Tex And Jinx 470903 Guest - Nancy Walker_OTRRPG

Summary

Podcast Summary: Harold's Old Time Radio

Episode: Tex And Jinx 470903 Guest - Nancy Walker_OTRRPG
Date: February 20, 2026
Guests: Nancy Walker, Jack Kramer, Kira Petrovskaya
Hosts: Tex McCrary, Jinx Falkenberg
Summary by: Podcast Summarizer

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Episode Overview

This lively episode of Tex and Jinx—originally airing September 3, 1947—features the theme of “hard luck” rather than the usual parade of guest success stories. The hosts, Tex McCrary and Jinx Falkenberg, bring together Broadway star Nancy Walker, tennis champion Jack Kramer, and Russian actress/singer/war bride Kira Petrovskaya. The discussion is witty, playful, and often flirtatious, with humor and personal anecdotes about show business struggles, gender dynamics in sports, and life experiences during and after World War II.

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Featured Guests

• Nancy Walker: Renowned Broadway musical actress famous for playing girl-who-never-gets-her-man roles
• Jack Kramer: U.S. and Wimbledon tennis champion, just featured on the covers of Newsweek and Time
• Kira Petrovskaya: Russian actress, singer, WWII sniper, and recent American immigrant
• Danny Seymour: Announcer, with recurring promotions

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Key Segments & Highlights

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1. Introduction & The “Hard Luck” Theme

[01:09–02:34]

• The episode kicks off with Danny Seymour’s signature intro, quickly moving into a playful mood.
• Jinx introduces Nancy Walker as the perennial “girl who never gets her man.”
• Tex jovially warns about Nancy knowing too much of his (bad) tennis game.
• The theme is set: the sad tales of high-spirited folks unlucky in life, love, or sport.

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2. Nancy Walker’s Audition Woes & Comic Persona

[02:34–07:44]

• Nancy describes her first big Broadway audition with comic self-deprecation. Despite her intentions for a serious performance, audiences would always laugh ("No matter what I do, people laugh. Look at Jack Kramer over there. He’s laughing. Oh, I love that man. And what is his reaction? He laughs." — Nancy Walker, [04:46]).
• Jinx suggests perhaps Nancy's problem with landing a man is that she looks “too young”, and isn’t seen as mature enough for more serious dramatic roles ("Frankly, you’re too young, Nancy." — Jinx Falkenberg, [05:07]).
• Nancy playfully retorts with a musical performance of “What Do You Think I Am? (I’m In Love)” in an effort to prove her grown-up credentials [05:09–06:53].
• “I’m getting older. I’m starting to smolder. All my heart needs is a shove. What do you think I am? I’m in love.” — Nancy Walker, [05:49]
• Banter follows about being subtle with men.
• Nancy relishes a rare compliment: “Go away. A man said I had a pretty smile. This is a moment I want to share with me!” — Nancy Walker, [07:29]

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3. The Tennis World with Jack Kramer

[08:34–14:21]

• Tennis star Jack Kramer is introduced as “the king of the tennis world.”
• Nancy flirts and challenges him to a mixed doubles ("Mr. Kramer, my name is Nancy Walker...I'd be glad to whip up a little mixed doubles...I could sort of, well, warm you up for the finals." — Nancy Walker, [08:53]).
• Kramer bluntly says he “doesn’t play tennis with girls,” as he doesn’t learn anything—which elicits groans and more playful jabs from Nancy.
• Kramer is candid about the gender gap in tennis: “The number 10 man would murder the number 1 woman,” ([09:38])
• Kramer discusses the importance of psychology and study in tennis, and the massive physical demands.
• Kramer and the hosts recount his streak of bad luck: appendicitis before a crucial match, clam poisoning, and losing form after military service.
• Discussion on the postwar landscape of tennis, with American players dominating due to disruptions in other countries.
• Kramer philosophizes: “Our country is on top in tennis because we’re on top in everything else. But that’s something to be thankful for, not to brag about.” ([14:13])

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4. Kira Petrovskaya’s War-Time and Stage Stories

[17:26–22:43]

• Kira, introduced as both beautiful and a wartime sniper ("During the war, she used to be a, among other things, a sniper killing Germans..."), shares memories of being a sharpshooter during the siege of Leningrad.
• "I found a German about 500 yards from us, and I took very careful aim... and I killed him. Then...I got very sick. My companion was very angry with me. He called me Baba, which means old woman." — Kira Petrovskaya, [19:00]
• Segueing to her stage career, Kira discusses acting in Russian repertory theaters, her love for American movies and early attempts at lipstick (“in Russia, girls don’t use lipstick until 19 or 20. But I did when I was 16, and people began to mistake me for an actress. It was very pleasant…” — [19:33])
• She sings “The Man I Love” for the American audience [20:12–22:15].
• Flirtatious banter about her beauty and her “Ipana smile” follows.

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5. Culture Clash: American vs. Russian Ways

[24:08–25:10]

• The group jokes about Americans’ advertising habits, which are “not needed in Russia… there’s only one brand of everything and never enough of anything.”
• Kira talks about American movies’ popularity in Russia, especially Rita Hayworth (pronounced “Rita Havert”). Kira quips: "You know, in Russia, sex is not permitted on the stage." ([24:44])

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6. Talk of Career Typecasting & Creative Dreams

[25:23–27:44]

• Nancy laments being typecast as a comic (“I'm always being cast wrong. That's my trouble. Producers don't understand my type.” — Nancy Walker, [25:25])
• Kira shares that her American husband is particular: she can only play roles with “no kissing.”
• "Well, you see, in the play I am kissed, but I die before I can return the kiss. So everything is fine." —Kira Petrovskaya, [27:36]
• Nancy proposes she’ll picket this injustice.

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7. “Man Map” and the Chances of Love

[26:23–27:44]

• Nancy reveals she’s mapped out regions of the U.S. with the best chance of meeting available men (Nevada being the top prospect: “In Nevada, there are 200 men for every 100 women. Maybe they only have 300 people out there. But the boys outnumber the girls two to one.” — Nancy Walker, [26:57])
• Kira says she’s found her man and a play where the role and her husband’s wishes align.

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8. Closing: Nancy’s Serenade for Jack Kramer

[27:57–29:35]

• Nancy serenades Kramer with a parody fight song: “Buckle down, Jack Kramer, buckle down. You can win Jack Kramer if you knuckle down…” [28:19–29:16]
• Kira closes with a tongue-in-cheek lesson: “Learn a lesson from Annie Oakley, you'll never get a feller with a gun.” ([29:38])
• Jinx jokes, “Not even in Nevada.”

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• “No matter what I do, people laugh. Look at Jack Kramer over there. He’s laughing. Oh, I love that man. And what is his reaction? He laughs.” — Nancy Walker, [04:46]
• "Frankly, you're too young, Nancy." — Jinx Falkenberg, [05:07]
• “Girls can't get around fast enough. They lack power and speed and they get tired so quickly.” — Jack Kramer, [10:08]
• “In Russia, there’s only one brand of everything and never enough of anything, so it’s no need to advertise.” — Kira Petrovskaya, [24:13]
• "You know, in Russia, sex is not permitted on the stage." — Kira Petrovskaya, [24:44]
• “Well, in Nevada, there are 200 men for every 100 women. ... and that's the place for girl to meet boy. Nevada." — Nancy Walker, [26:57]
• “Learn a lesson from Annie Oakley, you'll never get a feller with a gun.” — Kira Petrovskaya, [29:38]

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Key Timestamps

• [01:09] — Show’s introduction, guest lineup, announcement of “hard luck” theme
• [03:23] — Nancy Walker recounts her first Broadway audition
• [05:09] — Nancy Walker’s comic song “What Do You Think I Am?”
• [08:34] — Jack Kramer enters, sporting banter about men vs women in tennis
• [12:02] — Jack Kramer on grueling physical toll of tennis
• [14:21] — Kramer on international tennis, American dominance postwar
• [17:26] — Kira Petrovskaya’s background, war and stage stories
• [20:12] — Kira sings “The Man I Love”
• [24:13] — Cultural differences: advertising in America vs Russia
• [26:23] — Nancy’s “man map” and chances of romance in Nevada
• [28:19] — Nancy’s comic “fight song” serenade to Jack Kramer
• [29:38] — Kira’s closing wisdom (Annie Oakley call-back)

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Tone and Style

The episode maintains a crisp, fast-paced, comedic banter throughout, with quick-witted exchanges, gentle teasing, and self-deprecation. Each segment is marked with warmth and good humor, even when discussing war stories or professional setbacks. The guests—especially Nancy Walker—shine with sharp comic timing, while Kira’s Russian-accented English and unique wartime experience delight the hosts and audience.

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Final Thoughts

This episode of Tex and Jinx is a gleeful blend of Golden Age radio warmth, celebrity banter, and postwar optimism mixed with nostalgia and the realities of “hard luck.” The hosts balance humor with sincere appreciation for the guests’ journeys, and the memorable moments—particularly Nancy’s songs, Kira’s Russian tales, and Kramer’s candor—make for an entertaining snapshot of 1940s radio at its best.

Transcript

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[Nancy Walker]

Oh, thank you.

[Tex McCrary]

Thank you, Danny Seymour, for the build up. But tonight, you know, I think tonight we'd better drop that line about my tennis because one of our guests tonight knows much too much about my game. But Tex, how about your handling the fanfare, okay?

[Jinx Falkenberg]

And I'll keep quiet about your game too, Jinx. We've got a good lineup in the parade tonight. Up front again is Johnny Gueneri, is Peter and his band. And next, a young lady who's learned that it pays to laugh at everything except a man. She's been a star in three great Broadway musicals. And in each one she's played the part of a girl who never, absolutely never, never gets her man. And her name is Nancy Walker.

[Nancy Walker]

Whisper her name.

[Jinx Falkenberg]

That was Nancy Walker. But she jumped the gun.

[Tex McCrary]

And talking about guns, another guest tonight is a beautiful Russian girl, a cross, I think, between Lily Pons and Lana Turner.

[Jinx Falkenberg]

She looks wonderful. And she sings.

[Tex McCrary]

And during the war, she used to be a, among other things, a sniper killing Germans. And her name, Kira Petrovskaya.

[Nancy Walker]

She shoots men. Send her home.

[Jinx Falkenberg]

And that was Nancy Walker Again. Too soon again.

[Tex McCrary]

And our other guest tonight, spotlighted right now more than any other young man in America, the COVID man on Newsweek magazine two weeks ago, on the COVID of Time magazine this week, the champ with the greatest racket in the world.

[Jinx Falkenberg]

No puns. Tonight, Jinx.

[Tex McCrary]

Okay, we'll cut it short. We'll just say the king of the tennis world, Jack Kramer.

[Jinx Falkenberg]

That's the lineup. A set up for three success stories. But that's not the angle tonight. No success stories. Our theme tonight is hard luck. Whoa, whoa. Nothing but woe and wailing. First, the sad saga of stout hearted, high purpose Nancy Walker, whose dream in life was to see her name in lights as a great actress, a great singer, and Broadway will not soon forget her first audition. Producer George Abbott was listening to the young and talented Americans who came to try out for his great show, Best Foot Forward. He sat out there in the empty theater, and then Nancy walked out on the stage. There was a hush in the theater. Nancy leaned easily against the rehearsal piano, looked out over the empty seats and sang a song. Well, an audience would have sobbed aloud at the song.

[Tex McCrary]

Nancy, what was the song that you sang that day?

[Nancy Walker]

Jinx. I believe that melody will be remembered as long as humans can sing a haunting, wistful ballad called Bounce Me, Brother, with a solid four.

[Jinx Falkenberg]

And solid is the word for Nancy. Okay, Nancy Walker, now you're on.

[Nancy Walker]

Hello, friends. With all that stuff about Kramer the COVID boy, you lower my morale. Kramer on the COVID of Newsweek first, and then you two, and now Kramer on the COVID of Time. The way you got things rigged, you're nothing if you can't get your face on a cover.

[Tex McCrary]

Well, Nancy, you must understand that you have to suffer before these things come to you. Now, have you suffered, Nancy?

[Kira Petrovskaya]

Suffered?

[Nancy Walker]

Suffer? Listen, my dear friends, nobody ever suffered like I did at that audition. You have just dug out of my memoirs, unpublished. I sing a tender love song like Bounce Me, Brother, a wistful little thing. And what happens? People laugh. In about 10 minutes, the laughter dies. And Mr. Rogers says to me, Ms. Walker, would you please let us see how you would move across the stage? I oblige like this. And what happens? They laugh. No matter what I do, people laugh. Look at Jack Kramer over there. He's laughing. Oh, I love that man. And what is his reaction? He laughs.

[Jinx Falkenberg]

You know, Nancy, I believe I know what's wrong, why you have so much trouble landing a man.

[Nancy Walker]

Well, tell me, doctor. Come closer, do.

[Jinx Falkenberg]

No, I'm serious, Nancy. The trouble is you look too young. A bobby soxer who might swoon for Sinatra, but you simply aren't the type to handle a part that would require understanding of a deep, dramatic feeling of love. Frankly, you're too young, Nancy.

[Nancy Walker]

Young.

Johnny, a little music, please. This man must be straightened out. What do you think I am, just a baby? What do you think I am, just a child?

What do you think I go around with men for?

And who do you think I've got that little yen for? Oh, why do you think of me as your sister? Couldn't you just for once be a man?

I'm getting older. I'm starting to smolder. All my heart needs is A show. What do you think I am? I'm in love

what do you think I am? Just a baby now what do you think I am? I am just a brat what do

you think that twinkles in my eye for?

And who do you think I sigh

that little sigh for?

Oh, why do you think of me as just your sister? Say, couldn't you just for once be a man?

Now I'm getting older I'm still starting to smolder all my heart needs is a shove what do you think I am? I'm in love.

[Jinx Falkenberg]

Okay, Nancy, you win. You are grown up. And you sang that song very well. But I'm afraid you'll never get Jack Kramer or any other man with that kind of a song.

[Tex McCrary]

Oh, Texas, right. Nancy, if you're going to run after a man, you've got to be more subtle.

[Nancy Walker]

Well, running after a man isn't my problem. The problem starts when I catch up with him.

[Tex McCrary]

Oh, that's when you're to act subtle, Nancy. Be shy and reserved and smile prettily at everything he says. Well, sure.

[Danny Seymour]

Nancy, you've got a pretty smile. Make the most of it.

[Nancy Walker]

Do you mind repeating that? Danny?

[Danny Seymour]

I said you've got a pretty smile.

[Jinx Falkenberg]

And, Nancy, don't text.

[Nancy Walker]

Go away. A man said I had a pretty smile. This is a moment I want to share with me. Danny, my boy. Since my teeth don't light up and spell out I panna when I smile, I consider your words a compliment. Thank you.

[Danny Seymour]

Oh, thank you. It's true, too, that a lovely smile can help you in so many ways.

[Tex McCrary]

True also that I panic and help you in so many ways, too. Why, I panic and help your teeth, as well as your smile, to a brightness and loveliness that you never thought possible.

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[Jinx Falkenberg]

And now, Nancy Walker, it's time to meet your dream man, man of the

[Tex McCrary]

hour, king of the tennis court, US

[Jinx Falkenberg]

Singles champion, Wimbledon winner, number one, Davis

[Tex McCrary]

Cupper, greatest living tennis player, Jack Kramer.

[Jinx Falkenberg]

Hello, jinx.

[Nancy Walker]

Hi, Tex. Mr. Kramer, my name is Nancy Walker. I'm a junior, Junior champion. So you haven't heard of me yet, but I'd be glad to whip Up a little mixed doubles. We could sort of, well, you know. Well, I could sort of, well, warm you up for the finals.

[Jinx Falkenberg]

Well, thanks, Nancy.

[Jack Kramer]

I'd like to play with you. But you see, I don't play tennis with girls. I don't learn anything, so I can't waste the time anymore.

[Nancy Walker]

Oh, you don't learn anything from girls.

Oh.

Oh, I see.

[Kira Petrovskaya]

I'm sorry.

[Jinx Falkenberg]

Seriously, Jack, what is the story about the war between the sexes? When boy meets girl on the tennis court? Could the number one woman tennis player ever beat, say, the 10th ranking man player?

[Jack Kramer]

He'd murder her. Maybe she'd get a couple of games if he was polite, but he'd murder in a match.

[Tex McCrary]

And I'm afraid he's right, Tex, because I remember when Jack was just starting as a boy wonder at the Los Angeles Tennis Club. Alice Marble was the top tennis queen and Jack was then only 15. And he beat Alice Marble then without too much trouble.

[Nancy Walker]

Well, now, Mr. Kramer, what you say interests me very strangely. Exactly what is it that makes females so feeble at tennis, I would like to know.

[Jack Kramer]

Well, Nancy, it's very simple. Girls can't get around fast enough. They lack power and speed and they get tired so quickly.

[Nancy Walker]

Well, I guess you have that summed up advantage. Kramer. He leads 30 love.

[Tex McCrary]

Well, the cards seem to be stacked against us, but at least girls are better natured so we don't take the game quite as seriously.

[Jack Kramer]

That's true. The girls do have better temperaments, but.

[Nancy Walker]

No, but the score is deuce.

[Jack Kramer]

Well, I was just going to admit that we do take the game pretty seriously. We have to. We train for a match as carefully as Joe Lewis trains for a title fight. I practice every day. I study the guys I'm going to have to play. And I know where they're weak and I figure out how to take advantage of it. A top player can win at least one game out of every set before he goes on the court. Just by studying the psychology of the man, he's got to play.

[Jinx Falkenberg]

Well, Jack, I've heard about that in football, but how does it work in tennis?

[Jack Kramer]

Well, take a tip I learned from my old coach, Cliff Roach, many years ago. If you're going to meet a man who's going to fight to win that first set and it turns out to be a long, even set, then you know it's human nature to let down a little at the start of the second set, okay? That's the time to bear down. Get the jump on him in the first two games, break his service Early.

[Nancy Walker]

Boy, maybe if I studied psychology, I wouldn't let so many men get away. Now, let's see. When they let down, you bear down. Hmm.

[Tex McCrary]

Well, Nancy, Nancy, you'll learn that strategy and psychology are very important in tennis. For instance, on a passing shot, don't drive one down the alley if you're against the sidelines because it gives the other fellow too many angles for a cross court return.

[Nancy Walker]

Hmm. Passing shots drive one down the alley. Cross court returns. Mm. Listen, all I ask from exercise is to lose weight. I don't want to wind up with a Ph.D.

[Tex McCrary]

well, Nancy, you can do that, too. In tennis, you can lose weight. How about it, Jack?

[Jack Kramer]

That's right, Jenks. In an average match, I'll drop around five pounds. And in one five set playoff one afternoon, I lost 12 pounds.

[Nancy Walker]

Well, now, it is obvious, Mr. Kramer, you have suffered. I think you've earned your way onto the COVID of Time.

[Jinx Falkenberg]

Nancy, you aren't kidding. Jack Kramer has suffered. He's had so much hard luck in his career that I think his name should be Jinx instead of Jack.

[Tex McCrary]

Well, he really has had tough luck. When he was all legs and 16 years old, he was already knocking off players like Vines and Stofen and Perry whenever they let down even a little. And he held the national boys title. And in 1942, when he was 21, he dreamed of whipping all the men for the big crown.

[Jinx Falkenberg]

And that's when hard luck really unloaded on Jack Kramer. Because the day before an important match, he was laid low with appendicitis.

[Tex McCrary]

And then the next year, 1943, in the middle of the nationals, he doubled up from eating clams, and he got clam poisoning. I think he must have had a malted milk with those clams, too.

[Jinx Falkenberg]

Probably did.

[Tex McCrary]

He just finished two right here.

[Jinx Falkenberg]

And then, like a lot of guys, he wound up in uniform out in the Pacific. Five landings in the Pacific, but no tennis in 13 months. Except for a few pickup matches on coral beaches and bomber strips.

[Tex McCrary]

And then when he got out of uniform, he lost his touch and lost his confidence. But he did win the title last year. And next week, even though my brother Bob will probably meet him in the quarterfinals, Jack Kramer, I'm afraid, is the best bet to take the title again.

[Jack Kramer]

Jenks, don't put the Indian sign on me. But listen, you were talking about what happens to tennis players in the army and Navy. You know, that's the answer to a lot of. To that question about what happened to the British players. They were on top of the game with the French for so many long years.

[Jinx Falkenberg]

Yeah. Jack, what did happen to the British players?

[Jack Kramer]

Well, the answer is that while Britain was at war for so long, the kids who might have been learning how to handle a racket were flying Spitfires or learning to sleep four in a foxhole instead. And Britain still is at war, at least at the dinner table, where the rations are even slimmer today than during wartime. Over at Wimbledon, we saw how those things really are in Britain today. It shows up in tennis in a way you can see and understand.

[Jinx Falkenberg]

Well, Jack, how do you explain the way that American players seem to have sort of monopolized tennis these days?

[Jack Kramer]

Our country is on top in tennis because we're on top in everything else. But that's something to be thankful for, not to brag about.

[Jinx Falkenberg]

You're so right there, Jack.

[Jack Kramer]

But there's another thing I think American sports fans have learned. How to be winners. Americans still cheer for the underdog. It was a funny feeling in the Davis cup matches against Australia to hear the Americans in the stands rooting for the Australians. We understood, so we didn't mind.

[Jinx Falkenberg]

I suppose, Jack, there's only one big country that doesn't go in for tennis very much. Yes.

[Jack Kramer]

Russia. I don't remember ever seeing a Russian in an international match.

[Tex McCrary]

That's right, Jack. There are no Russians in the Davis cup matches. But maybe our next guest can tell us something about the Russians. Tex, will you handle the fanfare?

[Jinx Falkenberg]

Okay. Okay, in this corner, our next guest is one of the Russian girls who married Americans during the war. And then somehow she got permission to leave the Soviet and come to America as a war bride. Only five Russian war brides managed to wangle that precious passport out of Russia from Mr. Mullet.

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[Nancy Walker]

Start your GoFundMe today at gofundme.com that's gofundme.com gofundme.

[Jinx Falkenberg]

This podcast is supported by GoFundMe. She's going to be an American citizen next year. She's married now to the director of All American Red Cross in Russia during the war. Now she lives on a farm in Pennsylvania. But she's working on a dream that she's had since she was 10 years old. Back in the days when she saved 10 rubles then worth $1, she went to a railroad station and tried to buy a ticket to the usa. She wanted to be an actress in America, but the cops caught her and she was publicly spanked and sent home. But now she's grown up. She's blonde and beautiful. She has 10 years of stardom in Russian theaters behind her as an actress and singer. And she's got her eye on Broadway.

[Tex McCrary]

And what she gets her eye on, she usually gets because during the war she was a sniper, a sharpshooter.

[Jinx Falkenberg]

And now here she is for her American debut, Kira Petrovskaya.

[Kira Petrovskaya]

That's a good drink.

[Jinx Falkenberg]

What's that? I beg your pardon?

[Kira Petrovskaya]

How are you?

[Jinx Falkenberg]

Oh, how are you, Kira?

[Tex McCrary]

This is your first appearance, isn't it?

[Kira Petrovskaya]

Yes, it is my first time on an American stage and I'm very nervous but very happy.

[Jinx Falkenberg]

Well, Kira, we hope the song you sing tonight will help you land on the right stages here in New York.

[Nancy Walker]

Listen, comrade, before we get on to

[Tex McCrary]

the future,

[Nancy Walker]

I'm kind of more interested in your past. Now, let me get this straight. Am I to understand that you went around shooting men?

[Kira Petrovskaya]

Well, during the war, it was the thing we needed to shoot and kill the Germans who were besieged Leningrad. I was a sharpshooter with medals in my school. So of course I trained to be a sniper. When an experienced sniper took me out to train me for three weeks, I was alright with my lessons. My teacher had killed 104 Germans and he said I would kill many also.

[Tex McCrary]

And you liked the idea of being a sniper at first, Kiro?

[Kira Petrovskaya]

Well, you see, as an actress, I helped to propagandize the Kill a German campaign. So it was necessary That I learned to do it myself.

[Jinx Falkenberg]

And then you did go out on a job?

[Nancy Walker]

Of course.

[Kira Petrovskaya]

When I finished my training, I was in an old racket house with an experienced sniper by my. By my side. I found a German about 500 yards from us, and I took very careful aim. Well, and I killed him.

[Jinx Falkenberg]

Then what happened?

[Kira Petrovskaya]

Well, and then I got very sick. Oh, my companion was very angry with me. He called me Baba, which means old woman. Well, I suppose I wasn't a very good sniper.

[Tex McCrary]

Gosh, we do get on some strange subjects. But, Kira, you know, we really meant to talk to you about singing and being an actress in Russia. So let's talk about that. Tell us, when did you get your start? And when did you know that you wanted to be on the stage?

[Kira Petrovskaya]

Oh, a long time ago. I read American movie magazines and began to use lipstick when I was very young. You know, in Russia, girls don't use lipstick until they are 19 or 20. But I did when I was 16, and people began to mistake me for an actress. It was very pleasant to be mistaken for an actress.

[Jinx Falkenberg]

Yes, Kira, but you weren't mistaken for an actress. Very long I've been checking up on you. You played Shakespeare in Russia, all over Russia and repertory. You were the American secretary in the famous Soviet satire Mr. Perkins goes to Moscow. And you spent the war entertaining, singing to the troops all up and down the Russian front.

[Tex McCrary]

And what kind of songs did you sing for the Russian troops, Kira?

[Kira Petrovskaya]

Well, there was one song, an American song that the Russians loved. It was sort of sad. I wonder if you recognize it the way I sing it.

[Nancy Walker]

Someday he'll come along the man I love and he'll be big and strong the man I love and when he comes my way I'll do my best to make him. He'll look at me and smile I'll understand and in a little while he'll take my hand and though it seems absurd I know we both won't say a word maybe I shall meet him someday maybe Monday maybe not Till I'm sure to meet him one day maybe Tuesday will be my good news Today he'll build a little home Just meant for two from which I'll never run who would would you and sorrow I'm waiting for the man I.

Oh, I'll

[Tex McCrary]

bet Russia misses you. Kira, that was lovely. And the expression in your face when you sang. Well, you looked as pretty as a picture. Didn't she, Tex?

[Kira Petrovskaya]

What?

[Tex McCrary]

Yeah, I said that Kira looks as pretty as a picture.

[Jinx Falkenberg]

Nice frame, too.

[Tex McCrary]

Oh, Danny, Danny, look at Tex I only said that Kira looked as pretty as a picture. And you know what happened?

[Danny Seymour]

Oh, I'd put her in my living room anytime.

[Tex McCrary]

Oh, fine. Both of them. Kira, you've bewitched both of them.

[Kira Petrovskaya]

Oh, they're only fooling with you, Jinx.

[Jinx Falkenberg]

Sure, Jinx. You know, you're still my number one babushka. And Danny still has his wife, too.

[Danny Seymour]

Yeah, I love my wife, but, oh, you, Kira.

[Tex McCrary]

Well, I can understand it, Kira. You've got everything it takes to be beautiful, including the smile. And I have a slight suspicion that is what Danny was driving at. He just loves to talk about an Ipana smile.

[Kira Petrovskaya]

An Ipana smile?

[Danny Seymour]

In this country, it's the smile of beauty, Kira. And if you don't mind the tip, use I panna and let it guard that beautiful smile of yours. It's really a wonderful toothpaste.

[Jinx Falkenberg]

And maybe that's why dentists themselves prefer Ipana for their own personal use. Two to one over any other toothpaste or tooth powder, according to a nationwide survey.

[Danny Seymour]

So, friends, why don't you try I Panna yourself and see why it's so popular with dentists? See how I panna can help keep the loveliness in your own smile? Brush your teeth regularly with Ipana, and then with a fingertip, gently massage the gums along the line where they meet the teeth. This gum line is important because we all need firm, healthy gums as well as bright teeth to keep our smiles lovely. So between regular visits to the dentist, help guard your smile this special way. Get Ipana for your smile of beauty.

[Jinx Falkenberg]

Kira, we're back with you again. You know, I don't suppose you talk about things like I found on Russian radio, do you?

[Kira Petrovskaya]

No. In Russia, there's only one brand of everything and never enough of anything, so it's no need to advertise.

[Tex McCrary]

Well, how about things from America, Kira? Movies, for instance. Do the Russians like American movies?

[Kira Petrovskaya]

Oh, yes, very much. I sang a song in several. At several concerts from one of your American movies. You know, it's Rita Havert.

[Tex McCrary]

Who?

[Kira Petrovskaya]

Rita Haverta.

[Tex McCrary]

Oh, Rita Hayworth.

[Kira Petrovskaya]

Well, let's say Rita Havert.

[Nancy Walker]

Right.

[Tex McCrary]

Oh, I'm sorry.

[Jinx Falkenberg]

Go.

[Nancy Walker]

Yes.

[Tex McCrary]

Rita Hayworth.

[Kira Petrovskaya]

Well, but, you see, I couldn't sing it as she did because I couldn't do the movements like Rita Hayward's. You know, in Russia, sex is not permitted on the stage.

[Jinx Falkenberg]

I see what you. I see what you mean. But, Kira, we've made you sing an American song tonight. A sad one.

[Jack Kramer]

How about.

[Jinx Falkenberg]

How about a Russian song? A gay one. There Are gay songs. I remember when we were based for a while in the Ukraine, at Poltava during the war. Every night the Russians used to serenade us. And many of the songs I remember were full of fun.

[Kira Petrovskaya]

Oh, yes, there's much love to it now.

[Nancy Walker]

So I wish they'd give me happy songs and shows. I'm always being cast wrong. That's my trouble. Producers don't understand my type.

[Jinx Falkenberg]

Ms. Cast.

[Jack Kramer]

Hmm.

[Jinx Falkenberg]

And barefoot boy with cheek. Now, Nancy, you were a campus communist.

[Nancy Walker]

That's right. Yet a samovar by name.

[Tex McCrary]

And what happens to you in the next show, Nancy Walker?

[Nancy Walker]

Well, in this next one for George Abbott ii, I will dance ballet. I'm a rich gal like Dora Stuke with doe, but no husband yet. The ballet is my love, and I am the sponsor, so I dance.

[Jinx Falkenberg]

Well, you do the dancing. But maybe you need a singer, Kira. They ought to be a part for you and Nancy's new show.

[Kira Petrovskaya]

Oh, do you think so? Well, but my American husband is very particular about the part I take in a play.

[Nancy Walker]

Why?

[Tex McCrary]

What's the matter, Kira?

[Kira Petrovskaya]

Well, you see, he says I can only be in a play where nobody kisses me.

[Nancy Walker]

Comrade, this is outrageous. I will organize a picket.

[Jinx Falkenberg]

Nancy, I think you should be very careful about picketing men. You should do nothing to antagonize the opposite sex.

[Nancy Walker]

Oh, don't worry about me. I've got my campaign all figured out. I got myself a map. A man map. All the territory marked out where there are men to spare. And there's nothing around New York, I might add.

[Tex McCrary]

Well, Nancy, wait a minute. You said a man map. What do you mean?

[Nancy Walker]

Well, consider the situation in the Empire State, New York. There are a hundred men. For every 93. I'm a. Well, swell. There are a hundred women, which makes it worse. For every 93 males, and that's not good. Yes, whereas in the state of Nevada. Nevada?

[Jinx Falkenberg]

Yes.

[Tex McCrary]

How about Nevada?

[Nancy Walker]

Well, in Nevada, there are 200 men for every 100 women. Maybe they only have 300 people out there. But the boys outnumber the girls two to one. And that's the place for girl to meet boy. Nevada. Oh, is that for me? Gary, you should have had a look at Nevada before you settle down.

[Kira Petrovskaya]

Oh, Nancy, you must understand. They are very happy. My husband and I. And I have found a play in which everything is fine. You see, I play the part of a girl who is very sick. And in the last scene, my lover bends low and kisses me.

[Jinx Falkenberg]

But, Chiara, how about your husband? How about his rule? You can be in a Play. But no kissing.

[Kira Petrovskaya]

Well, you see, in the play, I am kissed, but I die before I can return the kiss. So everything is fine. Okay?

[Nancy Walker]

As you say.

[Jinx Falkenberg]

Oh, a happy ending.

[Nancy Walker]

I don't like it. I still don't like it. But what am I doing? Worrying about your man. Before we leave tonight, I'd like to work in a serenade for my man, that Kramer.

[Danny Seymour]

Who?

[Jinx Falkenberg]

Me? Jinx. You better explain.

[Tex McCrary]

Oh, yes, Nancy, I don't think it would be right to upset Jack Kramer this week. You see, he's really concentrating on Forest Hills and he's training hard for the nationals.

[Nancy Walker]

You take me for a fool, Jenks? I know what a man needs from a woman in time of crisis. Inspiration. Let him know you're interested in what he's doing down at the office. Serenade him with a fight song.

[Jinx Falkenberg]

A fight song, Nancy?

[Nancy Walker]

Sure, a fight song. Something that'll make him know I'm right out there with him, rooting, singing all for him. Buckle down Jack Kramer, Buckle down. You can win Jack Kramer if you knuckle down. If you break their necks, if you

make them wreck, you can break the hex.

So buckle down. Make em yell Jack Kramer, make em yell. You can win Jack Kramer if you make him yell. If you don't give him take it

on the chin, you are bound to

[Danny Seymour]

win if you will only knuckle down.

[Nancy Walker]

If you fight, you'll chuckle at defeat. If you fight, your luck will not retreat. Knuckle down, Jack Kramer. Knuckle down. You can win that title if you knuckle down. If you mow em down.

If you go to town, you can

wear the crown if you will only buckle down.

[Tex McCrary]

Well, good luck, Nancy Walker. And good luck. And thank you, Jack Kramer. We're really knuckling down for you.

[Jinx Falkenberg]

And good luck to you on Broadway. Kira Petrovskaya.

[Kira Petrovskaya]

And Nancy, let me tell you, learn a lesson from Annie Oakley, you'll never get a feller with a gun.

[Jinx Falkenberg]

Not even in Nevada. And not so long until next Wednesday night when our guest will be the singing star of the hit parade of 1947, Joan Edwards.

[Tex McCrary]

And the greatest woman in baseball, Mrs. Lou Gehrig. A double hit parade.

[Kira Petrovskaya]

So long.

[Tex McCrary]

And don't forget Ipenna.

[Danny Seymour]

Sure, pal. I know what you say. But what does your public say? You say shaving is too uncomfortable.

[Jinx Falkenberg]

But your public.

[Danny Seymour]

It says you've got to keep your face smooth and clean shaven, regardless. What's the answer? Ingram. Of course. Ingram. Shaving cream. You see that Rich Ingram Lather Helps condition your face for the razor. And that means close shaves and cool, soothing comfort. Remember, comfort means coolness. Coolness means Ingram. I N G R A M Ingram the cooler shaving cream. Next time get Ingram. Until next Wednesday then. This is Dan Seymour reminding you that Tex and Jinx are brought to you by Bristol Myers, who also presents Mr. District Attorney, which follows immediately over most of these stations. This is NBC, the national broadcasting company.

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