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From the beautiful Missouri Ozarks, greetings and welcome to the Gilbert House fellowship for Sunday, June 21, 2026. I'm Derek Gilbert.
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I am Sharon Gilbert. And happy Father's Day, honey.
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Well, thank you, sweetheart.
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You're sitting in the big red chair and just sort of.
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It's an appropriate chair for. It's an appropriate dad chair.
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It is a dad chair. There is no doubt about that. All of you who are listening, if you are a father, whether you're a father or not, you've had a father. So happy Father's Day to all the fathers and the fathers of the fathers and all of the fathers that go back generations.
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We were blessed in the fathers that we had. We were talking about that this morning before the. The study began, just briefly, but we've had conversations about our dads many times in the past.
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Oh, lots of times. Our dads were very different in the way that they were raised. And yet they. Both your dad and mine and your mother's as well, instilled within both of us. You got this impression of, you can do whatever you choose to do. You need to just work for it.
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Yeah.
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That was sort of your dad's. Mine was the same way. Your dad. Engineer.
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Yep.
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Absolute, you know, engineering brain. My dad had one. My brain was like mine. His brain connected all over the place, and he was able to look at something and, okay, this is how I imagine it to be. And it would become that. My dad was what they call a Jack of all trades.
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Yeah. And both of them are now with the Lord.
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They are.
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We know that both of them knew Jesus before they passed. And so there's a wonderful painting that was a gift. We really should get a frame for that.
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Well, you know, the way Laurie did that, you'll notice that the painting goes all the way around the side, around the edges.
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Yeah.
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So it's not intended to be inside of a frame necessarily. Now, we could take it off of that frame and reframe it, but I like it the way it is.
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Yeah. Shows our. Our father's fishing in little pond with the church in which we got married in the background. Wonderful gift by Laurie James, who's a professional artist. She's truly. Is a gift.
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She's really talented.
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Yeah.
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I mean, really talented. She does all sorts of paintings for individuals, but also huge murals inside big buildings.
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Yeah. Yeah. So, yeah, that painting is pride of place in our. Our dining room right now. And that will. Wherever we go, that. That will be prominently displayed always.
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Always.
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As we honor our fathers and, of course, Fathers are given a special command in Ephesians 5 that we are to love our wives as Christ loved the Church. And I hadn't brought this up in advance, but I should have, because I think it's an important reminder that we dads have or should be reminded of from time to time. Because this world would be much better off if fathers actually lived according to the command in Ephesians 5, beginning at verse 25. Husbands, love your wives, as Christ loved the Church and gave himself up for her sacrificial love, that he might sanctify her, having cleansed her by the washing of water with the word, so that he might present the Church to himself in splendor without spot or wrinkle or any such thing, that she might be holy without blemish. In the same way, husbands should love their wives as their own bodies. He who loves his wife, loves himself, for no one has ever hated his own flesh, but nourishes it and cherishes it, just as Christ does the church, because we are members of his body. Therefore, a man shall leave his father and mother and hold fast to his wife, and the two shall become one flesh. This mystery is profound, and I'm saying that it refers to Christ and the Church. However, let each one of you love his wife as himself. And let the wife see that she respects her husband, which is, of course, a lot easier to do when the husband is living out that command.
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You know it is. We won't get into all of that. The truth is that if we all lived Ephesians life and Ephesians life, the world would be a much merrier place.
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Amen to that. So, yes, let us honor our fathers, which is a command for children. But dads, remember, we've got special responsibilities. To love our wives as Christ loved the Church. That's nothing to take lightly.
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One of my favorite, our daughter, Nicole. Derek's daughter. She's my stepdaughter. I got the honor of getting to be her stepmom from about the time she was seven or so. She is gifted as an artist as well.
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Yeah.
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Even though she doesn't pursue that anymore. She did a wonderful drawing of you as a superhero, and it's how she sees you. I agree with that.
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That was a. She reminded me of something that I had completely forgotten about. A couple of years ago. We were talking and I remember after she reminded me of it, but I said it to her when she was a little girl. Just one of those things that a dad says to a daughter in one of those moments where you're sharing with your daughter. And I know dads and sons have a special bond, but fathers and daughters have a. As you know, told her. And I'd completely forgotten this until she reminded me that I had said that I would fight a lion if I had to, to be at her wedding on the day she chooses another. And that stuck with her for 30 years. And I had just forgotten it. But it wasn't that I said it lightly. It didn't mean it. It's just one of those things, as a dad, when you have a child and you're just letting them know how special they are. And this is why, as we came here to whisper, you know, to help support the work at Whispering Ponies Ranch. And we see some of these stories that. Here's some of the stories that the camp counselors and the staff there at Whispering Ponies Ranch will share this past week. Once again, I think I should have one of those, like, OSHA posters days since Derek last cried. And it never gets out of the single digits. Joe Horn shared a story about a little boy, probably age 9, 9 or 10, because he remembered him from the previous year. And I think the kids that come to the ranch are age 9 to 11. And this boy, since last year, had been adopted into a. Into a forever home. So he was glad about that, glad that he'd been adopted into this new family. But. And as Joe was talking to him, they were on the zip line, and they were getting ready to, you know, hook him up and send him down on this adventure, which for a lot of kids is the first time they'd ever been encouraged to try something new. And then congratulated and honored for having the courage to do it. This boy said to Joe that he was really happy about this new family because now he doesn't have a daddy.
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Okay, by that, you meant a temporary daddy?
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A temporary daddy.
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Yeah.
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And Joe explained what he meant was that the reason this boy had been adopted out and taken from his biological mother is that mom is.
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Apparently had a revolving door of men.
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Yeah. Yeah. And these men were not kind to his mother or to him. And Joe said it just. It just wrecked him. After he sent the boy down the zip line, Joe had to take about 15 minutes to just go and weep. Because Joe, being the son of Tom Horn, had a father who loved his children. The way your father loved you and your sisters and your half brother.
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Yes.
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And the way my father loved me and my sister. And this little boy that Joe called Little Mike, not his real name, was now happy because he didn't have what he thought of as a daddy. And what Joe was able to say to him because he said, in the moment, all I could do is pray. Lord, give me the words to speak is that you've got a father in heaven who loves you more than you can possibly know. And little Mike said, oh, I know, I know. And our prayer for little Mike, whoever he is, wherever he is, is that he will come to know that there are daddies out there who do love their wives, as Christ loved the church and love their children and protect them instead of. Instead of whatever little Mike had been through to this point in his life. So on Father's Day, this is our prayer, that you have had that kind of father if you're a dad, that you are that kind of father. Because that is the design that God intended for our families. And the enemy has been trying to destroy that kind of family since the very beginning.
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Yes.
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And I believe this is why we see in the Bible God's prohibition against the worship of Molech. In fact, that's the very first pagan deity mentioned in the Bible where God is very explicit, do not pass your children through the fire. Children were used as commodities to buy favor with the spirit realm.
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Yes.
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And that is not what God has
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intended for the family that he designed today, too.
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It does.
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And I'm not talking about things in the Western world and First World nations. I'm talking about parts of the world where I have seen videos of mothers holding up their babies and saying, this child is ready to die for the deity we worship.
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Yeah.
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I just don't understand that. How can any mother be willing to do that?
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No, but it does happen here in the First World. And in fact, the conversation that I will post tonight with Dr. Greg Reed, who will be with us at the Go Therefore conference in Ohio, he's an expert in occult crime, and he told me, and this will be in the conversation tonight, that special needs children, children with down syndrome, for example, are believed to be conduits for communication with the spirit realm.
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Oh, my gosh.
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And they're being used by parents or friends of parents who are into the occult. They're using them like human Ouija boards.
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Oh, my goodness.
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And these poor children who may not know any differently, know any better, are being drawn into the occult for that reason as well.
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As you know, I taught in a special needs school. Yeah, I taught a lot of down syndrome kids, and they are the sweetest individuals on this earth. There's an innocence and just joy about them. Naturally, that Just really makes me mad.
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Yeah, it does me, too. I volunteered once as a young man when I was working at a radio station in Philadelphia for the Special Olympics. And the joy of those kids just to participate and cheering for their competitors. And yet, I mean, we look at the way professional sports is. You know, the baseball player gets a pitch thrown a little too close to him and he charges the mound to beat up the pitcher. Or, you know, the fights that break out in hockey games. But in these Special Olympics events, these kids are cheering for their competitors in the middle of the race.
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Yeah. They'll go back and help them.
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Yeah.
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So it. Boy.
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And this is the kind of innocence and love that the enemy tries to destroy and why God intended the family to be the smallest military formation in the spiritual war in which we're all deployed. And that's why the enemy tries to destroy it.
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So there is an ancient belief, and then we can open with a word of prayer. There's an ancient belief that virgins, be they male or female, have a specific connection to the other world, the other side, and that they can then predict the future. They will get messages from the other side. They will be able to draw in entities from the other side. In fact, there's a really old belief that only a virgin, in this case, it would be a female, can approach a unicorn.
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Yeah.
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And that if she's really a virgin, the unicorn will come up and put his head in her lap. Yeah, I know. I'm just thinking, is that a. Does that stand for something else? Yeah. But anyway.
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Yeah. Well, let's open with a word of prayer. We'll get into the book of Micah. Father, thank you for this day. Thank you for our fathers. And we are thankful that they came to know you before their time in this world is done. Lord, we know that they're now in your presence. Father, we pray that fathers everywhere would likewise be drawn to you by your holy Spirit. Father, we pray that you would grant us wisdom and discernment as we study your word today, Lord, help us to learn that which you would have us know to the best of our ability, Father. And we ask this in Jesus name, Amen.
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Amen.
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Micah, chapter two.
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When. When we last left Micah.
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Yeah. He was basically railing against the. The ruling elites, the deep state, the swamp of ancient Israel and Judah.
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The last thing we read in. I just say, go back and review chapter one. Those of you who are wondering, you get into this, and I'm reading from the Septuagint, because that's what I happen to have up Shave thine hair and make thyself bald for thy delicate children. Increase thy widowhood as an eagle, for thy people are gone into captivity from thee.
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Yes. Basically go into mourning, which was basically, cutting off your hair and shaving off your beard was a sign of mourning in ancient Israel. And Micah continues with his polemic against the oppressors. Woe to those who devise wickedness and work evil on their beds. And that word there, woe, pronounced hoi in he in Hebrew, is in this case a divine threat. When the morning dawns, they perform it because it is in the power of their hand. In other words, they stay awake all night thinking about evil.
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Yeah. And in the Septuagint, it actually starts with the word they. Woe is not in there.
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Okay.
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It says they mediated troubles. So if it's a continuation of the thought at the end of chapter one, again, chapter divisions weren't in there. Whether or not what we call chapter two was a separate vision, it's not clear. But they mediated troubles and wrought wickedness on their beds. They devised wickedness on their beds. They were just lying there, as you say, thinking about, what can I do tomorrow that would really, really make my neighbor mad? And they put it in execution with the daylight, for they have not lifted up their hands to God.
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They punch the time clock and immediately start doing evil.
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Well, yeah, I mean, this was a time when this is. Still goes on. Now, I would argue that there are those who. It's never enough. Okay, I'm. I'm a billionaire many times over, but what can I do to be a trillionaire? How do I get there? What do I have to. How do I. What, what mergers can I begin? What bankruptcies can I start? Yeah, what repossessions can I perform?
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Right. Yeah, we, we purchased this company. What assets can we strip and then sell it off? Yeah, the word. The word translated power there. Trying to bring up the word power.
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Sorry, don't have power in, in the Septuagint, so I'm not sure.
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Well, what's interesting. Yeah, the, the word. Because I was looking at the Faith Life Study Bible Notes, which is one of the free tools that's available, linked@gilberthouse.org look in the left hand column and you'll find our favorite free Bible study tools. But the word is L is L, right? Yeah. But when used of people, it denotes strength or might. So these are wealthy people again, these are the Rockefellers, the JP Morgans, the Samuel Chases of the day.
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Of the day.
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But Ebenezer Scrooge, I think in the
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Septuagint, for they have not lifted up their hands to God. Capital G.
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So, okay, so they understood that the word God was in there.
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Yeah, but we don't. We do not know what was in the original Hebrew manuscript that was used by the Septuagint translators.
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Correct.
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It could have been L. It could have been something else.
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Yeah, well, certainly the Masoretes, the Masoretic text, again, completed by about 900 AD compared to the Septuagint about 300, 200 BC, so about 1100 years difference. Yeah. Verse 2. They covet fields and seize them and houses and take them away, as you say, foreclosing. They oppress a man at his house, a man and his inheritance, therefore.
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Stop. Because in the Septuagint, there is a phrase that you didn't say, and they desired fields. You said that. And plundered orphans.
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Oh,
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that's about as snidely whiplash as it gets. You know, twirling the end of his mustache.
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I'm going to go under the Ebenezer Scrooge. Yeah.
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Oppressed families spoiled a man and his house. Even a man and his inheritance, taking orphans as plunder.
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Yeah. Hmm. Trafficking in children.
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Bing. That's exactly it.
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Yeah. There was a story that just came out this past week that the FBI says that they had located about 180,000 of those missing children. Children, yeah. Who'd been admitted into the country under the Biden administration was something like 330,000.
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That's what I was saying.
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So there's still about 150,000 who are unaccounted for, just released into the country to sponsors, put in air quotes. But we don't know where they are. The government's and the Biden administration, it was just a shock. I mean, shocking. Well, they're not missing. We just don't know where they are. Like what?
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Yeah, I would call that missing.
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Yeah. And this is something that, you know, periodically we'll see stories with the Department of Homeland Security and the FBI reporting that they're finding these kids. Anyway, this obviously something that was going on 2700 years ago in. In ancient Israel.
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There's nothing new under the sun.
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Yeah. Verse 3. Therefore, thus says Yahweh, behold, against this family, I am devising disaster.
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Okay.
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Family, tribe, presumably against this. Mishpaha, meaning extended family, clan. Yeah, yeah. Talking about the Israelites who are doing this, from which you cannot remove your necks. And bear in mind, this is before the Assyrians captured Samaria and carried off the. The inhabitants, the citizens of the Northern kingdom. Of Israel from which you cannot remove your necks. And you shall not walk haughtily, for it will be a time of disaster in that day. Again, this already, but not yet. They shall take up a taunt song against you and moan bitterly and say, we are utterly ruined. He changes the portion of my people. How? He removes it from me to an apostate, and he allots our fields.
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Okay, hold on. Is the Lord turning back on them, what they do to their neighbors?
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So it would seem.
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They steal their neighbor's field, they take the orphans, and he's going to do the same to them.
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Prophecy of the coming of the Assyrians.
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Sennacherib, I think.
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Yeah. But also then the. In that day, which is a reference to the day of Yahweh, but again, kind of an already, but not that language. Yeah, yeah. Therefore, you shall have none to cast the line by lot in the assembly of Yahweh.
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I'm sorry, I'm laughing because there's this little tapping at the door.
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Yes?
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Hi.
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Portia, the porch cat.
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May I come in, please?
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She's the mama cat who, with her three kittens, was deposited on our property a few weeks back.
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Yeah, well, she. The kittens were inside her at that point, I think.
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Oh, okay. Yeah. Pregnant cat. All right.
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I think she had them underneath the porch. Oh, because they. They sleep under there.
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Well, because the raccoon can't get under there.
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Well, that. That's the point. I blocked up. I left enough space that the kittens could come and go as they wanted, but raccoons cannot get under there.
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Yeah, yeah. Raccoons will go for cats.
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Oh, boy. Howdy.
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Yeah. Casting the line by lot. The lot was often used as a way of determining the will of the gods.
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Can you go back and read the. The line you're talking about since we got an account?
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Verse 5. Yeah. Therefore you will have none to cast the line by lot in the assembly of Yahweh. This. To cast a line is to measure out, basically, to survey a plot of land.
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I wondered if it wasn't that, but
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the casting of lots. Again, that's how the will of the gods was determined. But God would also determine the lot as a way of letting his will be known. Proverbs 16:33. The lot is cast into the lap, but its every decision is from Yahweh.
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Mm.
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It was also the lot was cast to determine which goat would be sent out into the wilderness. For Azazel in the day of Atonement, which portion of the promised land would be given to each tribe. That's how they determined who got what when they came into the.
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In the New Testament, it's how the replacement disciple was chosen.
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That's right, Matthias. It's how Saul became king.
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Saul, who was hiding behind a rock somewhere.
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Yeah. So not Mattathias, Matthias.
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Yeah.
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In Nehemiah would determine which families got to live inside the walls of Jerusalem. So similar to the Urim and the Thummim. But. So that's. That's what we're talking about here. None to cast the line by lot. In other words, sorry, you are no longer part of the assembly of Yahweh. Do not preach. Thus they preach. One should not preach of such things. Disgrace will not overtake us.
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Okay, sorry. It's different in here. Yeah, go ahead and read it again.
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Do not preach. Thus they preach. One should not preach of such things. Disgrace will not overtake us.
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In the Septuagint, it says, weep not with tears in the assembly of the Lord. Neither let any weep for these things, for he shall not remove the reproaches.
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A little different there.
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A little bit different.
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Yeah. Verse 7. Should this be said, O house of Jacob? Has Yahweh grown impatient? Are these his deeds? Okay, do not my.
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I'm go. Let me read six and seven in the Septuagint.
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Okay, I haven't finished seven yet.
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Oh, sorry.
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Do not my words do good to him who walks uprightly. Okay, okay.
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Six and seven. Weep not with tears in the assembly of the Lord. Neither let any weep for these things, for he shall not remove the reproaches. Who says the house. Sorry, the house of Jacob has provoked the spirit of the Lord. Are not these his practices? Are not the Lord's words right with him? And have they not proceeded correctly? I know it's a. It's a little different. And I'm curious to know the lexham Translation of 5 and 6.
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Well, 6 and 7.
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6 and 7. Sorry.
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Do not weep tears, nor let them weep over these things, for he will not dismiss censure. The one who says, the house of Jacob provoked the Spirit of the Lord. If these are his practices, aren't his words beautiful with him? And have they not gone on rightly?
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So? The house of Jacob, meaning all of Israel, because Jacob has all Israel, all 12 tribes within him. So Jacob's name being changed to Israel. Israel has provoked the Spirit of the Lord. And what the Spirit of the Lord chooses to do is always correct. Is that sort of. And the false prophets are the ones who are weeping, the ones who have yes. Are being chastised.
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Right? Yeah. They're the one claiming that God's not going to judge us.
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Yeah. That. That's kind of where I'm going with this.
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Yeah.
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Don't worry about this businessman of the city. We've got this covered.
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Yeah.
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We have been telling you all along that you have the right to do these things, and the Lord will. The Lord protects you. Okay. When you say Lord, do you mean Yahweh or El? I mean, I'm confused because you're. Yes. And by the way, I will be resigning on Monday after I consult with my wife, Lady Starmer.
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Yeah. I just get this image of, like, Leslie Nielsen from, you know, Naked Gun. Nothing to see here. Return to your homes while buildings are burning in the background. Yeah. Fiery, but mostly peaceful.
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It just. It's so much like the false prophets and politicians are almost identical.
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Yeah. Yeah.
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Living large, making big promises, and when you call them on, well, you didn't fulfill that one. We are doing it today. We are looking into this. We've got a committee that is examining all of this, and we promise we're going to build more houses and you're going to be. You're going to love. You're not going to own anything because you don't. You don't want to have to own anything, do you?
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That's true.
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Look, that's so hard. Let us take care of you.
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Yeah. And by the way, these reports of missing children. Missing children, That's. That's fake news. Yeah. Verse 8. But lately my people have risen up as an enemy. You strip the rich robe from those who pass by trustingly with no thought of war.
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It says they have stripped off his skin. Forget the robes. Skin.
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The women of my people you drive out from their delightful houses, from their young children. You take away my splendor forever.
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Oh, that's interesting. It says the women.
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Yeah.
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It says the leaders and Septuagint in verse nine. Yep. The leaders of my people shall be cast forth from their luxurious houses. They are rejected because of their evil practices. We're going to kick labor out. We're kicking the Dems out. We're kicking the Republicans out. The leaders are gone.
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I think the change between the Septuagint and the Masoretic text may be the desire of the rabbis to make it look like. No, no, no, no, no. They're not talking about us.
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Well, let me read all of nine because it's got an interesting phrase in it. The leaders of my people shall be cast forth from their luxurious houses. They are rejected because of their evil practices. Draw ye near to the everlasting Mountains.
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Yeah. Septuagint renders it. You approached the Lexum, you mean? Yeah, the Lexham. You approached the Eternal Mountains.
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What does that mean?
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Yeah. I don't know. You approached the Eternal Mountains. Leaders of my people will be cast out of their houses of luxury. They were forced out because of their evil practices. You approached the Eternal Mountains. I wonder if they're talking about again, as you mentioned, El instead of Yahweh. El, the Father God of the Canaanites, who because he was equated with Milkham of the Ammonites, is also Molech.
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I, I think that it, it may be another description of the evil practices that they were engaging in.
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Right, yeah. Eternal mountains, high places. I'm thinking Mount Hermon.
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Yes. Yeah, the Everlasting Mountains. The Eternal Mountains. Are these the mounts of assembly within the Fallen Realm?
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Well, yeah, exactly, that's what I'm thinking.
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Yeah, that's me too.
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Mount Hermon, Bethel, the Temple of El, which was in the kingdom of Samaria, Israel.
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Unless this had to do with approaching, trying to approach everlasting mountains as in the actual Mount of Assembly because of verse 10.
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Well, yeah, in the ESV. I don't see any connection. Well, arise and go, for this is no place to rest because of uncleanness that destroys with a grievous destruction.
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Okay, let me, let me read in the Septuagint with it this sense. Draw ye near to the everlasting mountains. Arise thou and depart, for this is not thy rest. Because of uncleanness, ye have been utterly destroyed. I, I am on the fence on this. It could be the Everlasting Mountains as the Mount of Assembly of the Fallen Realm. It could be that they're trying to take over the legit Mount of Assembly, the Lord's Yahweh's, Zion, Temple Mount. Arise thou and depart, for this is not thy rest because of uncleanness. If you're listening to this and thinking, well, which is it? We don't know.
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Yeah, because even though the, the Septuagint gives us a good kind of a window into the thinking of the Jewish religious scholars of the second Temple period, which included the time of Jesus and the apostles, we don't know exactly why they chose to render it the way they did. And then of course you got the additional from Hebrew into Greek, then you've got the English translators translating it from Greek and not modern Greek either. You know, 2000 year old Greek into English. So. Yeah. And not all of those translators had the Divine Council worldview.
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Exactly. So although I would say that in the 2nd century BC it was more likely that they did have that Divine Council worldview. But the ones doing it in English now.
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Right, exactly. That's my point. So I don't know. Verse 10 at the very least means Micah is telling the people of the Northern Kingdom, get up and leave because this is no longer a safe place for you because the Assyrians are coming.
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Well, it could be. And maybe that's the uncleanness part that he means in here, in the Septuagint. Look, judgment is coming because of this uncleanness.
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Exactly.
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Flee.
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Yeah. Verse 11. If a man should go about and utter wind, utter wind and lies, saying, I will preach to you of wine and strong drink. You know, scratching, itching ears. He would be the preacher for this people. Exactly. If he's going to a lying preacher, that's who these people will listen to in the Septuagint.
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Finishing the thought. Ye have been utterly destroyed. Ye have fled. That begins verse 11. Ye have fled. No one pursuing you. Thy spirit has framed falsehood. It has dropped on thee for wine and strong drink. But it shall come to pass that out of the dropping of this people Jacob shall be. And that's the continuation of that thought in verse 12.
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Okay,
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so again, I think these are politicians slash false prophets that just are. If their lips are moving, they're lying.
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Yeah. Boy. Again, it's interesting how Micah has been transformed from the Septuagint to the Masoretic text.
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Yeah.
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Huh. First, Portia's really wanting to come in. These kids are driving me nuts. Verse 12. I will surely assemble all of you.
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I'm going to go and make sure that there isn't something going on out there that's alarming.
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Okay.
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I will surely want the kittens.
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Oh, hello.
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Hi. Hi, Lincoln. Oh, no, you can't come in.
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The kittens are winking, blinking and nod. By the way.
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Hi. Hi.
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Portia, so named because she lives on the porch.
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I'm going to close the door.
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A
Oh, okay. Yeah, they're looking in through the screen door. It looks really nice in there.
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B
It's been a lot of condensation on our windows and the doors because it's very humid outside and we keep our house air conditioned. So the difference between the two leads to condensation. I think the condensation. They're starting. Hey, I can move this. Oh, I can clean this off. Hey, can you see me now?
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There's a little cat shaped clear spot on the. On The.
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On the door.
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Storm door. Okay, so verse 12. I will surely assemble all of you, O Jacob. I will gather the remnant of Israel. I will set them together like sheep in a fold, like a flock in its pasture. A noisy multitude of men. He who opens the breach goes up before them. They break through and pass the gate, going out by it. Their king passes on before them. But Yahweh, Their king passes on before them. Yahweh at their head. He who opens the breach would be Messiah.
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Yes, exactly. In the Septuagint, Jacob shall be completely gathered with all his people. I will surely receive the remnant of Israel. I will cause them to return together as sheep in trouble, as a flock in the midst of their fold. They shall rush forth from among men through the breach made before them. They have broken through and passed the gate and gone out by it, and their king has gone out before them. And the Lord shall lead them.
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So this is a reference to the faithful remnant who will survive the time of judgment. So again, this isn't already, but not yet. It's again the prophecy of the coming of the Assyrians, but a prophecy of coming judgment on Israel. And you can make a case that that was the 1800 years between the time that they were scattered to the nations after the bar Kokva Rebellion 135 AD and when they began to return to the land in the early 20th century.
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I think this has not been fulfilled yet because their king has gone out before them.
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Good point.
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And I think this is. This is when the Lord returns.
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Slightly more than half of the Jews in the world are now in Israel, which means you still got, you know, about 7 million out of the 14 million living elsewhere. United States, Australia, United Kingdom, Europe. They're beginning to see that the pressure put upon them right now is increasing.
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And you see that as one who is in trouble. Sheep are running like they're. They're fleeing. So the pressure upon the Jews who are living outside of Israel, the anti Semitism, just anti Jewish sentiment is palpable.
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Yeah. And it's growing among people who. It kind of surprises me. I won't name any names, but I saw on social media last night a couple of guys that we're friends with hosting a podcast, talking about Kazarian Jews behind the Bolshevik Revolution and stuff like that.
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B
Look, we. We will still fellowship with anybody.
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A
Yeah.
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B
You know, if you want to unfellowship with us, because we are pro Israel. Yeah, we understand. We still love you, but we. Derek and I do believe that Israel is in the land the tribe of Jacob, the 12 tribes within Jacob, they are in the land. And about half of them are there.
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Yeah.
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And the rest will follow. And within that big flock, there is a subset called the remnant.
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The remnant. Right. We understand that they're in the land for the most part. In unreal. Unbelief. But there's nothing in the Bible that says. In fact, Ezekiel 36 suggests that God returned them to the land, despite the fact that they profaned his name among the nations. But it's not for their sake that he did it. It's for the sake of his holy name. He made a promise and he's showing the nations that he has fulfilled it. And. Well, yeah, we could. We could really go off the rails here on this study, but shall we
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B
go into the next chapter?
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A
Micah, chapter three. Let's continue on.
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B
And I said, it begins. And I said, here, you heads of Jacob and rulers of the house of Israel, is it not for you to know justice? You who hate the good and love the evil, who tear the skin from off my people. That was how it was phrased in the Septuagint in the previous chapter.
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Again here.
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I'm sorry.
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A
And again here in the Septuagint.
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Yes. I'm saying. Oh. Oh, okay. Well, then it was. It was. It put it. The. The robes or something.
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The robes instead of. Yeah.
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Who tear the skin from off my people. The alternate translation there is from off them. From off my people and their flesh from off their bones. Who eat the flesh of my people and flay their skin from off them and break their bones in pieces and chop them up like meat in a pot, like flesh in a cauldron.
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A
Doug Van Doren brought this up during last week's Iron and Myth program that we did about zombies, because cannibalism, obviously part of the modern zombie myth, but there are references to it here, not exactly talking about zombies per se, but about the, you know, the evil of consuming human flesh. I mean, in Genesis 9, God made clear that the shedding of human blood required a reckoning, much less the consumption of flesh. But, yeah, this is basically Micah, or God, through Micah, making the point that this is the level of depravity and evil to which the leaders of Israel have sunk.
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This sort of depravity. Extra biblical sources seem to indicate what's going on in Sodom as well. So my question is, are there certain entities that were worshiped both in Sodom, perhaps in Judah, in the kingdom of Judah, that demanded, the entity, demanded this sort of sacrifice? Are we saying that this was literally going on. It's unclear whether this is metaphor or literal.
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Well, that's a really good question. And. There's very little about it in the Faith Life Study Bible here. I am not aware of any entities in ancient Mesopotamia that required the consumption of human flesh. There may have been some elsewhere in areas that we have not studied. In other words, I'm thinking outside of, you know, south of Egypt, further into deeper Africa, but I don't know.
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B
There definitely is a ritualistic aspect to consuming the flesh of one's enemies or the flesh of someone to take on his power. There's a version of Rabbit Trail, but it is connected. There's a newer adaptation of Dracula that the line that Stoker uses quoting the Bible, that the blood is the life in the book of Dracula is changed to the blood is lives. And it goes with the idea that in the Book of Dracula, you get Renfield, who is a patient in the asylum and where Dr. Seward practices. And this is next door to the lair of the vampire. And Renfield keeps a notebook of all of the lives he has consumed. So if he has flies, he collects them. Then he starts collecting spiders that eat the flies, and then he starts collecting birds that eat spiders. And then he wants a cat. This is about the time the Seward catches on to what's going on. And, yeah, the cat was supposed to eat the birds which had consumed all of the previous lives. So by eating the cat, theoretically, Renfield would have gained all of these lives and this power. This was what was in his mind put there by Dracula.
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Yeah.
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B
And in the newer version of it, when Dracula drinks the blood of someone, he suddenly can speak that language.
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A
Yeah.
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B
And he knows everything about that person.
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A
Which is similar to the Native American myth of the Wendigo.
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B
Yeah, yeah. With the exception that the Wendigo actually looks like the thing or person.
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A
Yeah. That he's eaten. There is the reference in the ancient Mesopotamian myth in Nana's Descent to the Netherworld, where she's at the first Gate of Seven to get into the netherworld. She's trying to go down there to. Ostensibly to console her sister, whose husband, the Bull of Heaven, had been killed. Well, it had been killed. Yeah, it had been killed because she demanded that her grandfather, Anu, the Sky God, release it to punish Gilgamesh, because Gilgamesh refused her advances. And so the bull gets killed. And so Inanna is going to go down to the netherworld. She's already the Queen of Heaven. Now she wants to be the queen of the netherworld as well. And she demands entry past that first gate and says if she's not allowed in, she will tear the gates from its hinges and release the dead so that they will storm out of the netherworld and eat the living. And the dead will outnumber the living. Yes, that's part of that myth.
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That is part of that myth.
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This was a concept that was known to the ancient Mesopotamians 5,000 years ago, certainly more than 4,000 years ago. So this. This idea that this was a bad thing was known to the Mesopotamians. And clearly here again, Micah using it, or God through Micah using it, to describe exactly how evil the leaders of Israel had gotten, which was why God was going to allow the Assyrians to bring judgment.
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B
This is judgment on the leaders, Right? And the rulers and the politicians. Yes, and the priestly class. So verse four, then. They will cry to Yahweh, but he will not answer them. This is the rulers and the politicians. He will hide his face from them at that time because they have made their deeds evil. This is in many ways a repeat of the previous chapter. Thus says Yahweh concerning the prophets who lead my people astray, who cry peace when they have something to eat, but declare war against him who puts nothing into their mouths.
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A
Hmm.
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B
Interesting boy. Nothing ever changes.
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No.
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Therefore it shall be night to you without vision and darkness to you without divination. The sun shall go down on the prophets and the day shall be black over them. The seers shall be disgraced and the diviners put to shame. They shall all cover their lips, for there is no answer from God. Capital G. God. What word is used there in the Hebrew? It is from.
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It's probably L.
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B
Elohim.
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Okay.
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B
Which is plural. But it is often used with a capital E to represent Yahweh, who is trying. Verse 8. But as for me, I am filled with power now. Is he speaking as Micah? Is this Micah here? I would assume so, yeah. But as for me, I am filled with power, with the spirit of Yahweh and with justice and might, to declare to Jacob his transgression and to Israel his sin. Hear this, you heads of the house of Jacob and rulers of the house of Israel who detest justice and make crooked all that is straight. I'm telling you, nothing ever changes. Who builds Zion with blood and Jerusalem with iniquity? Its heads give judgment for a bribe. Its priests teach for a price. Its prophets practice divination for money. Yet they lean on Yahweh and say, is Not Yahweh in the midst of us, no disaster shall come upon us.
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We're special.
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Therefore, because of you, Zion shall be plowed as a field. Jerusalem shall become a heap of ruins and the mountain of the house a wooded height.
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A
Interesting. The third chapter of Micah in the Septuagint is very, very close to what you just read.
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B
That is really interesting.
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Yeah. Very few differences here and there. The only difference here is Jerusalem will be like a garden watchers hut.
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B
Hmm. A garden watcher's hut.
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The older Septuagint, the Brenton. A storehouse of fruit.
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B
Oh, okay.
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A
So in other words, it's not going to be all that as it currently is.
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B
There will be no bag of chips?
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A
No, no bag of chips. You should see our pantry. We. We do like our tortilla chips.
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B
We do.
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A
We've always got bags of chips.
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B
We truly do. They're easy to digest, they taste great. Sometimes if you're just craving a little salty something. There you go.
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Yeah.
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Few tortilla chips or.
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Well, chapter four, mixed nuts, is rather lengthy and probably we're at 55 minutes already because we spent quite a bit
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B
of time talking about Father's Day in the Septuagint. The title for this chapter is the Mountain of the House of Yahweh.
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Thirteen verses. Yeah. But I think there's a lot of meat here that we will probably.
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B
There's a ton of meat in here.
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A
Yeah. Unless we want to do a two hour study. And it might be some who would appreciate that. But I think for most, just from a schedule standpoint, might be better to just hold off.
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Now I have a question.
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Chapters four and five will probably take us a whole week.
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I have a question for you.
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Yes.
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Today being the 21st.
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21st.
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Next Sunday will be the 28th book of Enoch. Yeah. So it'll be two weeks before we get to this.
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A
Right.
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B
Oh, in the meantime, you can study at home.
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A
We're at 56 minutes already stopping you
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B
from studying at home.
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A
Yeah, well, because we do have a
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question to ask or to answer.
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A
You have a couple, actually, good ones and. Yeah, apologies. We didn't, you know, I didn't. Hadn't planned on spending the first 15 or 20 minutes talking about Father's Day,
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B
but I think it should be made more important than it is. It isn't just watching, you know, a game on TV and having a cookout.
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A
Yeah, I think you're right.
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B
It's riding on dragons, you know, like Derek does.
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A
If you don't follow Sharon on Facebook, you won't get that reference.
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B
I shared it on X too though.
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A
Yeah, follow her on X. You'll get that. Yeah, you'll get that as well. Jan asks regarding Revelation 14:6, the first proclaiming angel, all nations, tribes, languages and peoples will hear the gospel. I think we're at least 50 years from this coming about. If we are thinking written gospel, then Babylon will fall, then the mark of the beast is required. What are your thoughts? Let's read Revelation 14:6.
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B
Is this where the angels are declaring the gospel they finally get to preach?
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A
Well, let me bring it up here. And then I saw another angel flying directly overhead with an eternal gospel to proclaim to those who dwell on the earth, to every nation and tribe and language and people. Verse 7. And he said with a loud voice, fear God and give him glory, because the hour of his judgment has come, and worship him who made heaven and earth, the sea and the springs of water. And then the second angel following that, verse 8 says, fallen, fallen is Babylon the Great. I tend to think that 146 and 7 is literally going to be an angel flying overhead.
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B
I do too. I have always been taught that as well, that it's because at the beginning of it you get. This is clearly, at the very least, I think during the tribulation period.
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Right, yeah.
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B
You get the 144,000 who are singing a new song and that could be. I'd have to go back to 13. Sorry to jump in here.
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A
Yeah. Revelation 13, of course, is where the beast emerges from the sea.
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B
Right. Sorry, I didn't know this question was coming. Therefore I didn't get to actually read ahead and see because I don't keep the Bible in my head. I actually have to look at it. But there is a whole lot of stuff here. I think this is probably towards the end of the tribulation period and I suspect that the 144,000 have been witnesses. They have been sharing the gospel and. And now it's the angels turn. I'm betting that for 2000 plus years the Angels have been saying they're not very good at this. If you just turn me loose, sir, I could go out and proclaim this and just, you know, I mean, look how scary we are. Well, it isn't your job. Not yet. The day will come when over and over the Lord is saying, I am telling you what will happen to you. But there is a door of escape. Yes, there is another plan. There is the gospel, there is redemption. All you have to do is believe in my propitiatory death. I am the propitiation I'm the substitute for you. You don't have to go through this. I went through it for you. Just accept that gift. And yet most humans, especially during this part of what's in our future, they're just not going to do it. Their hearts are so hardened by them. So you have to ask what sort of redemption would happen if. Think of, think of it this way. The movie that's out now. Disclosure day. Imagine if the disclosure were a bunch of angels being visible. You can hear them and they're scary and they're telling you, you know, repent now, for the kingdom is at hand.
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A
Right. And people will likely be told, no, no, those are the bad aliens. The good aliens have already come and we're telling you how to up. Just take this mark. That's how you will upgrade and become.
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B
Well, that is the question. The, the disappearance of the entire body of Christ. Yeah. And, and graves opening up.
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A
Yeah, they were snatched out. Yeah, they were snatched out by the bad aliens. Yeah, that, that is, that is one of the theories for a future deception. But a, a good question there, Jan. Rather than the angel talking about the written gospel, we're thinking this is a literal angel during the final seven year tribulation period, basically saying one last time, hey, hey, fear God, you humans, and humans will be standing on the ground shaking their fists at the angel.
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B
Well, and it could be the second angel coming behind and saying, fallen, fallen is Babylon the Great. I think this fall has probably already taken place, at least one phase of it. Now let me explain that.
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Okay.
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B
The, the way I see it is Inanna is building a new world order, right. When she's stripped of her authority and Shamyaza comes out and Satan and Shamyaza and the Antichrist, they all take Polygon Abaddon, right? Yeah. And she's gone, she's out of here. But I think it's possible, again, this is my, just my opinion, that we've got the gospel and then another angel coming along and saying, look, this whole thing they built, it's gone. It is gone. There's nothing to put your faith in here.
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Yeah.
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B
Why do you continue to fight against Yahweh? What's your problem?
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A
Yeah, yeah. Well, again, when the Holy Spirit is removed from the earth, the restrainer, which I think as you said, as we've discussed elsewhere, the Holy Spirit through the Church on Earth being the restraining force that keeps that hardening of the hearts of those who remain from happening. Yeah. I think it'll be like Pharaoh, it's like despite what he Saw with his own eyes. Okay. The Nile has just turned to blood. Well, no, actually, all the water is turned to blood. Well, okay, that's really clearly. This God of the Hebrews is pretty powerful, but I'm still not going to let him go. That's a supernatural level of stubbornness, and I think that's what we will see on Earth during that period.
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B
Well, I think what we see in the next chapter, in the book of Revelation, you've got these angels that are. It's like Last Chance City.
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A
Exactly.
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B
I'm going to have. I'm going to have the angels come down and they're actually going to preach the true gospel to you, not the fake stuff that some of these fallen angels can say. And they are saying, this is what's going to happen to you. And a reminder. Oh, by the way, if you're worshiping the beast and you've taken the mark, if you're toast, but if you haven't taken it yet, don't do it.
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Yes. Big green sign with an arrow that says, last exit before lake of Fire.
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B
Yes. Because then you get all of these plagues in the next chapter. I mean, it's judgment begins to fall.
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A
Right, right. So, anyway, a good question there, Jan.
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B
Oh, it's a great question. And are we 100% right? No, I can almost guarantee we're not.
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A
Yeah.
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B
Because we're trying to make sense of something in the dark. Through a mirror, sort of. We see. See through a glass dark.
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A
Right. A couple of short questions Tim asks. Sharon, I'm very curious whether you've considered making your Red Wing books into a television series or even a motion picture. I've just begun listening to your series on Audible and I am enjoying it.
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B
Oh, thank you so much. Thank you so much. There's always a movie inside my head. Whether I'm actually sitting and writing that Red Wing Saga is playing in my head like a movie. It would be kind of fun to see the actors and actresses that I sort of cast in my mind actually playing the roles in some way. However, I also know that it's quite often when your novels are adapted for film or television that someone comes along and says, oh, no, we can't have that in there. And we really need this kind of character and we need an explosion over here and we need this and that. And suddenly your creation isn't quite what you made.
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A
Completely different from what.
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B
Yeah, yeah. Which doesn't always happen that way, but sometimes it does.
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A
Yeah. And given the overtly Christian worldview of so many of the Protagonist, characters, the point of view, characters. It would be difficult to get backers for something like this.
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B
It would. And even if you had the film made, then you have the hurdle of getting it distributed.
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A
Right.
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B
Which is what Mel Gibson ran into with the Passion of the Christ.
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A
Yeah, yeah. So, I mean, you know, there. There are channels out there and distributors out there who are doing more of this sort of thing. Angel Studios is.
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B
Yeah.
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A
Doing more films of faith. And I know there's some criticism about the. The Chosen.
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B
Yeah.
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A
Which we won't, you know, go into here, but it. Yeah. Very difficult to do. Easier said than done.
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B
It is. And I think as someone who loves books, I rarely see an adaptation of a book that is. Is what I imagined when I was reading it.
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A
Yeah.
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B
To me, the film that's playing in my head when I'm reading a novel, that. That's my way of casting it.
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A
That's almost always better.
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B
Yeah, I agree.
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A
So there are a few here and there where they will hit a home run, but often not.
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I think Jackson's Lord of the Rings came about as close to how I pictured it when I was reading it for the first time at age 11 or so.
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Yeah. Yeah, I would agree.
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Yeah.
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So thank you, Tim. Good question there. One. One final short question Melissa asks me. Do any of your books cover the people Jesus said called themselves Jews, but are not? That's a reference to Churches of Philadelphia, and I think thyatira. It's Revelation 2. 9 and 3. 9.
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You cover that in. Do you cover that in book one of wars of the Watchers?
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No, it's. I'm sorry, Church at Smyrna. I know your tribulation and your poverty, but you are rich. And the slander of those who say that they are Jews and are not, but are a synagogue of Satan. And then in Revelation 3. 9, the church at Philadelphia. So Smyrna and Philadelphia. Behold, I will make those of the synagogue of Satan who say that they are Jews and are not, but lie. Behold, I will make them come and bow down before your feet, and they will learn that I have loved you. No. But I will deal with that in book two, War of the Watchers, book two, which, God willing, will be out in 2027. Because I know these are verses that are often misapplied to say that all Jews today are the synagogue of Satan. And. That is a slander. That is a slander. These were verses that applied to two specific churches in the first century A.D. in what is now Western Turkey. What does it mean to say that those who say that they are Jews and are not, but lie. Those who claim that they were. Well, it's like what we were just reading in the book of Micah. Those who said that they were priests and prophets and look, God is with us, Yahweh is with us. So who can. They were liars, but they were liars. This continued in the first century. And Jesus, through John the Revelator, John the Apostle, writing letters to these churches saying, yeah, I know that there are those who say that they're Jews in your city, but they're not really, because they're not really following what the law and the prophets commanded. Now there are those today who say they are Christians and are applying these verses to all Jews today. And again, I think that's slander, but I will deal with that in a chapter in the next book because I'm going to have to deal with a lot of the slanders that are leveled at Jews and at Israel in that book to, I think, make the case that the people of Israel today are, in fact, Jews who've been brought back. The people of Israel have been brought back to the land in fulfillment of prophecy, because.
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Amen.
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Yeah. So anyway, thank you for the. Thank you for the question. And, you know, let me bring up your name again. Melissa. Thank you. Yeah. 2027. I may. Gosh, thinking about the presentations I'll be giving at the upcoming conferences in July and August. May have to deal with that in those presentations.
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Considering what's going on in the world, I think it would probably be a good idea. And that takes us to telling you what's coming up. You can go to gilberthouse.org calendar if you want to see the upcoming conferences and the reading schedule, which we'll try to keep updated. Yeah, that is Derek in the big red chair. It's his big job to do those things.
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Things that I can do.
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I get to pull weeds and you get to do that.
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Yeah, that's how it works.
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But we will be in Brooksville, Ohio. Brookville, Ohio.
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Well, we got the upcoming Christian symposium on UFOs and alien abuse.
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Oh, that's right. July 2nd.
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Yeah, that's coming up in just a couple of weeks. Guy Malone, Joe Jordan and Jackie Alnor on the ground in Roswell, along with Bruce Collins, host of the Bruce Collins Show. He'll be streaming this live on his YouTube channel. And we will be streaming it live on our YouTube channel. We've been doing some YouTube lives here recently. YouTube.comilberthouse that's July 2nd between 3 and 8pm Central Time and they'll be taking questions, giving some presentations. And I think Bruce and I are going to do a another test of the, the Roswell Broadcasting System probably in the next week or so. I'll have to reach out to Bruce and see if we can do it this coming week. Got to see what else is on the calendar for this coming week. But I've got a presentation on the occult origins of the whole ancient aliens idea. It's just rehashed theosophy, you know, Madame Blavatsky's religion. But anyway, if you're interested in that coming from the Roswell UFO Festival, Thursday, July 2, 3 to 8pm Mark it on your calendar and join us@gilbert house.org Excuse me, YouTube.com Gilbert House and participate in the chat. Throw your questions up there and we will get those answered. Then at the end of July, yes
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indeed, we will be in Brookville, Ohio, which is just northwest of Dayton. And you can fly in and rent a car or you can drive in and we're going to be at Neil Peterson's church church, the Harvest Revival center, having a great time. Kenny C is going to have a table there. He's not speaking but he's showing up. So if you love Kenny C, you got to show up. But I'll tell you, the, the speakers are. Oh yeah, really, it's a great.
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Carl Gallups. We love Carl. Carl Tyrib. Love him. Greg Reed, Dr. Greg Reed will be tonight's guest on A View from the Bunker. And, and again, don't miss tonight's program because we get into, we get into the UFO phenomenon, we get into artificial intelligence and we talk about the occult.
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Oh my.
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So it's like a triple threat coming for the church and picking off people whose interests are in some of these various areas. Tom Hughes, who we mentioned before, we just sort of stumbled into, it's like that guy looks like we're in Israel and yeah, the giant footprint shape there. And it's like we know that guy. Tom Hughes, Olivier Mellick and John Haller, who God bless him, will be. I assume he's still going to be there.
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I think he is. He destroyed the larger part of his Achilles heel. Yeah, his Achilles tendon. It was described as looking a bit like a mop. So yeah, that's not healthy.
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It is not.
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So he's going to be, I assume, in a cast of some kind and told stay off it.
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Yeah. So he will be there rolling around probably, rather than trying to hobble.
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One could hope he will be.
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Yeah. And then of course, Dr. Mike Spalding, who is the organizer of the conference. If you cannot be there, streaming video is available. And the media team at Neil Peterson's church is excellent. So the streaming video quality will be. I mean, really, it's like network television quality.
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It's really, really good. And then, of course, in August, we will be in Springfield, right here in our backyard. Springfield, Missouri. And it's at the Oasis, the Oasis
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Hotel and Conference Center. That is a great facility. It's almost a campus.
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Yeah, it is.
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So it's a great. Yeah, great setup for something like this. They've got a wonderful pool there. So if you got, you know, time between sessions or you want to wind down in the evening, you can, you know, take advantage of the pool. Plenty to do in the area as well. But the speakers, I don't think you want to miss any of them. Tony Merkel, the host of the Confessionals, John Pounders. And now you see Vicki Joy Anderson.
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I know.
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Tracy Tennant.
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Can he see Kenny C. He's actually going to speak there.
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Yeah. Larry Ragland. Glad to see that he's going to be there.
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We love Larry Ragland.
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Yeah, we to meet him at Skywatch TV recently, in fact, he is the guest on this week's broadcast of Skywatch TV and just was phenomenal. His book the Final Flood is out and highly recommended many others. And again, if you cannot be there in person, streaming video is available. You can save $20 on in person registration with promo code GILBERT20. That's Gilbert. And the numerals 2, 0. Use that at checkout. And you can save $20 on each in person registration.
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You can buy your donuts at Hertz Donut.
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We drove past Hertz Donut yesterday. We did.
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We went up into Springfield yesterday. And now we get to the OG Report.
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Yes.
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Speaking of Springfield. Well, which is where you're going to be going soon.
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Yeah. We actually got some wonderful news this week. It was kind of funny because we had two letters on the same day. One from the insurance company and then one from a third party adjudicator.
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They were both from the adjudicator.
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Oh, both from the adjudicator.
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Both of them.
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Okay. The first one said basically that they had been.
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That my case had been referred to this.
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Yeah.
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It was dated June 10th. And the second letter was dated June 10th.
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Yeah.
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Because the first one said this could take up to several weeks. Second letter dated June 10. We've reviewed it and you should be approved.
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Right. And this is referring to the intravenous immunoglobulin or IVIG as it's the acronym, which is the first line treatment for cidp, which is my condition, the autoimmune issue, where my body is attacking the nerves in my extremities. Nerves and muscles in my extremities. My neurologist has been pushing for this since December, since he first saw me and said, oh yeah, that's what you got. Pretty classic case. They had done the nerve conduction tests and found that basically below mid calf, my nerves are just not conducting any signals.
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And they did a follow up because it was required. And then the insurance company came in. We're not going to pay for that.
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Yeah. The insurance company had insisted on three months of prednisone, high doses of prednisone, which sometimes works. But the advantage to the insurance company is that it's really cheap. So if it works, they save a lot of money on the ivig, which if we paid out of pocket, we figured would be close to half a million dollars a year. That you can understand where the insurance company is trying to get out of it. But yeah, that was pretty amazing that on the day that they sent the letter saying we've been asked to review, this could take several weeks, same day said, oh yeah, you need this.
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Yeah.
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So I've been approved for a year's worth of treatments and that means by the time of these conferences, I will have had one, maybe two courses of treatment which hopefully will start to show a reversal in my symptoms. So my condition should improve. And that means that by the 2027 tour of Israel maybe be much, much better. We did move the dates of the tour from this October to next October, beginning October 25th, running through November 6th, if you are so inclined, Jonas, for the extra three days in Jordan.
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It's worth it. It is so worth it.
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Oh, yeah. I mean, Petra is spectacular, but so is that red desert of Wadi Rum. And the history involved there relates to War of the Watchers, book one.
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It does.
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Because I do get into a bit of T.E. lawrence and the Arab rebellion against the Ottomans during World War I.
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Yes. Also the view from Mount Nebo.
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Oh, yeah, you can. Oh, yeah.
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Which we believe is Sodom.
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Yeah. So that's over on the Jordan side. You definitely want to see that. Get the view that Moses got before he passed from this life into the next. So information and a place to reserve your seat on the bus@gilberthouse.org travel.
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Boy, is that it?
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I. I think so. Your prayers appreciated for.
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Well, just a lot of things for the sale of this home. And for the we. We have a contingent offer in. In place. We've had a couple of other very interested parties, so we'll see exactly where that goes. The Lord is in control of it.
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Amen.
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Place our faith in him.
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Amen. So whatever. Whatever's on the other side of that door, it's the path that he's chosen for us. And so that will be. That will be fine. When we get into trouble is where we think we. We know what is going to happen. And when the door reveals something else, we allow ourselves to be disappointed.
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No, I can't wait. The Lord has something wonderful planned and I am always happy to find out what it is.
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Well, again tonight, the View from the Bunker episode, Dr. Greg Reed. I can't say highly enough how important I think this particular conversation is. Greg has been dealing with the spirit realm on a very personal level for many, many years. He is an SRA survivor. And because we discussed that on our last program, his episode got yanked off YouTube. Which is why we encourage you to download our app, please, Gilberthouse.org app just in case. Because there are certain topics the powers that be there don't like discussed.
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Yeah.
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Yeah. We'll close with a word of prayer. Father, we thank you for bringing us together over your word. And again, we thank you for our fathers. And we fathers, pray for your spirit to guide us to be the men that we are called to be according to your will and your word. Lord, we saw in today's reading the condemnation of those who lead people astray. We know this applies to our day today, both politically and spiritually. Lord, we pray for our elected officials of all parties that you would guide them and draw them to you. But we know, Lord, that throughout human history, those who are drawn to seek power are generally those who are following their own desires and not your wishes and your commands. We also know, however, Father, that you are the one who raises up kings and tears them down again and that those who are in power are those who you have allowed. So, Father, while we may again find ourselves disappointed by the results of a particular election or a particular decision, thinking about the memorandum of understanding just signed by our president and the leadership of Iran. Father, we know that you have allowed this for your reasons. So what we do, Father, is pray for the peace of Jerusalem, for your protection over that land, and for your spirit to be poured out on your people, that they would come to know you and your anointed, your Messiah. Father, we pray for your blessing as we go from here, asking you to grant us wisdom, discernment, courage, and the words to speak when the opportunities present to share the hope that we have in you with our families, our friends, our colleagues, our co workers. May we reflect the love that you have shared with us to them and thereby draw them to you as they see in us something that they want in their own lives. Father, we ask for your blessing in Jesus name. Amen.
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Amen.
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Until next time. I'm Derek Gilbert.
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I am Sharon Gilbert. Thank you for joining us. We love you guys so very much. Bye bye everybody.
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Thank you for joining us. We post a new Bible study each Sunday morning, subscribe to the podcast and explore the archives online@gilberthouse.org
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Sam.