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Ep. 167.5: #MaxFunDrive special: GFY Listeners Sam Gladston vs Noelle Sciarini
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Happy #MaxFunDrive! And we’ve got a couple of contestants who supported Go Fact Yourself in 2024! Professional wrestler and podcaster Sam Gladston competes against email marketing specialist Noelle Sciarini to play games and boldly go where no MaxFunMembers have gone before.
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Hey there listeners. Welcome to the Max Fun Drive. Yes, this episode is in your feed on Monday, March 17, the first day of the drive. And that means it's time to go to maximumfun.org join to become a Max Fund member for the first time, or to upgrade your existing membership. For those of you who are new to Go Fact yourself, this is the one time of year we ask our listeners who truly love this show to help us continue making it. For as little as $5 a month, you can become a Max Fun member. There are higher tiers, of course, but no matter what level you come in at, you'll earn great gifts and our eternal gratitude for your support. This includes listeners like the ones you'll hear in this episode, Sam and Noel, who supported the show just like so many of you do. And to show our thanks, they're now contestants. Keep listening throughout the week for information on how you have a chance to be a contestant as well, but only if you're a Max Fund member. So go to maximumfun.org join and click on the Go Fact to Yourself box to get started. Right. Now, just one more note before we get started. This was recorded in 2024, so when we refer to this Max Fun Drive, we mean the one from last year. Also, we were not at the Crawford or the center for Inquiry, so that means we were dealing with the quirks of home audio. But we think it still turned out pretty great. So without further delay, let's kick off the Max Fun Drive.
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Woohoo.
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Are you a real know it all? Do you annoy your family by shouting the answers while watching Jeopardy? Do you drive people close crazy when you start a sentence with well, actually, well, guess what? You can go fact yourself. Hi everyone. Welcome to a special mini episode of Go Fact Yourself, the show where we quiz the smartest people we know and find out why they love what they love. I'm Helen Hong. And now, recording from our homes in Los Angeles, here's our moderator, Jake Heath Van Straten.
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Thank you so much. Hello, Helen.
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Hello. Hello, Jay. Keith, how are you?
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I am very well and very excited. This is a special episode. Remember the thing we did called Max Fundrive where we asked people to give us money so that we can make the show?
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How could I forget it?
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Yeah, well, one of the things that we promised way back then was for two of the first 100 people who supported us in the Max Fund Drive would be selected to participate on a mini episode as guests and get to play some of our games. And that's this. We chose two people.
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That's what's happening right now this very second.
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Absolutely. So we're gonna vary from our usual format just a little bit, but I'm super excited. We're so grateful for everybody who supported us in the drive. And if you didn't get picked this time, please don't lose hope. There's always next year. And we do appreciate your support. All right, let's get started and meet today's guest, Helen, who is up first.
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He is a pro wrestler and podcaster from Toronto, Canada, who was one of the first 100 people to support. Go fact yourself in in this year's Max Fund drive. It's Sam Gladstone.
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Hello, Sam.
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Howdy dowdy, everyone.
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Howdy dowdy indeed. Is that the lingo in Toronto?
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C
No, it's weird things that I pick up and occasionally just spout out of my mouth.
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B
That's a lot of what this show is. Sam, tell us about being a pro wrestler. You wrestle under a. What do you call it? A stage name.
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Wait, wait, are we talking Pro Wrestling like WrestleMania Pro Wrestling or pro wrestling like going to the Olympics, but pro wrestling?
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Good question.
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C
WrestleMania Pro Wrestling.
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B
WrestleMania.
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The funner kind.
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B
Yeah. So tell us about your Persona and how you got into it and where you do your wrestling.
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So I work with a company called Superkicked here in Toronto. That's the main company that I work with now. I'm starting to branch out and go to other companies in the area. I just wrestled up in North Bay, which is three hours away from here yesterday, so I'm a little sore today. I got into it actually, late in life. I wasn't a kid kid who grew up watching wrestling. And instead I was turned onto it in my late 20s. And then at 30, I was like, eh, why not? Let's try this thing out.
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What, in your 30s you were like, you know what that sounds like? I'm just gonna leap off the corner of this ring and leap onto somebody else's body and fake hurt them.
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Hold on a second. I'm not the leaper, I'm the leapy.
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B
And what is the terminology? Do you call yourself a leap?
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C
No, I just made that up.
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B
Oh, okay, great. That sticks.
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I didn't know there were tops and bottoms in pro wrestling.
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C
Oh, yeah, there are all kinds of roles in pro wrestling. Verse, top, bottom, otters, bears, you know, you name it.
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B
And I understand you don't wrestle under your own name. Tell us about the Persona that you have.
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C
So my in ring name is Slam Campbell. My Persona is that I Am big and gay.
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B
Ah.
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Ah, Love it. So you are a bear.
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C
I am a bear, yeah. I'm a big wrestling muscle bear. There's no flip Dee do's from my end because when I tried to do a cartwheel, I landed on my neck several times.
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B
Oh, no.
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And again, it's fine. It's wrestling. You get over it. But you just kind of learn after a while, like, ah, I am the guy that people will jump onto. I am the person who will throw people.
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Everything about pro wrestling to me is like somehow they survive.
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Yes. Well, Sam, you also have a podcast called Is It Camp? Tell us a little bit about that.
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So Is It Camp is me and one of my best friends, roommates from university, and we watch and take in all kinds of media and then just come together and discuss it the next week and decide, is this camp? Because people talk about camp as like a almost a definable thing and nobody really seems to have a specific way of talking about it. There's no clear definition. And while we're not trying to provide a clear definition, being able to point at things and say definitively, you know what? That's camp. Or in some cases she and I do disagree, but that's also just part of doing it right.
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It is true. Camp is a very. It's a, it's a. It's like you know it when you see it, but it's very nebulous. You just, you can't put your quite put your finger on.
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What would be something that people might be surprised to learn that you two decided was or was not camp?
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C
A lot of horror movies are camp. I think that's something that a lot of people.
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And is that because they take place at a sleepaway camp?
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C
Sometimes, yes. But other times it's just that thing of like you tried so hard. Oh, there was a Channing Tatum movie called the Eagle. It's a historical epic. It's all swords and sandals and Roman Galadians and stuff.
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I've seen it. Yeah.
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And it's like everybody involved had no idea that they were making the gayest movie in the world because those two men love each other.
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Well, we look forward to finding out if this show is camp at the end of it. Thanks so much for joining us, Sam Gladstone.
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Thank you.
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All right, Helena gets. Who will Sam be competing?
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She is an email marketing specialist from Ann Arbor, Michigan, who was one of the first 100 people to support Go fact yourself in this year's Max Fund Drive, it's Noel Sharini.
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Hello, Noel. Hello.
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Hello. Nice to be here.
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Hi, welcome, Noel.
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It's so wonderful to have you. Well, tell us a little bit about email marketing and how you got to be a specialist in it.
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D
After college, I got an internship that was in email marketing. Helped a company kind of, like, manage their lists and, like, plan out their communication schedule. And now it's just kind of become my job the last, like, decade, so.
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Oh, wow. What kind of entities do you help with email marketing?
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D
Currently, I work for a department at University of Michigan and I help them with admissions communications to prospective students, that sort of thing.
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Oh, interesting.
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So I can literally say my job is sending emails to people is how I think of it.
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Got it.
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Well, Noelle, what would you say is the key to getting someone to open an email?
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D
Sometimes you just have to have a really catchy subject line. Sometimes you just have to be an entity that they really want to open or hear from. It just kind of depends.
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Some exciting news in your personal life. You recently got married?
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I did, yes, in July.
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Oh, congratulations.
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Thank you. Thank you, thank you.
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How did everything go?
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Smoothly. Smoothly.
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Nice.
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We had gotten engaged last August and then set a date for July 20th of this year and got my little neoprene ring on today because I tend to wear the neoprene if I don't want to get the other one messed up.
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Yeah, that often happens during our podcast taping. People often get their jewelry scratched up.
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I was out and about doing things before with this recording, so I didn't want it to. To get messed up. But, yeah, it went great.
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Congratulations. Well, I'm currently planning a wedding for next year. Were there any lessons learned or tips that might be helpful to me and my fiance?
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One thing that I wish we had done a little bit more of is just enjoyed being engaged. Because I think it felt like once we got engaged, it was like, okay, now we have to, like, plan out and figure out what we're doing. And I was like, no, just enjoy being engaged first because you're not always going to be that stage of the relationship forever.
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Oh, that's a really good piece of advice. J. Keith, are you enjoying being engaged?
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I am. I need to find out if she is probably something else that you told us that you love. Going for nature walks with your husband and your dog, Hawkeye. What is the difference, by the way, between nature walk and a hike? And this is not our what's the difference round. I was just curious how you defined it.
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It's not really any different. It's just maybe nature walk could just be you're on A sidewalk by some trees and a hike is like you're in an actual forest. But they're both very pleasant to do. So either or is great.
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Let's go to Helen at the duchess table to find out.
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Yes, agreed.
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Okay, agreed.
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No points, unfortunately, but yes, that's okay.
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Tell us about Hawkeye. Now, was Hawkeye named after the Hawkeye from mash? From the Avengers? From something else?
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It was the Hawkeye from mash. You're the first person to get that out right on the first try because so many people think it's the Marvel Hawkeye.
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Yeah, well, I am old, so that helps.
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Yeah, Hawkeye is a German shepherd mix. He's, I think, going to be seven this year. I've lost track now, you know, has quite the personality of. And we love him to death. He's a great dog.
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Wonderful. Well, thank you much for joining us. You seem like a wonderful listener and a wonderful guest. Noelle Sherini. Thank you, Sam. And Noelle, before we get to your topics, you both, of course, supported us in the Max Fun drive. You, of course, were two of the first 100. Nicole, you were actually the first five people to support us in the drive. And Sam, you actually were the very first. Oh, wow. Oh, my God. Yes. Oh, my gosh. But I did want to take a moment, if you wouldn't mind, each just telling a little bit about why on earth you decided to support us financially. The Max Fund Drive, Sam, it's art.
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It's good for us. It's good for the soul, it's good for your mental well being. And I like to support the things that I like. And I've loved listening to your show almost since day one. I think I was a couple weeks behind, but wow. Not much to catch up on, thankfully.
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Whoa, Sam, you're an og.
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Er, yeah. Yeah. I think it was back when you get when Max Fun was doing the pilot program thing and showing those. I think you guys had Chris Claremont on.
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We had Len Wein on. On the pilot episode. Yes, yes. Chris was an expert later for one of our guests. But that's so great that you supported us from back then and that you also do so financially. We thank you so much for that and hope it inspires other listeners as well. Noelle, what would you say to listeners about why you support us in the Max Fun Drive?
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Maximum Fun in general is just kind of my happy place as far as podcasts go. Like, I've enjoyed so many different programs on here for the last few years, including Go fact yourself. And so it just. It was a no brainer to support you guys financially. Like why wouldn't I?
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Well, thank you.
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I'm really touched and moved. Really. The fact that both of you, the fact that you were like right out the gate within the first five, like, yes, I am putting down my money. I enjoy this product and I am putting my money where my mouth is. It really moves me. And thank you so much.
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Yes, we really do appreciate it.
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Really, truly.
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B
We asked each of you, Sam and Noel, to provide us with a few topics outside your field of work in which you feel you have some expertise. We're actually going to talk about five topics with each of you. Sam, for you, you said it was the Krakoan era of X Men. Am I pronouncing that at all correct?
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Yeah, yeah. You're okay.
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Great.
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It is no Krakoan. I knew it was X. I wasn't sure. The Krakoan era of X Men. Competitive bodybuilding, especially the late 90s onwards. The portrayal of witches in media, the movie Labyrinth and the TV show Star Voyager.
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Woo hoo.
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Whereas for you, Noel, you said that you know and love 1990s film adaptations of classic books, the TV show, the Great British Bake off, the Musical, the Secret Garden, cross country running and word games. Later on we're gonna ask each of you some trivia questions about those topics. But first we're gonna get your thoughts on something you might know nothing about. It is time to split some hairs with our what's the Difference round. We'll have one question for each of you. Each worth up to two points. If either of you gives an incorrect or incomplete answer, the other person has a chance to steal. Now we're actually going to give you the same what's the Difference? That we recorded just last night with our guests Barry Sonnenfeld and Jackie Tone. Let's see if you can do better than they did. You only have to get one and a half points to do better. All right, your topic today, Rookie mistake. First up in Rookie Mistake is Sam. With rookie Sam, while both might be prone to mistakes. What's the difference between a rookie and a beginner? A rookie and a beginner.
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I would say that a beginner is somebody who has just started learning the ins and outs of whatever it is that they're doing. Let's use sport as an example. Whereas a rookie is somebody who is early on in their career who knows how the game is played or whatever that they're doing. I guess rookie would be game but is just in the very first year or so of Their sport.
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All right, we've got Sam's answer. We don't know yet if he's entirely correct. Noel, anything you want to change or add?
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I would just say rookie is specifically for sports, and beginner is anything.
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Anything. All right, well, our beginner's luck has run out. Let's go to Helen Hong at the judges table for the facts.
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Here are the facts. A rookie is a newcomer to an organized activity or job, and there is a specific time period during which one can be considered a rookie. A beginner can be new to any activity, organized or not, and there is no specific time period involved.
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That's right. So being a rookie is about time, not skill, whereas being a beginner is more about skill than time. For example, I can be a beginner at playing the tuba, and much to the chagrin of my neighbors, I never get better. Helen, how did our guests do?
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Mm, tough call, J. Keith, because I feel like, Sam, you were sort of, like, in the ballpark for some of it.
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Yeah, I think Sam mentioned the time period. Noelle did mention something about, you know, sports and non sports, which implies an organized activity. But, Helen, of course, you are over there at the judges table, so it is up to you.
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You know, I feel like I'm gonna give you each one point because both of you were kind of circling the drain, as it were.
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Drain of knowledge that we seek to circle here on gofactor self. All right, one point each. Up next in rookie mistake is Noelle with mistake. Noelle, while they are both made by rookies and beginners, what's the difference between a mistake and an error? A mistake and an error.
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I'm gonna say error is like the person did it, and mistake is something outside of their control went wrong.
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Got it. Like, the gods have made a horrible mistake. But I have made an error.
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Sure.
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I blame most of my mistakes on the go. All right, we've got Noelle's answer. We don't know yet if she is entirely correct. Sam, anything you'd like to add or change?
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I think a mistake is something that was done accidentally and is permanent, Whereas an error is something that is done with forethought but can be corrected in the future.
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All right, well, this segment may have been a mistake. Let's go to Helen Hong at the judges table for the facts.
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Here are the facts. A mistake is an action that you do intentionally, but in retrospect resulted in an unwanted outcome, like texting your ex. An error is an action that you do unintentionally that may or may not result in an unwanted outcome. Like texting your ex an eggplant emoji when you meant a thumbs down emoji.
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Yes. I don't know why they put those emojis next to each other. That's right. Errors also are typically actions that go against a known quality or standard. So saying one plus one is three is an error. Saying ice cream plus pickles is delicious is a mistake. Unless you're pregnant. Eat whatever you want. Helen, how did our guest do?
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Unfortunately, I don't think either one. You know, Sam, you actually flipped it. Yeah, you had the gist.
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You had the gist, but just got em. Just got em mixed up. No points there. But what's our score at the end of that round, Helen?
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At the end of that round, Sam Gladstone has one point and Noelle Shorini has one point.
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B
But those scores are bound to change as we move on to questions about topics our guests have chosen for themselves. That's all up ahead when we come back on Go Fact Yourself.
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Welcome back to a special mini episode of Go Fact Yourself with our guests Sam Gladston and Noel Sherini. Once again, here's J. Keith Van Stratten.
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Thank you so much, Helen. All right, Sam, instead of our usual format, we're going to talk to you about all five of your topics and ask you one question about each of them. So of your many interests, you told us that you know and love the movie Labyrinth, competitive bodybuilding, especially the late 90s onwards, the Krakoan era of X Men, witches in media, and the TV show Star Voyager. Let's find out a little bit more about each of those. First, tell us why you know and love the movie Labyrinth.
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It's my favorite movie. I've seen it hundreds of times maybe. And I mean, it's David Bowie, it's Muppets, it's a musical, it's Jennifer Connelly, it's perfect.
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And it's camp.
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Oh, yeah, absolutely.
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As camp it can be.
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All right, tell us why you know and love competitive bodybuilding, especially from the late 90s onwards.
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I'm actually training to compete in it myself and it's actually helped save my life. I was very overweight a couple years ago and I hooked up with my coach and we've done a whole body transformation and now it's just like, okay, let's, let's do this, let's go all the way. But I've always loved the sport and the personalities that come with it.
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That's great. Congratulations on that transformation as well. Thank you. All right, next, tell us why you Know and love the Krakoan era of X Men.
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C
The Krakoan era was the first time in decades when all of the X Men titles were working in tandem with one another. It's finally that the writers and the artists were talking with each other and planning things in the long term where things in one title were talking to things in another. It's just beautiful. And it's unbelievably queer too.
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B
So now I obviously know what the Krakoan era means. But for those who might not, how would you explain it?
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C
Succinctly, it's a complete line wide restart and a jumping on point for new readers. And it's basically all the X Men and their villains have moved to an island in the middle of the ocean and they're now working together because the X Men have solved death.
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B
Of course, that's exactly what I would have said as well. All right, next, Sam, tell us why you know and love witches in media.
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I've always loved movies with witches, practical magic. I remember being like 3 years old and thinking I could say the spells from Redknobs and broomsticks and get my broomstick to fly me around. But it's just. It's just a fascinating thing for me to just. When a new movie comes out, I'm like, great, it's got witches in it. I'm in.
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B
And then finally, tell us why you know and love the TV show Star Trek Voyager.
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C
It's my comfort show. Whenever I get sick, whenever it's like, sick sick, and I have to be in bed, I can turn on Star Voyager at any point. And if I pass out for a couple episodes, I'll wake up and, oh, great, the Doctor has given himself daydreams for the first time. Love this episode.
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Yeah, you know, you're speaking my language because, you know, as longtime listeners know, I am a huge Star Trek the Next Generation fan. But my second favorite series is Voyager and. Come on. Captain Janeway Unbeatable.
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C
Oh, yeah, yeah. Best captain.
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B
All right, well, to let you show your love, Sam, here, five trivia questions, one for each topic, each worth one point if you want it. You're allowed a hint for any of the five questions, so feel free to use them if you want. Now, Noelle, do listen closely because if Sam answers incorrectly, you could steal. By the way, Noelle, which of Sam's topics do you feel that you know the most about or the least about?
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D
I'd say the least about either Star Trek or the X Men series. Although I have seen at least one episode of Star Trek Voyager now because my husband's trying to get me to watch it more.
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He's right.
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D
No. And I did like it. So I'm excited to. I wish I had seen more of it before I was gonna be on tonight.
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Yeah.
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D
So I'd say either of those. And then maybe the movies with witches. Depending on the movies. I'm not sure.
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B
Okay. And it's not just movies. It's witches in all media. Oh, yes. But we'll see if he lets you in. All right, Sam, here's your first question. It is about the movie Labyrinth. Labyrinth starred Oscar winner Jennifer Connelly and Grammy winner David Bowie, as you mentioned. And it was directed by an Emmy winner whose studio also did all the puppet work in the movie. Who was this beloved legend, Jim Henson. Helen.
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A
That is correct.
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That is correct. Very nice. Fun fact, in addition to directing and co writing the movie, Jim Henson also provided voices for the Goblins. And it was a family affair. His son Brian and his daughter Cheryl were also puppeteers and voice actors on the movie. So they are what we might call Nepo Muppet Babies. That is one point for Sam. Here's your next question. It is about competitive bodybuilding, especially the late 90s onwards, tying Arnold Schwarzenegger's record. Phil Heath won the Mr. Olympia championship seven times in a row from 2011 to 2017. What is his generous nickname, the Gift. Helen.
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That is correct.
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That is correct. No hesitation. Fun fact. The seven time record shared by Schwarzenegger and Heath is not the record. Ronnie Coleman and Lee Haney each have eight titles, but only one of them has been a governor and gotten pregnant with Danny DeVito. You'll have to guess which one. You did not need the hint in that. But, Helen, what would that hint have been?
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A
It's a song, J. Keith, which, unfortunately, I don't know the song, so I may need you to jump in and help me sing it.
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B
Okay. Well, according to that old song, Tis a this to Be Simple. Tis a this to Be Something. You guys have heard of that, right? Helen didn't know that song. Did you guys know that one?
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A
Do you guys know that one?
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D
I've heard it. Yes, you have, Sam.
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B
No, no.
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E
Absolutely not.
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B
No.
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A
We're split between everyone, even before the show. In between you guys, it's a 50, 50 split of knowing this song or not knowing this song.
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B
Again, the diversity of our listenership, I think, is demonstrated once again.
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A
It's not just me. I was like, what?
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B
All right, here's your next question. This one is about the Krakoan era of X Men. The Quiet Council of Krakoa is the governing body tasked with creating and enforcing the laws of krakoa. There are 12 members of. But which of the following is not one of them? Which one of the following is not one of them? Is it Black Priestess, Black King, White King, White Queen, or Red Queen?
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C
I definitely know Red Queen, Black King and White Queen are members. Can I get the hint please, Helen?
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B
How about that first hint?
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A
Black Priestess is a member.
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C
Okay, so the final one was White King, I believe. Mm, yes. So White King is not a member, Helen.
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A
That is correct.
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B
That is correct. Very nice. Nice deducing. Fun fact. White King is in the X Men universe. It's an alias of supervillain Donald Pierce. Donald Pierce, by the way, is also the name of a Hall of Fame jockey who won over 3,500 races with over $39 million in earnings. He is my White King. All right. You are three for three, Sam. Here's question number four. This is about witches in media. In 1970, actor Juliet Mills starred as the nanny on the TV show Nanny and the Professor. She seemed to have magical powers and was even accused of being a witch on the show. Decades later, Mills was cast as an actual witch on a new daytime drama. She played Tabitha, who was accompanied by a creepy doll who came to life named Timmy. What was this soap opera called?
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C
I would like the hint please, Helen.
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B
How about that hint?
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A
It's a type of tropical fruit or an emotion that might become inflamed.
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B
Oh.
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C
It'S Passions, Helen.
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A
That is correct.
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B
That is correct. Very nice use of the hint. Fun fact. Juliet Mills is part of an acting dynasty. She's the daughter of Oscar winning actor Sir John Mills. Her sister is Hayley Mills, who was a major child star in the original Parent Trap and Pollyanna. And she is married to actor Maxwell Caulfield, who appeared as our expert on the movie Grease 2 on episode 81 of Go Fact Yourself.
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A
And he's still a daddy.
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B
He's quite attractive. Helen informs me Grease 2 is great. It is all right. You are 444. You have a chance to go five for five if you can get this question correct. This is about Star Voyager. The valiant crew of the starship Voyager are marooned in space with a decades long trip to return to our home quadrant. This means that Vulcan crew members have to suffer through their mating season, which happens every seven years. This is dramatized in the episode Blood Fever. What is this emotional period for Vulcans called?
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C
I believe it is called the Pon Far Helen.
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A
That is correct.
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B
That is correct. Sam is five for five. Very nice.
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A
You did not even need a hint for that.
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B
No, I was gonna. I was gonna say it's actually funny. We didn't have this hint written, but I was hoping Helen was gonna say, it's not Pon Near. It's Pon Far. Fun fact, Pon Farr was introduced during Star the Original Series when Spock went through it. He was cured when he killed Captain Kirk. But don't worry, I am told he didn't really kill Kirk. He just thought he did. Fun fact. We have an expert on this topic for you, Sam. Who is it? Helen?
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A
Joining us tonight from Los Angeles is a novelist and TV writer who's written several episodes of the Star Trek universe, including Star Trek Voyagers Blood Fever. It's Lisa Klink.
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B
Hello, Lisa Klink.
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C
Oh, my.
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B
Hi.
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F
It's nice to meet you.
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C
Nice to meet you too. Wow, this is.
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B
That's exactly the reaction that we're always hoping for.
- [27:23]
F
I'm so glad you liked the episode.
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C
Oh, I love Star Trek. I worked on it for a year and a half on Discovery. So being on that show, I was like, oh, my God, here I am.
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A
You worked on it. What did you do?
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C
I did construction labor. So basically various sets and whatnot.
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A
Oh, my God, you were building sets for Star Trek. That's so cool.
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C
Oh, yeah.
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B
You're basically an astronaut, it sounds like.
- [27:50]
C
I mean, basically, except I think I'm much heavier than the average astronaut.
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B
Well, Lisa, you were the executive story editor on Star Voyager. You wrote for Star Deep Space Nine, also for Roswell. What was it like? You, I imagine as someone who was a Star Trek fan, to be working on Star Trek like Sam ended up as well.
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F
It was pretty amazing. I gotta say, becoming part of that universe is still the coolest thing I've ever done. And it's still, you know, we're still talking about it, you know what, 30 years later. I really appreciate being part of a franchise that is going to go on seemingly forever.
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B
That's really cool. What kind of differences are there in writing for the different Star Trek series that you did?
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F
Well, I only wrote one Deep Space Nine, but I found that in general, I think the general fan perception is correct that Deep Space Nine is a little darker and a little more willing to go into moral gray areas. Whereas Voyager tends to be more in line with Next Generation in that the Starfleet officers very sort of upright and behave correctly.
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A
You know, it's so crazy being a Star Trek fan and having gone to the cons and meeting other Star Trek fans, how much like, how granular they get into the details. And they know every little thing. Do they out know you often? In some of the facts that come up.
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F
Well, not about my own episodes. I'm pretty knowledgeable about those. Everybody else's episodes. Oh, yeah, forget it.
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B
Yeah. And what is the difference between being a writer on a show and being an executive story editor?
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F
Basically, the titles, you know, staff writer, story editor, executive story editor, co producer, co executive producer. It's basically just steps on the ladder. And you do get a little more responsibility as you go further up, you know, to maybe rewrite a freelancer's script, that kind of thing. But really, you're primarily a writer, and.
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B
You also, in addition to having written and produced in the Star Trek universe, also host a podcast about the Star Trek universe. Tell us about it. About that.
- [29:45]
F
Yes. It's called the treksperts Briefing Room. And we're kind of a spin off of the Inglourious treksperts. And what we do is every. In every episode, we'll watch an episode of Trek just from. From any series, and we'll talk to somebody who is associated with it, maybe the writer or one of the actors, or else maybe an expert. We had somebody who was an expert in ethics come and talk to us about one of the episodes that he really liked. And so we watched the episode together and discuss it.
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B
Well, Sam, you were the biggest Voyager fan among us. I want to turn it over to you. Anything you want to ask Lysa about?
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C
I mean, one of the things that I always think about is, are there any things that you would have liked to have put in, or any triggers you would have pulled, character beats that you just never got around to working in in some way, but you were sitting on it going like, oh, at some point, I want to put Tuvok in a dress or something like that.
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B
You know, that common wish.
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F
Well, we did get him naked at one point.
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C
Yes.
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F
Personally, I don't feel like there are any stories that I didn't get to tell. I think that there are some things that they talked about doing, like maybe doing the Year of Hell two parter as an entire season of hell, which I think would have been a lot of fun to do, but personally, I didn't have any stories that I didn't feel like I got to tell.
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C
That's always good. You know, you got your stuff out so well.
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B
It's appropriate that you're here also, not just because of the topic that Sand Picked. But you also are a big trivia fan and also well accomplished in the world of trivia. Tell people where they might have seen you on television.
- [31:16]
F
You might have caught my appearances on Jeopardy. Which was, I think, 2009.
- [31:22]
B
Yeah. And you weren't just on Jeopardy. Once. Tell us how you did.
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F
I won five games.
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B
What?
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F
And then I came back for the Tournament of Champions.
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A
What?
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D
Outstanding.
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A
Fantastic.
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F
That was so much fun.
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B
And how does the pressure of being on a Tournament of Champions episode compare to being on a regular episode?
- [31:38]
F
Well, you're against better players, certainly. And so I think that they also crank up the difficulty of the questions. So, I mean, I only played one game and lost that game, so it was more difficult.
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B
Well, that is one game more than anyone here and most people I know. Did you come across any Star Trek related stuff on Jeopardy. When you were on?
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F
Not Star Trek, but I got Star wars on a daily double, and that made me very happy.
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B
Did you get.
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A
Did you get it right?
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F
Yes, I did.
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B
Well done. Well done.
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A
You're not like one of those people that's like, you're either Trek or Star wars, like, oh, no, no.
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F
I'm a big sci fi fan in general.
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A
Yes. I'm with you, girl.
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B
Well, great. Well, Lisa, it's so wonderful that you joined us. If people want to find out more about you or what you're up to, where can they do that?
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F
You can find me on Facebook or Instagram or Blue sky or you can also go to my website@ellaklink.com.
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B
Excellent. And of course, check out the Treksperts Briefing Room podcast. Thank you so much for joining us today, everyone. It's Lisa Klink.
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D
Thanks for having me.
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C
Thank you.
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B
All right, Sam, you did quite well, in fact. Helen, what is our score at the end of that round?
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A
At the end of that round, Sam Gladstone has six points and Noelle Sharini has one point, with a round of questions for Noelle coming up.
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B
That's right, we're going to talk with Noelle about a topic she knows about. Plus, later, Sam and Noelle will go head to head in a slightly different version of our fast facts round, all to find a winner on Go Fact Yourself.
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C
Hey there, it's Julian Burrell. I'm one of the producers of Go Fact Yourself. Normally, this is where we run some promos for other Max Fun shows, but this is the Max fund drive, as Helen mentioned at the start of the show.
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E
So while we're taking a break, this.
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C
Is the perfect time for you to go to maximumfun.org join and become a Member for the first time or boost and upgrade that membership that you've already.
- [33:18]
B
Had for a while.
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C
I promise it really does help out the show a lot and we truly appreciate it. So MaximumFun.org join Alright, let's get back to the show.
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A
Welcome back to a special mini episode of Go Fact Yourself with our guests Sam Gladstone and Noelle Sharini, who are super Max Fun fans, here's J. Keith Van Straten.
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B
Thank you, Helen. All right, Noelle, of your many interests, you told us that you Know and Love 1990s film adaptations of classic books, word games, cross country running, the TV show the Great British Bake off and the musical the Secret Garden. Let's find out a little bit more about each of those in just a couple sentences. Please tell us why you Know and Love 1990s film adaptations of classic books.
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D
Like all the Jane Austen adaptations like Sense and Sensibility and then like the Pride and Prejudice miniseries and you know, there's Mansfield park and the Secret Garden, which I'll be talking about more anyway. And I think a few, there's like, there's a number of like Shakespeare adaptations from that time period.
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A
So you love a bonnet?
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D
I do like a bonnet, yeah.
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B
Yeah.
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D
And an umpire style dress, you know, it's great.
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A
Yeah.
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D
Very flattering.
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B
All right, next, tell us why you know and love word games.
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D
I've always just loved word games. Whether it's, you know, Scrabble or, you know, the more recent wordle or I love a word search crossword puzzle. Just always liked words. I don't know why.
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B
And now tell us why you know and love cross country running.
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D
I ran cross country in high school. I got into that sport after playing soccer for a number of years and kind of getting sick of it. And my mom was like, why don't you try running? And I was like, I hate running. Why would I do that? And then I, you know, gave it a try and I was like, oh, I actually really like this. And I, you know, did it for a number of years and then now I just run recreationally. I don't run on a team or anything, but yeah, just something I enjoy doing.
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B
Wow. Sometimes moms are right, it turns out. Yeah.
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D
Thanks, mom.
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B
All right, next, tell us why you know and love the TV show the Great British Bake Off.
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D
That is my comfort show. I got really into it during the pandemic when, you know, we got couldn't go anywhere and it was, all of it was on Netflix at the time, so just had it in the background constantly. And now I try to keep up with each season as best I can. And I love watching people bake things, I guess. Who knew?
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A
It is, it is so soothing. And it's also actually one of the few quote unquote adult shows that we can Show Our. My 3 year old toddler. Yeah, it's very, it's very totally family friendly.
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E
Yeah.
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B
Although I would like to see the R rated version of that, but we'll save that for another day. All right. And then finally tell us why you know and love the musical the Secret Garden.
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D
Oh, it's, it's just, just nostalgia. I. We had the, you know, we had a cassette tape and the CD of it growing up and it was frequently played in car rides. It'll be, it would just be played at home because I, you know, I'd read the book, I'd seen the 90s movie and then, you know, the musical being played around that same time. And I think I aspire to be like an orphan that found a secret garden, even though I had no concept of what that actually meant for that kid. But yeah, and it's beautiful music and the original Broadway cast is fantastic. It's been a favorite for many, many years.
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A
That sounds so romantic. I would love to be an orphan with a lush secret garden that I secretly find. And I'm like, woo. Secret garden. Yes. I'm stoked.
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B
Yeah. And now, Noelle, to let you show your love, here are five trivia question for each topic, each worth one point. And if you want it, take a hint for any one of them that you might like. Now, Sam, do listen closely because if Noelle answers incorrectly, you could steal. Sam, which of Noelle's topics do you know the most or the least about?
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C
I feel like I'm in the same boat that Noelle was just in, where I'm sitting here going. I remember seeing the Secret Guard movie once as a kid. Yeah.
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B
Are any of them strengths for you?
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C
I don't run. I lumber.
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B
Okay, well, if cross country lumbering comes up, we'll see if Noel gives you that chance. All right, Noel, here's the first question for you. This one is about film adaptations of classic books from the 90s. What person whose first name is the title of a Jane Austen novel Adapted into a 1990s movie Lost the best actress Oscar for her performance as Eleanor Dashwood in 1995's Sense and Sensibility, but won the Oscar for best adapted screenplay of the Jane Austen novel.
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D
That would be Emma Thompson.
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B
Helen.
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A
That is correct.
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B
That is correct. Very nice. Her first name, Emma. Also the name of the Classic Jane Austen novel that was adapted into Clueless. Fun fact. Emma Thompson did win the Oscar for best Actress for Howards End, another classic novel adapted into a 1990s movie. Emma Thompson can't stay away from it.
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D
She can't and she shouldn't. She's great.
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B
Nor should she. Yes, I agree with that as well.
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A
That is also one of my favorite movies of all time. And the first time that I ever thought of Alan Rickman as a.
- [38:05]
D
Like a dreamboat in that movie.
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A
Absolutely.
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D
Forget about the other guys. Just give us him.
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A
I was like, swoon Alan Rickman.
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B
I feel I'm the only one on this call who cannot add anything to that.
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C
Oh, no, I'm all for Alan Rickman too.
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B
Exactly. I'm all for Alan Rickman as well. I just wouldn't know that he was swoon worthy. But I'm happy that others can enjoy that. All right, here's your second question, Noel. This one's about word games. The question is, what was the answer to today's wordle?
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D
Oh, no, I didn't do today's wordle. Can I have the hint please?
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B
Helen? How about that first hint?
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A
It's five letters. I'm just kidding. I'm just kidding. I'm just kidding.
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B
I mean, it is five letters, but there's more to it than that. Okay, Helen.
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A
Okay. Okay. It rhymes with blycy.
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D
Dicey.
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B
Helen.
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A
That is correct.
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B
That is correct. Very nice. That was a dicey situation that you got yourself through.
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D
Thank you.
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B
Fun fact. Wordle was invented by Josh Wardle who named the game as a play on his last name. If I had invented it, it might have been called Van Strordle and been much, much less popular.
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A
Yeah, or Hong Ordle.
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B
Hong Ordle. I would play Hong ordle. All right, Noel, you're two for two. Here's question number three, this one about cross country running. One of the more popular methods for training for cross country run is a method originated in Sweden. It's defined by Runner's World magazine as a continuous run in which periods of faster running are mixed with periods of easy or moderate paced running. What is the Swedish term for this type of speedwork which will make me, a 12 year old at heart, probably giggle.
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D
That would be the fartlick, Helen.
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A
That is correct.
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B
That is correct. It is the fartlek. You had to know that that was going to be the one we were going to ask you about.
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A
You know what? I saw it spelled out and it's actually spelled fart leck, but apparently it's pronounced Fart lick, which I just. I'm sorry. That's ridiculous.
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D
It's its own thing. It's great.
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B
It is great. You did not need the hint. But, Helen, what would that hint have been?
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A
The second syllable is lek or lick, and the first syllable is.
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B
Media darling. Helen Hong.
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A
Thank you.
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B
Thank you. Fun fact. When I trained for the two marathons I completed, I used the fartlick method. I just discovered that fact today. I did not know that it was called that, and it turns out I'm a fartlicker. Please do not isolate that audio and use it out of context. All right, you're three for three, Noel. Here's question number four. This is about the Great British Bake Off. Winning the Great British Bake off gets you a grand prize of flowers and a cake stand. But many winners have launched successful careers following their victory. But which one of the following successful people did not win the British Bake Off? Is it Nadia Hussein, Liam Charles, John Waite, Candace Brown, or Francis Quinn?
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D
I believe Liam Charles did not win, Helen.
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A
That is correct.
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B
That is correct. Very nice. Fun fact. Liam Charles actually came in fourth place, but went on to have a successful career and even came back on the show. By the way, in the United States, the Great British Bake off is called the Great British British Baking show because the term Bake off is a trademark owned here by Pillsbury.
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D
Yes, I did know that. Which is.
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A
You did know that?
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B
Yes.
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A
I feel like that's not right.
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B
It's called capitalism, Helen. We're stuck with it.
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A
Pillsbury, you cannot own Bake Off. It's a Bake Off.
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B
Come on, Helen. The Pillsbury Doughboy. Very litigious. I'm sorry. We have to respect. We have to respect his boundaries. All right, Noelle, you also have a chance to go 5 for 5 if you can get this question correct. It's about the musical the Secret Garden.
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E
Okay.
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B
As much as people loved the original production of the Secret Garden, even the show's creators acknowledged that there were some elements that were problematic. The team behind the revised production that opened in Los Angeles in 2022 addressed many of the issues, including changing the nonsensical Hindi spoken in the show's opening. According to the Los Angeles Times, the new lines equate to come magic weather, come hot days, come our earth. Drive away there. What?
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D
Can I have the hint, please?
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B
Yes, you can, Helen. How about that hint?
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A
Achoo.
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D
Oh, gosh. Drive away.
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B
Drive away there.
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D
Illness, Helen.
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A
That is correct.
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B
That is correct. Very nice, Noel.
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A
Yay.
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B
Noelle is also 5 for 5, we've got some stellar trivia playing listeners. Really fun fact that Los Angeles Productions starred Sierra Boggess, who was an expert for us on the topic of Phantom of the Opera on episode 97 of Go Fact Yourself. I actually got to see that production. Sierra Bagas did not want to have me see her backstage. That's fine, though. All right, Noel, the last thing that you said that you know and love is word games. Here is a question in that category. In the popular word game Quiddler, players make words by using the letters featured on each of the 118 cards in the set. But in addition to all of the individual letters of the Alphabet, there are some cards that have two letter combinations. One of them, we would expect is qu. But what are two of the other four two letter cards in Quiddler?
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D
Oh, that's a very good question.
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B
Finally. Right?
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D
And I. Okay, I'll take the hint first.
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B
Helen, how about that hint?
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A
These letter pairs can all be found in the word thermocline or in the phrase think clever or in the commonly spoken sentence Justin Bieber brings the tacos.
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B
Who hasn't said that sentence this week?
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D
I believe one of them is er, and I think another one is in Helen.
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A
That is correct.
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B
That is correct. Two for two. Very nice. Yes. E, R, I, N. The others are C, L and th. Very well done. Well, fun fact, we have an expert in your topic. Helen, who do we have tonight?
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A
Joining us tonight from Fountain Hills, Arizona, is the founder of Set Enterprises, a game inventor whose games include Set, Wirdspiel, Zangle and Quiddler. It's Marcia Falco.
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D
Oh, my God.
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B
Hello, Marcia Falco.
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E
Hello.
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B
Hi.
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D
Oh, my gosh. This is so exciting.
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E
I'm so glad you enjoy my games. I'm so glad you play with other people, not just with your phone.
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D
No, no. My family has played Quiddler for, like, it feels like decades now. And I used to play set for, like, years and years. So this. Oh, my God, this is awesome.
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B
Wonderful. Well, Marcia, in addition to Quiddler, you've also created several games, including Set, Five Crowns, Karma, Zangle, and is it word spiel or word spiel?
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E
Word spiel.
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B
Okay, well, I still like the Yiddish pronunciation that Helen gave us. Yeah. Yeah. Well, and your story is so interesting because you actually got into creating games through the world of science, right? Tell us about that.
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E
That's true. I was studying epilepsy in German Shepherds and trying to explain permutations, set theory, and combination theory, too. So they looked at three of the cards where I put sort of symbols on rather than write everything out. And they said, so this is a set. I said, mixed up, three dogs. But yes, that is a set out of that. And it was amazing because I knew nothing about games or the game industry when I did it and went to Toy Fair and someone there took one of my games and presented it to Mensa. I never knew games got awards before then, but my games have stacked up a huge number of awards.
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A
I think if you gave me a multiple choice question of, like, how you came about the games. Studying. Studying epilepsy and German shepherds would be nowhere on my bingo card. Like, that would just not be like, that is an insane. Like, what a wild ride to get to the. Like to be the inspiration for you.
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D
I absolutely agree.
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B
You never know where inspiration is going to strike. That's how set was developed. Tell us how you came up with Quiddler, which I know is a favorite game of Noelle's.
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E
Quiddler came up because I like to play Scrabble, but I'm a horrible speller and I often mix letters up. And with Scrabble, you can't use a dictionary. So I said there has to be a word game for people who can't spell. So with Quiddler, you can use a dictionary, but not on your term. Oh, interesting, because you let you use.
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B
The dictionary on your turn and you mentioned that Quiddler. Of course, it started as a card game, something that you can play with other people, but it's now also something that people can play by themselves online.
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E
That's true. Quiddler is online. You can play Quiddler and Set both as a. Opera games can be played as solitaires.
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B
Well, of course, Noelle here is the biggest quiddler fan among us. I want to turn it over to you, Noel, anything you might like to ask or say to our expert, Marcia Falco.
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D
Do you have a favorite of the games you've developed so far?
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E
It depends on who I'm playing with.
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D
Good answer. Good answer.
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B
Do you always win when you play your own games?
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E
No, not. Of course not. Winning is not the object. Having fun is. No. In fact, I was playing Five Crowns the other day and I was getting hand after hand after hand that just did not go together. And I was having a huge number of points and my neighbor who was tied for first place got a horrible hand, so I just traded it with her. I happened to have a good one that time. I said, I think we got the wrong hands here.
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B
Yes, that must be it. Yeah, I guess as the inventor, you do get to change the rules, too, whenever you like.
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E
That's true.
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B
With all these games that have had such success all around the world, I'm curious, is there a time where you've been surprised to see your game out in the wild somewhere?
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E
Actually, where I was surprised was I was talking to some Girl Scouts and they said, oh, I forgot to put set in my emergency kit. And I said, why would you put set in your emergency kit? And she says, well, if you're out there and you're lost, all you have to do is get out the set game, start playing, and somebody will come along to say, oh, there's one.
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B
So, Noel, when you go on your neighborhood nature walks, maybe you want to make sure you include one of Marcia's games in your pack.
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D
You know what? I think? I think I am going to do that going forward, just in case.
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A
Water bottle, flashlight set.
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B
Yeah. Well, speaking of emergencies, you actually have another part of your life where you help to rescue people. Tell us about what you do, who you work with, and how you got into that.
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E
A way I got to give back without spending money.
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B
Okay.
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E
And so I like dogs, always have had dogs. And so I started working with search and rescue, Maricopa County Sheriff's Department posse member with their canine unit. And we first. My first dog was a Bouvier, which is big, black and heavy, which doesn't work too well for Arizona. So I went to border collies. My first border collie was a live fine dog, so she went out and found anybody who was out there lost. She'd also track, and she was also a cadaver dog. We train our liveline dogs to about cadaver because when you go out there, you never know whether a person's alive or dead.
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B
Wow. It's amazing that you started getting into games through your work studying the science of dogs. And now that you're retired, you're still using dogs in a scientific way to find people. That's incredible. Yes.
- [49:55]
E
It's great fun. And the dogs. Working with the dogs is fabulous. And they are so good.
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B
Oh, yeah. They sound like some very good boys and very good girls. All right, well, it's been so lovely that you joined us. If people want to find out more about you and what you're up to, where can they do that?
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E
They can go online and look up our games. And there's a daily set puzzle, a daily quiddler puzzle, both of them, and any new games that come out will be mentioned there.
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B
And what's that website please.
- [50:23]
E
Setgame.com they will direct it there. I forget the name of the actual.
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B
Excellent. Well, thank you so much for joining us, and thank you for bringing so much joy and smarts into the world with all the work that you've done. Everyone, it's Marcia Falco.
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A
Yay.
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D
Yay. Thank you so much. It was so nice to meet you.
- [50:39]
E
Nice to meet you. Keep playing.
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B
Keep playing.
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D
I will. Don't you worry.
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B
All right, Helen, what is our score at the end of that round?
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A
It's a tie game. J. Keith. At the end of the round, Sam Gladstone has six points, and Noel Sharini also has six points.
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B
Wow. That means it's gonna come down to a round that we usually call fast. F. But today, we have a special game designed just for you, Sam and Noel. It's called Sam or Noel. I'm going to read a statement, and you're going to tell us if it is a fact that applies to Sam, meaning celebrated Muppet character Sam Eagle, or Noelle, meaning, of course, celebrated adult film actor and director Nika Noel. We're going to alternate between the two of you. Helen will tell you if you're correct, and each correct answer is worth one point. By the way, how familiar are each of you with Sam Eagle or Nika Noel?
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D
I'd say more familiar with Sam Eagle and not at all familiar with the adult film director.
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B
And Sam.
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C
Very much in the same boat. Yes.
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B
Okay, well, you all have equal chance. It seems we have a very well matched group here. All right, again, please respond to each statement with Sam or Noel. And here we begin. Sam appeared in at least two movies in the Muppet franchise.
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C
Sam, correct.
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B
Noelle appeared in at least two movies in the Cougar Club franchise.
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A
Noelle, correct.
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B
Sam appeared in a TV commercial for Facebook.
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C
Sam, correct.
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B
Noelle appeared in a TV commercial for MasterCard.
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D
Sam, correct.
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B
Sam appeared in a project with the words sex and violence in the title.
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C
Noelle, incorrect.
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B
No. Believe it or not, the first pilot of the Muppet show was called the Muppet Show, Sex and Violence and featured Sam Eagle. Noelle appeared in a project with the word teacher.
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D
Noelle, correct.
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B
Yeah. A few of her videos have that word. Sam appeared in a project with the words I love Liberty.
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C
Sam, correct.
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B
Yep. It was a TV special. Noelle known for promoting an act called Wayne and Wanda.
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A
Noelle, incorrect.
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B
No. Sam Eagle on the Muppet show was always introducing the act. Wayne and Wanda. Sam played a CIA agent in a movie.
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C
Sam, correct.
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B
Yes. In Muppets Most Wanted, Noelle played a psychotherapist in a movie.
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A
Noelle, correct.
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B
Yes. In lesbian psychotherapists Part 2. Sam, first seen by the world in 1976.
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A
Sam, incorrect.
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B
No. Noelle was born in 1976. Sam first appeared in 1975. Noelle, first seen by the world in England.
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D
Uh, Noel.
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A
Incorrect.
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B
No, the Muppet show was shot in London. Noel is from New York. Sam is Irish and Welsh on their mother's side.
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C
Noelle, Correct.
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B
Noelle also goes by the name Sydney.
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D
Noel, Correct.
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B
Sam real last name is Jensen.
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C
Noelle, Correct.
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B
Noelle, according to their wiki, is divorced.
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A
Noel, Incorrect.
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B
No. Sam Eagle is divorced.
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D
Oh no.
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B
Sam, according to their wiki, has children.
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C
Noelle, Correct.
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B
Noelle has a likeness sold as a 7 inch vinyl figure.
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D
Sam, Correct.
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B
And finally, Sam is the one I'd heard of before I started writing this quiz.
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E
Sam, correct.
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B
Alright, we're not gonna count that last one. I want to thank again Sam Gladstone and Noel Sherini as Helen tabulates the final score. Helen, are you ready to announce a winner on today's program?
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A
Oh my God. It was a squeaker. Jake Keith. At the end of the game, Sam Gladstone has 13 points and Noelle Sharini has 12 points.
- [53:59]
B
Oh, what an exciting finish. Congratulations, Sam. You were the facting champion on this special episode of Go Fact. Sam, what will you do with your championship?
- [54:07]
C
I'm gonna see you at WrestleMania, bub.
- [54:10]
B
Oh my God. I think I just vacated my pants. Oh my God. That is very exciting and very well done. We hope to see you there. Indeed. All right, I want to give everyone here a chance to mention or promote anything that they might like. Sam, is there someplace that people can come see and find out more about you if they like?
- [54:27]
C
Yeah, you can follow me on Lamcampbell. Campbell spelt the soup way I train out of Superkicked and we put a show on once a month in Toronto at least we're planning on going further. And you can follow my podcast on iset Camp Pod on the socials or just look for. Is it Camp Excellent.
- [54:47]
B
Well, thank you so much for joining and thank you again for your support. Sam Gladstone.
- [54:50]
A
Yay.
- [54:51]
B
Noelle, anything you might like to mention.
- [54:53]
D
This is actually my first ever appearance on a podcast of any kind. So what, Noel. So thank you for providing that opportunity for me. I don't have anything to promote other than go for a nature walk if you have a chance.
- [55:07]
B
Yeah, apparently you can do it on a sidewalk. You don't have to go into the mountains or forest.
- [55:11]
A
That is a great thing to promote. And we're so happy that we're your first podcast experience. And like, so exciting. How did you. What did you think of it?
- [55:21]
D
It was really cool. I just, I'm just thrilled that I even got to be involved. So I'm just like, just. Yeah, it's great.
- [55:29]
B
Oh well, it's our pleasure. It's great for us also. Thank you. Both of you. Helen, Anything you might like to mention.
- [55:33]
A
Or promote, please follow me on the socials. I post my show dates on my Instagram page, which is funny. Helenhong not Helenhong because she's not the funny one.
- [55:46]
B
Nope, not funny. But this one is. And me, you can find me on the socialskeith.net all spelled out. And if you want to hire me for your your trivia event either in person or on Zoom, go to bigquizthing.com that just leaves me to thank Sam Gladstone, Noel Sharini and all of you for listening and supporting our show. @maximumfun.org, i'm Jake Van Straten. Goodnight. Like what you hear? Come see us live. Go to gofactorpod.com for our schedule and tickets. Meanwhile, please like us on Facebook, follow us on all the socials. All GoFactorPod update our wiki at GoFactor and buy our T shaped shirt and mug shaped mug@maxfunstore.com Helen go fact yourself.
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A
Is a panel quiz program devised and produced by Jim Newman and J. Keith Van Straten and comes to you via transcription from various homes across the world. Questions were compiled by the Trivia Industrial Complex. We are produced in collaboration with Maximum Fun. Maximum Fun senior producer is Laura Swisher, co producer and editor and our favorite WrestleMania character is Julian Burrell. Our show engineer and Krakoa Expert is Dave McKeever. Our theme song and incidental music were written and performed by Jonathan Green. Research assistance provided by Adam Nedeff. Promotional graphics by Erich Tran. Added support from Dave Bianchi and Christine Vallotta. Special thanks to April Pendergraft and everyone who helped with this year's Max Fun Drive, including listeners like you. I've been Helen Hong let's go wrestling.
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B
In the Secret Garden.
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A
Will there be tea and crumpets?
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B
Of course. And pain.
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A
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B
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A
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