The Son of Man - Gilbert House Fellowship

Transcript

A (0:00)

Foreign. From the snow covered Missouri Ozarks, greetings and welcome to the Gilbert house fellowship for Sunday, January 25, 2026. I'm Derek Gilbert.

B (0:22)

I am Sharon Gilbert and welcome to our home. Everyone. We're delighted that you've chosen to join us this Sunday morning. You know, many of you, Derek just opened saying snowy coverage. We've got about eight, maybe nine inches of snow. Many of you didn't get snow, you got ice.

A (0:40)

Yeah.

B (0:41)

Down in Dallas.

A (0:42)

Dallas across to the Carolinas. I'm gonna have to check in on my sister and brother in law a little later today because they're expecting about a half an inch of ice over there.

B (0:50)

Yep.

A (0:51)

But those power lines, you get a quarter to half an inch of ice and power lines start snapping. So I haven't seen this morning yet, I haven't checked the news to see how many people are without power around the nation.

B (1:06)

You know, it could be that much ice to snap the power lines, but also you'll get trees that will lose limbs and the limb coming down can snap the power line or at least

A (1:16)

cut off your electricity and perhaps, you know, land on a roof which can also cause damage. It's a serious thing. But there was a rather comical infographic that was displayed on social media. Some, you know, weathercaster decided to calculate the weight of a quarter inch of ice on a tree with a 30 foot crown. So like a medium sized maple tree or something. And I forget what the weight is, but the calculate the equivalent weight was 109 0.5 golden retrievers. And it showed all these little golden retrievers sitting in the tree.

B (1:58)

Sitting in the tree. Don't let that many golden retrievers get in your tree.

A (2:03)

Well, yeah, the 110th golden retriever is just one too many.

B (2:07)

It's just one too many.

A (2:08)

Yeah. Somebody commented to that post that Americans will do anything to avoid using the metric system.

B (2:16)

You know, there, there was a graphic that I shared to social media of advice from a weathercaster. And so it was a screenshot or a photo of the television of the advice was, okay, here's how you drive on ice. You drive as if you're going to a Sunday pitch in after church. You got your grandma in the car with you. She's got a bunch of gravy that's hot. And you, you don't want to spill gravy on grandma.

Summary

Gilbert House Fellowship – “The Son of Man”

Date: January 25, 2026
Hosts: Derek and Sharon Gilbert

Overview

In this episode of the Gilbert House Fellowship, Derek and Sharon Gilbert continue their monthly study of 1 Enoch, focusing on chapters 43–49 and the emergence of the messianic “Son of Man” concept. They situate these passages in their ancient Jewish context and connect them to New Testament ideas about messiah, judgment, and the supernatural conflict underlying worldly chaos. Along the way, the Gilberts blend practical observations on winter storms and contemporary geopolitics with deep dives into ancient texts, all suffused with their trademark warmth, humor, and spiritual encouragement.

Key Discussion Points & Insights

Weather and World Events

Winter Storm Recap — The episode opens with tales of severe winter weather across the U.S., with warnings about ice, power outages, and heartfelt prayers for those affected.
- “About eight, maybe nine inches of snow... Many of you didn’t get snow, you got ice.” —Sharon (00:22)
- “Somebody commented... Americans will do anything to avoid using the metric system.” —Derek, on a ‘golden retrievers in trees’ meme (02:08)
Driving in Dangerous Conditions — Advice includes:
- “Drive as if you’re going to a Sunday pitch-in after church. You got your grandma and a pot of gravy in the car—you do not want to spill gravy on grandma.” —Sharon referencing a social media post (02:16)

Socio-Political Context and the Spiritual War

Current Turbulence and Its Deeper Roots
- The Gilberts note the proliferation of “chaos” and political division as a manifestation of deeper spiritual battles.
- Discussion of the London School of Economics and the Fabian Society as illustrative of subversive, long-term strategies for societal change.
  - “Named after a Roman general... a wolf in sheep’s clothing. You wait until you get people sufficiently fooled...” —Sharon (05:46)
- “If you don’t look at the spiritual forces behind [the chaos], you’ve got blinders on.” —Derek (07:59)

Return to 1 Enoch: The Book of Parables

Contextual Importance
- 1 Enoch, especially the section known as the Book of Parables (chs. 37-71), reflects Second Temple period Jewish expectations and is foundational for later Christian messianic thought.
  - “1 Enoch is important because it showed that there was a group of Jews in the Second Temple period... convinced the world had been so corrupted by the rebellion...” —Derek (08:51)
- Emphasis on the Essenes as the likely originators of these ideas, situated in the Galilee and further north.

Supernatural Themes in 1 Enoch (Chapters 43–49)

[14:45–55:17] In-Depth Exegesis:

Angels, Stars, and Lightnings as Supernatural Beings (43:1–2)
- “He’s referring to supernatural entities here... lightnings, stars, righteous balance, weighed according to their light...” —Derek (17:05)
- “Stars is an image people are familiar with, but the idea of lightnings being angelic beings...” —Derek (18:21)
- “In Revelation, when John hears seven thunders—are these just sounds or entities speaking?” —Sharon (18:30)
Loyalty of Angels, the Judgment of Rebelling Entities
- Discussion of faithful angels (the “holy ones”) who “dwell on the earth” and act according to God’s design (20:53–24:46).
- “The messenger angels... look just like men. Maybe it’s because they’re blending in.” —Sharon (24:39)
The Second Parable and the Fate of Apostates (45–46)
- Introduction to a messianic judge who will separate the righteous from those who deny the “name of the dwelling of the holy ones.”
  - “If you deny the name... you are in sort of a limbo state... you don’t get to go to heaven, you don’t get to be on earth.” —Sharon (29:22)
The “Son of Man” as Messianic Figure (46:1–4; 48)
- The first clear title of “Son of Man” as a preexistent, righteous judge and king, predating even Daniel 7’s use.
- “This is the first appearance of this as a title... probably written in the last 20 or 25 years before the birth of Jesus.” —Derek (34:57)
- “He will crush the teeth of sinners... overturn the kings from their thrones... because they do not exalt the name of the Lord of Spirits.” —Derek reading Enoch (36:38)
Judgment, Restoration, and End-Times Imagery
- Judgment against the unrighteous, rest for the faithful, and the Son of Man’s role as both redeemer and eternal king.
- “Wisdom is poured out like water, and glory fails not before him forever... unrighteousness shall disappear as a shadow...” —Sharon (54:44)
New Testament Connections
- The Gilberts draw direct lines from Enoch to the Gospels, Paul, and Revelation, noting how ideas like messianic pre-existence, living water, judgment, and the divine council are rooted in these older texts.
  - “This confirms that this Son of Man is God himself.” —Derek (46:11)
  - “He shall be the light of the Gentiles... all who dwell on earth shall fall down and worship before him.” —Sharon (46:02–47:46)

Spiritual Application & Theological Cautions

Rejecting “Messiah Plus” Theology
- Critique of doctrines suggesting believers must “prepare the world” for Christ’s return.
  - “If you have the mindset that we as human beings have to prepare the earth... that is Jesus plus, that’s Messiah plus... it starts with us, and he just doesn’t have the power to come back? It’s wrong.” —Sharon (57:35)
- “We are not to take control of the world through political means ... that’s playing into the hands of the Antichrist.” —Derek (58:41–58:57)
Historical Context of Messianic Expectation
- “Jews generally... would not accept a suffering servant. Some of them just didn’t want to lose their jobs. If Messiah is actually here... we’re gonna have to give up our nice cars and our mansions...” —Derek (59:42)
Practical Spirituality
- Encouragement to trust God in the midst of personal and societal suffering, echoing themes from Job.
  - “Just because we have problems doesn’t mean we’re not in the Lord’s hand... sometimes it’s to show the fallen realm, do you see how much they continue to trust?” —Sharon (86:06–86:22)

Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

On The Metric System:
- “Somebody commented... Americans will do anything to avoid using the metric system.” —Derek (02:08)
On Humility in Interpretation:
- “So we need to approach this subject with humility and praying for wisdom and discernment, which we always do.” —Derek (11:40)
On the Son of Man Title:
- “The first appearance of this as a title... The Son of Man... this was probably written in the last 20 or 25 years before the birth of Jesus.” —Derek (34:57)
On Messianic Authority:
- “This confirms that this Son of Man is God himself.” —Derek (46:11)
On Spiritual Warfare:
- “Trust is a powerful weapon... If you trust in the Lord, it is like coals of fire on the heads of those who didn’t.” —Sharon (86:22)
On Suffering:
- “Many of you out there listening, you’re going through it, too. You’re going through things that are just as hard and maybe much worse... Trust in him.” —Sharon (87:18–87:41)

Timed Segment Highlights

00:22–03:49 — Midwest winter storm stories; opening banter and driving advice.
05:06–08:36 — Historical context: Fabian Society and its influence on culture and politics.
08:51–11:40 — Introduction to 1 Enoch, the supernatural context of the world, Essene theology.
14:45–26:44 — 1 Enoch 43-44: Angels, lightnings, stars, and parabolic meanings.
27:02–33:10 — 1 Enoch 45-46: Second parable; judgment of those who deny the dwelling of the holy ones.
33:21–40:53 — 1 Enoch 46-47: Head of days, Son of Man, and his messianic functions.
44:15–55:17 — 1 Enoch 48-49: Pre-existence of the Son of Man, judgment, hope for the righteous, dissolution of unrighteousness.
57:35–58:57 — Theological caution against “Messiah Plus” or dominionist thinking.
62:47–67:46 — Q&A: Ron Wyatt’s archaeological claims discussed.
70:28–72:00 — Personal update: Rehoming pets for practical and health reasons.
81:23–86:22 — “Old People Report”: The Gilberts discuss personal health challenges and faith.
90:00–92:59 — Closing prayer: “May we reflect your light to those around us.”

Closing Reflections & Resources

Book Recommendations & Further Study:
The Gilberts encourage listeners to explore 1 Enoch (including Mike Heiser’s companion volumes) for its foundational influence on messianic expectations, and reference free tools provided in their show notes.
Community & Support:
Listeners are invited to share prayer requests via the Gilbert House app and connect in community, especially those struggling with hardship or isolation.
Upcoming Events:
Information about Israel tours, conferences, and ongoing collaborative work is shared enthusiastically.

Summary

This episode’s deep dive into Enoch and the emergence of the “Son of Man” motif reveals not only vital connections to Christian doctrine but also the importance of context, humility, and supernatural awareness in interpreting both scripture and current events. The Gilberts’ warmth and wit shine as they guide listeners through ancient texts, contemporary challenges, and the hope found in Christ’s ultimate victory—a message especially poignant in trying times.

For Further Information

Show notes and linked translations: gilberthouse.org
Community and prayer requests: Gilbert House App
Books discussed: Mike Heiser’s Companion to the Book of Enoch (see show notes for special offer)
Upcoming events and Israel tour: See “Upcoming Events” at gilberthouse.org or the app calendar