Repentance of the Gentiles

Summary

Podcast Summary: Gilbert House Fellowship – "Repentance of the Gentiles"
March 29, 2026 | Hosts: Derek & Sharon Gilbert

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Episode Overview

This Palm Sunday, Derek and Sharon Gilbert present a deep-dive into the theme of repentance for Gentiles, centering their discussion on Chapter 50 of First Enoch ("Book of Parables" or "Similitudes"), its links to biblical prophecy, messianic expectations, radical inclusivity, and spiritual transformation. The episode is suffused with the Gilberts’ characteristic blend of scholarly insight, historical context, and lively banter, all delivered from their living room in the Missouri Ozarks.

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Key Discussion Points

1. Messianic Prophecy & Palm Sunday Roots

[00:27–03:08]

• Palm Sunday’s fulfillment of Daniel’s prophecy (to the exact day), referencing Sir Robert Anderson’s calculations without the aid of computers.
• The symbolism of Jesus riding a donkey into Jerusalem is explained through ANE (Ancient Near East) culture, contrasting donkey (royalty/peace) vs. horse (war).
  • Quote: "Here comes the king. And that's why they went out to meet him with the palm branches." – Derek [02:22]

2. The Book of First Enoch’s Unique Messianic Vision

[03:09–06:55]

• The Gilberts discuss the "Book of Parables" (First Enoch 37-71) as a key Essene work, likely written just before Jesus’ birth, containing prophecies about the Messiah that echo themes found in Daniel and Isaiah.
• Notably, the term "Son of Man" and other messianic expectations are said to have deep roots in First Enoch and Essene thought.
  • Quote: "The chapter we're about to get into... was written just before the birth of John the Baptist and Jesus himself, which is why this is so exciting to read..." – Derek [06:29]

3. Accessing Resources & Honoring Mentors

[04:13–08:05]

• Acknowledgment of Dr. Michael Heiser’s work and available study resources on First Enoch.
• Promoting the Gilbert House Fellowship app and the value of interviews with other prophecy scholars.

4. Prayer for the Middle East and Global Tensions

[08:14–12:04]

• With real-time missile alerts in Israel, Derek prays for Jews, Christians, and Muslims affected by conflict, recognizing the escalation towards a possible World War III-like scenario and emphasizing that these conditions are biblical signs.

5. Diving into First Enoch 50: Repentance, The "Others," and Radical Inclusion

[12:07–29:10]

• Enoch 50 is interpreted as remarkably radical: It posits that "the others" (Gentiles and non-Essene Jews) will be given a chance for repentance and inclusion.
• A lively debate about translation variances ("they will have no honor" vs. "they will have honor") and the theological shock this would have caused to strict Essene (and contemporary Jewish) thought.
  • Quote: "And in his name they will be saved. And the Lord of spirits will have compassion on them, for his compassion is great." – Sharon [22:06]
  • "This is radical. Absolutely radical." – Sharon [23:13]
• The connection between Enoch, John the Baptist’s message, and the new doctrine of repentance without temple sacrifice is emphasized.
  • Quote: "What I can just believe... That's what John was teaching. And that salvation was not restricted first of all to the Jews or to the Essenes." – Sharon & Derek [26:12–26:15]
• Reference to geographic sites (Bethsaida, megalithic sites) and their spiritual context in Jesus' and John's ministries.

6. Creation’s Transformation & The Messiah’s Pre-existence

[29:10–36:19]

• Metaphors of renewal (mountains leaping, earth rejoicing) are explored as imagery for cosmic joy and the restoration of creation.
• The Messiah ("the Chosen/Elect One") is depicted as pre-existent, sitting on God's throne and possessing all wisdom—a Christological foreshadowing.
  • Quote: "And the elect one shall, in those days, sit on my throne. And his mouth shall pour forth all the secrets of wisdom and counsel..." – Sharon [33:00]

7. Speculation on Spiritual Geography & Portals

[36:19–47:37]

• Extended speculation on ancient portals, megalithic sites (Gilgal Refa’im), and the motif of whirlwind as a portal to other realms, paralleling Elijah’s ascent (2 Kings 2:11).
• Interplay of archaeological, anthropological, and biblical data; referencing counterclockwise ritual dance, spiritual warfare, and the multidimensional reality of "the mountains."

8. Mountains, Metals, and Cosmic Conflict

[47:37–54:30]

• Discussion of the symbolic nature of mountains and metals in the text—not just physical, but representative of spiritual forces.
• All earthly riches and powers (gold, silver, iron, etc.) will be destroyed before the Messiah's return.
• The elite's reliance on wealth or technology (transhumanism) will not save them.
  • Quote: "You cannot. Money, possessions will not save you. Transhumanism will not save you." – Sharon [52:56]

9. Chains and the Hosts of Azazel

[56:05–59:41]

• Enoch's vision continues into judgment: chains prepared for the hosts of Azazel (fallen angels), a tie-in to Genesis 6 and spiritual rebellion.
• Discrepancies in Enoch translations discussed, particularly how Jay Winter’s version diverges from R.H. Charles.

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Notable Quotes

• "Here comes the king. And that's why they went out to meet him with the palm branches." – Derek [02:22]
• "And in his name they will be saved. And the Lord of spirits will have compassion on them, for his compassion is great." – Sharon [22:06]
• "This is radical. Absolutely radical." – Sharon [23:13]
• "What I can just believe... That's what John was teaching. And that salvation was not restricted first of all to the Jews or to the Essenes." – Sharon & Derek [26:12–26:15]
• "You cannot. Money, possessions will not save you. Transhumanism will not save you." – Sharon [52:56]
• "And the elect one shall, in those days, sit on my throne. And his mouth shall pour forth all the secrets of wisdom and counsel..." – Sharon [33:00]

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Timestamps of Important Segments

| Time | Segment | |--------------|--------------------------------------------------------------------| | 00:27–03:08 | Palm Sunday, Daniel’s prophecy, symbolism of donkeys and horses | | 03:09–07:10 | Introduction to Book of First Enoch and its prophetic significance | | 08:14–12:04 | Prayer for Jerusalem and Middle East during missile attacks | | 12:07–29:10 | Verse-by-verse study: Enoch 50, radical Gentile inclusion | | 29:10–36:19 | Creation’s renewal, Messiah’s pre-existence | | 36:19–47:37 | Portals, ancient ritual, spiritual geography | | 47:37–54:30 | Mountains and metals as spiritual symbolism | | 56:05–59:41 | Judgment of Azazel and hosts, Enoch translation discussion |

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Engaging Moments & Running Commentary

• Sharon breaks into song referencing Jesus Christ Superstar [02:27] in an energetic nod to pop culture's interpretation of Caiaphas.
• The Gilberts share anecdotes about their own health, podcasting origins, and the value of supernatural thrillers and theological scholarship.
• Sharon draws connections between First Enoch, Isaiah, and Mendelssohn's Elijah, revealing the intricate web of biblical themes in music and apocrypha [15:57–16:35].
• Spontaneous, unscripted research moments, such as Bible verse lookups and speculation about ancient portals, demonstrate their process.

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Original Tone and Style

• Warm, conversational, scholarly yet approachable, sometimes humorous.
• Emphasis on accessible theology for listeners, connecting ancient texts to modern spiritual application.
• Faith-centered, occasionally speculative, always aiming to encourage and equip believers.

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Conclusion

In "Repentance of the Gentiles," Derek and Sharon Gilbert make a compelling case for the radical grace and mercy present even in extra-biblical Jewish writings on the Messiah, showing how these paved the way for the Christian Gospel’s inclusivity. The episode blends rich biblical context, spiritual insight, intertextual connections, and real-world application—timely considering geopolitical instability—offering listeners historical depth and present-day hope.

Next Month: The study continues with First Enoch chapters 53–54 and the fate of spiritual rebels.

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For access to notes, resources, and archives, visit GilbertHouse.org.

Transcript

[A]

From the beautiful Missouri Ozarks, it's the Gilbert House fellowship for Sunday, March 29, 2026. I'm Derek Gilbert.

[B]

I am Sharon Gilbert. And welcome to our living room, everyone. And a very blessed Palm Sunday to all of you.

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Amen. Amen. A day that was prophesied by Daniel. To the day.

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To the very day.

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Yes.

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And thank you, Sir Robert Anderson, for checking up on that.

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Right.

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Back in the day when there were no computers.

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Yes. Having to calculate it all by hand. And thanks also back in the day to the Royal Astronomer in at Greenwich. Greenwich. Yes. For calculating from the first of Nisan in the year 444 B.C. when Artaxerxes commanded Nehemiah to go rebuild the wall, rebuild the temple, and then from there, 70 weeks or 69.

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Yes.

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Prophetic years, 360 day years led to Palm Sunday, the very day the Lord

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riding upon a donkey, a colt.

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And that was significant because in the ancient near east, because a culture that had been dominated by the Amorites from really the time of Abraham, and even a little earlier than that, say around 2000 BC, began the age of the Amorites. And even after they kind of shuffled off the historical stage after really the exodus around 1400 BC, what they imposed on that culture, the Canaanites, later the Phoenicians, in that world, riding a donkey was a symbol of royalty. Riding a horse, which is kind of what we expect here in America, thanks to the cowboys. And the fact that the horses were noble steeds for racing and for warriors. No, no. Back in the day, that was very clear to the people of Jerusalem. Here comes the king. And that's why they went out to meet him with the palm branches.

[B]

And I think it was also clear

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to the Sanhedrin too. It's like, oh, really now?

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Oh, yeah. I love in Jesus Christ Superstar, the way they all sing this song. He is dangerous. I can't sing alone like Caiaphas.

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Yeah, you can't. Caiaphas, the guy who played it on the recording.

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Oh, I know. Isn't that wonderful?

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Yeah.

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But here's the thing. Let us remember when the Lord came the first time into Jerusalem, he was riding a donkey.

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Right.

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When he comes, next time he'll be riding.

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And in the ancient near east, riding a horse was what soldiers did.

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He's leading an army.

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And that is the reason for the difference. He's not riding a colt. When he comes back a donkey, he's riding a horse.

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Yep.

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And today, as this is the last Sunday of the month, and if you've been following us for a little while. Thank you. We appreciate that. We also encourage you to get our mobile app because it's an easy way to go back through the archives because it's all right there. There's a wonderful media player built into our app. Thank you to the developer, subsplash. But on the last Sunday of the month, we have been going through the Book of First Enoch. We know it's not in the Bible and it's not supposed to be in the Bible because there are some internal contradictions. But there are also some sections, which is the one we're in right now, that are prophetically significant because they prophesied the coming of Messiah.

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Exactly.

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For the first time.

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Exactly. And there are some videos and I think there's Star. Star Trek. Yes. There's Star Trek video, there's Skywatch TV videos that. An interview with Dr. Michael Heiser where he talks about First Enoch being very important to help understand prophecy and in particular, the Book of Daniel.

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Yes, Daniel. Donna Howell has been going back through archived videos going back to when I was the host of the program back in 2016, 2017. I think this is around 2017, when Mike had produced his Reader's companion to the Book of Enoch, which we highly recommend. And in fact, in the study notes below, whether you're watching or listening, there's a link to a special offer that is still available at the Skywatch TV store to get both his Volume one and Volume two that Mike put out, along with the Book of Enoch, the RH Charles translation, and I believe also a DVD with Mike talking to Steven Bankars.

[B]

Oh, my goodness.

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And a number of other things. So you can get all of that for a very special price from the Skywatch TV store. And although I am no longer employed by Skywatch tv, we still sit on the panel. We support their work and the work that they do, which is to support Whispering Ponies Ranch.

[B]

You just had to retire because of health reasons.

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Health reasons. No other reason than that. But anyway, this is why we're going through First Yaka. And I'm really glad that they went back to show those videos. And I've been sharing them around on Instagram and on Facebook. It's really wonderful to see those again. You know, sitting there on the panel with Mike.

[B]

I know in the old studio.

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Those are. Yeah, we do miss him. But at the time I was not really aware. It's only been the last few years. And I write about this in the forthcoming book War of the Watchers and the significance of the section of First Enoch that We're in right now, which is called the Book of Parables. Recent scholarship has shown that this section, chapters 37 to 71, was written by the Essenes in the community near the ancient town of Magdala, where Mary Magdalene was from northwest coast shore. Not coast, northwest shore of the Sea of Galilee. And whoops, got to put my stuff back on. Do not disturb alerts are coming through as we're recording this. More red alerts coming in in Israel from missile attacks. Excuse me. Part of the autoimmune thing I deal with is the vocal cords and, you know, stuff on the cords. Anyway, this section was written just before the birth of John the Baptist and Jesus himself, which is why this is so exciting to read, because new doctrines for Jews were contained in these writings that later, when Jesus was ministering, his followers were familiar with, such as the term the Son of Man.

[B]

We take for granted that it just came from a couple of times in the old testament.

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Daniel 7. Right.

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It. That's. It says like a son of man.

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Right. Oh, look, there's a human up there with the ancient of days.

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No, this is a title.

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Right.

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Son of man, capital S. Limb.

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Right. And so we'll dive into this again and again. I'm really excited about this because the chapter we're about to get into, depending on which version you're reading. We'll talk about this in a moment.

[B]

But by the way, I just want to also say that on the app, there are wonderful things that you can do on the app. One of them is there's a Bible that you can listen to or read. There is a way to search by guest, so you can get into our archives by searching for Heiser or Horn or Marzulli Flynn. Marzulli. Yep. So many great guests because we've been doing this for 21 years.

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Yeah. And we were blessed in 2011 through 2014 before we really got too busy doing our own presentations to interview many of the speakers at the Prophecy Watchers Conferences. And so you'll find some really fascinating guests. Joel Richardson had the opportunity to talk with the founder and CEO of WorldNet Daily, Joseph Farah, and many others at these conferences. So all of that is in the app. And you can, as Sharon said, you can do a search for a particular speaker that you're interested in. Researcher, author, prophecy expert. And we learned from them, which is why we do what we do now. But that foundation was formed by the podcast. And who do we want to talk to next? I know, and God bless these guys for being willing back in the day when many people had never even heard the term podcast. I know, 2005, 6, 7. To take time out of their schedule and get on the phone and talk to us. So open with a word of prayer. Father, we first of all, as we see these red alerts coming across our screens this morning as we record, we pray for the peace of Jerusalem. We pray for the safety of those who have been living under missile barrages now for a full month. But beyond that, going back to the very beginning of Israel, as homes in recent years, as part of the building codes in Israel have to be built with bomb shelters inside their homes, we in the Western world have no concept of what it is to live that way. So, Father, we pray for our friends in Israel, Jews and Christians, Lord, and we pray for those Arab Muslims who are living in areas that are likewise under attack, but whose homes do not have those shelters. The missiles coming at them from the north and from the east are not so precise that they can differentiate between Arab and Jew, Muslim and Jew Christian. Father, we just pray for a swift resolution to this conflict. We pray for the people of Iran, Lord, that they may free themselves from the rule of the Islamic regime. Lord, we pray for peace as we see other nations entering into this conflict. Ukraine offering anti drone drones to Arab Gulf leaders. Russia offering drones to Iran. Father, this is becoming a regional conflict, in fact, the early stages of what increasingly looks like World War three. But Father, we know you have seen this from the very beginning of time. And may we take this as the opportunity to speak to our anxious families and friends, to let them know that all of this has been foreseen. That when we see wars and rumors of war, nation or ethnos rising against ethnos, to tell them that this was prophesied by Jesus himself and to look up because it means he is returning, his return is drawing near. So, Lord, as we study today, we ask you to grant us wisdom, help us to understand to the best of our ability what we read and how it applies to us today. And we ask this in Jesus name. Amen.

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Amen.

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Well, again we read from a couple of different versions here of the. Of the book of first Enoch. This again written in the last quarter and perhaps even the last decade of the first century bc. This is called the Book of the Watchers, the Book of Parables. The Book of the watchers, the first 36 chapters which describes the sin of the fallen Watchers, the sons of God in Genesis, chapter six, the Book of Parables prophesying the return of one who will bring God's judgment upon an unrepentant world. And last month, when we studied the last time we did the book of first Enoch, because I think last month I was still recovering.

[B]

You were in the hospital?

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Yeah, I was recovering. Yeah. I just got out of the hospital on February 25th. So I don't think we did anything last that following weekend. But back in January, we had gotten to the section where the Son of Man is named before the Lord of spirits and before the beginning of time. So now we are in chapter 50. If you're reading in the RH Charles or the newer Hermonia translation, or the James Charlesworth translation or the J.

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Winter translation, I am reading different along in the Jay Winter. Yeah. It is different chapter headings.

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Right.

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The translation is very similar, but it's those chapter headings that are just so strange.

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And in the Jay Winter, this would be what chapter?

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I think two, verse 35. Let me back up and see. Yeah. Chapter two, second parable, verse 35.

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Yeah. And the reason we, you know, Sharon's reading the Jay Winter is because Dr. J. Winter did his translation. He imposed his own chapter divisions. But it is available for free.

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It is. And that's what I tried to do, find free sources.

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Right. And we do have those linked again in the study notes below, where you can find the PDF version of the Jay Winter translation that he's posted to the web. We've also got a link to a free PDF version of the RH Charles translation. And there's another. There's a website out there that has a translation that goes back even beyond. Even earlier than RH Charles.

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That's so really old.

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Yeah. So we look to try to. Again to compare the Hermenea translation is what I'm reading from. This is George W.E. nickelsberg and James Vanderkamp. And they collated a number of available texts, the Ethiopic text, the Syriac, and some Greek texts to try to triangulate on a. On what was the original aramaic. So chapter 50 of the book.

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Okay. Before you start, I wanted to look something up.

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Okay.

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Because in. Yeah, I found it. It's in Isaiah 11, verse 2. If you back up a couple of verses in 1st Enoch, you will see in the J. Winter and in him, capital H. And in him dwells the Spirit of wisdom and the Spirit, which gives insight, and the Spirit of understanding and of might, and the Spirit of those who have fallen asleep in righteousness in Isaiah 11. And the Spirit of Yahweh shall rest upon him. The Spirit of Wisdom and understanding, the spirit of counsel and light, the spirit of knowledge and of the fear of Yahweh.

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Good catch. Those are the seven spirits before the Lord.

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Now let me tell you why I remembered that. Because it's in Elijah.

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Elijah, the oratorio. Yeah.

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I have listened to Elijah so many. It's all scripture, nothing but scripture. And so I was reading this and I thought, hold on, that's in Elijah. So. And because Elijah is more than just the book of Elijah, it's a lot of different. He Mendelssohn pulled from a lot of different biblical Old Testament sources. But yeah, it is exactly that.

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Yeah, yeah.

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The seven spirits.

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So they took that. And of course, in the book of first Enoch, they refer to God Yahweh as the Lord of spirits. Yeah. And there was a reference there to. Yeah, they have denied the Lord of spirits and his anointed one, his Messiah. That's 1st Enoch 48, the final verse, verse 10. Clearly the Essenes knew their Isaiah.

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Or here's another thought, they read the Old Testament. Well, they may have been inspired. We don't know.

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Right.

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If all in the original language, if all of their writings were inspired. But this definitely reflects Isaiah.

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Yeah. And. And the title, the Son of Man certainly was inspired by Daniel, chapter seven and the one like a son of man who was at the right hand of the ancient of days, at the right hand of Yah.

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Right. And this was sort of a way that they would refer to Messiah, that he was going to be coming. They were looking for him, which is why the Lord asks Peter, who do you say? Who do they say the Son of Man is?

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Right. That was something that the Essenes had been looking for. They had calculated. They used the 70 weeks prophecy to mean 490 years. And the Essenes were looking at a 364 day calendar, a solar calendar, they called the lunar calendar apostate, basically. But they were counting the 490 years from the destruction of the temple by Nebuchadnezzar. So they had been looking for Messiah at the time of this writing for almost 100 years.

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Yeah.

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And he hadn't come. And he hadn't come because they were

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using a solar calendar.

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They were, yeah. But the messianic expectation was very high. And so it's speculated again, the scholars who are looking at this are not necessarily looking at it from a biblical perspective, but saying that the book of Parables was perhaps the Essenes way of saying, don't worry, Messiah is still coming, even even though our calculations were off. In fact, when Herod the Great led an army backed by Mark Antony in Rome. Yes, that Mark Anthony. They thought Herod. And this would be around the year 36 B.C. i think he drove out the Parthians. And they thought Herod might be the Messiah. No, until Herod started doing things that were very non. Messiah like. Yeah, getting kind of murdery. Okay. First Enoch 50, and in J. Winter, chapter 2, verse 35. In those days, a change will occur for the holy and chosen. And the light of many days will dwell upon them. Put some footnote there. One manuscript, according to Nickelsberg, reads the Ancient of Days.

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Did you finish the verse?

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No. And the light of many days will dwell upon them. And glory and honor will return to the holy.

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Okay.

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On the day of distress, evil will be stored up against the sinners. And the righteous, when they refer to the righteous and the holy and chosen, they're actually talking about themselves, the Essenes, because they were set apart from everybody else. Well, again, remember, Essene derives from the Aramaic form of. Or from the Greek form of the Aramaic, Hassan, Hassanoi, which is derived from Hasidic, meaning the pious ones.

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Yes.

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So that's where they see themselves. And the righteous will conquer in the name of the Lord of spirits. And he will show this to the others. Now, this is the key phrase here. The others, the Essenes, were talking about everybody else.

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Gentiles.

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Gentiles, but also non Essene Jews. So basically, everybody but the Essenes. And he will show this to the others so that they repent and abandon the works of their hands. And they will have honor in the presence of the Lord of spirits. And in his name they will be saved.

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Yes, it's very similar. In the winter, he will cause the others to witness that they may repent and forego the works of their hands. Then in verse 37. They shall have no honor through the name of the Lord of spirits, yet through his.

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They shall have no honor.

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That's what it says. I know. And I think it means that.

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Oh, well, you know, the RH Charles and the James Charlesworth also read the same.

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Let me. Let me read the whole verse. They shall have no honor through the name of the Lord of the spirits, yet through his name. Think. Hashem.

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Yeah.

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Shall they be saved through his name. And the Lord of spirits will have compassion on them, for his compassion is great. And I think what it might mean here when it says they shall have no honor in themselves. They have sinned, but they will forego these works of their hands. And possibly by that it also means the works of their hands, as in idolatry.

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Nicholsburg and Vanderkam add a footnote to that phrase where they. Where they translated will have honor.

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That makes more sense to us.

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Yeah, but he says most manuscripts read not have honor. And then they add this, the easier and more suspicious reading, which is why they translated. And they will have honor in the presence of the Lord of spirits.

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That makes more sense.

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It kind of does. And in his name they will be saved. And the Lord of spirits will have mercy on them, for great is his mercy.

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This is radical. Absolutely radical.

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Yes. Yes. And this is the basis for John the Baptist baptizing a baptism of repentance for the forgiveness of sins.

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Exactly.

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Because this. This was not only a radical change from what had been taught from the time of Moses that you had to go to the temple and offer sacrifices, sin offering, in order to be forgiven. This also would be radical. And this is why. This is why scholars believe this section was not written at Qumran, where the other. There was a split around the year 100 BC, roughly 75 to 90 years before this was written. And a group went from the north, which is where most of the Essenes were gathered, to Qumran and set themselves up near the Dead Sea. It's like the Essenes in the north are too liberal. So we're going to separate from everybody and go to Qumran. Because at Qumran, the Essenes would have said, what? These others are going to get saved. No way. And they're going to get saved from. By repenting. No, no, no. The only way to repent and the only way to be saved is to

[B]

follow all of our rules, is through blood sacrifice.

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Blood sacrifice and all of our rules.

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And they don't see it here that his name, Hashem, the Son of man, would shed his blood. This is how they would be saved. They don't quite have it in here yet that that happens, but had to have been a major surprise. Even this.

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Yeah.

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Hold on. Not only do we get salvation, but you're saying these others get it too?

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Yes. Again, that. That's why they're saying, no, no, this didn't come from Qumran. In fact, no copy of First Enoch, chapters 37 to 71, the book of Parables, has ever been found at Qumran. Because at Qumran they would have said, no, no, this is heresy.

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Yep.

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Yeah. This is not going to work. This is not what God told us. But this is why In John chapter 1, you see the Jews, John 1, verse 19, the Jews sent priests and Levites from Jerusalem to ask him, who are you? They were there because he was preaching this baptism of repentance.

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Yeah.

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For forgiveness. And people like you mean I can just change the way I think and behave and I'll be forgiven. I don't have to follow all of these rules.

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What I can actually just believe.

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Yeah.

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What.

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That's what John was teaching. And that salvation was not restricted first of all to the Jews or to the Essenes. Although the Essenes were the ones who wrote this.

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But they all see. Exactly. They wrote that others outside of themselves.

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John was preaching to the others. This was a radical change. And that's why the Jews who heard about this in Jerusalem and walked, you know, like 90 miles to get to where John was baptizing north of the Sea of Galilee, not near Jericho.

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If I won't say if when you go to Israel either with us or with someone else, we will try to put Betsy said on the that wonderful. It's like a park. You get to explore the. The area as. And you can imagine because it's very close to where John was baptizing. We would love to take you there. It depends upon the vegetation level when we go because you need to be able to see the kind of rocks.

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Yeah. A lot of basalt.

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Yeah.

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The rocks lying. And you can twist an ankle pretty easily.

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Very easy. It's that way at.

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Yeah. They really need to clear a path.

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I wish they would. It would be. People would just. Well, they would beat a path there.

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That megalithic site is so exciting now that we. It's half a mile from the ruins of Bethsaida where Peter, Andrew and Philip were from. The first three disciples called. There's no way that the people of Bethsaida didn't know that those ruins were there. The. The megalithic structure similar. Similar to Gilgal Refa' im on the bank of the Jordan river at a spot where the bank makes a natural theater that could hold thousands.

[B]

Yes. It is a gorgeous location. And at that time, more than likely the Kinneret, the Sea of Galilee came up closer to Bethsaida.

[A]

Yeah. Because it was a fishing village. Right. So again, mark this in your notes. First Enoch 50, verse 3, radical change basis for the ministry of John the Baptist. The others. I'm going to read this again. And they will or will not depending on. I think will will make sense. They will have honor in the presence of the Lord of spirits. And in his name they will be saved. And the Lord of spirits will have mercy on them. For great is his mercy again for religious Jews of the day, it's like what, verse 4. But he is righteous in his judgment and in the presence of his glory. Unrighteousness will not stand at his judgment. The unrepentant will perish in his presence.

[B]

I like the way it's put in the winter in. And he is righteous also in his judgment and the presence. And in the presence of his glory, unrighteousness shall not maintain itself.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

It just can't hold together.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

And that. I think that that means spirits as well. The rebel angels who they remember. The Lord Himself holds all things together.

[A]

Yes. So Colossians 1:17, I think sounds right. Yeah.

[B]

And if it's wrong, someone's shouting it out right now.

[A]

I'll look it up later. Yeah. And hereafter I will have no mercy on them, says the Lord of spirits.

[B]

And. And perhaps that's going back to the unrighteousness cannot maintain itself and he'll have no mercy on them. This is what we're. I'll tell you, this is prophetic. When he returns on that horse, there will be no mercy.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

For rebels, no mercy for the unrighteous. And this is not a works based thing.

[A]

No.

[B]

If you are covered by his blood, if you are marked by. By His Spirit.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

You are fine. And mercy is ours. In fact, his very judgment is called the mercy seat.

[A]

That's right. So now in the R.H. charles and other translations, we move to chapter 51. So I'll turn it over.

[B]

I'm still in chapter two and it's verse 40 for those following along in D.J. winter. And from henceforth I will have no mercy on them, saith the Lord of spirits. In those days shall the earth also give back that which has been entrusted to it. Sheol also will give back that which it has received. And hell shall give back that which it owes. They're going to empty themselves.

[A]

In other words, he's talking about resurrection. Not he, but yeah, yeah, yeah. The author. That's what's. That's what's going on here.

[B]

For in those days, the elect 1, capital E, capital O, shall arise.

[A]

Yes. Nickelsberg and Vanderkam translated as my Chosen one.

[B]

Well, back when you previously said the chosen, it said the elect in the winter. For in those days the elect one shall arise, and he, capital H. And he shall choose the righteous and holy from among them. Now we. I'll say again, this is not our righteousness. This is not our holiness. It is only through his righteousness and holiness that we can be saved. For the Day has drawn near that they should be saved. There's that word again, and it was a radical word.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

I love Donna Howell, who wrote a book called the Radicals, and she also talks about the messy ones.

[A]

Right.

[B]

That's us. We can't do anything to get ready.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Other than trust and believe in his righteousness.

[A]

And from the Essene standpoint, that would be the others, because, you know, we're not following all of their purification laws and all of their rituals and so forth.

[B]

And the elect one shall, in those days, sit on my throne.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And his mouth shall pour forth all the secrets of wisdom and counsel, for the Lord of spirits hath given to him and hath glorified him. Again, he's called wonderful. Counselor,

[A]

this. This is clear that the Essenes were talking about a character. And I don't mean that in the sense of, you know, a person. Yes, a person. Better word. Who is God? Because who else would have the authority to sit on the throne of God other than God himself? This chosen one. Again, as we. The last study we did on first Enoch showed that this character, this person, was given a name before the creation of the universe.

[B]

Pre. Existed.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

He's existing.

[A]

And the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

[B]

Exactly. He. He is everything else in the world outside of the Trinity.

[A]

Right.

[B]

They had no beginning and no ending. We. You have to picture it in your mind. We are a ray. We have a starting point.

[A]

Okay. All right.

[B]

That is a ray array, has a little dot and then an arrow.

[A]

Yeah. Talking in the mathematical sense, not in the New age sense of the seven,

[B]

or even in the physics sense. We have a starting point.

[A]

Right.

[B]

All of creation has a starting point. You can think of the. The. The Godhead as, frankly, a circle. There is no beginning and no ending.

[A]

Right. Yeah.

[B]

Or if you want to think of it as no point and just rays going either way. But I tend to think of it as a circle, because that way, I can see there is no ending and no beginning.

[A]

And similarly, there outside of time, where we are, you know, God. I mean, they. He, the triune Godhead. It's, you know, easy to mix the pronouns there, but it is a he.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Exists outside of time. Whereas we experience time in a linear fashion. Exactly as we are moving outward along that ray.

[B]

Right. All there. There is no time. Everything is now. Which is why he is called I am.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

I'll read this one again. And the electron shall, in those days, sit on my throne. And his mouth shall pour forth all the secrets of wisdom and counsel for the Lord of spirits hath given to him and hath glorified him. Won't that be wonderful? And in those days shall the mountains leap like rams, and the hills also shall skip like lambs satisfied with milk. And the faces of the angels in heaven shall be lighted up with joy. Think about that. All of creation is celebrating. And the earth shall rejoice, and the righteous shall dwell upon it, and the elect shall walk upon it.

[A]

So now we move to chapter 52.

[B]

Okay, let me just stop there, though.

[A]

Okay?

[B]

We are getting pictures, metaphors, mountains leaping. Mountains don't leap.

[A]

Yes, yes.

[B]

Hills don't skip.

[A]

Right.

[B]

But it's showing that all of creation is happy. But it's also saying that we will dwell upon the earth doesn't say we dwell in heaven. It says, and the earth shall rejoice, and the righteous shall dwell upon it, being the earth, and the elect shall walk upon it.

[A]

Yeah, good point. That's something that, you know, I wonder where the doctrine or the teaching came from, which is still, you know, commonly believed, that when we die, we'll go to heaven and we'll be sitting on fluffy clouds with little wings and playing harps and with halos over our heads.

[B]

I don't know.

[A]

None of that's in the Bible.

[B]

None of it is. But if you look at Renaissance paintings.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

It tends to show angels, in many cases as little cherubs with wings, little babies. That's not a cherub. A cherub is a scary thing. Don't mess with it.

[A]

Yeah. Looks more like a throne guardian, giant bull with wings with a human head. You know, that's the depiction in Enoch. I mean, not enoch, Ezekiel. Ezekiel 1 and Ezekiel 10. Really scary, dude. So the adjective cherubic is about as inaccurate as you can get.

[B]

Yeah. You don't want that.

[A]

No. Chapter 52. We move into a different section here. Enoch's death, Journeys and visions after those days in that place where I had seen all the visions of what is hidden. For I had been carried off in a whirlwind and they had taken me to the west.

[B]

Can you stop for a minute?

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Taken off in a whirlwind. We've seen that before. Old Testament.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Elijah. Once again, it's Elijah.

[A]

Yeah. Yeah. I was thinking wizard of Oz, but, you know.

[B]

No, no. He's taken by a whirlwind.

[A]

He is not Dorothy in a ch.

[B]

Chariot.

[A]

Right. Yes. Carried off to heaven in a whirlwind. Yes, exactly.

[B]

So is that a portal that opened up wormhole well, that's just it. Now we're going to get into crazy Town just for a second. Speculation, speculation. Warning, warning. All of the imagery and many of them are petroglyphs of what looks like spiral. And the fact that there are many circular, like Gilgal Raphaim.

[A]

Right.

[B]

And in fact, recent studies indicate that there may be 28, 20 more of those, that these were used for ceremonies. It's believed by archaeologists where going counterclockwise, you would follow the rings to the middle. So if you looked at it from above. And Gilgal Rafaim now is. Is kind of a ruin, but it's also some of the stones been taken and some have been added in so that they became sheep pens.

[A]

Right.

[B]

Those weren't there originally. Originally, it was a constant path forming a spiral.

[A]

Well, not a spiral, but it is.

[B]

I'm just saying that you go into the center like you would in a spiral. These are portals. So this was a journey to the underworld.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

This was a journey to another plane of existence that they called the other world or the underworld, or Eretz in some case in Hebrew. But what if this twin tornado, this whirlwind, looked like that? Well, yeah, Norway spiral.

[A]

Dr. Mike Freakman pointed out that there are. That. That image of concentric rings around a central point is found in petroglyphs around the world. So you've got like two versions of this. You've got the spiral, like you mentioned, this Norway spiral, but also the construction of Gilgal Refaim, which is concentric rings around a central.

[B]

Yeah, it's like a target.

[A]

And in the central core was an entry that a shaman presumably would go into. And again, this speculation, because this was created before the invention of writing, so. Or at least no writing that has yet been discovered.

[B]

And we've not been able to find any original Instagram accounts for from that

[A]

time period to explain what was going on. There's no TikTok videos going back to say, here, here's why you use this thing.

[B]

And the. The belief. I think they. They believed when they left these stone monuments that everybody would know forever what they meant.

[A]

Yeah. And Mike, Dr. Friedman, whom we met at Gilgal Rafa back in 2023, we'd love to have him come and dress a future tour. He said to us that his mentor, Yossi Garfinkel, a renowned Israeli scholar of the ancient world, wrote a book back in 2014, which I cited in our book the Gates of Hell, because we wrote about Gilgal Rephaim and some of the other megalithic structures and again, I kind of revisit that in the forthcoming book War of the Watchers, that most of the artwork in the the ancient world depicts human dancing. About 80% of the art found in the prehistoric world, petroglyphs or whatever, shows humans dancing.

[B]

So ritualistic dancing.

[A]

Right. And that in the ancient near east, they're almost always depicted in right profile, meaning that they are moving counterclockwise. And that still exists to this day. I mean, the Mount Hermon wall, that is a spiral leading to the summit, which is scooped out to probably to receive drink offerings, you know, libations, forces you to move up there counterclockwise. The Tawaf, which is the Muslim circumambulation of the Ka' Aba in Mecca, where they have to go and circumambulate counterclockwise. Yeah, don't go clockwise. They won't like that. You'll get, you know, arrested and tossed out of there. But this is a very ancient practice that goes back to the prehistoric world. And that was the point of Dr. Garfinkel's book, which I forget the title, but it was about prehistoric dance depicted in ancient artwork. So, yeah, these concentric rings, as though you're moving through a tube. You can think of any number of. Well, Stargate SG1, when they entered the Stargate, it was like you were entering a tube. And you would see these rings coming past you sort of as you move from one place to another. So that's, I think what, you know, Dr. Frank Friedman was talking about the possibility that when you imbibe a certain substance to help you go to the, you know, another realm to see things

[B]

that you normally wouldn't see.

[A]

Yeah. And that was the way they, the shamans depict it. Well, this is what I saw when I went to the spirit realm. You know, these, these rings like. Okay, well, let's, let's make a really big one.

[B]

Also, by the way, if you're wondering where the Elijah whirlwind thing. Second kings, chapter 2, verse 11. And it came to pass as they still went on and talked, that behold, there appeared a chariot of fire and horses of fire and parted them both asunder. And Elijah went up by a whirlwind into heaven.

[A]

Yeah, yeah. And now you think about it. Now, again, getting spiritual speculative here. I'm remembering an interview we did with Stan dale.

[B]

Oh, yeah.

[A]

2006 or seven. We were talking about portals and how from a physicist's standpoint, when you move from a higher plane of existence to a lower plane. In other words, from say, the Seventh heaven down to our level, the natural world. And from here down to, you know, Hades, shale, hell, whatever. You had to shed energy in order to move from one level to another. And we know that when you mix warmer air with colder air, we're going to see some of that here on Tuesday night into Wednesday morning.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

That's when you hear thunderstorms, tornadoes and so forth. Hurricanes in a bigger sense, out of the ocean. Would the same be true if you were opening a gap and mixing a level of higher energy with cooler and lesser energy? Maybe not temperature wise.

[B]

We need to stand back on.

[A]

Yeah, yeah. Again, just getting speculative here. Trying to come up with a scientific rationale for whirlwinds serving as portals.

[B]

I haven't talked to Stan and Holly for a while. Need to.

[A]

Long time after those days in that place where I had seen all the visions of what is hidden. For I had been carried off in a whirlwind and they had taken me to the west. There my eyes saw all the hidden things of heaven that will take place.

[B]

Also, the west is pictured. That's like the afterlife, too. Going to the west.

[A]

A mountain of iron and a mountain of copper and a mountain of silver and a mountain of gold and a mountain of soft metal and a mountain of lead. So six mountains.

[B]

That's interesting.

[A]

And I asked the angel who went with me, what are these things that I've seen in secret? And he said to me, all these things that you have seen will be for the authority of the Anointed. Of his Anointed One, so that he may be powerful and mighty on the earth. And the angel of Peace answered me. The angel of Peace answered me and said. Answered and said to me, wait a little while and all the hidden things that surround the Lord of Spirits will be revealed to you.

[B]

Do you know in the Red Wing saga, there is a character who is an angel whose name does mean angel of peace. He shows up once in a while.

[A]

Okay. Okay. Thinking. Okay.

[B]

It means peace of God.

[A]

Yeah. These mountains that your eyes saw, the mountain of iron and the mountain of copper and the mountain of silver and the mountain of gold and the mountain of soft metal and the mountain of lead. All these will be before the Chosen One, like wax before the fire and like the water that comes down from above upon these mountains. And they will be weak before his feet.

[B]

Okay. Are these actual mountains?

[A]

Well, mountain is often used as a euphemism for.

[B]

As another word for rebel angels.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Or watchers.

[A]

Yeah. They'll be like wax before the fire.

[B]

And there is a. A promise that all of the mountains will be laid low.

[A]

Yeah. Huh.

[B]

And I. I believe personally, this is speculation, but I personally believe that when the Lord says, we shall say to this mountain, move, and it will move, it's not talking about a physical mountain.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

It's talking about entities.

[A]

That's a really good point.

[B]

It's part of the spiritual warfare.

[A]

Right. Good point. And again, I just think, going back and thinking back to the Sumerian language, which is sort of reflected in Hebrew, that the word for mountain, kur, is also the word for the netherworld, isn't that which can mean the land, but also can mean the netherworld.

[B]

Let me see if I can find that verse.

[A]

Hmm.

[B]

Well, this might be it. And you can take this out. Isaiah 17. The nations shall rush like the rushing of many waters, but God shall rebuke them, and they shall flee far off. And it shall be and shall be chased as the chaff of the mountains before the wind and like a rolling thing before the whirlwind and. Nope, that isn't the one.

[A]

Well, let me see if I can find it real quick. Mountains laid low. This is how we do things. Things occur to us and on the fly, as we are studying here, every valley should be lifted up and every mountain laid low. Mountain and hill laid low. This is Isaiah 40, verse 4.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

The uneven ground will become smooth, the rugged land a plain. And again we get to, you know, think about Zechariah 4. Who are you, O great mountain before Zerubbabel, you should be made a plain.

[B]

Yes, exactly.

[A]

Yeah. Great mountain was the epithet of Enlil, the chief, the father of the gods of Mesopotamia, but also Dagon.

[B]

I would.

[A]

And that Enlil and Dagon were equivalent with the Canaanite father God El, whose portal, his threshing floor, his tabernacle, was on the summit of Mount Hermon.

[B]

Exactly. And if you think of Mount Olympus, Mount Hermon up in. In Turkey. These are places where the Storm God reigned, or Uranus the father, or Kronos the father of the storm God, in some cases, that this was a pantheon.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

This was where an infernal realm met.

[A]

Right. Yeah. Mount Hermon, essentially, the Canaanite Olympus, the Infernal council. We actually talked about that on Iron and Myth this past week.

[B]

Oh.

[A]

As we were discussing Melchizedek.

[B]

That is going to.

[A]

No, that was last week.

[B]

Oh, last Sunday.

[A]

Tonight is Bob McGinnis. Colonel McGinnis. Oh, yeah, yeah. So. So we. Anyway, when we deal with mountains, the point here, up to this Excursus was, is that mountains don't always refer to geographic figures on the landscape. They refer to supernatural entities and. Or the location where those entities meet. Again, Hermon being the Canaanite Olympus.

[B]

Now, it is possible that it's a both and whatever.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Or a both or. But because we see a reference a couple of verses later that are interesting.

[A]

Yeah. Verse seven again. And in those days, none will. I guess I hadn't read that yet. So go verse seven. Then you go back one. Verse six. The mountains. These mountains that your eyes saw. The mountain of iron and the mountain of copper and the mountain of silver and the mountain of gold and the mountain of soft metal. Copper perhaps. I already read copper. All right. And the mountain of lead. All these will be before the chosen one, like wax before the fire and like the water that comes down from above upon these mountains. And they are weak. They will be weak before his feet. Yeah, weak mountains. I think you're right. I think these are. He's referring to entities and not actual mountains. And in those days, none will save himself either by gold or silver. And none will be able to flee.

[B]

Now I love that. No one could get saved by gold or silver. Those who are the elite see themselves as the rulers. The human rulers of this world, the oligarchs. You cannot. Money, possessions will not save you. Transhumanism will not save you.

[A]

Right. Yes. And there will be not iron for war, nor a garment for a breastplate. Copper will be of no use. And tin will be reckoned as nothing. And lead will not be desired. All these will be rejected and be destroyed. Destroyed from the face of the earth when the chosen one appears before the Lord of spirits.

[B]

Oh, now this is interesting. And again, we. We recognize that First Enoch is not in the Bible because it doesn't 100% fit. But I believe that these. That there is some real truth in here.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

I guess is what I'm saying. The fact that, that he's saying all of these items that can make all the rich things, all of the things that the rich would use for decoration and self aggrandizement and for war and for trade and for business, they're going to be nothing. In fact, they won't even be available.

[A]

Yeah. Yep. And despite the fact that first Enoch is not in the Bible, it's clear that it was read and respected by Jews of the second Temple period. And again, if we have not emphasized that this week, the fact that Jesus used the title the son of man of himself 78 times in the New Testament is reason enough to pay attention to it.

[B]

And he spent a lot of time in this region.

[A]

He did. Right where this was written, near the Sea of Galilee. Jesus based his ministry at Capernaum, which you can see from the. The Essene community, which was a bunch of hermits living in caves on the front face of Mount Arbel.

[B]

Yeah, it's a remarkable. Just like at first forms a right triangle.

[A]

Yeah, almost. It's a. It's a really striking feature. When you're on the Sea of Galilee, you look to the west and see the mountain that's got like a 90 degree slope, you know, sticking up out of the earth, just across the road from ancient Magdala with a bunch of caves which. With a bunch of caves in it that were only accessible rope ladders back in the day. We're already at 55 minutes.

[B]

Oh, well, so.

[A]

So. And we've just done chapter 52. So we've done three chapters out of the five I had scheduled.

[B]

Well, I'm still in the same chapter.

[A]

Yeah, well, Jay Winter, you know, he. I know he didn't like chapter division.

[B]

He didn't.

[A]

Yeah. Well, next month when we get back to first Enoch, we'll start with first Enoch 53. Okay, so I just should finish chapter 52.

[B]

Oh, that's a shame. Let me just. Spoilers. Let me go ahead and read a couple of verses that are in the winter.

[A]

Well, actually, 53 is not that long, so we'll go ahead and do 53 because. Yes, you're right. There's some exciting stuff coming up.

[B]

Yep. So you just read these metals. And lead shall not be desired. And all these things shall be destroyed from the surface of the earth when

[A]

the chosen One appears before the Lord of spirits.

[B]

And I looked and turned to another part of the earth. And I saw there a deep valley with burning fire.

[A]

Okay, that's not in the.

[B]

And they brought the kings and the mighty. That's why I wanted to get to this.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And began to cast them into this deep valley.

[A]

Okay, well, it's not the Charles. Are you Charles either?

[B]

Oh. So what is the verse after? And all these things shall be destroyed from the surface of the earth

[A]

when the elect one shall appear before the face of the Lord of spirits. That's the R.H. charles. And then chapter 53 begins. There mine eyes saw a deep valley with open mouths. And all who dwell on the earth and sea and islands shall bring to him gifts and presents and tokens of homage. But that deep valley shall not become full.

[B]

Okay, let me just read this to you again, because it's really interesting. And I looked and turned, turned to another part of the earth and saw there a deep valley with burning fire. And they brought the kings and the mighty and began to cast them into this deep valley. And mine eyes saw how they made these their instruments, how iron chains of immeasurable weight.

[A]

Charles, really? Wow. Jay Winter really deviates from.

[B]

And I asked the angel of Peace who went with me, saying, for whom are these chains being prepared? And he said unto me, these are being prepared for the hosts. And this is exactly where I thought we were going when we saw all of those medals.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

For the hosts of Azazel, who taught mankind to war to use metals.

[A]

Let me read the Hermonia translation.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

There my eyes saw a deep valley, and its mouth was open. And all who dwell on the land and the sea and the islands will bring it gifts and presents and tribute, but that valley will not become full. Their hands commit lawless deeds. And everything that the righteous labor over, the sinners lawlessly devour. And from the presence of the Lord of spirits, the sinners will perish. And from the face of his earth they will be taken, and they will perish forever and ever. For I saw all the angels of punishment dwelling there and preparing all the instruments of Satan. And I asked the angel of peace, who went with me these instruments, for whom are they preparing them? And he said to me, they are preparing these for the kings and the mighty of the earth that they may perish thereby. And after this, the righteous and chosen one will cause the house of his congregation to appear.

[B]

Boy, this is nothing like that. I mean, it's similar. You've got a preparation of some kind. You call it instruments. This calls it chains.

[A]

Looking back over here. Yeah. All right. Charles is the same way. For I saw all the angels of punishment abiding there and preparing all the instruments of Satan.

[B]

Okay, I'll tell you what. Let's start at the section that I just read. Next time.

[A]

Okay, I see where you're at. You all right? Jay Winter seems to have skipped chapter 53 altogether and gone right to 54.

[B]

Well, that's Paul possible. That's possible. Or he's got 54 in another place because he's done that before.

[A]

Yeah, it. It could be, because I see in chapter 54, for whom are these chains being prepared? And he said to me, these are being prepared for the host of Azazel.

[B]

Exactly. Which is when we saw all of these metals, all I could think about was Azazel.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And suddenly There he is.

[A]

Huh?

[B]

Azazel. If. Or Azazel. You might have pronounced it that way.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Got a special punishment. The watchers were put into Tartarus. Azazel was put under sharp rocks in Duda.

[A]

Yeah, the. Yeah, the wilderness of Duda Elton, which

[B]

we don't know where that is. It may be in another dimension. Yeah, yeah, it may be a part of Tartarus. I don't know.

[A]

Yeah, so chapters 53 and 54, or at least some of chapter 54 through 50, verse 6 in the RH Charles translation, which the chapter divisions were followed by the Hermenea translators and James Charlesworth. Yeah, they've got the punishment for the armies of azazel in chapter 54, but winter seems to have skipped right over 53 altogether.

[B]

Well, like I said, he may have decided that they fit differently.

[A]

So we'll, we'll go into that next time. We'll. We'll.

[B]

Maybe his brain was like mine and he saw those medals and said, hey, this is supposed to be.

[A]

Could be because the Hermania translators have done that before too, where they've shifted things around a little bit. But again, it's because some of what is in First Enoch, I mean, the most complete texts come from the Ethiopic, and First Enoch is in the Ethiopian Bible. Got an email from somebody the other day asking me what I thought about the Bible used by the Ethiopian Church. I said, well, I don't speak Ge', EZ their language, so I don't know. Yeah, All I can say is I know that they've got First Enoch in it, but as far as I know,

[B]

they have several other extra biblical or extra apocryphal books that they consider sacred.

[A]

Yeah, but as far as I know, I mean, again, since it's not in English, I can't comment on.

[B]

Actually, some of them you can get

[A]

in English translated from the Ethiopic.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

Yeah, so I can't make any. Have not read the English translation either. So I can't make any recommendation one way or the other. But we'll say that we concluded with chapter 50 today. We'll pick up a 53 tomorrow or next month rather, in the. And reserved for sinners and these sinful angels.

[B]

And if you're reading from the Winter Version, it is chapter two, verse 56 that we'll begin with next time.

[A]

Why, that is weird.

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I know.

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Yeah, well,

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Well, OG Report. Yeah, the OG Report, in case you missed it yesterday.

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That's why we're repeating on Sunday radio. Yeah, I had a nerve conduction test on Friday. And this is something that had been scheduled anyway, but the insurance company is insisting on it because they've been resisting approval. In other words, paying for the recommended treatment that my neurologist wants me to undergo, which is intravenous immunoglobulin. Immunoglobulin is just antibodies, and these would be antibodies that presumably will tell my antibodies to quit attacking the nerves, pump them into my veins, and they'll start slapping my antibodies around.

[B]

That's the way I understand it too.

[A]

Yeah. But it's very expensive. Like a five day course of treatment without insurance just for the immunoglobulin is like $40,000.

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So now the insurance company wouldn't pay that. That's what it would cost us.

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That it would cost us if we were selling.

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They probably pay 5,000 or so.

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Yeah, Insurance. So they wanted to see the nerve conduction test in order to prove that. That I really needed. And the test showed what we already knew, which is that my nerves in my lower legs and my feet especially, and in my hands have been degraded and in my feet damaged. My feet are basically paralyzed at this point. Can't move my toes. So. But that's good news because it means the insurance company really doesn't have any justification for continuing to deny or reject the payment.

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And while Derek and I firmly believe in the Lord's ability to totally heal him, sometimes that is not his will and sometimes he has us walk through some difficulties and it's a life lesson to ourselves and to others. But if you would still pray for Derek's healing as well as if the Lord wants to work through the doctors, if that's his choice, then if Derek could get that IVIg treatment, it would be really nice.

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Yeah, yeah. We'd start the reversal of this process and hopefully restore some functionality. Restoring functionality in my hands would be wonderful.

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Oh, I know.

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You know, my feet, if they come back, that would be great. Love to be able to balance again without having to lean on a cane, but, you know, I can live with that. Being able to type, being able to button buttons work, zippers and stuff like that. That would be nice. So we appreciate your prayers in that regard. This coming week, I've got the joy of a colonoscopy. Yeah, they. When they did a CT scan on me while I was in the hospital last month for pneumonia, they found a couple of patches of diverticulosis and they wanted to take a closer look, but because my body had been so stressed coming in, they started me on the prep for the Derek had colonoscopy, in case you wondered. Yeah, yeah. Seven days in the hospital for pneumonia which grew, which grew out of influenza A. I was running very high fever for several days. The prep was really more than my body could handle at that point. I literally dropped 20 pounds in 10 days. So I'm only back up like 11 pounds from the 20. And I've been eating a lot, I've

[B]

been feeding you a lot of protein, a lot of really good stuff. So yeah, it isn't because you're not eating.

[A]

That is true. So the colonoscopy is to just. It was overdue anyway. You're supposed to get it when you're 60. But self pay, it's like we can hold off until I get to Medicare. Well now it's. I've got health insurance and really need to check out those, those spots. So anyway, that's coming up this Wednesday. Yay. And then so Tuesday is going to

[B]

be a really fun day. Yeah, the prep day. Many of you have gone through colonoscopies. You know exactly what we're talking about. You want a squeaky clean colon when you get in there.

[A]

That's right. So anyway, the funny thing is it's. My primary care physician is going to do the colonoscopy.

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I know he did mine too.

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Yeah. And I've not been able to see him face to face. I got a video consult with him.

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I don't think it's going to be face to face this time either. Although seriously, when he did mine, he came in before the whole thing and we.

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Before they get you at the doctor.

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And then afterwards he also talked to me.

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Yeah, yeah. So I'm going to joke with him about that. So yeah, I had to schedule a colonomoscopy just so I could see you again because he's very busy. He's a very good doctor and his practice nurse practitioners are great too too.

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So we really like him.

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But yeah, this will be kind of funny. He's a good guy. I think he'll laugh.

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So anyway that's.

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So that's coming up this week later in April. I've got. It's like in one week, the last week of April. Cardiology, pulmonology and neurology all in the same week.

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You're punching all those doctor cards.

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Punching all the doctor cards. Yeah. Looking for. You get enough on the card, you get a free surgery. So. Or whatever. Anyway, it's. We can laugh about it because you know, again it's. It's all in the Lord's hands and he's allowing it for his own reasons. So, you know, there's, there are lessons to be learned in all of this and I can appreciate better what people who have more serious issues go through. And that's something I have to remember. You know, when I start feeling a little frustrated, it's like, wait a minute,

[B]

your niece Sarah, she's got stage four colon cancer and the insurance company is playing the same kind of games with her.

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Yeah.

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So if you could pray for Sarah, that would be wonderful. And she's also got a GoFundMe. If you got a few extra dollars, you can help her out because she is not able to work a lot and even when she does work, it's not a high paying job. It may. She mainly wants it to keep her insurance.

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Insurance. Right. And the insurance company, as you say, is playing games and she's getting billed for things that she thought were covered. So we have a link in fact to Gilberthouse.org look for the. There's a banner at the top of the website. Hope for Sarah. And that's what that's about. So again, if you are so led, Sarah can really use help. Thankfully, the Lord has provided for us and your generosity has helped provide for us. I mean really, the Lord is providing through you and we appreciate your support. Of course we have a donate page at our website as well and you

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can do it through Stripe or PayPal or hey, old fashioned check.

[A]

Yeah. So Gilberthouse.org donate all the instructions are there, but Sarah and her situation is much, much worse. So my stuff is, it's nuisance. I mean I can type using speech to text, which isn't perfect, but it's a lot faster than me trying to work with these fingers these days.

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It could be hilarious though. I could be in another part of the house and Derek start, starts sending an email using speech to text. And I come into the kitchen, what you talking to me? And so that, that shows up.

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Yeah. What are you talking to me?

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Yeah. It's hilarious.

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And my response that. Yeah, so it's, it can be. Yeah. Hilarity ensues.

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Yep. So yesterday I mentioned my OG is just essentially the Lord has really been wonderful and helped me to regain my eyesight and I'm really healthy other than that for the most part. I mean my eyes still, the glands don't function exactly right. So I have good days and bad days, but mainly good days. And it allows me to drive because Derek no longer drive. And so the Lord is allowing me to take care of Derek and He is my priority. So whenever I have a few minutes, I. I write a little bit or plot a little bit in book nine and it will get done when.

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Write a little plot. Yeah.

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I love that song. Yeah, I love that musical.

[A]

So anyway, there's that couple of events coming up. We'll be at the Go There for conference in Dayton, Ohio. Actually suburban Brookville, Ohio, which is on the edge of the Dayton suburbs. It's out in the middle of some cornfield.

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There's a really great restaurant there. And it.

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Oh gosh. What is it?

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Yeah, it's by that. Was it a Holiday Inn where they had to stay the last couple of times?

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Yeah.

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And the restaurant is in. Is within walking distance of that hotel.

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Yeah, it's on the other side of the parking lot. Remember the name of the.

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It's crazy. It is such crazy, wonderful down home food from one end of the building to the other.

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Yeah. But a great lineup at the Go There for conference. This is July 24th and 25th of 2026 at the Harvest Revival center, which is a wonderful facility. Very comfortable seating and a really big screen behind so you can see all the presentation slides clearly and the speaker lineup. Pastor Carl Gallups. John Haller. Glad that Mike is getting John Haller there to speak. He is a prophecy scholar. His weekly prophecy update from the Fellowship Bible chapel is on YouTube and it's a great look at news events of the week and how they fit into End times prophecy. Carl Tykrib will be there and he is the epitome of autodidact.

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Yeah, he is.

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Yeah. And I'm going to talk to Carl probably later this week about his recent trip to Minnesota, Minneapolis for the Paganicon. It's a pagan gathering. Fifth time he's been there. And he kind of, you know, he doesn't announce that he's a Christian. He just sort of sits in the lick. But he did say that he and another Christian sat in on a panel last year where they were trying to make a deity manifest.

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Oh, I remember that.

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And he and the other guy were sitting there praying in the back of the room against it. And the person at the front of the room was like, I don't understand. This should be working. So we'll get a good report from Carl about what the pagans are teaching. And by the way, it does say something that Minneapolis is sort of ground zero for all these protests lately. In fact, the largest no Kings protest yesterday was in Minneapolis. It's also the pagan center of the United States.

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Yeah. Have you noticed how some of these marches. If you just take a look at the individuals, it doesn't seem a whole lot different than those who would go to, say, a pagan.

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Yeah. And not very diverse either.

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No, not at all.

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Yeah.

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Yeah. Don't you guys have something better to do with your lives?

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Well, they're getting paid.

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In many cases. They are.

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They're getting paid. There's a lot of money behind these protests. There's not grassroots. Anyway, Dr. Greg Reed.

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Oh, we so love Greg Reed.

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Yep. He is coming up from El Paso. He is a spiritual warrior who's been through a lot. He has experience these entities up close and face to face. So he'll be worth hearing from Tom Hughes, another prophecy scholar who we ran into in Israel last fall. I know Olivier Melnick, messianic Jew. He'll have a lot to say about what's going on in the world.

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Look forward to meeting him.

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And of course, Dr. Mike Spalding. So wonderful gathering. If you can be there. Great. It's again, just outside Dayton, Ohio. If you can't be there. Streaming video will be available and all the information and Registration [e-mail] and then the remnant rising conference two weeks later in Springfield, Missouri, August 7th through 9th. This will be a wonderful gathering. We've got some very good friends who will be there, like Joe Horn, host of Skywatch tv. Vicki Joy Anderson. Kim Kenny C. Tracy Tennant. Jamie Walden.

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Yeah. Haven't seen him for a while. I love him.

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He is a fireball.

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He truly is.

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And some folks. Dave Hodges, host of the Common Sense Show.

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Great guy.

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David Paxton.

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Yep. Love him.

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Looking forward to meeting. Tony Merkel, host of the Confessionals. John Pounders, host of now youw See TV. And Patrick McCurdy, who we met there last time.

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Yeah.

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Who. Who ministers to first responders who are dealing with trauma.

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Former police officer.

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Former police officer. And his ministry is working with first responders who sometimes have to deal with seeing things that no human should ever have to see.

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Yeah.

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So Larry Ragland also. And so, yeah, again, if you can't be there, streaming videos available. But this is one that really easy to get to. The Springfield Branson National Airport. You can connect from Denver, Dallas, Chicago, Chicago, Atlanta, Charlotte.

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Right.

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All the major hubs connect into Springfield. And then the hotel, the Oasis Hotel and Convention center has a shuttle from the airport, but rent a car because the Worlds of Wildlife Aquarium, which has been voted the best aquarium in the United states. It's like 15 minutes away.

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Yep.

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Branson is 45 minutes away.

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There's a place Called Hertz Donut.

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Oh, yeah, Hertz Donut. Yeah.

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Run by family called Hurt. But yes, you do need to get some of their donuts. Give them a try. You can wave to the hospital that Derek and I go to all the time as you're. You're in that area. But also there is, in addition to the aquarium, there's also the number one Bass Pro. Bass Pro.

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First Bass Pro. It is huge.

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Huge indeed. Also Buc Ees.

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Oh, there's a new Bucky's on i44 just 10 minutes east.

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And if you head down 65, you can get to Branson within about 45 minutes. So it's a great place. There's an outlet mall down there, but also sorts of things to do.

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Silver Dollar City, Branson Landing is a great place to just go shopping and have a great meal.

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August is a wonderful time to head down there. If you've never been to Brans Branson, come to the conference, spend a few extra days and go down to Branson.

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Oh, Silver Dollar City.

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Exactly.

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Wonderful theme park, which is not like your typical, you know, Six Flags over whatever. It's got an Ozarks feel, lots of trees. It's beautiful.

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Yep. Grow your beard long before you get here or bring a fake one.

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Yeah, that's what I'm working on.

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I know.

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We need to discuss Our Israel tour, October 11th through 23rd. The scheduled dates. Yeah.

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There are some airlines that are starting to put their flights to Tel Aviv on hold. Delta, for example, is not going to run any flights to Tel Aviv until at least September.

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Right.

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And others have said things similar. So because of that it may be difficult to get to Tel Aviv. So we will talk with the Lipkins very soon and talk about rescheduling the October conference, not conference, but the tour until next spring.

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Yeah.

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And if you've already registered and you cannot make the new dates which will confirm we haven't chosen them yet, then you'll get your money back.

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Well, the deposit, the $3 deposit is non refundable.

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Yeah. Because they've already started additional.

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Yeah. Above the. Beyond the deposit.

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Right. Yeah. It didn't used to be that way that you would get it all back. But I know that now that they're keeping the. And you can't blame them. Most places won't even give you your money back.

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Yeah. The economy in Israel has taken a massive hit.

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It's really hurting good friends over there that are really hurting right now.

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Right. So that is the situation there. And yeah. I'll send a note to Eddie Lipkin today, in fact, just.

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I would really love to go in October because I want to help them out and I want to get back and see. See them again. But if you can't get there.

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Right. You can't get there if the conflict continues much longer. I mean, we're already, you know, from March, it's April, May, June, July, August.

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And here's the thing.

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We've got less than seven months out.

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We've got Saudi Arabia, United Arab Emirates, Qatar, many other countries that are starting to choose sides.

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Yeah.

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And even Ukraine. Zelensky is jumping in. Is jumping in and he's selling drones. Anti drone. Drones and drones. And anti. Anti drone.

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Right.

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My anti drone.

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Yeah. I'm surprised with. As long as that conflict. See, the Russian war began, we're past four years now, began in February 2022. Yeah. I'm amazed that it's still continuing. Russia appears to be just waging a war of attrition, figuring that they've got more men, more money and more time than Ukraine. They're just grinding them down.

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Which is why Zelensky A wants to be part of NATO.

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Right. But if you can also make friends with the wealthy Gulf states like the Saudis and uae.

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You got it.

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Then he's got cash flow.

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You've got it.

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Yeah. Well, it is. We talked about this on PID radio yesterday, what appears to be the beginning. And that's why I prayed the way I did at the beginning of our study today. These are the opening salvos in World War three.

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They very well might be. Which will lead to the return of Christ, I believe.

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Yeah, yeah, I agree. Look up.

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Amen. Our redemption draws near.

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Amen. Well, let's close with a word of prayer. Father, we thank you for opening the word of Enoch to us. And we know that it was not written by Enoch, written by Essenes in a pseudepigraphal work. And yet we know that these words were read by the apostles, by John the Baptist. Obviously these words were known to you because before they were even committed to parchment. So, Father, we or Lord, We just ask for your spirit to guide us in rightly dividing these words. We know that there are good reasons that they are not included in the canon of Scripture. But we also know that they were well known to those who followed you as you began your ministry. As you asked the question at Caesarea Philippi, who do people say the Son of Man is? Knowing that you were referring to yourself, Lord, they did not see it at that moment. But when you ask Peter the question who do people? Who do you say I am? And Peter answered correctly. Lord, we pray that all those who do not yet know you would come to know the answer that Peter gave. You are the Christ, the son of the living God. We pray that your spirit will fill us and guide us each day. May we have the courage to speak speak to share the hope that we have in you with our families, our friends, when you bring divine appointments across our path, whether it's at work or in the checkout line at Walmart. Father, may we have the boldness to speak with gentleness and respect so that we do not bring your word or you into disrepute. May we give skeptics no cause to criticize you because of our actions or our harsh words or our social media posts. Father, may we consecrate each day to you and live as though we are ambassadors for you, our king, and your kingdom, because that is in truth, what we are. We are your image bearers. We carry your flag into the world and we ask your forgiveness for those times when we do not honor that standard, that banner, that flag. Those times when we give skeptics reason to point and say, oh well, if that's what Christ is about, I want no part. May we give them no reason to think or say any such thing. Lord, you have sacrificed yourself for us. May we honor that sacrifice and all that we think, say and do. We thank you Father, for your blessings. We pray for the strength. To run and when our strength fails to crawl, Until we reach that finished light that we may hear. Well done, my good and faithful servant. We ask this in your precious name. Amen.

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Amen. Amen.

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Like my dad, as he got older, he got more emotional.

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There's nothing wrong with that.

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By the time I reach his age, when he passed, I'll be blubbering like a baby every day.

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How old was your dad when he.

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69. Ah, he was just a little shy of his 70th birthday.

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Oh, that's right.

[A]

Well, tonight, Lieutenant Colonel Robert McGinnis talks about his books, his first two books on artificial intelligence, AI for Humanity's Future. His new one just released last month, no, excuse me, it's available for pre order. It's coming out in April, called the New AI Cold War. And he's got a third one planned for this trilogy on AI. He went to MIT just on his own dime to study this because he sees it as an existential threat to humanity, which it is, but it's a tool that we Christians can use if we use it wisely his third book called the Final Algorithm. We need to read all three of these. Anyway, Colonel Guinness tonight on A View from the Bunker. That'll release at 7pm Central Time UTC -5. And it'll stream on YouTube as though we're doing it live. We won't be doing it live, of course, but you're welcome to join and join in the chat. Usually a fairly active chat that goes along with those streams, which is why I put it out that way. But it's a valuable conversation and I'm just honored that Colonel McGinnis, who is a regular contributor to Fox News both on air and his columns and zoped pieces, would give up 45 minutes to talk to this little podcast here in the Ozarks.

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I know, I know.

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So anyway, that'll be available tonight at vftb.net or YouTube.comilberthouse or just get our app. Until next time, I'm Derek Gilbert.

[B]

I'm Sharon Gilbert. We love you very much. Happy Palm Sunday. Bye bye, everybody.

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