Hot Money War w/ China

Summary

History Hyenas: Hot Money War w/ China – Detailed Summary

Episode Release Date: April 10, 2025
Hosts: Chris Distefano and Yannis Pappas
Podcast Title: History Hyenas

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1. Introduction to Tariffs: Historical Foundations

Yannis Pappas (00:00) opens the episode with a humorous take on tariffs, introducing tariffs as a pivotal economic tool. Chris DiStefano (00:11) humorously underscores their intent to demystify tariffs, blending historical insights with comedy.

Chris (02:03) delves into the origins of tariffs, highlighting Alexander Hamilton as the architect of the first American tariffs in the 1790s. He explains that Hamilton instituted tariffs to generate revenue for the fledgling federal government, which lacked federal income taxes at the time. This move was also intended to promote domestic manufacturing post the American Revolutionary War against Britain.

"Alexander Hamilton was the first guy to say, it all starts here. You know, he was the first guy to do Make America Great again."
— Chris DiStefano (02:58)

2. Tariffs and Early American Conflicts

The discussion shifts to the Tariff of Abominations (1828), which exacerbated tensions between the industrial North and the agrarian South. Chris (10:26) explains that the tariff favored northern industries by imposing high taxes on imported goods, which the Southern states opposed because they relied on exporting raw materials like cotton and importing manufactured goods.

Chris (10:35) humorously addresses the regional dissent, noting:

"The South really opposed these tariffs because they relied on imported goods and exported raw materials like cotton and tobacco because that's what their slaves were there for."

This economic discord contributed to the growing fault lines leading to the War of 1812 and eventually the Civil War. Yannis (12:10) highlights the role of John C. Calhoun, Andrew Jackson’s vice president, who advocated for states' rights and secession in response to federal tariffs.

3. Tariffs Through the Centuries: From FDR to Smoot-Hawley

Chris (15:04) transitions to the 20th century, discussing Franklin D. Roosevelt’s Reciprocal Trade Agreements Act (1934). This act marked a shift from unilateral tariffs to bilateral trade agreements aimed at reducing tariffs and fostering international cooperation post-World War II.

The conversation then moves to the infamous Smoot-Hawley Tariff (1930), which Chris (16:02) criticizes for exacerbating the Great Depression. He explains that the Smoot-Hawley Tariff raised import duties significantly, leading to retaliatory tariffs and a steep decline in international trade.

"The Smoot Hawley Tariff does... raise tariffs sky high prices, isolate the U.S., trigger trade wars, and hurt U.S. exports. It failed big."
— Chris DiStefano (16:45)

4. Modern Trade Agreements and the WTO

Yannis (29:42) and Chris (30:01) explore the evolution of trade agreements, emphasizing the role of the World Trade Organization (WTO) established in 1995. They describe the WTO as a global body intended to regulate international trade, resolve disputes, and promote fair trade practices. However, they humorously critique the WTO’s limited enforcement capabilities, likening it to a "WWE referee" with minimal authority.

"It's a referee in a WWE wrestling match. They got no authority."
— Chris DiStefano (36:15)

5. The US-China Trade War: Past Meets Present

The core of the episode centers on the modern US-China trade war, drawing historical parallels with past tariff conflicts. Chris (02:03) references Trump's initiation of tariffs on Chinese goods to address national security concerns and counteract China’s trade practices.

Yannis (54:15) and Chris (56:15) discuss the retaliatory nature of these tariffs, noting that while Trump aggressively imposed tariffs to protect American industries, China responded with its own tariffs, leading to decreased international trade and higher prices for American consumers.

"If you have all your money in the stock market right now and it's going way down and you need that money, then yes, probably that's nerve-inducing."
— Chris DiStefano (19:12)

6. Economic Impacts and Future Outlook

Chris (17:54) reassures listeners by contextualizing the current trade war within historical trends, suggesting that despite short-term economic pain, tariffs can lead to long-term economic growth. He emphasizes the importance of diversification in investments, advocating for bonds as a safer alternative during turbulent times.

Yannis (53:13) raises concerns about the potential for economic interdependence to prevent war, but Chris (54:44) warns that escalating tariffs could reignite historical conflicts and lead to economic fragmentation.

The hosts conclude by reflecting on the broader implications of trade wars, such as the rise of economic blocs like BRICS (Brazil, Russia, India, China, and South Africa) and the shifting dynamics of global trade alliances.

7. Humorous Interludes and Community Engagement

Throughout the episode, Chris and Yannis intersperse their analysis with comedic banter, humorous anecdotes, and playful interactions. They engage listeners by reading out funny supporter names, mocking current events, and promoting their Patreon community for exclusive content.

"We are an only fans and podcast economy. So go out there and shake your ass or open your mouth, babe."
— Yannis Pappas (56:15)

Conclusion: Navigating Trade Wars with Humor and History

In "Hot Money War w/ China," History Hyenas blend historical analysis with their signature humor to demystify the complexities of tariffs and trade wars. By drawing parallels between past and present, Chris Distefano and Yannis Pappas provide listeners with a comprehensive understanding of how tariffs have shaped, and continue to influence, global economic landscapes. Their comedic approach makes intricate economic topics accessible and entertaining, ensuring that even those unfamiliar with the subject can grasp the key concepts and implications.

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Notable Quotes:

• “Alexander Hamilton was the first guy to say, it all starts here. You know, he was the first guy to do Make America Great again.”
  — Chris DiStefano (02:58)

• “It's a referee in a WWE wrestling match. They got no authority.”
  — Chris DiStefano (36:15)

• “If you have all your money in the stock market right now and it's going way down and you need that money, then yes, probably that's nerve-inducing.”
  — Chris DiStefano (19:12)

• “We are an only fans and podcast economy. So go out there and shake your ass or open your mouth, babe.”
  — Yannis Pappas (56:15)

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Timestamp Highlights:

• 00:00-00:48: Introduction to the episode and comedic banter.
• 02:03-04:43: Origins of tariffs with Alexander Hamilton and early US economic policies.
• 10:26-12:10: Tariffs leading to regional tensions and the Tariff of Abominations.
• 15:04-19:58: Evolution of tariffs through the 20th century, including Smoot-Hawley and FDR’s policies.
• 29:42-36:39: Formation and critique of the WTO.
• 36:47-54:15: Modern US-China trade war and economic implications.
• 56:15-73:42: Humorous interludes, community engagement, and wrapping up key points.

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Disclaimer: The hosts, Chris Distefano and Yannis Pappas, infuse humor and satire into their discussions. While they provide historical and economic insights, listeners should consult professional sources for financial advice.

Transcript

[Giannis Pappas]

Hello everyone, my name is Giannis Pappas and I'm joined by my co host, Christopher DiStefano, where two Christian kids wearing Christian hats gonna talk about tariffs.

[Christopher DiStefano]

Tariffs. We're coming to you live from China because that's where it's safe. We're gonna talk to you, tell you the history of tariffs. We're gonna speed up all the way into what's happening in present day America. And we're just two kids who are really not that smart, but really not that dumb. And we're gonna break down tariffs and how it affects you.

[Giannis Pappas]

Smart or dumb is really a matter of opinion.

[Christopher DiStefano]

That's what it is.

[Giannis Pappas]

So depending on your intellectual capabilities, you'll be watching this going, you're smart or you're dumb.

[Christopher DiStefano]

And it's what it is. And we, if you watch this from.

[Giannis Pappas]

China, you're gonna go, they're dumb, they're dumb. If you're watching this from America, you're gonna go, he's a smart kid.

[Christopher DiStefano]

Here's what I could tell you, absolutely 100%, with 100% certainty right now, is that this will not be on the TikTok in China, but it will be on the Tick Tock in the United States.

[Giannis Pappas]

It absolutely will be. And can we just stop beating around the bush? When you look at all the Ivy League, which are our finest institutions, I mean, Chinese kids to Ivy League are black kids to the NBA.

[Christopher DiStefano]

It's what it is because just what they do. It's what it is. And I'm, I'm going to tilt this.

[Giannis Pappas]

In honor of our African American.

[Christopher DiStefano]

I was going to say, because I'm wearing a jacket that a 50 year old black man who grew up in the Bronx probably has. I want to tip that down and just wear it like that.

[Giannis Pappas]

That jacket looks like you're a black guy asleep on the train at 2 in the morning.

[Christopher DiStefano]

It's what it is.

[Giannis Pappas]

That jacket he'd be wearing.

[Christopher DiStefano]

Now. Here we go.

[Giannis Pappas]

Talk to me, we got two economists sitting here.

[Christopher DiStefano]

I just want to sit down and tell you, because here's the thing is tariffs, I know that it's probably the first time people are hearing about them because of what's going on in the US economy. I want to tell you though that they've been around for a while. Okay. Do you know who had the very first tariff? Who created the very first tariff? Your favorite Dominican, Alexander Hamilton. Alexander Hamilton. Everyone's favorite Dominican from the play Hamilton, he, when he was alive in 1790s, he actually was the one who instituted the tariff because back then, there was no federal taxes. You did not get taxed by the government. The only way for the government to make money was a little thing we like to call a tariff. That's why he did that. And what he was thinking about was we had just went into a war with the British. With the British.

[Giannis Pappas]

Don't mind me. I'm just on my ox.

[Christopher DiStefano]

That's it. Yes.

[Giannis Pappas]

I think Chinese like to ride agriculture.

[Christopher DiStefano]

He was. He was on the war. He was. We had just fought with the British and he had said to them, he had said, we don't want to deal with the British anymore. We don't want to buy any of their tea or their textiles or anything. We want to make things here at home. He was the first guy to say, it all starts here. You know, he was the first guy to do Make America Great again.

[Giannis Pappas]

He was the first guy. Yeah. A lot of people don't know that there wasn't even a federal income tax until 1913.

[Christopher DiStefano]

Yeah. That's the truth. Everything was about states, states rights. So this whole idea. And by the way, we're going to talk to you, I'm going to get to where this whole idea of states rights come from. It's. It comes from a little thing called the Tariff of Abomination, which reminds me of Joe DeRose's Vile Horrendous, which I heard him talking about a podcast this week, and it's disgusting. Just go Google Joe DeRose's vile horrendous. But so let me tell you something real quick, because Basically, in the 1790s, we needed money to pay off the debt because we borrowed a lot of money from the French kids to help us beat the British.

[Giannis Pappas]

Yeah.

[Christopher DiStefano]

So we. So we' to make things here. And like true fashion. See, a lot of people think the Civil War just came out of nowhere, and a lot of people blame it on slavery. And that is a huge part of it. Because in the 1790s, in with Alexander Hamilton, when he said tariffs and he's going to increase the prices of exports coming from British and all these other countries because he wanted the United States or the thirteen colonies at the time to make their own products, he really favored the north and not the south, because the south said. Yeah, but you know what guy? The south said this. You know what guy? We need cotton and other things because we got to have these slaves doing their work.

[Giannis Pappas]

Yeah.

[Christopher DiStefano]

So you guys up in the north, you don't really need the things that we need.

[Giannis Pappas]

Yeah.

[Christopher DiStefano]

And Alexander Hamilton said, shut up.

[Giannis Pappas]

Yeah, it's it's just very interesting to be wearing these things because on the size of your head, that just looks like a normal hat.

[Christopher DiStefano]

It just looks like.

[Giannis Pappas]

Yeah, to me it's just probably just engulfing my head.

[Christopher DiStefano]

I just look like a rice ball on a plate right now. Weighs on chain. And here's the thing is the reason why we have these hats on is just in case we do lose the trade war. Because we will eventually tell you, we will get to the part where we tell you that this is actually just a tariff on China. This is just a war with China, this other countries are involved, but really it's not about that, it's about China. So just in case we do lose a trade war, I just want there to be evidence in Shanghai right now. I want Gigi, John Ping Ping to just see me and Yanni with these hats on and know that we're communist cuties.

[Giannis Pappas]

I would. I am ready to be a farm worker.

[Christopher DiStefano]

Yes.

[Giannis Pappas]

In the agrarian land of China. And Chris did get these hats on Amazon right before they cost $340.

[Christopher DiStefano]

Yes.

[Giannis Pappas]

And unfortunately the string already broke and we didn't hug on it or anything. But that's essentially a good metaphor and example of what's been going on since China joined the wto.

[Christopher DiStefano]

Yes.

[Giannis Pappas]

Is that they've just been making cheap shit and we've just been buying their shit.

[Christopher DiStefano]

What it is the World Trade Organization, which we'll get to in a moment. But here's the thing because is all at. Back in the day when Hamilton had these tariffs, it was just about America being number one. And the problem is, is no matter how much you want to slice it, we are all in this together as human beings. And even though I love this country and I am red, white and blue to the day, I die, when you start to get a little. It's called protectionism. When you just want to protect your own country's like rights and all that and manufacturing stuff, the other countries get cut out and everybody begins to lose.

[Giannis Pappas]

Yeah.

[Christopher DiStefano]

And this is what started to happen. So Alexander Hamilton started to lose and they taxed the foreign goods, especially the manufactured ones and Hamilton wanted to make these American made products even better. But then everything just started to go down and people started to get mad and it led to the War of 1812.

[Giannis Pappas]

Did this have anything to do with the reason that Bill Burr shot him?

[Christopher DiStefano]

Yeah, Bill Burr did shoot him. And Bill Burr was sitting in these seats right before you got here. Bill Burr was in the podcast the.

[Giannis Pappas]

Murderer of Alexander Hamilton.

[Christopher DiStefano]

Yeah. What a. Um, so here's the thing is, like I said, the south really opposed. This is Alexander Hamilton right here. Yes, he's Dominican, man. The south really opposed these tariffs because they relied on imported goods and exported raw materials like cotton and tobacco because that's what their slaves were there for. That's what they were working with. So they saw the tariffs as benefiting the north and not the South. So that was a problem. So here's the thing is I want to just. I wrote a little charity thing. That's why I read from this for a second.

[Giannis Pappas]

A charity.

[Christopher DiStefano]

A charity thing.

[Giannis Pappas]

Yeah, I love charity things.

[Christopher DiStefano]

Yeah, a little party thing.

[Giannis Pappas]

So you get it, you get a star.

[Christopher DiStefano]

I want.

[Giannis Pappas]

Just like my daughter, I'm giving you a star for writing a Chinese charity thing.

[Christopher DiStefano]

So here's the differences because people say, oh, Alexander Hamilton did tariffs. So he's on the $10 bill. He's a Dominican kid. I saw his play.

[Giannis Pappas]

And my brother's on the $3 bill.

[Christopher DiStefano]

And your brother's on the $3 bill. Exactly. So that maybe, maybe tariffs aren't so bad. But here's the differences. So the purpose of Alexander Hamilton's tariffs were to revenue to generate re revenue because like I said, they had no federal income tax and protect new industries. The modern era, we're using tariffs right now really for trade leverage and national security. A big thing that the people are not talking about in the economy. What Donnie T said why he's instituted these tariffs because he believes it's a national security issue. Because a lot of fentanyl is getting into the Canadian Mexican border now. Is that a cover? Probably, yeah. But he's still saying it. Yeah, but here's the other reason. So also rates Hamilton. By today's standards, his rates were pretty high, 5 to 15% with higher rates on luxury goods. Right now the tariffs typically 1.5 to 5% but they can spike like with the China tariffs. Cuz here's the other thing to not forget, baby Gorgeous is Trump in his first term went to a trade war with China and instituted many tariffs on China. And then what did they respond with?

[Giannis Pappas]

Yeah, 2018 he started a trade war with China and 2019, they exported something that we could not tariff.

[Christopher DiStefano]

Yeah, maybe we're going to have to edit that part out. We are trying not to be demonetized. But make no mistake, in Shanghai we started putting tariffs on them and they started releasing the Bat Wei Shangchi. So it's just what it is. It's one of those coinky things.

[Giannis Pappas]

It's a quick that makes you go.

[Christopher DiStefano]

So you kind of wonder, what are they going to do now?

[Giannis Pappas]

What?

[Christopher DiStefano]

That's why we have these hats on. We are protected. Yeah.

[Giannis Pappas]

Who knows what's coming now? But it doesn't matter because everyone's focused on Israel. Yes.

[Christopher DiStefano]

So. So in Hamilton's era, they focus on the tariffs was manufactured imports from Britain. That was kind of still the enemy. Today it's electronics, auto, steel, agriculture, goods, everything China makes.

[Giannis Pappas]

Yeah.

[Christopher DiStefano]

And then the dependence on the tariffs. So tariffs were the last.

[Giannis Pappas]

I just got a message on my phone.

[Christopher DiStefano]

Yeah.

[Giannis Pappas]

It says, stop talking about China, you two nincompoops.

[Christopher DiStefano]

Okay. Yeah.

[Giannis Pappas]

So yeah, they make these false. Yeah, they make everything.

[Christopher DiStefano]

Dependence on tariffs. So tariffs were the main source of federal income in Hamilton's day, like I said. And today it's really for income. We. Our main source of income are income tax and payroll tax.

[Giannis Pappas]

So I thought it was onlyfans feet picks.

[Christopher DiStefano]

That's what I was going to say. A lot of it is onlyfans, feet picks. And of course patreon.com history hyenas is what's supporting the US economy at the moment is.

[Giannis Pappas]

I thought we were a podcast economy. And Andrew Schultz has us all believe in. We can do it too.

[Christopher DiStefano]

We could do it. Okay, so this leads to the War of 1812. A lot of people don't like the War of 1812 because they don't want to admit that we lost to the British. Yeah, that's the one. We lost. But we did get the Star Spangled Banner out of it.

[Giannis Pappas]

Yeah, we did. And you know what? Listen, the battle was lost, but the war was won. Yeah, yeah. Because look at their tiny little country and look at our big.

[Christopher DiStefano]

Exactly.

[Giannis Pappas]

Yeah.

[Christopher DiStefano]

Okay, so this leads us to The Tariff of 1828, also known as the Tariff of Abominations. Okay, so income, my boy, Andrew Jackson.

[Giannis Pappas]

Yes.

[Christopher DiStefano]

Yeah. The man on the $20 bill.

[Giannis Pappas]

The man of the $20 bill who had a little thing for not being too fond of the Indians.

[Christopher DiStefano]

Yeah. It's just what it is. He didn't like them. But here's the thing, even though his vice president was John C. Calhoun. Now, John C. The, the big thing with the town for abominations is South Carolina.

[Giannis Pappas]

Oh, and Calhoun hated blacks.

[Christopher DiStefano]

Yeah, he did. Let's just be. Let's just break it down and say it as is, is that our founding fathers didn't like blacks or Native Americans. They just didn't like them.

[Giannis Pappas]

It's just something that they had in them. And Calhoun was a biggie, biggie, biggie of that, yeah.

[Christopher DiStefano]

And if you saw a man with a hat like this and Andrew Jackson's time, you know what he had in his right hand? Dynamite. But it is. So here's the thing. So the tariff of abominations, what basically it is, is they have the, the federal government institute sky high tariff rates. They really lean in now. They say, you know what? 45% tariff, there's just tariff and the north. And because they want to protect the northern factories. So they're saying, we want to make sure that the north is okay. In the south, they explode. They say, listen, we're importing goods, exporting cotton, and now we got to pay massive markups with no local benefit. We want to secede. So even though the Civil War is not for another 30, 40 years, South Carolina says we're seceding.

[Giannis Pappas]

Now that's a great point because, you know, behind everything is money, money, money, money, money, money.

[Christopher DiStefano]

Right. So here's what led to South Carolina's meltdown is John C. Calhoun, who was the vice president of Andrew Jackson at the time. Awkward. He's basically telling South Carolina, you know what? You should succeed. You should succeed.

[Giannis Pappas]

Succeed.

[Christopher DiStefano]

You should secede. Sorry, you should secede. You should secede. Get out of here. And then Andrew Jackson's like, hello, I'm the president, stupid. You're my vice president. He was like, well, I'm siding with South Carolina. And he's the first vice president ever and only to resign.

[Giannis Pappas]

That's right.

[Christopher DiStefano]

He just resigned in office because Andrew Jackson, even though he's about states rights and does hate Native Americans and pretty much anyone who's not white, he is a federalist. And he does love being the. He loves being having a central United States.

[Giannis Pappas]

He wants a strong, big country.

[Christopher DiStefano]

He's a federalist. He's not like John C. Calhoun, which is states rights. So all these states rights that we're seeing even pop up today. Yeah, it all really starts stemming from this.

[Giannis Pappas]

Yeah.

[Christopher DiStefano]

Andrew Jackson, the tariff of Abominations.

[Giannis Pappas]

Basically Calhoun was saying, you take him, you take in my slaves from my cold dead hand.

[Christopher DiStefano]

Yeah. And here's what, and here's the thing, here's the thing with Andrew Jackson. You know, he gets misunderstood. You know, Andrew Jackson in the Tariff of Abominations, even though it would have been better for Andrew Jackson to have the south secede and to, to really, to decrease the tariffs because he was a Southern slaveholder, he said, no, you know, thinking about my country first and my slave second. And that's nice though.

[Giannis Pappas]

And unfortunately, back then it Was just slaves were like, they were like Nike, Air Force ones. A lot of white women had them.

[Christopher DiStefano]

Yeah, it's just what it is. Yeah. So. So there was a thing called the nullification crisis. So the nullification crisis which is basically kind of like leading to the Civil War where John C. Calhoun resigns as vp. I told you, he was on the South Carolina side and he. Oh, and here's another, here's another thing Calhoun said was just a little thing where you're like, what? He said that slavery was good for both races. So it's just, what can you do? What can you do? It's just the way the kid felt.

[Giannis Pappas]

Yeah.

[Christopher DiStefano]

So what happens is, is Henry Clay is a, is a guy who. Henry Clay, not supposedly a racist. He comes up with the Compromise Tariff of 1833 which he lowered rates. He's lowered the rates over the course of 10 years. He said look, this is getting crazy, we are going to go into a civil war. So let me just lower the rates a little bit here and save everyone's life. Because at that time, I mean, cuz make no mistake, if you're getting a tariff on 45%, you're going to start killing people. Yeah, you can start killing people. To the south, you.

[Giannis Pappas]

It's interesting to think just the north and south had different economies and the tariffs really accelerated.

[Christopher DiStefano]

Yes.

[Giannis Pappas]

The advantage of one over the other.

[Christopher DiStefano]

Yeah, it's just what it is, you know.

[Giannis Pappas]

And unfortunately one of those economies was based on free human labor.

[Christopher DiStefano]

Yeah, it's what it is. It's what it is. So that was a big problem. And then you have, of course the Civil War then happens. Not you know, obviously about slavery and all these other things, but it really has a lot to do with this. That seeded the north versus the South. It started happening here with one, one side of the country getting tariff more and it affecting them more than another side of the country. And you're starting to see, well could that happen in today's tariff war? And I don't know, it might. So then fdr, here's the big thing. Then FDR comes in with the reciprocal trade agreement right after Andrew Jackson, right after Andre Jackson and Andrew Jackson's 1832. This is 1934. She's got 100 years of no problems.

[Giannis Pappas]

No problems. It was just good smooth sail, no turbulence.

[Christopher DiStefano]

Yeah. So with FDR, FDR rolls into the picture. Yes, he does. So FDR 14, a lot of 14. So he comes in and he's really the first President that says, you know what, we need to Start negotiating bilaterally with these countries. Because a lot of it was. A lot of it for years was just like, you know what tariff on you. You can suck my ass. Where the night where FDR comes in and says, you know what? We're going to put a tariff on you, you know, Britain, China. But you. Let's have a discussion on. We'll trade you stuff, and then you have to buy a certain amount stuff back from us. And they started it. So it wasn't even really about tariffs. It was about, let's just have negotiations. Let's just be cute and talk like human beings.

[Giannis Pappas]

Yeah. Let's sit down at the table and talk.

[Christopher DiStefano]

Yeah.

[Giannis Pappas]

And they work out a deal.

[Christopher DiStefano]

Let's work out a deal. Because here's one tariff that I do want to bring up that I do think I've heard a lot of economists talking about how they think it could apply to today is a little thing called Smoot Hawley Tariff. Do you know about it?

[Giannis Pappas]

Oh, yeah. This is where. This is where things get interesting because we have a Great Depression. That happens. Yeah, we have a Great Depression. It happens, and then this happens.

[Christopher DiStefano]

Yeah. So the Smoot Hawley tax, we're in the Great Depression, and the Smoot Hawley Tariff does. What they do is they really double down. And what their thought process of the American powers that be at that time said, we're in a Great Depression. We're losing everything. Let's basically cut ourselves off from the rest of the world and just make everything in here squeeze everyone else out and make our people start pumping money into the economy and buying American goods. And it failed big.

[Giannis Pappas]

That's the. That's the consensus. I think most people think that that really accelerated the depression. You also had the dust bowl. That happened. So it was.

[Christopher DiStefano]

Yeah.

[Giannis Pappas]

Act of God. So what happened is Jesus Christ said, you know what? We're a little mad at the United States for whatever reason. I know we got to ask your mom what happened. And he sent a dust bowl. So the farms really dried up. And that's what sent a lot of farmers west.

[Christopher DiStefano]

Yes. And I think so it was.

[Giannis Pappas]

It was a quadruple whammy.

[Christopher DiStefano]

It was a quadruple whammy. And then he sent. You know how, like. And then he sent. Like in the wizard of Oz. You know, in the wizard of Oz, they have like those. The. The flying monkeys, like with the. The. They fly around with the guns in the movie. Yeah, it. So in World War II, he just sent the Japanese.

[Giannis Pappas]

Just kidding.

[Christopher DiStefano]

Yeah. Okay. So the Smoot Hawley Tariff. So what it did is it raised, it raised tariffs sky high prices, it isolated the U.S. it triggered trade wars and it hurt U.S. exports. And like I said, a lot of people really genuinely think this made the Great Depression worse. And why I brought that up today is because people think what Donnie T. Is doing right now with this new tariffs that you know, we're experiencing in present day, they think it has could have a smooth hauling effect and put us further into a recession and cause big problems. But I say have no fear cuz Donnie T. Knows what he's doing.

[Giannis Pappas]

Yeah. That's the argument I've heard on the other side is just I trust that guy.

[Christopher DiStefano]

Yeah.

[Giannis Pappas]

So what happened with, with this tariff is much like what you're seeing today. The other countries retaliated.

[Christopher DiStefano]

Yes.

[Giannis Pappas]

And they put their own Taliffs. Talif's. I'm wearing a hat called a talib.

[Christopher DiStefano]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Giannis Pappas]

It's a Talif.

[Christopher DiStefano]

Yes.

[Giannis Pappas]

I'm having trouble with the R's with this out.

[Christopher DiStefano]

Yeah.

[Giannis Pappas]

Way song chain. And so they retaliated and there was just a much more, a bigger drop in international trade and prices went up and it's just what it is. And that's why a lot of people say tariffs are basically taxes because goods, the prices of goods just go up for the ordinary American.

[Christopher DiStefano]

Yeah. So it's what it's kind of some people feel like, you know, with inflation and all these issues happening that what's the point of the tariff? It's all going to cut into, you know, our bottom dollar. But listen, here's the thing is I think ultimately what I want to just try to explain real quick is that that tariffs have been around for 250 plus years and every single time if you just look at a 10 year span, your money has always been up at the end. So you should think about if you have all your money in the stock market right now and it's going way down and you need that money, then yes, probably that's nerve inducing. But you shouldn't have all your money in the stock market if you fricking need it to live life.

[Giannis Pappas]

What about people who are retiring right now who got 401ks?

[Christopher DiStefano]

So people who are bad timing. Bad timing but also for keep working, keep working. But 401ks, they're going to definitely go down and get, you know, typically older people are not as aggressive as younger people. So.

[Giannis Pappas]

Right.

[Christopher DiStefano]

You know, so I think like it's going to get bad but I think if you look over the course of 10 years even after the Great Depression.

[Giannis Pappas]

Yeah.

[Christopher DiStefano]

You're always up, always up. The elderly people. That might suck for them a little bit. But what are you going to do? I mean, I don't know, have your grandson take in the back and shoot you? Jake.

[Giannis Pappas]

Well, my advice would be just take all your money.

[Christopher DiStefano]

We can't get financial advice. Just be careful.

[Giannis Pappas]

Okay, so this is a joke and I'll say we're not financial advice. But there is a hot coin that I know about called Retardo.

[Christopher DiStefano]

Yes.

[Giannis Pappas]

That I think maybe you should just get in on because who knows.

[Christopher DiStefano]

Yes.

[Giannis Pappas]

Right now America's really being known for something.

[Christopher DiStefano]

Yes.

[Giannis Pappas]

And maybe that's the coin to go. It's called Retardio coin.

[Christopher DiStefano]

Yeah, it's called retardio.

[Giannis Pappas]

Yeah. And it's an actual digital coin that you can invest in. And I think that it's going to be hot.

[Christopher DiStefano]

It's what it is.

[Giannis Pappas]

Promoting it. Don't do it.

[Christopher DiStefano]

Don't do it.

[Giannis Pappas]

Yeah.

[Christopher DiStefano]

So, okay, so you know, we get these Hawley Smoot Hawley tax tariffs which are bad. And then FDR really does come in and save the day. He rolls in and he saves the day and he says. And he creates. He creates the rtaa. What? I said the. Why am I blanking the retardo. No, not retardo. The what is RTA again? No, but what. What is it?

[Giannis Pappas]

Why am I having a freaking road trade initiative?

[Christopher DiStefano]

No, it stands for the Reciprocal Trade Agreements Act. Reciprocal trade. Which is what Trump says he's doing right now. He says it's a reciprocal tariff.

[Giannis Pappas]

Right.

[Christopher DiStefano]

He's like, I'm going to tariff you knowing they're going to tariff us back. But kid said it's all part of the pleasant.

[Giannis Pappas]

It's all part of the plan.

[Christopher DiStefano]

That's what he said. So, so listen, I don't know how it's all going to turn out, but I'm just telling you the only thing you could do right now is fear not. And we are going to take a quick break and be right back. And then Yanni is going to explain to us how all of it applies to present day America and how you're going to be okay, baby. Gorgeous.

[Giannis Pappas]

I didn't say that last part. I don't know. But we're getting into the WTO and. And the NWO in wrestling.

[Christopher DiStefano]

Yeah.

[Giannis Pappas]

And we're getting into nafta. Yeah. Which is present day baby. The rise of China and the Royal Rumble between the United States versus China.

[Christopher DiStefano]

What I like cuz I just like it when you're Nice and hard. Yeah, I just like it. And I know when you've taken a Blue Chew and when you have it. Yeah, because like today you're coming nice and hard. What do I know? Blue Chew in the coffee.

[Giannis Pappas]

Yeah, yeah. And listen, sometimes you gotta, you gotta do it. If a guy needs to do it. No shame. Just hit up Bluechew.

[Christopher DiStefano]

Yep, yep.

[Giannis Pappas]

They're putting their money where their mouth is. Just go to bluetooth.com consult with one of their licensed medical providers, and once you're approved, you'll receive your prescription within days. This is the way to just get your penis pills without any asshole.

[Christopher DiStefano]

It's what it is. And Bluetooth tablets are made right here in the usa, so you know what that means. No tariffs on the Blue Chews. The Blue Chews are just nice and they go directly to your pee pee. And I just like it because I like when blood's flowing to my cock and balls. I just really do.

[Giannis Pappas]

And that's a huge point. These will not be affected by the tariffs because they're made in the good old U.S. of A. Yeah.

[Christopher DiStefano]

Cause, and you know, that's the thing. If, and here's the thing, if Trump be putting some tariffs on China doesn't give you a hard on, then Bluechew, well, they will.

[Giannis Pappas]

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[Christopher DiStefano]

That's what it is. Because. And I got to tell you, you know, we hung out last the other night and I your ball did not stink. They smelled good. And I said the kid must be using his man though.

[Giannis Pappas]

Yeah. Because man though knows that. And so Mando gives you wipes, they give you deodorant. They got all types of things to stop the fumes. And we're a fume free Fume fighting podcast.

[Christopher DiStefano]

That's what we are. Cuz I the other a lot of times I don't even take showers. I just rub myself down in Mando. And the family loves it.

[Giannis Pappas]

Yeah, it's whole body deodorant created by a doctor who saw firsthand how normal BO was being misdiagnosed, mistreated, clinically proven to block all odor all day and control order for 72 hours.

[Christopher DiStefano]

It's what it is. Because. Yeah. And he. Even with Trump's tariffs in India, he didn't put one on Mando. Mando can just get out there with tariff free.

[Giannis Pappas]

Yeah.

[Christopher DiStefano]

Just because he was just saving the planet.

[Giannis Pappas]

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[Christopher DiStefano]

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[Giannis Pappas]

And they're in Target too. Okay. So America becomes a big powerhouse. You want to know why? Superman, baby. Steel.

[Christopher DiStefano]

Yeah.

[Giannis Pappas]

Pittsburgh.

[Christopher DiStefano]

Yes.

[Giannis Pappas]

West Virginia.

[Christopher DiStefano]

Love it.

[Giannis Pappas]

Pennsylvania is going strong. It's not just the Quakers. We're not just making bread and baked goods by inbred people with acne.

[Christopher DiStefano]

Right.

[Giannis Pappas]

We're also. Who can't touch light switches.

[Christopher DiStefano]

Yes.

[Giannis Pappas]

And can't use cars.

[Christopher DiStefano]

Yes.

[Giannis Pappas]

But we're also making steel. Yeah. All these Italian kids and all these immigrant kids, they're just moving around steel. We're building bridges and it makes us a powerhouse. We're exporting steel. People are buying our steel with our surplus steel. We just become strong. We put up the Empire State Building. We put up buildings that can't fall down from planes.

[Christopher DiStefano]

Right.

[Giannis Pappas]

Right. But do get hit with planes.

[Christopher DiStefano]

What it is.

[Giannis Pappas]

That's what we do.

[Christopher DiStefano]

We can't. Here's the thing. Cuz we can't. We can make steel that can get. That can withstand anything except conspiracies.

[Giannis Pappas]

That's.

[Christopher DiStefano]

That the only thing that could take us down.

[Giannis Pappas]

That's the only thing that could take down. Steel is a good conspiracy.

[Christopher DiStefano]

That's what it is.

[Giannis Pappas]

Yeah. And invisible.

[Christopher DiStefano]

Yes.

[Giannis Pappas]

Yes. They always could do the job. Yeah.

[Christopher DiStefano]

Yeah.

[Giannis Pappas]

So.

[Christopher DiStefano]

So we're going to just for the YouTube, just drop all that parts out because we just won't. We're just. They'll just kiss them or cackle it. Yes, cackle it. If you want to hear the unedited version, you know where to go. Patreon.com history hyenas.

[Giannis Pappas]

Yeah, just cackle.

[Christopher DiStefano]

Yeah. And the Patreon, by the way, will be out on time. This. We've heard your voices loud and clear.

[Giannis Pappas]

Yeah, we heard you. You guys were the protests in Seattle and you won. Yeah, you won.

[Christopher DiStefano]

We tried to put Yama because all this week and sneak past you guys, but we couldn't. You caught us.

[Giannis Pappas]

Yeah, we tried to get screwed in. We tried to play a little ultimate Frisbee and you guys said we're not going for it. And you threw a couple of bricks through a couple of Starbucks windows and we said we're. We're done.

[Christopher DiStefano]

I'm going to start calling the Patreon that you stop out.

[Giannis Pappas]

They want what they want and that's what it.

[Christopher DiStefano]

That's what it is.

[Giannis Pappas]

Patreon.com history Hyenas Join the matriarchy. Weekly bonus episodes and early this episode, early uncackle.

[Christopher DiStefano]

Early on, cackle. Because we're gonna have to do a lot of cackling. Go ahead, Yanni, tell us. We're gonna have to.

[Giannis Pappas]

We're gonna have to. We're gonna have to do something with these hats. They may have to be like fizzled out.

[Christopher DiStefano]

Fizzled out. Cuz, cuz right now, if you're not if. Right now, if you're on the YouTube, we didn't say this, but you're on the Patreon. Me and Y look like a couple.

[Giannis Pappas]

Way song ladder 14.

[Christopher DiStefano]

Yes, we do.

[Giannis Pappas]

Yeah. Yes, we do. Yeah. Yeah, we do. We do. We love what it is. Yeah.

[Christopher DiStefano]

Yeah.

[Giannis Pappas]

So America.

[Christopher DiStefano]

One second.

[Giannis Pappas]

Oh, there it is.

[Christopher DiStefano]

Yeah.

[Giannis Pappas]

So America becomes strong.

[Christopher DiStefano]

Yeah.

[Giannis Pappas]

Okay. And then, and then, then 1994 rolls around. Yeah, it's a good year for H. 1994 rolls around. We're coming off the 80s Reaganomics, which.

[Christopher DiStefano]

We were having, by the way. We were having fun in the 80s. Everybody was buying houses. All our fathers were rich.

[Giannis Pappas]

Yeah.

[Christopher DiStefano]

People had money. People had money and hoes in 80s.

[Giannis Pappas]

Yeah. If you didn't, if you didn't like crack, you were doing good.

[Christopher DiStefano]

Yes.

[Giannis Pappas]

If you like crack, you weren't doing. So that's what it is. That's what it is.

[Christopher DiStefano]

Everybody was having fun. They had money and they had aids.

[Giannis Pappas]

And aids. If you didn't have aids, like gay Sex you didn't like crack. Things were okay.

[Christopher DiStefano]

It's either you had. It's either you had money and a mortgage or you had cracking aids.

[Giannis Pappas]

It's basically the 80s.

[Christopher DiStefano]

It is, baby. That's the 80s.

[Giannis Pappas]

That's the 80s right there. That is essentially the 80s.

[Christopher DiStefano]

Unfortunately.

[Giannis Pappas]

Unfortunately, that's the 80s.

[Christopher DiStefano]

Yeah, we're just historians.

[Giannis Pappas]

Yeah. Bill Clinton rolls a cigar in a 21 year old girl's vagina and the 90s come roaring in.

[Christopher DiStefano]

It's what it is.

[Giannis Pappas]

It's what it is. And then in the 90s, we get.

[Christopher DiStefano]

NAFTA, baby, which is the North American Free Trade Act.

[Giannis Pappas]

Yeah. Where we go, we looked at it, we looked down, down to the south and we go, hey, Mexico. We look up to the north and we go, hey, American snow monkeys.

[Christopher DiStefano]

Yeah.

[Giannis Pappas]

Are you guys ready to trade?

[Christopher DiStefano]

Yeah.

[Giannis Pappas]

And they say, of course we are, bubbas.

[Christopher DiStefano]

Yes.

[Giannis Pappas]

So we start trading with them.

[Christopher DiStefano]

Right.

[Giannis Pappas]

And, and it's good, it's good for Canada for the most part. They. We start getting auto parts from Mexico, from Canada, we get cheaper labor.

[Christopher DiStefano]

Avocado.

[Giannis Pappas]

We get avocados.

[Christopher DiStefano]

Really? That's, that's a fact. The NAFTA is why, like AVO brunch. Like avo, that's really because of naft. We started getting avocados for cheapy.

[Giannis Pappas]

We started getting cheapy weepy and. But then unfortunately, American farmers, that's when we needed to really start subsidize. American farmers just get government checks.

[Christopher DiStefano]

They just do.

[Giannis Pappas]

Yeah. Donnie T's just was last administration, they.

[Christopher DiStefano]

Were just getting checks because. Make no mistake, because you know, sometimes like we use words and even, you know, not everyone knows you got. What we got to understand too, guys is a lot of people just, they read headlines because the world is tough right now. There's a lot of things going on, on what a subsidy is because people just say subsidies and it goes over people's heads. A subsidy is basically the government just giving you money.

[Giannis Pappas]

Yeah.

[Christopher DiStefano]

Giving you. They're giving. That's why I always say, I think the Chinese are getting subsidies to buy houses in this country. I really genuinely, my heart believe it. Because you keep getting outbid by these Chinese guys that have cash. Yes. And I'm like, that's. They're very smart. Yes. They're very good at what they do, but I really, genuinely think they're getting money from the govy.

[Giannis Pappas]

Yeah, that's right. So yeah, 1994, we got NAFTA and.

[Christopher DiStefano]

The new girl's just a piece and.

[Giannis Pappas]

It'S what it is. Yeah. So NAFTA is the biggie, and that's what starts the United States, Mexico and Canada.

[Christopher DiStefano]

Yeah.

[Giannis Pappas]

Really trading now, FDR after World War II, like you said, the whole point behind the international trade agreements and gaff and all that was like, hey, we don't want all this protection, by the way.

[Christopher DiStefano]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. And by the way, what that was was the Gentleman's Agreement on Tariffs and Trade.

[Giannis Pappas]

Yeah. No ladies allowed.

[Christopher DiStefano]

No ladies allowed. And it was basically FDR and the countries that were in power at the time saying, let's just be gentlemen right here. Let's just be gentlemen. Gentlemen. And trade with each other and exclude the Chinese. And let's just be gentlemen.

[Giannis Pappas]

Let's just be gentle.

[Christopher DiStefano]

That's a fact. They just excluded a lot of Asian nations. That's okay.

[Giannis Pappas]

Yeah. It was just for people with body hair.

[Christopher DiStefano]

Yeah. It's what it is.

[Giannis Pappas]

No Asians, no women allowed. And. Yeah. And a gat is also a gun in a rap song.

[Christopher DiStefano]

Yes.

[Giannis Pappas]

So that's just what it is.

[Christopher DiStefano]

It's what it is. Yeah.

[Giannis Pappas]

So the whole goal was like, we don't want this international conflict anymore. We're going to create the United Nations. We're going to create gatt, we're going to create trade agreements. We want to lift people out of poverty. We want. We want to get rid of this protectionism that they think was a major reason why the World War happened. Right.

[Christopher DiStefano]

And what everyone.

[Giannis Pappas]

To flourish. We want to be interdependent on each other.

[Christopher DiStefano]

And what protectionism is, is basically a nation saying we're protecting our own interests and excluding everyone else. That's what it means.

[Giannis Pappas]

That's what we don't.

[Christopher DiStefano]

And that's what they think. That's what they saying Trump is guilty of. Right now. Some people are saying.

[Giannis Pappas]

Right. And some people, like when, like Chris said, when we had our tariffs at the beginning, we were a nation and we had the tariffs because we wanted to build our nation up. Up. And that's what a lot of people say. That's why Vietnam has tariffs. That's why a lot of these countries have tariffs. That's why China has tariffs. But you're going, why do you continue to have tariffs? Because you're built up. Yeah. You're built up. So you're acting sneaky.

[Christopher DiStefano]

Yeah.

[Giannis Pappas]

You're devaluing your currency, and you're doing everything to become us. And we don't like it.

[Christopher DiStefano]

We don't like it. Yeah. We're the only ones who could do what we do.

[Giannis Pappas]

Yeah. They're basically comics just doing Shane's cadence.

[Christopher DiStefano]

Yes.

[Giannis Pappas]

And Shane doesn't like that.

[Christopher DiStefano]

Doesn't like that.

[Giannis Pappas]

We're Shane, we're United States. States.

[Christopher DiStefano]

It's what it is.

[Giannis Pappas]

That's what it is.

[Christopher DiStefano]

It's what it is because I had a show in Boise, Idaho on Friday and I was performing at one venue and then Mo Ammer was performing at another venue across town. And I said on stage to the crowd, I said, listen, some of you guys may have went to the other show or may have go and takes the other show. Mo Amer show, the Palestinian crowd. I said, this show in here, this is Israel. And I created. And I said, boys, he's the God of strip. And I told Mo about. I think he was getting funny. And he got very mad at me and told me, stop disrespecting the prophet Muhammad. So what it is, they're just a little bit of militant kids.

[Giannis Pappas]

That's just what it is. It's just how they feel about.

[Christopher DiStefano]

Yes.

[Giannis Pappas]

Okay. So, yeah, I mean, that's ultimately, that's what becomes a big. That becomes a big wrench in the whole international trade scene.

[Christopher DiStefano]

Yes.

[Giannis Pappas]

Culture and politics and economic systems. Communism, capitalism, human rights, environmental rights. Who's going to respect what? Unions. Non unions.

[Christopher DiStefano]

Unions.

[Giannis Pappas]

Labor laws. Non labor laws. And you know what American capitalists love what they love a country with no labor laws.

[Christopher DiStefano]

That's what they like.

[Giannis Pappas]

They love that.

[Christopher DiStefano]

So they said, we see you, China.

[Giannis Pappas]

We see you, girl.

[Christopher DiStefano]

They're like, yo, you're gonna work your workers to death and nobody give a we. Y'all can't sue me. Oh, that like, yo, ying Ying yang ain't gonna sue me.

[Giannis Pappas]

They're like, oh, yeah, look at that 12 year old right there with no rights 14 hours a day.

[Christopher DiStefano]

I see you like, oh, they're killing all the girls. Great, more guys to work.

[Giannis Pappas]

We like that.

[Christopher DiStefano]

Like that. So then we made a little deal with.

[Giannis Pappas]

Who cares about Chinese people even less than the Chinese government.

[Christopher DiStefano]

Yeah.

[Giannis Pappas]

American capitalists.

[Christopher DiStefano]

Yes. Which, by the way, only a small section of China is communist. Most of them are common. Are capitalists.

[Giannis Pappas]

Yeah.

[Christopher DiStefano]

Just a mix. FYI, it's a mixed economy. It's a mixed bag. Like our sexuality.

[Giannis Pappas]

It's. Yeah, it's like they got capitalism with strong state control.

[Christopher DiStefano]

It's what it is.

[Giannis Pappas]

Yes. The state especially, it's gotten more and more and more under King Z. He's got. Yeah, he likes to put his fingers in every company and go, okay, what are you guys doing? Okay, we're going to take some of that. We're going to do that, we're going to dictate what you're doing.

[Christopher DiStefano]

Yeah, I mean, we got state control, too, here. It's called Ms. Rachel because I was watching it this morning with my daughter, and if they keep going on and on and on about how there's no gender, they're going to get an email from me.

[Giannis Pappas]

I didn't know, Mitch, Rachel started doing that.

[Christopher DiStefano]

Yeah. Ms. Rachel's kind of leaning all in and doesn't give a shit. And it's like, the truth is, Ms. Rachel's. We know you have nipple rings. Yeah, I could see it because every time they pop out, I pause my TV and tell the kids to go upstairs.

[Giannis Pappas]

And she is a billionaire, probably.

[Christopher DiStefano]

Oh, my.

[Giannis Pappas]

Hundreds of millions of dollars. And that's the American economy now, baby. Content, sweetheart, Content.

[Christopher DiStefano]

And make absolutely no mistake, do not put. I would not. I would not be shocked at this for a second if the government has not gotten to Ms. Rachel and said, you're going to start getting our ideas out through your little pictures and your little drawings of dinosaurs, and you're going to. You're going to start to indoctrinate these kids.

[Giannis Pappas]

Yeah. And you could tell that she got her orders from the last administration, but this new administration, you're going to start hearing songs like, ah, Chinese goods are cheap and break and American goods are sturdy. They're made by white immigrant hands that are a lot stronger than Chinese children. So get your iPhone made in Texas and make sure you buy your Tesla and pronounce it Tesla to honor our commander in chief in the office.

[Christopher DiStefano]

Yeah.

[Giannis Pappas]

Please repaint that painting of the great Lord Donald Trump. And that's what it's gonna be.

[Christopher DiStefano]

That's a good song. I like that song. I like that song.

[Giannis Pappas]

That's what it's gonna be.

[Christopher DiStefano]

Yes.

[Giannis Pappas]

Yeah. America first, kids. Let's say it together. Ah. First.

[Christopher DiStefano]

Yeah.

[Giannis Pappas]

So NAFTA happens, 1994. Bill Clinton after George W. Bush initiated it. And so we go into NAFTA, and then the biggie happens, 1999. We're not just going to party like it's 1999. Like, we're a cute, androgynous man who can sing and play instruments.

[Christopher DiStefano]

Yep.

[Giannis Pappas]

We're also going to formalize the Global Trade Agreement in something called the wto.

[Christopher DiStefano]

The World Trade Organization, folks. It gets a home base. It's basically how we talked about that gentleman's agreement.

[Giannis Pappas]

Yeah.

[Christopher DiStefano]

It's now morphed all the way into the World Trade Organization, which is a permanent institution, and it's basically there to what Settle rules, settle fights between basically settle trade wars.

[Giannis Pappas]

Yeah.

[Christopher DiStefano]

That. To have a winner and a loser. But make no mistake, what don't they have? Enforcement.

[Giannis Pappas]

That's the problem with these international organizations. That's a problem with the United Nations. That's the problem with the WTO is they're basically a referee in a WWE wrestling match.

[Christopher DiStefano]

Yeah.

[Giannis Pappas]

They got no authority.

[Christopher DiStefano]

Yeah, that's the basic. It's a problem with the traffic cop. It's like, guy, you can't give me a ticket. If I tell you not, they just.

[Giannis Pappas]

Wave their finger and they go, put that down, Israel, put that chair down. America, stop. And then they just do fake counts. And that's all they can do.

[Christopher DiStefano]

Traffic cop. It's like, hey, let me ask you a question, guy. Is it worth giving me a ticket for $55 when I shows up at your door tomorrow? Yeah. Is it worth it? Because I'll make a call.

[Giannis Pappas]

Yeah, that's a question for you.

[Christopher DiStefano]

That's a question for you, guy.

[Giannis Pappas]

Yeah, that's a question. So it takes place in Seattle. Now, this is an interesting moment in history.

[Christopher DiStefano]

Yes.

[Giannis Pappas]

Because the phone is there, the computer is there. So this is like one of the first times, if not the first time, a massive protest is organized on the Internet.

[Christopher DiStefano]

Yes.

[Giannis Pappas]

400,000 people converge onto Seattle. They coordinate on the Internet. They coordinate with cell phones. And the interesting thing is it's people from all walks of life, different groups. You got unions, you got environmentalists, you got anarchists. You got people who are upset about the turtles because they're getting caught in the nets in Peru or whatever.

[Christopher DiStefano]

Yes.

[Giannis Pappas]

And because they're going. Because in South America, they were catching these turtles with these nets, and the turtles faces would get caught and the WTO would go, hey, we don't regulate how they catch them. We just want to facilitate the free trade. So you got environmentalists, you got turtle protectors, you got all these different groups. You got blue collar union guys going down there going, no, we don't want that. It's going to hurt the steel worker.

[Christopher DiStefano]

Yeah.

[Giannis Pappas]

So all these different groups come together, and then you got the anarchists. They were called anarchists there. But this is like a precursor, sir, to the antifa.

[Christopher DiStefano]

That's what it is.

[Giannis Pappas]

They put their masks on. It's a mostly peaceful protest out there. But then they start. They start assimilating into all these groups, and they start smashing.

[Christopher DiStefano]

And what we're talking about is that a fun name was called the Battle of Seattle.

[Giannis Pappas]

It was called the Battle of Seattle, which rhymed. And if you can see that Seattle still carries on that tradition of having Chaz. And. And, you know, whenever you go to Seattle, you just. When you get the weather report, you just go, hey, it's a little hazy. Yeah, there's precipitation, 70%. It's a little cloudy, 47 degrees and a 12% chance of tear gas, because.

[Christopher DiStefano]

That'S what it is. And let me just tell you, I just want to take a quick moment to tell you that this weekend I was in a little city called Spokane, Washington. And let me tell you something right now. Now you look at me right now. You look at me good, okay? This is steel pride, Chrissy coming at you if you've ever complained about living in New York City, because I hear a lot of people complain about how our city's degrading and our city isn't at once what it was and New York lost its stuff. Let me tell you something right now. Go spend a weekend in Spokane, Washington. And you tell me. You tell me. I bet you'd rather live in Brownsville in 1997. Spokane, Washington. Okay, folks. Spokane, Washington, I am not. I am not dramatic when it comes to these things about cities and the drug issues, all that. Spokane, Washington, is one of the craziest drug war zones I've ever seen in my entire life. And I'm telling you right now because I'd rather be in Shanghai than Spokane. Okay? You do not. Spokane. And here's what happened is the people who live in Spokane, Washington, I did. Washington State University, one of the most liberal schools ever. It's in the state of Washington. Even they said we voted differently this election because of a little thing called Spokane, Washington. So make absolutely no mistake. Seattle, Spokane, these types of places that Yanni's talking about right now. Now, you got it wrong, and you get it wrong a lot, okay? You just. You're just wrong about most of the stuff. And I just think that your city was once beautiful and now you let it go to shit. And make absolutely no mistake, me and Johnny are here to save you.

[Giannis Pappas]

Yeah. That's what we're going to do. We're going to do. We're going to bring back jobs.

[Christopher DiStefano]

Yeah, it's what it is.

[Giannis Pappas]

Bring back jobs.

[Christopher DiStefano]

We're going to bring back jobs. And we're going to tell you how right after this break. It's getting good, baby. You're not going to want to miss what we say next. And we're keeping the hats on.

[Giannis Pappas]

Oh, it gets really, really gnarly. Okie doke. So here we are. Yeah, here we are right. Trade stop starts then 2001, September 11th happens. But another big event happened that a lot of people don't talk about. China joins the WTO.

[Christopher DiStefano]

Wow.

[Giannis Pappas]

Vince McMahon pulls the strings.

[Christopher DiStefano]

Yeah.

[Giannis Pappas]

Changes the storyline. And China, the big bad China joins the wto. And American companies get wet in the pussy.

[Christopher DiStefano]

Yes.

[Giannis Pappas]

They go, ooh, weird. Sending our companies to China because we love your cheap labor.

[Christopher DiStefano]

It's what it is.

[Giannis Pappas]

And it happens fast, dude. From 2001 to 2025, China rose up in two decades to become our rival. Yeah.

[Christopher DiStefano]

You have to understand, because of the wto, because people always think about, like, it's hard for our brain sometimes to, like, let go of the present. But there was a time 30 years ago, I actually remember this being a kid. China was a country, a very big country, but, like, not at all on the economic superpower that. It was like, not even close. Oh.

[Giannis Pappas]

People didn't even wear shoes.

[Christopher DiStefano]

Yeah. They was just. China was just a. It was like, you know, a country like a Vietnam or Cambodia was just bigger. It was, you know, they're there, they're making their things, but they're not. It was just the United States and Russia. That was what it was.

[Giannis Pappas]

There was nothing industrial about China. It was just agrarian. Just farmers walking around, around in, like, little thong sneakers. Shoes.

[Christopher DiStefano]

Yep.

[Giannis Pappas]

And they were just eating rice, and they were squatting down, and they were wearing these hats to protect themselves from the sun or whatever. And they had ox pulling them around. They were sitting on ox, and they were doing all types of things.

[Christopher DiStefano]

Yeah.

[Giannis Pappas]

And then they got involved in international trade, and that is what started this new economic arms race. China just exploded. They threw tariffs on our stuff to protect themselves. They undervalued their currency. They really took advantage of becoming the world's factory, which we mentioned in another episode.

[Christopher DiStefano]

Wait, hold on. You said they undervalued their currency? Yeah. So, like, what? They. They. They didn't care if their yen went down because they were like, we just. They just want to tariff everybody.

[Giannis Pappas]

Can you explain that, what they were doing?

[Christopher DiStefano]

Can you explain why they under. Because I. Sometimes I don't understand that. And that's. And what. I mean, sometimes. I mean, right now and always.

[Giannis Pappas]

It's unfair what they were doing.

[Christopher DiStefano]

What were they doing?

[Giannis Pappas]

The dollar. The dollar is the international.

[Christopher DiStefano]

The US Dollar.

[Giannis Pappas]

The US Dollar is the Internet. So when people make deals, they make it in dollars. So people want to collect dollars. Now, Jesse will explain to you what the undervaluing of the Chinese currency does. I think it can just keep their goods Cheaper. Right.

[Christopher DiStefano]

So but even though they're losing money.

[Giannis Pappas]

It gives them more buying power.

[Christopher DiStefano]

Right.

[Giannis Pappas]

And then they would save dollars. Right. Because as Janis said, that was the international reserve currency. So everything gets traded in dollars.

[Christopher DiStefano]

Right.

[Giannis Pappas]

Dollars are the safe haven and then the yen can go down and then it's cheaper for them.

[Christopher DiStefano]

So when you have your money in like that International Monetary Fund, that imf, it's dollars.

[Giannis Pappas]

They give out loans.

[Christopher DiStefano]

They give out loans.

[Giannis Pappas]

They give out loans to build you up.

[Christopher DiStefano]

But do they equate it in every dollar? So if your currency is stronger than the US you just got to pay less dollars.

[Giannis Pappas]

You got a white guy with a wig on a bill.

[Christopher DiStefano]

Yeah, it's what it is.

[Giannis Pappas]

And that's what you get.

[Christopher DiStefano]

That's what you get.

[Giannis Pappas]

That's what you get.

[Christopher DiStefano]

But right now, as we say right now, the US dollar is still strong, but it's getting a bit weaker with the tariffs. Right.

[Giannis Pappas]

Ab? Yeah. The euro's coming up.

[Christopher DiStefano]

Who's got the strongest currency?

[Giannis Pappas]

I think maybe the euro. Now is it the euro?

[Christopher DiStefano]

Who's number one?

[Giannis Pappas]

It's always flip flopping between the euro and the.

[Christopher DiStefano]

So wait, but would the Chinese devalue their own currency to say basically, you think part of it too might have been like, maybe we can get the rest of the world to want to use our dollar because it's cheaper.

[Giannis Pappas]

Ah, well, that's what's happening. That's what they're trying to do now. So what happens is.

[Christopher DiStefano]

So this is.

[Giannis Pappas]

Let's get back to the Kawadi.

[Christopher DiStefano]

Kawadi diner. Dinar.

[Giannis Pappas]

Yeah, the Kuwaiti dinar.

[Christopher DiStefano]

The Kuwaiti dinar. Yeah. Or the Kuwaiti diner, which is down. It's. It's in Bensonhurst now.

[Giannis Pappas]

Yeah.

[Christopher DiStefano]

Things are changing out there.

[Giannis Pappas]

So the, the dinar in Kuwait is. The official currency of. Kuwait is known for its high value instability in the international market. They just got so much oil.

[Christopher DiStefano]

Wow. One KWD is currently worth $3.25. That's good.

[Giannis Pappas]

Yeah. I also think the, the kroner is worth more than the dollar.

[Christopher DiStefano]

Is the kroner German?

[Giannis Pappas]

The kroner is what they use in Scandinavia.

[Christopher DiStefano]

Okay.

[Giannis Pappas]

Yeah. So it's like, no way. And they got a lot of oil too.

[Christopher DiStefano]

Yeah.

[Giannis Pappas]

So.

[Christopher DiStefano]

So. Oh, yes. So tell us, tell us about. I think you were just about to get to.

[Giannis Pappas]

No, the wto.

[Christopher DiStefano]

Yes.

[Giannis Pappas]

But it benefits some rich countries, but not so much some poorer countries.

[Christopher DiStefano]

Right, Right.

[Giannis Pappas]

Because the richer countries are going, hey, we're gonna, we're gonna, we're gonna not play by the Rules. We're gonna, you know, we're not gonna let. We're not gonna take, like America, for example, is going. We're not. To protect our farmers. We're not going to take. Take your. Your corn. We're going to take our corn and.

[Christopher DiStefano]

Got it.

[Giannis Pappas]

So they. We didn't play by the rules in the WTO since we run it. They just. They were a referee in a WWE wrestling match. So then some countries are benefiting and other countries are not.

[Christopher DiStefano]

Right.

[Giannis Pappas]

So what happened?

[Christopher DiStefano]

One of the countries who's not benefiting is China.

[Giannis Pappas]

No, China's benefit.

[Christopher DiStefano]

China's benefiting. Who's not benefiting?

[Giannis Pappas]

Brazil.

[Christopher DiStefano]

Okay.

[Giannis Pappas]

Yeah. We put tariffs on their meat. We protected because Brazil's got a lot of meat.

[Christopher DiStefano]

Yeah.

[Giannis Pappas]

Soybean, whatever. Got a lot of fat ass. It's got a lot of fat asses.

[Christopher DiStefano]

Yeah, yeah.

[Giannis Pappas]

And yeah, Thailand, the ladyboy market right now is a little expensive. So we're going back to just dudes and wigs. Yeah, it's dudes and wigs. Because ladyboys are just hard to import.

[Christopher DiStefano]

Yes.

[Giannis Pappas]

There's a 10% tariff on top.

[Christopher DiStefano]

30%.

[Giannis Pappas]

You just want to go back to a guy with a wig.

[Christopher DiStefano]

It's just what it is. Yes.

[Giannis Pappas]

Yeah. Cross dresses are back for a little while. Yeah. It's what it is to save a little money.

[Christopher DiStefano]

Yeah. Yeah. By the way, the reason why Jesse pulled it up, why Asia devalued its currency China, is because it lowered the price of its exports and gained a competitive advantage in the international market. That's why they did it. So just like Jesse said, smart kids got his money with fidelity.

[Giannis Pappas]

He's got. That's what it is. So then what happens is Brazil. It's not working out for Brazil. It's not working out for Russia. It's not working out for India. Right. For whatever reason.

[Christopher DiStefano]

Oh, they're going to come together.

[Giannis Pappas]

Yeah. And that's what happens. That's when the WTO just turns into jail rules and people start ganging up and it turns into factions.

[Christopher DiStefano]

Yes.

[Giannis Pappas]

So now you. You got. You got the. You got NAFTA.

[Christopher DiStefano]

Yep.

[Giannis Pappas]

Which then turns in. In 2020, it turns into something else because they're trying to look out for workers rights.

[Christopher DiStefano]

Nafta. NAFTA turns into the usmca. Donald Trump made it the United States Mexican Canada Agreement. So he just kind of. It's the same thing, but he just made it a little bit more beneficial for the US Because Donald Trump is the president that feels like the United States is always getting shafted.

[Giannis Pappas]

Yeah.

[Christopher DiStefano]

And if he thinks that, then that's what I think. Yeah.

[Giannis Pappas]

So basically with, with a rich guy. With a rich guy who's got a lot of poor friends.

[Christopher DiStefano]

Yeah.

[Giannis Pappas]

And we're always buying them dinner.

[Christopher DiStefano]

Yeah.

[Giannis Pappas]

And we're going like, you know, that's what you expect. But we're going like, I've paid for enough dinners. You guys got to start kicking in a little bit.

[Christopher DiStefano]

Right.

[Giannis Pappas]

That's basically what's going on.

[Christopher DiStefano]

Right.

[Giannis Pappas]

So then bricks comes out and brics is Brazil, Russia, India and China.

[Christopher DiStefano]

Yeah.

[Giannis Pappas]

So they start forming currency.

[Christopher DiStefano]

Yeah.

[Giannis Pappas]

They make their own, they're starting to, they're trying to make their own currency and they're trying, trying to do their own trade agreements. Right now you got South Korea, Japan and China who are starting to strengthen their trade agreements.

[Christopher DiStefano]

So it's got one, one guy that looks safe.

[Giannis Pappas]

Exactly.

[Christopher DiStefano]

It's got one. So that's one guy.

[Giannis Pappas]

That's just one guy. They're going look to bet to retaliate against us. They're strengthening their trade agreements.

[Christopher DiStefano]

You think when they show up to the meeting with the U.S. trump's got to say, okay, which one's from which country?

[Giannis Pappas]

It's just what has to happen.

[Christopher DiStefano]

If they turned around, if they turned around their name cards, you think Trump would say, yeah, so Japan, it's a.

[Giannis Pappas]

It'S a tough taste test. Yeah, it's a tough taste.

[Christopher DiStefano]

Yeah. Say, yeah, I know one of these. Yeah. So I love Asia.

[Giannis Pappas]

So they're retaliating right now, you know, and we're, some would say we're pushing our allies economically into our foes hands. Because the reason why we're pulling the brakes on this is because China got too powerful. And so we feel like China's not playing fair anymore because they got these high tariffs enough. But they're a built up nation.

[Christopher DiStefano]

Yes. These, this tower of war. Right now even you agree, honest, it's about us versus China. The other countries are just there to be there, but it's US versus China. That's what if China says, well, we'll back off. Trump will pull off the tariffs from everybody.

[Giannis Pappas]

That's why Biden kept the tariffs that Trump put in. It's about China. But like Donald Trump does, he goes in hard and he goes in and he just puts tariffs on fucking everybody.

[Christopher DiStefano]

Yeah.

[Giannis Pappas]

So the big critique is like, you're going a little hard, man. Yeah.

[Christopher DiStefano]

If you want.

[Giannis Pappas]

Why are we going to war with Canada, dude?

[Christopher DiStefano]

Yeah.

[Giannis Pappas]

Why do you want to by Greenland, bro? What, what are you doing, bro? Yeah, why, bro? Yeah, why are we putting tariffs on Cambodia, dude, I think he even put a tariff on Antarctica. There's just penguins there. We don't get anything from Antarctica.

[Christopher DiStefano]

Everyone gets it.

[Giannis Pappas]

I think he put a tariff on Mars.

[Christopher DiStefano]

Yeah.

[Giannis Pappas]

I mean, the guy just put a tariff on everybody. You're going like, okay, maybe you going a little too hard, man.

[Christopher DiStefano]

Yeah, what it is.

[Giannis Pappas]

What are you doing?

[Christopher DiStefano]

Dude, he just puts tariffs on people walking in. I mean, dude, anybody, Somebody who wants to step up will get a tariff.

[Giannis Pappas]

Yeah, I mean, the EU. The EU's our greatest friend. And it's like, bang, he's slapping them. And you go, what are you doing, man?

[Christopher DiStefano]

Yeah, so what are you doing?

[Giannis Pappas]

They slap in Vietnam, and Vietnam's our new Chinese. Yeah, we moved a lot of the American companies during COVID Moved their fucking companies to Vietnam.

[Christopher DiStefano]

Some of this might honestly be truthfully, like a little bit of a psychological warfare where he wants the other countries to be like, yo, this guy is crazy. Let's just do what he wants.

[Giannis Pappas]

Is it possible what you hope is that this is a negotiation tactic? This is a game of poker right now. Yeah, it's a game of poker. The problem is Donald Trump doesn't have a poker face. Yeah, he's very predictable. All you got to do is insult them and he goes nuts.

[Christopher DiStefano]

Well, here's the thing, too. Here's what I just want to say. Just a real quick thing is, I want to say is. Yeah, I know, I understand that people are for tariffs, against tariffs. I think ultimately, if we're not economists, which we're not, we really don't know really what we're talking about. We're just taking wild steps. But I will tell you this. Hey, some guy in Italy, you know, in a couple months, gonna get six to eight weeks paid vacation. They're gonna get paternity leave. They're gonna get all that. We don't get any of that. You want to know why we don't get that? Because we pay our debt, pays for your freaking vacation time. Okay, guy? So we want the money back. You got to go to frickin Mykonos for six weeks. And I had to sit there in Disneyland like an. Because I barely get any time off. So also, I know you're going to say, oh, that the. The UK pay taxes higher, Europeans tax higher. And then they. Because of those tax money that the people pay into. That's why they get more time off. That's why they get more freedoms. That's why they get free health care. Well, maybe some of that's true. But what's also true is we pay for a lot of your guy. And so I just want the money back. I want to go to Mykonos too and cheat on my wife.

[Giannis Pappas]

Yeah, but the problem is we set that system up. We said, hey, we want our bases over there, we want to control you guys. We don't got want you guys to have a military more. We don't want Japan.

[Christopher DiStefano]

You should have saved the day in World War II. Instead we have to do it. We were the ones you made us drop that nuke on those people.

[Giannis Pappas]

Yeah, we. That's what's happening. I mean, that's right. I don't know, man. I don't know, man. I don't know. I don't know if we had to do it. I don't know.

[Christopher DiStefano]

Good.

[Giannis Pappas]

Yeah, I don't know. But what's definitely going to happen is if this continues, prices will go up.

[Christopher DiStefano]

Here's the, here's the thing folks. Let me just say this going to.

[Giannis Pappas]

Want to hold on to your Samsung.

[Christopher DiStefano]

Prices are going up a little bit. Prices are going up a little bit. But here's the interesting thing. They are going up. But no matter what way you slice it, if you look back at history, if you look at a 10 year span, even the Great Depression, even the 2008 crisis, even Covid, you're up, you're up right now. It's only five years later you are up from COVID Okay? So just know that you will probably weather this storm because if in fact you lose everything, it's probably because the country's lost everything and the world's ending and it doesn't matter. You're going to have to eat rats to survive anyway. We're going to be catching cannibals so that, so if, if you find yourself with nothing, then just find the fattest person and eat that guy.

[Giannis Pappas]

Yeah.

[Christopher DiStefano]

And just kill that guy and put that guy in your meat freezer. Because that's what it's going to be. So do not worry. You are going to take some losses now. It's going to hurt for a little bit. Donnie T. Said it was going to hurt for a little bit. But here's the good news. Mortgage rates are going down a little bit because now the Fed is going to say we want money pumping back into the economy. So it introduces interesting time. If you want to buy a house, maybe the rates are going to come down a little bit over the next six months. That's possible. If you got put some money in bonds, it's relatively safe. The US Government never defaults on its loans and that's what a bond is. You're just basically giving the government money. So they're not financial advice, we're not financial advisors. I'm just saying, I'm not saying to do that. I'm just saying there's positive things going on. But if you have most of your money in the stock market right now, it's probably going to go down. And you got to ask yourself, do I need that money or not?

[Giannis Pappas]

It has gone down.

[Christopher DiStefano]

It has gone down. And what, what you should what I think just know that historically, I'm not saying it's going to happen this time, but historically, every single time you have eventually gotten your money back, you've eventually the money's been up and the next, you know, couple of weeks are going to tell the story. But if my advice, this is not financial advice, it's just life advice. Don't look, don't look every day because you're going to just get upset. Just don't look. It's like, it's like just, you know, it's like when I got to wake up and pee in the middle of the night and I'm almost positive there's a ghost in my room. I just close my eyes and I find the bathroom and I pee on it.

[Giannis Pappas]

Yeah. The only, the very nerve wracking thing is when you think, okay, what protect what prevents people from going to war with each other? You go, it's inter, it's economic interdependence.

[Christopher DiStefano]

Yes.

[Giannis Pappas]

And if you stop doing that and you start, and everyone starts teaming up with their own stuff, you know, their own little squads, Economic squads.

[Christopher DiStefano]

Yeah.

[Giannis Pappas]

Then, then you're going to, then you start messing with people's money. That's when people get really frustrated.

[Christopher DiStefano]

They get really frustrated, really upset. That's the other thing I will say that's the other boo boo. That's the other thing to just add on because we are history people here. If you look back in history, this is, is not an opinion, it's just a facty wacky. Every time we've had trade wars like this, awards come right after.

[Giannis Pappas]

Because basically this is an act of war.

[Christopher DiStefano]

This is an act of.

[Giannis Pappas]

It is an act of war. It's a way to look at it. You can say this is an act of war.

[Christopher DiStefano]

I mean the same way when we put an embargo on oil to Japan and then Japan said, well now we got to attack you. Yeah, that's kind of what's happening now. It's Not a full embargo, but we're saying, dude, some, some products in China, if you, if you put the tariff on with the already taxed they have with some other stuff, China has to pay like 78% to ship something here. So that's going to be a problemo.

[Giannis Pappas]

Yeah. And you start pushing allies into foes hands and alliances start forming and people might start liking it. And then you got culture involved there. You got.

[Christopher DiStefano]

Every time you say the word foe, you remind me of another three letter F word.

[Giannis Pappas]

Foe and friends, baby. And so this is where we are right now, where America is trying to reclaim itself ourself as the dominant force. And we're trying to bully everybody else back into an order that we like. We're trying to bring, we're trying to onshore companies that were offshored or at least bring them nearshore. Now here's the big question. Will Americans get back on the line?

[Christopher DiStefano]

That's we don't they fit on the line?

[Giannis Pappas]

Yes.

[Christopher DiStefano]

That's the other issue.

[Giannis Pappas]

Can they actually move across their belly and move a product?

[Christopher DiStefano]

Yes. On a belt that we don't know. I don't even know if they can fit into a belt, let alone get on the belt.

[Giannis Pappas]

Now here's another problem with robots coming. Do we even need Americans? Are those jobs gone forever? Is this just a quixotic dream? Big word, Don Quixote. Yeah, it's like a fantasy. Quick Seattle. You know, he was always trying to fight the windmills.

[Christopher DiStefano]

Oh yeah.

[Giannis Pappas]

So quixotic means like, you know, you're delusional. Right? So is this like, I mean, what are we doing? What are we doing? I mean, we got human robots. Those are Chinese.

[Christopher DiStefano]

Right.

[Giannis Pappas]

And then we got real robots, right. Then we got real robots coming, right. That are going to be making. Making stuff. So the guy from Pittsburgh, is he really going back into the factory? I don't know. I'm just asking questions.

[Christopher DiStefano]

Here's the thing, because here I think I hope that you learned something about the history of the tariffs, about what's actually going on in these tariff wars. I hope you learned something and I hope it's just fun for you. But no, honestly, that there's really nothing that we can do here as people to stop a trade war between two first world nations. All you could do is have fun and enjoy your life and try not to look at your money every second of the day because it will give you anxiety. Anxiety. Just know that you're probably okay. And at the end of the day, if you just want to seek comfort Then you go to patreon.com history hyenas. That's where you spend your money. Because that money, that is not a tariff. That is where we're just giving that out to the people.

[Giannis Pappas]

What we, we don't build anything there, but we do provide a service. And that service is to give you entertainment.

[Christopher DiStefano]

We give you.

[Giannis Pappas]

We're in the entertainment business, which is our economy right now. We are an only fans and podcast economy. So go out there and shake your ass or open your mouth, babe.

[Christopher DiStefano]

I'm going to be April 24th, New Haven, Connecticut, College Street Music Hall. April 25th, Albany, the Egg. And then May 29th, Washington, D.C. may 30th, Durham, North Carolina. May 31st, Charleston, South Carolina. And my show September 11th has been moved from MSG arena to MSG Theater. I told you it was going to happen. And it did. And the thing is, the show is almost sold out. So if you want to get tickets to see me in New York, I'm only doing one show. You got to go to ChrisD comedy.com or history I is his backdoor.com and get those tickies. New York is almost sold out. Go get them. Yeah.

[Giannis Pappas]

And just see me in Cleveland, Ohio at hilarities April 18th and 19th. And then I'm taking a break on the road, and then I'll be in Bozeman, Montana in June. But my special will be coming out somewhere soon, and then I'll be back on the road. So that's it.

[Christopher DiStefano]

Yeah, special can come out somewhere soon. And then Yani's going to make his pockets a little lighter. The manager's getting fired now. I hope you learned something. Let us know in the [e-mail] history what you like, what you we didn't like. We always have the most fun [e-mail] history. So we're going to read the newest members of the matriarchy who have just recently joined who are part of our club now. And that's where you have the uncackled episodes. That's where you get a bonus episode. We're going to go further into tariffs. We have an episode with the great Matan on the kid who says he's from Sweden, but he's really from California.

[Giannis Pappas]

Yeah.

[Christopher DiStefano]

So we're having a good time over there. So welcome to the matriarchy. Zach Zussman, Christian Berner. Then we got the last come Bender.

[Giannis Pappas]

What do you think? Style Bender.

[Christopher DiStefano]

Okay. Style Bender.

[Giannis Pappas]

I'm gonna give him a Drexler.

[Christopher DiStefano]

Okay. Big ten tuba player.

[Giannis Pappas]

Big ten tuba Players. A chicken finger. I like it.

[Christopher DiStefano]

Diddy's towel.

[Giannis Pappas]

I love it. Chicken finger.

[Christopher DiStefano]

Chicken finger.

[Giannis Pappas]

Chicken finger is an honor.

[Christopher DiStefano]

Okay, then we got Donald Jingleheimer Trump.

[Giannis Pappas]

Okay.

[Christopher DiStefano]

I don't know what that means, but thank you, Adam Graham. Then we got a twinkle of His Lordship Dylan J. Timothy. Okay, like that. Very funny. Then we got Krubby. MVP.

[Giannis Pappas]

69 MVP is a chicken finger.

[Christopher DiStefano]

I like that.

[Giannis Pappas]

MVP.

[Christopher DiStefano]

Then we got 69 squeak with an acorn piece.

[Giannis Pappas]

Put them on the list.

[Christopher DiStefano]

All right, there we go. Tall guy with a little pee. Then we got Theodore's Fumologist.

[Giannis Pappas]

Very funny.

[Christopher DiStefano]

Robert Aren Meer. Thomas Greco. Ben Scage. Then we got Benjamin Box breather Franklin.

[Giannis Pappas]

Okay.

[Christopher DiStefano]

Okay. Foley line. Then we got Diddy with Dami until Kanye drinks Mommy's glue. Okay, then we got Glue Come. AKA Gay Edgar Hoover. Gay Edgar Hoover would probably just want Sean. Sarah Flores. Then we got Kendrick Fumar's Jinko jeans in the super bowl, right?

[Giannis Pappas]

Yeah, yeah. Drex. Or that. That's a good one. I mean, it's just. If it was closer to super bowl, you're talking maybe on the list.

[Christopher DiStefano]

Well, maybe that's. But this is how far back. Remember, if you're listening here and you're not on the Patreon, we have so many members. You guys are missing a lot here. We have so many members that we're, like two months behind on names because that's.

[Giannis Pappas]

Give him an honorary on the list. For how good?

[Christopher DiStefano]

Honorary on the list.

[Giannis Pappas]

He's going to win, but I'm putting you honorary.

[Christopher DiStefano]

Honorary. All right. Richie Row. Alexis Ribilar. Rudy Kurowski. Be Just here for the content. That's right. So we have.

[Giannis Pappas]

So straight to the back.

[Christopher DiStefano]

Straight to the back. Those people who just want to get here, they don't want anyone to know who they are. They're just here for the content. Listening straight to the back. Like you walk to the back of an adult film. Did Julio's Door.

[Giannis Pappas]

Yeah.

[Christopher DiStefano]

Head down, raincoat on. Then we got Zan, the rice and beans kid who freely uses the N word. Okay, so we cannot. We walked into one there. We don't condone that kind of behavior.

[Giannis Pappas]

Kid who slings the N word around. Yeah, can't do that.

[Christopher DiStefano]

JoJo Bebop. Spencer Underwood. Clue man.

[Giannis Pappas]

Maybe that's a Walked into One award. Maybe we got to do a Walked into One award.

[Christopher DiStefano]

You want to do a Walked into One award?

[Giannis Pappas]

Yeah. That guy won it.

[Christopher DiStefano]

All right, so you're in the Walked into One. Then we got Father Bill. Squeak of the Week's Pink Stink.

[Giannis Pappas]

Drexler.

[Christopher DiStefano]

Drexler Francisco. Call me Sauce Monkey Man. Nerino. All right, all right. Then we got Kippy's hair from the limo video. Okay. Okay. Got a lot of all you garbage guys here. Then we got Pander Express. Like panda, but pander.

[Giannis Pappas]

Pander Express.

[Christopher DiStefano]

Pander Express.

[Giannis Pappas]

I like it. Chicken finger.

[Christopher DiStefano]

Little brown toot with the uncut flute.

[Giannis Pappas]

Okay.

[Christopher DiStefano]

Okay. Shamaya Brown. Devin Westcott. Then we got Cuzzy Wuzzy Bros. F. Stalin. Okay. Rich burger. Mr. Champ. Logan. Then we got Chen. Make no mistake, I play ping pong in Ding Dang Lee. Okay.

[Giannis Pappas]

Drexler.

[Christopher DiStefano]

Then we got cleared hot. Steven Spencer. Austin Medina. Mr. Bat OG Austin Souza. Then we got. Ple. Please go on strike. Wnba.

[Giannis Pappas]

I like the women's basketball.

[Christopher DiStefano]

Okay.

[Giannis Pappas]

But funny.

[Christopher DiStefano]

I mean, the Yukon game last night was great. I mean, but they won by 30.

[Giannis Pappas]

It was blowout.

[Christopher DiStefano]

Make Europe fumeless again. Okay, Proofers. Crematorium. Walk ins welcome.

[Giannis Pappas]

Put it on the list.

[Christopher DiStefano]

Yeah.

[Giannis Pappas]

Walk in is welcome to a crematorium. Is very funny.

[Christopher DiStefano]

We walked into one and. Okay, Amy Fumer. We've had already. Father Billy on my willie. Okay.

[Giannis Pappas]

Okay.

[Christopher DiStefano]

Go to therapy. Then we got Yuka. Make me so horny. We talked about the Yuka app a lot. Episode.

[Giannis Pappas]

Put them on the list already.

[Christopher DiStefano]

Yeah. Then we got what's in the ball?

[Giannis Pappas]

Okay.

[Christopher DiStefano]

Okay. Then we go. I waited six months trying to come up with a funny name. Okay, it's just a name. Okay. Being honest.

[Giannis Pappas]

It's being honest.

[Christopher DiStefano]

Barry Bashior. Then we got AKA Pablo Diablo.

[Giannis Pappas]

Okay.

[Christopher DiStefano]

Evan Hisby. Then we got. I had a leaky roof, but Yanni P. And Chrissy D. Glue gunned it like Marines on Iwo Jima.

[Giannis Pappas]

Put it on the list.

[Christopher DiStefano]

On the list. Okay.

[Giannis Pappas]

Put it on the list. Guy had a leaking roof. And then we glued it back together.

[Christopher DiStefano]

Yeah, Like Marines on Iwo Jima. What it is. Yeah. Okay. Carter Licks. Then we got. My dad still walked into one, so sorry about that. That's an actual slur. And I apologize. I just walked into One Way song. She ain't wrote it all out there. And it just gets you. When it's one word, it's from a different generation. Yeah. Then we got. Okay, Future Tr Trip. Then we got zinned up and the roof is still leaky.

[Giannis Pappas]

Okay, okay.

[Christopher DiStefano]

Jaron Slutchers. Matthew Ramondo. Then we got the funny F word. Sarah Bird. Ahmad Hassan. Then we got Italian Frisbee. Call me a Sauce Wits Monkey. Sauce Wits. Like, okay.

[Giannis Pappas]

Yeah.

[Christopher DiStefano]

Interesting. I like it.

[Giannis Pappas]

I like it.

[Christopher DiStefano]

Then we got Muff Munchkin. Okay.

[Giannis Pappas]

Okay.

[Christopher DiStefano]

Then we got Big Turkey testicles.

[Giannis Pappas]

Put it on the list.

[Christopher DiStefano]

All right. Yeah. Giannis likes it.

[Giannis Pappas]

I like it.

[Christopher DiStefano]

Then we got no Pot Hockey 67, Emmanuel J. Baldez. Then we got Nikki Glazer's Discharge. Yummy. Chrissy, Rub My Tummy. Okay. Kids Just a freak. Wow. Yeah. Then we got Small Piece on my Frank. Dribbles on my Beans when I Pee. All the list. He likes that. Yanni likes that. Then we got Plato Student, because, you know, they liked him. Cute.

[Giannis Pappas]

Yeah.

[Christopher DiStefano]

Then we got New York. Bigger Knocker. New York bigger or not? I don't know. I don't know.

[Giannis Pappas]

Yeah.

[Christopher DiStefano]

Frisbee Dave the Girl Fight. The Gefilte. Fish Slave Way. Sean Chiang. Filter Fish Slave. Sorry, bad read.

[Giannis Pappas]

Yeah.

[Christopher DiStefano]

Then we got Zach, Isis, Harry Glue Gun. Then we got. If I'm for the table, at least give me service of the mouth. That's etiquette. It's just what it is, cuz.

[Giannis Pappas]

Put him on the list.

[Christopher DiStefano]

Okay.

[Giannis Pappas]

Yeah, yeah.

[Christopher DiStefano]

He's just making a point.

[Giannis Pappas]

It's funny.

[Christopher DiStefano]

Then we got Robert Paulson, Glue Chew Promo Code. Hyena Hinas, Xbox Boy, El Stizzy. Then we got the Goys and Girls Club.

[Giannis Pappas]

The Goys.

[Christopher DiStefano]

Goys, like a Jewish thing?

[Giannis Pappas]

Like. Yeah, you're going. Yeah.

[Christopher DiStefano]

Okay, that's very good.

[Giannis Pappas]

Just Chicken Finger.

[Christopher DiStefano]

Then we got Fumare Stoudemire, which we've had Calvin Winkler, Zachary Smith, Drew D. Then we got Weishan Sheehan, Pekinghouse. Okay. Zachary Marnie. Then we got Serotonin.

[Giannis Pappas]

Is it serotonin?

[Christopher DiStefano]

No, Serotonin. Just the. Just. Yeah. And here, look, we got two more pages and then. I think we're caught up.

[Giannis Pappas]

Yeah. No, no, that's from a couple weeks ago.

[Christopher DiStefano]

Okay, so we're almost caught up. We are doing the Word. So just stick with us for a couple more. We're going to have a great list today. You're going to want to list to the end. I'm sure there's some more bangers. Chris D. Cocken Feller. Like cock and feller. Interesting.

[Giannis Pappas]

Christy Cock.

[Christopher DiStefano]

Like Rock and Felly. Saying in a. In a guy.

[Giannis Pappas]

I know. That's good.

[Christopher DiStefano]

It's good, but I don't know.

[Giannis Pappas]

Drexler.

[Christopher DiStefano]

Okay, Drexler. Don Lamit, Diego Sanchez, Luis Viat. Then we got so much Smithtown water, even my coffee, he's white.

[Giannis Pappas]

Drexler. Okay.

[Christopher DiStefano]

Boston mcneil. Then we got. If Yanni's body was the Patreon, send me straight to the back. Okay.

[Giannis Pappas]

Don't understand it.

[Christopher DiStefano]

King Louie's Broken Turd Cutter.

[Giannis Pappas]

Send me straight to the back to bang it out.

[Christopher DiStefano]

Got it?

[Giannis Pappas]

Got it.

[Christopher DiStefano]

King Louie's Broken Turd Cutter. Brian Stewart. Then we got time for Toots and Snoot.

[Giannis Pappas]

Oops I really like because, you know, he's got a kid. Out of broken.

[Christopher DiStefano]

What do you want?

[Giannis Pappas]

I want a Drexler.

[Christopher DiStefano]

All right. Drexler, King Louis, Gay, Honorary directar. Then we got Gavin Brockway. Well, it's Cam Peak, Squeak. And we got. I told my mom to listen to hh now she won't speak to me. That's what it is. Sorry about that.

[Giannis Pappas]

Yeah. She's not in. Yeah. It's not.

[Christopher DiStefano]

It's not for everyone. Loretta, Ellen, Jonathan, Jammy Whammy. Tyler Feimster, Dutch Oven. My Jewish wife walked into wine. Be like that.

[Giannis Pappas]

But here's the thing. It's so bad.

[Christopher DiStefano]

Yeah?

[Giannis Pappas]

There's people. What is it he say? There's people. We can't understand your writing. These people are scamming everyone. Which people? Scaring, I think. Oh, scaring. Who's that? Guests.

[Christopher DiStefano]

Oh, yeah.

[Giannis Pappas]

They're out there.

[Christopher DiStefano]

What is he doing?

[Giannis Pappas]

I don't know. They're all right. Did he come with his guys?

[Christopher DiStefano]

Crazy. H. A couple minutes. All right. Yeah, tell him. Tell him five minutes. Okay. All right. So much. Okay. Time for dudes and Snoop Boobs. Tom's just a. Tom's just a boy soldier for the table. Oh, oh. Tom's just Hobo Hunter. Gavin Brockway. Peak Squeak. Un poco Coco. Zach Falkirth, Big schwug. Daniela Vale. Ashley Lammers. Jake fa Double. Oh, yeah, sorry. Trans Historian, cosplayer, Benedict Arnold. On of.

[Giannis Pappas]

Very good. Drexler.

[Christopher DiStefano]

I like it. Barry, $3. Bill McCock and him.

[Giannis Pappas]

McCocking him.

[Christopher DiStefano]

Yeah. Drexler Pete taking up the ass Buttigieg.

[Giannis Pappas]

Okay.

[Christopher DiStefano]

Calabrese, Cuck Merchant, Brian Bravo, Jacob Dwyer. Oh, Da Vinci is in my stinky. They called me Boof Lee. It's what it is. Okay.

[Giannis Pappas]

Bruce Lee.

[Christopher DiStefano]

Boof Lee, he said. Yeah, okay. Kanye is the real Clayton Bigsby.

[Giannis Pappas]

It's very true.

[Christopher DiStefano]

Zoe Schloggin on some Hoff Blair Schleitzengraph. Okay. Pizzle, shizzle. Hop on the dizzle and fill you with jizzle. It's what it is. All you feel me, my nizzle. Okay. Fuzzy Muzzy was a bear. Fuzzy Wuzzy had so much hair. Fuzzy Wuzzy wasn't on Caliphate pilgrimage over the southern border, was he?

[Giannis Pappas]

Okay, okay.

[Christopher DiStefano]

Ebony Scrooge, shooting your glue gun into your own mouth. AKA Single Stream Recycling.

[Giannis Pappas]

You know where that goes. Get catapult out.

[Christopher DiStefano]

Liz. Sushi on my nips. Because it's what it is. I'm for the table. Okay.

[Giannis Pappas]

Gotta put it on the list.

[Christopher DiStefano]

Okay. On the list.

[Giannis Pappas]

Yeah.

[Christopher DiStefano]

Then we got Mike Hunt, Short bus mechanic. It's a.

[Giannis Pappas]

It's a Drexler chicken finger. And Drexler.

[Christopher DiStefano]

It's a Saratur piece. I don't know what that means.

[Giannis Pappas]

Yeah.

[Christopher DiStefano]

Waka kaka. Flaming hot Cheeto fingers. Tuck her back, Carl. Daughter. Okay. Shaquille. Oatmeal Toaster Bath.

[Giannis Pappas]

Funny.

[Christopher DiStefano]

Tim Clemens, Julie. All right. One more page, guys. And then we are all caught up. Justin Fox, LeBron's Hong Kong kindergarten sings slave songs.

[Giannis Pappas]

He was going for it. Yeah.

[Christopher DiStefano]

All right. Maximilian Lane, Joseph McKinsey. Hammerschmitch. Nicholas Morrison. Big Mike. Squeeze my Dom DeLuise. Ball. Sacagawea. Like ball sack. Yeah. Ball, Sacagawea.

[Giannis Pappas]

Chicken finger.

[Christopher DiStefano]

Chicken finger. Like it. J.C. sawyer, Brian M. Jake R. Then we got Vinny Tia, the Trans Sauce monkey. Like, instead of Venetia. Vinny Tia.

[Giannis Pappas]

Vinny Tia. Get it?

[Christopher DiStefano]

Funny. I like it. Call me Pest. Controlled away on bug chasing.

[Giannis Pappas]

Put him on the list.

[Christopher DiStefano]

List. There you go. Bug chasing. If you guys don't know. Is when you knowingly know someone has HIV and you have unprotected anal sex with them. That's a bug.

[Giannis Pappas]

That's. I would say that's the contender.

[Christopher DiStefano]

They've got leaky Roof Repair LLC. Herz2Brown. Go Birds. Nosa Faratu, Kilika Ama. Alexander Rodriguez, Jacob legenza, Jackson Miller. Five knuckle shuffle on AOC's beef.

[Giannis Pappas]

But other list.

[Christopher DiStefano]

All right.

[Giannis Pappas]

Yeah, it's a thick list.

[Christopher DiStefano]

Matthew Doherty, Jacob Birch, Yanni. Close Eyes to See the Cock Eyes. It's not gay if it happens underwater.

[Giannis Pappas]

Put him on.

[Christopher DiStefano]

I mean, it's just a point that I've never thought about.

[Giannis Pappas]

Yeah.

[Christopher DiStefano]

Doritos Locos Forever. Essay Zo Ryan, Sam. Then we got Kevin Hall. Empress Theodorus Tuchel Juice. Then we got Vivek vc. The Pajit Lays Sheet in the Street. Then we got My History. Hyena's name is in my bio. Oh, thank you. Andrew Kester, Chris Grant. Big One Harrison. Then we got Tuck it Back. Mark. Just call me Caitlyn Clark. Okay? Okay, boys. Pelosi. I just lost the skirt I'm screwed in because make no mistake. Okay, Sean. Then we got Dang Ling Wong. It's a character piece. Then we got Bobby the Throat Goat. Kennedy's Angry voice box.

[Giannis Pappas]

Yeah, we had a. We had that a better one earlier. It's a good one.

[Christopher DiStefano]

Mike Tillen Smith. And then we have Tudy's Big old Dirty Milkers.

[Giannis Pappas]

Yeah, that's right.

[Christopher DiStefano]

Our garbage. And last but not least, we have Winnie The Pooh Puncher 3000.

[Giannis Pappas]

Good one. Chicken finger.

[Christopher DiStefano]

Chicken finger. Okay, so we got. We got a. We got a list today.

[Giannis Pappas]

Got a thick list.

[Christopher DiStefano]

All right, we got a thick list. So let me just read this. Okay, so we. We got on the list shooting your glue gun into your own mouth. AKA Single stream recycling.

[Giannis Pappas]

Contender.

[Christopher DiStefano]

Contender.

[Giannis Pappas]

Yeah.

[Christopher DiStefano]

Susha my nips. Because it's what it is. I'm for the table.

[Giannis Pappas]

Any other day.

[Christopher DiStefano]

Any other day. Okay, so he's out. All right, so let me just put that in. Then we have Kendrick Fumar's Jinko jeans.

[Giannis Pappas]

With Any other day.

[Christopher DiStefano]

Any other day. Six, eight. Squeak with an acorn piece.

[Giannis Pappas]

Chicken finger.

[Christopher DiStefano]

All right.

[Giannis Pappas]

It's great. Any other day.

[Christopher DiStefano]

Okay, so that page is out. So then we have furs per crematorium. Walk INS welcome.

[Giannis Pappas]

I like the walk INS welcome, but any other day.

[Christopher DiStefano]

Any other day.

[Giannis Pappas]

Yeah. Drexler.

[Christopher DiStefano]

Yuka. Making me so horny.

[Giannis Pappas]

Drexler.

[Christopher DiStefano]

Drexler.

[Giannis Pappas]

Good one.

[Christopher DiStefano]

I had a leaky roof, but Yanni P. And Chrissy D. Glue gunned it like Marines on Iwo Jima.

[Giannis Pappas]

Contender.

[Christopher DiStefano]

Contender. So we're gonna circle him. Then we got big turkey testicles.

[Giannis Pappas]

Jesse loves it, but it's getting chicken.

[Christopher DiStefano]

Chicken finger. Okay, Then we got small piece. So my franks dribbles on my beans when I pee.

[Giannis Pappas]

Another good one. Chicken finger.

[Christopher DiStefano]

Chicken finger. Okay, so that's out. Then we got. I'm for the table. At least give me service of the mouth. That's etiquette. It's just what it is.

[Giannis Pappas]

Cuz I'm contending. That one. I like it.

[Christopher DiStefano]

All right.

[Giannis Pappas]

Yeah. I like just more than service. Yeah.

[Christopher DiStefano]

Yeah. Okay, so we got that. So we got three. Call me. Pest control the way on bug chasing.

[Giannis Pappas]

Contender.

[Christopher DiStefano]

Contender. Okay, we like him.

[Giannis Pappas]

Yes.

[Christopher DiStefano]

Five knuckle shuffle on AOC's beef.

[Giannis Pappas]

We're gonna. We're gonna chicken. We're gonna drexer that. Drexer. Good one. Good one.

[Christopher DiStefano]

It's not gay if it happens underwater.

[Giannis Pappas]

I like that one.

[Christopher DiStefano]

I like that. Yeah. Okay.

[Giannis Pappas]

Contender.

[Christopher DiStefano]

All right, so let me just read them out again. Call me. Pest control the way I'm bug chasing. It's not gay if it happens underwater. I had a leaky roof, but Yanni P. And Chrissy D. Glue gunned it like it's Marines on Iwo Jima. For the table. At least give me service. Of mouth. That's etiquette. It's just what it is, cuz. And then shooting your glue gun into your own mouth. AKA Stringles. Single stream recycling.

[Giannis Pappas]

Okay. Single stream recycling. Still in.

[Christopher DiStefano]

They're in.

[Giannis Pappas]

Yeah, that's still in. For the table.

[Christopher DiStefano]

We're going to Drexler it for the tables. Out.

[Giannis Pappas]

Yeah, we're going to Drexler for the table. Okay, and what do we got?

[Christopher DiStefano]

And then we got. And then we have. I had a leaky roof, but Yanni P. And Chrissy D Glue gunned it like two marines on Iwo Jima.

[Giannis Pappas]

Very good. But you're getting Drexler getting dragged. Any other day, guys.

[Christopher DiStefano]

Any other day, guys. So. And then we have. Call me pest control, the way I'm bug chasing. And it's not gay if it happens underwater.

[Giannis Pappas]

Those are good ones. Okay, so we got three left, right?

[Christopher DiStefano]

We have three left. My pick is it's not gay if. Unless it happens on underwater.

[Giannis Pappas]

What are you going? I like the bug chaser. Yeah. Yeah.

[Christopher DiStefano]

All right. It's come down to Yanni then.

[Giannis Pappas]

I also like the single stream recycling.

[Christopher DiStefano]

We have to pick one coming in his own mouth.

[Giannis Pappas]

It's single stream recycling.

[Christopher DiStefano]

All right, so I'm gonna leave. I'll leave.

[Giannis Pappas]

It's a good one.

[Christopher DiStefano]

You pick.

[Giannis Pappas]

Yeah, it's a tough one. I'm gonna call. I'm gonna Single stream recycling. God damn it. Bug chasing. Those are my two.

[Christopher DiStefano]

Okay, Underwater.

[Giannis Pappas]

Underwater is great, but at any of the day.

[Christopher DiStefano]

So between shooting your glue. Shooting your glue gun into your. Into your own mouth, AKA single stream recycling, and call me Pe Away on bug chasing.

[Giannis Pappas]

God, those are too fun.

[Christopher DiStefano]

What do we think, Jesse? What do you like out of those two?

[Giannis Pappas]

I'm on record for bug chaser.

[Christopher DiStefano]

Yeah, I'll go bug chasing. That's the winner.

[Giannis Pappas]

That's the winner.

[Christopher DiStefano]

All right.

[Giannis Pappas]

So it's gonna go single stream.

[Christopher DiStefano]

So. So congratulations. Call me Pest control the way on bug chase. And you can see your name up in lights at History Hyenas is back. History Hyenas is back Dot com. You are the ppw. You won. Congratulations.

[Giannis Pappas]

Yeah.