We are joined in this episode by Dr. Elizabeth Pennock. Dr. Pennock is the Director of the Master of Arts in Clinical Mental Health Counseling Program at Western Theological Seminary in Holland, Michigan. She received her PhD at the University of Central Florida and her dissertation was titled “Trauma-Informed Clergy: An Investigation of Factors Predicting the Trauma-Related Attitudes of Christian Clergy in Florida.”

She is therefore ideally situated to help pastors and others examine what they bring to ministry that is either helpful or harmful to those in their churches who have faced or are facing trauma in their lives.

But it’s not just Dr. Pennock’s academic training that makes her a valuable resource. She brings to this conversation not only a love for those bearing trauma, but al a great love for the church and for those who shepherd the church. And as well she is a gentle and caring soul. I know you will benefit from her insights.

This is part one of a two part conversation. I hope you are able to take in both.

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EPISODE NOTES

Notes and resources relevant to this episode:

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Trauma Informed Ministry Slides

Emotionally Healthy Spirituality: It’s Impossible to Be Spiritually Mature, While Remaining Emotionally Immature, Peter Scazzero

Attachments: Why You Love, Feel, and ACT the Way You Do, Tim Clinton and Gary Sibcy

Dawn of Sunday: The Trinity and Trauma-Safe Churches, (Joshua Cockayne, Scott Harrower, Preston Hill)

Mere Christianity, C. S. Lewis

Under the Unpredictable Plant: An Exploration in Vocational Holiness, Eugene Peterson

The Ragamuffin Gospel: Good News for the Bedraggled, Beat-Up, and Burnt Out, Brennan Manning

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