Juvenile Jury 1947.10.26 Juvenile Jury

Summary

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Podcast Summary: Harold's Old Time Radio

Episode: Juvenile Jury 1947.10.26
Host: Jack Barry (with announcer John Scott)
Date Aired: February 13, 2026

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Episode Overview

This episode of "Harold's Old Time Radio" features a classic installment of Juvenile Jury, originally broadcast in 1947. The premise centers on a panel of children aged 5 to 10 offering their candid, humorous, and surprisingly insightful advice to real-life problems sent in by listeners. Hosted by Jack Barry, the show engages this youthful "jury" to weigh in on an assortment of family dilemmas—covering everything from sibling rivalry and household troubles to the classic morning struggle over breakfast.

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Key Discussion Points and Insights

1. Introduction & Format (00:32–01:26)

• John Scott introduces the show and hands off to moderator Jack Barry.
• Jack Barry introduces the young panelists: Dickie Orland (7), Robin Morgan (5), Kong Liu (9), Peggy Bruder (10), and Charlie Hankinson (6).

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2. The Twin Trouble With Shaving Cream (01:47–05:41)

Listener Letter:
A mother in Chicago writes about her four-year-old twins who love imitating their father by using shaving cream and lotion.

Juvenile Jury Reactions:

• Charlie Hankinson is initially confused, quipping,
  • "He must look awful silly with all the things on him." (02:37)
• Peggy Bruder amusingly misinterprets, linking the twins' behavior to dishwashing:
  • "Don't the husbands usually wash the dishes?" (03:04)
• Kong Liu wonders if discipline is imitated too:
  • "If the father spanks Richard, does Charlie spank Richard too?" (03:21)
• The kids offer a whirlwind of comical solutions:
  • Make the twins wear diapers "so they won’t like it" (03:59–04:13, Charlie).
  • Suggest the father wear "dentons" (pajamas) like the boys.
  • "They ought to be housebroken," quips Dickie Orland (03:44).
• Imitation discussion:
  • Kong Liu does his "Charlie McCarthy" ventriloquist act—to everyone’s delight.

Memorable Quote:
"Let them enjoy their youngness while they’re young" — Robin Morgan (04:46)

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3. My Sister Won’t Stop Rearranging Furniture (06:01–10:25)

Listener Letter:
A boy complains his sister moves his bedroom furniture so often he trips trying to find the bed.

Jury’s Advice:

• Suggestions range from practical to silly:
  • Tie the furniture down with ropes (Charlie Hankinson, 06:48).
  • Enter the room wearing a barrel to cushion falls (Peggy Bruder, 07:06).
  • Use "radar" (Kang Lu, 07:14).
  • Wear "mobile bumpers" for safety (Dickie Orland, 09:21).
  • Turn the tables and rearrange his sister’s furniture in retaliation.
• Robin Morgan muses:
  • "If they moved all the chairs in this theater, they could make it look as big as Madison Square Garden and have the circus here." (07:46)
• Jack Barry wraps up: Parents should agree on one arrangement.

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4. Dog Guest of the Week: Irish Setters (11:19–14:39)

• Two real Irish Setter dogs, Domino and Paddy, are introduced.
• Kids identify the breed quickly. Tries at describing what Irish Setters do:
  • Peggy Bruder: "They’re sporting dogs. So I suppose they hunt game and retrieve them." (13:22)
  • Robin Morgan (humorous): "Good for hunting lions and tigers and very, very ferocious animals." (12:45)
• Host points out for a time, the breed’s beauty was prioritized over hunting ability.

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5. Sibling Interference With Music Practice (15:45–20:52)

In-Person Guest:
6-year-old Kathy Chapman says her sister won’t let her enjoy music (esp. Betty Hutton records).

Panel’s Questions & Advice:

• Details are probed ("What kind of music?"), followed by:
  • Suggesting she play elsewhere—"maybe in a candy store" (Kang Lu, 20:00).
  • Proposing a noiseless piano (Dickie Orland, 19:20).
  • Setting a schedule so one child can practice undisturbed; Jack Barry’s wrap-up:
    • "A schedule ought to be arranged... your music is certainly very important." (20:52)

Funny Side Story:
Discussion veers into tooth loss, with Kathy detailing putting her tooth under her pillow ($1 reward).

• "I wish we were sponsored by a toothpaste." — Jack Barry (18:14)

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6. Kids and Water Pistols Indoors (22:23–23:36)

Listener Letter:
A mother’s 5-year-old shoots water pistols (filled from pots of soup!) at the curtains on rainy days.

Jury’s Comedic Solutions:

• Remove the curtains on rainy days (Charlie Hankinson, 22:23).
• Make curtains out of sponges (Dickie Orland, 23:25).
• Waterproof the whole house (Dickie Orland, 23:00).
• Kong Liu: "Maybe he shoots his water pistol because he gets a bang out of it." (23:12)

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7. The Morning Battle: Eat or Play First? (25:01–29:05)

In-Person Guest:
4½-year-old Eugene Snyder says his mother wants him to eat breakfast, but he wants to play.

Jury's Questions:

• Delving into his age, sleep times, and school schedule—profound confusion about time.
• Dickie Orland jokes:
  • "Why don’t you tell your mother that your stomach can’t tell time either and you don’t want to know nothing." (27:03)
• Robin suggests vitamin pills; Kong Lu and others agree that food comes first.
• Consensus: Eat before play; breakfast provides needed strength.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Exchanges

• "Let them enjoy their youngness while they're young." — Robin Morgan (04:46)
• "Well, I think that these boys...they ought to be housebroken." — Dickie Orland (03:44)
• "If the father spanks Richard, does Charlie spank Richard too?" — Kong Liu (03:21)
• "My mother once told me that music is the language of the soul." — Robin Morgan (19:40)
• "Make the curtains out of sponge ... ring out the curtains." — Dickie Orland (23:25)
• "Why don’t you tell your mother that your stomach can’t tell time either and you don’t want to know nothing." — Dickie Orland (27:03)
• "Why don't you go to somewhere that you play records? ... Maybe in a candy store." — Kong Lu (20:00)

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Timestamps for Key Segments

| Segment | Timestamp | |----------------------------------------|--------------------| | Introduction to Format | 00:32–01:26 | | Shaving Cream Twins (Letter 1) | 01:47–05:41 | | Rearranged Bedroom Furniture (Letter 2)| 06:01–10:25 | | Dog Guest of the Week: Irish Setters | 11:19–14:39 | | Sister Interferes with Music | 15:45–20:52 | | Water Pistols in the House | 22:23–23:36 | | Eat vs Play in the Morning | 25:01–29:05 |

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Episode Tone and Highlights

• The interplay between Jack Barry and the children is warm, witty, and often gently teasing. The child panelists respond with a mixture of innocence, logic, and unexpected sass, rarely lacking in creativity.
• The show's charm lies in the unpredictability and imagination of its young "jurors." Questions veer into offbeat territory (barrels as safety equipment, sponge curtains, noiseless pianos), and Barry is quick to underscore the children's personalities.

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Final Thoughts

This Juvenile Jury episode exemplifies the lighthearted, improvisational fun of mid-20th-century radio, giving children a rare public platform for their voices—by turns hilarious and near-sage. It’s nostalgia wrapped in earnest advice, with a side of period cultural references and dog trivia, making it a delightful slice of Americana.

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Transcript

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[John Scott]

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[Jack Barry]

Thank you John Scott and hello again everyone. Waiting to prove that children should be heard as well as seen are five average alert youngsters, their ages ranging from 5 to 10. Reading from left to right, meet Dickie.

[Juvenile Jury Kids (Dickie Orland, Robin Morgan, Kong Liu, Peggy Bruder, Charlie Hankinson)]

All in age 7 Robin Morgan, age 5 Kong Liu, age 9 Peggy Booter, age 10 Charlie Hankinson, age 6.

[Jack Barry]

Thanks children. Now let's step into the mailbag for our very first question. As you know, for every question put before the jury, the Sender receives a $100 monitor combination radio phonograph with an automatic record changer that plays both 10 and 12 inch records, plus a complete album of four brand new comedy records by George Burns and Gracie Allen, one of the top 10 albums. We open with a letter from a mother in Chicago and incidentally, we'll have an important announcement for folks in and around Chicago later on in the program. She wants your advice on a problem which she sent to us and of course we're sending her a radio phonograph and a top ten album. Mrs. Th writes us that I have four year old twins, Charlie and Richard who are always trying to imitate their daddy. They insist on wearing two piece pajamas instead of dentons. They keep plastering their faces with their daddy's shaving cream. When he's away, they pour his shaving lotion on their heads and rub it in what can we do? Charlie Hankinson's first.

[Juvenile Jury Kids (Dickie Orland, Robin Morgan, Kong Liu, Peggy Bruder, Charlie Hankinson)]

Well, what is it? What do you mean? He purrs that on? He must look awful silly with all the things on him.

[Jack Barry]

Who must look awful silly? Charlie.

[Juvenile Jury Kids (Dickie Orland, Robin Morgan, Kong Liu, Peggy Bruder, Charlie Hankinson)]

Richard and Charlie.

[Jack Barry]

Oh, I see. They do look silly.

[Juvenile Jury Kids (Dickie Orland, Robin Morgan, Kong Liu, Peggy Bruder, Charlie Hankinson)]

That's what I thought.

[Jack Barry]

Yeah. Thank you, Bruder.

[Juvenile Jury Kids (Dickie Orland, Robin Morgan, Kong Liu, Peggy Bruder, Charlie Hankinson)]

You mean to say that they've washed the dishes also?

[Jack Barry]

Who said anything about washing dishes?

[Juvenile Jury Kids (Dickie Orland, Robin Morgan, Kong Liu, Peggy Bruder, Charlie Hankinson)]

Well, don't the husbands usually wash the dishes?

[Jack Barry]

I don't know. Not being a husband, I don't feel qualified to answer that at Kanglu.

[Juvenile Jury Kids (Dickie Orland, Robin Morgan, Kong Liu, Peggy Bruder, Charlie Hankinson)]

What are their names?

[Jack Barry]

Charlie and Richard.

[Juvenile Jury Kids (Dickie Orland, Robin Morgan, Kong Liu, Peggy Bruder, Charlie Hankinson)]

Well, if the father spanks Richard, does Charlie spank Richard too?

[Jack Barry]

I hope not. Let's have a little pity on poor Richard. Robin Morgan.

[Juvenile Jury Kids (Dickie Orland, Robin Morgan, Kong Liu, Peggy Bruder, Charlie Hankinson)]

Instead of wearing two piece pajamas, why doesn't the mother also buy dentists for the father?

[Jack Barry]

I'm not sure that he liked that.

[Juvenile Jury Kids (Dickie Orland, Robin Morgan, Kong Liu, Peggy Bruder, Charlie Hankinson)]

Sweet.

[Jack Barry]

That's Robin. Vicky Orland.

[Juvenile Jury Kids (Dickie Orland, Robin Morgan, Kong Liu, Peggy Bruder, Charlie Hankinson)]

Well, I think that these boys don't know how to act in the house. And they ought to be housebroken.

[Jack Barry]

Well, that's a good suggestion on a game's dog food program anyway. Dickie. Charlie Hankinson.

[Juvenile Jury Kids (Dickie Orland, Robin Morgan, Kong Liu, Peggy Bruder, Charlie Hankinson)]

Well, if they do that all the time, why don't they make them wear diapers? And then they won't like that so much. And then they won't do it and they won't do it anymore.

[Jack Barry]

Make Charlie and Richard wear diapers?

[Juvenile Jury Kids (Dickie Orland, Robin Morgan, Kong Liu, Peggy Bruder, Charlie Hankinson)]

Yes.

[Jack Barry]

Instead of pajamas?

[Juvenile Jury Kids (Dickie Orland, Robin Morgan, Kong Liu, Peggy Bruder, Charlie Hankinson)]

Yes.

[Jack Barry]

How long since you've worn diapers, Charlie?

[Juvenile Jury Kids (Dickie Orland, Robin Morgan, Kong Liu, Peggy Bruder, Charlie Hankinson)]

About, let's say, five years.

[Jack Barry]

Pretty rough guess. Uh huh. Thank you, Bruno.

[Juvenile Jury Kids (Dickie Orland, Robin Morgan, Kong Liu, Peggy Bruder, Charlie Hankinson)]

Well, it's lucky that they don't have quintuplets.

[Jack Barry]

I should say. Come loose.

[Juvenile Jury Kids (Dickie Orland, Robin Morgan, Kong Liu, Peggy Bruder, Charlie Hankinson)]

Do the neighbors boys shave?

[Jack Barry]

Neighbors boys shave? It doesn't say. Why do you say that, Ashley?

[Juvenile Jury Kids (Dickie Orland, Robin Morgan, Kong Liu, Peggy Bruder, Charlie Hankinson)]

Well, maybe they want to join in the fun.

[Jack Barry]

Oh, I see. They're imitating the neighbor's boys. That may be Robin Morgan.

[Juvenile Jury Kids (Dickie Orland, Robin Morgan, Kong Liu, Peggy Bruder, Charlie Hankinson)]

Well, why doesn't the mother tell the two twins that? Let them enjoy their youngness while they're young.

[Jack Barry]

I see. That's good, Robin. And conversely, lets the parents enjoy their oldness while they're old, I suppose. Do any of you kids on the juvenile jury imitate anyone? Anybody? Any of you have any talent for imitating people? Khan, who do you imitate?

[Juvenile Jury Kids (Dickie Orland, Robin Morgan, Kong Liu, Peggy Bruder, Charlie Hankinson)]

I imitate Charlie McCarthy.

[Jack Barry]

You do? Would you like to imitate him for us?

[Juvenile Jury Kids (Dickie Orland, Robin Morgan, Kong Liu, Peggy Bruder, Charlie Hankinson)]

Yeah. Hiya. Bergen.

[Jack Barry]

I don't mean to be rude, but is that the entire imitation?

[Juvenile Jury Kids (Dickie Orland, Robin Morgan, Kong Liu, Peggy Bruder, Charlie Hankinson)]

No.

[Jack Barry]

Oh, there's more?

[Juvenile Jury Kids (Dickie Orland, Robin Morgan, Kong Liu, Peggy Bruder, Charlie Hankinson)]

Just a part of it, but I don't remember the rest of it.

[John Scott]

Well, it was very good yes, indeed.

[Jack Barry]

It was very, very good as far as you went. I'm sure that no one would have difficulty recognizing that imitation. Well, Charlie Hankerson, let's get back to you a moment. I want to compliment you on a wonderful job you did of editing the Young America section of the November issue of Magazine Digest. You certainly showed a lot of ability as a journalist. And perhaps that'll influence what you want to be in later life. What? What do you want to be when you get older, Charlie?

[Juvenile Jury Kids (Dickie Orland, Robin Morgan, Kong Liu, Peggy Bruder, Charlie Hankinson)]

A baseball player?

[Jack Barry]

You may change your mind if you see what a swell job you've done. The November issue of Magazine Digest, which is on sale at all newsstand. And talking of writers, Peggy Gilly. Peggy. Peggy Bruder. You showed that you certainly can get words together, too. In that story that you wrote. And I Am a Juvenile Jury, which is appearing in the November issue of Radio Mirror. And that, too, is on sale on newsstands. Looks like the juvenile jury turning to a bunch of literary geniuses. Now, let's go back to our problems. Here from Manhattan, a letter from Master JK to whom we're sending a Monitor Radio phonograph of a top 10 record album. Master K writes as follows. He says, my sister always moves the furniture around in my room. She wants to make it look larger. When I go into my room, I trip and fall before I can put on the light. I also can't sleep well because I'm used to having the bed in one place. And when she changes it, I just can't sleep. What can I do?

[Juvenile Jury Kids (Dickie Orland, Robin Morgan, Kong Liu, Peggy Bruder, Charlie Hankinson)]

Charlie Henderson, if you want that so bad while you go tight ropes. And, Joshua, your sister can untie where you like it. And then she won't be able to do anything. So you want on your own trip and grow any place.

[John Scott]

All right, darling.

[Jack Barry]

Thank you, Peggy Bruder.

[Juvenile Jury Kids (Dickie Orland, Robin Morgan, Kong Liu, Peggy Bruder, Charlie Hankinson)]

Well, as long as you trip and fall when you come into the room. Why don't you come in wearing a barrel?

[Jack Barry]

That would ward off everything. All right. Thank you.

[Juvenile Jury Kids (Dickie Orland, Robin Morgan, Kong Liu, Peggy Bruder, Charlie Hankinson)]

Kang Lu, you know what radar is?

[Jack Barry]

Radar? I have the general idea, yes.

[Juvenile Jury Kids (Dickie Orland, Robin Morgan, Kong Liu, Peggy Bruder, Charlie Hankinson)]

Well, why doesn't he use it when he goes into the room?

[Jack Barry]

Oh, I see.

[John Scott]

Very good.

[Jack Barry]

And, Con, let us never forget that Radar spelled backward is radar.

[Juvenile Jury Kids (Dickie Orland, Robin Morgan, Kong Liu, Peggy Bruder, Charlie Hankinson)]

Robin Morgan, do you mean, Mr. Barry, that by moving furniture you can make rooms look bigger?

[Jack Barry]

Well, I think that most interior decorators are. You can make rooms look bigger? Yes.

[Juvenile Jury Kids (Dickie Orland, Robin Morgan, Kong Liu, Peggy Bruder, Charlie Hankinson)]

Then if they moved all the chairs around in this theater. They could make it look as big as Madison Square Garden and have the circus here.

[Jack Barry]

Robin, I have news for you. We have a circus Here every Sunday afternoon.

[Juvenile Jury Kids (Dickie Orland, Robin Morgan, Kong Liu, Peggy Bruder, Charlie Hankinson)]

Well, he should tell her that she's wasting her life for nothing because she could be making money working for a furniture mover.

[Jack Barry]

Incidentally, Vicki Orland, old boy, this just occurred to me that this little stunt these kids pull, it sounds to me like something you and Junior on the Red Skelton would do when you get together. Doesn't that sound like a logical stunt for you kids to do?

[Juvenile Jury Kids (Dickie Orland, Robin Morgan, Kong Liu, Peggy Bruder, Charlie Hankinson)]

Yeah, but I. I would. I wouldn't move the furniture. I made Junior do that.

[Jack Barry]

Well, I think that he'd probably do it, especially if it were not Nancy Freeman. Now let's get back to Peggy Bruder.

[Juvenile Jury Kids (Dickie Orland, Robin Morgan, Kong Liu, Peggy Bruder, Charlie Hankinson)]

Well, why don't you use one of those for the Brian beds?

[Jack Barry]

Use what?

[Juvenile Jury Kids (Dickie Orland, Robin Morgan, Kong Liu, Peggy Bruder, Charlie Hankinson)]

We know those o' Brien beds.

[Jack Barry]

O' Brien beds? What are o' Brien beds?

[Juvenile Jury Kids (Dickie Orland, Robin Morgan, Kong Liu, Peggy Bruder, Charlie Hankinson)]

You know, the beds that filled up.

[Jack Barry]

In the wall Murphy beds. I had a bunch. That's what you were driving at, Charlie Hankinson.

[Juvenile Jury Kids (Dickie Orland, Robin Morgan, Kong Liu, Peggy Bruder, Charlie Hankinson)]

Well, I think that you could change your sister's furniture around and then you could get even with a Medici bulb like that so she would quit it.

[Jack Barry]

Thank you, Dickie Orland.

[Juvenile Jury Kids (Dickie Orland, Robin Morgan, Kong Liu, Peggy Bruder, Charlie Hankinson)]

Well, if you don't want to bump into anything, when he goes into his room, he should buy a little mobile bumpers and he should wear one in front of him and one behind.

[Jack Barry]

One behind? Yeah.

[Juvenile Jury Kids (Dickie Orland, Robin Morgan, Kong Liu, Peggy Bruder, Charlie Hankinson)]

Why don't you put a white sheet near the door?

[Jack Barry]

I bet you parking Khan, why don't.

[Juvenile Jury Kids (Dickie Orland, Robin Morgan, Kong Liu, Peggy Bruder, Charlie Hankinson)]

You put a white sheet near the door?

[Jack Barry]

All right. Thank you, Charlie.

[Juvenile Jury Kids (Dickie Orland, Robin Morgan, Kong Liu, Peggy Bruder, Charlie Hankinson)]

Well, I think that you should do this. Well, besides changing your furniture around, maybe put some of your furniture in there. Then you show up a little bit, but then she won't know what's in the room. And then she'll be walking in and she'll say, this doesn't belong to me and you just keep it in there. And then she wouldn't know what to do, so she would have to change it all over again herself so then you could get in with her.

[Jack Barry]

Well, Charlie, I think that they better explain to the sister you can't sleep when the bed's moved about. And asked to decide once and for all how she'd like that furniture place. And I think that would solve the problem.

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[Jack Barry]

Now here's our very popular feature, game's dog guest of the week. Each week we bring a real dog on stage to see if the juvenile jury can identify it. And here it comes now.

[John Scott]

This is John Scott speaking off stage where the jurors can't hear me. Today we have two dog guests and they're Irish setters.

[Jack Barry]

Now back to Jack Barry. Well kids, if you think you're seeing doubles, you are. For today we have two dog guests and they look almost identical. A handsome brace they are too, with pure bright reddish brown coats, long silky ears and moderately long tapering tails that are well feathered. They stand about 27 inches at the shoulder, weigh about 70 pounds and give the impression of being a mixture of beauty and strength. Now who knows what kind of dogs these are? Any of you want to take a guess? Dickie Orland, An Irish setter. Uh huh. What do you think, Peggy?

[Juvenile Jury Kids (Dickie Orland, Robin Morgan, Kong Liu, Peggy Bruder, Charlie Hankinson)]

An Irish setter.

[Jack Barry]

Charlie.

[Juvenile Jury Kids (Dickie Orland, Robin Morgan, Kong Liu, Peggy Bruder, Charlie Hankinson)]

Irish sett.

[Jack Barry]

Charlie, let's get it straight for the records. What kind of a dog is it?

[Juvenile Jury Kids (Dickie Orland, Robin Morgan, Kong Liu, Peggy Bruder, Charlie Hankinson)]

Irish setter.

[Jack Barry]

I see. Ton Lou.

[Juvenile Jury Kids (Dickie Orland, Robin Morgan, Kong Liu, Peggy Bruder, Charlie Hankinson)]

Irish setter.

[Jack Barry]

Robin.

[Juvenile Jury Kids (Dickie Orland, Robin Morgan, Kong Liu, Peggy Bruder, Charlie Hankinson)]

Irish setter.

[Jack Barry]

Boy, there's no doubt about it. Games dog guests of the week are Irish setters. Their father and daughter and their names are Domino and Paddy. As you'd expect, these dogs originally come from Ireland, but being typically Irishmen with fun loving dispositions, they're favorites everywhere. They probably sleep in o' brien beds. Peggy, suppose you tell us what kind of work Irish setters do. Robin.

[Juvenile Jury Kids (Dickie Orland, Robin Morgan, Kong Liu, Peggy Bruder, Charlie Hankinson)]

Well, I think they're good for hunting lions and tigers and very, very ferocious animals.

[Jack Barry]

Robin. The Irish are known to be good fighters, but that's carrying it a little too far. Han Lu.

[Juvenile Jury Kids (Dickie Orland, Robin Morgan, Kong Liu, Peggy Bruder, Charlie Hankinson)]

I think they're used for hunting doves.

[Jack Barry]

Uh huh. What do you think, Charlie?

[Juvenile Jury Kids (Dickie Orland, Robin Morgan, Kong Liu, Peggy Bruder, Charlie Hankinson)]

I think they're used for hunting wild animals.

[Jack Barry]

And what about you, Dickie Orland?

[Juvenile Jury Kids (Dickie Orland, Robin Morgan, Kong Liu, Peggy Bruder, Charlie Hankinson)]

Well, I think that they're a mascot for the navy.

[Jack Barry]

No, I think that's wrong. I think they have a billy goat, a mascot for the navy. And the navy's not very happy today about that defeat they got in Pennsylvania yesterday. Peggy Bruder.

[Juvenile Jury Kids (Dickie Orland, Robin Morgan, Kong Liu, Peggy Bruder, Charlie Hankinson)]

Well they're sporting dogs. So I suppose they hunt game and retrieve them.

[Jack Barry]

Well, that's right. Irish setters are sporting dogs. Gun dogs, to be exact. They're excellent gundogs too. In fact, the Irish Center Club of a America reports that when they first came to America and were used on kinds of birds which were new to them, they made out exceptionally well. They do well at dog shows too, thanks to their great beauty. But now, here's an interesting fact, kids. You know, for a time their great beauty hindered them somewhat rather than help them. Can anyone explain why their beauty didn't help them at first for a long time? That's a pretty difficult question. Yes, Peggy.

[Juvenile Jury Kids (Dickie Orland, Robin Morgan, Kong Liu, Peggy Bruder, Charlie Hankinson)]

Well, maybe when they were hunting the game or wherever they were hunting, maybe the. The birds or whoever they were hunting got frightened of their color or they didn't know what it was.

[Jack Barry]

No, that's not quite right, Robin.

[Juvenile Jury Kids (Dickie Orland, Robin Morgan, Kong Liu, Peggy Bruder, Charlie Hankinson)]

Well, perhaps that was many years ago and they weren't known very well at that time. And so the people not knowing them, they didn't think that they were beautiful.

[Jack Barry]

Oh, then the birds got to know them. They had a talking acquaintance and they settled things out. Well, no, that's not right. You see, Irish setters are such beautiful dogs that a few years ago, many of them were bred for looks alone rather than for their sporting ability. Now, however, it's the other way around. They're bred more for their natural hunting ability. It's paid off too. For Irish setters are not only winning field trials, they're winning dog shows too.

[John Scott]

Yes, and that calls for being in good condition, Jack.

[Jack Barry]

Right, Scotty.

[John Scott]

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[Jack Barry]

Thanks, Scotty. And thanks to our game dog guest of the week, Take a bow, Domino and Patty. Now, as a regular feature of juvenile jury, we invite our younger listeners to present their problems here in person. This week we have with us 6 year old Kathy Chapman, who lives in New York. Kathy, will you step up to the microphone and tell your problem to the jury? All right, Kathy, what is your. What is your problem?

[Juvenile Jury Kids (Dickie Orland, Robin Morgan, Kong Liu, Peggy Bruder, Charlie Hankinson)]

My sister doesn't let me enjoy music. What shall I do?

[Jack Barry]

Okay, now accept some questions.

[Juvenile Jury Kids (Dickie Orland, Robin Morgan, Kong Liu, Peggy Bruder, Charlie Hankinson)]

Charlie, what kind of music? Just them little baby pieces that I play. And she plays nursery rhymes on the records. Yes, Charlie, what kind of nursery rhymes?

[Jack Barry]

Persistent little fellow, isn't he?

[Juvenile Jury Kids (Dickie Orland, Robin Morgan, Kong Liu, Peggy Bruder, Charlie Hankinson)]

Well, just. Just like old King Cole. And that's.

[Jack Barry]

Oh, yes, that's how he recorded by the King Cole Trio too. Peggy Bruder.

[Juvenile Jury Kids (Dickie Orland, Robin Morgan, Kong Liu, Peggy Bruder, Charlie Hankinson)]

Well, how does she. How does she annoy you? Well, she doesn't let me practice. Her. Well, when I want to play the records, like the Betty Hutton records, she doesn't let me play them. Oh, you like Betty Hutton? Yep. Is she your favorite star? Well, yes, yes. Nikki Orland, did you say that you like Betty Hutton? Yes.

[Jack Barry]

Yes, that's what she said, Vicki.

[Juvenile Jury Kids (Dickie Orland, Robin Morgan, Kong Liu, Peggy Bruder, Charlie Hankinson)]

Why, you mean the lady that screams? Well, she doesn't exactly scream.

[Jack Barry]

No, she's a mighty fine actress too, Dickie.

[Juvenile Jury Kids (Dickie Orland, Robin Morgan, Kong Liu, Peggy Bruder, Charlie Hankinson)]

Well, maybe you should keep it up and maybe you'll go to Hollywood and get a scream test, too.

[Jack Barry]

Those scream tests are pretty hard to get.

[Juvenile Jury Kids (Dickie Orland, Robin Morgan, Kong Liu, Peggy Bruder, Charlie Hankinson)]

Uh, Robin Morgan, have you got a few teeth out?

[Jack Barry]

A rather personal question, don't you think?

[Juvenile Jury Kids (Dickie Orland, Robin Morgan, Kong Liu, Peggy Bruder, Charlie Hankinson)]

Well, did they hurt when they came out? No, I have a few teeth out and they didn't hurt when mine came out.

[Jack Barry]

Why don't your two kids go outside.

[John Scott]

And talk to them?

[Juvenile Jury Kids (Dickie Orland, Robin Morgan, Kong Liu, Peggy Bruder, Charlie Hankinson)]

How were you when you lost your teeth? Well, nothing. They just bled a little bit. What did you say? The ones down here? The ones down here did, but that one, that one up there, did you put them under your pillow? Yes. How much did you get for the one on top? I got a dollar for the one. And you know, I wish we were.

[Jack Barry]

Sponsored by a toothpaste. Let's get back to the problem, Marvin. Okay.

[Juvenile Jury Kids (Dickie Orland, Robin Morgan, Kong Liu, Peggy Bruder, Charlie Hankinson)]

What kind of music do you listen to? You do listen to? Well, what kind of music do you. Well, the Betty Hutton records.

[Jack Barry]

Yes, I haven't listened to them. I wonder if, buddy, Betty Hutton lost any teeth lately?

[Juvenile Jury Kids (Dickie Orland, Robin Morgan, Kong Liu, Peggy Bruder, Charlie Hankinson)]

Do you play the music? How do you listen to it? Do you play it? Or do you listen to it by records? Or do you listen to it over the radio? I listen to it by record.

[Jack Barry]

Yeah, the Congo.

[Juvenile Jury Kids (Dickie Orland, Robin Morgan, Kong Liu, Peggy Bruder, Charlie Hankinson)]

How old is your sister?

[Jack Barry]

How old is your sister? How old's your sister Kathy?

[Juvenile Jury Kids (Dickie Orland, Robin Morgan, Kong Liu, Peggy Bruder, Charlie Hankinson)]

Two and a half. Yes, Vicki, do you play any instrument? No, just the piano.

[Jack Barry]

Well, that explains everything. All right, kids, let's take a run down here and I'll see what we can do about her sister who doesn't let her practice what she wants, doesn't let her enjoy her music. Nikki, what do you think she should do?

[Juvenile Jury Kids (Dickie Orland, Robin Morgan, Kong Liu, Peggy Bruder, Charlie Hankinson)]

Well, want to ask one question? When you play the piano, does your sister annoy you then? Yes. Well, you know, they're noiseless typewriters. And your sister wouldn't even know that you were playing if you had someone fix up for you. Annoys as piano.

[Jack Barry]

All right. Thank you, Robin Morgan.

[Juvenile Jury Kids (Dickie Orland, Robin Morgan, Kong Liu, Peggy Bruder, Charlie Hankinson)]

Well, my mother once told me that music is the language of the soul. So why don't you enjoy the music in this foreign language and then your sister won't understand you and she'll leave you alone.

[Jack Barry]

She really can talk clear when she's got her teeth in all the way. Thank you, Kung Lu.

[Juvenile Jury Kids (Dickie Orland, Robin Morgan, Kong Liu, Peggy Bruder, Charlie Hankinson)]

Well, why don't you go to somewhere that you play records? Then she won't bother you. Well, where's that? Somewhere? Maybe in a candy store.

[Jack Barry]

All right. She would be able to eat the candy she's got over the teeth too. Don Becky Verder.

[Juvenile Jury Kids (Dickie Orland, Robin Morgan, Kong Liu, Peggy Bruder, Charlie Hankinson)]

Well, why don't your mother get her a little. Little toy piano? But of course, it better be played and let her play that because after all, when she grows up, she may be a very big musician.

[Jack Barry]

All right. And finally, Charlie Hankinson.

[Juvenile Jury Kids (Dickie Orland, Robin Morgan, Kong Liu, Peggy Bruder, Charlie Hankinson)]

Well, if she wants to play it so badly, let. You can play it and tell her sister achieving she doesn't want her to play and she tell her parents on her and then she'll stop doing that immediately. And then she can enjoy a record song she wants.

[Jack Barry]

Thank you, Charlie. I think that a schedule ought to be arranged by the mother so that when you are practicing that your younger sister is somewhere else in the house so she can't be anywhere near to disturb you because your music is certainly very important. Thank you very much for being with us, Kathy Chapman. If you would like to attend a broadcast of juvenile jury here in New York City, write to Juvenile Jury Box 148, New York Gate and tickets will be mailed out. Now, here's that important announcement I said at the start of the show for you folks out along Chicago way. Ever since we've been on the air, we've been broadcasting right here in the Guild Theater in New York city. But on November 16, November 16 we'll be broadcasting from that great city in the Midwest, Chicago. This will be the juvenile jury's first out of town trip. And so if you live in or around Chicago and would like to attend the November 16th broadcast of juvenile jury, write to the ticket office, Mutual Broadcasting System, Tribune Tower, Chicago, Illinois. If you'd like to attend the juvenile jury broadcast of November 16th in Chicago, write to the ticket office, Mutual Broadcasting System, Tribune Tower, Chicago. We'll be looking forward to meeting a lot of you. Now let's go back to our questions. The next letter was sent by Mrs. Ky, who is from Chicago. And incidentally, we're sending her a $100 radio phonograph with a top 10 record album. And she writes as follows. On rainy days when my 5 year old son has to stay in the house, he insists on playing with his water pistol. He comes into the kitchen and fills his gun from a pot of soup or stew that's cooking on the stove and shoots it at the curtains and all over the room. What can I do?

[Juvenile Jury Kids (Dickie Orland, Robin Morgan, Kong Liu, Peggy Bruder, Charlie Hankinson)]

Charlie Hankinson shoots it at the turret and he does that. They'll get through so much. Why you don't take them down at rainy days and just turn them away rain and turn them back off on sunny day so we won't be able to word about that.

[Jack Barry]

Charlie, Charlie, just one question. What did you call those things that.

[Juvenile Jury Kids (Dickie Orland, Robin Morgan, Kong Liu, Peggy Bruder, Charlie Hankinson)]

Are hanging up the curtains?

[Jack Barry]

Curtains.

[John Scott]

Atta boy.

[Jack Barry]

I thought you said curtains. Thank you, sir.

[Juvenile Jury Kids (Dickie Orland, Robin Morgan, Kong Liu, Peggy Bruder, Charlie Hankinson)]

Why don't you waterproof the house?

[Jack Barry]

Waterproof the house?

[Juvenile Jury Kids (Dickie Orland, Robin Morgan, Kong Liu, Peggy Bruder, Charlie Hankinson)]

Yeah.

[Jack Barry]

That'd probably be a pretty costly operation.

[Juvenile Jury Kids (Dickie Orland, Robin Morgan, Kong Liu, Peggy Bruder, Charlie Hankinson)]

Well, for that matter, Mr. Barry, why don't you suit proof the house.

[Jack Barry]

So waterproofing is a little more logical? Khan, Lou.

[Juvenile Jury Kids (Dickie Orland, Robin Morgan, Kong Liu, Peggy Bruder, Charlie Hankinson)]

Maybe he shoots his water pistol because he gets a bang out of it.

[Jack Barry]

Well, Kong will poopoo.

[John Scott]

I'm sure he does.

[Jack Barry]

Dickie Orland.

[Juvenile Jury Kids (Dickie Orland, Robin Morgan, Kong Liu, Peggy Bruder, Charlie Hankinson)]

Well, the mother should make the curtains out of sponge. Then when he shoots on them and they're ready to eat, all the mother has to do is ring out the curtains.

[Jack Barry]

All right, Jeff. I think you've all given some very, very excellent suggestions. Do we have time for another letter or we get to our next in person? No, I guess we haven't got time for another letter. But our jurors will be back in just a moment with more questions and answers. Now here's John Scott and Gaines.

[John Scott]

You know, Gainesy. I've been thinking. Your vocabulary needs a new word. Like what? Like K R U N C H O N. Crunch on. Yes. Fella Gaines crunch on. Gosh, you got that right off. And you know boy, you'll go for crunch on right off too. For crunch on is gaines meal compressing the crunchy bite sized pellets. What do you think of that? That's good. You bet it's good for you too. You see, crunch on like game's complete meal, nourishes every inch of a dog. It contains everything dogs are known to need. Proteans, fats, carbohydrates, plus all the essential vitamins and minerals and more of the required amount. You want crunch on? Then sit up fella and I'll toss you one there. Nice catch, James. He isn't crunch on a swell reward for a trick well done. Come on. Is it yes. Yes indeed. Yes is right boy. So next time master goes shopping talkin to bring you Gaines crudge off. What else boy? Games complete bill.

[Juvenile Jury Kids (Dickie Orland, Robin Morgan, Kong Liu, Peggy Bruder, Charlie Hankinson)]

Yes fellas, play it smart.

[John Scott]

And always be sure you speak speak for games. America's largest selling dog.

[Jack Barry]

Thank you Scotty. And Gaines. Here is our second in person guest of the week. He is four four and a half year old Eugene Snyder of the Bronx, New York. Gene, will you, will you please tell your problem to the jury?

[Juvenile Jury Kids (Dickie Orland, Robin Morgan, Kong Liu, Peggy Bruder, Charlie Hankinson)]

When I get up in the morning, my mother wants me to wreak, but I want to play. I'm waving at the jury.

[Jack Barry]

I see you up in the morning, you want to play that your mother wants you to eat. All right, let's hear the. Think about it, Charlie.

[Juvenile Jury Kids (Dickie Orland, Robin Morgan, Kong Liu, Peggy Bruder, Charlie Hankinson)]

What do you want? What do you mean? Want to play? I, I, I do too. I, I play to 10 o' clock when I don't have to go to school.

[Jack Barry]

Peggy, how old are you?

[Juvenile Jury Kids (Dickie Orland, Robin Morgan, Kong Liu, Peggy Bruder, Charlie Hankinson)]

Four years. And then do you have to go to school? Yes. What school do you go to? Holy Spirit School.

[Jack Barry]

Holy Spirit School. All right, any other questions here.

[Juvenile Jury Kids (Dickie Orland, Robin Morgan, Kong Liu, Peggy Bruder, Charlie Hankinson)]

Han Lu, what time do you get up? Seven o'. Clock. What time do you have to go to school?

[Jack Barry]

What time do you go to school, Jaden? About 8:30, I think.

[Juvenile Jury Kids (Dickie Orland, Robin Morgan, Kong Liu, Peggy Bruder, Charlie Hankinson)]

8:30 or so.

[Jack Barry]

Yes. Huh.

[Juvenile Jury Kids (Dickie Orland, Robin Morgan, Kong Liu, Peggy Bruder, Charlie Hankinson)]

Robin, what time do you go to bed? Seven clock. Well, what time do you wake up? Seven o'. Clock.

[Jack Barry]

What time do you have your breakfast? Gene really thinks about these things, doesn't he?

[Juvenile Jury Kids (Dickie Orland, Robin Morgan, Kong Liu, Peggy Bruder, Charlie Hankinson)]

What time do you. How long Hours.

[Jack Barry]

Robin. Excuse me. Let him answer this one question. What time do you have your breakfast?

[Juvenile Jury Kids (Dickie Orland, Robin Morgan, Kong Liu, Peggy Bruder, Charlie Hankinson)]

I think 7 o'. Clock.

[Jack Barry]

There's a lot of confusion at 7 o', clock, isn't there?

[Juvenile Jury Kids (Dickie Orland, Robin Morgan, Kong Liu, Peggy Bruder, Charlie Hankinson)]

How, how are these late? How long do you sleep?

[Jack Barry]

Oh, Robin, we'll be here all afternoon before he figures this one out. It's seven to seven. It's 12 hours. I'll figure that one out for Jean.

[John Scott]

That's pretty hard.

[Juvenile Jury Kids (Dickie Orland, Robin Morgan, Kong Liu, Peggy Bruder, Charlie Hankinson)]

Dicky Orland, can you tell time? No. Well, why don't you tell your mother that your stomach can't tell time either and you don't want to know nothing.

[Jack Barry]

Charlie Hankinson, did you have another question you wanted to ask?

[Juvenile Jury Kids (Dickie Orland, Robin Morgan, Kong Liu, Peggy Bruder, Charlie Hankinson)]

No.

[Jack Barry]

No. Okay. Peggy Brewer.

[Juvenile Jury Kids (Dickie Orland, Robin Morgan, Kong Liu, Peggy Bruder, Charlie Hankinson)]

Well, why don't you want to eat?

[Jack Barry]

Why don't you want to eat?

[Juvenile Jury Kids (Dickie Orland, Robin Morgan, Kong Liu, Peggy Bruder, Charlie Hankinson)]

Jane, why don't you want to eat? Because I'm not hungry in the morning. Why does your mother want to eat? I get strength to go out and play.

[Jack Barry]

Give you strength to go out and play.

[John Scott]

I see.

[Jack Barry]

That's a good reason. Yes. Robin.

[Juvenile Jury Kids (Dickie Orland, Robin Morgan, Kong Liu, Peggy Bruder, Charlie Hankinson)]

Well, how old are you?

[Jack Barry]

He's. He said before he's four and a half. Robin.

[Juvenile Jury Kids (Dickie Orland, Robin Morgan, Kong Liu, Peggy Bruder, Charlie Hankinson)]

Well, aren't you hungry after that long 12 hour sleep? No. Tell me, is there anything special that you get for breakfast? No, I really don't have anything special.

[Jack Barry]

Robin. Let's take a quick run down here and find out. One time you get up and whether she got to play or whether she should be allowed to eat. What do you think, Dicky? Shall he eat first or play first?

[Juvenile Jury Kids (Dickie Orland, Robin Morgan, Kong Liu, Peggy Bruder, Charlie Hankinson)]

Well, you should drink a lot of water before you go to bed and then you'll be so busy getting up during the night.

[Jack Barry]

Thank you, Richard. Thank you very much, Robin Morgan.

[Juvenile Jury Kids (Dickie Orland, Robin Morgan, Kong Liu, Peggy Bruder, Charlie Hankinson)]

Well, why don't you and your mother compromised that instead of really eating when you wake up, you'll just take about 15 or 19 vitamin pills and then you won't have to eat.

[Jack Barry]

Thank you very much. Allow to play, Kang Lu.

[Juvenile Jury Kids (Dickie Orland, Robin Morgan, Kong Liu, Peggy Bruder, Charlie Hankinson)]

Well, I think you should eat before you play, then it'll give you more strength.

[Jack Barry]

All right, Peggy Brewer.

[Juvenile Jury Kids (Dickie Orland, Robin Morgan, Kong Liu, Peggy Bruder, Charlie Hankinson)]

Well, after such a long night's sleep, you definitely should. It means you'd have vitamins anyway.

[Jack Barry]

All right, Charlie Hankerson.

[Juvenile Jury Kids (Dickie Orland, Robin Morgan, Kong Liu, Peggy Bruder, Charlie Hankinson)]

I think that you should eat before you play.

[Jack Barry]

I think it's generally agreed by the members of the juvenile jury that you better eat something before you play. Thank you very much for being with us, Gene Snyder. Now here's John Scott to tell you how you may win a radio phonograph.

[John Scott]

If you have a question, send it to the juvenile jury, box 148, N.Y. 8, N.Y. if your question is used on the air, you'll receive a $100 monitor combination radio phonograph with an automatic record changer that plays both 10 and 12 inch records, plus a complete album of four brand new comedy records by George Burns and Gracie Allen, one of the top 10 albums. The decision of the judges is final and all entries become our property.

[Jack Barry]

Thank you, John. Our time is up. So until next week, good luck from.

[Juvenile Jury Kids (Dickie Orland, Robin Morgan, Kong Liu, Peggy Bruder, Charlie Hankinson)]

Dickie Rowland, Robin Morgan Kong Liu, Peggy.

[Jack Barry]

Bruder, Charlie Hackerson, and for me, Jack Barry. With this closing thought. Out of the mouths of babes. All times come gems.

[John Scott]

Come on, Daniel Jones. Presented each week at the same time by Game's complete meal, a meal that nourishes every inch of your dog. This is John Scott speaking. This program came from New York. Stay tuned now for a fascinating story of strange events on House of Mystery. This is the Mutual Broadcasting System.

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