Welcome back to this Rainy Day Conversation around Greatheart’s Table with Dr. Elizabeth Pennock, the the Director of the Master of Arts in Clinical Mental Health Counseling Program at Western Theological Seminary in Holland, Michigan. Dr. Pennock specializes in trauma and particularly how churches can care for the victims of trauma. She brings a great deal of compassion and warmth to this difficult subject. If you’ve not listened to the first part of this interview, I encourage you to do so.

In the previous installment of this interview with Dr. Pennock, one of her points was that the ability to deal with trauma is born out of a healthy emotional intelligence. And so we pick up the discussion here considering something of how that can be measured or assessed, as well as developed.

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EPISODE NOTES

Notes and resources relevant to this episode:

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Trauma Informed Ministry Slides

Emotionally Healthy Spirituality: It’s Impossible to Be Spiritually Mature, While Remaining Emotionally Immature, Peter Scazzero

Attachments: Why You Love, Feel, and ACT the Way You Do, Tim Clinton and Gary Sibcy

Dawn of Sunday: The Trinity and Trauma-Safe Churches, (Joshua Cockayne, Scott Harrower, Preston Hill)

Mere Christianity, C. S. Lewis

Under the Unpredictable Plant: An Exploration in Vocational Holiness, Eugene Peterson

The Ragamuffin Gospel: Good News for the Bedraggled, Beat-Up, and Burnt Out, Brennan Manning

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Podcast music provided by Cool Hand Luke and used with permission.
Intro: “Holy Vanguard” / Lyrics
Outro: “Wonder Tour” / Lyrics / Video

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