Highest Self Podcast® Episode 594: "Tantra Expert Nadine Lee: Go From Princess to Queen Energy With This"
Date: March 18, 2025
Host: Sahara Rose
Guest: Nadine Lee

Episode Overview

This episode dives deep into the archetypal journey of the feminine – moving from "princess" to "queen" (and even "priestess") energy. Sahara and Tantra teacher Nadine Lee discuss healing childhood wounds, dropping societal fantasies, embodying sovereignty, and the nuanced dynamics of relationships, love, and polarity. The conversation clarifies contemporary misconceptions about feminine power and highlights the importance of becoming one's own sovereign woman while seeking soulful partnership.

Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Defining the Princess, Queen, and Priestess Archetypes

• Princess energy: Rooted in the inner child, shaped by fairy-tale narratives and parental relationships; can be naive, delusional, and longing for a savior (05:51, 13:21).
• Queen energy: Embodied maturity, discernment, and sovereignty; makes conscious choices, integrates the inner child, and takes responsibility for love and boundaries (21:55).
• Priestess energy: Spiritual evolution beyond the queen, attuned to deeper oracular/feminine wisdom and purpose.

"I feel princess archetype… is used as a term for the little girl, you know, like our inner child. The princess, she has to go through her trials and tribulations in order to become the queen."
—Nadine (05:51)

2. How Childhood Wounds Shape Adult Relationships

• Relationships to father = sense of safety, direction, material provision.
• Relationships to mother = emotional nourishment, love patterns.
• Unresolved childhood wounds leave the “princess” running the adult show (05:51–08:17).

"If we don’t look at these things from our little girl years… they pretty much dictate how we operate as an adult… She’s not running the show… You’re not driving the seat of this car anymore."
—Nadine (05:51)

3. Princess Fantasies vs. Queen Discernment

• Media and Disney influence on our love expectations results in longing for the "one" and anxiety when single (10:30–13:21).
• Princess seeks to have the fairytale; queen now discerns and is patient, understanding that maturity is needed to be with a ‘king’ (16:41).

"A princess can only be with a prince because a king is like, I don’t want to save you, I can’t save you. If he’s truly in his king, he can only be with the queen."
—Sahara (16:41)

• The temptation to mislabel controlling or manipulative behavior (like “sprinkle sprinkle” TikTok personas) as ‘dark feminine’ is addressed and debunked (17:39, 21:33).

"That is not dark feminine energy… Kalima is turning in her grave right now. Like, that is not what it’s about."
—Sahara (00:59)

4. Polarity in Relationships and Financial Sovereignty

• True masculine energy = providing (financial, protective, grounded).
• True feminine energy = nurturing, multiplying, enhancing.
• Both men and women are now called to integrate both emotional capacity and abundance due to shifting societal economics (21:55–25:07).

"I think a lot of women… had a father who was a provider financially but he wasn't there physically and emotionally. So I can receive financial providership from men. But I didn't think that you could have both."
—Nadine (19:10)

• Living one’s dharma brings sovereignty—relating from abundance, not need (25:07).

5. Navigating Timelines, Desires, and Honesty

• The importance of direct communication about desires (e.g., motherhood, timelines, commitment)—embracing the risk of losing someone for the truth (26:06–29:44).
• Understanding and honoring dharmas for different life stages and relationships. Accepting some relationships are for karma and growth, preparing for the next level (32:55).

"We have to actually risk the truth equaling losing this person… having boundaries around your internal timeline."
—Nadine (26:06)

6. Letting Go of Spiritual Projections

• Romanticizing men "deep in spirituality" often leads to unhealthy power dynamics; true compatibility is about integrity, loyalty, and shared values, not yoga classes or spiritual credentials (35:21–39:07).
• Emphasis on women owning their spiritual domain and allowing their partner to hold masculine grounding.

"Let yourself have that domain. Let yourself be the oracle in the relationship."
—Sahara (42:18)

"I'm like, I’ll do the divination and share the insight, and you can take action on it."
—Sahara (42:45)

7. Polarity, Integration, and Growing Up in Love

• Mature relationship = both partners have access to inner masculine and feminine, but lead in their core energy (44:46).
• Queens lead in love through vulnerability, feminine expression, and inspiration, not overt control (47:00–49:01).

"As the feminine, we have to make peace with the fact that we are the leaders in love… we are spiritually assigned to create the relationship that we want."
—Sahara (47:00)

8. Final Insights on Maintaining Mystery and Maturity

• Don’t rush into “wife” or “husband” roles (e.g., moving in too quickly); preserve mystery and devotion for committed partnership (50:05–51:09).
• Recognize when princess programming is driving choices and call yourself up to queen energy.

"The princess wants to rush into that, whereas I feel like the queen is like, I want to give you that devotion and the wifey treatment, but not until I’m actually a wife."
—Nadine (51:09)

Notable Quotes & Moments

• On integration:
  "You're not looking for daddy anymore. You've integrated your own inner daddy."
  —Nadine (44:46)

• On expectations:
  "It’s a heartbreaking thing that we all have to wake up from, but it actually opens our hearts to true love."
  —Sahara (00:59)

• On conscious community blind spots:
  "We have this distortion that just because a guy is conscious... that he's meant to be this divine masculine. That's also just a princess, rose-tinted glasses distortion."
  —Nadine (35:21)

Timed Segment Highlights

| Timestamp | Segment | |---------------|------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------| | 05:06 | Nadine’s introduction; reflecting on shared spiritual journeys | | 05:51 | Princess archetype’s origins: childhood, parents, and integration | | 13:21 | Princess delusion vs. Queen discernment in love and partners | | 16:41 | Explanation of kings, queens, princes in relationship dynamics | | 19:10 | Financial providership: patterns and healing around masculine provision | | 21:55 | Polarity, abundance, and integrating masculine/feminine for modern relationships | | 26:06 | Communicating authentic desires and internal boundaries | | 32:55 | Perspective on relationship dharma and karmic clearing for deeper partnership | | 35:21 | Dismantling spiritual projections; what makes a true partner | | 39:07 | Recognizing the feminine as inherently spiritually attuned; authentic relating | | 44:46 | Embracing polarity: integrating masculine and feminine within | | 47:00 | Leading in love as the feminine; feminine leadership in long-term relationships | | 50:05 | Maintaining mystery, not overgiving too soon; queenly boundaries in devotion |

Tone & Language

The conversation is open, candid, nurturing, playful (with plenty of laughter and real-life examples), but also assertive in calling out limiting paradigms and encouraging self-responsibility.

Summary Takeaway

This rich dialogue offers listeners a map for their own journey from "princess" to "queen": integrating wounds, dropping unrealistic narratives, embodying true feminine sovereignty, and choosing conscious, truthful love over fantasy. Sahara and Nadine invite us to replace longing and manipulation with grounded discernment, authentic communication, and self-guided spiritual growth—showing that real love and sovereignty begins with ourselves.

Stay tuned for Part Two, where the conversation continues into living arrangements and what makes love last!