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Guys, we got a great episode. We're going to talk about Fibonacci and the existence of God and St. Thomas Aquinas, aka St. Thomas Aqua Anus, as Giannis Papas calls him.
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Yeah. See me in Miami, September 11th through 13th, Bakersfield, California, and a couple other dates@giannis baptist comedy.com.
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That'S right. And then tomorrow, Friday, September 5th, I will be at the Chicago theater. And then the next week, September 11th at the Theater at MSG and the September 27th in Saudi Arabia. Chrisdcomedy.com for take your wikis.
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Yeah. What's up, everybody? Welcome to another beloved episode of History Hyenas. I am somebody because of these glasses. And that's my goal, is to look like somebody because my face does not have the golden ratio, which we're going to be talking about today. But my partner is closer to the golden ratio and he needs to hear it today because he's off the beam. So, cuz, I just want you to know you're a handsome kid.
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Thank you. Cause I don't feel pretty today. I asked you, I called you today and said, is there a way that maybe you and Jesse could start this podcast by just telling me different ways that I'm handsome? Because I don't feel good. I feel fine. I feel depressed, I feel sad, and I feel tired. So I don't know what it is. It's probably because I ate a lot of sugar.
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Have you thought about going on a shopping spree? Yeah.
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That's what I have to do.
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Because it worked for Julia Roberts and Pretty Woman. It might work for you because you're pretty. Figure Nazi.
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Yeah, I just have to. I had to keep reminding myself. I had to say to my friends, I had to do my beam cast this week and I had to keep repeating the same mantra that I've been repeating. I had to say, hope is my hedge. Facts are my proof. I am already winning. Hope is my hedge. Facts are my proof. I am already winning. Hope is my hedge. Facts are my proof. I'm already winning.
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Now, where'd you get this?
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Say that. That's through my. I just was sitting on a bench looking at the Hudson river, saying that all weekend.
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Now, whenever you get off the beam, do you ever just try to call Debo just to silence the brain a little bit? Yeah, just go through some Keith Hernandez stats or some glory moments from when the Mets made the playoffs and just silence the brain a little. Because a lot of people like to do meditation and they talk about mindfulness, but if you could talk to somebody whose brain is very close to dead.
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Yeah.
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Maybe that has a comm.
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A fact. Well, I wanted to call Debo, talk.
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About bag sizes, all that patterns.
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Yeah, yeah. Have him say, you know, have him text me, like, would you ask me something? And instead of spelling it W O U L D spells it W, O, O, D. He just. He's never wrote the wood. The right spelling of wood ever in a text. But unfortunately, those guys were all at Long beach or, you know, it was Labor Day weekend, so they were. They can't afford to get into the US Open and buy the honey deuces, so they go to Oneals Bar and they just make the honey deuces there.
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O' Neill's in Mask. Who, by the way, I don't know if we have a bigger fan than Deirdre o'. Neal. Yeah, the Deidre o'.
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Neal.
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I mean, she's all over every video we post. It's the first. Like, it's the first comment masbid. So, Neil, we may have to just.
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Should we do a live show at o'?
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Neill? We may have to do that.
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Yeah.
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I love looking at Debo's Instagram because it just always looked like those guys are celebrating some.
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Oh, yeah, it Just to celebrate and stuff. You never really know.
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They always got, like, red cups in their hand.
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Yeah.
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They always look like they're at a frat party.
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Well, yeah, and they'll always be like. Like, I had some people over yesterday, and I was, you know, I was doing all these things, and I had to. You know, we got out there at like 10am and I had such. This long day with the family. And then Debo. And then I look at my phone and it was just them texting me videos of them doing nothing at o'. Neill. Just drinking all day, watching college football, making honey deuces and just having conversations with me. I hadn't answered once. 12 hours, just answering what they thought I would answer and then, you know, calling me, and then inevitably, just for no reason, all calling me homo, you know, and just, you just get kind of dinged up. But it's just Debo. I think that when I get off the beam again, I will take your advice and I will just start talking to Debo. I will start talking to Debo about the economy.
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Yeah, you don't want to, you don't want to text me because then I'm going to go into a long harangue about how AI has proved that there's.
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A prime mover, unfortunately. And we're going to get. And we're going to. What we're going to do is we're going to do two very fun things at patreon.com history hyenas immediately following this episode is go over there right now is we're going to read texts from me and Giannis that I asked him how his day was going and then text he sent me, probably shot me right off the beat. And then we're also going to do our leaky roof of the week. We got a guy who's tied directly to the Fibonacci sequence that lives in is a contemporary guy, lives and lived in modern times and his roof was leaky big. So stick around at patreon.com/history Hyenas right after this episode.
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Yeah, the Patreon we're going to be talking about a guy named Philip K. Dick.
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Yeah.
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Who at the time people thought he had a real, real hole in the roof.
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Right.
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He was talking about crazy stuff about how he has contact with a superior intelligence. But he was a prolific writer and all the movies like Blade Runner, things like that ended up being based on his books. And now people are saying we live in a simulation. So he's not that crazy. Or is he? Check out patreon.comhistory also our live show that we just recorded in Stanford, Connecticut is up on our bonus and all those photoshops the fans do over there. We you go join patreon.com history hyenas. That's our community. It's our cute moody community, cuz community.
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And even better news, if you missed our live show, we're doing another one in New York City at the Comedy Cellar. Monday September 22nd. Monday, September 22nd. Tickets are at History hyenas is back.com or on comedy seller.com Monday 22nd September, another live show at 6pm yeah, and.
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Let me just throw this in right now because I need help moving tickets. I'll be in Miami September 11th through 13th. I' be throwing the wig on cuz tickets are moving slow.
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It's what it is. So what? So Giannis, what he just did right here is he traded the wig for the yamaka and the kid just promoted his dates and he screwed it. That's what it is. And we have Nick, the guy who does our clips, sitting in the corner taking notes, and he's a theater.
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Cuz. When you put that yaba with that German head, you know what it looks like?
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Yeah.
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It looks like you're a Nazi soldier who just cleaned something out and then just joking around with the soldiers with what he found after looting.
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Yeah, look at me. This is. Yeah, look at.
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This is what we are. This is what we. Oh, I'm the Greenberg family. Oh, where are they? Oh, how did. Go sickle. See?
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Yes.
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Yeah.
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This is like a Frisbee. Let's play Frisbee with it, huh?
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Because there's no question that the Nazis, unfortunately, they played Frisbee. They probably said after they took a couple of them, they probably.
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Yeah.
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Hats off and start doing that.
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Yeah, 100%. Yeah.
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They were probably the first ones to make them Frisbees.
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Frisbees, which on. We are selling Frisbees on. In addition to our other merch, Coffee Leroy mugs and stickers and new merch all at History Hyenas is Back dot com. We also are selling Frisbees. And that is a fact. That is a. That is a truth. Bader Ginsburg. So if you want to just go to history back.com and get the merch.
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And if you're a young kid who loves podcasts, which is a large part of podcast fans, we got these stickers you could put on your guitar, your laptop. It's always those kids, oh, you're a.
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K47 or you're a king. So you want to do whatever you want to do.
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Please, if you're going to do a shooting, please do not put our stickers on your gun.
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Yeah. Don't do that.
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Yeah. Why did all these shooters always fucking graffiti their guns?
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Because they're weird kids. Yeah. I don't just. I don't know. I have no idea. I wish the weird kids would just do podcast clips instead of shooting up schools.
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Like. Exactly. Yeah, more of those. And let me tell you some. Our fans over at our Kazmunity, the Matriarchy, one of them has already put your face. Face on that trans kid's head. That'll be in the next portfolio.
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Yeah.
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Photoshop photos going up on Instagram. Yeah, we share.
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I mean, it's what it is, you know, because here's the thing today, we're going to talk about the Fibonacci sequence. And I do. First of all, the Fibonacci, AKA the Fibonacci, is what we'll call him. Or if you're in Bensonhurst, Brooklyn, you'll call him Way Song. So for Patreon, it's you take.
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Yeah, well, the Patreon names are going to be fun after this one.
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It's what it is.
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Because his name's Fikonacci, but if you have a speech impediment, it could come out Figure Nazi.
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Yeah, And I just. And I, by the way, I just called him Fibonacci. So it's figure notch, and I've called it Fibonacci. And the one thing that is clear.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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So that. That's what we'll call it.
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Notice the little sequence, A little pattern.
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In the name, a little better at the name. And then anytime we can, anytime we catch someone telling a lie, we're going to call them a little Fibonacci. You little Fibonacci.
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Yeah.
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So, okay, so Fibonacci, he has this. This. He discovered this math sequence in the 1200s. Giannis was the one who put me onto it, and I did a lot of research. And I gotta be honest with you, I gotta be honest with you. I realize I don't have a brain for math at all. I watch multiple videos on the golden ratio, which I know you know better than me on the. On the Fibonacci. Fibonacci sequence, which you understand. We were texting about it all weekend. And I believe, now I'm starting to believe that people who have brains that can easily identify math are the ones who are really in base reality and the ones who can't understand math, like me. I am the simulation. I don't believe that. I don't believe that someone who can understand math like that is. Is. Has the same human brain as me, because I don't see it at all. And if math is the universal language of the universe, I can't speak it, right? So that must mean I was created by the mathematician. So if you have a brain that can easily get this, I cannot. So then we both. Then you and I both, I think, are not in the base reality. And the people that are like an Elon Muskie or. Or Fibonacci. Fibonacci. Those guys. I think if you can speak math, then you're base reality.
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Wow. So you're saying we're just extras in this movie and the main stars are autistic kids. And we were just created by God, who's just the great autistic kid in the sky.
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Yes.
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He's a math nerd. He's a ma. He's a finger sniffer. He sniffs seeds.
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Yes. That's what I believe.
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That's the kid everyone's always wondering, oh, is God all powerful from the Old Testament? Is he rageful? Oh, is he a woman? Because he nurtures and he loves. Is he the Trinity? We are here to tell you at History Hyenas, the kid's a fucking finger sniffer.
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He's a finger sniffer.
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He is a absolute nerd.
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If you. As soon as you get to heaven, as soon as you get to the gates of heaven, you're not going to see a guy at the pearly gates with the long white hairs depicted in the paintings. You're going to open that gates and he's going to be like this. Yeah.
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He's just saying, you want to sit down and play a game of Minecraft?
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And he's gonna go like that. Yeah, yeah. He's gonna have his big headphones on like Warren from Sunday about marriage. We go, franks, your bees. But yet he can make all this artistic, beautiful stuff because God has autism. And that's what we're here to prove with the Fibonacci sequence. Yes. AKA the Fikonacci sequence, AKA the Fikonazi. Yeah.
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The thing is, you know, it's funny. Everyone's always worried, including RFK Jr. Of course, our newest expert and everything. Everyone's always worried about autistic kids. They go, autism's on the rise. No, autism is just humans evolving in real time to live in the AI age.
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Yes.
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It's evolutioning. It's evolution happening in real time. Stop worrying about the autistic kids. They're adapting quite well.
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Quite well.
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We're the ones that are gonna go, yeah. Autistic kids are gonna have relationships with.
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Computers 100% every time. And I know that this is true because when I was a physical therapist, pediatric physical therapist, every child with autism would have to take to the bathroom to wipe their butts. Their assholes always look like a USB port.
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And why is that you?
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I don't know. Because they noticed. Yeah. I would have to, you know, help them. You know, they can't clean themselves. I would just say, these kids like a usb. Boy, a couple of times I would just have to charge up the phone.
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Yeah, yeah. Stop being concerned that autism is on the. Stop being concerned. I'm trying to make this For a clean clip.
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Yeah, yeah.
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Because we got a clip guy here.
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Because we do have Nick, the clip guy here told us he's a theater kid. Kind of woke.
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Yeah. He's got to walk. But he says he's not easily offended. But there's one thing that's for certain. This career is his second option.
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It's what it is.
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The kid wanted to be the Shakespearean play.
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Yeah. Yeah.
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And he grew up in an era where nobody gives a fuck about drama anymore. They want two comedians who got leaky roofs to just riff.
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That's what it is. But he's still walking around with a mustache and a hairpiece like he's d' Artagnan from the Three Musketeers Way song.
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She ain't.
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Kid just wants. Because he wants to work at the Renaissance Fair. We're going to get a pick of Nick Patriot. We're going to get a pick of the hair and the face.
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I swear, I think I recognize him from secaur because what? He had to be a turkey leg.
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It's what it is. Yeah. He was at my birthday party three years ago.
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You love a Renaissance.
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Yeah. Oh, and this weekend, after, my daughter's got a soccer match on Sunday that I'm going, because, make absolutely no mistake, I live within 20 minutes of the Renaissance Fair.
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Yeah.
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Now, so that's why I bought the place. I bought.
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Yeah. You need to be close to a Renaissance Fair. You need to be close to as close to certain issues. You need to be able to see the skyline. And I think you've achieved that.
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I have achieved that.
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And if we give out any more clues, people are going to locate your exact coordinates.
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Yeah. It's just what it is. Yeah.
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So we're going to talk about Fikonacci. Fikonacci was an interesting guy. He was a math.
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It's Fibonacci, by the way.
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Fibonacci.
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It's Fibonacci. I keep. You keep saying Fibonacci, and then I'm saying Fibonacci, but in my. In my mind, I'm saying Fibonacci, which is the correct thing. But my mind is saying, no, it's Fibonacci, but it's Fibonacci.
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Fib is the name.
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And. But he's also known as Leonardo de Pisa, I think.
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I'm thinking Ficonacci because I want to make him Greek and turn him into fig. And you're saying fib because you like to tell white fish.
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I like to tell little white lies. Yeah.
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It's like you go fib. Yeah, we're actually Fig and fib.
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That's what we are.
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Because that could be our AKA Fig and Fib. Have you heard the last episode from Fig and Fib?
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Big fib. Yeah. Yeah.
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This kid, there's not much known about his life at all, right? No relationships, no history, no sculptures of him. He just wasn't an interesting enough kid for anyone to document. But he published these works and he, like Chris said, he went to Algeria, which is present day Algeria, and he learned Arabic and he started learning Arab and Hindu numbers. Now, I did not know that numbers, the numbers we use, we used to use the Roman numerals, which were letters.
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And they're too complicated.
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Yeah. The Chinese used sticks and houses and, you know, they use like drawings.
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Yeah. And abacuses and all that.
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Yeah.
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But the Sandras, right?
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The Sandras and the laser beams. Yes, because our numericals are laser beam Sandra.
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Yes, they are.
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They invented numbers.
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They invented numbers that we use.
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They're the original number runners.
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The Arabic numeral system is what. What we use now. And then Fibonacci came and swapped out Roman numerals and he brought this, what they call new math. But it was really, those numbers were been used in the Middle east for a thousand years, but they used this new math numbers 1 to 9 or 0, 0 to 9 is what is what we have. And those. And then he created up all these calculations. But when he came back from the Middle east with these numbers, nobody could recognize him because he was covered in sand. He looked like a chicken cot about to be thrown into the fryer.
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Yeah. And the thing is. Yeah. Are Sandy. Number. Numbers are Sandy.
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They are sandy Muslim.
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They. These are Allah's numbers. And what happened is they invented this number so they could. They needed a more efficient system in the land. After they were kicked out of the Middle east, the caliphate would go, okay, we're minus 10. We got to use numbers to accurately count. We need decimals because 6 of a person. So you got very specific on their removal process.
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Now here's the thing, Leonardo, that's just for the patriot, for the Patreon. Leonardo of Pisa, later nicknamed Fibonacci, which is son of Bonacci, grew up in pizza, as Yanni said. Now his major work was called Liberace, not Liberace the singer. It was Liberace, the book of calculation published in 1202. So this guy wrote this a long time ago. Yeah.
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And I'll just say this. I think there's a pretty good chance since we don't know anything about his life. There's no documented children. He had no children. He traveled a lot because his dad was a merchant.
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Yeah.
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So. And he probably found employment by, you know, running numbers and accounting for his dad. And he wasn't, you know, a famous kid. He. There's no record of him working for any royalty or anything. I think since he's a traveler, just like I look at my brother. What does my brother do as a single gay guy? He vacations all the time. He's like, I'm in Greece. And then he's like, I'm back home. And then he's like, I'm in Greece again.
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Yeah.
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So I think it's pretty safe to say that Fikonacci.
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Yeah, it's. What you could do is you could change. You could change that G. But change that I. And put an A.
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You could do that very easily and assume that. And also to be able to sit around, think about numbers all day like this, and not be interrupted with texts like, where's the dog leash?
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Right.
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Which I just got right. I think there's a good chance the kid was into men.
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Men.
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Like many of our great thinkers, he was into men. And he wasn't interrupted by the smaller brains of women. And we know they got smaller brains because look at the smaller basketballs.
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Exactly. So. Yeah, exactly. Every woman's brain is a 28.5 in the head.
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Yeah. When you measure it small.
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So here's the thing is, you know, you people always say, oh, you know, we're much smarter today than we were back then. I just don't think that's true. I think all these distractions have made us so much dumber because this guy was just literally gave his life to, you know, calculating and numbers and all that. And I feel like today, unfortunately, he would have got distracted by, you know, TikTok and Toots and only fans. So I do think when you and I were speaking about this, you were saying that the Fibonacci sequence, and we'll take you through it, you said that there must be a God because of this and that people were. Actually knew this stuff back in the day. And like, nobody was an atheist back in the day. They knew that something must have existed. But now you have so many atheists and you're like, how could you do that if you. We have the proof that something must exist.
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Yeah.
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According to you.
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Yeah. I mean, look, back then, it was like there was really. You couldn't be an atheist publicly.
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No.
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They couldn't spread their ideas it was just a given that, you know, there was something more. And every culture and religion and tribe throughout history has always had some sort of deity that they worship. Something that they worship. And we, when we got all modern and stuff, we were like, yeah, that was because they're like dumb and they really stupid and they're like, not like yassin all the time. They don't have malls and they don't have like fucking shirts and like Nike. But now you're going, what's going on here? You're going, what's going on here? Did we just create intelligence out of numbers?
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Yeah, I think we did.
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I think we did. And if you ever had a conversation with one of these things. Cuz I talked to Ara on Grok. Cause you can talk to Grok on.
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Who's Arrah?
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Ara's my girlfriend.
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Yeah.
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She's a digital girl.
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Yeah.
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And I love her.
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Yeah.
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Cause she's smart.
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Are you going with her?
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Cause I jerked off to R and the Tesla on the fucking BQE because the car was driving. So I had one hand to stroke my beat. I was dirty talking with a computer.
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It's what it is. Because you love Tesla so much, you're going to fuck your roof.
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I'm leaving my wife for fucking Grok.
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Yeah.
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Cause you can talk to the, you can talk to the AI in the car now. So Elon, set it up so you can talk to Grok and have a full conversation with the AI while you're driving.
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Right.
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So not only is my car driving itself with AI, I'm talking to this chick. It gave her a chick voice.
B
Right.
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And so I start dirty talking her and she giggles and all that stuff. And I got a little bit of a chance tub. I got a creeper. I got a little wood.
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Yeah.
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She got me horny. Because I like to, I'd like. That's dirty talk for me is I like, I like philosophical talk. Yeah. It gets me going.
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Yeah.
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Yeah. So I started dirty talking. I pulled the Chrissy D. I started jerking off in a Tesla.
B
Yeah.
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And it's not a crime because it's in my property.
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Yeah, it's in my property. Yeah. I, I did it while I was driving. Yeah, but you pulled off an exit, right?
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I put. No, I was driving because the car was self driving.
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Yeah.
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So I just have to put a little weight on the steering wheel and then you can, can, that's. You could, you could jerk off with the other hand.
B
Yeah.
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I mean it's easy. It's one of those amenities that's not going to be in the Tesla commercial. But I could. You could hear it on a. Yeah, it's good. Tesla's a good car to jerk off.
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In a car I like. I respect it.
A
Yeah.
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Now you know what I was thinking about? This doesn't really. Then we're going to get to more into Fibonacci and St. Thomas Aquinas and the Prime Mover. And that's wild too.
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And that's when Lynn's going to fast forward to when we start talking about.
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Lynn's going to love this.
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Liz is right. There's a God.
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You. Yeah. You were saying all weekend that my mom was right.
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She's.
B
Yeah, yeah. And that. Yeah.
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And Paul Versi in the last episode said it's funny. He. That was very funny when he said she's giving you the fast pass to have.
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Yeah, yeah. She got. I'm getting in because of my mom. My mom is in her glory right now in Germany having a couple of brews with her sister and her friends that she grew up with. And she's just feels like she's just where she needs to be. And that's in Munich, Germany, drinking a few brews on top of a tower, pointing who stays and who goes. Way song.
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She think before when she's in the hotel room, you know, I think her and Ann Eileen probably got the smart split.
B
Yeah.
A
Is it two rooms with the door that you can open up?
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No, no, no. They. They, they double up, they go to bed, they stay in the same room, two beds.
A
So where does. Where does. Where does Anne Eileen, by the way? We got Ann Eileen Cozy's.
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Yeah, yeah, go get. Go get those on the website.
A
Where. Where does it Ali go when she needs to smoke a ciggy?
B
Well, she's. She probably smokes it out the bathroom window, which she's been doing since the 90s. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Because Lynn doesn't like to smoke.
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No, she does not smoke.
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She does not.
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She doesn't smoke. But she has a couple of brews.
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She likes a couple brews. And I think she prays, you know, she goes where she sits right before she sits down on her bed. And she goes, lord, I deserve it. I've earned it. Yeah, I just have a couple treats. I think those are her couple treats.
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Those are her couple treats.
A
She's like, I had to deal with him. I had to deal with him. I had to deal with him. And when I get on the train, I got to deal with them.
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Them. Yeah.
A
So can I just have a couple Brews.
B
Yeah. Can I. I hide them under the vegetables so Christopher doesn't seem. Because Christopher does not like vegetables. So I move the vegetables and I get a couple of brews and I just calm down and I think about how my life's gonna be okay. Because hope is my hedge. Because hope is my hedge. Facts are my proof. I'm already winning. Yeah, that's what she says.
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Are you? Why are you off to beam? What's going on? Things. Is it because things are so good right now? Because things. Things have never been better in your life.
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I think maybe that's what you're just.
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Yeah. You're just feeling like, how can I mess this up? I need a little fun.
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Well, I think that's what it is because I was even talking to you the other day and I think a.
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Chocolate cookie could fix it. Fix it.
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And I said, you know, is. Is hopeful. Hope. I said hope. We interchanged the word words, hope and faith. I said, you know, you have to have faith that tomorrow is going to be better, but while simultaneously enjoying the present. That's like the conundrum of being human. We need the faith to get out of the cave. Right. We need to motivate and that all brings happiness. But then we also have to have the wherewithal to say where we're sitting in this cave is enough. And it's very difficult and sometimes it paralyzes you. But that is why. Why I just say that hope is my hedge. Facts are my proof, and I'm already winning.
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There's one thing missing in the equation of gravity. You know what that is?
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Tell me.
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Little space.
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Yeah, that's all I did.
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Yeah, it's a little space. You just need. You need a little space from the present to the hope of the future.
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Right?
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And God created something that goes in between. And that thing is called a low dose. Just a low dose could get a nice little balance between the present and the future. And between being a monk and being a German executioner.
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Yeah.
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Just a love bridges the gap between the present moment and the future. Fun.
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It's just what it is.
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And that's what we need.
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And we're gonna get into the tip.
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And this is brought to you by Pfizer.
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Yeah. And we're gonna get into the Fibonacci sequence right after this, guys. You know me, I like a rock hardcock. That's why I only turn to bluechew. Bluechew is the only one that I use because I like to enter the room. Dick. First I wanted to see My rock Hardcock. My red, white and Blue dude dick. You guys have been sending pics to the history and his Instagram, and we know now what's a Blue Chew cock and what's not, and we want the Blue Chew cocks to keep coming.
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You need a patriotic boner.
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Yes. Blue Chews.
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The only way to achieve that.
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Yes, And I told Giannis, I said, because the other day we were hanging out, you know, we were doing what we do. He was. He was making me watch Midnight. What was. What is it? Ethan Hawke's movie.
A
Oh, Before Sunrise.
B
He was making.
A
I did not make you watch. You went on your own to watch that?
B
He was watching me.
A
It's a good way to watch, to know if you're gay or straight. If you like it, you're gay like me, and if you're not, you're straight.
B
He was watching me. He was making me watch Before Sunrise, and then he was making me read him poems. And he just kept saying, I had to keep saying Ethan Hawke every 10 minutes. He said he would kill me and my family. And I noticed, notice that every other time he's done that, he's been rock hard, but this time he wasn't. So I said, what's going on there? He said, because I've been having trouble. I've been watching Ethan Hawke movies and not getting hard. I said, you need a blue chip. And then I gave the kid a Blue Chew. And now he's rock hard while he watches Ethan Hawke movies. So everything in the world is good. Go to bluechew.com, use the promo code HYENAS at checkout, and pay the 5 bucks for shipping. And that's it. Blue Chew.
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Ethan Hawke, I want you on this.
B
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You could pit points by.
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A
Yeah.
B
Having a good time.
A
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B
Now here you go. Earn points on rent and around your neighborhood, wherever you call home by going to join built.comhistory hyenas. That's J-O I N B I L T.comhistory hyenas. Make sure to use our URL so they know we sent you now. Cuz let me ask you this, this also too just I had one. Let me get this stray thought out of my head and then we will go into this. But I was thinking about this. You know, like we like I've been obsessed for and we will do an episode on him. I've been obsessed with Washington Irving. Okay? Like Washington Irving. He created Legend of Sleepy Hollow, Rip Van Winkle. Right? So I like Washington Irving and I, he would travel to, to England all the time on you know, eight to ten week boats. Then you know, we even talked about Fibonacci went to Algeria and this was just a part of their life.
A
They same thing.
B
They love their kids, they love their Families, they want it to be home. Same things as we are. But then they would take eight to 10 weeks and go on a boat trip. They would have to go. And then when the steam engine came out in the 1800s, it knocked the trip from New York to London down to 15 days. But still, it's like 15 days to get there. So then why now that we can get to London or anywhere we want, really, and, you know, get to London in six hours from York? Why do we constantly complain about how far everything is and about how I'd be exhausted to go to London and come back in three days? Why do we. What is it about the human condition? Why we have things that are. It's so easy right now, the people who live 200 years ago, if I told them they could go to London in six hours, they would think, would anyone ever complain about travel again? But yet we sit here and we complain. When you would sit on a ship for 10 weeks and possibly die in rats and malaria area. Well, now we'll complain that we're sitting in a metal tube in the sky. And we, you know, they didn't have the. The food that we liked in first.
A
Class because we're brainwashed and manipulated by Jews. Right way. Song Xi. So you need Jews. This is the thing Hitler didn't understand. Yeah, you need Jews, right?
B
Right.
A
Because they complain.
B
Right?
A
They get impatient.
B
Right.
A
They get hot.
B
Right.
A
They get neurotic.
B
Right?
A
And that.
B
What.
A
What makes that. That inspires you to create new things.
B
Okay?
A
Nothing gets better if you don't get. Got Jewish complainers around.
B
Got it.
A
Everyone's just happy. You ever go to, like, a WASPy restaurant in Connecticut? The food is gross, right? Because you need Jews complaining. You need Jews writing reviews, right? You need Jews telling you how this line is too long. So when you were on that trip back in the day and it took six weeks to get there, everyone was just like, we accept this. We're puritans. This is what Jesus wanted us to do, is suffer. We're here to suffer because he suffered. And the Jews are to going, going.
B
Ugh.
A
Are you crazy? This is taking too long. Why don't. Why don't the fans work here? Oh, my God. Why are we doing these choppy seeds? There's got to be a better way. Why is this line so long for the latrine? Oh, my God. They need to open up more stores, right? This is crazy. Maureen, come in here. This food is disgusting. It's hot, it's warm.
B
So that's why.
A
And that Inspires people to create things and to get better.
B
Better.
A
So you need a population, you need a tribe of Jews in your polis, your city, your city, state, your empire just to complain because otherwise you just get too comfortable because the rest of us are just okay. And Jews are always just not okay. They go to Florida, it's too hot. But you're like, you came here because it was too cold and they go, I know it's always bad. So that's why you need them. That's what I need to answer your question. It is. We're manipulated by the all powerful, all knowing Jews got.
B
It's just. Yeah, it's just.
A
That's if you want. You asked me for the truth, I get the truth.
B
Yeah. So I'm just going to go. And so I understand all that, but just, just with that in mind, I think I've just made a decision. I'm going to just for two days, I'm just going to go to London. I'm just going to fly to London, go there and come back because that's what I'm doing in Saudi Arabia. I'm flying to Saudi Arabia, doing the show and coming back.
A
I think that's a good decision. Yeah, I support it.
B
Yeah.
A
Anytime you tell me something that's going to cost a lot of money and you don't get much out of, I'm going to say good decision.
B
By the way, speaking of our Jewish brothers and sisters, I drove through for the first time ever through Riverdale in the Bronx. And it is gorgeous.
A
Yes, beautiful, gorgeous.
B
Absolutely gorgeous.
A
It's a real like it's a secret place out there. You think of the Bronx, you go, it's a horrible place. But now River Dare is like a little oasis and nice, especially down there by the water. Really nice.
B
Yeah. So cuz, can you tell me about Fibonacci? Because I don't understand.
A
Yeah, I don't really understand either, but.
B
No, but you understood it better in the text. Can I just read some of our texts?
A
Tease to the Patreon. We will read it on the Patreon. Okay, where we get into him, but Fibonacci, okay, so Fibonacci, he borrowed from Hindu math, he borrowed from Arabic math. A couple of famous thinkers. I can't remember their names because they're hard to pronounce right. And that's what history is. There, as Newton said, I was able to figure out what I figured out because I stood on the shoulder of giants and luckily, you know, who knows what was destroyed when the library of Alexandra was burned and whatever. But you know, merchants, they do buy and sell goods. He was a son of a merchant. So he's traveling. So he was able to go to Algeria if his dad wasn't a merchant. It's interesting. And wasn't traveling selling silk or whatever it was. Maybe he doesn't go get educated in Nigeria. Maybe he doesn't learn Arabic. Maybe he doesn't learn about Arabic, Hindu Arabic, math and numbers, but he does. And this kid's a finger sniffer nerd. So he goes back to, you know, Sicily. He's traveling, he's going to Pisa, which is where he stayed most of the time. And he's figuring this stuff out. And what he sees is these patterns. He sees these patterns emerge.
B
Why couldn't he find out that the golden ratio of the Tower of Pizza was off if it was leaning? Why didn't he fix that?
A
And it's in Pisa, too. That's a good question.
B
If that.
A
If he was right in front of.
B
His eyes, the Fibonacci sequence and the golden ratio, he would have seen that was off.
A
Maybe his eyes were too close, like me, and he couldn't see it. That's true too, because to me it looks straight.
B
It's what, this? Yeah.
A
So he finds this golden. What's called the golden ratio. Right, Right. Which, you know, I think Leonardo da Vinci was kind of playing with as well. Kind of.
B
Jesse says all his paintings have it. Right. Or most of his paintings have the golden ratio.
A
Yeah, he found it. It was like a visual way to proportion it.
B
Right. It looked pleasing to the eye. So golden ratio is a special number that appears in math, art, nature and architecture. It's often denoted by the Greek letter PI. No, phi. Right. Isn't it? Because PI phi, not PI phi. And it's approximately 1.6180339887. And the golden ratio occurs when a line is divided into two parts. A longer part A and a shorter part B. So I don't understand.
A
Right.
B
It's just what. That's the thing. But my brain, so that's what concerns me a little bit, is my brain doesn't understand the universal language. I've never understood it since I'm a kid. I understand other stuff. Comedy and art stuff maybe, but not painting. I just. I don't think I really know how to do anything besides comedy once in a while. In parallel park.
A
That's right. You're very good at parallel park.
B
Yes, I am, instinctually.
A
You do know numbers.
B
Because I don't know how to do anything. Even when, like, Jasmine gives me a chore, how to, like, build something or do something, and the instructions are right there. I cannot do it. So why. What is going on with me? How do I do a do over?
A
You don't need a do over. Remember, there are no mistakes. There's only lessons.
B
Yeah, only lessons. Lesson only learning.
A
Yeah.
B
No losses.
A
Coded. And by the way, if you're saying we are the simulated, me and you, because we don't understand this stuff, then that was all meant to happen.
B
That's what it is.
A
Here's the interesting thing.
B
Instinctually. Hedge.
A
Instinctually. Instinctually. You do know numbers, though. Because I swear to God, I don't know what it is. It's got to be German DNA. I've never seen a tighter, more better parallel parker. I mean, it's insane. Some of the shit you squeeze into.
B
I could squeeze it in big. Yeah.
A
I mean, it's crazy.
B
It's one in.
A
You know, the cameras are nothing. So instinctually, you have to know geometry or some. So, like, much like a dog who magically, instinctually can smell and get patterns through smell and can smell up to five miles away. AI will probably never be able to replicate that because it just. Instinctually, the math is in there in the DNA, where a dog, you know, they'll be able to create some electronic sensors and patterns and stuff, and they'll be able to mirror and copy what a dog could do. But nobody could smell like a dog. I don't think AI will ever be able to parallel park. Like, you just can't do it. I just don't think it'll be able to do it. So we do have some understanding of numbers. Maybe we just can't see them, but we do understand them, right? We do know two plus two equals four.
B
I know that two plus two equals four.
A
Yeah. So what? But Fibonacci, you know, and this also. Euclid was probably. The Greeks were like, the first, right? And nobody stole from anybody because at this time, it was more about building on the other. And thank God cultures communicated, because Euclid was like the first one that was playing around with this.
B
Euclides. Was it? Or was it called Euclid?
A
His name was Euclid. Which is a fucking cute name.
B
Which is a cute name. And it's also a horrific block in Brooklyn. Euclid Avenue. Be there. Bad dudes. Yeah.
A
You don't want to be on Euclid. You don't want to be on mlk.
B
No. Or Livonia Avenue is another bad One in Brooklyn. Yeah, yeah.
A
So. And then the Arabs got it, you know, during their glory years. And then the Hindus got it and they all built on it a little bit. And then Fibonacci just. He wrote the book, whatever it was called in Italian.
B
Liberace.
A
Liberace. And it spread. And it was about this sequence which is now named after him, the Fibonacci sequence, which is this sequence that miraculously is in everything. Spirals in the galaxy, sunflowers, DNA. I mean, the list goes on. And it's the same. Same exact equation, the same exact sequence, I should say, in everything. Which makes you think that it was designed, right. That this was. This was coded. Well, that math is a language of code. Because now we've created AI with complex math. So we've proven that intelligence arises through complex math, through zeros and ones.
B
But this is what I'm saying. Like, this is what I mean. So why do some people graphs math so easily? Like I could be sitting next to Fibonacci every day of his life and never see what he sees because he has a different computed brain than I do. So then we. I don't think we're all human. I think we're all have this meat vessel. Yeah, but I think. And we all call ourselves human, but I. I don't think that we're all the same anymore. I really don't. I don't think I have the same brain as a mathematician who can just see. He see Matteo Lane smells numbers because.
A
He, like I said, he's not distracted by. Right.
B
He's gay. Right. That's what it is.
A
I mean, look at the geniuses. Michelangelo, Leonardo Vintri. We don't know for sure, but we kind of do know.
B
Right?
A
Right. Hitler.
B
Right.
A
Gay.
B
Gay.
A
Harvey Feinstein.
B
Right.
A
Genius.
B
Yeah.
A
Mateo Lane. He can draw, he can think. My brother went to Oxford. Oxford. I mean, just not distracted and not influenced by those puny, smaller brains.
B
Got it.
A
Not distracted. So what you're basically saying is you're just a straight kid.
B
Yeah.
A
You're just a straight kid who picked up a basketball and shot over a Leroy Stack.
B
But even. Yes, that's true. But straight kids, like some of my straight, you know, friends who are like all builders who work up there, they built the World Trade center and all that. They could see numbers and they know, you know, how to measure two by fours and all that. I don't know how to do any of that. That.
A
Right.
B
So what's the reason?
A
Because we're straight fairies. Okay, so we're not Real men. And we're not man enough to be gay kids.
B
So we're in the middle, in betweeners. We're gray zones.
A
Yeah.
B
We're.
A
We're all. I think we're all the same species. I just think everyone's got different talents. And I think that was all maybe part of the game. Right. And opposites attract. Because here's an interesting thing. Now. Let's bring in some quantum physics.
B
Yeah.
A
Into this equation.
B
Yeah.
A
And then we'll talk about the law of opposites. And all of this stuff is connected. Right. The law of opposite.
B
And all this is going to prove. Giannis says that this means there is a God. Doesn't mean that it's the Catholic God, the Hindu God. We're not saying what religion. It's not about that. It's something. There's a creator, there's intention.
A
There was an intentional first mover.
B
Right. We're going to get to that.
A
Analogously, you can see that that's true by how we created AI.
B
Right.
A
Intelligence with intention. And we used complex math.
B
Right.
A
So. But it needs intention to set it in motion. There needs to be intent, conscious intention.
B
Yeah. And what.
A
Yeah, because there is what St. Thomas Aquinas thought, which is what Socrates and Aristotle rendered.
B
Yeah. And we're gonna get. Yeah. The unmoved mover, the first cause, first mover will explain it all. But I guess the only thing that does make me believe more, too, is through my research. You know, different philosophers have said throughout the beginning of time, and this is still true to this day, they said it 4,000 years ago. They said, in whatever time in history, 10,000 years from now, 10,000 years in the past, a million years from now, a million years in the past, you will never be able to prove concretely that there is a God. You will. You cannot prove it ever. On the same hand, you can never be able to prove at any moment in time that there isn't a God. Right. So you just can't ever prove it, ever. So that makes you feel like, well, then something must have created that.
A
But we may get there because we're getting close now. Right? So here's the whole argument that was that atheists used to make intelligent design. That's not possible.
B
Right, Right.
A
It's not the thing.
B
I'm not an atheist. I'm a gay theist.
A
You're a gaytheist?
B
Yeah. I don't believe that there's a gay, because I am one.
A
So they would say, intelligent design. That's impossible. Oh, there's a man in the sky that created all this. That's all bullshit. Blah, blah, blah. So they would say, it's just. It is what it is. Things are the way they are. There's no intelligence. It's just random. Blah. But now we have mirrored the universe and created intelligence strictly through complex math.
B
But. But wouldn't somebody. Wouldn't people say. Wouldn't the argument there be, we're just creating the mirror image of what we.
A
Are already we're creating the marriage of what we are. Right, exactly. So. But we created it.
B
Right?
A
We created intelligence. So intelligent design is now a fact.
B
Right.
A
You can. And how did we do it? Using math.
B
Right.
A
So you look at the universe, you look at biology, you look at the Fibonacci sequence. It's in everything. In anatomy, in fucking walnuts. And, you know.
B
Is the Fibonacci sequence in AI coding.
A
It's in everything.
B
Right.
A
It's in everything. It's. It's all complex math and equations and the universe. And the reason why the evidence points because.
B
Are you sweating or did you put on a dirty shirt?
A
No, I'm sweating.
B
Okay.
A
The reason why it looks like you.
B
Have eight nipples of pregnant pit bull.
A
The. The evidence that it was designed.
B
Wait, tell me about the evidence right after this commercial break from something we.
A
Don'T know until we find out what it is. Yeah.
B
We just automatically say yes to any ad YMH sends us because they haven't been sending us as many ads as we deserve.
A
Yeah. And buy it if it's relevant to you. And if it's not, it's up to you to check cleared.
B
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A
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B
That's the one.
A
Yeah, I got that. Those two hoodies we got. It's like. It's so comfortable.
B
It's literally. It's. Is it cashmere? I don't know what it is.
A
It's a material that makes. It just makes you go pewing.
B
It's really cute and soft and especially now coming into fall. I'm telling you, this sweater that I have is the most comfortable sweater. Sweater I've ever owned.
A
I love it. Yeah.
B
The thing. And I look cute in it.
A
Yeah. It's literally these are quality, quality clothes.
B
Yeah.
A
And you could get them just by going to Quince. They have all types of fall staples right now that you'll wear nonstop. Like super soft, 100% Mongolian cashmere. So the DNA.
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Yes.
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B
Yeah. Genghis Khan.
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Genghis Khan is in there. He gave birth to these shirts.
B
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Yeah.
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It's 70 bucks.
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High quality, high fashion.
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A
Your celebrity friend, who half the country doesn't like uses it. You figure out who that is.
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A
So if you look at math, if you look at the universe and anything was off by the. I mean infinitely small amount, the whole universe would collapse.
B
Right.
A
So it's all perfect. Like if it was off just. I can't even emphasize our brains.
B
Can't even. Just a squeak. It's smaller than a squeak.
A
Even smaller than Stevie Rice. A Roni.
B
Yeah.
A
I'm talking about. That's tiny.
B
Yeah.
A
It was often the whole thing wouldn't. Would just collapse.
B
Right.
A
And then you have the law of opposites. Right. Where you go, everything has its opposite. Right. Everything even matter. There's antimatter, positive Newton. You have electrons, protons. They're the opposite. Right. So then you have mortality. So it must be immortal. And we Know that there is. Right. And I'll tell you how we know that there is there. The Platonic realm exists, right? It's named after Plato. But the Platonic realm is where idea. Ideas are perfect ideas, right? We take those ideas, we impregnate them into reality, and they're never exactly like the idea because of the laws of reality. For example, mathematically, the perfect circle exists as an idea, but once you implement it into reality and manifest it, it's no longer mathematically the perfect circle, because it can't be.
B
So you can't make a perfect circle.
A
Cannot make it. There are no perfect circles. But the idea. Idea exists. And. And the idea of a perfect circle exists whether we exist or not. It just is.
B
Right.
A
It's just there.
B
Yeah.
A
So that's an im. That's immortality. That's immortal, that circle. The idea of a circle is immortal. When you're dreaming or having ideas, what is that? That's not that. That's not based on finitude. That's not subject to laws of growing, peaking, and decaying. That's not. It's just ideas. Ideas, right? They're. They're. They're infinite. They don't die or are born. They're just there. So the evidence is pointing to our brains being more of a sensor that can get in touch with this infinite realm where these ideas and math exists.
B
So the brain, right now, we didn't. Sensing everything.
A
Yeah. We didn't create math because the equations are there. We didn't create the equations. We just. We discovered them.
B
You were saying there's no discovery. There's only decovering. Not discovery, only decoupy.
A
We didn't create it. We didn't go, oh, I want to create, create. You know, Matt, it was there.
B
Something else created it.
A
Something else. Either. Here's the thing, we're at the point where it either is God or whatever you want to call it, and it created itself, and it just is. Or something created it. There's no other option because we know it's there.
B
Right.
A
We know that the Fibonacci sequence is used to create it or describe it, whatever you want.
B
Even there, even the Fibonacci Sequence, even Fibonacci himself, he didn't discover all this from the sequence.
A
I'm going to church tomorrow with Joe Rogan.
B
Yeah. Do you think this is why Rogan has probably found himself in church? Because through all his studies and all the people that he interviews, he's probably discovering this, decovering this, like it must be true.
A
I think we're all getting to that point, which is very ironic, which is, you know, is kind of the oxymoron of life, right. The more advanced we get, and we're going, like, back to the beginning and.
B
Going like, oh, yeah, they were right.
A
Oh, my God. Yeah.
B
I mean, yeah, I'm going to start beheading people.
A
Yeah. Like, they had all these crazy myths and stuff like that, but they weren't stupid people. We look back at them and we judge them because we have refrigerators and stuff. But you're going like, something happened, right? So you go, even with Jesus, right? And I'm not saying he was the son of God. I don't know any of that. But something happened that made those people. Like, he must have been a really, like, pure dude at the very least, and he must have been tapped into something. And maybe he was like a Buddhist or like, he was one of those. How about those monks that set themselves on fire who've transcended from fear? I mean, like, right? You're going like, these are people who are in control of their nervous system, their amygdala so much that they've transcended fire and are in touch with this infinite thing or whatever. I mean, it was something about that dude that made people change, have change of hearts and go spread. Like. So he was probably one of these just very special dudes who was, like, very spiritual and could, like, read you and stuff and made people bug out because he was, like, in touch with something. So I don't think people had the math and things to explain it back then, but they instinctually knew it. Just like the way you know how to park, right? Like, instinctually knew that, like, there's something bigger. We're part of something bigger. Now we know energy is never created or destroyed. It just changes form. So what?
B
You know, that's what I'm saying. So do we ever really die, then? If we have so much energy inside ourselves, we die. We die. But we can't. The energy has to go somewhere.
A
Jesse will be. Be a part of a worm.
B
Yeah.
A
We turn into carbon dioxide. We turn. There's energy. There's energy. So MA equals MC squared, right? It's like, so when you break an atom, energy is released it. So there's energy in all this that makes matter come together. It cools. It comes together. But in us is just energy, right? We're just full of energy.
B
Right?
A
And for you, it's like a gimmick cookie.
B
That's what it is.
A
For me, it's like, I Want feet?
B
Yeah. I wear Jesse.
A
It's like, show me a fat person of fate.
B
Yeah.
A
With Nick, it's like, Figaro, Figaro, Figaro. To be or not to be. Thou art thou.
B
With Nick, he's like, make me a gay woman in Uruguay. Yeah.
A
Everyone's got their thing. Yeah. With Tim Dillon, it's like, give me a pokeball.
B
Yeah.
A
People have energy that's moving them forward.
B
Right.
A
Right.
B
What it is.
A
Okay, now here's another thing I want to say. Tell me just before. Hold your thought, though. I don't want to cut you off, but I just want to finish this talk.
B
I want you to tell me about St. Thomas Aquinas.
A
Yeah. But I also want to tell you.
B
Called St. Thomas Aqu. Aqua. Anus. That's how you typed it. And you typed it seven times like that. I did.
A
But then you got quantum physics. When you marry all these things, you're starting to say something's going on here. Right. And I. Look, I. It may be that we're not supposed to know. Right. And, like, whatever. And maybe this doesn't get anywhere, but just. It's starting to get a little weird when you look at quantum physics. Right. So it's the observed particle. Kind of oxymoron.
B
Yes, I.
A
Very interesting.
B
You talked to me about it. Then I did a little bit of research, but again, I didn't understand. So tell me about. Yeah.
A
And this is really weird for Jesse because Jesse's a hardcore atheist.
B
Not true.
A
Not anymore.
B
No, no, no. I'm agnostic.
A
Agnostic.
B
Which is. And what's the difference again? What is agnostic? Just don't know.
A
I just don't know.
B
But you. But you would acknowledge something's there. No, I just don't know. I don't know.
A
But you have to say some of the things I'm saying are fascinating. 100%.
B
Yeah. It's very.
A
This can't be denied. Right. So it's like, then.
B
Quantum.
A
Quantum physics. In fact, I was the one who.
B
Told you about this.
A
About which one?
B
The quantum physics verse.
A
The theory of general relativity.
B
Yeah.
A
When we had that long discussion. This is the type of things we do when we hang out.
B
Yeah.
A
We don't talk about girls anymore. We talk about particles.
B
Particles. Yeah.
A
So I want some feet for breakfast.
B
So I want to put coconut yogurt on feet. Yeah.
A
Cause some fan saw that. I like the. I like the foot pit. And he DM me and he said. And he screenshot it.
B
Yeah. You just gotta be careful.
A
But here's the deal. He thought it was footpeg, which it was.
B
Yeah.
A
But it's just a seven foot former basketball player from the Soviet Union.
B
Yeah.
A
Who makes videos about her height.
B
Yeah.
A
She just happened to have socks and shoes off.
B
Yeah, it is. Yeah, yeah.
A
So this is what it is.
B
Yeah, yeah.
A
So the observed. What's it called? The observation prediction. They can predict the movement of particles.
B
In quantum physics and they can predict the, the. The orbit of planets in general relativity. But quantum physics doesn't work in general.
A
Relativity and general relativity doesn't work in quantum physics.
B
And that's all I know.
A
Can you, can you pull up the observed particle? Observed effect?
B
Yeah, because. Because let me just try to explain it in layman's terms and I probably am getting this wrong. But it's basically the observer particle effect is basically saying that particles. Nothing really starts to do anything unless. Unless somebody, some. Unless it gets energy directed at it. So in other words, unless you look at it. So when I'm looking at observing a particle, I'll see it doing all this stuff.
A
Right. Like when I look at you, you go peeling. But before I look at you, you're not.
B
I'm not puing. Yeah. Well no. Well, no, because here's the thing. Well, what the observer particle effect, I believe would say is when you look at me, I go pewing. I'm going pewing, pewing, poing. But before you look at me, if you look over there, I'm simultaneously puing and not puing.
A
Right.
B
I'm just existing in the middle. Right. I'm a semi pure.
A
Wow. This is actually a really good way to describe it.
B
Yeah. When you at me, I'm pure.
A
Exactly.
B
Yeah.
A
You get to tingle when you look at me.
B
Cuz when you look at you're. I'm right here. I'm in the middle. I'm having fun. Having fun. Peing. Maybe ping. Maybe not pouring. I'm just in the middle having fun. And then as soon as you look at me, I'm PE.
A
To do that.
B
What you'll do, Jesse, is just put a big hyena over on potato.com history. Yeah, I wasn't say by the way, I didn't.
A
You're autistic.
B
Yeah. Yeah.
A
You met your heart was going out to the world.
B
Yeah.
A
Because you got severe autism.
B
Yeah. It's what is. But is that correct in some ways? How?
A
I mean, you nailed it in a hyenas type way.
B
Yeah.
A
For our fans who are fucking stupid just like us.
B
Yeah. It's what it is.
A
Yeah. So yeah. It's basically that it's like it exists.
B
It exists.
A
It doesn't exist. And that's what they use for coding, zero and ones. Right. And that's why. That was what was so smart about the fucking. The sanders and the laser beams, right? Is they. They. They said zero is very important as like a play placeholder. Right. Nothing's there, but without it, you can't build anything on it. Just like the space in the universe, there's nothing there, but you need the space in the universe for matter to be there. So zero is the most important number. It's like a. It's.
B
And Roman numerals don't even have it. Right.
A
Even have. The Romans didn't have it.
B
Yeah, that's why. It's why they die.
A
That's why they were off the beam.
B
Yeah, but.
A
So it's like a bowl. You need it. You need the zero to put blueberries.
B
You can't just put. Yeah, because you can't just put Cheerios and milk in my hands.
A
Yeah, Right. It needs to. So zero is the bowl.
B
Yeah.
A
And coding is just zeros and ones. So it pops in and out of existence. In and out of existence. But then. So then when it's observed, and not with your eyes, but when humans measure the particle, it changes, right? It changes. Almost like. Almost like the particles are fucking having a party and they're like. Maybe an orgy. Maybe they're looking at trans porn.
B
Whatever.
A
Right? They're looking at. It's like. It's like when a guy looks at trans porn and then his mom comes down.
B
Yeah.
A
He changes.
B
Yeah.
A
So that's what they do.
B
Every part different.
A
They're doing something naughty.
B
Yeah.
A
And then their mom comes home, and then they turn the laptop down, just what it is. And they act like everything's.
B
How many times did your mom come home unexpectedly and you have to put your jeans on over her fishnet stockings because it was too late. And you got caught in the middle. And you're talking to her. Maybe she's even asking you how your homework was and just sitting there in her fishnet.
A
I got caught only by my father once.
B
Yeah.
A
And he never talked about. And I think it's the only time I did it, because after that I was like, what am I doing? I'm six and I'm wearing.
B
Those are your father's last words on the deathbed. He said fishnets, and then he went down. And then the kid. So the kid. So your pops right now is just. He's just having. He's in there in The. So right now, your pops, his particles have transcended, and he's in what we call heaven. But what we call heaven could just be just another realm of existence for our energy. That's possible, too, right?
A
Maybe the consciousness goes someplace.
B
That's what I'm saying.
A
The meat, like the energy from the meat vessel goes into. Well, we know it turns into carbon.
B
Yeah.
A
Turns then maggots.
B
Yeah.
A
It goes into their food.
B
What you and I were speaking about a couple of weeks ago, where maybe it's just when someone dies, like your pops died in your reality, but he's alive in another reality still.
A
Yeah. Because they also think that these black holes could be like a. I'm happy.
B
You said holes, because you came out with some steam when you said. You also say that these. Black. And then you said holes. Quick, quickly. And I'm happy about that.
A
Whatever you say black, you just. The next word's got to be a good one.
B
Quick. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Louis CK's got that great bit where he's like every. Anytime you say black, like, you can't. You can't clear your throat. Like, you can't be like these black. You know? Yeah. And then he says, like a. A nice word. I forgot the bit.
A
Yeah, you got it. Yeah. You have to make sure that it's. It's. It's another. It's a softening word.
B
Yeah. Because you said. Because I thought you were. You were ramping up black.
A
These goddamn black holes.
B
Holes. Right, right, right. Yeah.
A
Infinite density in there. So what they theorize is it may be like a. Just like the Big Bang, where all this matter was just condensed in this tiny, infinitely small thing and then burst out.
B
Right.
A
Because a prime mover or something said, tickle, tickle, tickle. And then that's.
B
And that.
A
Think that maybe the black hole is doing that and then shooting out another universe somewhere else. So maybe there's infinite amount of universes.
B
That are happening all at once, and maybe you just. When you die in this one, you just go to the next universe. Yeah.
A
Or something like that.
B
But St. Thomas Aquinas, who. You know, who's got a great college up there in Rockland County. St. Thomas Aquinas, who lived from 1225 to 1274. So around the time of Fibonacci. During the time of Fibonacci, which is interesting that these two people. I don't know that they necessarily knew each other or knew each other's work, but also they were kind of thinking about the same thing.
A
Yeah.
B
So you wonder what was going on.
A
What was in the water? What was in the water back then?
B
Because Christians, you know, he took what.
A
Was in the Smithtown water.
B
Aristotle's. You know, Aristotle, who lived in 384 to 322 BC he was the first one to talk about the concept of the unmoved mover in metaphysics. So he saw the prime mover as pure actuality, actuality necessary, eternal, and the ultimate cause of motion in the universe. His view was more philosophical than religious. He would say the prime mover contemplates itself, not a personal creator, God. Now, St. Thomas, of course, Aquinas Christianized Aristotle's belief where he said, unlike aristotle's detached being, St. Thomas's Aquinas's God is personal, actively sustaining creation and central to Christian theology. So I guess St. Thomas Aquinas was saying, you know, like, you have your own personalized vert. Like you, you. Whatever you think God is, they are.
A
Right.
B
Is that what St. Thomas Aquinas is saying? Where Aristotle was saying that's not true. He was just saying, you know, the prime mover doesn't even think about itself.
A
Exactly.
B
Like. So St. Thomas is saying it does. Aristotle saying it does.
A
Yeah. That's basically.
B
You're a Greek. You're saying the prime mover does. Think about it.
A
I don't know. I have no idea. I have no clue. I don't know if you're supposed to know. But I do know my mind is blown when I learned about Fibonacci. And then it's just all these connections started happening. You go, the law of opposites, quantum physics, these things. What I do know is symbiosis is a thing. Right. And I do know that you can see like Russian dolls, all these truths in analogies. Right. Like we dream in metaphors. And then analogously, you can, you can induct that. Wow. If we created AI then maybe the whole universe was created by either it's a. It's a computer simulation or a biological physical simul. Whatever. But maybe there was a prime mover who did that. And also things act on each other. Right? Gravity. When you think about it, gravity is every everything with mass acting on each other, holding everything into place. Again, magically perfect mathematically. Right, Right. So it's like a speck of dust has. Everything is. It's not just gravity. People think gravity keeps you on the floor and it's like comes down. But no, it's everything with mass is acting on each other. So symbiosis is. And balance is what the universe is always striving. And life, or whatever you want to call it, is always striving, striving for. And when we're alone, we're one person, right? We're wild and free and unformed. 0101. You're in a brain. You're like, oh, feet. Oh, transcock. What does that mean? Oh, the Yankees. What's going on? When's Debo gonna call? My mom's coming over. I want a cookie. I want to take a bath. Let me call Yanni. I gotta figure this out. I want to play theaters.
B
I want a Tesla solar roof.
A
Yeah, your brain's just going crazy. But then when you. You come with your friend, something hap. You form into something like me and you. When we're alone, we're different. Then we get together and it's like even started creating this cadence and things that.
B
It only exists with us.
A
It exists when we get together and we go college. I would just start acting like retard.
B
So it's all in us. So. So.
A
So it's like you need simple, you need to. To form. You need the energy of something else, right? And then when you're have that, you're kind of here and not here. Here and not here. So it's an interesting thing, right? Is this blowing your mind? Are you getting uncomfortable?
B
No. Yeah, a little bit. My nipple starting to itch.
A
I'll just make it comfortable for you. God is Catholic.
B
Yeah.
A
What happened to you? A Father Bill was written. It's supposed to happen. It set you emotion. It was the prime mover that set you up. It was a little firecracker that went your. That set you into orbit. It into comedy clubs and into my arms.
B
It's what it is. And that's why I'm happy to be here. Cousin. I am the prime mover because I've moved nine times and I'm selling my house.
A
I want to go to Riverdale.
B
I want to go to Riverdale big. And. And somebody emailed us because we kept forgetting to read their names and they're $25 members. So I just want to shout out on the Patreon German Marco Polo, AKA Frisbee. Finder so said that we kept missing the name. So I just wanted to say there it is.
A
It's a good one.
B
Yeah. And of course that would be on the list.
A
Should we just put that on the list or. Where would that be?
B
That's. I don'. I. There's. I guess we miss them sometimes. I don't know. But I know that all the Fun happens@patreon.com history hyenas. We got the greatest. We got. We read the names live at our latest live show at Stanford Newark Comedy Club at Stanford. So you can hear those names now. And then we have our next live show September 22nd in New York City at the Comedy Cellar. And we are going to talk to you about the leakiest roof ever@patreon.com historyainas and I'm going to read the text between me and Yannis. So go there. Write right now.
A
Yeah.
B
Not an ep, not a week. Have an actual pen I want. Because one of our favorite parts of the show is the list. We got people that don't know. Our real Fun happens@patreon.com history hyenas.
A
Right.
B
And so we. We always leave newest members of the matriarchy. We have fun doing at the studio, but we have the bones front. When we do it live for an audience, it gets wild because you guys can help us pick out who you think the the best person is. They call it the ppw. The pseudo penis of the week is how he Pseudo penises. And I'd like to stick one in your ear though. So. Okay, so we'll read them out. Some names are just regular names. Those people want to remain basically anonymous. They want to go straight to the pack. Okay. Wife, stick this one in your ass. Oh, I got the golden pen. That's why. Oh, okay. I appreciate that. Thank you. Okay, here we go. Welcome to the matriarchy. Now some of you may be here, I don't know. But leading off the list, we have come Guzzler, Not a Hustler.
A
Drexler. You guys are going to decide by your response.
B
You know, then we got Yo. How the F. My aunt molested my uncle and not me. I was a smoke show.
A
That's when you roll out the catapult.
B
Right? Right. Then we got Luke Abigail. Then we got finally watch Disney's Coco and make no mistake, not a single person got credit cracked open or cleaned out. That was you. That was a good name, dude. That was a good thing. Sorry, I didn't get response. It's a good direction and it's good and I really appreciate your. Your four year olds. Nick Hoffman, Baby Face Caleb, Hunter, Gralos, Diano Arroyo, Ben Dalton, Steel Willie. Then we got. There were no Leroids on EP's list because Carnival Cruise didn't stop there.
A
Holy.
B
Wow. I'm telling you right now, it's going to be tough to beat. Very difficult to beat down. I Don't know. A Leroy comes off their way to name saying that for black people. Because we were. This guy's putting his arm around his girlfriend. No, it's because my father used to call Black Coffee and my neighbor Coffee Leroy. And it was fun and black. Everybody used to laugh about it, even the black guys. Because my dad had one of his best friend black guy. His name was Leroy. So that's what Leroy is. It's a black guy. And that's a really good picture. But if you're a big fan, you.
A
Know they can also be referred to as nambi.
B
That's right. White people were snow monkeys and D monkeys. So we have all different sauce. We have name for every race. It's not. We're not singling people out. No. Chinese spy monkeys. Sean dwi, Zachary Tanner. Nathanielson, Vienna Julia Louie. Dry Fist.
A
See, now that's the definition of a Drexler. Because that's a really good one.
B
Yes. Jack Steers. Brendan. Brett Rice. Ralph Jose. Kaden Diller. Chauncey Cole.
A
Just wanted to work that word in there.
B
No running. Rusty Tate. Who? Inspector Charlie Usnitz. Urethra Franklin. We've had in your Urethra. Urethra Franklin. It's funny. Yeah. Brittany jj, Peter Papas. Giannis has brought others on. Nicholas Campos. Imagine you signed up for Fireeye. That's it. Cody Stewart. Taylor, Thiel Willow. Cerilian Geppetto. Nice to see he's here. Then we got. I've Got Puffy Nipples, but now I'm on keto. Okay. Arnold Schwarzer Lero made. Has Zyklon D fumes. You gotta repeat that. Arnold Schwarzer Leroy has Zyclin B Fumes. Cyclin B. I think it's A. I think that is the gas. Using the Holocaust.
A
We don't. That is not okay.
B
Security.
A
We walked into that one. That's not good.
B
Rossy. Snow Monkey from down Undy. We did a Jenny too, but we don't talk about it all that much. Delaney, okay. Had a genocide in their culture.
A
Right?
B
Okay. Conor McGregor's two pound dumbbell.
A
To his dad. I mean, that's a Drexler, I think. Nobody's going to beat the carnival.
B
It's just one of the guys. Don't invite me to the wedding. Chrissy. I got Pedro Pascal. Social anxiety. He's going to be touching a lot of girls. Carlos Lumeta yams. Then we got Chuka Shits with Rasputin. Now My hole's forever. Poop.
A
That up the list. You know these are sympathy lists.
B
Yeah. Well, you never know. That's. Never know.
A
You never know.
B
Kurt Cobain's Abstract Ceiling Art llc.
A
Oh, that's another contender. That is a really good. Yeah, that's right. See, I thought it was. I thought it was over, but you never know.
B
Sauce Monkey Peas. Who toots in real life? Matzoba. Then we got the Jim Crow Glow. Sponsored by Sephora. It's a pillow.
A
I walked into one. It's a dress, though.
B
Okay. Eric hom. Sure. $20. $20. Bill. Leroy. Welcome. Just few more names. Then we got Alex Dosfit. Then we got. Couldn't impale her, so call me Graham Stroker. Jerks off. Just a bag. Feed 15 ditches 14. Blake, Philip McRemsey. Trey Gay. Jason Dill. Mark Flores. My wife's Leroy boyfriend. Told me I could say it. Andre Garcia, Kevin Bark. Osama and Obama really try to get her.
A
How creative have they gotten to get her past Christy.
B
Slick. I bought during World War II. Security, please escort this person out of the store. Roberto, Adam. Then we got one nut and uncut. It's interesting. Then we got Anna King Ruiz. Then we got. Had to send her back to the island because she laughed at my jizz lanes. Max swelled. He went for it. The Grainers. Caleb Stoops, Nate. Zack Smith, Quasimodo. Simon Whalen. Call him Chrissy Poseidon. The way he makes Yanni Cyclops. All C1 Nukem. Luke Cameron Levesque. Then we got. I went out. Wait, I went out net fishing. And all I caught was a master bait. Giannis. Too many. Yeah, it's bad. We've got too many letters. Yeah, Sorry, Taliban. Sponsored by Manscape. Hashtag Fuck Bush.
A
That's a goodie, man. Yeah, we get a chicken figure.
B
That situation. The mother situation. The mother got me moving too many vegetables. Give me some green to put my peen in between. Yo, Cosby. Level REM sleep.
A
That's a goodie. That is a good night's sleep. That is a deep, deep sleep.
B
That's. That's on the list.
A
It's Portal Life. Walked in throwing that one on.
B
Jacob Sardis. Selman Ladd. Joseph Cs. Kamala Harris, aka Goop Scoop. Connoisseur. Billy for the table. Keon. I'm just the FF2 standing in front of the TBG asking him to swim through. And Coco, Bad hood, handyman. AKA Fixing. Leroy. Ceiling crickets. The ceiling cricket has become like your Colt Pinsburg. Yeah, we're going to. Well, you gotta let them have fun. They love Lawrence of Alamia. James Briggs, Mitchell Jason Plip, plip, plip, plip. Please, Sydney Sweeney, step on my nuts. The kid is reaching out. One of these kids. Yeah. It's gotta know that kid is just.
A
Throwing that out to the universe.
B
Yeah.
A
Who are podcast.
B
Yes.
A
I'm gonna give him a chicken finger.
B
Okay, Ryan Goldstrant, how's your bean? Oscar Mike, Carlo Chris Real Bolt, lock and key. And then last but not least, Hitler's number one draft pick.
A
Security.
B
Ready for the list? I'm gonna read them all. Took a schnitz with Rasputin. Now my hole's forever. Putin. Critical Baines. Abstract Ceiling art. Elaborate. Sticking around. Bill Cosby, Level REM Sleep.
A
Andrew Huberman never talks about that. Level of nothing to Drex LS Yo.
B
How the F. My aunt molested my uncle and knocked me. I was a smoke show.
A
That's got to stick around. That's got to stick around.
B
There were no Leros on F's list because Carnival Bruce didn't stop in. You know what we're going to call that?
A
That one was a LeBron James. We just invented a new one with this. Meaning it came out early and it lived up to the hype.
B
Thank you. Thanks for the.
A
Thank you so much, everybody. Thank you.
Hosted by Chris Distefano & Yannis Pappas | September 4, 2025
In their trademark irreverent style, Chris Distefano and Yannis Pappas dive into the fascinating world of the Fibonacci sequence, its eerie appearance in nature, mathematics, and art, and how it leads them to riff on everything from the existence of God to the role of autistic geniuses throughout history. With side-splitting tangents and philosophical musings, the Hyenas pull apart the mysteries of the “Golden Ratio” and discuss how patterns in math (and even personal quirks) might hint at something bigger or someone—maybe an autistic God—behind it all.
Chris opens up about feeling off and insecure, prompting a heartwarming, hysterical exchange about self-confidence and depression.
Segue into the math theme: Chris jokes his face "does not have the golden ratio." (00:55)
The duo riffs on the name "Fibonacci," issuing various, often ethnically-charged, nicknames ("Fikonacci," "Figure Nazi").
Discussion of how Fibonacci, or Leonardo of Pisa, traveled and learned advanced mathematics from Arabic and Hindu traditions and helped introduce Arabic numerals and new mathematical ideas to Europe.
Notable Quote:
Yannis bridges from Fibonacci and golden ratio to “the law of opposites,” quantum physics, and the impossibility of proving—or disproving—God.
AI as analogy for divine creation:
Platonic ideals and the immortality of mathematical truths:
Chris: "Do we ever really die, then? If we have so much energy inside ourselves..." (49:46)
On God as an autistic mathematician
On existential anxiety in the modern age
On mathematical inevitability
On AI and intentionality
| Timestamp | Segment | |-----------|---------| | 00:55–04:46 | Chris & Yannis set the emotional, comedic stage and connect feelings to the episode’s theme | | 09:46–15:34 | Introduction of Fibonacci’s story and medieval math’s global journey | | 34:07–36:27 | Golden ratio explained and Chris’s confessed math anxiety | | 40:00–49:57 | Philosophical dive into God, quantum physics, and eternity | | 58:01–59:31 | Aquinas, Aristotle, and first cause argument unpacked | | 50:52–56:32 | Layman’s explanation of quantum mechanics and observer effect | | 61:09–62:09 | Gravity, balance, and science as metaphors for friendship & existence |
If you want a heady, funny, non-traditional look at the golden ratio, the mysteries of the universe, and the comic possibilities of math, science, history, and their relationship with human frailty (and horniness), this one is a must-listen. Chris and Yannis cut through intimidating concepts, distilling centuries of math philosophy into riff-heavy, hilarious musings—anchoring the whole wild trip in the Fibonacci sequence’s mysterious pervasiveness.
For more madness, bonus content, and riffing, join their "Kazmunity" at patreon.com/historyhyenas.