Lux Radio Theatre - The Turning Point

Summary

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Podcast Summary

Podcast: Harold's Old Time Radio
Episode: Lux Radio Theatre – The Turning Point
Date: July 23, 2026
Host: Harold’s Old Time Radio

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Episode Overview

This episode brings listeners the Lux Radio Theatre production of "The Turning Point," a dramatization set in a crime-ridden American city, exploring the fraught battle against organized crime and political corruption. The episode follows the crusade of Johnny Conroy, a young, idealistic law professor turned special prosecutor, as he takes on the city's entrenched criminal syndicate led by Neil Eichelberger. Narrated through the cynical eyes of hardboiled reporter Jerry McKibben, the drama charts the personal and ethical costs of this crusade, touching on themes of family, loyalty, and the struggle to uphold faith in the law.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. The Atmosphere and Stakes (00:53–04:23)

• Setting: A city overwhelmed by corruption, run by the Eichelberger syndicate.
• Main Players Introduced:
  • Johnny Conroy: Special Prosecutor aiming to "break up the crime syndicate" ([01:46]).
  • Jerry McKibben: Hardened journalist skeptical of the crusade.
  • Amanda Waycross: Johnny's aide, socialite, and love interest.
• Insight: The city’s hope lies in a “fair haired kid…matching ideals against the brass knuckles” of organized crime ([00:53], Jerry McKibben).

2. Professional Skepticism and Personal Ties (04:23–07:04)

• Jerry questions the committee’s chances, contrasting Johnny's idealism with the experience of hardened operators.
• Amanda’s society background adds intrigue, as Jerry jibes:
  • “For girls whose experience with crime is limited to parking tickets…” ([11:39], Jerry McKibben).
• Matt Conroy, Johnny’s father and an honest cop, is approached but hesitant to join the prosecution team.

3. The Web of Corruption (07:05–11:18)

• Jerry’s investigation trails Matt Conroy to associates of Eichelberger, hinting at inside leaks and double games.
• Landmark interrogation scene: Johnny confronts ex-cop Kilbray, now working for Eichelberger—
  • “I’d rather nail one crooked cop than a hundred hooligans.” ([10:52], Johnny)

4. Paranoia and Leaks (12:11–15:34)

• Amanda and Jerry discuss trust; Amanda wants to help, but Jerry warns how amateur efforts end in tragedy ([11:48–12:11]).
• Discovery that a key witness, Mrs. Manzanatti, is under threat; “somebody leaked” and Eichelberger’s men get there first ([15:18], Jerry).

5. Tragedy Strikes — Betrayal and Death (16:01–34:37)

• Jerry confronts Matt Conroy about leaking information; Matt admits being blackmailed by Eichelberger, forced to feed him information to protect his son ([22:28–25:23]).
• Matt attempts to double cross Eichelberger, retrieving a crucial file as leverage, but is murdered in a staged holdup ([33:22]).

Notable Quote:

“Matt Conway was dead on the sidewalk…that was how Neil Eichelberger paid off Matt Conroy, Johnny's old man.”
— Jerry McKibben ([33:22])

6. Aftermath — The Cost of Fighting Crime (34:55–41:46)

• Matt’s death is officially ruled as “line of duty,” but Jerry and Amanda know the truth—Matt sold out to protect Johnny, then was killed when he tried to break free ([35:21]).
• Johnny’s crisis: learning of his father’s corruption and death, and facing whether or not to reveal the truth ([43:06–45:57]).
• The catastrophic bombing of Arco Securities by the mob to destroy evidence ([40:50]).

Notable Quote:

“Even allowing for the apathy of the people…all want desperately to believe in a certain majesty of the law. The greatest crime in law is lack of faith in the law. That's when we join hands with the hoodlum.”
— Jerry McKibben ([44:09])

7. The Wheels of Justice Turn (47:49–54:49)

• Carmelina, widow of the killer used to murder Matt, surfaces as a crucial informant. Hunted by the syndicate, she risks everything to help Jerry ([47:51–50:22]).
• Jerry and police narrowly save her, collecting evidence and testimonies which set the stage for finally indicting Eichelberger and his men ([53:01–55:48]).

8. Fallout and Reflection (56:16–57:06)

• Jerry, Amanda, and Johnny reflect on sacrifice, the loss of innocence, and the lingering necessity of hope and justice.
• The drama ends with an emotional call to keep believing in the law, despite the heavy price paid.

Notable Quote:

“The least we can do is set the flagpole up again for him. Isn't it, G?”
— Amanda Waycross ([56:40])

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Memorable Moments & Quotes with Timestamps

• [00:53] Jerry McKibben: “Maybe there were tougher, more corrupt towns…from where I sat…I couldn't see any.”
• [10:52] Jerry McKibben: “I’d rather nail one crooked cop than a hundred hooligans.”
• [12:11] Amanda Waycross: “The game isn’t over yet, Mr. Jerry.”
• [15:30] Jerry McKibben: “Eichelberger got here first.”
• [22:28] Jerry McKibben: “What do you do? Tell your best friend with stars in his eyes that his father is more crook than top.”
• [33:22] Jerry McKibben: “Matt Conway was dead on the sidewalk…that was how Neil Eichelberger paid off Matt Conroy, Johnny’s old man.”
• [44:09] Jerry McKibben: “The greatest crime in law is lack of faith in the law. That's when we join hands with the hoodlum.”
• [56:40] Amanda Waycross: “The least we can do is set the flagpole up again for him. Isn’t it, G?”

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Highlights by Segment

• Opening (00:53–04:23): Atmosphere of the city; idealism vs. corruption.
• Committee Setup (04:23–07:04): Assembling the team; skepticism about amateur efforts.
• First Break & Leaks (11:51–15:34): Key witness located—then compromised.
• Matt Conroy’s Downfall (22:28–34:37): Father’s shameful double life, untimely death.
• Climactic Evidence Hunt (47:51–54:49): Carmelina's testimony, the final push against the gang.
• Resolution (56:16–57:06): Reflection on loss and the enduring duty to justice.

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Tone & Style

The episode maintains the classic, hardboiled tone of 1950s crime dramas—full of world-weary dialogue, cynicism, and moral ambiguity. The banter between Jerry and Amanda lends touches of humor and romance amid the tension, while the narrative’s pacing and emotional peaks reflect the style of Golden Age radio drama.

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Conclusion

Lux Radio Theatre’s adaptation of "The Turning Point" delivers a rich, compelling old-time radio drama that examines the enduring costs and complexities of fighting entrenched corruption. With strong performances and sharp dialogue, the episode explores whether faith in justice can survive the human toll, and if ideals are worth holding in the hardest times.

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Transcript

[Narrator/Announcer]

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[Jerry McKibben]

The nice exciting drama but Turning Point is reminiscent of a recent national investigation. A joint syndicate has such complete control of a large American city that even a government committee cannot announce the criminals. And as our stars of this thrilling Paramount picture, we have Fred McMurray and Joe Andrew. Now act one of the Turning Point, starring Fred McMurray's theory and Dylan Drew as Amanda. Maybe there were tougher, more corrupt towns in the country than our town, but from where I sat on the Daily Chronicle, I couldn't see any. I couldn't see them for dirt. So when I heard that Johnny Conroy had been made special prosecutor to clean up crime, it gave me quite a jolt. Johnny Conroy, the fair haired kid I grew up with matching ideals against the brass knuckles of Neil Eichelberger's syndicate. The brilliant young professor, John Conroy, if you please. With ivy still twining in his collegiate hair against no hold barbed Neil Eichelberger, I shuddered. I sat around while Johnny set up his headquarters on the mezzanine of the Harrison Hotel. I left the Rosie preliminaries to the greeters, the dreamers and all the other happiness people who didn't have the heart or the sense to let Johnny know what he was in for. How about it, Mr. Conroy? Can we say you've been given extraordinary powers to break up the crime syndicate so called in this town? And does that mean Neil Eichelberger's mob? Mr. Conroy, it turns out to be Eichelberger. We'll take care of it, boys. But what specifically are you after, Mr. Conroy? Everything. Illegal bookies, graft, corruption, gambling. You think the Eichelberger Syndicate controls all this? Well, it does. We'll find it out. Break it up. May we have a last picture, Mr. Conroy?

[Amanda Waycross]

Oh, please, gentlemen. Johnny has to go to work.

[Jerry McKibben]

Just one more picture. Go ahead. Shaking hands with the district attorney? Yeah. How's this? Fine. All right. Get it, Gus.

[Amanda Waycross]

Got it.

[Jerry McKibben]

Thank you, Mr. Conroy. I want to tell the press I'm going to need your help. I know you'll go along with me. I'll give you everything I can. My headquarters are going to remain right here, spread all over the mezzanine of the Harrison Hotel. So you know where to find me. Thanks a lot, boys.

[Amanda Waycross]

Thank you, gentlemen. All right, let us through, please. Let us through. Thank you. Thank you. Oh, yeah.

[Jerry McKibben]

After that, Neil Eichelberger will be a vacation.

[Amanda Waycross]

Now, we've got to get organized. Shall I make it 12:30 at the mayor's office, Johnny? Yeah.

[Jerry McKibben]

At 8:30 and a plush face dear to your heart for dinner.

[Amanda Waycross]

Request filed for consideration pending fulfillment of official duties.

[Jerry McKibben]

I'm awfully doggone in love with you Uptown girl Yes.

[Amanda Waycross]

Sweet Johnny.

[Jerry McKibben]

Hi, Johnny.

[Amanda Waycross]

Jerry.

[Jerry McKibben]

Jerry McKibben. Good to see you again. Good to see you again.

[Amanda Waycross]

Jerry McKibben of the Chronicle. Oh, I'm sorry.

[Jerry McKibben]

Amanda Waycross, Jerry McKibben.

[Amanda Waycross]

How do you do?

[Jerry McKibben]

Amanda's helping me out. Combination of Girl Friday and spiritual advisor. Also picnics on weekends. Amanda Waycross, huh? The Waycrosses.

[Amanda Waycross]

Yes. Why?

[Jerry McKibben]

I just wanted to get the outfit name and rank correct for publication. How you got into a crime wave to be quite a story on the society page. Congratulations, Johnny. Thanks, Jerry. Jerry and I grew up together on Caroline Street.

[Amanda Waycross]

Well, it's nice you've both got such important friends in each other.

[Jerry McKibben]

Yes, isn't it, Johnny?

[Amanda Waycross]

There are all kinds of messages, none less than cosmic. And your mother calls.

[Jerry McKibben]

Oh, yeah. I promised I'd have late breakfast with mom and dad. Come along, Jerry. We can talk.

[Amanda Waycross]

And lunch at 12:30 with the mayor.

[Jerry McKibben]

I'll get fat on this job. You want a bet? Now, bright your stuff, Jerry. Very tough. Very bright. Tough is what you've got to be. Bright help. I know. I'd like you to help my committee. How? Come on in with us. There's press secretary or a guy to point out Neil Eichelberger and his merry men to you. Write their own tickets. Ah, sorry.

[Amanda Waycross]

Why not?

[Jerry McKibben]

Because I'm a professional newspaper man and not an amateur crime buster. Don't match green boys. And fair haired girls against pros like the Eichelberger Mouse. Amanda, you too. You were always a kid with a dream on your face. Clean hands, pure heart. No political ambitions. Alberta. Valentin. Yeah, that's me. You're a sucker, Johnny. You know what you're up against here? This isn't Criminal Law 205 at the university, Professor Conroy. I know that. Then why did you let him suck you into this? You with your clean hands and pure heart and funny face. A happy little amateur. A kid standing in the sun with a book under his arm and the supply fall pulls on him. They'll say it was an accident. Maybe. But don't say anything like that to my mother. Your dad's a cop. He knows the facts of life. But he doesn't tell Mom. Okay? Okay. Butter.

[Amanda Waycross]

Are you sure you won't eat another baked apple, son?

[Jerry McKibben]

Oh, lunch with a mayor, Mom. He'll scowl if I don't eat with him. It's the same old political game, son. Take it from an old hand. Election's coming up and the governor wants to get some advertising out of this committee of yours. What do you think, Jerry? You working on this or Julie? No, I'm just doing a series on the personal life of the special prosecutor. The important thing, Mr. Conroy, is how do you feel about it all? Well, I don't see how any committee in any hotel. Hey, how do you mean? Gary? Haven't you heard from the department? By urgent request to the governor himself. You're my chief investigator. No.

[Amanda Waycross]

Why not, man?

[Jerry McKibben]

I won't have it.

[Amanda Waycross]

Why?

[Jerry McKibben]

What's the matter? I'm just a cop. Stop. You're the best criminal investigator on a force. You know it. You're a professional, Mr. Conroy. I'm just a hard working hoodlum pinching cop. And that's where I'm comfortable. But what we need most is. Is a cop, an honest cop who knows this town inside out. That's you, Matt. We'll talk about it later. I got to get back to work.

[Amanda Waycross]

Take care, Matt.

[Jerry McKibben]

I will, honey. Nice to see you again. Well, goodbye. Map. Honey, I'm ready to jump at it. Thanks for the breakfast, Mrs. Conway.

[Amanda Waycross]

Oh, it's a pleasure.

[Jerry McKibben]

I'll see you later, Johnny. I work, too. I had work, all right. I was afraid I wasn't going to like it. I followed Matt Conroy in my car. I saw Matt park his car and take a taxi downtown and double back. The taxi ended up on Caroline street in front of Eamon Harrigan's office. Eamon Harrigan Political frontrunner for boss Neil Eichelberger. That afternoon I paid a call on Neil Eichelberger. I expected Harrigan to be with him. And he won. Hello, Harrigan. Mr. Eichelberger. Yeah. The statement of the Chronicle. Yeah, I'm told. I thought you might like to make a statement. About what? Johnny Conroy, the special prosecutor. Heck, sure. I am happy that such an investigation is underway since it can only clear me of all charges aimed at me by, shall we say, the gentleman of the press. Thanks. Anytime. Are you a friend of the Conroy family? I am not. Well, Harrigan, Is that you? Harrigan? How do you mean, friend? Oh, we all grew up together on Caroline Street. Harrigan. That was years ago. That's funny. I. I always thought you kept up that friendship. Think some more. I was sure you and Matt Conroy still spoke. We don't. Funny I should think that. You guys got a diploma in journalism school. You think it'll make you something special. Don't believe it, but. And it isn't funny. So long, McKibben. It wasn't funny. It stank with corruption. But I went back to my office and wrote a starry eyed story about how the young law professor was going to clean up crime. And how that honest cop, his own dad, was to be his special investigator. Johnny wanted his job like a ball of fire, I'll say that. Questioning goons and catches and wise guys and juntos for three weeks and getting nowhere slowly until he came across a slick, no down, no good named Tilbury. A former cop. All right then, Mr. Tilbury, suppose you'll listen to this. March 27th, you resigned from the police force on the same day you went to work for Eichelberger. The second day. The first day we talked terms. Selling whiskey, as you claim. Odd jobs, killing people. Odd jobs like that. Your cute, Johnny. You were taking down a lot of small time bookmakers and Eichelberger got you off. He did you a favor, you did him one. You arranged the Manzanatis killing. I never heard such junk in all my life. You were a cop. Kill Bray and you sold out. And if it's the last thing I do on the.

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[Jerry McKibben]

i nail you. I'd rather nail one crooked cop than a hundred hooligans. Now get out. We'll find Manzanatti's wife with or without you. That's.

[Amanda Waycross]

May I read what you've written, Mr. McKibben?

[Jerry McKibben]

Well, it's written on the commission's rented premises. About the commission. Go ahead. But try not to look down your nose if you read it.

[Amanda Waycross]

You write very well.

[Jerry McKibben]

The Amanda Waycross accolade for superior journalism.

[Amanda Waycross]

You don't think very much of what we're doing.

[Jerry McKibben]

Well, I think you're all as clever as all get out for amateurs and

[Amanda Waycross]

society dilettantes, that is.

[Jerry McKibben]

For girls whose experience with crime is limited to parking tickets, I should think

[Amanda Waycross]

you'd think I'm quite a fer to stick my cultivated nose into a professional cleanup campaign.

[Jerry McKibben]

As a matter of fact, I do. You're quite a girl. This way.

[Amanda Waycross]

Cross only.

[Jerry McKibben]

Why would you want to walk barefoot across a pigsty?

[Amanda Waycross]

I want to help, Johnny.

[Jerry McKibben]

A real professional would say I hate crime and I want to step on it and maybe do myself some good at the same time.

[Amanda Waycross]

You don't care for me

[Jerry McKibben]

where it costs the game.

[Amanda Waycross]

The game isn't over yet, Mr. Jerry.

[Jerry McKibben]

Amanda, we're in business. Come in, Pops up the door. We've located Mrs. Manzani.

[Amanda Waycross]

Oh, wonder.

[Jerry McKibben]

He's right here in town, hiding out at 446 Farm street under the name of Mrs. Chefron Nova. Is this for publication, Jerry? No, off the record. Jerry, please. Okay, Johnny.

[Amanda Waycross]

The first real bird.

[Jerry McKibben]

Better keep Mrs. Manzanares on ice. Pop will take care of that. Won't you, Pop? Sure, son. Sure, sure. Get her in at 10 tomorrow, pop, will you? For sure. Leave everything to be, son. We've waited a long time for this. See you in the morning. Bright.

[Amanda Waycross]

Not bad for amateurs.

[Jerry McKibben]

Mr. McLibin, if Mrs. Manzanotti talks well, what do you say we all go out to dinner somewhere? Might even treat with a good domestic champagne. No, thanks. I've got to work. I'll see you later. Now, Jerry, you'll keep this montage break strictly harsh. Harsh? Suppose the story leaks out. Do I still have to keep quiet?

[Amanda Waycross]

It won't leak out.

[Jerry McKibben]

This happened to the committee before. If I were the professor, I'd question me, you, the DA and the whole kit and caboodle. I'd screen everybody. You know they've been screened.

[Amanda Waycross]

Of course.

[Jerry McKibben]

You know I'd screen them again. I'd get to know them back to the time they were born. However, I'm not running this committee. But if I were, I'd question my own mother. Come in. It's open. Well, Ms. Waycross, to what do I owe the honor?

[Amanda Waycross]

Given I wanted coffee.

[Jerry McKibben]

What happened to your champagne dinner with Johnny?

[Amanda Waycross]

We changed our plan. What about your hurry to get back to work?

[Jerry McKibben]

I had to do my flower arrangement.

[Amanda Waycross]

That thing he said as you left Johnny and me today. Was that meant to be provocative?

[Jerry McKibben]

Look, would you mind sitting down, great lady, so I can throw myself at your feet.

[Amanda Waycross]

What did you mean this afternoon when you said you'd question everyone, even your own mother?

[Jerry McKibben]

Why don't you go home to your fireside and read a nice mystery story where everything comes out tidy at the end?

[Amanda Waycross]

What were you trying to tell Johnny to do?

[Jerry McKibben]

Well, you must know I was hitting the juror square in Johnny's a square. And you're standing in a coal chute and you don't know it.

[Amanda Waycross]

Whale of a tough guy in the

[Jerry McKibben]

kidney that I am.

[Amanda Waycross]

A real know it all guy at

[Jerry McKibben]

home in the dirty.

[Amanda Waycross]

You know where the bodies are buried, but you won't tell. We're just ring around the rosy dabblers. And you're a hard boiled professional.

[Jerry McKibben]

Sure.

[Amanda Waycross]

I want to know what you were really trying to tell Johnny today. The truth.

[Jerry McKibben]

Okay, Uptown girl, as you so partly put it, the truth. Yeah. Don't remove your sapphire mink. We're going for a ride. Well, this is it. Yonder is 446 Palms street, wherein is hidden Mrs. Manzanatti. See the murder witness in Johnny's office tomorrow at 10. Who are those men?

[Amanda Waycross]

Stationed around the house?

[Jerry McKibben]

Upstairs and downstairs. And in my lady's chamber. In Mr. Neil Eichelberger's high class building.

[Amanda Waycross]

No.

[Jerry McKibben]

They're probably convincing Mrs. Mantis that it would be unwise to do much talking tomorrow.

[Amanda Waycross]

What can we do?

[Jerry McKibben]

Nothing now. Eichelberger got here first.

[Amanda Waycross]

But how?

[Jerry McKibben]

Somebody leaked. Who? You and the Coupe fox with your do Come on, Fetish. Quiet. Who are you? The police. Come on, slow. That was Roy er. Eberg. Lord High Executioner.

[Amanda Waycross]

Come with a dog?

[Jerry McKibben]

I'll take you home.

[Amanda Waycross]

My car is outside your apartment.

[Jerry McKibben]

I'll drive you to your car. Hello, Matt. What are you doing out here at this house? Come in. Is Mrs. Conway with me? Yeah, Mr. Down. What's up? I checked on four four six a half hour ago. There wasn't a cop there. I didn't think it was. Mrs. Ackerman was there with his goons. Somebody tipped him off to Mrs. Manzanatti. Gary, you're crazy. Look, you called Harrigan right after you left us at the hotel. You're drunk. I know you're working with Eichelberger, Matt. Through Harrigan. I've known it for weeks. I've been trying to figure out what to do about it. Harry, you must be. I grew up with John. I know how he feels about you. And I don't want this to turn into pieces. And I don't want to see you in jail any more than I'd like to see you in a dirty alley, dead. I won't listen to you anymore. Such rotten talk. I'm going to print what happened today at Manzanati. But I'm going to leave you out of it. This time. It's a lie. If you don't want Johnny to find out that his father's been crossing him every day of the calendar, you better start figuring some way to clear yourself. Okay. I'll give you 24 hours. Back. Two of the turning point. In a moment. You know, our servicemen overseas have a wonderful opportunity to observe new customs and traditions. May find too that these ideas of other people aren't so strange after all. Take, for instance, the use of. Man is made of animals. You see teams of oxen in Italy and southern France. Donkeys are both for transportation and beasts of burden in Spain. Buffalo are the domestic animals of Iran and the Near Eastern countries. Camels in Africa, the elephant of India and dog teams in Alaska. But when you understand the reasons behind the use of these animals, it doesn't seem strange that they should be used in other countries. Why camels in Africa because in spite of their bad tempers, they're well equipped for desert travel. Eyelids that keep out the sand. Stomachs that can store up water for a long journey. Why dogs in Alaska? Because they're meat eaters, ideal for a country with little vegetation. Why oxen in Italy? Because their strong muscles enable them to do heavy work that would literally kill a horse. These people are as fond of their animals as the American farmer is of his pedigreed bull or his prize winning sow. The same is true of other customs and traditions in all countries. A way of doing things that may be different, but the ideals are the same. These customs are important to the people who follow them, and our servicemen are helping to maintain goodwill by observing the customs of other people in other lands. Now our producer, Mr. Cummings, act two of a turning point. Starring Fred McMurray as Jerry and Joanne Drew as Amanda.

[Narrator/Announcer]

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[Jerry McKibben]

What do you do? Tell your best friend with stars in his eyes that his father is more crook than top. All the next day I kept hoping that Matt Conroy would come up with something to clear himself. But what? He was in too deep. I wrote the Manzanatti story figuring it wasn't the story that Johnny had told me to hush up. But I was afraid Johnny wouldn't see it my way. And I was so right, I was afraid to go near him at a party Amanda threw for him that evening. But Matt was at the party too. And I kept hoping something good might come out of the evening.

[Amanda Waycross]

But Johnny, darling, this is a party.

[Jerry McKibben]

I know, I know.

[Amanda Waycross]

And it's for you. Don't talk shop tonight.

[Jerry McKibben]

Somebody intimidated Mrs. Manzanetti so that she wouldn't say a word in my office today. But how did that somebody get to her?

[Amanda Waycross]

I refuse to talk topic, but there's

[Jerry McKibben]

some kind of a pipeline out of our office. Who or whom do I have to buttonhole to get another of your water drinks? Ms. Ray Trous.

[Amanda Waycross]

Hello, Jerry. I'll get you a refill. Talk to Johnny and keep it friendly.

[Jerry McKibben]

Hello, Johnny. That was a fine stunt of yours publishing the Manzanatti story. Well, I gather Mrs. Manzanotti's arrived at the hearing, perfectly briefed by the opposition. That's not the point. Keep it friendly. The point is, how did you know what was going on at Pond Street? Well, caught in the dark, you know what the story does to the committee, to me. I printed a simple story that happened to be true. Put terrific pressure on us to explain away the top secret stuff that's been leaking out of our office. What's wrong with that? It's a cramped newspaperman stunt, breaking our confidence for his. Look, Johnny, I didn't tip where she was. I told a different story that I dug up for myself and put me right on the spot. I thought something better of you, Jerry. Okay, professor, disillusion starts setting in the minute you lose faith in Santa Claus. So go up. Wait a minute. Where are you running to? Mandari Truth to get loaded in the library. Keep it friendly. Terry, I gotta talk to you. Okay, Matt. Look, I'm in a terrible, terrible spot. Yeah, I lost my temper last night. I'm sorry. That's all right, Matt. Suppose I admit what you said last night. We will go along with me. That depends. The way people figure a cop is supposed to be more than human, work harder than anybody, be more honest than anybody and pay for his own equipment. He's not supposed to want money or things for his family. He's altogether too high principle for that. Well, it works fine for a while. Then somehow or other you get to be 40, you have a kid growing up and you want some things for him. And then you find you're in debt. Suddenly you find some easy money in your pocket. It isn't crooked money at first. And then you find they all own you. They got me in a nutcracker, Jerry. You've got to help me. Well, there's only one thing you can do. Deal behind Eichelberger's back. Leave them phony information and try to stay alive. Or you can tell Johnny the truth now. I can't do that. Well, I can't think of anything else, Jerry. Michael Berger had me in the carpet this morning. Well, after your Manzanatti story, he burned me for not having told him that a newspaper man was with us when we got the lead on the Manzanatis woman. He called me dumb, flatfoot and a fly cop. I had to take it. Is that all? Now he's giving me one more chance. There's a folder in the DA's old files he wants you to guess. What file? On Lloyd Tatman, 1934. Katman blabbed about things that didn't mean anything then, but they do now. They want that folder. How do I gut that? Stay alive. You get it, man. Get it and give it to him. Only have it folder said at first shadows. What about that, Jerry?

[Amanda Waycross]

I thought I told you enjoyed the keep of friends. Hi, Matt.

[Jerry McKibben]

Well, I gotta go, folks. Well, thanks, Jerry. I look into that for you.

[Amanda Waycross]

Yeah, I start you a ham sandwich instead of a drink.

[Jerry McKibben]

Oh, thanks. You mind if I eat and run? Is your car downstairs?

[Amanda Waycross]

In the garage.

[Jerry McKibben]

Do you need the keys?

[Amanda Waycross]

Huh? No.

[Jerry McKibben]

Okay. Operator, this is Ms. Waycross apartment. Would you order a cab right away?

[Amanda Waycross]

Thanks.

[Jerry McKibben]

Thank you very much, Miss Waycross. I'll see you later, Jerry.

[Amanda Waycross]

Operator, this is Ms. Waycross. Please cancel that cab. Back seat, sir.

[Jerry McKibben]

Oh, Amanda, I canceled the cab.

[Amanda Waycross]

Get in. I'll drive. Where to?

[Jerry McKibben]

The criminal court building. Only don't drive up in front of the building.

[Amanda Waycross]

Can't you tell me anything about it?

[Jerry McKibben]

I'm afraid I can't. Mandy.

[Amanda Waycross]

Why are you following that convoy?

[Jerry McKibben]

Did I say I Was following that Conway.

[Amanda Waycross]

All right. Have it your own way.

[Jerry McKibben]

Hello? Hannigan? Who is this? This is Buck and Potter. Win Grady. Matt Conway just brought in the LLOYD Kathleen File.

[Amanda Waycross]

19.

[Jerry McKibben]

1934. Watch. A photostat of it. You're crazy. Got it right here on my hand. Told him I'd have a gun in an hour. He's coming back. What should I do? Make the photo strat and let him have it. Look at me. A thing. Just let him have it, okay? Boy, trust a crooked cop. Yeah, Eichelberger. Ms. Harrigan. Yeah? Conroy is fixing to cross it. He's having the cats on file. Protest. Well, are you there? Do you hear me? Yeah, I hear you. Getting late, I think. Slow. When it gets late, that's pretty late for my Conrad. Talk to you in the morning. Not the poor. Thanks. Planning. Good morning.

[Amanda Waycross]

Nice approaches. Bill won't tell me why you were following that con.

[Jerry McKibben]

Not yet.

[Amanda Waycross]

Amanda, is everything all right?

[Jerry McKibben]

I hope so.

[Amanda Waycross]

If you only relax a little.

[Jerry McKibben]

What? If only you would.

[Amanda Waycross]

Maybe we both should.

[Jerry McKibben]

All right.

[Amanda Waycross]

I know you don't think very much.

[Jerry McKibben]

Don't?

[Amanda Waycross]

I went into this thing because Johnny was in it and I had so much respect for him.

[Jerry McKibben]

Respect?

[Amanda Waycross]

I thought I could do it from you.

[Jerry McKibben]

I know Scared? I do Now, I don't want to

[Amanda Waycross]

help, but I'm beginning to get scared.

[Jerry McKibben]

No, no. It'll be all right.

[Amanda Waycross]

You think so? Relax. Feel better already? And I'm suddenly very hungry.

[Jerry McKibben]

Me too.

[Amanda Waycross]

I do.

[Jerry McKibben]

Well, then anyhow, You've been under a great strain.

[Amanda Waycross]

No, but really, I cook quite well. I was a wig in Home Economics. Oh.

[Jerry McKibben]

Well, then, by all means, let us quiz home and economize by being your guest. M. Wait.

[Amanda Waycross]

So there you have it. The story of my life.

[Jerry McKibben]

And if it may, have you made

[Amanda Waycross]

you weak into your coffee? I'll replace it with our.

[Jerry McKibben]

Not a very inspirational biography, I'd say.

[Amanda Waycross]

I'd say a very dull one.

[Jerry McKibben]

This novel you wrote, what was it about?

[Amanda Waycross]

About three facts.

[Jerry McKibben]

No, I mean content.

[Amanda Waycross]

It was about young love in the Mississippi. Oh.

[Jerry McKibben]

Remind me not to read it.

[Amanda Waycross]

You bet I will.

[Jerry McKibben]

There's one point in your life story escapes me.

[Amanda Waycross]

Danny?

[Jerry McKibben]

Yeah.

[Amanda Waycross]

I went up to the university once to interview him. I thought I was a budding newspaper writer.

[Jerry McKibben]

And he fell in love with you?

[Amanda Waycross]

I suppose so.

[Jerry McKibben]

First sight?

[Amanda Waycross]

I guess so.

[Jerry McKibben]

You have that kind of effect.

[Amanda Waycross]

What a nice thing to say.

[Jerry McKibben]

I thought you knew.

[Amanda Waycross]

I rather hope.

[Jerry McKibben]

Did you? Amanda? Did you?

[Amanda Waycross]

It's getting late.

[Jerry McKibben]

Does it matter?

[Amanda Waycross]

It deposed too.

[Jerry McKibben]

Yeah, well, I'll. I'LL help you clean up. I'm great with dishes. There's no pun intended.

[Amanda Waycross]

No, thanks.

[Jerry McKibben]

Do you want me to go?

[Amanda Waycross]

Yes.

[Jerry McKibben]

Mandy, you're not much good as a cloak and dagger girl. We've been yapping half the night. And what have you found out about me?

[Amanda Waycross]

No.

[Jerry McKibben]

I guess we both had something we didn't want to know. Maybe. Do you still want me to go? Amanda. Amanda. Hey, matt. Hello, Harrigan. Got that Catherine found. Okay. In the envelope. It would have been much simpler to mail it. Eichelberger's waiting for him. Why? He's waiting for you. Don't ask me why. Okay. Where well station? Next corner. Okay.

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[Jerry McKibben]

Matt Conroy never got to that oil station. He passed a small food market just as a plant ran out. Screaming hold up. Hold up. The honest veteran cop and Matt Conroy are made. Reached for his gun and start into the store. A gunman ran out, but his gun was ready. Matt Conway was dead on the sidewalk. The gunman was dead, too. And a truck that had been standing at the curb whirled away and disappeared. And that was it. That was how Neil Eichelberger paid off Matt Conroy Johnny's old man. You may tell your readers that my father, Matthew Conroy, was killed in the line of duty. No connection has been established between his death and his official position with Crime Commission. All of his friends are invited to the services.

[Amanda Waycross]

And

[Jerry McKibben]

that's all, gentlemen.

[Amanda Waycross]

Thank you,

[Jerry McKibben]

Commander. And I went to pay our respects to Nat's widow and to be with Johnny. I went out on the porch to have a smoke and a sink. I heard the screen door close behind me.

[Amanda Waycross]

Yes?

[Jerry McKibben]

Yeah.

[Amanda Waycross]

I think I should know.

[Jerry McKibben]

Know what?

[Amanda Waycross]

About Matt.

[Jerry McKibben]

What about him? He stepped in front of a bullet and that's all. What else, Jerry? Don't code me.

[Amanda Waycross]

I never felt so lost in society. Hold me.

[Jerry McKibben]

Oh, Amanda. Mandy. Amanda. Wasn't an accident. He was a trap.

[Amanda Waycross]

Why, Daddy?

[Jerry McKibben]

Years ago, Matt took money from the mob to put Johnny through college. They've been using Matt ever since. And yesterday, on my very excellent advice, he tried to double cross me.

[Amanda Waycross]

Oh, yeah?

[Jerry McKibben]

They pushed him into a trap. They paid him off. The police think it was line of duty, but it wasn't. What do I do now, Amanda? Call the cops? What do I tell Johnny? That his father was a crook.

[Amanda Waycross]

Oh, God.

[Jerry McKibben]

And what do I tell him about her?

[Amanda Waycross]

I don't know.

[Jerry McKibben]

Amanda, will you be. Mandy, I wonder if you'd go in and help Mother.

[Amanda Waycross]

Of course, darling.

[Jerry McKibben]

Do you mind, Jerry? No. Now, station W. RRG again takes you to the offices of the Special Crime Commission where John Conloy has resumed his questioning of witnesses after the five day interruption occasioned by his father's target, Mr. Conroy, question Neil Eichelberger about his finances. Returning to these security transactions of yours, Mr. Eichelberger, when you did buy such securities, didn't you use a sort of clearinghouse for the transactions? Ah, you owned a company for just that purpose. That's not true. I do have some shares in the security company. What company? Well, ARCO securities, isn't it? Oh, yeah, arco. I'm sure you won't object to this committee's subpoenaing the records of Arco Securities, Mr. Eichelberger. Why? Why should you? Would you, Mr. Eichelberger? No, why should I? I have absolutely nothing to conceal. Splendid. My hands are clean. Thank you, Mr. Eichelberger. That'll be all today. There are, Marco. Where did the money come from, Mr. Eichelberger? Arco. What was the holding company's name? Marco. Why did we leave such a loophole, Harrigan? We had to, for the income tax record. This professor had to come along with a Bee in his bonnet and trip us up with our car. Once these subpoenas of books were finished, it was one thing to do. The building's gotta go. Go? But there are apartments upstairs, People. Yeah, you can wake them up and carry them out, Herrick, and be a hero. You can't do it. You can't believe it, can you? Now that's what makes it so good. A jury wouldn't believe it either, would they, Harry? Would that. Make a friend and you make an ally. There's a spot for you to keep in mind, as many another American has. In 1945, Lyle Hayden was sent to Iran by a privately financed organization to help the farmers with their agricultural problems. At first they were listless and disinterested. But Hayden started a small demonstration farm to show them what could be done. He began to drill for the water he was sure lay beneath the villages. And when he hit it, his second hand pump began pumping 15,000 gallons an hour. Now, the Iranians welcomed his help. With their aid, he purified the water, removed a set of malaria from the irrigation ditches, started a successful chicken breeding program. Then he opened a free school to teach the children reading and writing. And it was so successful that the Iranian Minister of Education asked him to organize his teaching methods in other villages. Hayden offered a teaching job to any young villager who could learn to read and write. A successful one came from his night school classes. As the months and years went by, Hayden continued educational and agricultural programs throughout the country. And today, what prosperity the present farmers of Iran enjoy can be attributed to the tireless work of Lyle Hayden, who combined the best qualities of mixed and businessman to win the thanks of a grateful people. Once again, an unselfish American proves that by helping others, you help your country. The curtain rises on Act 3 of the Turning Point. Starring Fred McMurray as Jerry. Joanne Drew as Amanda. With Whitby O' Connor as John. The blast at Arco security shook half the city. Johnny and I raced down to the scene. There was nothing we could do. And the sounds of the injured and dying were more than anybody could bear. I let a couple of days go by before I dared go up and see Johnny Conroy. He was in the fire room alone, haggard, haunted. Johnny. Anything new, kid? I'll ask you. Anybody come out of that explosion alive? One or two still fighting? I listened to you months ago, Jerry. Yeah, you suggested I wasn't the man for a job. I changed my mind, Johnny. And we both have. You haven't. Then maybe you can tell me how long it's going to take to get the smell of worm flesh out of my memory. Oh, but you can't blame yourself. I was just a kid standing in the sun with a dream on my face. Look at those files. Thousands of pages of testimony. What good are they? The Arco files are the key to this case. They're gone. That's right, Johnny. To make a case against Eichelberger. Now we're taking a major hunk of criminal evidence. Well, by the time that happens, if it ever happens, this committee will be hit for dead. What do you mean, Johnny? I'm quitting. Okay, so we strike off a medal for Neil Eichelberger and all his foul kind. The winner and field champion are the wolves, right? Does that suit you? How many more people do you expect me to kill? I've dug up a story, Johnny. It's a murder story. We play it right and we can panic Eichelberger into making a mistake. What murder? I'm going to have to knock you to your knees again, Johnny. What murder? Your father. What? There wasn't a cheese pickup shooting his way out. It was a planned execution right down the line. Even the double crossing that little Marty LaRue punk they used. They let LaRue shoot your dad and then they shot down LaRue. I know it, Johnny. It figures. My hands were tied though. I. I couldn't hit you again.

[Amanda Waycross]

Why?

[Jerry McKibben]

What would be their motive?

[Amanda Waycross]

Why do you.

[Jerry McKibben]

Matt was working with Eichelberger. He told me himself he was trying to shake loose. They framed him dead. I found him a crooked cop. He died clean, Johnny. He went down shooting. Well, I can't stop you from getting. All you have to do is ask. I can't ask. All I can do is quit. But that means the whole investigation collapse. They're going to point some other dream labs. Do you know? They never will, Johnny. They'll see how much time and money produced absolutely nothing. And they'll drop it cold. You know that a committee will be appointed to investigate the investigation. And they'll return a big report and it'll be trialed and forgotten. And the people wind up right where they were. At the mercy of the hoodlum. Is it so important to you? Yes, it is. You're the boy with a dream on his face now. Well, I don't know. But I know this. Even allowing for the apathy of the people in their occasional indifference, the fact is they all want desperately to believe in a certain majesty of the law. And for people like us, like you and me, the Greatest crime in law is lack of faith in the law. That's when we join hands with the hoodlum.

[Amanda Waycross]

The music pretty good?

[Jerry McKibben]

That's fine.

[Amanda Waycross]

What's the matter?

[Jerry McKibben]

I've been telling Johnny about his dad.

[Amanda Waycross]

Johnny, I'm so sorry.

[Jerry McKibben]

All I can add, Johnny, is if the Neil Eichelbergers can convince us that it's useless to try to beat them, then we might as well hand the whole country over to them and let them run it for us. Finished? Finished. Then I'll say that I don't think I need a speech about honor and integrity from either one of you.

[Amanda Waycross]

Well, may I speak to Johnny now?

[Jerry McKibben]

Sure. I'm sorry, Johnny.

[Amanda Waycross]

I understood what you meant about Gary and me. I'm sorry I couldn't have told you.

[Jerry McKibben]

Unimportant.

[Amanda Waycross]

Now I can't apologize or ask for forgiveness and only ask you to try to understand that we've tried very hard not to have it happen. But, Johnny, don't let this influence your decision. If you walk out now, you'll regret it the rest of your life. Sometimes. Sometimes a few people have to pay a heavy price to help the law.

[Jerry McKibben]

Let Jerry publish the story about Pop.

[Amanda Waycross]

What did you.

[Jerry McKibben]

What about my mother?

[Amanda Waycross]

What about the people who died in the Arco fire? And Jerry has an egg.

[Jerry McKibben]

Oh, Jerry always has.

[Amanda Waycross]

If you can identify your father's nerve as Eiffel Berger, you'll have them, Johnny. You'll pay them back.

[Jerry McKibben]

You tell Jerry.

[Amanda Waycross]

Telling what?

[Jerry McKibben]

To print the. Hello?

[Amanda Waycross]

Mr. McKibben?

[Jerry McKibben]

Yes, who is this?

[Amanda Waycross]

You don't know me, but I read your story about the holdup where that cop in Monte La Rue was killed.

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[Jerry McKibben]

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[Amanda Waycross]

My name's Carmelina.

[Jerry McKibben]

Carmelina who?

[Amanda Waycross]

It doesn't matter. It's about Monty.

[Jerry McKibben]

What about him?

[Amanda Waycross]

Was that honestly the way he was killed?

[Jerry McKibben]

Yes, it was, Carmenita. He was killed by Echo Gorgeous guns. And I can prove it. Where are you, Monty?

[Amanda Waycross]

At a. At a place called Steve's Place. It's down.

[Jerry McKibben]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I know where it is. You wait there for me. Order yourself something and don't go away, huh? Okay, okay. We can talk at this table. Carmena.

[Amanda Waycross]

I want to know. Was that how Monty was killed?

[Jerry McKibben]

They hired Monty to kill that policeman, and then they killed Monty. Were you his wife?

[Amanda Waycross]

Yeah, but I didn't want him to get into it. I couldn't stop him. He was crazy to be a big guy. They told him they were going to make him a big guy.

[Jerry McKibben]

Who told him?

[Amanda Waycross]

The next room. I heard them every word. A big guy.

[Jerry McKibben]

Who was in the room, Tommy? Carmelina. Did you see Monty's body?

[Amanda Waycross]

Yeah, I saw it.

[Jerry McKibben]

You'd like to have them pay for that, wouldn't you?

[Amanda Waycross]

Yeah.

[Jerry McKibben]

Who was in the room, Carmelita?

[Amanda Waycross]

A guy named Ackerman.

[Jerry McKibben]

Lori Ackerman.

[Amanda Waycross]

And somebody called Herm.

[Jerry McKibben]

Herm.

[Amanda Waycross]

Herm what.

[Jerry McKibben]

What was his last name?

[Amanda Waycross]

Carmen.

[Jerry McKibben]

And what was Herm's like? What are you staring at?

[Amanda Waycross]

Behind you in a doorway. It's them.

[Jerry McKibben]

How did they know you were here?

[Amanda Waycross]

I don't know. I live in the next block.

[Jerry McKibben]

Have they seen you?

[Amanda Waycross]

Yes.

[Jerry McKibben]

Are they coming?

[Amanda Waycross]

Yes.

[Jerry McKibben]

A little fast. There's a kitchen door behind him. When I say now, run for it. I'll be right behind you. Don't get lost, and don't let them get you. Yeah, all right. Now

[Amanda Waycross]

I know.

[Jerry McKibben]

Only she hadn't slipped away from you, Jerry. Yeah, but she did slip away. The girl was crazy with fear. You got that piped up yet, Amanda?

[Amanda Waycross]

Five seconds.

[Jerry McKibben]

They'll kill her. If they get her, they'll kill her. Diner, and this one will be on me. I know I know.

[Amanda Waycross]

Here we are. Carmelina, give yourself up to the police. As long as you are at large, you are in danger of your life. The police are your only protection. Carmelina LaRue, 27 years, 5 foot 6 inches, 115 pounds. Large, dark eyes, black hair, olive complex.

[Jerry McKibben]

Phone that into the police. We've got to get to her before Eichelberger gets her. Matter with you, Ackerman? You nervous? I'll tell you what's the matter, Eichelberger. That dame is loose and she can talk. He talks to McKibben. He doesn't stand up in court. We'll be sitting in court waiting to see if it'll stand up or not. I'll tell you who. Me. And I'll tell you something else. This guy McKibben is the only guy who can identify the LaRue name. Anybody else they drag in is just a scared dame. But McKibben knows Laru. You worry about the court cycle, Burger. I'm going to change our life. Oh, you want Ackerman. One big mistake and knocking off Matt's. Conroy yourself, Michael. You heard what I said. Lay off, Mc. There was a girl somewhere hiding out in the jungle of the city. Scared to death and with every trigger man in town looking for her. Warning. Something to get me off the front page and into the obituary column. I put a shifty little informer named Pinky Smock on Ackerman trail just by way of staying alive myself. You're my parents. Well, you're my pal, Jerry.

[Amanda Waycross]

But I hear nothing.

[Jerry McKibben]

Well, keep working, thinking. Find Ackerman and don't let him out of your sight. Let me know even if he coughs.

[Amanda Waycross]

Okay? Okay, Okay.

[Jerry McKibben]

I looked at police lineups trying to find Tomalina. Nothing. Radio and TV spot announcement, nothing. And then the break. Yeah? Jerry McKib in the Chronicle. Yep. I Do you? You don't know me, but my name is Sammy Lester.

[Amanda Waycross]

I'm a fight man.

[Jerry McKibben]

I takes to manage my LaRue. I think I can tell you where Carmelina is. Where are you now? I'm at the fights. Now, listen. I'll leave a ticket at the box office for you. You come along. I'll take the seat next to you as soon as I can get away. I got a point about here. How do I know this is on the square? You're not Worried, are you? McKibben ain't got nothing to worry about. I know what you mean. How safe can you be? All right, Sammy. I'll be there. So long. McKibben. What do you say, Sammy? What do you say? Okay is what he said, Mr. Ackerman. Okay. Okay.

[Amanda Waycross]

Ms. Ackerman.

[Jerry McKibben]

Help me.

[Amanda Waycross]

Oh, what a. Who are you? I'm Carmelina. Johnny. It's Carmelina, Johnny. She's here. Carmelina's here. Oh, girl.

[Jerry McKibben]

Good Girlina. You sure?

[Amanda Waycross]

Now give me a hand.

[Jerry McKibben]

How do we know this is Carmelina?

[Amanda Waycross]

Look at her. She's a girl. And she admits it. Aren't she, Carmelina?

[Jerry McKibben]

Yes, but I. I just spoke to Jerry's office. They said he was running down a lead on Camelina.

[Amanda Waycross]

Oh, no. Did they say where he'd gone? The fight.

[Jerry McKibben]

Hey, pal, I've been looking high and low for you. Who told you I was here in your office? I told him was important. And, pal, it's important. You found Ackerman. I found him right here. And I saw him point you out for one of his out of town. There's a gun on you, pal, so watch out.

[Amanda Waycross]

I got to go.

[Jerry McKibben]

Thanks.

[Amanda Waycross]

Be seen in this house.

[Jerry McKibben]

When, when, when Maybe when the crowd roars though they won't hear the socks. Now he's waiting for a clear shot. I can't believe if I stand up there'll be a shot from someplace and I'll go down to Spain. Got to wait, wait and go out with the crowd. Into the tunnel will go to the street. Guy with a gun. Where is he? Where is he? Where is he? Where is he?

[Amanda Waycross]

Gary McKinnon.

[Jerry McKibben]

Come in, Gary. The children. Hold up your hand. Johnny.

[Amanda Waycross]

Jerry, where are you?

[Jerry McKibben]

No, don't. Keep away from me. Jerry.

[Amanda Waycross]

Jerry.

[Sponsor Voice]

Keep away.

[Jerry McKibben]

Amanda.

[Amanda Waycross]

There's a gun on me. Johnny. I see him over here. No. No. Jerry. We've got. Call the leader.

[Jerry McKibben]

Get away from me.

[Amanda Waycross]

There's a gun on me.

[Jerry McKibben]

This is another trap. Get away.

[Amanda Waycross]

Hi, Jerry.

[Jerry McKibben]

No.

[Amanda Waycross]

No.

[Jerry McKibben]

There's a gun on me, I tell you. Get away.

[Amanda Waycross]

Keep away. That's all you can say? Got to stay in bed and be quiet. Bed?

[Jerry McKibben]

There's no place for a working newspaper man. It seems to me there was an awful lot of shooting for one wounded reporter.

[Amanda Waycross]

But Carmelina. Cass, we've got Eisenberg and Harrigan and Austin and the whole mo.

[Jerry McKibben]

The gunman?

[Amanda Waycross]

Yes.

[Jerry McKibben]

Wait a minute.

[Amanda Waycross]

Don't talk.

[Jerry McKibben]

But Carmelina talked to him. He said that? As if we at least got some value for the price. What price? Not just me, Amanda. Where's Johnny?

[Amanda Waycross]

Sometimes someone has to pay a great price to uphold the majesty of the law. Johnny, he tried to protect you and me from his side. Yeah,

[Jerry McKibben]

he stood in the schoolyard with his books under his arms and a dream on his face. And the flag pole fell on him.

[Amanda Waycross]

The least we can do is set the flag pole up again for him. Isn't it, G? Yeah.

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