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Giannis Pappas
We got a great episode for you today with the great Tim Dillon there from the beginning to the end. We talk about Hollywood, we talk about the Hamptons versus Beverly Hills, and we want to tell you an important thing about some bonus content.
Chris Distefano
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Giannis Pappas
Timmy. Dad.
Chris Distefano
What's up, everybody? Welcome to another episode of History Hyenas. Today we got a Goodie. I'm Chris DiStefano with me as always, Yanni P. We got a goodie. It's about the Hamptons versus Beverly Hills. And we had to bring in the expert, our good friend of the show, Mr. Tim Dillon.
Giannis Pappas
And I'll say he will be here for the entire episode.
Chris Distefano
Yes.
Giannis Pappas
It's not just Tim Dillon at the end. It's Tim Dillon from the beginning to the end.
Tim Dillon
That's exactly right. Thank you very much to have me in here for this battle of the white Jews versus the Aladdin Jews. Yes.
Chris Distefano
That's what it is.
Tim Dillon
That's what it really is.
Giannis Pappas
So it's really Semitic versus European Jews.
Tim Dillon
It's Sephardic Jews. The Aladdin types. The one that looks like Muslims. So you get confused.
Chris Distefano
Well, I call them the Puerto Rican Jews.
Giannis Pappas
That's correct.
Chris Distefano
Because they're hot.
Tim Dillon
Yeah. They're Persian. So when you talk about the Israel thing, you don't know what to say because they look fully Muslim, but they're not.
Giannis Pappas
So you're saying the Sephardic ones in Beverly Hills. Beverly Hills. Those are more of the boots on the ground Mossad. And then you got the Ashkenazkenazis are more data Massad.
Tim Dillon
They're like, they're super pale, and then they put their sunscreen on their kids in clumps. So it's weird. I don't know why they don't rub it in their face.
Giannis Pappas
Yeah.
Chris Distefano
So like an Ashkanaz face is like an Ari Shafir. It's got a.
Tim Dillon
He's an ash face, kind of weirdly tan and Sephardic. He, like, splits the difference.
Giannis Pappas
I think his parents were like an anti Semitic Nazi character.
Chris Distefano
Got it.
Tim Dillon
Yeah. He's. He's the happy merchant meme.
Giannis Pappas
Yeah.
Chris Distefano
Now which one. If you could only pick one right now, which one would you.
Tim Dillon
Would you choose to live a Persian? Because they're loud. They, you know, they live out loud. They drive really crazy cars. Everything's bright colors I find that interesting. It's fun. It feels like you've gone on vacation, but you haven't.
Chris Distefano
Right.
Tim Dillon
And I would. I would choose them. Even though people do loathe them and find their behavior grotesque, I like it, which is why I wear these sunglasses.
Giannis Pappas
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Tim Dillon
I really believe that they figured it out. Being rich is about wearing silly things and being loud and the dignity of trying to be like an understated WASPy person is a complete waste of your life. You should be gross and rub what you have in other people's faces and make them feel bad. And that's what I like about the Persian Jews versus the Ashkenazis, who are a little bit more wasp. Like, they're a little bit more wasp. Like.
Chris Distefano
Right, got it.
Tim Dillon
So I'm on a real run. Candace Owens and now this podcast.
Giannis Pappas
Yeah, yeah, I'm on a real run this week.
Tim Dillon
I better. I better. Next week I'm gonna have Barry Weiss and Rabbi Schmuling.
Giannis Pappas
Yeah, the Jews have been in the cultural conversation very much recently.
Chris Distefano
They're back, baby.
Giannis Pappas
What does that mean? What does that mean? Why are we so focused on Israel?
Tim Dillon
Because they're killing people every day.
Chris Distefano
Yeah, they've got out of control. Like, like India, Pakistan is also doing numbers.
Tim Dillon
Have you ever tr. More numbers on TikTok than a video from Godzilla?
Giannis Pappas
No, we're.
Tim Dillon
Good luck.
Giannis Pappas
We're actually working on a. A new web series called War Footage. No, I think it's number one.
Tim Dillon
I may just put my dates at the end of one of these drone strikes.
Chris Distefano
Seriously? Why not?
Giannis Pappas
Yeah, it's doing numbers. Big, big numbers. Yeah, big.
Chris Distefano
Yeah, because we were looking yesterday, we were watching all the India, Pakistan stuff, and like, that's just a little blip in the news.
Tim Dillon
They're getting it going too.
Chris Distefano
They're getting it going.
Giannis Pappas
They're getting it going. Yeah, they're getting it going. They're getting into it. They're fighting over Kashmir.
Chris Distefano
Pakistan has already said, yeah, we have nukes and they're. They're for India only.
Giannis Pappas
Yeah.
Tim Dillon
So they're ready to go like that. Yeah, that sounds.
Giannis Pappas
You want to keep it localized.
Chris Distefano
They actually said, we don't have the capability to send this nuke any further than India. So we designed it for you.
Giannis Pappas
Yeah.
Tim Dillon
Wow.
Chris Distefano
They said so. So they basically told the western countries, you don't have to worry about this. We can't get to you.
Giannis Pappas
And all we can say about that is the two state solution over there looks like it works. Yeah, they're doing real good with that two state Solution.
Chris Distefano
Yeah, that doesn't work. And what can you do, man? I mean, what can you do?
Giannis Pappas
So you're saying they're the same people, just different religion.
Chris Distefano
Yeah. So. So you're saying in the beginning, you're saying if you have to only choose one, weather excluded, you would choose the Hamptons over Beverly Hills.
Tim Dillon
Well, the. The. The Beverly Hills in its current iteration only kind of became that after the fall of the Shah, when all these Iranians came to Los Angeles.
Giannis Pappas
And Persian. Persian, Persians, you never call them Iranian. They like to be called.
Chris Distefano
Is that a fact?
Tim Dillon
Is that true? Yeah.
Giannis Pappas
Oh, they love. It's got to be Persian.
Tim Dillon
Yeah, but they come from Iran.
Giannis Pappas
I know, but they hate that. They say. They correct you and they go, I'm Persian.
Chris Distefano
But what is Persia, though? Because it's Persia. More than just Iran. Is that what it is?
Giannis Pappas
They. It just is more for them. It's more. It has more cachet.
Tim Dillon
Okay.
Giannis Pappas
Like, I'm Persian. They always is.
Tim Dillon
Not real anymore.
Giannis Pappas
Exactly.
Tim Dillon
That's, like, funny.
Giannis Pappas
That's right.
Chris Distefano
I got to say, and I've been saying it from the beginning, you know, I've been saying this for years, but I love Persian women, to me, are actually. Because they look like Puerto Ricans without the problem.
Tim Dillon
The food. Food is great.
Chris Distefano
Yeah.
Tim Dillon
Like this. I love deli food here, which is, like, great. You get, you know, the deli, you get locks, you get bagels, you get latkes, you get all this. A Reuben sandwich. But, like, the Persian food in LA is really cool because it's like more Mediterranean, Middle Eastern type food. So it's just kind of different.
Chris Distefano
Right?
Tim Dillon
It's nice.
Chris Distefano
Get some hummus.
Tim Dillon
You get all that pita. Yeah, a little hummus. Little baba ganoush.
Chris Distefano
Yes.
Tim Dillon
And it's very close to Greek. You're all kind of the same. Now, I know you don't like it, but aren't you all kind of the same M O, n K e Y s a little bit. Right?
Chris Distefano
Yeah, but they're swarthy monkeys.
Tim Dillon
Right?
Giannis Pappas
Is the Sandra D's.
Chris Distefano
Yes.
Giannis Pappas
In our parlance, you are.
Tim Dillon
Yeah.
Giannis Pappas
But yeah, for us, they kind of kick the sand in our face.
Tim Dillon
We.
Giannis Pappas
They. So that. Yeah, we're not really part of.
Tim Dillon
I got you.
Giannis Pappas
They kick the sand because you guys.
Tim Dillon
In the Turks, it's no good.
Giannis Pappas
The Turkic people, yeah, they had a good run. Palestine was theirs for a while.
Chris Distefano
No.
Tim Dillon
Yeah.
Chris Distefano
Yeah. No, Greek people feel like they have it worse than black people in this country because their slavery was more recently by the Turks. Right. I've had to deal with that.
Tim Dillon
Right. And, you know, and my response to that has always been the same thing. It's mozzarella sticks, please.
Chris Distefano
Yeah.
Tim Dillon
Thank you so much. Yeah. And making a deluxe.
Giannis Pappas
Yeah.
Tim Dillon
You don't even have to ask.
Giannis Pappas
Yeah. I mean, the Iranians calling themselves Persians is like gre having pride about ancient Greece. It doesn't exist anymore.
Tim Dillon
So remember that Show Beverly Hills? 920? Interesting. You didn't see a person. Right. So it was. Now that was. You know, they kind of whitewashed it a bit because they. They were living there. But now it's really become the epicenter outside of Great Neck, Long island, of the biggest community of Persian Jews in. In outside of the country that shall not be named. Right. And. And that's a lot of the culture of Beverly Hills centers around that.
Chris Distefano
Right, right. So that's like.
Tim Dillon
They have names like, I don't know, Fahamian or whatever. Like names that are like, Persian.
Giannis Pappas
Right, right.
Chris Distefano
Yeah. And they. And they. When I drove through Beverly Hills with you once, you had a nice observation where you said, a lot of people will try to, you know, especially with the economy where it is, they'll try to hide the wealth. The Persians will not. They'll put the mansion right there. Big light. Look at me.
Tim Dillon
There's something about the immigrant experience of coming to another country and dominating.
Chris Distefano
Right.
Tim Dillon
And showing that. Whereas I think people that grew up in America or their families been here for generations and generations try to conceal a little bit of their wealth. Whereas I think if you showed up here a few generations ago and you're really killing it, as no Irish people are, you like the Persians, they show it. They came over with the rugs, they got the rug stores.
Chris Distefano
Yeah.
Tim Dillon
And. And they're doing very well. And some of them got into the. The television and film industry. They became agents, managers, and, you know, they work it in the industry to some extent. Production companies and, you know, studio and whatever.
Chris Distefano
Yeah.
Tim Dillon
But they also do a lot of. And I mean, you know, it sounds like a joke, but, like, it's the best rugs in the world.
Chris Distefano
Yeah.
Tim Dillon
That. That section in LA are the best rugs you'll ever find. They ship them all over the country. They're in Aspen, they're in New York. They're everywhere. They ship these crazy rugs all over the country. They do. They do a ton of business with that. Fabrics, clothing, things like that, all of that.
Chris Distefano
And they have. They have infinity money. My friend, the security guard at one of the side jobs he does is he. He guards a painting In a Persian person's house that's never there. He's there maybe two weeks a year. It's a townhouse. Two townhouses combined into one in midtown. And he said he's been all his job is he stands in front of this one painting and there's three or four of the security guards that stand in front of those. And he said to the boss, who's also Persian, said, you know, like, it's crazy, like how much money you guys spend. Like you could just have one guy do it. And he said the guy's response was just stand in front of the painting and keep getting paid. Right. They don't care about, right. Oh, you're wasting money. Because then my friend's trying to bring up, oh, but like there's a. You know, it's crazy how there's like a hunger crisis in this country and then there's this money and they're like, don't say anything again. Just stand in front of the painting and you keep getting paid.
Tim Dillon
What's fun about Beverly Hills is that it is silly, right? And, and it's all the houses look like cheesecake factories. Some of them are beautiful, Spanish style, whatever. But a lot of them are very over the top gaudy, right? Opulent little mini fortresses and they line these streets. And the Beverly flats is this area with the streets in line with pond.
Giannis Pappas
That's the really fancy part of Beverly Hills.
Tim Dillon
Well, then there's the hills, which are the compounds which you can't really see. But then the flats are like houses anywhere from 10 to 30 million dollars. They're just line regular streets and they're smack dab in the middle of L. A. It's some of the most expensive real estate in the world. And then you can literally walk from that area into Beverly Hills, which, which is what I love about it because it gives you the feeling like you're in New York. Because Beverly Hills is a mini city, right? So it has its own police force. They have a two minute response time. They're there. They can, they will show up. LAPD has a 45 minute response time if they come.
Chris Distefano
Right.
Tim Dillon
Beverly Hills has its own city council that does not necessarily go along with the city council of Los Angeles. There was, for example, Beverly Hills when there was a mask and a vax mandate to get into restaurants. They did not have it in Beverly Hills.
Chris Distefano
So in other words, Beverly Hills is in the geographical city of la, but it's not really a part of LA from the, from the government point of view. They have Their own little ecosystem.
Tim Dillon
Part of the LA County.
Giannis Pappas
It's like the Vatican.
Tim Dillon
That's right.
Chris Distefano
In a way. Yeah.
Tim Dillon
It's part of the LA County.
Chris Distefano
Jesse, scroll down.
Giannis Pappas
Do you think West Hollywood knows that it's just a favela of Beverly Hills?
Chris Distefano
Yeah.
Giannis Pappas
Beverly Hills probably looks at West Hollywood like a favela, I think.
Tim Dillon
I think West Hollywood is where you would. Would go if. To just get your dick sucked.
Chris Distefano
Yeah, that's what it is.
Giannis Pappas
Right.
Chris Distefano
Which a lot of these probably shots do. They go out a little bit, go down a little sunset and they just get a little dick suck, Come right back.
Tim Dillon
It's actually not gay. Yeah, exactly.
Chris Distefano
No, it's called.
Tim Dillon
It's called.
Chris Distefano
It's called owning a company.
Tim Dillon
It's called having a friend. Yeah, it's what it is.
Chris Distefano
So the origins. Beverly Hills started as ranchland. 1800s, Lima bean farmers owned by Mexican ranchers and American settlers. And then there was a water drought. Then the residential community called Beverly Hills came. Now, the early fame of this. This is interesting. That Beverly Hills Hotel.
Tim Dillon
It's the first building.
Chris Distefano
First building ever there. Charlie chaplin lived there. 1920s stars. Douglas Fairbanks, Mary Pickford, I've never heard of. Have you ever heard of these people? I've only ever heard of Charlie Chaplin.
Tim Dillon
I've heard of Chaplin. I've heard of Fairbanks. I haven't heard of Pickford.
Chris Distefano
Right. It is interesting how, like, people are just major celebrities and then 100 years go by and that's it. Yeah.
Giannis Pappas
Now, now it's for little movie, right? Yeah.
Chris Distefano
Little mom.
Tim Dillon
Yeah.
Chris Distefano
By the way, Tim Dillon and I are big fans.
Tim Dillon
I love.
Giannis Pappas
Yeah, yeah.
Chris Distefano
I love the.
Tim Dillon
We grew up.
Chris Distefano
Yeah.
Giannis Pappas
Yeah.
Chris Distefano
The owner of this company was like, hey, you know, a murderer from jail called me to vouch for.
Tim Dillon
We share. We share my wife, Tracy Carnaza.
Chris Distefano
Yeah.
Tim Dillon
As well. Yeah, that's good. In a restaurant. When me, Tracy, Little Mo walk to a restaurant, they actually evict all the other people.
Chris Distefano
Yeah.
Tim Dillon
And they say, like calling these chefs from the home.
Chris Distefano
Yeah. He goes, I love how the owner of this company, who's overweight man, goes, oh, now I got to worry about a guy trying to kill me who's one of Little Most friends. I said, you should worry about Salami trying to kill you.
Tim Dillon
Right.
Chris Distefano
Not little. Not the guy who's in prison.
Tim Dillon
Charcuterie board.
Chris Distefano
Yes.
Tim Dillon
Coming for you.
Giannis Pappas
Yes.
Chris Distefano
So Beverly Hills, what I always like a city with a mafia connection. Bugsy Siegel, the infamous Jewish mobster. What people have to understand is back in the day, everyone talks about romanticized The Italian mafia, the Jewish mafia, very, very, very powerful. Would kill people.
Tim Dillon
Right.
Chris Distefano
Where the same Bugsy Siegel was like a John Gotti.
Tim Dillon
Right.
Chris Distefano
Same thing. And these were Beverly Hills. So if you want Mafia, you think, oh, but the Hamptons are in New York. No more Mafia here in Beverly Hills.
Tim Dillon
Yeah, well, back in the day you had, they were really running more of the entertainment business. Right. So you, I mean, there were, if, if they got behind somebody and they wanted them in, in a film.
Chris Distefano
Right.
Tim Dillon
You, you. It was like they're going to break someone's legs until that person's in the film.
Chris Distefano
That's just how it was.
Tim Dillon
That's just how it was.
Chris Distefano
Yeah. So back then, you think nepotism and connections was even more powerful in Hollywood?
Tim Dillon
Yeah, it was a huge deal. So, I mean, you had like this alliance between mobsters, gangsters, the heads of studios, you know, talent agencies, and that's how that whole business formed.
Chris Distefano
Yeah. Now it's just, you know, can I, can you contact Mr. Beast or not? Right. If Mr. Beast reads your DMs.
Tim Dillon
Now it's like, it's like one of those things where it's just a big store, Right. It's like a big Walmart and everybody's just wandering around. And then you pick something up. You know, you pick up, you go, biracial 24, mother died, they put it back. You just walked down. Blonde, big tits, likes Jesus, that might be in this year. And you throw it in the thing.
Giannis Pappas
Yeah.
Tim Dillon
You know, you don't know. You don't know. You don't know what. It's whatever works.
Chris Distefano
It's all crap.
Tim Dillon
Shoot. It's a big store.
Giannis Pappas
Yeah, yeah.
Chris Distefano
It's a very, very, very good way to say it. And, and yeah, so Beverly Hills, you know, they, they had a. In 1985, the Playmate Mansion murder, which I didn't know anything about this. Dorothy Stratton's tragic death shocked Beverly Hills. She was murdered by her ex husband in west la. But her ties to Beverly Hills through Hugh Hefner's parties exposed the dark side of the glamorous life. So Hugh Hefner, by the way, was doing the original P. Diddy White parties years before, for sure. And we're going to get to the Diddy White parties because that's big in the Hamptons. If you want that, you go to the Hamptons.
Tim Dillon
Yeah, right.
Chris Distefano
But a 1980s Hugh Hefner, I would argue those are the parties that we probably all would have loved to be.
Giannis Pappas
Well, it took decades for the law to catch up. To climb those hills. It's very hard for the police to get up those hills.
Tim Dillon
Yeah. When they got up there, they got laid.
Giannis Pappas
Yeah.
Chris Distefano
Crime officer, you want to investors.
Tim Dillon
Crime.
Chris Distefano
You want to get your dick sucked? Come on.
Tim Dillon
Well, that's the thing. It's like sexual currency in that town. The town was run for many years. I don't know. I. I don't even know what runs it now, to be quite honest. I think it's a vassal state of China.
Chris Distefano
Right.
Tim Dillon
From the real estate perspective, it's just, you know, 50 to 70% of people buying these big homes are Chinese people. But it was run as sexual currency for a very long time. So directors and studio heads and people like that wanted to have sex with starlets and. And you know, and then those people ended up getting super famous.
Giannis Pappas
Yeah.
Chris Distefano
And it's just what it is. Like Beverly Hills water shortage drama. Everyone else, the California was being set on fire, but billionaires were secretly watering their lawns at night. And that's just fine.
Tim Dillon
That's just what.
Chris Distefano
That's just what it is. People complain about that, but it's like, what do you want?
Tim Dillon
I thought this was capitalism, Power, money, are. Are there for a reason. And, you know, people, you, you, you want to get to that point to water your lawn. And by the way, if all they're doing is watering their lawn. Yes. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Giannis Pappas
That's all. Yeah. I mean, if, if they're.
Tim Dillon
Newton's got a nice lawn.
Giannis Pappas
Yeah. He's got a great.
Tim Dillon
Never been, not against going.
Chris Distefano
Right.
Giannis Pappas
But if that's your only complaint, that's good.
Tim Dillon
That's your.
Giannis Pappas
Yeah.
Chris Distefano
So now, so a guy like Putin comes to the United States, he has a chance be to, to go to the Hamptons full time or Beverly Hills. They're going to Beverly Hills.
Tim Dillon
No, no. Vladimir Putin has no interest in California. I think, I think he likes the East Coast. I think he.
Giannis Pappas
He's more of an east coast guy.
Tim Dillon
The fun of his life was fighting the CIA and the kgb. You saw it in the Tucker Carlson interview. He cracks a slight smile. He goes, you know, he goes, there are enemies. Of course, like, that was when it was fun. It's not really fun in the castle, all alone, running Russia, thinking about, we got to kill this one, we got to do this. And all these oligarch Troys fighting and you have to go. Dimitri, can Oleg have a little bit of this?
Chris Distefano
Right?
Tim Dillon
And he's mediating all these fights he remembers as a young man. And he cracks a little smile when he's talking to Tucker. And he goes, you know, you wanted to get into the CIA, but they didn't let you in. And he's kind of teasing Tucker a little bit. He goes, you know, he goes, you know, we. We know them, of course. He goes, they were our enemies. But so I think Vladimir put.
Giannis Pappas
He gives him respect.
Tim Dillon
Yeah. I mean, it's like. Well, what's. It's. It's two great tennis players. Yeah. You know?
Chris Distefano
Yeah.
Tim Dillon
So I think he's very much the East Coast. He'd be very fascinated by Yale and Harvard, all these places where all the fun happened. You know, it'd be nice for him to see L. A, But I. I don't think that's where his heart is.
Chris Distefano
Doesn't care.
Giannis Pappas
He's like a comic, an arena comic who's reminiscent about the road. Yeah.
Tim Dillon
It was fun when we did the funny bones. Yeah.
Giannis Pappas
That's what it was, really fun.
Tim Dillon
He had that wacky opener we poisoned.
Giannis Pappas
Yeah, yeah, yeah. So he kind of misses those good old days a little bit.
Tim Dillon
He does.
Chris Distefano
Well, I gotta be honest with you, The Hamptons, because now we'll get into the Hamptons. The Hamptons, the East coast version of Beverly Hills. This is where my speed again. Original 13 colonies were all New Yorkers in here. I like the Hamptons. Started out as a farming, fishing village, English colonist. When I hear English colonists, I'm in. I do feel I'm in a past life was more of an English colonist.
Giannis Pappas
Right.
Chris Distefano
Than anything.
Giannis Pappas
I want to ask a straight question. Hamptons, Beverly Hills. Which one. Is it easier to get away with having sex with an underage person who dies of a drug overdose? Which one's going to hide? Both. Equally.
Tim Dillon
Both.
Chris Distefano
Right.
Giannis Pappas
Equally. You know, you don't think the Hamptons more. Because it's more of a seasonal retreat.
Tim Dillon
That's a good point. Yeah. Think about that.
Giannis Pappas
Think about that.
Tim Dillon
It is. It is.
Giannis Pappas
I think when the winter comes, everyone just ignores it.
Tim Dillon
Yeah.
Giannis Pappas
Yeah.
Chris Distefano
That's difference.
Giannis Pappas
That's the difference, I think.
Tim Dillon
I think it really. It really depends on. On. On who happens to do it.
Giannis Pappas
Right.
Tim Dillon
You know, I mean, there's a lot, like. There's a lot of guys in the Hamptons that were very good friends with Jeffrey Epstein, like best friends with Jeffrey.
Giannis Pappas
Epstein that they called him Jeffrey.
Tim Dillon
They didn't call him Jeffrey Epstein. They were good friends, and they were at those parties and stuff, and they're still at. In their homes in the Hamptons and will not be going.
Chris Distefano
You know what I was telling Giannis yesterday? I had an Indian cab Driver. Like a guy from India who drove me the other day and we were talking and he was telling me about how he cheats on his wife and all that. It was very interesting. But then one thing he said, he goes, you know what, you guys, difference is. The main difference between India and the United States is. Is you. Your rich people are scared of going to jail. In India, if you have money, you don't go to jail. You could do anything. You do not go to prison. Prison is for poor people. He was like, in the United States, you're really, really wealthy. He was like, if Harvey Weinstein was alive in India, he would never go to jail. He would just pay it off. Now, I'm not saying good or bad, but it is just what it is.
Giannis Pappas
That's a very, very recent phenomena, though.
Chris Distefano
Yeah, yeah.
Giannis Pappas
It didn't used to, really.
Chris Distefano
So that. That's why I was bringing that up to say, you think a lot. You still think there's a way for the real Hamptons elite to escape prison?
Tim Dillon
Oh, most people escape prison. The response to that guy is that we choose one person to go down.
Chris Distefano
Got it.
Tim Dillon
The Sacklers are bad. They did the oxycontin. Okay, what about all the other. No, no, no, it's the Sacklers. It's Harvey Weinstein. Okay. But wasn't he part of his sister? It's Jeffrey Epstein. So we always choose one person.
Chris Distefano
It's like a sacrifice so we can all live.
Tim Dillon
Yeah. And I think we're. The ruling class is okay with that.
Chris Distefano
Right.
Tim Dillon
They're like, Derek.
Giannis Pappas
Like Derek Chauvin.
Tim Dillon
Yeah.
Chris Distefano
He was chosen.
Giannis Pappas
He was.
Chris Distefano
Well, I mean. But he put his neck off.
Giannis Pappas
No, he did, but he's part of a bigger system where that was happening a lot. And so you made a big deal out of one.
Tim Dillon
He made a big deal out of one guy. I think that's what happen. And I think that people are okay with that because it's a lotto system, and people tend to think that it won't be them.
Chris Distefano
Right, got it. Yeah.
Giannis Pappas
The people who are doing the choosing are those. The understated.
Tim Dillon
I just think it becomes. It's a thing where it's like. It's the way I think about it. The way it's been explained to me is it's like a dam. So you have a dam, and then, you know, eventually a dam will break. Right, right. So Bill Clinton.
Giannis Pappas
And you don't want the water getting into your foil.
Tim Dillon
Right. Years and years and years. Bill Clinton's not being great with chicks. Right, right. He's he flagrant about it?
Giannis Pappas
Right.
Tim Dillon
He's running around, but then he's just getting ahead in the Oval Office from an inter. Like there's always this blatant thing where it's like, you know, Weinstein's in the, in the middle of me too. And it's just people are getting taken down left and right and he's the biggest fish at the, at the biggest company and he has the most power and he becomes the biggest target. Whereas it's like Epstein's protected for years and years and years underage, gets a massage, goes, you know, goes all know about bed.
Giannis Pappas
It's all know dieted in Florida.
Tim Dillon
Right.
Giannis Pappas
He got convicted in Florida.
Tim Dillon
But then eventually what happens is enough journalists start sniffing around, enough people start happening. The Internet connects all these different victims. And then it basically becomes this inevitability that something's going to happen. From that moment on, you kind of have to control how it happens. It's like a controlled demolition. So you move all these cases to the Southern District of New York where there's political power players that are playing ball because they want futures and politics. And you go, we're gonna do an Epstein or a Ghislaine Maxwell trial. But they ain't getting on the stand. Yeah, no, they're not getting on the stand. And we're only going to look at a few years and we're going to bring a few victims up and they're going to say certain things and then we're going to convict these people. But we're not going to have a tell all in the court. And it's not going to be this media frenzy of naming every billionaire and every world leader. We're not doing that. We're going to look at a very specific thing to convict them and then move it on. That's what all these cases go through, the Southern District of New York, because they are their political operatives at the Justice Department who will play ball.
Chris Distefano
Got what now? Virginia Guthrey. The, The. She just died of suicide. You believe it? I don't know if you discussed it already.
Giannis Pappas
She got hit by a car.
Tim Dillon
Yeah.
Chris Distefano
And then killed herself.
Giannis Pappas
Giving out. But then I think she was getting better. But then I think she offed herself.
Chris Distefano
She offed herself, but she had said six months ago to a year ago, if you ever find me committing suicide, just know I did. That's not true. Well, listen, but what do we think?
Giannis Pappas
It's funner to think that there was a. There's something behind it. So I'm going with that.
Tim Dillon
I don't know. Here's what I. Here's what I'll tell you. I don't know what she had left to say that she hadn't said.
Giannis Pappas
Right.
Chris Distefano
So there's no reason to kill her at this point.
Tim Dillon
Maybe there was. I don't know. That's the internal. They will kill people. Here's the thing. If you're having sex with people that are underage and your entire legacy, your family, you have to divest from your company. You're facing legal repercussions. Your children's children will read about this. The name of your family is black and forever. You will kill someone. Just what it is. It's what it is. You'll kill someone. Do I know if they killed her? No, but these people that are facing that type of downfall.
Chris Distefano
They'll kill you.
Tim Dillon
Would kill you. They strangle you themselves. No. Would they call a guy who knows a guy? Sure. Yeah. I mean, I don't think they would be above that if the other side of it was like, again, your children's children are going to read about that. You're a disgrace.
Giannis Pappas
Right, right, right, right, right, right.
Chris Distefano
Yeah. I mean, it's a good point.
Tim Dillon
Listen, what makes the Hamptons different from Beverly Hills is that the Hamptons, like you said, it's seasonal, it's the summer. It's predominantly finance. It's not entertainment.
Giannis Pappas
Yes.
Tim Dillon
It's. It's financial people that. From Manhattan, that in the 60s, it was guys like Jackson Pollock and artists and stuff like that. They're all gone. It's predominantly all finance people. It's not that many celebrities. There are a few celebrities for sure, but it's primarily the finance community. Hedge funds, private equity companies, things like that. And for a long time, hamptons was very WASPy. And you had things like the Southampton Bathing Corp. Where it's 800 of the wealthiest families. Pedigrees were largely white and Christian. No.
Chris Distefano
No Jews, no Catholics. They weren't allowed them in.
Tim Dillon
Yeah, like at actually. But no. But then they started Southampton Bath and Tennis for the Jews. And the Jews have kind of taken over. The wasps have fallen. The story of the Hamptons is actually the story of how the WASPs lost the country to Jews, Asians and Africans.
Giannis Pappas
There we go. That's the insight. That's the real story, what it is.
Chris Distefano
And we're going to tell that story right after this break.
Giannis Pappas
That's okay.
Tim Dillon
Now we're.
Chris Distefano
Yeah. So that's the store.
Giannis Pappas
That's what's going on. And you just have to either accept it and you have to have radical acceptance about it.
Tim Dillon
And here's how it happened.
Giannis Pappas
Yeah.
Tim Dillon
Let me just tell you. Exactly.
Chris Distefano
That's why you're here.
Giannis Pappas
Yeah.
Tim Dillon
The wasps became obsessed with clubs that were meaningless.
Giannis Pappas
Right.
Tim Dillon
They. They set up Montauk Club. Yeah, yeah. The Metropolitan Club in Manhattan. It's a baby corporate. They set up all these little clubs where they would play their. Wash Wash and all this stuff. They have the Polo cup and all this crap. And what happened. And they lived off the largesse of their families that made a lot of money in the traditional banking system and oil and things like that. And they lived off these great fortunes. And a lot of them had summer houses in Maine or Rhode island or the Hamptons or Nantucket, whatever. Then what happened was Jewish people, Chinese people, Arab people were more in the emerging industries. Things like hedge funds, private equity, the emerging market countries, they were more global in reach. They were doing business with people all over the world. And the WASP elite, because they became so obsessed with these co ops where they live with their friends and work with their friends and do business with their friends, their power and influence started to shrink and their fortunes started to shrink as well. And then you had. Now there's very few WASPs on Wall Street. It's predominantly Jewish people. It's Asian people. Look at countries like Dubai, Qatar, all these countries are coming up. They're hosting major events. You know, Dubai is making a big push to be the center of global wealth, whereas the wasps have retreated to a few places. Sea Island, Georgia, Maine. All these places, they fully retreated. And they've given up a lot of cultural capital because, again, it all got very incestuous. Many of them developed drinking problems. Interestingly enough, it became very incestuous and very, like, status obsessed. But status, they divorced it from money. So they'd say you to the billionaires. If the billionaires didn't go to the right schools and have the right friends, well, guess what? Those billionaires did. They made friends with the other billionaires. And now the wasps are done.
Giannis Pappas
Yeah. The. The real Achilles heel of the WASP is their innate disgust for all people who aren't WASPs.
Chris Distefano
Right.
Tim Dillon
That's what. Giannis took me to a restaurant once. Because Giannis lives in a WASPy area.
Giannis Pappas
Yeah.
Chris Distefano
Yes.
Tim Dillon
And he took me to a restaurant once, and it was a terrible restaurant.
Giannis Pappas
I was bad.
Tim Dillon
It was terrible. It was an insult.
Giannis Pappas
Yeah.
Tim Dillon
Yeah. And actually. But I. I was fun and I like him, and his family's great, and we had a great time. And then we. We thought.
Giannis Pappas
You felt insulted by. Yeah.
Tim Dillon
Just disgusting. But. But they had the. The. They had the pewter cops. It was very tavern. It's very white. And then I said, you need Jews and Italians in an area to complain. Because WASPs will never complain about the food. They don't want to look the waiter in the eye. So the wasps feel so above everything, they will not complain and talk to a working class person. Whereas an Italian or a Jew or someone like my mother was Irish but learned from Italians or Jews.
Giannis Pappas
Yeah.
Tim Dillon
Will. Will grab someone and go, hey, man, this sucks.
Chris Distefano
Right?
Tim Dillon
But wasps will never do that. They just eat very bland food in these country clubs as long as they don't have to be around anyone that's not like them.
Giannis Pappas
That was the big flaw of the Nazis, is that they need Jews. You need Jews to complain to keep the standards up. Yeah, that annoying.
Tim Dillon
That is a genocide with the flaws.
Chris Distefano
Yeah, a small part of it, but yes. Yes.
Giannis Pappas
Well, you know, I get it. One's worse than the other and you pick which one that is. Yeah, yeah.
Tim Dillon
That's the story. The Hamptons. When you walk by the Southampton Bathing Corp. You see this little group of wasps, and they're sitting there and they have their white linens and they sit there on the beach and they have their kids and whatever, but it's this tiny little stretch of beach and it's really all they have. Now, obviously they still have a lot of money, but they've been completely dominated and pushed out by other groups.
Chris Distefano
So do you. So.
Tim Dillon
And the character of America is a WASP character. Here's what I mean by that. Everyone in America becomes a wasp. I don't care what color you are, what creed or what race you are. The WASP character, the kind of stoic, you know, kind of Calvinist. No, it's not an Irish Italian. This is not a. This is not an Irish Italian country.
Chris Distefano
Don't forget this is a British puritanical society.
Tim Dillon
So that's not a country of screaming and wailing at funerals and crying and dancing and all that stuff. Like, yes, we have all of these. Right.
Chris Distefano
You go to Sunset park, you see that. But not overall.
Tim Dillon
But yeah, America's founded. It's a very Germanic, industrious spirit of like, private property. Probably keep to yourself. You do your own thing. And all those things, I think, are the framework for America, and that's why it's so successful. I think if you look at Ireland and Italy, two countries where Ireland, that can't build a building over three stories and Italy, everyone lives with their family until they're 45 years old. Yeah. And I mean Greece. I mean Greece. They cannot even manage the bus budget of the country. I mean, they can't.
Giannis Pappas
Right.
Tim Dillon
So those countries are not. And it's. Again, it's not racist. Not a racial thing. It's just the culture of all of those places. America is a very Germanic kind of industrious, Protestant culture of like, independence, autonomy, agency, doing things on your own, not having a massive church run everything. Not living in the history of the past, kind of embracing. Embracing the future. And that's the very wise quote. But. And they left us that. But they themselves as a group, are dying and dead.
Giannis Pappas
So why are we resisting the future with China? Why don't we just say, hey, let's go from a mutually exclusive victory to more of an Olympic system where there's a gold, there's a silver and a bronze.
Tim Dillon
Yeah.
Giannis Pappas
They're going to get the gold, we get the silver, and then Germany gets to.
Tim Dillon
It's not in our nature to get a silver. It's in our nature very much like a Tanya Harding.
Giannis Pappas
We are Tanya Harding.
Chris Distefano
Them.
Giannis Pappas
Yeah.
Tim Dillon
Hit them.
Chris Distefano
Yeah.
Tim Dillon
Hit the bat.
Giannis Pappas
Yeah.
Tim Dillon
We got to pay the fat guy to hit them with the bat. Yeah. At practice.
Giannis Pappas
Yes.
Chris Distefano
Yeah.
Tim Dillon
That's what we have to do. Right.
Giannis Pappas
We are Tanya Harding. We are trying to. Right now. We're trying to. Tanya Hardy.
Chris Distefano
Yeah. What's the guy's name who hit with the bat? He's got a wild name like Richard Gabagouli.
Tim Dillon
What's his name? He's a big fat guy.
Chris Distefano
Whoever that guy is, that's the new name of our country, that guy.
Giannis Pappas
Yeah. You can understand.
Chris Distefano
Google that. Who's the guy with the bat who hit Tanya Harding? That's. That should be the United States of that.
Giannis Pappas
That's what we are right now with these tariffs. These are. It's a Tanya Harding tariff.
Chris Distefano
Yeah. Here we go.
Giannis Pappas
You're not Galilee. Yeah. We're basically saying to China. We're basically saying in China, if you're going to win this, it's going to be with one knee.
Tim Dillon
Yeah, it's. And here's the other thing. Jeff Gillooly. You got to remember, Nancy Carrigan didn't even win.
Chris Distefano
And here's our country. Here's who we are in your nutshell. Jeff Gillooly hits Nancy Kerrigan. She loses the brawn, she loses the medal. Lose all things Tanya. Vilified, goes to prison short. Fifteen years later, she's getting standing ovation at the Oscars because they did a movie about her.
Tim Dillon
That's right.
Chris Distefano
So that's who we are as a country. That's who we should be and that's why we win.
Tim Dillon
And here's the deal. People understood it that those good moral celebrities understood. All this woman really did was hire a guy to attack her opponent and potentially give her a life changing injury that would force her out of the sport forever so that she could win. That's why those moral people who hate Donald Trump but love morality stood up and clapped for a woman who hired someone to try to basically paralyze the girl because they looked in the mirror.
Chris Distefano
They said, oh, that's me.
Tim Dillon
I would do that too.
Chris Distefano
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. By any means necessary.
Tim Dillon
We will win. Make no mistake, that room hates Donald Trump because they are not Donald Trump. The only reason why they hate Donald.
Giannis Pappas
Trump because he, he says it.
Tim Dillon
Yes. They don't say there's a lot of principled reasons to not like Donald Trump. The people in that room have absolutely not of.
Chris Distefano
Right, right.
Giannis Pappas
So do you think, do you think that the Beverly Hills and the Hamptons will be overrun by Chinese?
Tim Dillon
Yes. In California I have friends that are real estate agents. 50 to 70% of people that are showing the showings in these high end homes are Chinese people. Cities like New York and, and California, you know, in Los Angeles and even Miami and places like that that are predominantly right now being run on foreign capital. They're global cities fully that you can't divest from that if you were to ban foreign ownership of these places, you would see the value slide. Now that would be good if you wanted to buy a home. And I appreciate and understand that it would be bad for the people whose 401ks are invested in these companies with a BlackRock or a Vanguard Estate street or anything like that who are invested and they're retirements are indexed to how much real estate these companies own and, and how much money comes in and all this stuff.
Chris Distefano
It's like you and I always talked about one way or another, you're going to pay taxes here. So it's like, it's like, you know, when we talk about real estate taxes in a certain town, you're like, that's too much. You're like, well, you're going to get hit either way. So same thing as this, you can remove the foreign investment, but either your 401k goes down, your property value goes down.
Tim Dillon
And here's the thing, the people, and I totally understand the people that aren't invested in the market who want lower cost of living. I appreciate it, they've set the system up so that everybody is integrated on some level, so that it's much easier said than done to say, I want to just take a hatchet to it. You can say that. You can say you want to bring back American jobs, and I would agree with you. But when those tariffs comes in and the prices spike dramatically, that period is going to be very difficult for people that can't afford. Now, in the long run, will it be worth it? I don't know, and no one knows. But the impulse, I understand the impulse of going like, we've, we've hollowed out the manufacturing base, but then, you know that that group of people is still going to suffer under the very high prices.
Giannis Pappas
So was it, Was it a good idea to have a tariff war with 1 billion ninjas? We're willing to. Who's willing to suffer more?
Tim Dillon
I think, I think that their standard of living can drop precipitously in a way that ours can't. I think they have that advantage. I also think, though, that. That forcing countries to the negotiating table, some of Trump's advantage is that he does behave erratically. And I think sometimes that erratic behavior can lead to good things. Because sometimes in a negotiation, you do want to get the feeling that you are negotiating with a crazy person, right, who will just do anything. Now, that can go one of two ways. So it's just one of those things, right? It doesn't mean.
Chris Distefano
Well, you hit it, too, with, with the China. The thing is, we like, even, like you know, owning a house, right? We, we all want to go after it, the American dream. But that's what they call it, the American dream in China. That's not necessarily the goal to. They'll live off the government. They'll allow themselves to kind of have their.
Giannis Pappas
They don't have a choice.
Chris Distefano
But I'm saying. But that's why to fight those people, it's tough. You know, our standard of living goes down if our favorite restaurant closes. We, like, have to have a protest and we can't handle it, where the Chinese will say, listen, you could kill members of my family, as we're okay.
Giannis Pappas
As long as the glory of China in 30 years.
Chris Distefano
That's what it is. So it's tough to beat them.
Tim Dillon
Yeah, it's. It's hard. Yeah, it's hard.
Giannis Pappas
But because they can turn invisible.
Tim Dillon
The advantage that America has always had, which we've actually forfeited over the past few years, is we've always been the global center of cool, right? That people want to be America. We exported movies and music and Things like that, that people really, we were an aspirational country. People wanted our standard of living. They wanted the, the house with the two car garage, the vacation. They watch shows like Beverly Hills 920 or even shows like Seinfeld and go. These people are living cool, fun lives. And then I think over the last few years we've lost the ability to manufacture that type of, you know, PR campaign. We just don't have it anymore. So what we should be hitting China with is the cultural thing of being like, yeah, but we're cool, right? And we're doing things that are cool.
Giannis Pappas
Can we get Candace Owens to call Z's wife a man?
Tim Dillon
I mean, we can see. She might not be.
Chris Distefano
Yeah, yeah.
Tim Dillon
I don't think she is the French one might be. She might be the French one might be.
Chris Distefano
Yeah.
Tim Dillon
I don't know. Manly. Sure.
Chris Distefano
Yeah. I mean, so listen, at the end of the day, I mean at the end of the day, then we're probably going to say if we had to choose one, if we have, if we, if we have to give the coordinates to China and say you're going to bomb one and only one.
Tim Dillon
Beverly Hills is Beverly Hills ultimately because it's, it's, it's part of a dying thing.
Giannis Pappas
Right. And it's one industry based.
Tim Dillon
Yeah, yeah. Beverly Hills is really nothing. I mean, in the sense that like it's a cool city. The Hamptons isn't much of anything either, to be honest. It's just Manhattan's the thing. The Hamptons just kind of whatever. But if you got to get rid of one, you would go with Beverly Hills because it's part of Los Angeles. And it's hard not to identify Los Angeles as a sinking ship.
Chris Distefano
Got it.
Tim Dillon
When the television and film production has fully fled the state.
Chris Distefano
Right.
Tim Dillon
You can't get it back. It's not going to happen. You can't put that, that you know, worst in the homeless, the fires, the crime is the fact that they have let their main industry leave the state.
Chris Distefano
You know, and it makes me feel bad because, you know, Beverly Hills is on this decline and then the Menendez brothers, when they get out, are going to come back to a city that doesn't look like how they left it.
Tim Dillon
And that's unfortunate is my main concern.
Giannis Pappas
Yeah, that's, that is a main concern.
Chris Distefano
I mean, they are getting out.
Giannis Pappas
They are.
Chris Distefano
So we know. So to be crystal clear, the means they are. I, as I read something about it this morning, some lawyer was saying that they are getting out the, that in his. He's never seen the judge allow a resentence hearing if it's not fully the full intention is for them to get out or else. You're not going to, you're not the judge. They're very worried about spending.
Tim Dillon
You know what I say? Let him out.
Giannis Pappas
Yeah.
Chris Distefano
At this point.
Tim Dillon
Yeah, they've done their time.
Giannis Pappas
Maybe we've lost our greatness because we, we frown upon dads like that.
Tim Dillon
Well, you know, turn their kids into star tennis players. I bet some big Hollywood executives call the judge and go, we need them out now. We need to save Paramount. Plus, seriously, Taylor Sheridan needs to put them in cowboy hats. And we need some rent. Now.
Giannis Pappas
What about Republican Hollywood? Austin? Do you think that's got a chance to come up?
Chris Distefano
That's going to be fine.
Tim Dillon
No, it's not that it's dead, but there's, there's, there's, there is no Republican Hollywood. There is no. The whole thing's collapsed. It's all just the black box of digital.
Giannis Pappas
Libertarian Hollywood or it's Entertainment 3 podcasts. That's it.
Tim Dillon
That's the thing you don't realize. Hollywood, like, is just like, that was a real thing. That hundreds of thousands of people, millions and millions of people derived a living.
Chris Distefano
From that bigger GDP than most countries.
Tim Dillon
Yeah, Yeah. I mean, it's just, it's, you can't set it up in Texas or anywhere else because like New York, that started in the 1400s as a Dutch fur trading outpost and then grew into a city that predates America. Everything forms over very long time and for many different reasons. Movies are dead. It's not like, oh, we're going to make them in Texas. It's like, no one gives a shit.
Chris Distefano
So do you really foresee. We've, I've pondered this. Do you foresee very similar to the car industry in Detroit? Detroit becoming. That's not the industry.
Tim Dillon
No. Because it's not going to happen. Like, Hollywood has weather. Yeah.
Giannis Pappas
It's too nice.
Tim Dillon
So you'll just have really rich people continue to live in Southern California. The city of Hollywood will become a museum that people will visit. Got it.
Chris Distefano
Like, it'll be like a San Diego.
Tim Dillon
Yeah. I mean, if they're smart, they'll focus exclusively on tourism right now. And, and, and they're going to try to bring back some of those jobs. But I think they pivot to like, it's a tourist destination. Come visit.
Chris Distefano
Right.
Tim Dillon
And you make it really, really nice.
Chris Distefano
It's interesting. Yeah.
Giannis Pappas
Yeah. I got a good question. So how now?
Chris Distefano
We'll see about that.
Giannis Pappas
Yeah. How does the state now filter its propaganda?
Tim Dillon
Yeah.
Giannis Pappas
If there's no Hollywood.
Chris Distefano
That is a good question.
Giannis Pappas
Yeah. How do they do that now? Well, do they approach influencers? How do they.
Tim Dillon
They'll probably try to do that. I think they will count on the public getting so black pilled and dispirited that they don't really need propaganda anymore. Only because there's going to be so much noise and so much chaos. I think they'll just count on people to like tune out.
Giannis Pappas
Right.
Tim Dillon
That's what I think.
Giannis Pappas
So there's no more Rocky movies. Chanting if you can change, I can change.
Tim Dillon
No, I think more.
Giannis Pappas
Just tune out.
Tim Dillon
I think people are going to tune out and they're going to you. It'll just get more and more fun where you just do the face ID and then you're in the world and then you know the augmented reality is coming. Virtual reality, they haven't figured out a way to do any of that yet. But like the metaverse, all that stuff, I feel like they just. Their goal is to usher people into that. That as quickly as they can so that people can stop. So they can start ignoring reality and live in these digital worlds. Then they can program the digital worlds.
Giannis Pappas
Got it.
Tim Dillon
To be what they want them to be. Reality is something that they've kind of given up on. They're trying to usher us into that.
Chris Distefano
As Giannis has said many times in the show, reality is a suggestion.
Tim Dillon
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't think they care.
Giannis Pappas
Right.
Chris Distefano
Care at all.
Tim Dillon
I don't think they care.
Chris Distefano
But this isn't happening tomorrow. We still have 50 to 100 years. Not in our lifetime. In our children's lifetime. Might be.
Tim Dillon
It's hard to know how long it'll take. Take to. To. But. But I think it's happening sooner than you think. I think you'll be AI and stuff's gonna get real freaky within 10 years.
Chris Distefano
Cash is king, as we've been saying here on the show. Yeah, you just want. Just want to make sure you have, you know, just. You never know.
Tim Dillon
Yeah, it's gonna get weird.
Giannis Pappas
It's gonna get weird. It's gonna get weird with the.
Tim Dillon
We're around to see a little bit of the weirdness for sure.
Chris Distefano
Very interesting time for us to be alive, actually.
Giannis Pappas
Yeah. As long as you can. They make a robot that you can, people will be okay.
Chris Distefano
Well, you can. They already have it. They already have it. They have it.
Tim Dillon
Nobody that lived in the 90s in Hollywood that would ever trade place. Places with any of us. Zero. You brought them back and you said, you guys used to have fun. There were no cameras. You know, a woman acted up. You threw her in a Santa Monica canyon.
Chris Distefano
Yeah.
Tim Dillon
And now they would come here and they would go, what is this? I'm sure I'm in surveillance all the time. Right. I'm being filmed at a restaurant. I'm cheating on my wife.
Chris Distefano
Right.
Tim Dillon
I'm doing that. I'm doing that. AI is taking the job. What is this? I can't even abuse my assistant because it's virtual. Yeah, yeah, they don't want.
Chris Distefano
No one wants.
Tim Dillon
Yeah, they don't even want it. Yeah, they don't even want it. It's. It's. There's no point. No, no, there's really no point right now to even be a big Hollywood executive. What would be the point? What would be the point? It's not fun at all to me. What's the point? Yeah, I'm successful. Like.
Chris Distefano
Yeah.
Tim Dillon
If I'm successful, what the hell's the point of anything? Yeah.
Giannis Pappas
Yeah.
Chris Distefano
And the money is not the same.
Tim Dillon
Nothing's the same.
Chris Distefano
Yeah.
Tim Dillon
Yeah.
Giannis Pappas
You can't get away with any crimes anymore because de facto surveillance.
Tim Dillon
Barely worth committing. Yeah, they're barely worth committing.
Chris Distefano
Yeah.
Tim Dillon
The crimes are not even worth committing.
Giannis Pappas
Is that why everyone's so depressed? Because they can't have any fun anymore?
Tim Dillon
I think people just have started to realize that. It's like, you know, it's like if you're a kid and. And the, you know, they send for you, like the dean or the principal or somebody sends for you, you're in trouble and you're just walking down a hallway. That's what society feels like. We're walking down the hallway now, and our dean and our principal is automation and artificial intelligence. And wherever the tech overlord is going to take us, and we just know that there's no way out of it. So we have to walk down that hallway.
Giannis Pappas
Right, Right.
Tim Dillon
And that's what society feels like right now. We just don't know what's going to happen when we're there, but we know it's going to be weird and maybe not something that we love.
Giannis Pappas
So you think.
Chris Distefano
Good point.
Giannis Pappas
The tech overlords now have a grip on society?
Tim Dillon
Yes.
Chris Distefano
I mean, they were the ones at the presidential inauguration.
Tim Dillon
They were all Democrats and they all then discovered they were Republic when Trump won.
Giannis Pappas
Right.
Tim Dillon
They all then went there, China drops his deep sea ki. Yeah. All of a sudden the tech people go, we need a lot of fucking money. Yeah. Sam Altman, all these guys that go to Trump. They go, we need a lot of money, Elon Musk. Like, we need money. We got to be competitive with them. And yeah, I mean, I think they're fully. I don't think they believe in America as a country. I think they believe in the power of technology to elevate the human experience into a non human experience. Right.
Chris Distefano
To them, America is more than just the lines on map. They believe America is throughout, everywhere.
Tim Dillon
No, no, no. They don't care about America at all. They believe they don't. America is just a place they were born to. To get into.
Chris Distefano
Just on their path.
Giannis Pappas
Yeah.
Tim Dillon
One of the biggest startups during COVID was they were trying to create another country where they were going to buy land and run a country on crypto and make it into a libertarian paradise. They don't want a central government. They don't want America. They want to run a country on a digital currency with kind of an oligarch thing. Because why would they. Who are billionaires on their way to trillionaires. The wealthiest people that have ever lived, and I'm including Carney and Rockefeller right now, because they're getting to the point where they're on average, adjusted for inflation. They're right there with Carnegie and Rockefeller. I mean, maybe you could go back to the Ming dynasty and say those people richer. The petro dictatorships are richer, but these are the wealthiest people in a western country that have ever lived. Loved.
Chris Distefano
Right.
Tim Dillon
For the most part. And why would they listen to a congressman from Georgia who, you know, like.
Giannis Pappas
Who needs help with his email from his son.
Tim Dillon
Yeah, yeah. They're not into that. It doesn't make any sense to them. And why would it?
Giannis Pappas
Yeah.
Tim Dillon
So they think that they have to take over the American government and use it for their own ends in the same way that the financial industry believed that they had to do that in the 80s. Actually, I did it and did it.
Chris Distefano
Right.
Tim Dillon
And did it.
Giannis Pappas
I tracked the culture based on Mark Zuckerberg's aesthetic.
Tim Dillon
That's right.
Giannis Pappas
He went from progressive.
Tim Dillon
Yes.
Giannis Pappas
There's a. He has two eras now.
Tim Dillon
He's a jiu jitsu.
Giannis Pappas
And now he's.
Chris Distefano
Yeah, hair. Nice.
Giannis Pappas
Is there another Mark Zuckerberg coming or is this the final form?
Tim Dillon
He wins. Right.
Chris Distefano
He doesn't come out in a kimono with his eyes peeled.
Giannis Pappas
Is that what's next?
Chris Distefano
You better hope he doesn't come with the tape on the.
Tim Dillon
If he comes out like that.
Giannis Pappas
Yeah.
Chris Distefano
Then it's off with one of those.
Tim Dillon
Right.
Giannis Pappas
That could be the next one.
Tim Dillon
Then it's over. Yeah.
Chris Distefano
He comes sitting on the floor.
Tim Dillon
Yeah. If you see him next and he's doing real slow tai chi, like that's it, you're done.
Chris Distefano
So hopefully any of that.
Giannis Pappas
Yes. So hopefully this is final form.
Chris Distefano
That's right.
Giannis Pappas
What's the last stand?
Chris Distefano
He morphs into a Chinese.
Tim Dillon
Where Poa.
Giannis Pappas
Yeah. I just don't know if we can withstand their onslaught with Jiu jitsu.
Chris Distefano
Yeah.
Giannis Pappas
The kids could fight.
Chris Distefano
They always good.
Giannis Pappas
They're ninjas, dude. It's tough. They. It's really tough.
Chris Distefano
I actually read something about them. How real evil the Japanese were in World War II. They used to make the soldiers their prisoners of war. They would all line them up and then they would all have the top Japanese soldiers go in front of them and make. They would get their dick sucked. They would make. They would. They would have the. The soldiers would have to suck the Japanese guys dicks. And then they would make one soldier shoot the other one in the head as soon as the one guy came. So it's just what it was. And they would cut babies out, pregnant women in front of them, disembowel them, wrap them up. They would do. It was fun, cute stuff. So they needed to be bumped.
Giannis Pappas
Now if you were giving advice to someone coming up now, right, let's say the kid's 15, 16.
Chris Distefano
Not comedy, just overall locker.
Giannis Pappas
No, overall. Oh yeah, overall. A kid coming up. 15, 16, right. You got your two beacons on a hill, right? You got Beverly Hills, you got the Hamptons, right? You're gonna give them advice. How do you get to one of these two places? What do you got to do now? Who do you got to be? What career should you choose? How do you live the American dream? Now you're talking to this 15 year old kid. He's got his phone in his hand. AI's coming. You know, he sees Candace, he sees people getting famous from political punditry. He sees comedians, he sees a little mo. He sees us, he sees lawyers, he see Chatgpt doing contracts. What do you tell this kid to make it to the Hamptons to live the American dream?
Tim Dillon
I think it really depends on what that kid has. Everyone's got a skill and some. There's people that are hot, that are attractive, that are going to be attractive their entire life. They got to trade on that.
Giannis Pappas
So is that an only fans go start that?
Tim Dillon
I don't know. I don't know what it could be. Right. It could be marrying into a very wealthy family.
Chris Distefano
That's also a business.
Tim Dillon
Shutting your mouth and going into a wealthy family, you, you, you can trade on that. There's people that are entertaining and, and relentless.
Giannis Pappas
Yeah.
Tim Dillon
And those are the two things you need right now. In the, in the, in the business that we're in and adjacent businesses, it's actually talent. But you got to be relentless. Yeah. You can't stop. You got to keep going, keep going.
Giannis Pappas
Keep going, keep going until you go fucking crazy.
Tim Dillon
Until you go insane.
Giannis Pappas
Yeah. Yeah.
Tim Dillon
And then you even make more money.
Chris Distefano
Like you, like you've only. Like you've said, this is a, this is a life sentence.
Tim Dillon
It's a life sentence. Now, there's people that have. That. There's people that, for whatever reason, you know, have a tremendous ability to withstand, you know, I don't know, like, large amounts of adversity or whatever the case may be. And then those people will probably go into like some type of shady underground thing thing, right? Crime Syndicate, intelligence agency, shadowy thing, whatever. I don't know. Yeah. It really depends on your nature because you couldn't. You, you can't tell a certain type of person to just do a certain type of thing.
Giannis Pappas
The intelligence communities must be flourishing right now because it's a real information war, right? It's like we're all on camera, everything's a show. So they must have their tentacles. There must be this sort of of war going on in the shadows between all these countries, intelligence services, to win favor, don't you think?
Tim Dillon
Yeah, I mean, there's, there's got to be fun.
Giannis Pappas
It's got to be fun again.
Tim Dillon
There's definitely that. I think a lot of those people that we think of, like analysts that are sitting in Langley, Virginia are not making a lot of money. They're kind of government employees and stuff like that. I think it's the big people and the, the people that really have all those skill sets and relationships from the intelligence community, but kind of do their own thing. Thing.
Chris Distefano
You're right.
Tim Dillon
Those are the people. That's why all of our ex intel chiefs pop up in Dubai a lot.
Giannis Pappas
Right.
Tim Dillon
And they're no longer. Well, what are they doing?
Chris Distefano
Right.
Tim Dillon
They're all over the world and yet they're not officially working for the United States government, but they're everywhere doing all these fun things, you know?
Chris Distefano
Yeah.
Giannis Pappas
You got to admit, it's a confusing world. Right?
Chris Distefano
It's a confusing world. But you know what's happening, and you'll see it with our kids. Our kids are young enough with it. This is what it is. It was. Is anti chat GPT. We have Software. The schools have software to stop GPT now.
Tim Dillon
It's in now it's, how do we.
Chris Distefano
Make these kids good at chat GPT? So how do we. How do we help them?
Tim Dillon
And the next thing will be, how do we give them the chip?
Chris Distefano
Sure.
Tim Dillon
Because the chip is going to be chat GPT now is inside.
Chris Distefano
Well, in many ways.
Tim Dillon
I mean, you augment yourself. I mean, that's coming inevitably. We might be the last generation of people that are fully actually dn like him.
Chris Distefano
When you text. When you text with my, you know, stepson's 14, when. When he's on a group chat with me and mom, every response we get from him is a response from ChatGPT. He'll say, how do I respond to my mom? And not piss her off with her saying, me, it's the fifth time I've asked you to come down for dinner. And you know, it's a chatgpt response. It's not him, really. He's not saying because you'll get a response of, hey, mom, sorry, I know this must be hard for you, but I am just taking a moment here upstairs with me. I've been using the bathroom. I might have some gastrointestinal issues. I will be down in a few minutes. I love you and I thank you for your consideration.
Tim Dillon
Like, text like that, Right?
Giannis Pappas
Okay, so.
Chris Distefano
And Jasmine doesn't understand sometimes. I said, jeff Jazz. She's like, you know, I don't know, what is he doing? Like, what are these responses? I'm like, it's Chachi pt. And then. So he obviously won't admit that. He's like, no, I'm writing that. I don't want to piss off Mom. I said, I know what you're doing. It's chat. You're responding with chat, GPT and that. But by the way, I'm not mad at him for that. That's how these kids do. I actually told him what you should do is when you're texting with your friends because everything now is forever. And, you know, you're a young kid. You know, you. You don't know what's going to happen later on in life. You should just respond with all the shit with chat gb, Right? Just do that. Why not? Not right. Say chatgpt the prompted. How do I give a response right now where I'll still be funny and cool to my friends, but I won't be hung out to dry five years from now when I get a job?
Giannis Pappas
Yes. Once they get to the text messages, once the hackers figure out how to get into the text messages.
Chris Distefano
That's a problem.
Giannis Pappas
Whatever overlord we have is going to be able to honey pot all of us.
Chris Distefano
Well, I think that that's probably at the higher levels when you say why is so and so saying that. Yeah, I would assume at some point some company hacked into their phones and say, hey, we have you saying all this art going.
Giannis Pappas
Me and you were going into Reedu.
Chris Distefano
We have, we have a rail bit. The only, the only way out is what we could just say is because of how good AI is, you can just always say it's AI.
Tim Dillon
It's very interesting. I'll just say this. It's very interesting that all of these places, whether it's the Wall Street Journal or the New York Times or whatever, Harvard or Yale or all of these places usually end up agreeing on a lot of things. So that's very interesting.
Giannis Pappas
And that thing is we will take that money from Qatar.
Tim Dillon
Yeah, well, some of them, sure. But a lot of them are agree. They agree and you go, well, this is either by chance that everyone agrees by chance, or there's some mechanism to keep everybody agreeing with each other.
Chris Distefano
That's personally what I think it is.
Tim Dillon
Yeah. I mean, there's something interesting about the fact that like, oh, so the Wall Street Journal is right wing and the New York Times is supposedly left wing, but they are all together on lots of key issues. They believe a lot of the same things.
Giannis Pappas
And that's because the top street, they're all in a Wall Street.
Tim Dillon
The dominance of the financial sector, pretty much universal support for Israel, the American empire, all of these things, you know, free trade, a lot of open border stuff, pro business. All of these things are, they're, you know, somewhat anti populist. Yeah, all these things are, are pretty interesting for organizations that seemingly are diametrically opposed to each other on issues maybe like a tax rate. If, you know, we're, we're fed this idea that like, well, the Wall Street Journal say taxes should be 37 and the New York Times says they should be 39.5. Wow.
Chris Distefano
Right?
Tim Dillon
Or the Wall Street Journal believes in abortion hairs abortion for, for till the second trimester, the first trimester. The New York Times believes it should be for the entire pregnancy, whatever. And then we lose the idea that like, oh, but all of them don't believe that Citibank should ever get broken up.
Chris Distefano
Right. And that's because the top editor both have been contacted and they both have proof. The powers that be say we have you both say in the N word in text messages.
Tim Dillon
Right.
Chris Distefano
It's up to you, guy.
Tim Dillon
Whatever it is that nobody really diverges from a certain course. Right.
Giannis Pappas
Right.
Tim Dillon
Yeah.
Chris Distefano
Yeah.
Giannis Pappas
The big banks is one that they really agree on.
Tim Dillon
They all agree on the big banks. They agree primarily on a lot of the tech stuff. They, they agree. Corporate interests dominate.
Chris Distefano
Right, Right.
Tim Dillon
Always. And immigration's a corporate interest. Low wage labor is a corporate interest. Now it's been branded as this whatever.
Chris Distefano
Racial thing you may.
Tim Dillon
But what it really is is a corporate interest. The Koch brothers were the biggest proponents of immigration in this country. The most well financed. And they didn't do it because they loved people from Guatemala. They did it because they didn't. They wanted to break the back of the American working class and destroy unions. And they knew that the way to do that was to flood the country with low wage labor and that's.
Chris Distefano
They make more money.
Tim Dillon
That's what it is. So corporate interests have defined the press for a very long time.
Chris Distefano
Right.
Tim Dillon
And that's why you have schools like Harvard and Yale. There just existed to create a consensus amongst the wealthiest and most powerful people about how they're going to behave.
Chris Distefano
Well, that's why authenticity is the biggest it's ever been now and why everyone's responding to being authentic. Because there is no way you can, we can pull back the curtain now any way we want. You used to be able to hide this stuff a lot better. You can't really anymore.
Tim Dillon
Anymore.
Chris Distefano
That's why someone who's authentic is moving forward at a much because they're saying, oh, this person's matching what we. Because you could say to your blue. I mean, I would assume, I would assume that every other president does exactly what Donald Trump has done with all this stuff. It's just there was no video evidence to support it. Now there is. Yeah.
Tim Dillon
I think it's the same thing. I think he's certainly diverging on certain things. But again, there are just key things that no American president really goes against.
Giannis Pappas
So if we, we're deporting all these people now. Right. It looks like it's getting. They're doing a good job.
Tim Dillon
We're not really deporting.
Giannis Pappas
All of these people are actually the same as Biden.
Tim Dillon
Yeah. They were not putting all.
Giannis Pappas
But there's less, there's less crossings. For sure.
Tim Dillon
There's less crossings, less crossing.
Giannis Pappas
So if the factories do come back.
Tim Dillon
Yeah.
Giannis Pappas
How do we sneak those people back in.
Tim Dillon
Yeah.
Giannis Pappas
To work. The fact.
Chris Distefano
Well, no, what's going to happen is they're going to be AI those workers. They might test it. There I think that could be a hunt.
Tim Dillon
The messaging of this administration has been very confusing and not good. Meaning like if you're doing all of this stuff to bring back American jobs and Elon Musk and these tech guys go, actually it's going to be AI. And then Steve Bannon goes, wait a minute, we're not doing all of this to make life better for AI. We're not doing this to make life better for robots.
Chris Distefano
Right.
Tim Dillon
This is when the rubber is going to meet the road. You have a lot of feuding factions in the Republican Party. You have like the, let's call them the Hannity, Ben Shapiro wing of low taxes investment. The same type of Republicans that have always been there. The country club's not nice. If you're poor, start a hedge fund, good luck. That's their part. Then you have the Steve Bannon wing, which is a populist nationalist wing. They go, we want tariffs, we want factories backed. We want working class. We want to raise taxes to 40% on podcasters that have been successful. Thank you, Steve. And other people. We want high taxes. That's one wing. And then you have the tech, futuristic. Oh, we don't really believe in anything except we want to take humanity and augment it and get to where we're going sooner. We want to accelerate all these policies. We want to smash the government that's going to tell us no. We want to suck all the money out and then we want to take all that money and start moving our projects faster than China's. And we don't really give a shit.
Chris Distefano
About anything except that Republican, Democrat. We don't care about humans in general.
Tim Dillon
Yeah, we're not human. Yeah, they're transhuman.
Giannis Pappas
Is there a consensus among them? They all believe this. They all believe that the future is this sort of augmented human who lives out Mars.
Tim Dillon
Yes. Thousand percent. Who's 1,000 post. Yeah, thousand percent post problematic.
Giannis Pappas
Post anxiety.
Tim Dillon
Most of them.
Giannis Pappas
Yeah.
Tim Dillon
Believe the inevitability is the, the gene splicing stuff, the, the, the neural link stuff that the, the, the chip, the, you know, the, the human being. You know, Elon said once, I think that we're like a low grade operating system or something. I don't know if those are the exact words, but like they pretty accurate though. Most of them do believe that in order we have to merge with AI or AI will just get rid of us. I think that's pretty much where a lot of them stand. I'm sure there's some of them that dissent from that version view. But I think pretty much it's a, it's an inevitability that if we're going to have artificial intelligence and quantum computing and all these things, if human beings don't merge with it on some level, that it will just become more powerful and it will get rid of us.
Giannis Pappas
They want to edit out our flaws and make us into a higher being.
Tim Dillon
Yeah.
Giannis Pappas
And they think technology go to you.
Tim Dillon
And go, your kid can have no medical issues, no this, no that. And by the way, what about blue eyes, blonde hair or whatever?
Giannis Pappas
Yeah.
Tim Dillon
And it does get hit larian and freaky and scary.
Chris Distefano
Yeah.
Tim Dillon
But it does seem to be. That is what a lot of this.
Chris Distefano
I mean is that one of the, one of these futurists said that they firmly 100 believe this was an interview from last year that the, that the first human who will live forever is alive right now. They believe that.
Tim Dillon
That's right.
Chris Distefano
That who will, who will not whose consciousness.
Tim Dillon
And actually he's the president. Not only is he alive.
Chris Distefano
Yeah, yeah.
Tim Dillon
No, I think the tech people are smart. They go where we see where the country is going. We know it's going the world, it's not America. The world's going in this, this populist direction because a lot of the people in these countries that have governed these countries have done so without concern for the standards of living of the working class.
Chris Distefano
Right.
Tim Dillon
The working class have kind of been thrown overboard. Those people are now angry and elect. Electing populist leaders. So then the tech people sachet right over to the populist front and said, yeah, we're gonna buy Twitter. We'll let you say whatever you want. Is that the other thing? But also we also have idea. And by the way, I'm not even saying that the tech people are wrong on all their things because they're. It's just weird and interesting and like it's. Their concern is like not like let's get people healthcare. Their concerns like we're going, we're going somewhere that nobody's prepared for, but we're going there. We're going there quick. Yeah.
Giannis Pappas
They're not thinking about individuals. They're thinking more about aiming.
Tim Dillon
They're the future. They think the future is probably getting off the planet or the future is like, you know, merging with the, this artificial intelligence. It's. It's interesting.
Giannis Pappas
Very excited about the future. They're not really here. They're looking forward. So in conclusion, you got the Hamptons, you got Beverly Hills. Will there be a new one with these people that they'll set up or which one of these will win between the two you all you. You ultimately said Beverly Hills is gone. So the Hamptons has the edge now. Is there a third one coming?
Tim Dillon
Yes. And it will. The the one that they really want is one post nation state. It's super national. It doesn't really have and if there is a government, it's a council of people that are decide. You'll get it. You'll get cryptocurrency when you're born. It'll be biologically linked to you be biometric data that links a specific crypto to you. You'll get a certain an allowance in that you'll use that money to buy things you need.
Chris Distefano
Right.
Tim Dillon
You'll have these 15 minute walkable cities where you'll be able to go here, there and the other thing saying they're going to start to use climate change as a way to ban private automobiles. They'll make travel harder. You'll actually stay where you are. They'll use the threats of war and terrorism as a way to keep you from going to other places. And they'll create kind of like a District 9 situation for the poor. The rich will be able to buy into a better version of this and then the super rich will live on a cloud in the way that they do now now. But it'll be tech feudalism as opposed to Republican versus Democrat. You'll get so bored of the political fights after a while I think you'll just tune out and I think you'll just have this tech feudalism where you will. You will get new updates all the time and things will get easier and cooler per se but you will not have an investment in. You will just get a standard of living and a quality of life. But there will social mobility will not exist. You will not be able to go from one class to another as easily.
Giannis Pappas
And that's why the Indians are probably so pissed.
Tim Dillon
Yeah, that's where it's going. That's where they want it to go. They think human beings are just too unruly, that democracy doesn't work. The problem with democracy, the inherent flaw in democracy is that you have these uber powerful oligarchs are going to manipulate it to their own ends anyway so why not just fucking move in the direction of attack. Feudalism where you accept that these people are going to run the show and they're going to run it with technology and then AI will make a lot of the laws.
Chris Distefano
That's what I was confessing.
Tim Dillon
And they won't have emotion behind Them.
Chris Distefano
Right. And we're going to beg for it at some point.
Tim Dillon
And that's it. So I think that's what's coming. I think what's coming is actually kind of dull.
Chris Distefano
Right.
Tim Dillon
And not super. So it's going to be less.
Chris Distefano
You have a little fun while we're here then.
Giannis Pappas
Yeah. And so geographically speaking, Greenland, Epstein island, where are they going to put it?
Tim Dillon
Oh, that Mars.
Giannis Pappas
Yeah. I mean, where's the new Hamptons going to be? Is that why they're trying to buy green?
Tim Dillon
We'd be in one of those towers in Dubai, just above everything.
Giannis Pappas
There it is.
Tim Dillon
That you'll have to go all the way up.
Chris Distefano
And no phones, no, no tech blocks the tech.
Giannis Pappas
It's all built. It's all built into you.
Tim Dillon
It'll all be built in. You. You know, it'll just be built in. You are the phone.
Chris Distefano
Right.
Tim Dillon
This will go in there, right? That. That's my best guess. I don't know. That seems to be where we're heading.
Giannis Pappas
Right?
Chris Distefano
What can you do?
Giannis Pappas
That's what.
Chris Distefano
Nothing. What you do is you go see little Mozzarella.
Giannis Pappas
Yeah.
Tim Dillon
How you doing? How you doing, my boy?
Chris Distefano
Little Mo. All right.
Tim Dillon
Thanks for having me. I'm your mother on Netflix.
Giannis Pappas
That's right. Go watch Tim Dillon on Netflix right now called I'm your mother, of course. Listen to the Tim Dillon show. Follow Tim Dillon if you don't already. But check out the special. It's great. He's a hilarious stand up comedian, a hilarious social commentator, a hilarious podcaster. What other slashes do you got?
Tim Dillon
Well, I did get a text earlier today. I'm the Secretary of Defense. I didn't realize that.
Chris Distefano
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Giannis Pappas
We got political polling with the Unnoticed boys and Ladder 14. And this is the part of the show where you make us laugh and we love each and every one of.
Chris Distefano
You and it's what it is. And it's a community. That's the thing@patreon.com history hyenas. If you're looking for a community that's where you go. We got a community. Everybody loves each other over there. And it's just very fun. All right. Welcome to the show. Tyler La Sousa. Men's suffrage.
Giannis Pappas
Men's suffrage gets a chicken finger. And I like it. I'm putting them on the list.
Chris Distefano
Wow.
Giannis Pappas
Yeah. Men's suffrage. Yes. Men are back.
Chris Distefano
Only very, very rare times do what do is a name this early get on the list.
Giannis Pappas
Yeah. And just a simple chicken finger like that usually just gets chicken fingered, but it's very funny.
Chris Distefano
That's like throwing a perfect game on opening day.
Giannis Pappas
That's right.
Chris Distefano
Yeah. Then we got Trumpel Stillskin gives it to me dodgy style, and I like it.
Giannis Pappas
Okay. That's a Drexler.
Chris Distefano
No booty cutie.
Giannis Pappas
No booty cutie. Okay. That's funny.
Chris Distefano
Then we got Tiberius Is Glue fish.
Giannis Pappas
Okay.
Chris Distefano
Leonardo. Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles. Phoenix Harrison. Brian Nassen. Make the check in bar duty free. Okay. Make the check in bar duty free. I don't know.
Giannis Pappas
Okay.
Chris Distefano
Okay. Pierogi. Monkey with the piece.
Giannis Pappas
Okay.
Chris Distefano
Chrissy's. Chrissy's. Prissy little glue gun. Beefcakes. Gobba my ghoul. Frog heart. Okay.
Giannis Pappas
Gobble. My ghoul was funny too.
Chris Distefano
Blake Sands. Majestic Queef.
Giannis Pappas
Majestic Queef. Okay.
Chris Distefano
Braden Garland. Titi is my dad. Chicken figure.
Giannis Pappas
Well, it's up to you.
Chris Distefano
Oh, walk, anyone? A family walk, remember?
Giannis Pappas
You know, what would you know?
Tim Dillon
I can't.
Chris Distefano
I mean, that's for you. So family can't do that.
Giannis Pappas
Is that chicken figure or walked into one.
Chris Distefano
I mean, I would say it's a chicken figure. Walked into one.
Giannis Pappas
So there you have it.
Chris Distefano
Yeah. Slash.
Giannis Pappas
It's a slash.
Chris Distefano
Matthew Will Hogan. Royal Brothers. Cole Jameson. Logan Sitler. My name rhymes with something.
Giannis Pappas
Okay, That's a very funny one. That's sort of. That's a creative. Walked into one.
Chris Distefano
Yeah. David Gillow. Andy Pace. Schindler's List post credit scene. Andrew Schultz. Cameron, cameo.
Giannis Pappas
Wait, what?
Chris Distefano
Schindler's List post credit scene. Andrew Schultz cameo.
Giannis Pappas
Yeah. Those credits rolling?
Chris Distefano
Got it.
Tim Dillon
All right.
Chris Distefano
All right. Treat my piece like a trumpet. Call me. Glue. Us.
Giannis Pappas
Armstrong, put him on the list.
Chris Distefano
All right. Glue. Armstrong.
Giannis Pappas
Armstrong on the list.
Chris Distefano
That's what it is.
Giannis Pappas
That's what I'm talking about.
Chris Distefano
Jack Conway. Philip Gar Ryan. Jason Beckett. Josh Patient. Isaac. Last name Gastelum. No. No.
Tim Dillon
Good.
Chris Distefano
Then we got a Portuguese Squeak with a piece. Welcome, welcome. Brittany Miller. Hassan Raza. Boston Ice Squad.
Giannis Pappas
Put the Bron. Ice Squad on the list.
Tim Dillon
Okay.
Chris Distefano
Right.
Giannis Pappas
Yeah, yeah.
Chris Distefano
Derek Thiol. Then we got technically, a Muzzy. But when I get a buzzy, I touch my cousy's fuzzy puzzy.
Giannis Pappas
Okay, okay, okay, okay.
Chris Distefano
I can tell you stole this car by looking at the vinegar. Vinegar say what? I don't get that mean the vinegar.
Giannis Pappas
It's. Maybe I've walked into one.
Chris Distefano
I don't know.
Tim Dillon
VIN number isn't a VIN number on a car.
Chris Distefano
Yeah, but it says vinegar.
Giannis Pappas
Yeah.
Chris Distefano
I don't know.
Giannis Pappas
He's trying to walk into one. Yeah, yeah.
Chris Distefano
John Dunn. I order my cornerback, Bobby Caldwell.
Giannis Pappas
Yes, I know. He said, I think you can tell if the car's stolen.
Chris Distefano
Right.
Giannis Pappas
By looking at the vinegar.
Chris Distefano
Right.
Giannis Pappas
So looking who's driving the car.
Chris Distefano
But what does that mean? The vinegar.
Giannis Pappas
That's why this is a fun game, because you're as smart as you are. The thing about you is you're a combination of like, aw, shucks. Naive.
Chris Distefano
Yeah.
Giannis Pappas
And also very smart.
Chris Distefano
Yeah.
Giannis Pappas
Like you do study the Jew. Right, Right. But there's also like. You still don't get it.
Chris Distefano
I still don't get.
Giannis Pappas
Take the VI out of it.
Chris Distefano
It's what it is.
Giannis Pappas
I could still have the car stolen by looking at the. Take the VI out.
Chris Distefano
Yeah. It's what it is.
Tim Dillon
Yeah.
Chris Distefano
Okay, so walked into. Once we exit out, we don't talk about that.
Giannis Pappas
I love how they're coming up with creative ones to trick you, though. It's a very fun game. Yeah.
Chris Distefano
All right, then we got Cam, Kimberly, Kitty, David Power. Zane Garner. King Louie. Needs a bidet, Cuz that's an old one.
Giannis Pappas
Yeah.
Chris Distefano
Vonnie, Jammy. Then we got Benny Spreads his butt cheeks and roller blades backwards.
Giannis Pappas
Put him on the list.
Tim Dillon
All right.
Chris Distefano
Fingers. It's a good one, though.
Giannis Pappas
It's a real good one. It's a funny visual, no?
Chris Distefano
Yeah, yeah. Then we got Fume Raider. Like Tomb Raider. Fume Raider.
Giannis Pappas
Yeah.
Chris Distefano
Drexler, Matthew Howell. Yamakaze. Pilot.
Giannis Pappas
Wow. Yamakazi Pilot. I'm gonna. I'm gonna Drexler it. All right, coming after that other one.
Chris Distefano
Matthew. Saddle Check. Dylan. Hob, Kelly. Joe Horton. IROSI, TMG, J.D. allen, Osama. Big, Hard on.
Giannis Pappas
Put them on the list. Wow, this is a great list.
Chris Distefano
Yeah, yeah, it's a great list. Dashton, Kiefer. S.G. zach. James, Thomas B. Bacon, Carrie Roche. Nude on Wicker. Matt Cook. D.K. jackson. Frederick David Parker, Joe Caserta. If my Leroy neighbors are listening to this, please turn down your music. I have work in the morning.
Giannis Pappas
Put him on the list. This is. This is. I hate this. Dude. I hate when we have some list with none and then. Fuck.
Chris Distefano
It's just not fair. It's just what it is. But we did listen to you guys. And we're not doing the lists anymore with the guests because you guys hate that.
Giannis Pappas
Yeah.
Chris Distefano
Warm milk before bed from Nancy P's quadruple D's.
Giannis Pappas
So good. I'm going to drag slurp just because of the list.
Chris Distefano
All right.
Giannis Pappas
I mean, what are we supposed to do? Yeah.
Chris Distefano
It's not. We could do.
Giannis Pappas
You guys. You guys can veto me and say, you know, but what am I supposed to do? You're right.
Chris Distefano
You're right. Shane Mills. My girls. Turd cutter drops bigger bombs than Hiroshima.
Giannis Pappas
I want.
Chris Distefano
Takes pictures.
Giannis Pappas
Yeah, I want it. I put it on. But you got this. Is the definition of a Drexler Too much? Yeah, it's a Drexler.
Chris Distefano
Mitch Ekif's Grateful. Grateful J Grows. Elise Meehan. My uncle said it's only gay if you like it.
Giannis Pappas
Put him on the list.
Chris Distefano
All right. On the list.
Giannis Pappas
Oh, my God.
Chris Distefano
Yeah. DJT. Alex Eamon. I'm paying interest on this. Daniel McCrogan. Benjamin Missile Strikes Nyahu.
Giannis Pappas
Oh, God.
Chris Distefano
Okay. Joseph Cabrera, William McNeil. Endless glue for my Eastern Hemi piece. CODIS, Annan, Kenny G. But not the gay one, schmatt. Greek squeak. Let me take a peek.
Giannis Pappas
Okay.
Chris Distefano
Chase Campbell, Frisbee toss. And Champ Yadolf Rizzler.
Giannis Pappas
Walked into one.
Chris Distefano
Casey Anthony's Waste Management. It's so good.
Giannis Pappas
Walked into one. It's really. That's really good. You want? You want. It's walking.
Chris Distefano
I get to watch it.
Giannis Pappas
Put the baby in the.
Chris Distefano
Yeah, it's what?
Giannis Pappas
It's what it is. Yeah. Big creative, though.
Chris Distefano
It is. Big papa pump.
Giannis Pappas
Very funny.
Chris Distefano
Knuckle gape. Okay. Walked into work.
Giannis Pappas
Jesus Christ.
Chris Distefano
Not good. Angel Otero, Beer covered. Phillies fan. Mike Shaughnessy, DG615 and Spank Me open and call me Hugo Boss. Michael Toomey, Lara Croft Fumerator. We got a few fumerators. What's going on?
Giannis Pappas
That's a good one. I don't know. I don't remember ever having that one.
Chris Distefano
Then we got mine instead of mine. Hunt instead of.
Giannis Pappas
They put mine instead of Minecamp.
Chris Distefano
Yeah.
Tim Dillon
Okay.
Chris Distefano
Not gay, but will leave it in. Not gay, but we'll leave it in till the swelling goes down. What that means?
Giannis Pappas
I don't know what that means either. The swelling of his dick. Yeah.
Tim Dillon
All right.
Giannis Pappas
Okay.
Chris Distefano
The custom leather interior of Leah Thomas's designer crease.
Giannis Pappas
Okay. Okay.
Chris Distefano
Frisbee freak off. Hale Diddler, Tyler. Javier Barriga. Nobody shot JFK his head just did that.
Giannis Pappas
Put him on the list. Okay.
Chris Distefano
Tampa. Tony's Taint Baloney.
Giannis Pappas
Taint Baloney is great.
Chris Distefano
Funny.
Giannis Pappas
Drexler.
Chris Distefano
Drexler. John Andre. Yeah, John Andre. Interesting British spy. Daniel Downey. I made Akash touch my piece in high school to prove he was gay.
Giannis Pappas
Okay?
Chris Distefano
Okay. Lee Anderson, Brent Evan youn Nazis could have just sicked Chinese bats on the Frisbees. Called my coworker a Muzzy. Got called into hr, told him it was a character piece. I got fired.
Giannis Pappas
Very funny. That's a Drexler.
Chris Distefano
Drexler. Sean Miller. Chrissy looks like Tanner from Love on the Spectrum. Ronald Ferguson. Hitler wasn't a bad guy. Hold on. Hitler wasn't a bad guy. Meth is just really good. Okay?
Giannis Pappas
It's very funny.
Chris Distefano
All right, last page. I tuck my pee pee between my legs while I eat a pussy.
Giannis Pappas
Okay, Funny visual.
Chris Distefano
Paul Green here for the content. Benjamin Shout Shep Casey Oldenberg. Igloo orgy in 51st state was too hot and now we're in a puddle of water, syrup and amp glue.
Giannis Pappas
Very funny, Drexler.
Chris Distefano
I yelled ice on the 7 train because I wanted a seat. Just what it is.
Giannis Pappas
You got to put him on the list.
Chris Distefano
I mean, it's very funny, very inventive, Very inventive.
Giannis Pappas
And I'm telling you, this is the worst one. This is the worst one. Meaning good.
Chris Distefano
This is hard.
Giannis Pappas
I want to put all these on the list.
Chris Distefano
You want to put all the winners?
Giannis Pappas
I want all them to be ppw.
Chris Distefano
Giovanni Ramirez. Born of Frank but identity as Kevin. My GF is Mexican, so I hit her with tariffs, put her on the list.
Giannis Pappas
I never wanted you to stop more than now. This is just getting on fair rest.
Chris Distefano
Of one page and then what's done?
Giannis Pappas
I just. This is bad. These should all be their own winners on their own lists.
Chris Distefano
Marcus Lewis. I glue gun to Frisbee to stop my leaky roof. M Vitale. Spencer Alegreza, Rick Roberts, Jesse Aponte. Tariffs are for Anne Frank and Chrissy D. Spunky Monkey monkey. Kevin Robertson, Amit Ramadi, Justin Acree. I bombed on Rogan because cigar boons make me gag. Average and proud. Scott Czitic. I put a pep in my step and now I'm enrolled at ucf. Hi. Dagan Wasp Monkey with a leaky. Jijan P. Latta. 14. Oh, lot of 14 with an R. Yeah. Andrew Norman, Logan, Omar Sandoval, and then Puerto Rican pegs in between Chrissy's legs. Hashtag rest my case.
Giannis Pappas
Okay.
Chris Distefano
All right.
Giannis Pappas
Thank God.
Tim Dillon
All right.
Giannis Pappas
This is hard.
Chris Distefano
So here's the list, folks. This is a.
Giannis Pappas
This is a.
Chris Distefano
This is a biggie.
Giannis Pappas
This is. Do you think. This is probably the biggest list we've had.
Chris Distefano
This is a lot. So let me read them all out and then. And then we'll make a decision here. If my Leroy neighbors are listening to this, please turn down your music. I have work in the morning.
Giannis Pappas
Keep it for now.
Chris Distefano
Okay. My uncle said it's only gay if you like it.
Giannis Pappas
We're going to chicken finger that way.
Chris Distefano
Okay.
Giannis Pappas
I'm sorry, dude. We have a lot of those gay ones, you know, And I've.
Chris Distefano
And I've heard that before. It's only gay if you like it.
Giannis Pappas
Yeah.
Chris Distefano
Okay. Nobody shot jfk. His head just did that.
Giannis Pappas
Very funny. I'm going to drag slur that.
Chris Distefano
Okay. All right. Men's suffrage.
Giannis Pappas
I'm going to. I'm going to chicken finger that.
Tim Dillon
Right?
Chris Distefano
That was early on.
Giannis Pappas
Yeah.
Chris Distefano
Treat my piece like a trumpet. Call me glue. Is Armstrong.
Giannis Pappas
Louis Armstrong's too good to not make a contender.
Chris Distefano
Louis Armstrong, Boston I squad.
Giannis Pappas
I'm going to chicken finger that really tough.
Chris Distefano
Benny spreads his butt cheeks and Rollerblades backwards.
Giannis Pappas
A contender.
Chris Distefano
A contender.
Tim Dillon
Yeah.
Chris Distefano
Then we got Osama, big hard on.
Giannis Pappas
I'm gonna contend to that.
Tim Dillon
Okay.
Giannis Pappas
Yeah.
Chris Distefano
And then got a couple more. Then we got. I yelled ice on the sever train because I wanted to see.
Giannis Pappas
You gonna contend to that.
Tim Dillon
Okay.
Giannis Pappas
Yeah.
Chris Distefano
Kevin, my GF is Mexican, so I hit her with tariffs. Gotta contender that off the left. Okay. So. So here. So here's the thing. Cause we got 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6 contenders.
Tim Dillon
Yeah.
Chris Distefano
So I'm gonna have to just read them out.
Giannis Pappas
Yeah.
Chris Distefano
And she's gonna have to. Okay, this. I.
Giannis Pappas
This is gonna be votes. This is gonna be me making this decision. I don't want.
Chris Distefano
Let me just read them out.
Giannis Pappas
Yeah.
Chris Distefano
Treat my piece like a trumpet. Call me Gluis Armstrong, Benny spread his butt cheeks and Rollerblades backwards. Osama, big hard on. If my Leroy neighbors are listening to this, please turn down your music. I have work in the morning. I yelled ice on the 7 train because I wanted a seat. Kevin, my gf is a Mexican, so I hit her with tariffs.
Giannis Pappas
Here's the good news about this. I think we do this right. I really do think we get the right ones.
Chris Distefano
Yes, we do.
Giannis Pappas
I think we do it. I think most people agree, like, listen, we get the right one ones. So what do you think?
Chris Distefano
To me. To me. And this is just my vote. Just because I simply think it's the Most inventive, and it's just something we haven't ever really heard before is Benny spreads his butt cheeks and rollerblades backwards. I know, it's gay.
Giannis Pappas
Yeah.
Chris Distefano
But we've had a lot of ice.
Giannis Pappas
Yeah.
Chris Distefano
It's between that and glue is Armstrong for me, because we've had a lot of ice. We've had a lot of Leroy. We've had a lot of that, even though it's hilarious.
Giannis Pappas
Right.
Chris Distefano
But I just think it's inventive. The rollerblading backwards spreading your butt cheeks is very funny. And glue is Armstrong is very funny. That's my idea. What do you think?
Giannis Pappas
I'm 7 train all the way. You're 7 train.
Chris Distefano
All right.
Giannis Pappas
So I wanted to see. Yeah.
Chris Distefano
If, if, if you vote for one of those, the ones I'm going with are the 7 train. That's going to be the winner.
Giannis Pappas
Okay. I know we've been going on a little bit. Can you do me a favor? Can you just read them all once and I'll make a call.
Chris Distefano
Treat my. Well, I'm just going to read the ones.
Giannis Pappas
Yeah. The ones that we have left.
Chris Distefano
Okay. I yelled ice on the 7 train because I wanted to see Contender Benny spreads his butt cheeks and roll blades backwards. Contender or treat my piece like a trumpet. Call me Glis. Armstrong.
Giannis Pappas
Let's get rid of Louis Armstrong.
Chris Distefano
Okay.
Giannis Pappas
Sorry.
Chris Distefano
Between Benny spreads his butt cheeks and rollerblades backwards. Or I yelled ice on the 7 train because I wanted to see.
Giannis Pappas
I'm going to go with ice.
Chris Distefano
All right.
Giannis Pappas
I'm not going to. Yeah, I'm going to go with ice.
Tim Dillon
All right.
Chris Distefano
Congratulations. Go to history. Hyenas is back Dot com. See your name up in lights. I yelled ice on the seventh train because I wanted to see. You're our winner. Also check out our standup dates up there@history.com Yanni, you on the road at all?
Giannis Pappas
I am, yeah. I got a date. Stanford coming up, Montana. And that's it probably for the summer. But more dates will be announced.
Chris Distefano
More dates are to announce for me. The end of May, we got Washington, D.C. durham, North Carolina, Charleston, South Carolina. And then in June we have. We're coming to New Mexico, we're coming to California, and we're coming to Denver and Kansas City and then go check it out. Christy.Comedy.com Madison Square Garden. The theater at Madison Square Garden, September 11th. And then the Wilbur Theater and the Chevalier have been added in Boston for October.
Giannis Pappas
Go see Chrissy. I forgot to say the big news. My special will be coming out in May. Day, it's either going to be Netflix or YouTube. Probably YouTube, but just get ready. Want to get the word out there now and start it. So the special is coming. It's what it is.
Podcast Summary: History Hyenas with Chris Distefano and Yannis Pappas
Episode Title: Aladdin Jews vs Waspy Jews: The Story of the Hamptons & Beverly Hills w/ Tim Dillon
Release Date: May 1, 2025
Hosts: Chris Distefano and Yannis Pappas
Guest: Tim Dillon
History Hyenas! brings a unique blend of history and humor, and in this episode, hosts Chris Distefano and Yannis Pappas are joined by comedian Tim Dillon to delve into the cultural dynamics between Jewish communities in affluent American locales—the Hamptons and Beverly Hills.
The episode kicks off with Yannis Pappas introducing Tim Dillon as a pivotal guest who will be with them throughout the entire discussion.
The conversation begins by distinguishing between Sephardic Jews (referred to humorously as "Aladdin Jews" or "Persian Jews") and Ashkenazi Jews ("Waspy Jews"), highlighting their cultural and geographical influences in areas like Beverly Hills and the Hamptons.
They discuss the visibility and behavioral traits of these communities, with Tim Dillon noting the flamboyant lifestyle of Persian Jews compared to the more understated Ashkenazi Jews.
The debate intensifies as the hosts and Dillon compare the Hamptons and Beverly Hills, exploring how each area symbolizes different facets of wealth, power, and cultural dominance.
Tim Dillon elaborates on how Beverly Hills has transformed into a hub for Persian Jews since the fall of the Shah, affecting its cultural landscape.
The discussion veers into the historical influence of Jewish mobsters in Hollywood, mentioning figures like Bugsy Siegel, and the intertwined relationship between organized crime and the entertainment industry.
Dillon and the hosts critique the significant role of foreign capital, particularly Chinese investment, in high-end real estate in Beverly Hills and the Hamptons, discussing its impact on property values and the local economy.
The conversation shifts to the influence of major media outlets and financial institutions in shaping public opinion and political agendas, suggesting a consensus among seemingly opposing media entities due to shared corporate interests.
The episode delves into speculative territory, with Tim Dillon discussing the future integration of AI into society, the potential for "tech feudalism," and the erosion of traditional human roles.
They ponder the societal shift towards augmented reality and virtual worlds, suggesting a diminishing role for human interactions and an increase in digital control.
Towards the end, the hosts and Dillon offer satirical yet pointed advice to young listeners aspiring to achieve success in elite circles like the Hamptons or Beverly Hills.
Injecting humor, the episode features a light-hearted segment where the hosts and Dillon create and vote on amusing and inventive names for fictional characters, exemplifying the podcast's blend of comedy with historical discourse.
Wrapping up, the hosts promote their Patreon for exclusive content and announce upcoming stand-up tour dates, maintaining the podcast's engaging and community-driven spirit.
In this episode of History Hyenas, hosts Chris Distefano and Yannis Pappas, alongside Tim Dillon, navigate the intricate tapestry of Jewish communities' influence in affluent American locales. Through a mix of historical anecdotes, cultural analysis, and sharp humor, they paint a picture of evolving power dynamics, the impact of foreign investment, and speculative futures shaped by technological advancements. The episode not only entertains but also provokes thought on societal changes and the perpetuating cycles of power and influence.
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