for the remnant rising 2.0 conference. That'll be at the Oasis Hotel and Convention center. And.

[Sharon Gilbert]

Beautiful. It's a campus.

[Derek Gilbert]

Yes, it is.

[Sharon Gilbert]

You need a little map to see where to go.

[Derek Gilbert]

It's. But it's a great facility for something like this. The hotel rooms are very comfortable. Great restaurant in the hotel, plus plenty of other restaurants on that side of Springfield, Missouri. And the speaker list here, it's like, again, we're just honored to be a part of this group. Joe Horn from Skywatch TV will be there. Our good friend Vicki Joy Anderson will be there for this one.

[Sharon Gilbert]

Excellent.

[Derek Gilbert]

Our good friend Kenny C. Will be there. We love Kenny.

[Sharon Gilbert]

We love Kenny C. Look, he's the reason to go in the first place.

[Derek Gilbert]

Absolutely. Tony Merkel, the host of the Confessionals podcast, will be speaking at this event. Jamie Walden.

[Sharon Gilbert]

Oh, my goodness. More words per minute than any other speaker I know.

[Derek Gilbert]

Yes. A retired U.S. marine, and he brings that sort of passion and energy to his presentations. Mr. AJ squared away, as he called himself. John Pounders. Oh, yeah, good. Dave Hodges, host of the Con. The Common Sense Show.

[Sharon Gilbert]

We've not seen him. Oh, good grief. This is quite a lineup.

[Derek Gilbert]

Yeah. Tracy Tennant, who came out of the Church of Latter Day Saints.

[Guest or Panelist]

I know.

[Sharon Gilbert]

In fact, her book is now available on Kindle.

[Derek Gilbert]

Okay. We've also got Larry Ragland, David Paxton.

[Sharon Gilbert]

Oh, you know, he's one of those

[Guest or Panelist]

people that when you first meet him, you think, well, this is a really

[Sharon Gilbert]

clever guy who has a great turn of.

[Derek Gilbert]

Great sense of humor.

[Guest or Panelist]

Great sense of humor. And then you realize there are depths to this man.

[Derek Gilbert]

He is a very deep thinker. Patrick McCurdy. I didn't mention it when we talked about yesterday. Patrick was there at last year's conference, providing security. Oh, yeah. But he's got a ministry dealing with first responders, police, fire, who deal with some of the horrible things that. That those men and women have to see.

[Sharon Gilbert]

You know, I. I just. I really love that man.

[Guest or Panelist]

His heart is so gentle, and yet he's one of those guys that. Look, do you work out 10 times a day?

[Sharon Gilbert]

I think you do.

[Derek Gilbert]

And he reached out to us to. To. To me, texted me a few times since last fall's last summer's conference, just to ask how he was doing physically. Yeah.

[Guest or Panelist]

Because he lives in the area.

[Derek Gilbert]

Right.

[Guest or Panelist]

And he said, if you need anything, let me know. Like I said, very. His heart is way too big for his body.

[Sharon Gilbert]

It's wonderful.

[Derek Gilbert]

And then praise and worship. Gerard James and Sarah Weiss. You sang It Is well with My Soul.

[Guest or Panelist]

Oh.

[Sharon Gilbert]

Is Tom Horn's favorite song. And the conference last year was dedicated to.

[Derek Gilbert]

And I missed it because I was so physically exhausted, I couldn't get up in my bed. But Mike Kerr shared the video of that to YouTube later.

[Sharon Gilbert]

Aww.

[Derek Gilbert]

And. That song is powerful enough as it is, but the way you sang it, sweeter.

[Sharon Gilbert]

Anyway, it was a wonderful conference, and if you missed it, then you need to come this year. And if you came last year, then you know you need to come this year.

[Derek Gilbert]

Right. And this one will also have streaming video available so that if you can't be there for any reason, you can, you can join in and be part of it. Virtually this one, Even though it's Springfield, Missouri, and Springfield is a smaller community, about 150,000 people. Springfield Branson National Airport, very easy airport to get through. And the hotel, the Oasis Hotel and Convention center, has a shuttle, so you don't need to rent a car. But surprisingly, there's a lot to do in and around Springfield. I mean, it's 45 minutes north of Branson.

[Sharon Gilbert]

It's got a Buc EE's.

[Derek Gilbert]

It's got a new Buc EE's, which

[Sharon Gilbert]

is why Kenny C. Is coming, because he's got a. Yes.

[Derek Gilbert]

He drives down Interstate 44 just so he can stop at the Buc EE's 10 minutes away from the exit. And there's also wonderful, wonderful. If you got kids, consider bringing them and taking them to the World of Wonder Aquarium, which has been voted by USA Today best in the country. Better than the Shedd Aquarium in Chicago. Better than anything you'll find in.

[Sharon Gilbert]

In Florida.

[Derek Gilbert]

In Florida it is. And I've been there a couple of times. It's not. It's not cheap, but it's Worth it. It is amazing. You could swim with sharks if you choose. The kids can go downstairs. They've got a tank that's filled with rays now. They take the stingers off and you can touch them. They feel like soft kid leather. It's amazing. So also, and right next door is the. Is the best row number one. Number one. So, men, you want to make a pilgrimage to Bass Pro number one. There you go. Anyway, information and tickets are available [e-mail]

[Guest or Panelist]

Also, by the way, we are still going to Israel in October. Now if it looks like we need to reschedule, we will because we've had to do that before. And the likely reschedule date will be spring of 2027. But it's our prayer that we'll get to go. Derek is.

[Sharon Gilbert]

Yep.

[Guest or Panelist]

He's still having issues with his balance, with the ability to walk. He still has drop foot. He has cidp. Those things are getting treated. The Lord is providing for that and it could be that Derek will be much, much better by October. But the Lipkins have said we'll work it out. Yeah, we'll find a way to get you there and to keep you safe.

[Derek Gilbert]

Foldable, transportable wheelchair.

[Sharon Gilbert]

Want a hover chair?

[Derek Gilbert]

Yes. Yeah. The. We can use this to set, by the way, the dates are October 11th through the 23rd of October.

[Sharon Gilbert]

And Gilbert House.org travel. You can get all the info there.

[Derek Gilbert]

As, as you know, we missed a few weeks because of the, the, the pneumonia that I had in February. But during that time in the hospital I was able to receive a treatment called intravenous immunoglobulin because the hospital bed that opened up after Sharon had taken me to the emergency room along with our good friend Lisa.

[Sharon Gilbert]

This is the Lord working through these circumstances.

[Derek Gilbert]

They got me into the neurology wing and the staff neurologist looked at the chart and said, well, he's got cidp, but we don't see that he's received any IVIG yet. So let's get that going. Now my health insurance company has been fighting this treatment because the cost of the immunoglobulin is really crazy expensive. I mean, we're talking you could buy a really nice SUV for one course of treatment. But because this was part of an emergency hospitalization, they had no choice. Yeah. So we didn't have to pay the $40,000 it would have cost without insurance. And now they're resisting a little bit on the second course of treatment because this is something that normally starts seeing results after about the Second, second treatment. And then from there they've got to repeat the five day infusion over the, you know, every three to six weeks.

[Sharon Gilbert]

Yeah.

[Derek Gilbert]

But you start seeing rapid improvement after that second course of treatment. And you're going to have a myelogram, a new nerve conduction test, which is already scheduled for two weeks away. So hopefully after that then we can get these treatments. And then from there, 40% of the people who get these treatments show market improvements. So we're praying that that's the case. And if that is the case, then of course it'll make getting around in Israel much easier. It'll also make typing a lot easier because this is affecting my fingers now. And so my half the time I'm using speech to text when I have to communicate via email or whatever. So anyway, that's the. Oh, also, I had a, had a stress test this past week and that was ordered because while I was in for the pneumonia, had a couple of episodes where my heart suddenly just doubled. Its rate went from like 75 to 150 and nurses came rushing in. Are you having chest pains? Are you?

[Guest or Panelist]

Yeah. It was more than just the change in your heartbeat speed, but also you were showing what's called supraventricular tachycardia. Tachycardia means your heart's beating too fast. The ventricles are the lower parts of the heart, and the supra means it's just above those. So it could be that the ventricular node which controls those contractions is off kilter. And that's why your next appointment couldn't be canceled. In my opinion.

[Derek Gilbert]

Yes. I've got a cardiologist appointment now, so I've adding specialists to my little punch card here.

[Sharon Gilbert]

I know soon you'll have all of them.

[Derek Gilbert]

That's right, collect them all. Get a free surgery.

[Sharon Gilbert]

But here's the thing. Oh, well, the Lord is allowing all these things because he works all of them together for good.

[Derek Gilbert]

Yeah.

[Sharon Gilbert]

And we need to remember that. And right now, because of Derek's health issues and our need to be closer to the specialist doctors who are punching his card, but also to the hospital just in case. We live out in the middle of nowhere and we love it. It's beautiful out here. We truly do love this home. We've loved the barn that you guys helped us to improve and that build better barn, better project you guys stepped right up and we were able to do. We've only used it for a few years. We had other gifts that made this home more livable and we Hate selling it. But right now we have put it on the market so we can find a place that is better for our old people situations.

[Derek Gilbert]

Exactly. Less property to maintain because right now

[Sharon Gilbert]

I'm doing all of it.

[Derek Gilbert]

Yeah. Because my physical condition, my balance, I just cannot do anything. Yard work is beyond me and I

[Sharon Gilbert]

have weenie arms even.

[Derek Gilbert]

But you've been managing to do quite a bit. Getting up on a ladder to change out like the hallway light bulb over there. I could not do that.

[Sharon Gilbert]

Yeah, I can do that. I don't like getting up on the really tall ladder in the barn. So we have.

[Derek Gilbert]

Right. Changing the light bulb up there, for example, would be beyond me. So we, we can hire things done. But again, living in the middle of no place, finding people around who can come to you and do those things is also difficult.

[Guest or Panelist]

And an ambulance is probably 20 minutes away at best. At best it could be half an hour or more. Because people, people who respond, these first responders, they don't live inside the ambulance.

[Derek Gilbert]

No, no, it is. So anyway, that, that is the thing we're looking at just being closer to services, mainly with also an eye to something that is a lower maintenance type dwelling. Yep.

[Guest or Panelist]

You'll find our place on Realtor. And if you have always wanted to move to southwest Missouri and live out

[Sharon Gilbert]

in the country and you're up for

[Guest or Panelist]

a little bit of property. Yeah, yeah. Come on out.

[Derek Gilbert]

We've got great neighbors here. Neighbor up the road has got a small herd of cattle and he takes them to slaughter a couple times a year. We got really, really clean beef from him. Oh, I know for years a lot of advantages to living out in the country, but sadly, access to health care, especially specialists, is not one of them.

[Sharon Gilbert]

Yeah, yeah.

[Derek Gilbert]

All of the specialists that we see are in the middle of Springfield and it's an hour to get there. So if we can move, even cut that distance in half, that would be a big plus.

[Sharon Gilbert]

So if the Lord allows the house to sell, then that's, you know, in a way, Derek and I are doing this because we feel. Feel like this is the right thing to do. But you know, the Lord might come along and say, no, I'm going to totally heal you. Take the house off the market.

[Derek Gilbert]

Yep.

[Sharon Gilbert]

Whatever happens is fine with me. I just want to follow the shepherd.

[Derek Gilbert]

Well, we got some questions.

[Sharon Gilbert]

Oh, yeah? Do we have answers?

[Derek Gilbert]

Well, we shall see. Let me see here. Rebecca asks a very important question here. A very, and I think one that may resonate with, with a lot of folks as we have found that perhaps due to Nutrition due to the type of clothing we were, whatever. That fertility rates in the Western world have declined.

[Guest or Panelist]

They're terrible.

[Derek Gilbert]

Yeah. In fact, below replacement level now in most of the northern hemisphere. Rebecca asks, will we be able to have children in our new glorified bodies in heaven? Are our earthly bodies our only chance to have children?

[Guest or Panelist]

In the Bible, we're told that when we are in our glorified bodies, that we will be like the angels and that we don't marry or give in marriage.

[Derek Gilbert]

Right.

[Guest or Panelist]

So if you're not marrying or giving in marriage, you don't have kids.

[Derek Gilbert]

Yeah. And this is from Matthew, chapter 22. And then parallel chapters in Mark and Luke where Jesus was confronted by Sadducees who were asking about the resurrection, which

[Sharon Gilbert]

was hilarious, because they were sad that they didn't believe in the resurrection bodily.

[Derek Gilbert]

Why they're sad. You see verse 30 of Matthew 22:29. And this is where they threw a trick question about a woman who married a guy. He died. Married his brother. According to the law. He died and so on until she gets through seven in the resurrection. Therefore, of the seven, whose wife will she be? For they all had her. And they were trying to trick Jesus into saying, well, hanahamana, Hamanahamana. But Jesus answered them, you are wrong because you do not know, because you know neither the scriptures nor the power of God. For in the resurrection, they neither marry nor are given in marriage, but are like angels in heaven.

[Sharon Gilbert]

That doesn't mean we get wings.

[Derek Gilbert]

No.

[Sharon Gilbert]

It just means that there is no longer a reason for. For having children.

[Derek Gilbert]

Right. You don't need to procreate when you're in an incorruptible, indestructible, immortal body.

[Sharon Gilbert]

Yep.

[Derek Gilbert]

Now, we don't know Rebecca's situation. And like I said, this may be a question that resonates with people who have been unable to have children.

[Sharon Gilbert]

That's a yearning of the heart. I understand it. I have never been able to have a child of my own. I understand. Understand that the Lord gave me a beautiful stepdaughter. When Derek and I got married, Nicole was seven. And I got to be the primary custodial mom as the stepmom. And so I got to experience that. But it's different. I. I believe when you actually give birth to the child, you nourish this child. And I. It's something I haven't been able to experience.

[Derek Gilbert]

But I suspect. And this is just. There's nothing in the Bible that. That backs this up. I suspect when we get to that next kingdom, we will Find there are children there whose lives were cut short for whatever reason. Perhaps an accident, perhaps. Perhaps a termination before they were born.

[Sharon Gilbert]

Yeah.

[Derek Gilbert]

And children who the Lord, in his. Omniscient, omnipotent judgment and righteousness, will not condemn them before they were old enough to know right from wrong. And whose parents may not be there for whatever reason. And there may be children there who are in need of parenting.

[Sharon Gilbert]

Possibly.

[Derek Gilbert]

And again, I'm just guessing at this. There's nothing in the Bible that says this.

[Sharon Gilbert]

I'll be honest.

[Guest or Panelist]

I have always pictured them not as children, but as the perfect age.

[Derek Gilbert]

What they. What they would have.

[Sharon Gilbert]

What they would have become.

[Derek Gilbert]

So that's possible, too.

[Guest or Panelist]

Don't know. But I think that when we get there that whatever has been in our past that was painful will be forgotten because all tears are wiped away. Imagine the Lord himself coming over and drying your tears.

[Derek Gilbert]

Yeah. So, Rebecca, and that's a. That's a powerful question with a lot of implications, and thank you for that. That's a deep question. And again, this is one we can only speculate on the answer. We do know that again, in the resurrection, when we're in our glorified bodies, incorruptible, we will neither marry nor give in marriage, because we will be like the angels in heaven. And that's often used as a proof text to try to misinterpret Genesis 6. You know, the angels don't procreate. Well, yeah, the angels, when they came to earth, did the sons of God in Genesis 6. Angels in heaven do not, and neither will we. One other. And this is not really a question, but I thought this was really touching. Molly sent a note. I know I don't comment much on here. And again, these comments or questions are coming through our app where you can ask questions of us in the community section there. I do have a request. This is in the prayer request section of the app. I'm a keeper at our local zoo sanctuary. And our littlest bobcat named Cleo had some polyps removed about a week and a half ago. The clinic sent a biopsy of one down to the lab and it tested positive for cancer. Would you all send say a prayer for little Cleo, please?

[Sharon Gilbert]

Absolutely.

[Derek Gilbert]

I'd greatly appreciate it.

[Sharon Gilbert]

Absolutely.

[Derek Gilbert]

And I would add to your request, Molly, a prayer for our daughter Nicole's little cat, Booker. Booker and Piper. She's got two. They were brother and sister. She took them both in. They're 11 years old. And Booker had a biopsy done on a tumor that was found in his Stomach. And it has also tested positive for cancer. So, I mean, they've got him on chemo. Surgery would be an option, but it's really expensive. And once they did that, he would still have to be on the chemo.

[Sharon Gilbert]

I know. And there's no guarantee as to how long. So Nicole is. She's really stressing over this. So we do understand. And it gets back to Rebecca's question. Yeah, we all women, but all of just human beings. We are designed by the Lord to have compassion for children and for creation, for animals. And I think taking an animal in, especially if you can't have children. Yeah, you can adopt a child. Yes. But not everybody's in a position to do that either. But having dogs, cats, let's face it, they become like our kids.

[Derek Gilbert]

They do. And it also echoes, I think, God's desire for family, which is why he created us and the angels.

[Sharon Gilbert]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Derek Gilbert]

God desires family, and that desire is reflected in our desire for family, which is why it is so horrific when we see those desires perverted and twisted by the fallen. The principalities and powers, the horrific stories of children who are prostituted by their parents for drugs, who are trafficked, and those who take advantage of them. I think this is why there's this ongoing simmering rage at. What was, you know, in those files about a certain financier that I won't name.

[Sharon Gilbert]

If you put all of your energy into that one thing. Look, that's just the tip of the iceberg. That sort of activity goes on worldwide.

[Derek Gilbert]

Yes.

[Sharon Gilbert]

And it goes back to what we read in Amos today. He was going after those who went. Who sawed women in half, for goodness sake. Women. Whose child. And they were going after women and children and everybody. And we see the same thing going on today, and most of it's done in total secret.

[Derek Gilbert]

Yeah, exactly. And those who commit those acts, we pray that they face judgment here on earth, but we know they've got judgment coming in the next world. Vengeance is mine, so saith the Lord, I will repay absolutely.

[Sharon Gilbert]

And he also said, better a millstone be hung around your neck. And those things are big and heavy. Than you ever hurt a child, Then

[Derek Gilbert]

you cause one of these little ones to sin. Or, yes, suffer the little children to come unto me. Jesus said.

[Sharon Gilbert]

Yeah.

[Derek Gilbert]

And there's also the verse that says their angels are always before the face of God, interceding. Yeah. So.

[Sharon Gilbert]

And also perhaps if a child's angel is always standing, ready to be sent out.

[Derek Gilbert]

Yes. Woe unto those.

[Sharon Gilbert]

Yeah, yeah.

[Derek Gilbert]

So actually, Molly's and Rebecca's comments and questions this week related to this. And the older I get, it's like my dad, when he got past his mid-50s, he started, especially after his heart attack. He said he realized that holding in his mo, in his emotions was a dumb thing to do, especially when it came to letting people know how he felt. Of course, coming from that, you know, greatest generation, it was still tough, you know, because men were supposed to be men and stoic and holding it in and, you know, you know. But he let me know how he felt. So, yeah. Rebecca, Molly, thank you for those comments and questions. That's very timely. Let's close with some prayer. Father, You placed us here in this

[Guest or Panelist]

earth

[Derek Gilbert]

to take dominion of the world, which doesn't mean to dominate, but to caretake in your name. We are your image bearers, your imagers. We are your moral agents on this earth, or we are supposed to be. And we know that each day we fail, Lord, we fall short by thought, word and deed. As the apostle John wrote, if we say we have no sin, we deceive ourselves and the truth is not in us. But Lord, We look at the work of ministries like for the children, Royal Family kids and Whispering Ponies Ranch and others that are in this line of work, ministering to children who are broken, who are so guarded with their emotions because all they have known from the adults around them is abuse. And we know just from our own reactions, Lord, how this must grieve you to see that we whom you created to bring a family to you, tearing at one another, both adults on adults, but especially when it comes to these precious children. So, Father, we pray this day when we see an opportunity to support the work of a Whispering Ponies Ranch or something like it, Lord, whether through volunteering, financial support, or even just prayer, Lord, just put that in our hearts. And may we who are blessed to be parents, grandparents, aunts, uncles, may we give of our time to teach and to nurture and to protect those coming generations. As you have sacrificed for us to bring us back into your presence. On that day, Lord, we lift up that littlest bobcat, Cleo, Because, Lord, taking dominion in this world also means protecting those animals that you have created. We know that a sparrow does not fall, that you do not know it. And we pray that that little bobcat will recover and live a full and happy life at that sanctuary. Father, we pray for Nicole's cat, Booker, that the medicine that our daughter is struggling to afford will. Bring him relief and healing. And Lord, we pray for all those who are struggling with physical maladies this day. And ask, Father, for your healing, your comfort, and the peace that comes from knowing that these broken and failing physical forms are just temporary and that a day is coming, as Paul wrote, in the twinkling of an eye, where we we shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed until that day. Father, we ask you to bring us wisdom, discernment, the courage to speak boldly, but with gentleness and respect of the faith and the hope that we have in you. Thank you for your love for us, Father. May we reflect that love to the world around us. You are the light of the world, Father. And while the darkness rises, the light shall not be extinguished. May we do our part to reflect that light into the darkness around us and draw those in need of healing, of comfort, of peace and of love to the gospel of Jesus Christ. It's in your holy name we pray. Amen.

[Sharon Gilbert]

Amen. By the way, one last thing,

[Guest or Panelist]

and

[Sharon Gilbert]

that is if you are wondering or have wondered what happened to 5 and

[Guest or Panelist]

10, we talked about the on PID

[Sharon Gilbert]

radio yesterday, but Derek has retired from

[Guest or Panelist]

Skywatch TV just because it's something that has taken up the majority of every day for him for 10 years.

[Sharon Gilbert]

Over 10 years. 11 years.

[Guest or Panelist]

That's right, 11 years.

[Sharon Gilbert]

And because you now require more rest,

[Guest or Panelist]

you tire more easily. You just don't have those hours. So your. Your limited working time in the day is maybe six hours.

[Derek Gilbert]

Right.

[Sharon Gilbert]

And that was way more than you

[Guest or Panelist]

could do with 5 and 10 and still write, research and report.

[Derek Gilbert]

Yeah.

[Guest or Panelist]

So we will continue doing what we do, PID radio and Gilbert House Fellowship, and Derek will continue writing the books, and I'll get back to writing book nine of the Red Wing saga very soon. We've just had a lot of things

[Sharon Gilbert]

that have happened lately, but.

[Guest or Panelist]

But if you missed that announcement, that is why there's been no 5 and 10, right?

[Derek Gilbert]

Yeah. 5 and 10 was not just on hiatus. It is. It has reached the end of its run and it was simply just a. An acknowledgement of the limitations, my physical limitations. So, anyway, that is.

[Sharon Gilbert]

We still love Skywatch tv. We're still on the desk. Yeah. Yeah, exactly.

[Guest or Panelist]

They're.

[Sharon Gilbert]

They are family to us. They are just like the Bakers. They're family. And you guys are family.

[Derek Gilbert]

Yes.

[Sharon Gilbert]

So let's all get together and have

[Derek Gilbert]

a big family reunion here there in the air, as the saying goes.

[Sharon Gilbert]

Yeah.

[Derek Gilbert]

Tonight, a View from the Bunker returns. Brian Gawa has a new novel coming out about Daniel, the first of a trilogy about Daniel. The first one is called Daniel Exile in Babylon. Daniel is a very young man, in fact, teenager.

[Sharon Gilbert]

Yeah, he was very young when he was taken away.

[Derek Gilbert]

Right. So how does he deal with the. The temptations and also the indoctrination into the ways of the Chaldeans in Babylon? Yeah, that is the subject of. And of course, Brian, because he is a. As are we, a follower of the work of the late Dr. Michael Heiser. The divine council concept comes into play and there's some competition and interaction between the gods of Babylon and the gods of Canaan and the gods of Egypt. Yeah. They're fighting for dominance between themselves while at the same time struggling against the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. So. And some of the angelic realm shows up there. The truth trio, the Michael, Gabriel and Uriel.

[Guest or Panelist]

He's such a great writer and in a way, it's looking at the Lord of the Rings world.

[Derek Gilbert]

Yes.

[Guest or Panelist]

Except it's the Bible.

[Derek Gilbert]

Yeah. Yeah. Saw that in the very first of his novels that he wrote, Noah Primeval. Yeah. Noah Primeval with Methuselah and Tubal Cain as a couple of.

[Guest or Panelist]

Yeah.

[Derek Gilbert]

Demon fighting. Nephilim fighting warriors.

[Guest or Panelist]

Exactly.

[Derek Gilbert]

And when the flood comes, they. They go down swinging.

[Guest or Panelist]

Yep.

[Sharon Gilbert]

Spoilers just.

[Derek Gilbert]

Oh, man. What up?

[Guest or Panelist]

Yeah, you need to read Brian's books.

[Derek Gilbert]

He starts.

[Guest or Panelist]

Incredible.

[Derek Gilbert]

He started out as a screenwriter for Hollywood.

[Guest or Panelist]

He still does screenwriting.

[Derek Gilbert]

Yeah. And he writes in that visual style. So. Anyway, that'll be tonight on A View from the Bunker.

[Sharon Gilbert]

Wonderful.

[Derek Gilbert]

And until next time, I'm Derek Gilbert.

[Sharon Gilbert]

I'm Sharon Gilbert. You know, we love all of you. You are family. So bye. Bye. Until then. Until the reunion.

[Derek Gilbert]

Thank you for joining us. We post a new Bible study each Sunday morning, subscribe to the podcast and explore the archives [e-mail].