He Does Not Retain His Anger Forever

Summary

Gilbert House Fellowship – Episode Summary

Episode Title: He Does Not Retain His Anger Forever
Hosts: Derek & Sharon Gilbert
Date: July 19, 2026

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Main Theme

This episode of the Gilbert House Fellowship continues the verse-by-verse Bible study, focusing on the latter chapters of Micah (primarily chapters 6 and 7). Derek and Sharon Gilbert delve into the themes of covenant, justice, divine judgment, and, above all, God's enduring mercy and steadfast love. The current struggles of the Gilberts, health updates, and community prayers add a personal layer, while broader theological questions and textual comparisons (Masoretic vs. Septuagint) bring scholarly depth.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Personal Reflections and Community Connection

• The episode opens with heartfelt remembrance of deceased loved ones and a reflection on the comfort of Christian assurance after loss.
  • Key moment: Sharon shares memories of her sister Marty's sudden passing and the comfort faith brings ([00:21–01:08]).
  • Derek notes: “Knowing where they are and that we will be reunited with them someday is a comfort.” ([01:08])
• Sharon references a community member in need of prayer, demonstrating the show's interactive and empathetic nature ([03:21–05:21]).

2. Micah 6: God’s Legal Case Against Israel

• Derek and Sharon unpack the courtroom imagery in Micah 6, explaining the use of “mountains” as covenant witnesses in the Ancient Near East ([06:03–08:39]).
  • Derek: “In the ancient near east, mountains were often called upon as witnesses to treaties…also represented entities, pantheons...” ([08:26–08:46])
• The use of legal language (plead, indictment, controversy) underlines the seriousness of Israel breaking its covenant. Sharon points out: “…if they keep all the laws they’re going to be fine. They don’t need Jesus. I live a good life. Step into the courtroom and see what the Creator… has to say.” ([10:35])
• Notable Quote:
  • Sharon: “You only have to miss one thing and you’re guilty of all.” ([11:03])
  • Derek: “But when Jesus steps in and says he’s covered by my blood. Oh. Case dismissed.” ([11:08])

3. Role of Women in Ministry

• Sharon highlights the inclusion of Miriam among Israel’s leaders, springboarding into a broader discussion of the roles of women in ministry and referencing Donna Howell’s work (“The Handmaiden’s Conspiracy”) ([11:42–13:46]).
• Key moment: Advocacy for women’s spiritual leadership and the dismantling of limiting traditions ([13:14–13:17]).

4. Historical & Archaeological Context

• Analysis of place names, e.g., Shittim (possibly ancient Sodom) and etymology links between Sodom and Shittim ([15:11–16:43]).
• Fascinating detail: “The only thing able to grow was acacia… salt and drought tolerant. The ark [of the covenant] was made from acacia wood.” ([16:43–16:48])

5. God’s Requirements: Justice & Mercy

• The famous summary from Micah 6:8 is discussed: “He has told you, O man, what is good… to do justice… love kindness… walk humbly with your God” ([17:59–18:05]).
• Notable connection to Christ: Sharon sees an echo of God offering His own “firstborn” in verse 7 ([17:53]).

6. Textual Variants: Masoretic vs. Septuagint

• The hosts regularly compare texts, revealing significant differences between the Hebrew Masoretic and Greek Septuagint versions.
• Example: Verses about weights and measures (Micah 6:10-11) interpreted as ancient idioms for dishonesty ([22:01–23:28]).
• Sharon observes: “There are idioms in here… well known at the time… that we don’t quite get.” ([23:06–23:13])
• Discussion on how differences might reflect historical, cultural, or polemical changes—especially regarding Israel’s suffering among “the nations” and rabbinical redactions post-Christianity ([37:16–38:23], [51:44–53:10]).

7. Contemporary Parallels and Social Commentary

• The Gilberts draw connections between Micah’s descriptions of societal breakdown and today’s world:
  • “This could very well describe the world today… on the net. Hunting one another.” ([29:55])
  • Familial division as spiritual warfare and modern phenomena like generational estrangement, social media, and digital distractions ([40:24–41:32]).
• Notable Quote:
  • Derek: “The family is the smallest battle formation military unit in the spiritual war in which we are all deployed.” ([41:00])

8. Hope and Restoration: Micah’s Conclusion

• Despite judgment, God’s ultimate forgiveness and steadfast love are celebrated.
  • Micah’s name is a pun: “Who is a god like you?” ([53:29])
  • Sharon: “He does not retain his anger forever because he delights in steadfast love.” ([53:29–53:49])
  • “…He will cast all our sins into the depths of the sea.” ([53:54]), with the ‘sea’ as a symbol of chaos and utter removal.
• Personal Application: Derek reflects on parental love and discipline as a metaphor for God’s dealings with Israel and with us ([55:04–55:45]).
• Discussion of “replacement theology,” affirming that God’s promises to Israel remain and that Christians are “grafted in,” not replacing Israel ([58:57–59:55]).

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Notable Quotes & Moments

• Micah’s Message Summed Up
  Derek: “He does not retain his anger forever because he delights in steadfast love.” ([53:29])
• On God’s Judgment and Mercy
  Sharon: “We need to strive to be as parents like God is toward us. Yes, he will chastise us… but that blessing is still coming.” ([55:45])
• On Scripture Study
  Sharon: “The goal is to try to understand what is there… not, ‘Hey, I’ve read it all.’” ([62:04–62:13])
• On Suffering and Trusting God
  Sharon: “We do not limit the Lord in His response. If He chooses to cure you… we will rejoice, and if He does not, we will still rejoice.” ([73:01])
• On Sin, Forgiveness, and the Depth of Divine Mercy
  Derek: “There is nothing that you can do that is so bad that it will get between you and God.” ([56:59])

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Timestamps for Important Segments

• Opening/Remembrance & Grief in Faith: [00:21–01:54]
• Micah 6 Courtroom Imagery: [06:03–10:15]
• Women in Ministry Discussion: [11:42–13:46]
• God’s Requirements (Micah 6:8): [17:59–18:05]
• Textual Comparison/Scripture Exegesis: [21:15–23:28], [37:16–38:23], [51:44–53:10]
• Social/Contemporary Parallels: [29:55–32:00], [40:24–41:32]
• God’s Forgiveness & Steadfast Love (Climax): [53:29–54:43]
• Discussion on Replacement Theology & Israel: [58:57–60:30]
• Encouragement to Deep Bible Study: [61:00–62:13]

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Listener Questions & Closing Thoughts

• Q&A Segment
  • Vlad asks about Shemyaza and the multiplicity of divine/angelic names; Derek traces this figure through multiple ancient theologies and asserts its connections across cultures and scriptural references ([74:59–77:55]).
• Host Personal Update: Derek provides a health update regarding treatment for CIDP and reflects on faith in suffering ([70:34–74:48]).
• Encouragement to Pray & Study: Sharon and Derek close in prayer for wisdom, boldness, and the strength to reflect God’s love—to “be good ambassadors” ([79:28–82:45]).
• Parting Thought: “We love you guys so very much. And the Lord Jesus Christ died for you. He loves you that much.” ([83:26])

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Final Reflection

Through a detailed exploration of Micah, text-critical insights, personal stories, and spiritual encouragement, this episode reminds listeners that God’s justice is always accompanied by His mercy, and that no matter how dire the circumstances—ancient or modern—He does not retain His anger forever. Instead, He delights in steadfast love, faithfully keeping His promises throughout the generations.

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Listen for: Scholarly depth combined with homespun warmth, rich biblical discussion, encouragement amid personal and communal hardship, and practical lessons for Christian life today.

Transcript

[A]

From the beautiful Missouri Ozarks, greetings and welcome to the Gilbert House fellowship for Sunday, July 19, 2026. I'm Derek Gilbert.

[B]

I am Sharon Gilbert. And I want to wish a heavenly birthday to my sister Marty. Oh, July 19th is her birthday.

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I had forgotten.

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Yeah.

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Marty was your oldest sister.

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Oldest sister. She died maybe four or five years ago. Five years ago, maybe, yeah. Yeah.

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When Very suddenly.

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Very suddenly. She had a brain aneurysm. You never know what's lurking. I mean, it's like your hidden aneurysm that was discovered when you had testing for whatever is going on with you, which is now diagnosed as cidp. It was thought it might be cardiovascular. Well, that found the silent killer aneurysm in you, so I was really grateful for that.

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Yeah.

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So Marty was a believer. She's in heaven. I know she is.

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That made things a lot easier to deal with, as with the case of my father. When my dad passed. When your dad passed. When your mom passed. Knowing where they are and that we will be reunited with them someday is a comfort. And that's the sad thing, the tragedy of people who don't have that blessed assurance. You see them at. We probably have all seen at funerals for friends or family members, people who are just absolutely inconsolable because they don't know.

[B]

Well, I think you can be inconsolable even if you do know that your loved one has gone to be with Jesus because you're so lonely suddenly, especially if you've been widowed.

[A]

Yeah. There have been studies that show that that loss is the greatest trauma that anyone can ever endure. But again, it does soften it somewhat, at least knowing that it does.

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It really does. So to many of you who are listening, thank you for tuning in. We are delighted that you've chosen to join us in our home, and we love each and every one of you to today. Boy. We're going to be heading to Springfield later today because tomorrow, and I'm grateful for this, tomorrow is your first infusion session. It will be about four hours of slowly getting the ivig, the immunoglobulin that is just going to protect you, possibly, but possibly even reset your immune system.

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Yeah, we'll talk more about that in the OG report.

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We will.

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We will indeed explain what that's all about.

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You can download our app, though, if you want to, you know, have more blather and find a way to stupefy your smartphone.

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You know, for years we've had people who have said to us, I love listening to you while I fall asleep. So if you're having trouble with insomnia, perhaps we can cure that as well.

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We can help. Bladder control is not our forte.

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That is correct. So Gilberthouse.org app is where you'll find the link to the various app stores. But of course you can just go to the app store for your device. IOS, Android, Amazon, Kindle, Fire even or Smart TVs and set top boxes like Roku Fire TV, Apple TV, Google TV, Android TV. The advantage of the mobile app of course is that you've got the calendar of upcoming events and of course the community section for from which we have a very interesting question that we will also have at the end of today's study sections in there where you can ask questions of Sharon and me, comment on the various programs and of course the prayer request section which is very, very active lady in there today who I won't mention her name because I didn't ask permission, but dealing with multiple kidney stones. Yeah, my dad had one and he described it as a new adventure in pa. So God bless her and pray for a swift and pain free resolution to that situation.

[B]

Well, they're now over the last 20 years or so lithotripsy has been available and sometimes that can essentially break down the size of the stones.

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Doesn't make it totally painful.

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No, it doesn't. It doesn't, but it does.

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More morphine please. Yeah, that's really not. Not in a good experience. I've been told that I've got a few little teeny weeny ones that are kind of rolling around inside there. Nothing to cause me any trouble just yet. But yeah, there are, there are things. Was it lemon or. Lemon? I think that helps with possibly.

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Yeah, we try to add lemon to our water all the time anyway.

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Yeah, that may be a way to help keep them manageable and down to.

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Regardless. It's good for you.

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Vitamin C. Absolutely.

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Boy. We're going to open with a word of prayer.

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Yes, Father. Thank you for bringing us together over your word today. And as we study, Lord, we ask you to fill us with your spirit. Grant us wisdom, Lord, that we would understand your word to the best of our ability. We will never completely understand your mind, but Father, help us to understand your desire for us, your path for us to the best of our ability and help us to understand. Again, we ask to understand your word to the best of the abilities with which you blessed us. And we ask this in Jesus name. Amen.

[B]

Amen.

[A]

So we're continuing on in the book of Micah after last week's Interesting session about the Assyrian, except there's no the in the phrase there. It's just Ashura. So is it Assyria? Is it the God Asshur, who is the equivalent of Molech, who is the equivalent of Shemyaza, the leader of the Genesis 6 rebellion, and Abaddon? Apollyon.

[B]

Yes. Well, I want to just. It's been a while. Refresh my own memory. I'm going back to chapter five, where it ends with, and it shall come to pass, beginning of verse 10. And I'm reading from the Septuagint, by the way. And it shall come to pass in that day, saith the Lord, that I will utterly destroy the horses out of the midst of thee and destroy the chariots, and I will utterly destroy the cities of thy land and demolish all thy strongholds. And I think he. Yep. He has previously talked about the remnant of Jacob. And I will utterly destroy thy sorceries out of thine hands. And there shall be no soothsayers in thee. And I will utterly destroy the graven images and the statues out of the midst of thee and thou shalt never any more worship the works of thine hands. And I will cut off the groves out of the midst of thee and I will abolish thy seed cities. And I will execute vengeance on the heathen in anger and wrath because they hearkened not. I wanted to back up that because we don't get chapter divisions, I wanted to see how this sets up. Verse one of chapter six.

[A]

Yeah. The chapter divisions were decided upon. The prophets did not write with chapter and verse. Yeah. Chapter six, verse one. Hear what Yahweh says. Arise, plead your case before the mountains, and let the hills hear your voice.

[B]

Oh, Septuagint is different. The preposition is not before. It is with the mountains.

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The new English translation renders it, Defend yourself before the mountains. Essentially, he's talking about a court case here. And in the ancient near east, mountains were often called upon as witnesses to

[B]

treaties, and mountains were. And to judicial decisions also represented entities,

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pantheons, as you remember from our study of First Enoch. Background, chapter 20, where he sees the flaming mountains, which were the angels who did not obey.

[B]

And as you say, it is not only the mountains, a physical spot that was called upon to witness a treaty. It was often a God or goddess, and they would exact revenge if you broke the treaty.

[A]

Right, right. The verb. The Hebrew verb translated plead, you know, plead your case. This is a phrase that is often used in the prophets, the writings of the prophets, to describe God's lawsuit against those guilty of breaking his laws. In other words, we had this covenant, and now I'm accusing you of breaking the covenant. For example, in Isaiah 3, verse 13, the Lord Yahweh has taken his place to contend. He stands to judge peoples. Jeremiah 2, verse 9. Therefore I still contend with you, declares the Lord. In other words, he's taken you to court for breaking his covenant. Hosea 4, verse 1. Hear the word of Yahweh, O children of Israel, for Yahweh has a controversy with the inhabitants of the land.

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We get the same word in verse two of this chapter.

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Yeah. Hear you mountains. The indictment of Yahweh.

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This says the controversy of the Lord.

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So controversy may be the same as.

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And here the verb is again. Riv is the verb, and it's translated as indictment. Hear you, mountains. The indictment of Yahweh he didn't need. He's his own grand jury.

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You know, here's the thing, too. This is a legal setting. And there are those who believe that if they keep all the laws that they're going to be fine. They don't need Jesus. I live a good life. Step into the courtroom and see what the Creator of all the universe has to say.

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Yeah.

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You only have to miss one thing and you're guilty of all.

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Exactly.

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Yeah. But when Jesus steps in and says he's covered by my blood.

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Yeah. Oh. Case dismissed.

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Yep. You got it.

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Yeah. Hear you mountains. The indictment of Yahweh and you enduring foundations of the earth. For Yahweh has an indictment against his people, and he will contend with Israel. Now God is speaking. Oh, my people, what have I done to you? How have I wearied you? Answer me. For I brought you up from the land of Egypt and redeemed you from the house of slavery. And I sent before you Moses, Aaron and Miriam.

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That's interesting. Miriam is listed amongst Moses and Aaron. He's listing prophets.

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Yes, yes.

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And she's often called a prophetess.

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And there are others in the Old Testament. Huldah is one that comes to mind. Deborah. Yeah, I think there's. And this is where our good friend Donna Howell catches a lot of heat because she's written the Handmaiden's Conspiracy. And there's a documentary that was in the works to which we contributed about the role of women in the church. Your niece, Liz. Liz Barradus is a firecracker of a preacher.

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Oh, she though. Oh, my goodness. That gal.

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Yeah.

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And her husband is a great preacher.

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Yes, Steve is. The two of them together. And they're doing really good work there in Madison, Indiana. By the way, if you don't follow Liz Brodus on Facebook for her Wednesday coffee and encouragement, you really should. But there are those who, through centuries of tradition, will just absolutely deny that a woman can do anything in a church except sit quietly with her hands folded. So, yeah, it is interesting.

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When the Lord's calling is upon you, you have to answer.

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Yeah. And I know in the Book of Acts there was another. Well, husband and wife. And she was. And I'm forgetting her name now, she was described as an apostle, so forgive me for not having anything.

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Are you thinking of the one that Timothy that was in that house?

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Church.

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I'd have to look. It's in the Book of Acts, I'm thinking. Anyway, this is Donna's area of expertise.

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And again, she's not the bad ones. Ananias.

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Yeah, right. Ananias and spirit. No, they're right out. Donna has done a lot of research on this and dug into not just the Greek of the New Testament, the Hebrew of the Old Testament, but the cultural norms of that day and age to make her case. So

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read the book.

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Yeah, read the book with an open mind. I sent before you Moses, Aaron and Miriam. O my people, remember what Balak, king of Moab, devised and what Balaam the son of Beor, answered him. And what happened from Shittim to Gilgal, that you may know the righteous acts of Yahweh. Shatim is the plains of Moab. But an Israeli archaeologist, Nelson Glick, around 1945, working over there. I say Israeli Jewish it was prior to Israel becoming a nation. But a Jewish archaeologist, Nelson Glick. And I'm probably mispronouncing it because G, L umlaut. C, K. Gluk. Gluk. Nelson Gluck believed that Shatim was on the lower tall of Tall el Hammam, which Dr. Stephen Collins has convinced us is the site of Sodom.

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And they were there.

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They were there. Gilgal is not Gilgal Rephaim, which is on The Golan Heights, 10 miles east of the Sea of Galilee. It's Gilgal, just across the river, but before you. Just west of the Jordan, but before you get to Jericho. That's the Gilgalan reference there. So I'm sorry, I interrupted. You were about to say something.

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Now I've forgotten what it was, but it doesn't really matter. But when I say they were there, I'm talking about Moses and the Israelites.

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Correct.

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They camped where Sodom had been at one time.

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Right.

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And in fact, Shittim and Sodom have the same etymological root.

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Same, yes, that is correct. Avel shittim means acacias of mourning or weeping. Because when the Israelites got to the plains of Moab, 400 years or 430 years or 215 years, depending on how you calculate the time, the 400 years that God talked to Abraham about in Genesis 15. Anyway, either way, centuries after Sodom was destroyed, the only thing that was still able to grow in that area because of all the salt water that had been splashed from the Dead Sea eight miles away was acacia, because it's salt tolerant and drought tolerant.

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And the ark was made from acacia wood. Acacia wood, yeah.

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Not Noah's Ark, the Ark of the Covenant.

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Right. That was made from gopher wood, I think.

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Noah's ark, yeah.

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Gophers had to go get it. I'm joking.

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Just remembering my dad telling a joke about gophers. But anyway, what shall I become? With what shall I come before Yahweh and bow myself before God on high? Shall I come before him with burnt offerings, with calves a year old? Will Yahweh be pleased with thousands of rams, with ten thousands of rivers of oil?

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Oh, no, this says ten thousands of fat goats.

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Shall I give my firstborn for my transgression, the fruit of my body for the sin of my soul?

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Oh, that's big. These are things that were done.

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Yes. And I think here he's.

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He's also talking about his own firstborn.

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Yeah, yes, yeah.

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He offered his own firstborn himself in

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the form of Yeshua, the second power in heaven. But, yeah, sadly, children were sacrificed. In fact, there was one king who sacrificed a child on a wall.

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Well, yeah, the king of Moab, Misha.

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Yeah, but this is the soup that they were all living in.

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Right, exactly. This was a known thing among the pagans that continued into the Christian era as the Amorites, the Canaanites, the Phoenicians. All the same group. They were all Amorites, just by different names. The Phoenicians sacrificed their children by the thousands.

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But this is also referring to things

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that Israel was doing.

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Well, yes, the prophets were condemning them for this sort of thing, sacrificing their children to Molech. Shall I give my firstborn for my transgression, the fruit of my body, for the sin of my soul? In other words, can I buy redemption by sacrificing my own child? But you're right, that's a really good catch. God did that for us by sacrificing. He has told You, O man, what is good? And what does Yahweh require of you, but to do justice and to love kindness and to walk humbly with your God? The voice of Yahweh cries to the city. And it is sound wisdom to fear your name. Hear of the rod and of him who appointed it. Hear of the rod and him who appointed it. The meaning of the Hebrew is uncertain, according to the ESV translators.

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Verse 9 in the Septuagint says, the

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Lord's voice shall be proclaimed in the

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city, and he shall save those that fear his name. Understand? The name of Yahweh is. The second power is Yeshua.

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Yeah. It is a. Another.

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It's called Hashem.

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Yeah. It's another aspect of God's being. It is not just his reputation.

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The Jews today, when I refer to Yahweh, they don't say Yahweh, they say Hashem.

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Yeah, the name.

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And it says, O tribe, and who shall order the city?

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New English translators render it this way. Listen, Yahweh is calling to the city. It is wise to respect your authority, O Yahweh. Listen, O nation, and those assembled in the city.

[C]

Hmm. Maybe that order of the city is this idea of assembling everybody.

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I don't know.

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No, no. It is an odd phrase.

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It is. And that's again why the ESV translators admit we really don't quite know what this means. The Net Bible translators suggest that not amending, emending, which is the process of correcting what's a perceived error in the text or a copy error, the translation assumes an emendation to listen, O tribe and the assembly of the city, instead of hear of the rod and of him who appointed it. Yeah, Very different.

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Which is another reason that we love to look at the Septuagint. It's from a much older manuscript, probably 1100 years older or so.

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Yeah.

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And translated from that Hebrew manuscript into Greek.

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Yeah. Verse 10. Can I forget any longer? The treasures of wickedness in the house of the wicked and the scant measure that it is accursed.

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Okay, this is.

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That is accursed.

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Entirely different. Is there not fire and the house of the wicked heaping up wicked treasures that with the pride of unrighteousness I.e. verse 10 in the Septuagint Net Bible

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I will not overlook, O sinful house, the dishonest gain you have hoarded away or the smaller than standard measure I hate so much. Oh, scant measure. In other words, you're cheating when people are. I want, you know, a pound of grain and you're actually giving them, you know, 12 ounces.

[B]

Anybody listening to this? And you cook or bake, you run across scant teaspoon.

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Okay.

[B]

It's not a level teaspoon. It's slightly less.

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Gotcha.

[B]

But what does the Lexum say?

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For Lexum says, does will a lawless person. This verse 11.

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No, no, 10. I asked 10. That's what you just read. And I read the Septuagint.

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Okay, okay, Right, right, right. I saw. Verse 11 also deals with weights and measures. Verse 10. Does fire in a lawless house store up lawless treasure and injustice with insolence?

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This says the pride of unrighteousness.

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It's.

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It's sort of a. And I'm betting that there are idioms in here.

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Yeah.

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That were well known at the time.

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Yeah. That we don't quite get.

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Like, play ball. That's an idiom.

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Yeah.

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That we all understand what it means.

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That came out of left field. Yep, yep. Verse 11, again, dealing with measures. Shall I equip the man with wicked scales and with a bag of deceitful weights.

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Yeah.

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Your rich men are full of violence. Your inhabitants speak lies, and their tongue is deceitful in their mouth. Therefore I strike you with a grievous blow, making you desolate because of your sins. This is.

[B]

Again, this is the judgment in this courtroom.

[A]

Right. And remembering that Micah was writing during the time when the Assyrians were coming into raiding and were coming to smite, they eventually defeated and destroyed, conquered The Northern Kingdom, 722 BC and about 20 years later, almost did the same thing to Jerusalem. You shall eat, but not be satisfied, and there shall be hunger within you. You shall put away, but not preserve. And what you preserve, I will give to the sword.

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This says, thou shalt eat and shalt not be satisfied.

[B]

And there shall be darkness upon thee, and he shall depart from thee, and thou shalt not escape, and all that

[C]

thou shall escape shall be delivered over to the sword. This is not going to be fun.

[B]

And being invaded would never be fun.

[C]

But here's the thing. Israel was a witness to all of

[B]

the nations around them.

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Yahweh chose them to be the element from which the family from which Yeshua would be born. But Messiah, but also, this is. Everybody, look at this. How I love thee. The. The favor that is granted to these people because they follow me. So when they don't follow, they have to be corrected. And he uses the surrounding nations ironically, who are supposed to learn from Israel. Instead, they chastise Israel as the Lord's club.

[A]

Yeah. And then they themselves wind up getting punished.

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They do.

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The Syrians wind up being overtaken by the Babylonians, the Babylonians overtaken by the Persians. Persians avoided that because Cyrus and Artaxerxes said, yeah, go back and rebuild. You shall sow, but not reap. You shall tread olives, but not anoint yourselves with oil. You shall tread grapes, but not drink wine, for you have kept the statues of Omri. Omri was the father of Ahab. He's the one who established, really, and made the Northern Kingdom a real powerhouse.

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Omri is not in this verse in the Septuagint which says, but ye shall drink no wine. And the ordinances. Ordinances of my people shall be utterly abolished.

[A]

Huh.

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No armory.

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Interesting. For you have kept the statutes of Omri and all the works of the house of ahab.

[B]

In verse 16. You get that?

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That's what I'm reading.

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Oh, sorry. You must have. You started reading 15? Did you just go on to 16? Yeah, sorry. It's called Zombri in the Septuagint.

[A]

I see. Okay. Verse 16 is, for you have kept the statues of Omri and all the works of the house of Ahab, and you have walked in their councils that I may make you a desolation and your inhabitants a hissing. In other words, people mocking Israel. So you shall bear the scorn of my people.

[B]

This. Yes. This says, and you shall bear the reproach of nations. And now to.

[A]

Yeah, that's interesting that they changed it from nations to people because people is ami and nations is goyim.

[B]

Yeah, it's entirely different.

[A]

And it's interesting that the Masoretes would not want to include in that verse, you shall bear the scorn of the goyim.

[B]

Well, that's another reason we like to read the Septuagint.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Micah, chapter seven. Woe is me, for I have become. As when the summer fruit has been gathered, as when the grapes have been gleaned. There is no cluster to eat, no first ripe fig that my soul desires.

[A]

Interesting that that phrase, woe is me. The only other place it's found is in the Book of Job.

[B]

That is interesting.

[A]

Yeah, that's pretty serious woe.

[B]

But if it's only other else found in the Book of Job, that connects it to the Book of job.

[A]

Yeah. Job 10, verse 15. If I am guilty, woe to me. It is a very rare. Obviously only in the Bible twice, but a very rare lamentation.

[B]

We do see woe in the New Testament, in the Book of Revelation. Quite a bit.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Verse two. Yeah. The godly has perished from the earth, and there is no one upright among mankind. They all wait. Sorry.

[C]

They all lie in wait for blood.

[B]

And each hunts the other with a net.

[A]

Oh. Septuagint reads, all go to court for blood. Now the Brenton Septuagint reads, they all quarrel even to blood. But Lexham translates it, all go to court for blood.

[B]

That's really interesting. This could very well describe the world today if you. Not literally hunting one another with a net, but on the net. Hunting one another.

[A]

Yeah. Yeah. Huh.

[B]

You could almost say. Does the Lord mention social media in the Bible? Well, yes. Micah 7, verse 2.

[A]

I'll go to court. I've seen some basketball games would look like that way. Different kind of court.

[B]

Different kind of court, yeah. Verse 3. Their hands are on what is evil to do it. Well, the prince and the judge ask for a bribe. And the great man utters the evil desire of his soul. Thus they weave it together. I'm telling you, this sounds like today. And I, you know, I love. I think it was Carl Gallups who said, if we're going to say Sodom's sin and Sodom's destruction was due to a certain activity, then the Lord owes an apology to Sodom because we're doing far worse today.

[A]

It was Billy Graham who said that.

[B]

Okay. Sorry. I've heard Carl Gallup say, say it. He was quoting Billy Graham.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

He probably gave him the, you know, attribution. But because Carl's an honest guy, we love Carl. We get to see him soon. We'll talk about that later. The godly has perished from the earth, and there is no upright. No one upright among mankind. They all lie in wait for blood, and each hunts the other with a net. Verse 3. Again, their hands are on what is evil to do it. Well, they want to do evil to do. They want to do the evil really well.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

The prince and the judge ask for a bribe. And the great utters. Great man utters the evil desire of his soul. And they weave it together. The best of them is like a briar, the most upright of them a thorn hedge. The day of your watchman, your punishment has come.

[A]

Which verses were those?

[B]

3 and 4. I reread.

[C]

2.

[A]

Completely different in the Septuagint.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

They often are. Go ahead.

[A]

Verse three is similar. They prepare their hands for evil. The ruler asks. And the judge spoke peaceful words. And the last part Brent on was, the prince asks a reward.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And his judge speaks flattering words. It is the thought of his soul And I will take away their good things, like your devouring and walking upon a rod on a day of watch.

[B]

That's entirely different.

[A]

Woe, woe, your vengeance has come. Now their weepings will be. That's verse four. That's why I was confused.

[B]

Boy, can you read verse four again?

[A]

Verse four. Like you're devouring and walking upon a rod on a day of watch. Woe, woe, your vengeance has come. Now their weepings will be verse four in the Brenton, which is different even from the Lexham I know. Therefore, I will take away their goods as a devouring moth and as one who acts by a rigid rule in a day of visitation. Woe, woe, thy times of vengeance are come. Now shall be their lamentations.

[C]

Now you have to wonder why the

[B]

Masoretes changed that verse so much.

[A]

The best of them is like a briar, the most upright of them like a Thornhenge.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Now I suppose it's possible that again, 2nd century BC ish.

[A]

3rd century.

[B]

Septuagint. Yeah, third. When the translation took place from Hebrew to Greek,

[C]

somewhere along the line, some,

[B]

and perhaps even most or all of those manuscripts, those scrolls were lost, but reassembled later on and was by 1100 A.D. somewhere in there about 900 A.D. okay. Yeah. So a long time, over a millennia went by before the Masoretic text was completed. Either it was purposely changed for some reason, or this is just how it turned out to be pieced together. I don't know.

[A]

Yeah, it's. Yeah. Do not know. The fact that Micah uses that same phrase that's in the Book of Job suggests maybe some archaic language in Micah. But again, Micah was writing in the 8th century BC and job probably, oh, really old. Yeah. It is the oldest book in the Bible. Scholars are in agreement on that. But how far back? If we put abraham at around 1800 ish bc and you know, the century following, because Sodom's destruction was 1700 BC give or take 50 years. But that's based on carbon 14, which is not always that accurate.

[B]

That's not reliable.

[A]

Yeah. So it could be older than that. But say 1800ish BC for Abraham. Job maybe 2020-100bc somewhere in there. So that's a long time between Job and Micah. I mean, you think about the changes in the English language 1400 years ago.

[C]

Oh, my goodness.

[A]

English was not distinguishable. Most of us today wouldn't be able to understand somebody speaking. I don't even think you would identify any language in the seventh century A.D.

[C]

i think any student of literature trying to study Chaucer now or Paradise Lost or even Shakespeare, for goodness sake.

[A]

Well, even the King James version, which is 17th century English, is sometimes a little difficult to understand. So.

[B]

Yeah, yeah, very early 17th century.

[C]

I think it's 1611.

[A]

1611 was the first edition. Right. And it was updated again in the 18th century, which is, I think, the King James that most of us are familiar with. But even that is still a little bit archaic. So it's possible that just the, the Hebrew is a little archaic, which is the reason for the differences. But it again, could be that there are some things that the Masoretes did not want to include. For example, enduring the. What was the phrase there? The reproaches of the peoples, the reproaches of the goyim. By the 10th century AD, Jews had been scattered from Mesopotamia to Europe and were often not treated well by their neighbors. And so they did not want to include that phrase in Micah.

[B]

Probably not.

[A]

So I don't know, that may be the reason for that particular change. But why this change here about the Devouring? The devouring moth walking upon a rod on a day of watch, who acts by a rigid rule in a day of visitation.

[B]

Yeah, I think what we're seeing, seeing at the very least in this is that everybody's doing evil. Everyone's doing what right? What was in his own. That which was right in his own eyes.

[A]

Right. And the judges and the, you know, taking bribes and so forth.

[B]

You couldn't trust the watchmen, you couldn't trust the judges, you couldn't trust your rulers, you couldn't trust anybody. And in verse five, you can't trust your neighbor. Do not trust in a neighbor. Have no confidence in a friend. Guard the doors of your mouth from her who lies or from her who lies in your arms. Don't trust your girlfriend. Don't trust a friend. Don't trust a neighbor. Be careful what you say because they're all listening. Well, say again. This sounds like the Internet.

[A]

It kind of does, yeah. Brenton says, beware of thy wife. Lexham translates it. Guard yourself from your bed, partner.

[B]

Yeah, well, that's kind of what it says. From her who lies in your arms.

[C]

Verse 6.

[B]

For the Son treats the father with contempt. The daughter rises up against her mother, the daughter in law against her mother in law.

[C]

A man's enemies are the men of his own house. This reminds me of the Lord's Jesus admonition that he's going to turn children against their fathers and fathers against the Children.

[A]

I was thinking that very thing. In fact, I was going back to the faith life study Bible notes to see if there was a reference to those verses. It's not there. But we are tracking on the same.

[B]

The same thing because we're going to see a repeat. We are seeing a repeat. The things that were going on. Nothing changes. There is nothing new under the sun. Human beings are human beings.

[A]

But sadly we're seeing it without this sort of division. I mean, we've got friends who have lost relationships with family members over their faith in Jesus Christ. People convinced that this person that I'm thinking of, and they're probably more than just the one that I'm thinking of when it comes to mind. Yeah. And I don't want to, you know, even gender because I don't want to get specific, but this person lost marriage and relationship with children because of faith in Jesus Christ. But we're even seeing that though, with the Internet and a lot of videos posted to TikTok and Instagram and so forth, encouraging people to divorce themselves from their parents. It's your parents fault that you're so stressed and anxious and so you need to cut them out of your life because they're toxic. It's their fault.

[C]

And in general, one generation blaming another.

[A]

Yeah, yeah.

[B]

The boomers are at fault for everything.

[A]

Right. They wreck the economy and they've got all the money and they're not giving it to us. And it's the family. I said this before. I was at a men's conference once and saw a very wise pastor make a very, A very insightful observation. The family is the smallest battle formation military unit in the spiritual war in which we are all deployed. And that's why the enemy spends so much time trying to destroy it. And I think this trend of telling young people that they're absolutely right to cut their parents out of their lives for whatever reason, for whatever reason, blame them and then just cut them off, stop seeing them, just refuse to see, just cut them out. That's one aspect. That's one way of doing it. Another, of course, is the distraction caused by the Internet. You go to a restaurant and see a family of four or five just. And they're all sitting there on the phones and the toddler in the high chair has got a little tablet and they're distracted by playing with the bright lights and pretty colors of the tablet instead of interacting with each other.

[B]

Exactly. And that's how we're designed to interact with one another, to be a family.

[A]

Right, right. And then, then of course, you've got the dark aspects of the Internet which draw men and women away into fantasy worlds that are destructive. I mean, that kind of thing literally rewires your brain through the.

[B]

Let me keep reading. Reading six again. For the son treats the father with contempt. The daughter rises up against her mother. The daughter in law against her.

[C]

Her mother in law. A man's enemies are the men of his own house.

[B]

But as for me,

[C]

I will look to Yahweh. I will wait for the God of my salvation.

[B]

Yeshua, my God will hear me.

[C]

Rejoice not over me, my enemy. When I fall, I shall rise. When I sit in darkness, Yahweh will be a light to me. I will bear the indignation of Yahweh because I have sinned against him. Until he pleads my cause and executes judgment for me, he will bring out to the light. I shall look upon his vindication. This is all about salvation. This is all about Yeshua.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

This is the opposite of what man's court does, right? When you trust in the Lord, you're going to get a fair judgment.

[A]

Justice.

[B]

You're going to get true justice.

[C]

Verse 10. Then my enemy will see and shame will cover her. Who said to me, where is yhwh, your God? My eyes will look upon her now she will be trampled down like the mire of the streets. A day for the building of your walls. In that day the boundary shall be for far extended. In that day they will come to you from Assyria and the cities of Egypt, and from Egypt to the river, from sea to sea, and from mountain to mountain.

[A]

The verse is slightly different in the Septuagint. And thy cities shall be leveled and parted among the Assyrians, which of course happened in the northern kingdom in 722. And thy strong cities shall be parted from Tyre to the river and from sea to sea, and from mountain to mountain, rather than Egypt.

[B]

Yeah, this is all about promises. So in that day, verse 12 again. They shall will come to you from a sea, Syria, and the cities of Egypt, and from Egypt to the river. That's Euphrates. And from sea to sea, and from mountain to mountain. But the earth will be desolate because of its inhabitants. For the fruit of their deeds shepherd your people with your staff, the flock of your inheritance. Think Psalm 23. Here, think. The good shepherd. You're looking confused.

[A]

Yeah, I'm going back and said that again. Verse 12 again in the ESV. In that day they will come to you from Assyria and the cities of Egypt and from Egypt to the river from sea to sea and from mountain to mountain. But the earth will be desolate. In the Septuagint it's in the context of a longer beginning of verse 11. That day will be your blotting out. And that day will get rid of your customs and your cities will give way to be leveled.

[B]

This is not at all what it says in the Masoretic.

[A]

That's why I'm looking confused again. The Masoretes changed it again.

[B]

This sounds like a promise. This sounds like, you know, people are going to come to you because you've got everything.

[A]

No, what this is saying is your cities are going to be divided to Assyria and your secure cities to have division from Tyre as far as the river. The Assyrians and the Phoenicians are going to basically split. This is a prophecy of the coming destruction by the Assyrians.

[B]

I agree. But what's so funny is it's not at all that. So what does verse 13 say?

[A]

And the land will be for destruction together with its inhabitants from the fruits of their practices.

[B]

Wow.

[C]

That's entirely different. What's verse 14 say?

[A]

Verse 14 is very similar. Shepherd your people with your staff. The sheep of your inheritance who are settling by themselves in a thicket in the middle of Carmel. They will pasture the Bashan and the Gilead like the days of eternity.

[C]

This is what's so weird because this sounds like a wonderful promise.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

That follows upon these other verses that

[C]

seem like a promise. This new paragraph that starts in the Masoretic text. A day for the building of your walls.

[A]

Yeah. Let them graze in Bashan and Gilead as in the days of old.

[C]

Well, verse 14 in the Masoretic text in the ESV. Shepherd your people with your staff the flock of your inheritance who dwell alone in a forest in the midst of a garden.

[A]

Land in the midst of car. In the middle of Carmel.

[C]

Exactly. Which means garden. Let them graze in Bashan and Gilead as in the days of old. As in the days when you came up out of the land of Egypt. I will show them marvelous things. The nations shall see and be ashamed of all their mights that they shall lay their hands on their mouths. Their ears shall be deaf.

[B]

They shall lick the dust like a serpent. Like the crawling things of the earth. They shall come trembling out of their strongholds. They shall turn in dread to Yahweh, our God and they shall live in fear of you.

[A]

So, like there was a promise of a coming destruction because of Assyria. But then there's that change there in verse 14. Shepherd your people with your staff, the sheep of your inheritance. And then it. Because the Septuagint is very similar to what you've just read here. It's like the Masoretes changed a couple verses there. Specifically verses 11 and 12, 12, 11 through 13, which were the prophecy of the coming destruction. Your cities will give way to be leveled and to a division of Syria and your secure cities to a division from Tyre. And yeah, the Brenton is I think what I understood it to mean. Thy cities shall be leveled and parted among the Assyrians and thy strong cities shall be parted from Tyre to the river and from C to C. If

[B]

you are sitting there confused, as we've said, the, the Septuagint, the Lord has allowed the Septuagint to be recovered.

[C]

A lot of it came from Ethiopia that they did a wonderful job of preserving the texts from the, the old days, the, the pre Yeshua days.

[A]

A study on the, the preservation of the Septuagint.

[C]

That's a good idea. But you can also find all of that in Doug Woodward's two volume set, Rebooting the Bible. Booting the Bible, which is all about the Septuagint.

[A]

Yeah. And I would also add in Doug Van Doren's most recent book, the Battle for the Bible's Truth.

[C]

Yes.

[A]

Where he goes into the very scholarly revelation of how rabbis in the 2nd century AD after the Bar Kokva rebellion began to tweak things to de. Emphasize the existence of other entities in the unseen realm. Because Christians were saying things like we

[B]

know who the second power in heaven,

[A]

the second power of heaven is. We know who the angel of Yahweh is. We know who the name is, is. And so the rabbis changed the interpretation of Genesis 6. Rabbi Simeon Simon bar Yocai, who was credited with writing the Zohar, which he didn't. But yeah, he's the one who the rabbis go, that the ultra Orthodox in Israel go to Mount Meron to venerate once a year. He's the one. He was the acolyte, the student of Rabbi Akiva who declared that Simon bar Kokba was the Messiah. And Doug has done a really good job in that book with pointing this out. Now his interpretation of Genesis 6 eventually made its way into the Christian church thanks to Augustine in the 5th century, which is why pastors today at seminary are not taught the supernatural interpretation of Genesis 6 and divine counsel, total understanding

[B]

of the Old Testament without that.

[A]

So anyway, there are some divisions, not enough to say hey, your Old Testament is untrustworthy. Throw it out. That's not what we're saying.

[B]

But we are saying, if you really

[C]

want to dig in and be a student of the Bible, then start reading the Septuagint as well.

[A]

Compare it side by side with the Masoretic text and just take note of those things like we're seeing here. It's like, well, okay, you can understand after, say, after Constantine, Emperor Constantine legalized Christianity, and Christianity became the official religion of the empire after Theodosius, 375 A.D. christians began persecuting Jews at that point, to the point where it got really nasty. And so you can understand why the masoretes, after, say, 600 years of persecution by Christians, by the time their Masoretic text was complete, might have tweaked some things. Like, you'll endure

[B]

the.

[A]

The persecution of the nations. The goyim. Yeah, we don't want that in there. Because

[B]

even though they were.

[A]

Even though they were. Yeah, but it's not enough to change the theological message of the Bible. Sin and salvation.

[B]

Exactly. Verse 18. Who is a God like you, pardoning iniquity and passing over transgression for the remnant of his inheritance. He does not retain his anger forever because he delights in steadfast love.

[A]

Who is a God like you. That's actually a pun on Micah's name. Micah's name means who is like Yahweh.

[B]

Yes. Yes, that's good. He will again have compassion on us. He will tread our iniquities underfoot. He will cast all our sins into

[A]

the depths of the sea, into the abyss, into Tartarus.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

Yeah, send them down there along with the sons of God. From Genesis 6, the Titans, you will

[B]

show faithfulness to Jacob and steadfast love to Abraham, as you have sworn to our fathers from the days of old.

[A]

So despite the prophecies of the coming devastation of the Assyrians, because of the lawlessness and the unrighteousness of the ruling elites of Israel and Judah, Micah concludes his book with this promise. He does not retain his anger forever because he delights in steadfast love.

[B]

Isn't that wonderful?

[A]

It's like, you think about it when, as a parent, the child does something wrong and then tries to lie her way out of it, which didn't happen to us very often with our daughter. Thankfully, Nicole has grown to be a remarkable young woman.

[B]

She's incredible.

[A]

But there were a couple times when, as a dad and I, you know, have to think back at how my dad responded when I. When he had Calmed down, he said to me, you know, I actually feel sorry for you because you're a terrible liar. Which is a good thing. It is a good thing, Nicole. Likewise. But once you get past that anger and the punishment has been meted out. Okay, you did this thing wrong. And I'm not happy that this is making you angry at me or upset with me, but you need to understand there are consequences for your actions. But then once that passes, you think about steadfast love and the love of a parent for a child, and it's always there. So again, the enemy wants to tear that up. A fallen realm to drive a wedge between parent and child, between spouse and spouse. And we need to. To strive to be as parents like God is toward us. Yes, he will chastise us. And usually when we are running into difficulties in our lives, it's because we're not following what God has intended for us. But that blessing is still coming, and that everlasting life with him in glory is still ahead. So he does not retain his anger forever because he delights in steadfast love. I like that verse.

[B]

Me, too. It's one of those things you want to cross stitch and put on the wall.

[A]

Yeah. You will cast all our sins into the depths of the sea. And again, the word sea in Hebrew is yam, which, not coincidentally, was the name of the chaos dragon of the Canaanite religion, representing primordial chaos, Leviathan, the abyss, the bottomless pit. Tartarus, if you will. That's how far away he is casting our sins. So just keep that in mind. There is nothing that you can do that is so bad that it will get between you and God. He does not retain his anger forever because he delights in steadfast love. Hmm. Why that's hitting me so this morning. But it just.

[B]

Well, you've always had a very tender heart, sweetie. But I think since you've been dealing with this autoimmune thing, it. For whatever reason, and it may be

[C]

just recognizing that

[B]

we are mortal.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

You start to get our age, or things start to fall apart, and you realize, you know what? I'm not going to be here forever. The way we tend to think when

[B]

we're young,

[A]

eight foot tall and bulletproof. Yeah.

[C]

Well, yeah. And I think because of that, when you read promises like this, they mean more because we are closer to that moment when we'll see him face to face.

[A]

I think so, too. In the last verse, verse 20, you will show faithfulness to Jacob and steadfast love to Abraham. As you have sworn to our fathers from days of old.

[B]

He keeps his promises.

[A]

And sadly, there are some professing Christians today who want to believe that Jews, that Israel, because they're in unbelief, have been completely cut out of the end times. Promises of the end times. That all of the promises that we have just read apply now to the church rather than to Jacob and to Abraham.

[B]

It's pretty clear it applies to Jacob.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

But we as Christians have been grafted into that.

[A]

We've been grafted in.

[B]

We've not replaced it exactly. We've joined it.

[A]

Yes. We're referring to Romans 11, where Paul uses the image of an olive tree into which we have been grafted as wild shoots grafted into the cultivated olive tree. God did not cut down that tree and plant a new one.

[B]

No, he did not.

[A]

He grafted us in. And God will continue in his kindness to us, Paul wrote, as long as we continue in kindness towards the branches that were broken off, the Jews who are in unbelief.

[B]

And we're told not to despise those things.

[A]

That's right. Because God can break us off and cut us off just as easily as he cut them off.

[B]

So be careful of what you say and do.

[A]

Exactly. This is not saying that there's a special dispensation. There is no path to the Father except through Jesus Christ.

[B]

Correct. But they will look upon him who they have pierced and mournful.

[A]

Yeah. Well, boy, we got a lot to get through yet in this Bible. And I know that we're going through it slowly, but it's like savoring a wonderful meal. We're not gulping it down.

[B]

No. This is the word of God and this is our bread.

[A]

Yeah. So let's treat it as such. Yeah. We kind of laugh since we started this. We went through the entire Bible, Old and New Testament, between 2014, September of 2014, and I think August of 2019. And so now here we are seven years on, and we're only through the book of Micah this time through.

[B]

And it's not even, you know.

[C]

Okay. From the way it is in the

[B]

order in the Bible.

[C]

It is the order in which these things occur.

[A]

Right. Chronological, rather than the way that they are inserted and organized into the Bible.

[C]

So I've got a lot more to go. But that's okay. It is, you know, the goal isn't, hey, let's all be able to say we made it through the whole Bible. Reading aloud and studying it. We've already done that, if that's what you want. To do, then fine. Or you can do it at home.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Read it with your family. The goal is to try to understand what is there.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Not to. Hey, I've read it all.

[A]

You know, my prayer is that we live long enough to get through the entire Bible.

[C]

You know what? I don't even think about that.

[A]

No.

[C]

No, I don't.

[A]

It's the first time I'm saying this, and I'm laughing because I think it's funny, but we could all be celebrating tomorrow.

[B]

One of us has tomorrow promises.

[A]

That is true. That is true. And I look at some of the read the Bible in a year schedules, and that's great. That's wonderful. I mean, going through the Bible in a year so that you're familiar with what's in there is a wonderful thing and encourage you to do that. But, boy, I'll tell you, if you want to dive in deep, the Gilberts, read through the Bible in 10 years because that's probably how long it's going

[B]

be to done the Bible in a year. A number of times. And, you know, I've probably read through the whole Bible five or six times. But this way, we're catching things that. That you'll easily miss if you're just sitting there reading it to yourself. So if you don't do it with us, then do it with your family. Read it aloud.

[A]

Yes. Because we're not credentialed Bible scholars. I mean, we got pretty good reading comprehension. And now because of the research we've been doing through our books for the last 10 years, we've got a little better frame of reference than we did when we started through it the first time back in 2014. But that's why we're going through it much more slowly this time, because there are cultural things that we're catching, like, you know, hey, testify to the mountains. Defend yourself against the mountains. Like, okay, that's a little deeper. That's just not just picturesque speech.

[B]

It is. And because we love to study and we love to share things with you. It's why we go to conferences. And so a week from today. Yes, we will be not. We will not be putting on. We will be not. There will be no fellowship because we will be in Ohio.

[A]

Yes, we be will in Ohio.

[B]

I'm turning into Yoda.

[A]

Yeah. And we'll be there July 24th and 25th. That's next Friday and Saturday, and it's at the Harvest Revival center in Brookville just outside Dayton, Ohio. The reason it doesn't continue on into Sunday is because Pastor Neil Peterson is holding services there on Sunday.

[C]

He needs his church back.

[A]

Yes. But encourages everyone at the conference to stay. And we would encourage you to do that if you're going to be there. Try to stick around for Sunday services

[C]

because sadly, our plane leaves, so we have to.

[A]

Yeah, we got a flight. We got to get back to back here because I've got doctor's appointments today after. But if you cannot be in Dayton or Brookville for the conference. And I believe there are still seats available, so you can still. You still have time to register. But streaming video is available, and they do a great job with the video stream. The production values very high. They've got a really good media team there at Harvest Revival Center. Carl gallups, Carl Teichrib, Dr. Greg Reed, Dr. J.B. hickson, Mark Musser, Tom Hughes, Olivier Melnick, and of course, Dr. Mike Spalding is putting it. Putting on the conference. And we know because we have connections that our good friends Kenny C. And Vicki Joy Anderson will also be at the conference.

[B]

They're not speaking, but they are going to be there.

[A]

Right. And we now can confirm that we will have merch at the conference.

[B]

Yeah. Yeah. The Andersons were kind enough. They're driving, so they are taking stuff for us. So we are going to have a crazy sale. Everything on the table. Each item will only be $10, regardless of the manufactured retail price, so that. No, no, everything. $10 each. So come up and. And plan on taking some merch back.

[A]

Yeah, we just figured it was just easier.

[B]

We're going to the T shirts.

[A]

Yeah, T shirts, which normally are 30.

[B]

30. Yeah, I think you're right.

[A]

So. Yeah. And we will have some of the new Iron and Myth shirts. So Kenny is going to.

[B]

They also will only be 10, so.

[A]

Yeah. So bring a bag, a large bag.

[B]

Yep.

[A]

Bring your UPS account information so you can ship back from the church.

[B]

Seriously, you can do that if you want to.

[A]

Information and [e-mail] gothereforconference.com got my presentation ready and include some drone video footage.

[B]

Oh, great. Well, you want to stream that if you can't make it there. And two weekends later, very quickly after we get back, we're going to be here shortly and then suddenly go back again to Springfield.

[A]

Yes, it's the remnant rising 2.0 conference. That'll be at the Oasis Hotel and Conference center in Springfield, Missouri, just off Interstate 44, just 10 minutes west of the new BUC EE's, which it's not so new anymore. I actually stopped there a Couple of years ago. So it's been, I guess, relatively new, but you can't miss it when you're coming out. 44. Each Buc ee's has its own zip code, I think, pretty much. And I think there's a prize that they're offering. If you can identify how many BUC EE's Kenny C. Will stop at between Virginia and Missouri, there should be. Yeah. And I don't think all of them is the correct answer. I think you actually need to give a number. But this will be a great gathering. Kenny C. Will be speaking.

[B]

Speaking.

[A]

Vicki Joy Anderson will be speaking as well. Tony Merkel, host of the confessionals. John pounders. Need to text him today. Host of now you see tv. Dave Hodges of the common sense show. Josh Tolley. Pastor Larry ragland.

[C]

I know.

[B]

We love him.

[A]

Yep. David Paxton. Love him as well. Patrick McCurdy who we met last year for the first time and really hit it off. He's a. His ministry is to first responders because sometimes those folks, whether they're fire or police, sometimes have to see things that no, nobody should ever have to see.

[B]

They suffer. Ptsd.

[A]

Yeah. And that is. That is his mission field. So looking forward to hearing from Jamie Walden, who is a retired u. S. Marine. You never say ex marine, but boy, when he. He's up there preaching, he is a firecracker. So we're looking forward to that. That'll be August 7th through 9th, if you can be there. Great. It's a wonderful facility. And if not, streaming video is available herethewatchmen.com if you're planning on coming, you better register soon because there are only a few seats left available.

[B]

Oh, yeah. And please go there and see the whole. Everybody who's going to be speaking because I'm not sure. Sure that you mentioned everybody. Did you mention Tracy Tennant?

[A]

I did not. No.

[B]

See, that's. That's when you start.

[A]

David Paxton. Right.

[B]

You always run the risk of leaving somebody. You already said Paxton. But. But Ashley Schrader. Exactly. So if we've left anybody out, we apologize. Just go there. You can also look at our calendar on Gilberthouse.org calendar.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

And you will see all of the places we're going to be. And we'll take you to the websites where you'll see all of the speakers.

[A]

Yeah. And I need to update that because I've still got Joe horn. And Joe is because of.

[B]

Well, it's at the website here. The watchman.com.

[A]

yeah, they've. They've got it correct. They do, don't don't trust me.

[B]

Glad they're in charge of that.

[A]

Herethewatchmen.com is the, is the website. And wait, there's more. If you're going to attend in person, use promo code Gilbert20. Gilbert20. And that'll save you $20 per in person registration.

[B]

And here's the great thing with that $20, you can go to Hertz Donut here in Springfield and you can buy some cinnamon rolls that I have it on good authority from Hertz Donut themselves, they do not use diarrhea lettuce in any of their products.

[A]

They posted that. I think there was a branch book. The Branson location was the one that posted it.

[C]

But it was hilarious.

[A]

I'm pretty sure that applies to all the Hertz Donut locations.

[B]

And we said that we'd be up there to check that out tomorrow.

[A]

Yeah, because we're going to be in Springfield tomorrow.

[B]

Going up there today and then you

[C]

have your first infusion tomorrow. Which gets us into the og.

[A]

That is true, yes. The OG Report. The intravenous immunoglobulin treatments begin tomorrow. This is something my neurologist has been pushing for since December.

[B]

So finally you get to have it. And we will see. I believe that the Lord is. I think this may be why the Lord has told us to take our house off the market, that you are going to get better from this.

[A]

I think you're right and I think we mentioned this last week on PID radio. But if we didn't mention it here last week, we did make the decision to take our house back off the market. We had a couple of offers and sadly they fell apart. Fell through. It just feels like the right time because of the difficulty it would be to keep the house showroom ready while having to spend two consecutive days every three weeks away from home. And with the conferences coming up next weekend and two weekends after that, it just felt like the right thing. Take our house off the market. Everything that we've read is that this particular treatment, the IVIg is the first line protocol for CIDP, which is the acronym for what I've got. I should begin to see a reversal in symptoms within a month or so. Well, we'll find out after the second treatment. Don't even put a timestamp on it.

[B]

Just the Lord will take care of it.

[A]

Right. There is a young man I've been communicating with who's got CIDP who's been. Sadly, he's had to been treated for this for a couple of decades now

[B]

and he's it doesn't cure it.

[A]

A couple of decades younger than me. No. This is something that I'll live with for the rest of my life, but it keeps it manageable. So that is the plan going forward. I should. Our prayer is that this is what it should be, based on what we've been reading, that I will see a reversal of these symptoms and a restoration of some of my physical capabilities.

[B]

And I will say again, we do not limit the Lord in his response. If he chooses to cure you, then we will rejoice and we will give all honor and praise to him for it.

[A]

Amen.

[B]

If he does not, we will still rejoice and give him all honor and praise. Because of his choice, his choices are always for our benefit. The assumption is, and we just read

[C]

it, the assumption is that, oh, only if you treat us nice.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Does that mean that we're in favor with you? You know, sometimes he brings things into

[B]

our lives because he's trying to either correct something in our lives, strengthen us for difficulties ahead that the fallen realm is trying to do to us, or he's trying to show the loyal angels and the disloyal angels something about us.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

And his relationship to us.

[A]

Yeah. And that can be difficult. I mean, we often think that God is supposed to give us what we want, but what we want is often not what we need.

[B]

He's not a genie in a bottle.

[A]

He is not.

[B]

We don't rub a lamp and go,

[C]

oh, you know, Lord, you're a lamp into my feet.

[B]

And so I'm going to rub that lamp and you're going to give me one.

[C]

No, it doesn't work that way.

[A]

Yeah. And by his stripes, we. We are healed. Doesn't necessarily mean physically healed. It means we are spiritually.

[B]

Amen. Yeah, that is it.

[C]

We have been spiritually healed.

[A]

That's it.

[C]

And we are not promised perfect bodies until he calls us home.

[A]

Amen. Amen. So that is. That is the OG report. That will be. We'll keep you posted on that as we go forward because already got my appointment for the second set of treatments, which will be just after we get back from the contest.

[B]

I know we've got a busy few weeks, so. Questions? You said we had a question.

[A]

We do, actually. Let me bring that up here. This is from Vlad. Who?

[B]

Vlad.

[A]

I am reliably informed because he sent me an email as well. It's Vladimir.

[B]

Oh, Ukrainian.

[A]

So the Ukrainian form. Yes. And Vlad, forgive me if you're not Ukrainian and I've got your ethnicity incorrect. Just the spelling is the same as Mr. Zelensky's first name, but he goes by Vlad. I am somewhat perplexed at the possibility of a certain fallen entity having various names. The primary one being Shemyaza, as seen in the Book of Enoch. The spelling appears to be different for the same being. Does this fall in angel? Yeah, depending on how it's translated. It looks like Shem Jaza in the older R.H. charles translation.

[B]

But the J is pronounced as a Y. Yeah.

[A]

And it is Transliterated by George W.E. nickelsberg in the more recent Hermania translation as Shemi Haza, which roughly translates as the name has seen.

[B]

Yes, but if it's S H E M I. Yeah. Then that I is pronounced like a Y.

[A]

S H E M I H, a

[B]

Z, A Y. Shemihaza.

[A]

Yeah, Shemihaza.

[B]

So it's. If you. I can't do exactly the same way if you pronounce the I's Y. Anyway, it's. It's trying to transliterate from an Alphabet that's not like ours.

[A]

Yes. Which has a lot of glottal stuff in it, which we English speakers don't use. Anyway. Does this fallen angel go by varying names, excluding Greek Roman pantheon identifications? Thank you for your time and consideration. Yes, Vlad, I argued in the book the second coming of Saturn, and I realized that is the Roman pantheon designation. But I argued that this entity was known as Saturn, Enlil in Sumer and Babylon, as Elil in Ekad, as El by the Canaanites, Milcom of the Ammonites. So in other words, it's Molech of the Hebrews, Asher of the Assyrians, Dagon of the Philistines and the Amorites. So, yes, that is the. And yes, brought into the Christian and relatively modern era as Allah, as the etymology of Allah is Al Ilah, meaning the God Elil of the Akkadians is Il ilu, meaning God of Gods or God of all the gods. Same entity in all of these various identities connected with the netherworld and often human, if not child sacrifice. So that is who I believe we're talking about when it comes to Shemyaza. I also believe this entity is the one who comes out at the end in Revelation 9 as Abaddon or Apollyon the Destroyer. And you can find all of that argument. It's multiple chapters spread across the second coming of Saturn. But the Mount of Olives is part of the evidence there, as it was referred to as the Mount of the Destroyer in the time of Solomon because of the high place for Molech that King Solomon put up there. So thank you for your question, Vlad. That was an interesting one. Again, this is not something that's explicit in the Bible, but I would also point out that this entity is mentioned in the Bible, just hidden because we don't often understand the references. El is mentioned, but it's often interpreted as God instead of El, the God of the Canaanites. Dagon, of course, gets mentioned because of the, you know, Samson, the Samson story, but also the story where the Philistines stole the Ark of the Covenant and the statue of Dagon fell and his arms and his hands were. His head and hands were cut off. So, yeah, a very important entity whose importance in the Bible has sort of been hidden by the way the English translation renders it. So if you've got a question for us, you can leave it for us, either through the app, the sections that refer to questions for Sharon, questions for Derek, or by sending us an [e-mail]

[B]

so we should pray. Yeah.

[A]

Father, thank you for thank you for the lessons today. And Lord, we are grateful that you have preserved your word, both the Masoretic text and the Septuagint, Lord, which help us to. Try to understand better the original intent of your revelation through the prophets. Father, we ask for wisdom not only to understand your word better, but how to apply it to our lives. And Lord, we. Are thankful that we can still do this openly without fear of government intervention here in the United States, because we know that there are places in this world, even in the west, where preaching or praying in public is now becoming a violation of law. Father, we pray for the boldness to continue to share the hope that we have in you with gentleness and respect. Lord, help us to be good ambassadors for you, Lord, rather than condemning those who have not yet accepted you, just remembering that you sacrificed yourself for us long before we chose to accept you. Knowing, Father, that even after we placed our faith in you that we would fail, which we do daily. As the apostle John wrote, if we say we have no sin, we deceive ourselves and the truth is not in us. Lord, may we honor your with our thoughts, our words and our deeds. May we reflect the light and the love that you have shown us to those around us. And Father, may your will be done in this world as we know it will. May we have the strength and the courage, Father, to walk according to your will until your return or the day we're called home. Father, we pray for your blessing for those who are in need financially, physically, spiritually, those in need of family healing. Father. We pray, Father, for our elected officials that they would be drawn to live according to your will and to rule justly. But Father, we know that true justice and lasting peace will not come until you arrive at the head of the heavenly host. So, Lord, we pray for that day to come soon. And again we ask for the spirit, your spirit, to grant us the courage to live according to your will until that day. We ask this in Jesus name, Amen.

[B]

Amen.

[A]

Tonight on a view from the Bunker, it's Iron and myth, episode 52, Frankenstein and the Bible.

[B]

Oh, good one.

[A]

Yes. Our friend Leo says, I don't know how you're going to get anything about Frankenstein out of the Bible.

[B]

Oh, no, it's all over the place.

[A]

Yeah, it's. There's stuff in there. So, Judd Burton, Doug Van Doren, Brian Godella, join me to discuss Frankenstein and the Bible tonight, 7:00pm you'll find that on our YouTube channel, YouTube.comilberthouse or of course, in the app, 7:00pm Central Time tonight. And until next time, remembering that we will not be here next week because we'll be in Ohio. I'm Derek Gilbert.

[B]

I'm Sharon Gilbert. We love you guys so very much. And the Lord Jesus Christ died for you. He loves you that much. Bye bye, everybody.

[A]

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