The wildest samurai story you’ve never heard w/ PACMan Jones

Summary

History Hyenas: The Wildest Samurai Story You’ve Never Heard with PACMan Jones

Podcast Information:

• Title: History Hyenas with Chris Distefano and Yannis Pappas
• Hosts: Chris Distefano and Yannis Pappas
• Episode: The Wildest Samurai Story You’ve Never Heard w/ PACMan Jones
• Release Date: March 20, 2025
• Description: Comedians Yannis Pappas and Chris Distefano blend history and humor, delivering engaging and entertaining discussions on various historical topics.

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1. Introduction to the Episode

[02:14] Chrissy Chaos:
"They love each other. Now we have a wild episode for you today. We're going to take you through the history of the samurais. We're also going to talk about the very first and maybe only ever black samurai besides RZA from the Wu Tang Clan. And we're also going to talk to you about the 47 Ronin, the true story of the 47 Ronin."

Hosts Chris and Yannis set the stage for an exhilarating dive into samurai history, promising a blend of educational insights and comedic flair.

2. Yasuke: The Black Samurai

[26:41] Giannis Pappas:
"Did you know that there was a black samurai that wasn't Method Man? Yes, exactly."

[27:03] Chrissy Chaos:
"So what we're talking about here is Yasuke, a black African man who arrived in Japan in 1579 through a Portuguese Jesuit missionary named Alessandro Valignano."

[28:12] Chrissy Chaos:
"Yasuke is this man who arrived in Japan and was immediately a sensation. The Japanese village was overwhelmed with his presence, much like when someone extraordinary arrives in a small community."

[33:04] Chrissy Chaos:
"Yasuke served Oda Nobunaga, one of Japan's most powerful daimyos (feudal lords). He was not officially a samurai in the traditional sense but served Nobunaga faithfully, showcasing exceptional fighting skills and loyalty."

[33:57] PacMan Jones:
"Wu Tang Clang ain't nothing to fuck with."

The hosts explore Yasuke's unique position in Japanese history, debating his status as a samurai and highlighting his remarkable journey from Africa to the heart of samurai culture.

3. The Story of the 47 Ronin

[14:43] PacMan Jones:
"There's nothing we can."

[19:38] Giannis Pappas:
"He really was."

[20:39] PacMan Jones:
"The Robert De Niro's in that movie?"

[21:49] PacMan Jones:
"Japanese 1. Japanese 2. Japanese 3."

[25:00] Giannis Pappas:
"The 47 Ronin is a wild story of honor, revenge, and ultimate sacrifice. After their lord, Asano Naganori, was forced to commit seppuku (ritual suicide) for attacking a court official, the 47 samurai became ronin (masterless samurai)."

[24:32] Chrissy Chaos:
"How do you figure this guy was done?"

[25:33] PacMan Jones:
"They just like they use their own deaths as weapons."

The episode delves into the legendary tale of the 47 Ronin, emphasizing themes of honor and loyalty inherent in samurai culture. The hosts recount how these samurai plotted revenge against the court official responsible for their lord's disgrace, ultimately leading to their own honorable deaths.

4. Cultural Comparisons and Humor

[04:21] PacMan Jones:
"And we're going to talk about that. They did have sex with each other. And listen, it's just one of those things."

[06:19] Chrissy Chaos:
"Now, samurai culture was all about honor, but in reality, these guys were brutal. They were murderers, no different than the brutality of knights in medieval Europe."

[14:06] PacMan Jones:
"They were really fashionable. They wore these, like, leather outfits and they looked really cool."

[25:36] Chrissy Chaos:
"But samurais do have their moments. They used to be these peaceful, wise warriors, but they'd also be brutal when it came to protecting their honor."

Throughout the discussion, Chris and Yannis interweave historical facts with sharp humor, drawing parallels between samurai and modern-day warriors like NFL players. Their playful banter highlights the timeless nature of honor and brutality in warrior cultures.

5. Conclusion

[93:21] PacMan Jones:
"And why come back from 16, you know, like shutting up schooled like a letter stop. It's just a warrior thing."

[94:02] PacMan Jones:
"The samurais. Yeah, they did. They thought pure love was between man and man."

[94:10] PicMan Jones:
"They kill themselves."

[94:15] Chrissy Chaos:
"That's why Lexus is such a good car."

[94:34] Chrissy Chaos:
"We got great episodes there. We've brought back walk and talks. We, we're doing a lot of [e-mail] history hyenas."

In wrapping up, the hosts reflect on the complexities of samurai culture, acknowledging both their honorable and brutal aspects. They emphasize that history often blurs the lines between myth and reality, underlining that samurais were as human as any other group, capable of both wisdom and brutality.

Notable Quotes:

• [02:14] Chrissy Chaos:
  "We're going to take you through the history of the samurais... The very first and maybe only ever black samurai besides RZA from the Wu Tang Clan."

• [25:00] Giannis Pappas:
  "The 47 Ronin is a wild story of honor, revenge, and ultimate sacrifice."

• [33:57] PacMan Jones:
  "Wu Tang Clang ain't nothing to fuck with."

• [93:21] PacMan Jones:
  "Why can't we just chill? We have it so good... How come we can't just get along and just exchange cultures and just be happy?"

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Final Thoughts: History Hyenas delivers a compelling mix of historical exploration and comedic insights in this episode. By spotlighting lesser-known stories like Yasuke, the black samurai, and the legendary 47 Ronin, Chris Distefano and Yannis Pappas provide listeners with an engaging narrative that is both informative and entertaining. Their candid discussions, peppered with humor and personal anecdotes, make complex historical events accessible and relatable to a modern audience.

Whether you’re a history buff or just in for some laughs, this episode promises a unique perspective on samurai culture that you won’t want to miss.

Transcript

[Chrissy Chaos]

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[Giannis Pappas]

That was Shaq, bro. I was protecting Shaq.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Wait, what?

[Giannis Pappas]

I didn't know Shaq was with me on that trip.

[Pacman Jones]

Protecting Shaq. Who's. Who needs to protect Shaq Sa. Because Japanese just sounds like you're lifting boxes and you throw out your back.

[Chrissy Chaos]

It's what it is. Because. And even though I do love and support the Japanese culture, make absolutely zero mistake, if I eat sushi, I do do it with a fork.

[Pacman Jones]

Yes, you do.

[Chrissy Chaos]

A chopstick is disrespectful to my grandpa who fought the Japanese in World War II, and I won't disrespect him by using chopsticks. But I do really like the food because make no mistake, fish is healthy.

[Pacman Jones]

Because we're going to talk about the samurais today in the samurai culture, and we're not going to do it by bringing in someone from the Wu Tang Clan. We're going to bring in someone later who's got a leak rook Pac Man Jones. So stick around for that. Yes, but blacks do love samurai culture and the Japanese now do love black culture. They're very good at breakdancing. Yes, there's something about those two cultures that they just love each other.

[Chrissy Chaos]

They love each other. Now we have a wild episode for you today. We're going to take you through the history of the samurais. We're also going to talk about the very first and maybe only ever black samurai besides RZA from the Wu Tang Clan. And we're also going to talk to you about the 47 Ronin, the true story of the 47 Ronin. These are two wild stories. So you're going to want to stick around. And then, as Gianna said, Pac Man Jones is coming in and it's. We might, both Giannis and I might get punched in the face because we did pre. Before the episode started. We did, we did Piss in a cup. And we're going to see if he wants to buy it off us because the kid likes to use other people's urine to pass drug tests in the NFL.

[Pacman Jones]

Yeah. If you don't know who Pac Man Jonah Jones is, he's a. He was a former cornerback in the NFL. His resume in football is extensive, but not as extensive as his incarceration record. Yeah, the kid has really racked up a resume. I think the last time he got arrested was 20, 20, 24.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Yeah, it's. It's what it is.

[Pacman Jones]

So he's still wild.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Yeah, he gets arrested now. Japan, as you know. You know, Japan is. It's this country.

[Pacman Jones]

It's an island.

[Chrissy Chaos]

It's an island. It was an isolationist nation for a very long time. They just cut themselves off, which is the rest of the world.

[Pacman Jones]

Yeah. Because the rest of Asia, you know, didn't do that. No, but I mean, they also, like, you know, they're like, if they were isolationist and how did all those other Japanese looking people get all around that place?

[Chrissy Chaos]

Yeah, I don't understand.

[Pacman Jones]

I don't understand how that happened.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Yeah, because when I. Yeah, because you.

[Pacman Jones]

Look at the Aborigines, they come from little islands and stuff, they look different because they were isolated. But the Japanese, it's like they're all over Asia. They look like that.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Yeah, it's one of those things where it's like, look, I'll get. I understand, I understand that other countries, you know, have different cultures and all that stuff, but I mean, because if you're Asian, I mean, it's just. You really don't know. Japanese, Chinese, Korean, they know. Yeah, they know the difference.

[Pacman Jones]

Yeah.

[Chrissy Chaos]

But I can't tell the difference at all. The one thing, only thing I know is Japanese got their hair up in a bunch and Koreans and Chinese like bangs. That's what I know. The difference is. But they all do wear sandals and hover with their asshole a millimeter off the floor to smoke cigarettes in the back of restaurants.

[Pacman Jones]

That's what they do.

[Chrissy Chaos]

That's all.

[Pacman Jones]

Yeah, they're compact people, they're hairless people.

[Chrissy Chaos]

And, and they're beautiful people and they love chopsticks and soup.

[Pacman Jones]

Yeah. But at different times in history, they're no different from any of the rest of humanity. And that's why we love doing this show, because we go through history, we show that we're all the same. We all got leaky roofs, humanity acts the same. History is brutal. And it's gay. And it's gay. And there's a lot of gay. The samurais are fucking each other.

[Chrissy Chaos]

There's nothing we can. Yes, that's true.

[Pacman Jones]

That's true.

[Chrissy Chaos]

And we're going to talk about that. They did have sex with each other. And listen, it's just one of those things. Asian people, again, I respect them, I like them, their food is different and they have things in common with. Like I said, they typically have. Have a very distinct look. I know Asian people can tell other Asians apart, but if we're going to be honest, white people really can't and black people really can't tell other Asians apart. It's very difficult. So they do look alike. They do have. They are very family oriented people, which is a beautiful thing. And they also do get money subsidized from their government to beat us in the housing war. And they buy the houses in cash and the mortgage rates don't affect them. And I do keep getting bought out. I keep getting outbid on homes by other Asian people. And that's just a simple fact. It's an s. Low ks that's. They're not fighting fair, right?

[Pacman Jones]

They don't fight fair.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Yeah.

[Pacman Jones]

And that's the thing about the whole samurai culture that we're going to talk about is like, okay, everyone knows the samurais. Everyone. It's become part of pop culture. People love myth. The myth, the mythology of samurais, like honor I'm gonna do. But they were just brutal. No different than the brutality of knights in medieval Europe. You know, they had, you know, oh, chivalry. The myth of the chivalrous knight. There's like the myth of the honorable samurai. These guys were murderers. They would lop off heads of kids, lop off heads of women, lop off kids of dogs and cats. And I'm an American and I'm a dog lover, much like a white lady. Once you start lopping off the heads of dogs, you lose me. Yeah. I can lop off white men all you want, but once you lop off a dog, then that's it, you know.

[Chrissy Chaos]

That it's not okay. Yeah.

[Pacman Jones]

It's like Michael Vick will always be worse to me than Charles Manson because he hurt dogs. Yes.

[Chrissy Chaos]

And so Charles Manson actually never killed anyone.

[Pacman Jones]

He never killed anyone.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Now that's a. That's a truth. Bader Ginsburg.

[Pacman Jones]

No, no.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Now here's the leaky roof. Leaky roof. Now, samurai, the word samurai means to serve.

[Pacman Jones]

Yes.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Now samurais, you know, the show shogun is very popular right now in fx. And, and they do a good job Shogun of going through some of the, you know, specific points in history of, you know, shoguns are like different classes of samurai. And so samurai, you know, it means to serve. And they had their famous sword, the katana. So they were good with swords. They were good fighters.

[Pacman Jones]

Katana.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Katana.

[Pacman Jones]

Have you looked at houses in katana?

[Chrissy Chaos]

Yeah, because I keep getting outbid by the Chinese. So. So they. So they had these swords and they were very, very good duelers and fighters, just like any other warrior classroom history. But they were also bureaucratic because they were also in government and they were also smart, smart kids. So. And they were trained people. These kids were trained as little kids. Samurai. And then they grew up and they were just that warrior class and they were qqq.

[Pacman Jones]

Yeah, they ended up becoming more administrative. Administrative after the gun came to Japan via the Portuguese.

[Chrissy Chaos]

But yeah, by the way, the Portuguese we're going to do more episodes on. They were bad people back then. They were bad. They brough slavery to the pretty much the United States. You could trace that back. And they brought guns to Japan. So I do want to start attacking the Portuguese a little bit here on this show.

[Pacman Jones]

Yeah. Have you ever noticed that Portugal just kind of looks like the Gaza Strip of Spain? Yeah. When you look at a map.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Yeah.

[Pacman Jones]

It's just like a little strip in there.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Yeah. You know, if you took a boat due east from New York City and it didn't veer, of course you would hit Portugal. We're in the same latitude. They're the New York City of the east.

[Pacman Jones]

That's a nice little what you call HHFOD for you geography buffs out there.

[Chrissy Chaos]

That's what it is.

[Pacman Jones]

So the samurai, they started.

[Chrissy Chaos]

We are the geography girls.

[Pacman Jones]

We are the geography girls. The samurai, they start out in Japanese culture as there's Japan is a mountainous island, you know, hard to conquer, hard to unite. Right. So there is this emperor and the samurai start out as sort of tax collectors for the emperor. They got to go up in the mountains and shake down these peasants, get their rice, make sure they're paying their due, you know, kind of dirt bags. Then the samurai, who are these trained killers decide, hey man, we're the toughest guys around. We should start running stuff.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Yeah.

[Pacman Jones]

So they start taking control and they take control from the emperor and the emperor becomes more of just a figurehead, not really in power. And these different samurai warlords just start running shit. Just like the knights. They're basically Asia's knights. Yes, that's what they are in the feudal Japan World.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Yes, they are, basically, if you think about the Knights Templar, but they like to sit on the floor.

[Pacman Jones]

They take their shoes off, which is nice. Going to the house. Yeah.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Because if you want. I think it's best off to keep a Japanese household where you just take your shoes and socks off and you sit on the floor. Yeah, that's nice.

[Pacman Jones]

Yeah, that's what. That's what they did. That's the only difference. And you know. Yeah. I mean, their faces are a little different. Most people theorize that Asian faces are that way because of the cold weather, the distribution of the face.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Is that true?

[Pacman Jones]

Or the dust in the eyes. Yeah. Or like the sandstorms or whatever. Yeah.

[Chrissy Chaos]

So you're. So you're saying that's how Japanese. That's how Asian faces were formed? Because I thought it was because they were in the sun most of the time. Dead serious.

[Pacman Jones]

That's. That. That's another theory as well. But it's all evolutionary. There's actually a couple of African tribes that also have the. That extra lip on the eye. Yeah. I don't know what it's called, but it's like. Yeah. They said for the same reasons. They feel like they evolved that way to keep the sun out of their face or the dust out of their face or whatever.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Right.

[Pacman Jones]

So we're all the same. We just evolved differently.

[Chrissy Chaos]

That's what it is.

[Pacman Jones]

We're lighter skinned because we want to absorb more vitamin D. Right. Or something like that. And then the blacks are black because it was hot and they have more melanin. They got more melanin.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Yeah. So because I think the blacks culture. I think that because Africa was. Is. Does get more sun, so their skin had to evolve. So it's just evolutionary stuff.

[Pacman Jones]

And then the Indians took the darker skin, but also white people's hair because nobody knows.

[Chrissy Chaos]

And it's just what it is.

[Pacman Jones]

It's just like they're a combo of both.

[Chrissy Chaos]

And that's why they're my favorite porn category.

[Pacman Jones]

Yeah, they.

[Chrissy Chaos]

That's why they call me Chrissy Calcutta. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So. Okay. Because. So the samurais, I mean, now they're warlords. They're warlords. And they are. The thing is about them is they really get popular Samurai, like in later years, like Staten Island, New York, when.

[Pacman Jones]

The Wu Tang Clang formed.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Yeah. I mean, Sergio Chacon asked to come on this show today, and we should have had him on because he loves Wu Tang and he could have talked about samurai. Yeah.

[Pacman Jones]

He loves Wu Tang and South American revolutionaries who are communists.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Yeah. Sergio Chacon is going to win, is going to come on the show probably next week. And we shout out to all the people who [e-mail] history making the funniest, the absolute funniest AI generated memes Giannis and I have ever seen in our life. We post them periodically on Instagram. That is all from patreon.com history hyenas. Now, they're getting Sergio involved in them, and they are 10 out of absolute tents.

[Pacman Jones]

They're funny. And also, if you're in New York and you want to train, you want to box, Sergio does it in Westchester and New York. Just hit him up on the gram. He doesn't have a business card.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Yeah, he doesn't have a business card because he's just Sergio Conan. This is just how they are.

[Pacman Jones]

It's just. It's what it is. Different cultures have different things.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Different cultures have different things. But I will tell you, because Sergio Chacon, he does live. He does have Japanese wisdom to him, because when you talk to the kid, Sergio Chacon, he's lived a tumultuous life at times, and he's learned a lot, and he's been sober 10 years. And I just give the kid a lot of credit because every time I talk to him, he knows how to come from a place of balance and peace and wisdom. And I respect that.

[Pacman Jones]

Yeah, it's very respectable.

[Chrissy Chaos]

I do. I respect it because he's a Puerto Rican samurai. He's one of those things that when you talk, when you're texting with him, you say, this. This man has the wisdom, truly, of an Asian man, if you didn't know what he was. And then if you talk to him on the phone, you're like, I'm talking to Rosie Perez.

[Pacman Jones]

Yeah, he does have a thick accent.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Pacman Jones]

So samurai's civil war. I mean, it's just constant civil war in Japan. They're all fighting, and samurais are fighting each other, right? And they train from when they're little, and they got these swords, like Chrissy said, and they were made in a special way where they just kept folding them and folding them and folding them and folding them till they, like, had all this nice flexibility. And they were these special swords, and they were good at taking off people's heads, which these kids, the Japanese love heads, but not in the way you think. They love giving head, but not in the way you think.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Not the way you think. Even though it's one of those things they love. And it's really kind of. It's tough for me to understand because they do love chopping off heads, but yet they don't love giving heads, AKA blowjobs, Even though they always have their hair up in a bun, which is the universal symbol if I want to suck your cock.

[Pacman Jones]

It's a very good point.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Yeah.

[Pacman Jones]

They always do have their hair kind of up.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Yeah.

[Pacman Jones]

Even the samurais, like, had their hair tied back.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Yeah. And it's one of those things where, if I'm going to be honest with you, is I did order a full samurai alpha for us, but it's not coming to March 26th. So what we're going to do is throw on that outfit and talk about a completely different topic in about two weeks. But we are just going to have our samurai outfits on.

[Pacman Jones]

Now, the samurais. Yeah, they did. They thought pure love was between man and man.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Is that truly what they believe?

[Pacman Jones]

True.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Yeah.

[Pacman Jones]

And so. And they didn't trust the women. It was more. A lot of the marriages or whatever, relationships were kind of. Yeah. Political or whatever. And the real pure love was man on man.

[Giannis Pappas]

Sure.

[Pacman Jones]

So it was said that even samurai slept with their swords by their bed just so they. Because they were so very skeptical and paranoid about the woman killing them.

[Chrissy Chaos]

So in other words, the kids love sword fights in more ways than one.

[Pacman Jones]

They love to sword fight more way than. Yeah, exactly. Yeah.

[Chrissy Chaos]

So that's the way you could just.

[Pacman Jones]

Yeah, yeah. They're like, are we having an honorable fight with swords? Which ones?

[Chrissy Chaos]

Yeah, which ones?

[Pacman Jones]

Our swords between our legs or our metal?

[Chrissy Chaos]

Yeah. It's one of those things where they're one of the only cultures where after just a nice fight with the katanas, a fight to the death, they would just kiss each other on the lips a little.

[Pacman Jones]

They did.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Yeah.

[Pacman Jones]

They were really fashionable. They wore these, like, leather outfits and they looked really cool. And some of them even painted their faces and wore makeup. One of the most brutal samurais, actually, they said often look like a girl because he wore so much makeup and lipstick because he wanted to look good. They wanted to look good in case they were killed. They put incense in their helmets just in case their heads got lopped off. They wanted their head to smell nice. Yeah. For the guy that killed them and presented their head to whatever warlord they were serving.

[Chrissy Chaos]

That was a big thing in Japanese culture, is they did believe a lot in honor. Everything was about honor, honor, honor in Japan. It still is. It's all about honor. So there's a story I want to talk to you about. Do you know the story of the 47 Ronin.

[Pacman Jones]

Tell the people about it.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Okay, so first of all, let me tell you what a Ronin is.

[Pacman Jones]

Now, was that a movie that, like, Matt Damon played an Asian guy? Because I know people got upset about that.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Yeah, No, I don't know. That was the one where he just. It was something. That one was called, like the Great Wall of China, where it was just Matt Damon running around with a Chinese haircut.

[Pacman Jones]

Nat, that's really funny that they chose Matt David or I think one of them was Tom Cruise. Was it Tom Cruise or Matt David?

[Chrissy Chaos]

Tom Cru. Tom Cruz was the Last Samurai.

[Pacman Jones]

Yeah, he's the Last Samurai. And he's just. They. He made him an Asian guy.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Yeah, it's just what it is. Well, Tom, because here's what they do.

[Pacman Jones]

Sally Wong wasn't available yet.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Yeah, it's. Yeah, she just wasn't available yet. Yeah. And it's just what it is that she. And they did give her the part, but then they. She asked too many guys to sign NDAs way song. Okay, so here's the thing. Yeah. Is.

[Pacman Jones]

Yeah.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Okay. Yeah.

[Giannis Pappas]

Yeah.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Oh, yeah. So Patty the Fatty's coming in. Cuz, make no mistake, if Patty the Fatty, AKA Patty Clips, AKA Patty Sama was around in ancient Japan, they. Instead of cutting off his head, they would have cut off his butt. Yeah, they would have just offered his butt. Just get that butt in. Get that butt in the wide shot.

[Pacman Jones]

Yeah.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Cuz, I mean, make no mistake, you better hide that butt from Pac Man Jones when he walks in. All right, thank you. What's. What's your name, hon? Morgan is our new beautiful intern here. Morgan's doing a great job. Goddess. The goddess to raps. Morgan's an NYU student and she's going to learn a lot from Pat. But make no mistake, Pat's gonna learn a lot from her because the girl went to NYU and Pat went to community college on Staten Island.

[Pacman Jones]

That's just what it is.

[Chrissy Chaos]

So this girl's gonna teach Patty?

[Pacman Jones]

Yeah, yeah. Pac Man Joan gets here, he's probably gonna hit on her.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Yeah, it's.

[Pacman Jones]

Yeah, it's just what it is. We got Pacman Jones coming in.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Thank you, Morgan. Appreciate it. Do you have the Bay Ridge Boys card? I don't want to lose that. Do you have it, Pat? You got the card? Because what happens is, in my family, I'll give my girlfriend my credit card and then I never see it again.

[Pacman Jones]

That's right.

[Chrissy Chaos]

I never see it again. But I do, then I just do have thousands of dollars in charges from the store. Rainbow.

[Pacman Jones]

If you're from New York. You get that? Yeah.

[Chrissy Chaos]

What is Puerto Rican? Girls love Rainbow and Mandy's.

[Pacman Jones]

They love Mandy's and Rainbow. And if they're shopping for boys, like I said, Modell's is. Pull Puerto Rican Bloomingdale's.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Yeah. But models did go out of stock. Models went out of business. Business in the New York area. And that was a very, very sad day. I honestly think that was an even worse day than when Tony Hinchcliffe called it the island of garbage. Yeah, it's more people were upset about that.

[Pacman Jones]

Yeah, it's tough.

[Chrissy Chaos]

They were saying when I asked Liz, you know, my, my mother in law, I said, do you care if Tony said the island of garment? She goes, no, it doesn't matter. I just wanted to reopen Modell so I could buy my son a shirt.

[Pacman Jones]

Yeah, it was, it's, it's. That was almost as sad in the Puerto Rican culture as when one of the guys loses a snake. If he loses a snake, it's tough for them.

[Chrissy Chaos]

It's tough for them.

[Pacman Jones]

Yeah. If he crawls into the walls, it's tough.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Okay, so let me tell you about the 47 Ronin. This has been made into different movies and, you know, different in pop culture, but it's a wild story. So what a ronin actually is what that word means is. It is. It is a. A masterless samurai. It's basically a samurai because they are samurai. One thing about them is they are locked into one master their whole life like an avatar. When they connect with that flying creature. That's what samurais are. They are locked into one master. And when that master dies, a lot of samurais would commit seppuku or seppuku. How do you say it? Seppukuku. Sudoku. Yeah, sudoku. Sudoku. Which is them killing themselves, honorably killing themselves. So the 47 Ronin, OK, so this story. So a ronin is a masterless samurai. Some of these guys who don't honor kill themselves, then they're called ronin. They're walking around, they have the strength and skills of a samurai, but they got no master. So they're just out there. So there was this guy, I'm taking 1701, okay? There was this guy, Lord Asano Nagan Hori, and he was the daimo of Eiko. What a daimo is, is like a, basically like a little like kingdom within a kingdom. It's like, you know, we got the kingdom of Japan, but then the daimo, like the different big time ruling families. Like, you know, the Gotti's would be daimos of queens. So what he did Edo Castle Ito is modern day Japan. So there was 1701, we're in Edo, aka Japan. And this guy, Lord Asano Naganori, he had. He had this big party at this Edo castle. And this guy, Kira Yoshinaka, who was a high ranking court official, got into a fight with Asano. Got into like a big fight. People don't really know what it was about. Some people say it was because Kira, Kira wanted to like, you know, him to pay like a debt. And Asana was like, I don't owe you that money, blah, blah, blah, blah. But let's be honest because samurai's as we've educated you want. It was probably something gay, right? It was probably some type of unwanted advance or it was one of those things was like, how about I tell your wife that you like it in the butt, right? You know, right. That you like me. That that's just what it is. Because you like a little chopstick in the ass.

[Pacman Jones]

Yes. So.

[Chrissy Chaos]

So what happened was, is they got into a fight and Asano attacks Kira with a sword inside the Shogun's palace. Which is a.

[Pacman Jones]

No, no, whoa.

[Chrissy Chaos]

You can not do that. You can't be having beef like that inside the sacred palace, especially pulling out your sword. You can't pull out your bladed sword. You could pull out your sword, but that's got to be in the bathroom behind closed doors, right? Pull out, you know. So Sana was immediately by the high courts sentenced to Sepko. He immediately was like, what it is? You gotta now honor kill yourself. That's what you gotta do. And so he honor kills himself. And the people think, okay fine, you know what it happens. This is our law. This is what happens in Japan. Gotta honor kill yourself. What can you do? It's slow ks. But the people of Kira Yoshinaka's people take it even further. For some reason, they make him conf. They take all his lands, they take his family lands and then they leave his samurais all with no, not only no master, but now no land. So they basically are made them Ronan.

[Pacman Jones]

The Robert De Niro's in that movie?

[Chrissy Chaos]

Yes. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Pacman Jones]

There was a movie named Ronin with Roberto.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Was it about samurais?

[Pacman Jones]

No. Oh, I think it was just his name.

[Chrissy Chaos]

So what happened was. So what happened was is these kids just. It's very similar constant to how if Donald Trump would have just pardoned Biden on the way out, there wouldn't be so many problem. I'm sorry. If Joe Biden would have pardoned Donald Trump on the way out, there wouldn't be so many issues. But now Donald Trump's on warpath and he's trying to reverse Biden's pardons because he said he signed it with an auto pen. And it's just one of these things where it's like power and ego taints everything. Because all Kira Yoshinaka had to do was say, you know what? You attacked me. Now Asano's got to commit suicide and that's it. But he wanted a step further. Took his land, took his samurais. And then the samurais who are under Asano Naganori say, okay, you know what? Asano Naganori had a brother. They say, why don't we just, how about this? Let his brother be our leader. Let his brother be our leader. He disrespected you. His brother won't. His brother's a good kid. Blah, blah, blah, blah. So, Asana, the names are hard to remember. Yeah.

[Pacman Jones]

Japanese 1. Japanese 2. Japanese 3.

[Chrissy Chaos]

So head Japanese. The top Japanese guy. The top Japanese. Yeah. Ichiro, the top Japanese guy. Well, show Ohtani.

[Pacman Jones]

Yeah. Ohtani said, tamatsui.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. The TJ to top. So, so, so, so he says, they think we're gonna let the brother of the guy who had to commit seppuku, he's gonna be our new leader. So instead what they do is they go back to Edo Castle, thinking, oh, they'll let the brother, you know, in front of the high council, they'll let the brother be our new samurai. All will be good. They put the brother in prison. They say, fuck you. Now the brother's in prison. So now you got these warriors who are like, who are all about honor and respect. And there was a system in Japan, a vengeance system, where if you felt you were wrong, they would legally allow you to seek vengeance through a couple of steps. But they were like, these guys are not letting us do that for some reason. So 47, there was a lot of samurai, like 200 plus. And most of them just agreed with the new penalty. They said, we'll be ronin. We won't cause any more trouble. But 47 Ronin, 47 guys led by Oshi Kurosanuku. So the plotted revenge for over a year. The kid was angry. Okay, the kid was mad. And what he did was he pretended in his life, he pretended to be poor, dishonorable, a drunk. The kid's just pretending to just be a piece of shit. Cuz he doesn't want anyone looking into what he's actually plotting. So he just made believe that he was like any other samurai that was disgraced, just a scumbag, you know, in the bowels of Ito aka Tokyo. But then on December 14, 1702, they launched a surprise attack on Kira's mansion. And they killed him and of course, cut his head off.

[Pacman Jones]

Right.

[Chrissy Chaos]

They cut the kid's head right off, because that's what they have to do. And they brought it to the grave of Asano. And they said, look, we did this for you. They showed the brother the head. They said, we cut the kid's head off. And so you think, okay, what most people do is they say, you know, we revenged our leader, blah, blah, blah, we cut the kid's head off. Now we're. We're all good to go. But again, because Japan is all about honor, and samurais especially all about honor, what they do is they go to the High Council, basically the people that they, you know, went against, and they say, look, here's what we did. We fucking broke into the castle, we cut off Kira's head. We just cut his head off. And now we're going to show you that we did it. So what we're going to do for you is you don't even have to tell us. We're just all going to kill ourselves in front of you.

[Pacman Jones]

Yeah.

[Chrissy Chaos]

47 of them just right there in the steps of the thing, just take their sword and plunge them into their chest and they all kill themselves in front of the Japanese council. And it's just one of those things where, you know, most kids wouldn't do that, but the Japanese are committed. I mean, you. Because you could have a direct line from that to the kamikazes.

[Pacman Jones]

Yes, yes.

[Chrissy Chaos]

You really can do.

[Pacman Jones]

Actually, that's what it is. Yeah. I mean, it's just that. That's. In the culture of the Japanese that starts with the samurai, where the kids just had leaky roofs.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Right.

[Pacman Jones]

And they like to kill themselves.

[Chrissy Chaos]

They just did.

[Pacman Jones]

They just like to off themselves if they felt like they dishonored them.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Yeah. And I got to be honest with you, if Jazz doesn't allow me just rent and not buy, the kid might go full Japanese and take his shoes and socks off and do a little sepu.

[Pacman Jones]

Yeah.

[Chrissy Chaos]

At a family party. Yeah.

[Pacman Jones]

And the way they did it, too, was particularly grueling because they felt like the soul was in the middle of the body. So they would stab themselves in the middle of the body with their sword like this, so they would slowly bleed out. It'd be a very gruesome. And they did that. To show their honor and their dedication and their strength. And they also had a good friend nearby, guy, in case, like, so there was always another guy right there. So in case you. You got cold feet or you couldn't do it or you didn't, you know, do it right, then the guy would just lop off your head and he. It was a friendly thing to do. Yeah. And that's where the leaky roof comes.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Pacman Jones]

It's like I would, you know, that you're such a good friend.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Yeah.

[Pacman Jones]

So the head would roll off, and then the head would look at the friend and go, thank you.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Yeah.

[Pacman Jones]

Thank you for being such a good friend.

[Chrissy Chaos]

I really appreciate that. You're a nice daughter.

[Pacman Jones]

Yeah.

[Chrissy Chaos]

So, cuz. Okay, so the 47 ronin. I mean, it's wild. It's a while.

[Pacman Jones]

That is a wild.

[Chrissy Chaos]

It's a wild story how the guys just want to kill themselves and do this. But this is just. In Japan, what guys do. I mean, even still to this day, Japan, Japanese men specifically identify themselves so much with their careers that when. At the end of their career, when they retire, a lot of them just kill themselves. That's why when Logan Paul made that video in, like, these woods where guys just go to kill themselves, it's because this has been the culture from day one. They're like, look, they. They don't fear death like that. They don't think, like in with us with. With Catholic Christian kids, if we kill ourselves, we think we're going to purgatory. But not them.

[Pacman Jones]

No.

[Chrissy Chaos]

If they kill themselves, they think they're going to the bento box in the sky, baby.

[Pacman Jones]

They do. And they believe if they have an honorable death, then they'll. It'll be good. And if they have a dishonorable death or whatever, that their punishment will be. They'll be reborn as a samurai.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Yeah. It's just samurais are big now. Did you know, here's another fun fact that I want to give to you. Did you know that there was a.

[Pacman Jones]

Black samurai that wasn't Method Man? Yes, exactly.

[Chrissy Chaos]

That was in Ghostface Killer.

[Pacman Jones]

Right.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Did you know that there was a black samurai that didn't live in Staten Island? That's so the Park Hill Project.

[Pacman Jones]

That's wild. It's sort of like, you know, I think we've had a few Asians in the NBA, and so you would think that a couple blacks would become samurai. Yes, but it's not a lot, right?

[Chrissy Chaos]

Yeah. Because right now you could say, oh, there's a black samurai that plays for The Lakers.

[Pacman Jones]

Right.

[Chrissy Chaos]

And no, that's just a black Japanese kid.

[Pacman Jones]

Yeah.

[Chrissy Chaos]

That's on the team.

[Pacman Jones]

Yeah. What's his name?

[Chrissy Chaos]

Yeah, Yashimoto. So it's just what it is, cousin. It's not being racist. I just. Japanese names are hard, just like their names would be hard for us.

[Pacman Jones]

Yeah.

[Chrissy Chaos]

You think a Japanese guy could just say jeff easy. I don't think he can.

[Pacman Jones]

No. It's not easy for them to tell us apart.

[Chrissy Chaos]

So I want to tell you the story of a man that's been. Now, this guy's been debated in history. Some guys. Some people say he was a samurai. Some people say he was a retainer, which was like a guy that worked for the samurais, but wasn't, you know, at that level. His name was Yasuke. So Yasuke. So who this kid was was. First of all, he was a black African kid that came to Japan once again through a Portuguese guy. There was a talent. It was an Italian guy. His name was Alessandro Valignano, and he was a Jesuit missionary working for Portugal. Portugal loves slaves and black people more than any other country. You have to accept that. Again, I know the white people. I know that we're bad in history. I know we're bad, bad, bad. But we got to start talking about how Portugal is just was involved in the slave market in a big way.

[Pacman Jones]

Huge, Huge.

[Chrissy Chaos]

So Yasuke is this man. Now a lot of people are saying, you automatically think this black kid, he's with an Italian kid, He must be a slave. But he wasn't. He came over as just somebody who was working with this guy, Alessandro Valignano. So he comes in, and now he's a black kid coming to Japan. There's not many of them. So the village goes nuts. The village that they originally bring him to. I forgot what the village was that they broug to, but they. They bring him to this village. And I mean, people are like, pushing each other out of the way. They can't wait to see. It's probably like when Brittney Griner went into the Russian prison.

[Pacman Jones]

Right.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Nobody could believe what this thing was. Right, Right. They were like, holy shit. They never seen it.

[Pacman Jones]

Yeah.

[Chrissy Chaos]

They were just sitting there quiet, like they were getting like. Like Zelinsky getting yelled at by Trump.

[Pacman Jones]

Yeah.

[Chrissy Chaos]

They were just, oh, my God.

[Pacman Jones]

It's like when I went to Montenegro with my college friend, and they just. It was before, really, the Internet, and they just were pointing at him going, michael Jordan. They'd never seen a black guy. Yeah.

[Chrissy Chaos]

So this kid. So Yasuke comes In, it's about 1579. He comes in and he's just like unbelievable. And the head guy right now was this guy, Oda Nobunaga. He was like the top guy in Japan.

[Pacman Jones]

Now.

[Chrissy Chaos]

He was also known, they used to call him like the devil leader because the kid was bad news. He was a real piece of shit. He would boil people alive. He would behead monks, women, children. As a matter of fact, I'm going to get to the story of when Abunaga eventually causes a civil war. It's because one of the samurai who, you know, samurais, even though they're honor and they're only loyal to their leader, when he was basically Abu Naga was making this. These samurai behead women and children. They're like, yo, this guy. We're gonna rebel. So Yasuke and Abunaga strike up this wild friendship. Abunaga, who would you know is this top guy is obsessed with Yasuke. They're like this, this kid's the best. And so they say he was like an unbelievable fighter. In many of these Japanese civil wars, Yasuke was like front lines just absolutely crushing people. Because the kid was 6162 black. So you know, they're stronger. And he was just able to fucking wield a sword. People don't really know how he learned it. They think he must have been. He had to have been a warrior in whatever country he was from. There's not many records of him because you can't just learn. You can't just get to the level of samurai without being like elite, beyond elite.

[Pacman Jones]

Right now if you're a black guy and you're fighting samurai style back then you're probably going to want to talk 100 because you don't want the dick swinging because swords can get it.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Well, that's what I was gonna.

[Pacman Jones]

That was good for the Japanese because the swords, maybe the dicks are so small. So you know, like. Yeah, the way a bulldog's face is mashed in so it can fight, maybe the dick is small so the sword can't get it. So it evolved that.

[Chrissy Chaos]

That's very true. And you know what? And maybe that's why.

[Pacman Jones]

Very true.

[Chrissy Chaos]

And maybe that's why you saw you. Yasuke was so much better as a samurai could learn it so quick because the kid had three swords. He had his dinosaur, he had another sword that they always had and then he just had his dick. And he would just. I mean cuz if you got a big black like dick from Mozambique, you can easily hit a five, get them off their feet. Easy. Knock the window.

[Pacman Jones]

Right. Well, you can definitely. Yeah, it's definitely like a diversion. Like, where's the sword? Is it down there? Is it up there? He's looking at multiple swords.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Yeah.

[Pacman Jones]

It's like I'm seeing double.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Now, here's the thing with samurai, too. Now here's the thing. Here's why a lot of people debate. There's no way this kid could have been actual samurai. Because a lot of people said you had to be born into this culture, like a Hasidic Jew.

[Pacman Jones]

Right.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Even though they said Omari Stanimai is a Jew now, he's not Hasidic.

[Pacman Jones]

Right.

[Chrissy Chaos]

So you could be Japanese and be in the culture, but you can't actually be a samurai. So it's debatable. A lot of people say. They say that somebody wrote a book, a white guy wrote a book in, like, the 1800s and made this guy a samurai. When Japanese historians are saying this guy was not a samurai, we don't claim him as samurai. We believe he existed. But the kid wasn't a samurai. But he was. He served Nobunaga faithfully. He definitely fought in a lot of these battles. He was always there. And the reason why this is wild is because at the end of Nabu Naga, at the end of Nobunaga's life. Life, 1582, as I said, the kid Nabunaga caused a civil war because he was just a ruthless, like, devil king. Was like a piece of. He really was.

[Pacman Jones]

He was like Winston Churchill.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Yes, yes, exactly. Which you'll hear all about on Joe Rogan.

[Pacman Jones]

Yeah, you can hear that all about on Daryl Cooper's podcast.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Okay, he's here. Yes, Give him. Tell him two minutes. Two minutes. So. So Pac Man Jones is here. So we better go through this Black Samurai quick. So. So Nobunaga kills himself. He commits seppuku because he's being cornered. So rather than being killed by the enemy, he kills himself because, again, honorable, who cares? And then at the end, he gives instructions to Yasuke. This is a big honor. He gives instructions to Yasuke. He says, listen, I'm gonna kill myself. I'm gonna commit seppukuku. So I'm gonna commit sudoku.

[Pacman Jones]

Yeah.

[Chrissy Chaos]

So he says to Yasuke, when I'm dead, I want you to cut my head off and bring it to my side. My son, Cut my head off right now and bring it to my son. Which was the honorable thing to do because, like you said, these kids have leaky roofs.

[Pacman Jones]

I mean, it's just a hole in the roof.

[Chrissy Chaos]

It's a hole in the roof. So. So Yasuke chops his head off and he gives it to Obanaga's son, which is an honor.

[Pacman Jones]

Honorable thing, which was honor.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Give the kid his. Just give him my head. Like how my dad's gonna leave me a sweater. Yeah, it would be. Back then it's like, yeah, your head, dad.

[Pacman Jones]

That kid, he's as happy as a kid on Christmas who got a PlayStation.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Yeah, the kid just loved it with his pop's head. Head. So. But what happens then is Abunaga's enemies, of course, storm in, they don't care. And instead of killing Yasuke, which they would have as the other samurais, honorable, and make them commit seppuku, they just give Yasuke back to the Jesuits, back to the Portuguese, and let him leave. So that's why a lot of scholars, Japanese people are saying there's no way he was a samurai because a. He would have gotten the title of ronin because he's a masterless samurai. So he didn't get that. And it's. And he was so valueless to the Japanese at that time that they just gave him back to the Portuguese. So that's why people don't. Don't debate it. But it is one month after Black History Month, and I want to say that I do think Yatsuke was a samurai.

[Pacman Jones]

Yes.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Even though technically he wasn't.

[Pacman Jones]

Yeah. Wu Tang Clang ain't nothing to fuck with.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Fuck. Wait, so speaking of blacks with leaky rouge, we're going to bring in Pac Man Jones. Yeah, baby. Gorgeous. Can I tell you something?

[Pacman Jones]

Yeah.

[Chrissy Chaos]

I want to talk to you about a beautiful, high functioning party animal all. Okay.

[Pacman Jones]

Talk to me about the party, Adam.

[Chrissy Chaos]

I want to talk to you about that. The Two Bears 5K in Tampa, Florida is on May 4, and it's sponsored by the first beverage built to outpace the party, and that is the Light Strike Hard Refresher, which is an excellent source of 5% alcohol.

[Pacman Jones]

Yeah. It's also the sponsor of the Two Bears 5K in Tampa, Florida on May 4th, the first beverage built to outpace the party. It's like. Like you said, it's an excellent source.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Yeah.

[Pacman Jones]

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[Chrissy Chaos]

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[Pacman Jones]

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[Chrissy Chaos]

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[Pacman Jones]

Yeah.

[Chrissy Chaos]

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[Pacman Jones]

Bluechew is great. It is amazing because it gets you bricked up. Yeah, you get to chew them.

[Chrissy Chaos]

And you know what I love about them guys? These blue chew tablets, the chewable, they're made right here in the usa. So it's like you got a freedom like that.

[Pacman Jones]

That's exactly what makes them good.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Because my. My boners are red, white and blue chew.

[Pacman Jones]

That they're red, white and blue chew, which would be a great tagline for this.

[Chrissy Chaos]

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[Pacman Jones]

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[Chrissy Chaos]

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[Giannis Pappas]

Hey, that was a great plunge line right there.

[Chrissy Chaos]

That's it. Well, now, because we wanted to know, because black guys typically like to have a family member be their manager or agent when they're professional athletes. So what is that about?

[Giannis Pappas]

No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. You have people that is qualified for the job over here where we at. I pay my family members to stay away.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Nice.

[Pacman Jones]

Are you dipping right now?

[Giannis Pappas]

Yeah.

[Pacman Jones]

I like that. I like that in there, too. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Giannis Pappas]

I'm trying to get off this, but I've been dipping so long.

[Pacman Jones]

Yeah.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Nice.

[Giannis Pappas]

Because I started dipping because I couldn't stay up in the meetings and they was finding me.

[Pacman Jones]

Yeah.

[Giannis Pappas]

Like $10,000 sleep. My coach was like, bro, you gotta put the dip in his mic.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Can you lower it?

[Giannis Pappas]

He's like, bro, you gotta put a dip in. So I was.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Oh, yeah, yeah.

[Giannis Pappas]

Kept me up. Did you find.

[Pacman Jones]

Did you dip while you were playing football? Yeah, yeah.

[Giannis Pappas]

You have to play games with, like, pouches in.

[Pacman Jones]

You did, right?

[Chrissy Chaos]

You know why I think you are a great, great because obviously, amazing skill level, but you just, like, you. You. You were just, like, going with the flow. Like, you were just like, you'll dip. You'll play with your chains. Like, it. Do you like. I know, like, sometimes when I would watch, I'd be like, I wonder if he gets worried if, like, someone's going to tug on it or whatever. And you're like, dude, I just go.

[Giannis Pappas]

Nah, bro, I live my life without a seat belt. You know what I mean?

[Chrissy Chaos]

I respect that.

[Giannis Pappas]

By on fair catch the ball.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Yeah, that's it.

[Pacman Jones]

Yeah.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Now. Yeah, I like that. I like to live life in the fast lane. That's pretty good.

[Pacman Jones]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, you do. You. You kind of do things your own way, and you've always done things your own way. And so what do you think about the NFL? Is it too strict when it comes to players and, you know, smoking weed and what they do off? I mean, it's just like, if you perform well, you perform well. Right? Babe Ruth used to play drunk. Mickey.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Oh, my God.

[Pacman Jones]

Drunk.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Yeah.

[Giannis Pappas]

Yeah.

[Pacman Jones]

I think it should be all drugs allowed.

[Giannis Pappas]

I don't know about all drugs.

[Pacman Jones]

Why not? Wouldn't that be great to play on crystal meth?

[Chrissy Chaos]

The Nazis did it.

[Pacman Jones]

Yeah.

[Giannis Pappas]

Oh, no. Aaron Rodgers played on ayahuasca.

[Pacman Jones]

Taking ayahuasca.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Yeah.

[Pacman Jones]

I mean, what does it matter? I think we even said, like, baseball would be Good. If there was a guy on the sidelines with a gun and he was just randomly firing out on the field, seriously, that would make a little more movement happen.

[Chrissy Chaos]

We're also foreign. All steroid league. Yeah. Why the fuck not let. Hey, Pac Man. Listen, America, we're about entertainment here.

[Giannis Pappas]

Yeah.

[Chrissy Chaos]

So why not just get everybody on the juice and see what happens?

[Giannis Pappas]

I don't know about that, but I like to be entertained too though, right?

[Chrissy Chaos]

At least baseball get them all on the juice.

[Giannis Pappas]

Yeah, baseball should definitely be on the juice.

[Chrissy Chaos]

And then give one player an inning in aluminum bat and have the pitcher put on a football helmet just in case you don't want the guy to get killed and let somebody hit an 800 foot home run and, you know, and fans can pay extra money to sit in a seat where they could possibly catch a ball that's 800 foot feet.

[Pacman Jones]

Yeah, I think so.

[Chrissy Chaos]

I think so.

[Pacman Jones]

And how come there's not more sumo wrestlers on the offensive line?

[Giannis Pappas]

It's a lot of my day. Just. They don't claim to be sumo wrestlers.

[Pacman Jones]

That's true.

[Chrissy Chaos]

But they were fat Japanese guys. Yeah, yeah. Now, Pac man, how. How long are you in New York for?

[Giannis Pappas]

I'm here till tomorrow. I've been here like two days.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Yeah, yeah.

[Giannis Pappas]

It's packed around here to take an hour to get from here to 5th.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Ave. Because you're from what, West Virginia?

[Giannis Pappas]

Cincinnati, Cincinnati. I'm from Atlanta.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Sorry, sorry.

[Giannis Pappas]

Atlanta. Live in Cincinnati and Atlanta.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Yeah.

[Giannis Pappas]

Went to West Virginia though.

[Chrissy Chaos]

You went to West Virginia? Yeah. Because I feel like a lot of times people come to New York and it's too much for them, but I feel like not you, you're. You would fit in in our city.

[Giannis Pappas]

I, I could fit in anywhere, you know, I mean, I'm a. I'm very adaptable. Is if. If that's the word.

[Pacman Jones]

That is.

[Chrissy Chaos]

That is the word. 100.

[Giannis Pappas]

What's the word? Maneuvers. So like I'm, I'm. I can go anywhere and hold a conversation or live or whatever I need to do because I've been around a lot of different genres, I should say.

[Pacman Jones]

Yeah, you've done a lot. Right? So for, you know, he was a wrestler for a while.

[Chrissy Chaos]

100. Of course, 2,000. The kid.

[Pacman Jones]

Yeah, yeah. What was that? TNA.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Yeah, it was like 2007, 2008. Right. I remember. I was, I was. Yeah, I was in college. I remember Pac man as a wrestler.

[Pacman Jones]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. You've done it all. Are you still doing music?

[Giannis Pappas]

I'm doing music. I actually, look, let me. I'M gonna give y'all a sneak peek.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Hell, yeah, dude.

[Pacman Jones]

Hear it.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Let's do it.

[Giannis Pappas]

I really don't do this all the time.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Well, we feel honored song right here.

[Giannis Pappas]

It's a little different because everybody so used to me just rapping. I got this song. Well, I'm rapping, but it's like a country music song.

[Pacman Jones]

Oh, yeah.

[Giannis Pappas]

And I got. I got Jimmy Allen on here.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Hell, yeah, dude.

[Pacman Jones]

Yeah. Hell, yeah.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Oh, that's you.

[Giannis Pappas]

This is Jimmy right here. Don't leave me, baby like that.

[Pacman Jones]

I think this will get everyone jumping tailgate. Yeah.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Oh, yeah.

[Pacman Jones]

That's country. Yeah, but also mix. That's. This is gonna bump in the South.

[Giannis Pappas]

Oh, this is gonna be good.

[Pacman Jones]

Yeah, it's gonna bump in the South.

[Giannis Pappas]

It's gonna be good.

[Pacman Jones]

Yeah.

[Giannis Pappas]

I see this song. Like, really?

[Pacman Jones]

I think white boys are gonna like that song, too.

[Giannis Pappas]

Pull up at the tailgate.

[Pacman Jones]

Hel.

[Giannis Pappas]

They asked me where to pay for the problem.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Yeah, we like it, dude.

[Giannis Pappas]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. You just something different, though. You know what I mean?

[Chrissy Chaos]

Yeah.

[Giannis Pappas]

I mean, and then I got. I got hood records, too, but, like. Yeah, I like to mix stuff up.

[Pacman Jones]

Yeah.

[Chrissy Chaos]

So when did you want to be when you were a little kid? Was it a musician or a football player?

[Giannis Pappas]

I wrote a poem like, seven, eight years old, like, jones, my name. Basketball, my game. Basketball, football, my game. One day I'm gonna make it to the hall of fame. I've never thought about doing anything else but being a pro athlete. Yeah, I indulged in the music just because of my environment and having a studio. Me and my group, we bought Dallas Austin Studio. That was in Atlanta. So, like, Young Thug 21, Savage, Metro, boom. And all them came through the studio that we was. That we owned at the time.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Do you ever playing in the NFL? Cause it's like such a dream, right? But were there ever days where it just felt like a day job to you where you're like, I don't want to fucking play the jazz?

[Giannis Pappas]

No, you always.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Every day, you're like, this is amazing. I can't believe I get to do this. Yeah, that's awesome.

[Giannis Pappas]

Especially when you get the game taken away from you. Like, from me being suspended with the commissioner, me breaking my neck, being paralyzed twice. Hadn't sit out a year and get all my shit back. So you respect the game a lot more once you go through, I guess, different things, I guess. And then you realize that the game is a privilege. Like, this shit is not forever, and you got to enjoy it while it's there.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Can you imagine breaking your neck twice? Dude, he broke his neck twice.

[Pacman Jones]

I know. I couldn't imagine playing that sport in winter. Oh, in the winter, like, what is it?

[Giannis Pappas]

Shitty Pittsburgh, December, when it's 10 below with the wind chill, it legit hurts.

[Pacman Jones]

I mean, it's like a car accident when you get hit. Right.

[Chrissy Chaos]

But I feel like these.

[Giannis Pappas]

It does hurt. But we don't know nothing else, though.

[Pacman Jones]

Yeah. Mentally, you guys are like the samurai of athletes.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Yes. You really are the elite class.

[Pacman Jones]

Elite class. I mean, it is no tougher sport. I think football players are the toughest.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Football and hockey.

[Giannis Pappas]

All right. Hockey guys are really tough.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Yeah, right.

[Giannis Pappas]

Hey, don't forget the lacrosse guys, too, though.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Oh, yes.

[Giannis Pappas]

Lacrosse is a. Yeah, that shit is real. They're really diving on lacrosse. Yeah, that shit is real.

[Pacman Jones]

How do you feel about the new football rules now, where you protect the quarterback? Everything?

[Giannis Pappas]

It's always been like that, really. It's just now that they put more emphasis on it.

[Pacman Jones]

Right.

[Giannis Pappas]

Can't hit them low, can't. Can't hit them high. You barely hit them right now.

[Pacman Jones]

Yeah, you can't. They just. Everyone else can get hit but the quarterback.

[Giannis Pappas]

Yeah.

[Pacman Jones]

And it's like, why the mv. The MVP always goes to the quarterback.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Right.

[Pacman Jones]

You're the quarterback. It's like they should have. They kind of do have. Where they have player of the year or something. So it's like. I don't just say quarterback award.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Right. Let the quarterback have their own award.

[Pacman Jones]

Have their own award because it's mvp.

[Giannis Pappas]

This year, to me was Saquon.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Saquon, yeah. Of course.

[Giannis Pappas]

He should have definitely won.

[Pacman Jones]

Yeah.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Yeah. We were. We're big New York Giants fans, so that was tough. No, but I voted for. But I was rooting for Saquon. I. I say it wasn't Saquon's problem. No fault that he, like, he didn't want to leave the Giants. I love Giants. Let him go.

[Pacman Jones]

It was just tough to watch as a Giant fan.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Yes.

[Pacman Jones]

Like, damn, the Giant organization sucks. I mean, look what they did.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Yeah.

[Pacman Jones]

And I mean, Daniel Jones. What was that all about? Daniel Jones, Never the guy. No, he was just never the guy.

[Giannis Pappas]

They paid him again.

[Pacman Jones]

They paid him. Wow.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Yes.

[Giannis Pappas]

$100 million.

[Pacman Jones]

$100 million.

[Chrissy Chaos]

I mean. Yeah. Yeah.

[Pacman Jones]

Do you still have all your football money?

[Giannis Pappas]

Hell, no. No, no, no, no. Don't have all of it. I wish I did.

[Pacman Jones]

Yeah, you just had fun.

[Chrissy Chaos]

What you spend it on?

[Giannis Pappas]

Yeah, I didn't spend all of it.

[Pacman Jones]

Yeah.

[Giannis Pappas]

I spend a good opinion of it. But, like, I'M in a great place as far as financially, mentally good. I got some good people that's around me in my circle. Jerry Jones is one of them. But like, I ain't do too bad.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Yeah, yeah.

[Giannis Pappas]

Everything I got is paid for.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Yeah, good. No, no major debt. All right, good.

[Pacman Jones]

And you know what? He's adopted his friend's kids. I mean, that's. You're a great dude.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Oh, yes. Amazing too. Yeah.

[Pacman Jones]

Yeah.

[Chrissy Chaos]

The right thing to do that a lot of guys just wouldn't do.

[Giannis Pappas]

So it's almost like, you know, when I did that, it wasn't like I was adopting them. I was just trying to get them to skip the line pass. Like, I did adopt them. Of course, I spent. Spent a lot of money with them coming stand with me for three and a half years. But when I was thinking of. I'm like, how do we get these kids notoriety? Like, because nobody was talking about them. They was decent athletes, I would say.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Right.

[Pacman Jones]

Is one of them going to Ohio State or something or.

[Giannis Pappas]

He's committed to Ohio State.

[Pacman Jones]

He's committed to Ohio State.

[Chrissy Chaos]

We don't know where he's going to go.

[Giannis Pappas]

I don't know.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Yeah, can hear that on the Pac Man Jones shows on BET online.

[Pacman Jones]

Yeah.

[Chrissy Chaos]

What is it? Yeah, BET online.

[Giannis Pappas]

BET online.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Hell yeah, dude.

[Giannis Pappas]

Pac Man Jones show politely wrong.

[Pacman Jones]

Yeah. What do you think about ye right now? Are you. Are you. What do you think. What do you think's going on with ye?

[Chrissy Chaos]

Who? Kanye. Mentally ill.

[Giannis Pappas]

Right.

[Chrissy Chaos]

What it is?

[Giannis Pappas]

No, it's a certain shit that I don't. I don't stand on and like, I got a lot of Jew friends, like, always call myself a black Jew.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Right.

[Giannis Pappas]

Certain things like.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Right.

[Giannis Pappas]

I only. I only speak on certain. Like, it ain't no space for me to speak on.

[Chrissy Chaos]

I got.

[Pacman Jones]

Yeah, yeah, I get you.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Yeah, I like that. I like that. I love his music, though. His music is good.

[Pacman Jones]

Tough. Yeah, I do like his music.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Yeah. Black Jew Friends is a funny.

[Pacman Jones]

Yeah. I can't wait for a new single, which is probably going to be called like, how you know.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Yeah, Something crazy.

[Pacman Jones]

Okay. Yeah.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Hitler. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, dude, what about. What about. Do you. Do you see any hope for. I mean, New York football, like the Jets. I mean, we may. Like the Giants. I'm okay.

[Giannis Pappas]

Believable receiver right now.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Right. We just need a qb.

[Pacman Jones]

He's great. He had a bad concussion, though. Remember that one concussion he got for a couple.

[Giannis Pappas]

Tell me, what team is good without a good quarterback?

[Chrissy Chaos]

Nobody.

[Pacman Jones]

Zero.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Zero.

[Pacman Jones]

It's really a quarterback.

[Giannis Pappas]

There's some teams that's good with a good quarterback without no help but like it's hard it be good without a good quarterback.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Yeah, right.

[Pacman Jones]

Yeah.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Yeah. I mean they got the, the quarterback I guess in is there. I don't think there's anybody who's more important to.

[Giannis Pappas]

Are the Giants driving the quarterback this year?

[Chrissy Chaos]

I hope so. I mean I, they, I, I want.

[Giannis Pappas]

Y'All never drafted a black quarterback ever in here.

[Chrissy Chaos]

We got. I want them to take Cam Ward from the Hurricanes.

[Giannis Pappas]

Hurry up. Y'all gotta get up there, don't you.

[Chrissy Chaos]

I know. Yeah. Because he's. Their Giants are three right now. But there she's going to go one or two. And they will. Well, maybe they'll take Sanders son. Possibly. Right?

[Pacman Jones]

Yeah.

[Chrissy Chaos]

I mean they could.

[Pacman Jones]

Hopefully that's what they need to do. The Giants organization, they've been. We've been bad for a long time.

[Chrissy Chaos]

For a very long time.

[Pacman Jones]

Very brutal for a long.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Here's the thing you could say like people would make fun of Eli Manning and say like he's cross eyed and like look at him. That guy won fucking two Super Bowls and every time he got hit he got right up.

[Pacman Jones]

Yeah.

[Chrissy Chaos]

So Eli Manning, I personally think he's hall of Famer.

[Giannis Pappas]

His brain is so big when it comes to football.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Yes.

[Giannis Pappas]

Being in that family, like I'll take Eli Manning with no arm just for him to get us in and out of plays seriously, you know what I mean? Like I don't think they get enough praises like they should. Like the Manning family is unbelievable. Like, especially when it comes to like X's and O's and football and when.

[Chrissy Chaos]

They talk, when they start. I've watched the Manning brothers telecast and stuff. When they do their show, when they talk plays, it's actually like speaking a different language. I don't know. I love sports. I have no idea what they're even talking about because it's just like they say it so quick.

[Pacman Jones]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Chrissy Chaos]

It's wild.

[Pacman Jones]

Is there a more underappreciated position though than the cornerback?

[Chrissy Chaos]

I mean Pac Man, I'm saying the.

[Giannis Pappas]

Cornerback is the hardest job.

[Pacman Jones]

It's the hardest job besides the quarterback.

[Giannis Pappas]

Yeah, I, I do think quarterback is the hardest job.

[Pacman Jones]

Yeah.

[Giannis Pappas]

Just because you making all the blitzes, you calling, you checking the and all that. Me going guarding this on the island by myself, it's really hard. But, but I think the quarterback position is a little bit more in depth of IQ and different things when it come to football.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Who's the best quarterback you ever played.

[Giannis Pappas]

With do you think that I play with.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Do we have a spit count, by the way? I am counting nine spits. Let's get a spit counter up.

[Giannis Pappas]

You said that I play with that you played with? Yes, the best one. Steve McNair.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Wow. Yeah. Rest of rip, man. Steve McNair was the best.

[Giannis Pappas]

The rest of them was interesting.

[Chrissy Chaos]

He. He. Did you play with him on the tight? Yeah. Is that when you guys went far? Did you go to Super Bowl?

[Giannis Pappas]

No, we didn't.

[Chrissy Chaos]

But you went deep in the playoffs that year, right?

[Giannis Pappas]

We had a good year, but yeah.

[Pacman Jones]

He got an MVP, right? Steve McNair?

[Chrissy Chaos]

Yeah, I think so.

[Giannis Pappas]

Yeah. And he got a offensive MVP too.

[Pacman Jones]

Yeah. Yeah, he was great.

[Chrissy Chaos]

He was.

[Pacman Jones]

And what he. It was the girl he was dating.

[Chrissy Chaos]

The girl was dating. Believe. Yeah. You think it was something else? You think it was something more like a conspiracy?

[Giannis Pappas]

I was with Steve the week before he passed away and the girl was with him also. Actually we were doing Joes vs Pros in LA. And me personally, I just don't believe that she would do it. Why would you kill somebody that's taking care of you?

[Chrissy Chaos]

Yeah, it doesn't make sense.

[Giannis Pappas]

There's some foul play in there.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Her name was Sahel Kazemi. She then killed herself.

[Giannis Pappas]

That's what they say.

[Chrissy Chaos]

That's what they say, the murder. Suicide. So what do you think? If you had to speculate, what do you think possibly happened?

[Giannis Pappas]

I don't think she killed herself. I don't think she killed him either.

[Chrissy Chaos]

You think somebody came in and killed the both of them? It's the only thing that's possible, right?

[Pacman Jones]

Who do you think, what do you think it could have been? Was he in any trouble or anything? No, no.

[Giannis Pappas]

I think this was all like inner circle.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Inner circle shit.

[Pacman Jones]

Damn.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Yeah, that's interesting.

[Pacman Jones]

Her name was Sahil Kazemi.

[Chrissy Chaos]

So it was Middle Eastern? I guess so.

[Pacman Jones]

They were saying it was his ex boyfriend. Her ex boyfriend.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Oh, her ex boyfriend killed the both of them?

[Pacman Jones]

That's what it says here, yeah.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Oh, interesting. That's very interesting.

[Pacman Jones]

Very sad.

[Chrissy Chaos]

That sucks.

[Giannis Pappas]

I don't think that's what happened either.

[Pacman Jones]

No?

[Chrissy Chaos]

No. So you just. You have no idea what happened, but you just don't.

[Giannis Pappas]

Well, I got an idea what happened. If. If, if. Only thing I'm saying if. Let's just say Steve best friend. Get this there and call someone before he called the police. That seemed kind of skeptical to me.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Yeah, I don't love that. I don't love that. I don't love you. Yeah, you gotta Call the cops right away. Man, that does suck. And see, because they don't talk about that really in that. In that documentary. They just say it's all. There's a lot of things throughout history. It's not what it seems. Right? I mean, we talk about it all the time on this podcast. These conspiracies. You're like, the government can make anything look like anything they want anytime. Yeah, yeah, it's wild.

[Pacman Jones]

Dude, do you know anything about samurais?

[Giannis Pappas]

No. There's only one black one that's.

[Chrissy Chaos]

You know about him?

[Pacman Jones]

Just talked about him.

[Chrissy Chaos]

What do you know about the black samurai doing?

[Giannis Pappas]

Yeah, what you mean what I know?

[Chrissy Chaos]

Well, like what I'm saying, like, what do you like? What do you know anything about him?

[Giannis Pappas]

I did a little research.

[Chrissy Chaos]

What do you like? What'd you like about him in your research?

[Giannis Pappas]

He was on the black guy. Everybody else was Japanese.

[Chrissy Chaos]

We were saying. We were saying this is the only black samurai besides the Wu Tang Clan. Just him.

[Pacman Jones]

His name was Yusuke Yasuke.

[Chrissy Chaos]

And he was a very Yasuke dude. And they said he was 6:2, which at that time was, you know, the. The tallest person they've ever seen in Japan. Because 6:2 today, that's like being 6:9 or something like that. You know, people got bigger. But the dude, Yasuke. See, some people say we were talking about this earlier. Some people say he wasn't a samurai, but they're fucking haters. I want to say he was a samurai. Japanese historians are not claiming him. See, that's the thing we talk about, dude, in the media. It's always white people are the most racist. And I'm saying we've had our moments. But Asian people are pretty fucking racist. They hate each other, number one. And then they really don't like anybody who's not Asian. They are. They will not claim Yatsuke. I will claim him as a white guy, but the Japanese won't.

[Pacman Jones]

Yeah, people just. People are horrible. No matter what. No matter where you go, that's what. Everywhere you go, people are just horrible.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Even we were talking about this before. Even the Portuguese. How come people don't talk more? Why is it always white people wear the biggest pieces of shit?

[Pacman Jones]

Because Portuguese are white.

[Chrissy Chaos]

But the Portuguese, they are. But they're not really white. Like why, you know, hold on.

[Giannis Pappas]

What do you mean they're not really white?

[Chrissy Chaos]

Because while they're fucking speak Spanish or Portuguese.

[Pacman Jones]

They speak Portuguese.

[Giannis Pappas]

Yeah, that's.

[Chrissy Chaos]

But it's not.

[Pacman Jones]

But Spanish are white too.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Yeah, but they're not. I feel like me As a white. I'm white. Even you. He's Greek, right? Like, I'm look like the whitest guy in here and I get all the hate when meanwhile, I'd be the least racist and my family has nothing to do with fucking anything.

[Giannis Pappas]

Well, I don't know. Greeks might be the least racist.

[Pacman Jones]

Oh, that's not true.

[Chrissy Chaos]

No.

[Pacman Jones]

Greeks are not very racist. Everybody, though.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Yeah.

[Pacman Jones]

Yeah. And everybody who aren't Greek.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Yes.

[Pacman Jones]

Not me.

[Giannis Pappas]

You sure?

[Pacman Jones]

Yeah, I'm positive.

[Giannis Pappas]

I got a lot of good friends. That's pretty good to me then.

[Pacman Jones]

That's good. Yeah.

[Giannis Pappas]

I got a lot of white friends. That's good. Pretty good.

[Pacman Jones]

Yeah.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Exactly.

[Pacman Jones]

So who do you think the most evil people are? Group?

[Giannis Pappas]

Blacks.

[Pacman Jones]

Blacks.

[Chrissy Chaos]

See, we agree. No, no. Black. Yeah.

[Pacman Jones]

Do you think just all people are bad? It depends on the person.

[Chrissy Chaos]

It depends.

[Giannis Pappas]

Ye don't matter what color it is, you know?

[Chrissy Chaos]

Yeah, bro. That's what I'm telling.

[Giannis Pappas]

That person is a bad person.

[Pacman Jones]

So what? What is up with human nature? What's going on? Why are we. Why can't we just chill? We have it so good. We got iPhones, we got food. How come we can't just get along and just exchange cultures and just be happy?

[Giannis Pappas]

I don't know. You tell me.

[Pacman Jones]

It's a. It's a tough thing to figure out.

[Chrissy Chaos]

I think we're getting closer to it. I think. I think we're getting closer to it in history.

[Pacman Jones]

I don't know what it is.

[Chrissy Chaos]

I think. I think. I think we're getting closer to this. Kind of like, we're all kind of in this shit together. Not. Not in our lifetime time, but we're closer today than we were 300 years ago.

[Giannis Pappas]

I agree with that.

[Pacman Jones]

You know, I think we need, like, alien, like another, like AI, bro. AI.

[Chrissy Chaos]

That's what we got to fight against.

[Pacman Jones]

Or maybe AI will be so smart that it'll tell us, like, what are you guys doing?

[Chrissy Chaos]

No, what? I think the only way, personally, that I think is two things need to happen. We. We as a human race, because we're so divided right now, need to come together and fight something else. So it's either aliens or AI. So if we come together, because then we'll.

[Giannis Pappas]

You better not with AI, because AI is undefeated right now.

[Chrissy Chaos]

They. Right now. Yeah, yeah, yeah. They are undefeated. We think, like, we think. We think there's people right now who are so advanced at their AI, like LeBron James. We've said this on the show before, that there's no way LeBron is human being. He has to be AI. Made by the Chinese, because he does love them.

[Giannis Pappas]

I might agree with that. Because to do what he's doing at 40 years old for 22 years.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Crazy. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, dude, I'm out for two weeks after a colonoscopy, and this.

[Giannis Pappas]

Two weeks, like, three weeks.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Yeah. I mean, yeah, he's. I don't do. I wonder if he. Now, here's a question. If LeBron was in the NFL, which many people said he could have made it, and we all here agree, do you think he'd still be playing in the NFL? You can't play that long like that.

[Giannis Pappas]

Yeah, he ain't. He won a quarterback. Only quarterbacks can play that long.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Only quarterbacks. Right, right.

[Pacman Jones]

So how good friends are you with Goodell now?

[Giannis Pappas]

I love Goodell.

[Pacman Jones]

Yeah, that's good.

[Giannis Pappas]

I have no problem with Goodell.

[Pacman Jones]

Yeah.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Yeah.

[Giannis Pappas]

I mean, like, he suspended me, but, like, it helped me in the long run.

[Pacman Jones]

That's good. Yeah.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Well, that's the thing is, like, you know, one thing I think about, like, the media and just, like, people's brains in general is like, somebody who's never met a Roger Goodell, who's never met, you know, any of these people, they just hate them for no reason. It's like, you've never even met the man. Like, even Trump, it's like you don't know anything about him. You know what the media feeds you? You know, little clips of a human being.

[Giannis Pappas]

That's crazy. I was just telling somebody this today. Like, how. How you watch the news like, I'm a Big Dave guy. I watch ABC a lot. And you can tell, like, how the conversations are controlled to make people flip to one side.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Sure.

[Giannis Pappas]

Instead of telling the whole story.

[Pacman Jones]

Right.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Sure.

[Giannis Pappas]

Like, for instance, Biden. I ain't saying this no type of way. He said he wasn't gonna pardon his son. Goddamn it. What'd he do?

[Pacman Jones]

Pardoned his son.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Pardon his son.

[Giannis Pappas]

Like, all this shit is like.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Yeah.

[Giannis Pappas]

So tick for tack. Yeah. I want to say.

[Pacman Jones]

Yeah.

[Giannis Pappas]

And it ain't no difference. I mean, it's just a slight difference as far as which one you like. You know what I mean? If you got some money, you gonna like the other side. If you ain't got no money, of course you're gonna like that side.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Right?

[Pacman Jones]

If you got money, you're Republican. If you don't, I always say, everyone's a Democrat till they get rich.

[Chrissy Chaos]

What?

[Pacman Jones]

And then.

[Chrissy Chaos]

But see, that's. That's what I think personally. Like, if we were just, like, if Things were instead of like, like one race versus that race, one political party versus that political party. If it was just like, hey, rich people help poor people a little bit more, and that's how you broke down problems. I don't think anybody would really mind. It's when you. It's when you say, oh, so and so doesn't have advantages because they're black or white or whatever. Now it's like, now stop with the skin color and make it about the money.

[Giannis Pappas]

Right.

[Chrissy Chaos]

You know, it's always about the money. That's always about that.

[Pacman Jones]

The money isn't. Is that what you found? It's always about the.

[Giannis Pappas]

Always about the paper.

[Pacman Jones]

Yeah, that's.

[Chrissy Chaos]

That's it.

[Pacman Jones]

Yeah.

[Chrissy Chaos]

That's what we say.

[Pacman Jones]

I got a question for you that I've always wondered. Right. Football's a sport where your team is just. There's so many dudes on the team. There's so many guys. Have you ever.

[Giannis Pappas]

There's only 56 on the NFL roster.

[Pacman Jones]

Yeah, it's a lot. Compared a lot of sports. That's a lot of dudes.

[Giannis Pappas]

I mean, yeah, college, you got about 120.

[Pacman Jones]

Yeah.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Really?

[Giannis Pappas]

Yeah.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Yeah. That's why if you can't make a college football team, you're just not that good.

[Pacman Jones]

Could you remember, is there a point where you're just like, you on the team? Like, you don't even know. Can you remember the names of your teammates?

[Giannis Pappas]

You're like, oh, dude, I do.

[Chrissy Chaos]

What's the longest you went into a season, though, where you were like, I actually don't know that guy's name.

[Pacman Jones]

Yeah. Like you knew everyone's name on special teams.

[Giannis Pappas]

Hell yeah. They had to block for me.

[Pacman Jones]

That's a good point. Oh, yeah.

[Giannis Pappas]

Out. If I'm getting hit like preseason, you. You don't really get to know everybody, cuz be in and out of there.

[Pacman Jones]

Yeah.

[Giannis Pappas]

But like, as far as defensive wise, you know everybody, right?

[Chrissy Chaos]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Pacman Jones]

I. I think about field goal kickers. They're converted soccer players. Would football be better without these little white boys who kick?

[Giannis Pappas]

I mean, I'm all for special teams.

[Pacman Jones]

No. But here's the thing. I hate when a game comes down to, like, just a field goal. Yeah. And they miss. Did you have like, did they get beat up behind. Did you like. Did you at least give him a wedgie and hang them on a hook? Oh, look at. I mean, what. I mean, the guy just lost the game for you.

[Chrissy Chaos]

No, because it's part of the game. I think it's. I think it's I think it's a part.

[Pacman Jones]

It's crazy. These guys, blood, sweat and tears, they're out there fighting and then this guy who's been sitting on the sideline but.

[Chrissy Chaos]

It'S part of the game.

[Pacman Jones]

He's a converted side.

[Chrissy Chaos]

He's gotta stay. But these guys gotta stay loose. That's why I think Justin Tucker there should be no problems because the kid got a few happy endings. Hey, who gives a. The kid's got to stay loose.

[Giannis Pappas]

Don't say that now because we ain't say that. When we was talking about the other guy that had desean Watson that like had happy in this I love. I was saying y'all are giving him a pass though.

[Chrissy Chaos]

No, I wasn't.

[Giannis Pappas]

I. I was all about Deshaun Tucker a pass.

[Chrissy Chaos]

No. And I think I would gave Daeshun a pass too. I think you get a little happy endings. What? How is it a marriage and crap and craft likes. And craft like happy endings too. Who doesn't?

[Giannis Pappas]

That's what they said.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Who doesn't? Dude, I mean honestly, what other way can you get through this life without a little Asian hands on your.

[Giannis Pappas]

It's a different text, bro. Again.

[Chrissy Chaos]

I mean the kid. Do you think he's going to get thrown out of the NFL now for this?

[Giannis Pappas]

Tucker?

[Chrissy Chaos]

Yeah.

[Pacman Jones]

What did he do? He just got a hand job.

[Chrissy Chaos]

That's what they say. But I don't. I don't. I actually don't know the facts. I really don't. So I. I shouldn't.

[Pacman Jones]

You know, I just don't think. I think it's part of the massage, right?

[Giannis Pappas]

It's not.

[Pacman Jones]

It's not.

[Chrissy Chaos]

No. Well you then you haven't been to West Garden here in New York City?

[Giannis Pappas]

I did go to a Asian spar here though. It's pretty nice.

[Chrissy Chaos]

It's pretty nice.

[Pacman Jones]

Yeah.

[Chrissy Chaos]

That's what it is.

[Pacman Jones]

Yeah.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Yeah.

[Pacman Jones]

They take care of you Bamboo.

[Chrissy Chaos]

What's they say? What did Justin Tyler Tucker's why I mean this guy is kind of now.

[Giannis Pappas]

Yes.

[Pacman Jones]

It's horrible. He didn't do anything wrong.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Well, no, I think he did though. I think he did. No. Well, I don't know what it is. Let's. Before we start being assholes, let's see. Justin Tucker described the alley. Justin Tucker said the allegations.

[Giannis Pappas]

Now Justin Sugar continued to maintain his innocence as the spotlight remains on his allegations. Sexual misconduct up.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Yes.

[Pacman Jones]

So what does that mean?

[Chrissy Chaos]

Yeah, I mean, I mean the problem.

[Pacman Jones]

Is this guy, that kid Hardy just on the Cowboys. Didn't he beat his wife to like.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Yeah, but he got thrown out of the NFL for that.

[Pacman Jones]

Did he? Of course. I remember. He got. He was playing after that.

[Chrissy Chaos]

You can't do that. So. Tucker was accused of sexual misconduct by 16 female massage therapists.

[Giannis Pappas]

Bro, you just made me miss my whole drink. Literally, I missed my whole mouth.

[Chrissy Chaos]

From eight different spas and wellness centers in Baltimore. That's a lot. I gotta be honest with you.

[Pacman Jones]

Do you believe this, though?

[Chrissy Chaos]

Yeah, but one or two is something, but 16, I mean, the kids got it.

[Giannis Pappas]

You don't believe it?

[Pacman Jones]

No.

[Chrissy Chaos]

The kids got an issue.

[Pacman Jones]

What does that mean? I wanted.

[Giannis Pappas]

Because 16 different people.

[Pacman Jones]

Sexual misconduct. What is that?

[Chrissy Chaos]

What does that mean?

[Giannis Pappas]

Stick in there probably.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Right.

[Giannis Pappas]

Without consent of the. The massage.

[Pacman Jones]

Okay.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Right now, what is it?

[Pacman Jones]

This guy.

[Chrissy Chaos]

That's Justin Tucker? Yeah.

[Pacman Jones]

Who is this guy?

[Chrissy Chaos]

He's the best field goal kicker, arguably, of all time. He was one of them.

[Giannis Pappas]

He had a horrible year.

[Chrissy Chaos]

He did have a horrible year this year.

[Giannis Pappas]

And you know why he had a horrible year? Tell me that shit right there. He knew all this shit was coming out.

[Chrissy Chaos]

He did, right? For real, right? He knew it.

[Giannis Pappas]

And they hit it, right?

[Chrissy Chaos]

So he. That's.

[Giannis Pappas]

They hit it, right? You know why they hit it? Because they needed his ass.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Right? And then once he had a horrible year, they said, fuck it, release it. Interesting.

[Giannis Pappas]

Same way they sound like the Texans did. Oh, boy. Huh?

[Chrissy Chaos]

Yeah. Yeah. Seriously.

[Pacman Jones]

Are you talking about.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Yeah.

[Giannis Pappas]

The owner brought craft.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Yeah.

[Pacman Jones]

Yeah.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Yep. Yeah. So I wonder if. Yeah. This is a good way to get out of a contract. Just say, you know what? Let's release the story about him getting happy endings.

[Pacman Jones]

Yeah. Because I mean, like, 16.

[Giannis Pappas]

I mean, let's do it at the playoffs, too. Let's not try to. He already going through the shit. He already know what's going on. He's in a fucking slump right here. The last six weeks of the season.

[Pacman Jones]

Yeah.

[Giannis Pappas]

Can we just give the guy a little slack so we can try to win the Super Bowl?

[Chrissy Chaos]

Yeah.

[Pacman Jones]

Yeah.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Well, that's the thing, too, is like, you know. You know I did a show with Tiki Barber, right? Tiki Barber. Tiki's the man. And Tiki told me. He goes, you know, where as much as, you know, we're living our dream and all that, we're just reg. We're men. At the end of the day, he goes. So if you go, he goes. You know, sometimes a player would have a bad game. Like, Tiki was like, the times I have a bad game, it's like, maybe I got to fight my wife. Maybe my kid isn't doing good in school like anything else that would fuck us up on stage as comedians could me up on the field the same shit. So when nobody could figure out why.

[Giannis Pappas]

This, why he ain't never missed because.

[Chrissy Chaos]

He knew that they were, they were going to come at him with the happy endings. So what? So I guess he'll get thrown off. But what did his wife say? Is his wife okay with this? I mean, at the end of the day, why, why can't wives, why does happy endings have to be cheating? Why can't the wives just allow that? If it's part of the body and there's no kissing on the mouth. I don't even know her fucking name.

[Giannis Pappas]

Right.

[Chrissy Chaos]

It's just a hand. I got my eyes closed. What the hell? How else am I supposed to get through this?

[Pacman Jones]

Yeah.

[Chrissy Chaos]

I can't do anything.

[Pacman Jones]

I don't know, it just seems fishy that two players, 16, I mean, well, look at Sean Watson had what, 16? Or he had a lot too.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Look at this thing. The false allegations. The wife said the false allegations against, against Justin have caused so much hurt to our family. I believe my husband and I love and support him fully. So that means she just allowed him to get happy ending.

[Pacman Jones]

Look, it's a stressful job. I love it.

[Giannis Pappas]

Yeah, I love it.

[Pacman Jones]

This guy's got a stressful job. He's sitting on the side side. He, he's a converted soccer player, whatever. These guys are out there playing the whole game and then he comes onto the field. You know how much stress it is. All these guys in the team look at him like, you better make this or beat your ass. The guy needs a happy end up to blow off some.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Now look, now look, here's the thing. If he was though, and again, I don't understand. If he was actually grabbing them and putting the hand on a dick without them, they think they're, you know, just doing a massage. That's a different story. And that's maybe what happened. Right? But I got to be honest, you go to some of these places and they just start doing. Doing it. Yeah, I've heard.

[Giannis Pappas]

You heard?

[Chrissy Chaos]

I've heard. My friend told me.

[Giannis Pappas]

Sources.

[Chrissy Chaos]

My friend told me. And so my friend told me that that's what they do. And if that's doing that, then how can I stop it? But I have to think, if it's 16 women, he was probably on his body grabs and you can't do that.

[Giannis Pappas]

Fifteen is a lot.

[Chrissy Chaos]

That's a lot. You can't come back from 16.

[Pacman Jones]

All I know Is this is a very stressful job.

[Chrissy Chaos]

It is.

[Pacman Jones]

It is very stressful job.

[Giannis Pappas]

I will say it is.

[Pacman Jones]

Every game is like a playoff game. You're out there in negative degree weather in Wisconsin. Every time you get hit it feels like a car CR crashes. All this pressures. No guaranteed money in the NFL.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Let me ask you this. Is there a team?

[Pacman Jones]

I would need a Handy at least 100. Yeah. I would need a handy 100% to be able.

[Giannis Pappas]

That's at least, at least make sure she sign up for it.

[Pacman Jones]

Yeah, at least.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Now let me ask you this. If was there, if was there a team that if you were like I do not want to play for that team because I you watch never. You don't want to live in that city.

[Giannis Pappas]

I hate everything about it.

[Chrissy Chaos]

What is it? What? What is it?

[Giannis Pappas]

Everything, bro. Just stanky ass city. The river's ugly.

[Chrissy Chaos]

I agree.

[Giannis Pappas]

The colors stink. Potholes everywhere. When you drive through the fucking city. It's nothing like even if they were.

[Chrissy Chaos]

A playoff team, you're like, I don't care.

[Giannis Pappas]

I would never wow Pittsburgh because you're from Cincinnati.

[Chrissy Chaos]

So that's a rival.

[Giannis Pappas]

Well I'm from Atlanta but I went to West Virginia too. So don't forget about the rival between the backyard brawl between Pitt and West Virginia.

[Pacman Jones]

Yeah.

[Giannis Pappas]

Wow.

[Chrissy Chaos]

So Pittsburgh is the city.

[Giannis Pappas]

Yeah.

[Chrissy Chaos]

So you'd rather you would play anywhere else? Anywhere besides any interesting you playing Jacksonville?

[Giannis Pappas]

Even the players coming out coming out now and saying how shitty Pittsburgh is. See the running back went to the Chargers. He told him like the city is stink. The facility is horrible.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Pittsburgh.

[Giannis Pappas]

Yeah.

[Chrissy Chaos]

What I thought they were like don't.

[Giannis Pappas]

Say nothing good about Pittsburgh. Don't the show.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Huh?

[Giannis Pappas]

Don't talk good about Pittsburgh.

[Chrissy Chaos]

No, no, no, no. I'm not. I will be there in November. Go to Christy comedy.com for tickies. But yeah, I will agree with Pac man here them. But when he. Yeah but I will say but I thought that they were like a premier franchise like the Giants and the Steelers, like these legacy franchises that treated everybody good. I guess I'm wrong. All right.

[Pacman Jones]

Pac man does not like Pittsburgh.

[Chrissy Chaos]

He does not like Pittsburgh. Hey, you know what? I, I, I support that.

[Pacman Jones]

Yeah, yeah.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Whatever people want to do.

[Pacman Jones]

I feel that way about Jacksonville as a city.

[Chrissy Chaos]

You don't like Jacksonville? Yes, yes. I don't like Indianapolis as a city.

[Giannis Pappas]

Yeah, indie do suck too.

[Pacman Jones]

Yeah.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Yeah. Indie kind of sucks. Let's be honest, dude.

[Giannis Pappas]

It ain't worse than Pittsburgh though.

[Chrissy Chaos]

It ain't worse than Pittsburgh, but let's be honest. Okay. You got the big ones. You got New York, Atlanta, L.A. chicago, Miami, Dallas, Bro. And Dallas.

[Giannis Pappas]

Dallas should be.

[Chrissy Chaos]

What else?

[Pacman Jones]

I mean, what are like Dallas, huh?

[Giannis Pappas]

Yeah.

[Pacman Jones]

Yeah.

[Chrissy Chaos]

You would play for the Cowboys all day?

[Giannis Pappas]

Yeah. Everything's different in Jerry Row.

[Pacman Jones]

Oh, you like John.

[Chrissy Chaos]

I can imagine.

[Pacman Jones]

Yeah.

[Giannis Pappas]

I love all the perks that come with it, too.

[Pacman Jones]

He. Is he the guy who gives the most perks? Probably.

[Giannis Pappas]

It's the city that give you the most perks.

[Pacman Jones]

Okay.

[Giannis Pappas]

Like, everybody got a deal. Everybody. Like, if you on practice squad with the Cowboys, you're good to go. I hate to say, like, but it's businesses lined up outside of the.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Let's just say. Let's just say if Justin Tucker was playing for the Cowboys, he'd have a different life right now.

[Giannis Pappas]

Yes, he would.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Yeah. Yeah. Those.

[Giannis Pappas]

Jazzly would.

[Pacman Jones]

Jerry protects the guys a little more. He. More understanding. I respect that. Yeah, Yeah.

[Giannis Pappas]

I would say that. Yeah.

[Pacman Jones]

Yeah.

[Giannis Pappas]

And, like, just being on the Cowboys is different than any organization that I've been to, and I've had a lot of people that played in the NFL, but, like, yeah, Cowboys different. Yeah, Cowboys different. Denver treats you good, too, though. Denver was a good spot.

[Pacman Jones]

How do you navigate all that? When you're a professional athlete and you're a star, how do you navigate. Women are just throwing yourself. You go. You know, you go play in Miami, you go to Prime. I'm sure there's women at the bar. Just.

[Chrissy Chaos]

It's not easy.

[Pacman Jones]

Yeah. You got to stay away from. How do you know?

[Chrissy Chaos]

How.

[Pacman Jones]

How do you. How do you deal with that? How do young guys deal with it?

[Giannis Pappas]

It's just like McDonald's, bro.

[Pacman Jones]

Yeah.

[Giannis Pappas]

Go through the line, you figure out if you want to buy something or not.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Right. Simple as that, bro.

[Giannis Pappas]

Simple as that.

[Pacman Jones]

Right.

[Chrissy Chaos]

See, what I love about Pac Man Jones, he doesn't have blood pressure issues, dude. He's not stressed out about anything. He's like, I got ways to figure this out.

[Pacman Jones]

Yeah.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Yeah. Which I respect. I like.

[Giannis Pappas]

It's the answer to everything there is.

[Pacman Jones]

Right.

[Giannis Pappas]

You know what I mean? How you explain the answer to whoever you got to answer to?

[Chrissy Chaos]

Yeah.

[Pacman Jones]

What have you learned? Have you gained a lot of wisdom because you're a guy, you know, the media always talks about you, and what have you. What have you learned about life? What is life about?

[Giannis Pappas]

Life is about being happy, bro.

[Pacman Jones]

Yeah.

[Giannis Pappas]

And I learned, like, it don't matter how much money you. You got to be mentally okay. You get what I'm saying?

[Chrissy Chaos]

Right?

[Pacman Jones]

That's priceless. Right?

[Giannis Pappas]

It's priceless.

[Pacman Jones]

Yeah.

[Giannis Pappas]

Everybody. Like, the money's gonna be there.

[Pacman Jones]

Yeah.

[Giannis Pappas]

Money's not hard to get.

[Pacman Jones]

Yeah.

[Giannis Pappas]

Being sane and making sure you mentally there every day and you enjoy yourself. Just you enjoying yourself is way more than the money part. So, like, I would say the. The. The biggest thing I've learned During these, what, 20 years, the last 20 years, I would say, is just being okay with myself, like, figuring out different things for me. You know what I mean? I've been in an unbelievable situation. Like, football changed my life, put me in rooms where I never would have thought I would been in. You know what? I'm. I pretty much done everything, like I got with the fucking president, so I done did a lot of shit. Which president right now?

[Pacman Jones]

Oh, Trump.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Yeah.

[Pacman Jones]

Yeah. What do you think about Trump?

[Giannis Pappas]

I love him. I already told you that.

[Chrissy Chaos]

It's his bro.

[Giannis Pappas]

I took that pigskin and adapted it into my way, which was not right every time.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Sure, but you did it your way.

[Giannis Pappas]

But I did it my way.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Well, what I like about you, Pac man, truly is I'm feeling your peace and wisdom. And it really is. Truly, I like, believe it wholeheartedly. And what I also like about you is the dichotomy of you because you are a peaceful, wise man. But make no mistake, I'm on bullshit time. You make. Make absolutely no mistake. You pop off with Pacman in the airport, you get punched in the face. I love that. I really ride with that aspect of you where it's like, bro, Much like the samurai, bro.

[Giannis Pappas]

That was Shaq, bro. I was protecting Shaq.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Wait, what?

[Giannis Pappas]

I didn't know Shaq was with me.

[Pacman Jones]

On that trip protecting Shaq. Who's. Who needs to protect Shaq?

[Chrissy Chaos]

Pac Man.

[Giannis Pappas]

Yeah, y'all should. Like, Shaq was on the show with me and Pat on Pat show, and he explained everything, but.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Okay, well, we'll watch that.

[Pacman Jones]

Okay.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Yeah, I didn't know. But. But the thing is, like, it's much like samurai stuff. That's why I brought it up. Because we, you know, we talk a little about samurai here. They were peaceful and. And. And stayed, you know, true wisdom. They had all these sayings, but they will behead you if you cross them. And that's what Pacman will do with a 1, 2. Right?

[Pacman Jones]

Well, it is true. You can't really be peaceful unless you're capable of great violence.

[Chrissy Chaos]

1,000.

[Pacman Jones]

Otherwise, you're just harmless.

[Chrissy Chaos]

The only way Pac man is capable.

[Pacman Jones]

Of great violence when.

[Chrissy Chaos]

When you. Yes, but. But that. But he got that through peace.

[Pacman Jones]

Yeah.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Pac man wasn't gonna Be able to be as peaceful as he is now without knocking a few heads off. And that's just what it is.

[Giannis Pappas]

And I respect, I think it's the weed now, though. I'll be so high.

[Pacman Jones]

Yeah, right.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Well, that's why he got the sunglasses on.

[Giannis Pappas]

No, this is just like mine.

[Chrissy Chaos]

It's just your luck.

[Pacman Jones]

So you smoke a lot of weed now?

[Giannis Pappas]

Smoke a lot of weed.

[Chrissy Chaos]

There it is.

[Pacman Jones]

And it helps mellow you out. Yeah, yeah. But now let me smoke a lot of weed while you were playing in the NFL. I've always smoked, always smoked good.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Well, that's why you said you're famous for. You said you used, you never used your own piss.

[Giannis Pappas]

Yeah, never.

[Pacman Jones]

What kind of nerdy friend do you have?

[Chrissy Chaos]

What?

[Giannis Pappas]

Clint? I got a couple good friends that, that, Right. That's been around me a long time. Like my best friend Chris Harveth.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Right.

[Giannis Pappas]

Left one with me from West Virginia.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Right.

[Giannis Pappas]

He had pretty good piss.

[Pacman Jones]

Let me just say this, though.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Shout out his piss.

[Giannis Pappas]

Yeah.

[Pacman Jones]

You're constantly in pain when you play football. I mean, it's either gonna be painkillers or weed, right?

[Giannis Pappas]

Are they giving you the painkillers?

[Pacman Jones]

Yeah. So why, what's worse, weed or painkillers?

[Giannis Pappas]

I prefer, I prefer.

[Pacman Jones]

Weed's not as bad as painkillers.

[Giannis Pappas]

I prefer the weed because if you take the painkillers, like you have soft tissue, so injuries. Yeah, I'm talking about hamstring, groins and all that. Because the pain pills, it basically dried your muscles.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Right. That's why I like when I think it was in the, was it who was from the Browns who kept getting suspended for weed?

[Giannis Pappas]

Oh, no, that was Josh Gordon. Josh Gordon.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Josh Gordon kept getting, I was like, this is such bullshit. Like, just let the guy smoke weed if it calms him down a little. He's an excellent player.

[Pacman Jones]

It's not a performance enhancing. If anything, it's a, it's a poor, it's a performance disinhibited. Right.

[Chrissy Chaos]

It could be, it could be. Like I said, it depends on how reaction it's going to hurt.

[Pacman Jones]

Hurt you.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Yeah, dude, I, I, I agree with that. I'm hoping that we get to a point in this thing where like we just, we, we remember, we remember that athletes are people first and they're going through problems, just like the guys in the fans are going through problems. And if, you know, you want to smoke a little weed to go because you got a big business meeting, same thing. I might not smoke a little weed because I'm in the Super Bowl. Right now?

[Pacman Jones]

Yeah.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Why do we have to drug test everybody for everything? It's to me. Let the guys just play. Yeah, I think that's, that's. I've always been not okay with that. I understand steroids. I get it. You don't want little kids doing steroids. I get that. But the weed, Come on, dude, it's legal.

[Giannis Pappas]

It's legal?

[Chrissy Chaos]

Yeah, it's legal.

[Pacman Jones]

Why? Suspended for. Yeah, now it is. It was unfortunate that it wasn't for so long because it's so stupid. Alcohol is much worse than weed.

[Chrissy Chaos]

I mean do. Ricky Williams was. The guy was so high. We do his fucking interviews with his helmet on.

[Pacman Jones]

Yeah.

[Giannis Pappas]

He didn't give a shit or dress.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Yeah, you don't give a fuck. I like a guy like that. That's awesome. Now let me ask you this, let me ask you this, Pac Man. The last time you said you got arrested was 2024, right?

[Giannis Pappas]

That's what I just got arrested.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Oh, you did. What happened recently? This is a lawyer calling in Dallas. Why'd you get what happened in Dallas?

[Giannis Pappas]

It was some little racist shit said.

[Chrissy Chaos]

And somebody who's racist against you.

[Giannis Pappas]

Yeah.

[Chrissy Chaos]

White guy.

[Giannis Pappas]

No, Mexican.

[Chrissy Chaos]

See, but I told you the whites were not the worst.

[Giannis Pappas]

Yeah. And I went to grab him and I accidentally like tapped the officer ass. Going to grab him. Oh, so you know. Oh no, he's hitting the officer. I hit this lady. I wouldn't do that. She had nothing to do with it. I was trying to get to his.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Ass, but trying to get. Yeah, to the Mexican guy. The officer was Mexican. No, the lady was Mexican.

[Giannis Pappas]

No, the guy, the guy, the guy.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Said something you get to.

[Giannis Pappas]

Yeah.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Was Mexican. Right. And you know what? And fucked that dude. And, and that's why we need the wall.

[Pacman Jones]

Yeah, it's for it.

[Giannis Pappas]

I think they already put up the wall before we did it. Didn't they shed the.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Yes.

[Giannis Pappas]

Didn't they shed the thing. The borders.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Yes, yeah, yes, exactly. Yeah, that's what we're saying. Yeah. See, me and Pac man, we. You know what I mean, we get it. Yeah, he's a lib cuck. Don't let him fall. He rides and dies with Biden. Yeah, yeah. Trash. Yeah, dude, I. That, but, but that, that's very, very, very interesting stuff, man. I think. Now do you think, Pac man, do you think this country, United States of America, you think we're heading for glory years? You think we're going up, up, up? A lot of people trying to talk shit about America now saying we're not as good as we used to be. What do you think?

[Giannis Pappas]

We've been in debt how long?

[Chrissy Chaos]

A long time. Long time.

[Giannis Pappas]

I'm trusting. What Trump?

[Pacman Jones]

Trump. Do you like Trump?

[Giannis Pappas]

Tax they ass. Yeah, Y tax them to get us to get our tax back.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Tariff.

[Giannis Pappas]

Yeah.

[Chrissy Chaos]

And we didn't even know what tariffs were. We got to be honest with you. We thought it was in the NFL. Thought it was Tariff.

[Pacman Jones]

Does sound like.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Yeah, yeah. We were like yo, Tariff Johnson, if.

[Giannis Pappas]

He'S American, that's not, that's not it.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Yeah, we're for him. But yeah, I agree too. I'm. I'm with the plan. I also don't know enough about politics and how to especially run an age to know I just like hey this guy seems like he knows what he's talking about. Let's just follow the lead. But Yanni feels different.

[Pacman Jones]

No, I. We just, we gotta. We're watching the American pie bake right now. Nobody knows what's going to happen. We're just looking at the oven turn out. You think it's going to be good?

[Giannis Pappas]

It's got to be good.

[Pacman Jones]

Yeah, it's going to be good.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Do you think they'll ever have football in the Olympics?

[Giannis Pappas]

That's a good question.

[Chrissy Chaos]

That'd be good, right?

[Giannis Pappas]

We would beat the out like who will we play against football? Yeah. Next Olympics got flat football. We lost in flat football ball. The last one.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Then we in the Olympics we lost in flag football.

[Giannis Pappas]

No, they had a, they had a flag thing because I was talking about, I'm like how the are we losing in flag football?

[Chrissy Chaos]

Yeah, come on dude, we're the best and no, we have to be the best football player we lose to in flag football.

[Pacman Jones]

Who else even play?

[Giannis Pappas]

They just had a flag football. Not long ago.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Were any ex NFL guys in the flag football?

[Giannis Pappas]

They had a flag football. Damn. When was it? They just had some with flag football. It was a couple different flag football.

[Chrissy Chaos]

And the Olympics flag football team will make its Olympic debut in LA in 2028. Olympics.

[Giannis Pappas]

Go back and google us. That is right there. Go down.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Which one?

[Giannis Pappas]

Go up, go up, go up. Right there.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Which one?

[Giannis Pappas]

One down.

[Chrissy Chaos]

There it is. Flag football is coming to the Olympics?

[Giannis Pappas]

No, but we played, we played something, somebody. Yeah, not mistaken. We just had a tournament or some with flat football.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Okay.

[Giannis Pappas]

We stunk up the place dude, because.

[Chrissy Chaos]

That is a good point though. Who would like basketball and other sports? You. There's many nations playing it and they thought he's playing.

[Pacman Jones]

Nobody else.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Canadians.

[Giannis Pappas]

It would be hard though, don't you think?

[Chrissy Chaos]

We lost to the Japanese. We lost to the Japanese.

[Pacman Jones]

What?

[Chrissy Chaos]

In flag football. What the what?

[Pacman Jones]

Japan.

[Chrissy Chaos]

How did we lose?

[Pacman Jones]

Yeah, well, first of all, who's on.

[Giannis Pappas]

The US Playing for Japan that can beat us?

[Chrissy Chaos]

Seriously? Yeah, who was it? Can you please pull up the Japanese flag football team and. Wait, Who.

[Pacman Jones]

Who's playing on the American team?

[Chrissy Chaos]

Yeah.

[Giannis Pappas]

I mean, nobody.

[Pacman Jones]

Yeah, seriously, that's the problem.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Yeah, dude. I mean, that. That is wild. That we lost to the Japanese and we got destroyed. What was the score? 41 to 20.

[Giannis Pappas]

It was bad.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Jesus Christ. Well, you know what, dude? We'll let Japan have a win because they got their asses kicked in World War II.

[Giannis Pappas]

Yeah, they did.

[Chrissy Chaos]

So we'll just let them. You know what? They could beat us in flag football, and that's about it. Yeah, well, this is good. Dude, we've been on with Pac Man Jones for close to 45 minutes, and neither one of us got punched in the face. So. So that's, I think, a win for the history hyenas right here.

[Pacman Jones]

Yes, it is.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Let me ask you this before we let you go, do you remember our names?

[Pacman Jones]

No way. I mean, dude, let's just ask him. There's no way.

[Giannis Pappas]

Yeah.

[Pacman Jones]

Dude, I don't even think I said mine.

[Chrissy Chaos]

That's it.

[Pacman Jones]

Yeah, we did.

[Chrissy Chaos]

At the beginning.

[Pacman Jones]

We did.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Yeah.

[Pacman Jones]

Yeah. There's no way he's going to remember mine.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Yeah, he's. He's going to go back like, yeah, I just did these Two White Girls Girls podcast.

[Pacman Jones]

Yeah. And he's got a better chance because yours is a normal name. Chris. He'll never remember. Said it. Right.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Yeah.

[Pacman Jones]

And mine. He might know mine. He might remember mine now, because Giannis.

[Giannis Pappas]

I know. Kevin.

[Pacman Jones]

Neither one.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Kevin. Neither one is one of his kids. But that's all right.

[Pacman Jones]

I'm Giannis. Like the bath.

[Chrissy Chaos]

I'm Giannis. And I'm Chris.

[Giannis Pappas]

Don't believe it.

[Pacman Jones]

It's true. No, it's true.

[Chrissy Chaos]

All right.

[Pacman Jones]

Yeah. Well, Pac man man, they call me Ms. Pac Man.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Yeah.

[Pacman Jones]

Oh, yeah, no, there's a Ms. Pac man, too.

[Chrissy Chaos]

What do you mean, there's a video? Oh, in the video game. Ms. Pac Man.

[Pacman Jones]

Yeah. You call your girl Ms. Pac man or. No, no, no, no.

[Giannis Pappas]

My wife. Yeah, yeah.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Oh, you do call her Ms. Pacman.

[Giannis Pappas]

I got the mixed Pac man chain, too.

[Chrissy Chaos]

How many kids do you have?

[Giannis Pappas]

Three.

[Chrissy Chaos]

That's a nice number.

[Giannis Pappas]

Yeah, I got.

[Chrissy Chaos]

I got three as well. He has two.

[Pacman Jones]

I got two.

[Chrissy Chaos]

We got a lot of girls.

[Giannis Pappas]

Girls, I mean.

[Pacman Jones]

Two girls for me.

[Chrissy Chaos]

I got two girls and a boy.

[Giannis Pappas]

Oh, Damn. We just like two girls and a boy. Yeah.

[Chrissy Chaos]

That's it, baby.

[Giannis Pappas]

Yeah.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Yes. So that's nice.

[Giannis Pappas]

Is the boy the youngest?

[Chrissy Chaos]

The boy's the oldest.

[Giannis Pappas]

Oh, my boy's the youngest.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Nice. And then your daughter's other.

[Giannis Pappas]

My daughter is at Mississippi State right now. Shout out to Zaniyah.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Shout out Zaniyah.

[Giannis Pappas]

She just actually ran the SEC indoor championship the other day.

[Pacman Jones]

Oh, nice.

[Giannis Pappas]

And then I have my middle daughter, which is true. And she's 14. And then Joni's 7.

[Chrissy Chaos]

You think Joni. You want him to go to the NFL? Would you put him towards it or. No?

[Giannis Pappas]

He's definitely going to be tough. If I had to bet right now, he'd be top five pick either in NFL or. Or soccer.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Really?

[Pacman Jones]

He's good.

[Chrissy Chaos]

He's good at soccer.

[Pacman Jones]

Yeah.

[Giannis Pappas]

Start fast, kid. In the country right now.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Wow. At seven.

[Giannis Pappas]

At seven. That's when they run the 13th flag. Seven years old, bro.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Now, do you. You don't mind if he plays in the NFL? Even with the CTE stuff. You don't care.

[Giannis Pappas]

You want to play getting CTE goddamn walking around.

[Chrissy Chaos]

For real?

[Giannis Pappas]

Like, for real, for real.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Yeah.

[Giannis Pappas]

And we need to stop wearing these caps of our helmets. And I'm so sick of this. I actually had a conversation with the dude that originally, like. And it's no data saying that this should help you, like, from getting concussions. He did this shit for seven on seven.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Right.

[Giannis Pappas]

It was never really supposed to be for guys to wear this shit in the NFL.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Right, Right.

[Giannis Pappas]

I think they should ban it.

[Chrissy Chaos]

You think they should ban it? Well, it looks stupid.

[Giannis Pappas]

It don't help.

[Chrissy Chaos]

So then where do you think the concussions come from? Is it just not being shown how to tackle proper?

[Giannis Pappas]

But it's gonna happen. You gotta realize, bro, us playing football is a fucking wreck every. Every tackle.

[Chrissy Chaos]

I know.

[Giannis Pappas]

Like, all right, so you. You think about the airbag busting you in your face every time you fucking stop, eventually you're gonna get a concussion.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Sure.

[Giannis Pappas]

If you get hit the right way.

[Pacman Jones]

Right.

[Giannis Pappas]

Or you might be lucky and don't get hit the right way and don't have a concussion.

[Chrissy Chaos]

I like.

[Pacman Jones]

So it's just sort of a warrior thing. Like, you're. You're playing the sport. You just got to know that that's it's gonna happen.

[Giannis Pappas]

Well, I'm saying, like, out of my whole career, I've never been concussed. Now I broke my. My neck, but I was still alert, yelling like, yo, I can't move. Help.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Right?

[Giannis Pappas]

But I've never Got hit where I'm like, right. Like, right. Never. Never had that.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Yeah, yeah. It's just because, you know, you've. Because it is. It is interesting though, because they always say the CTE happens so much in the NFL. But then you look at a sport like rugby where they're tackling with no helmets and it almost never happens. Cte.

[Giannis Pappas]

Yeah, but rugby is not football, bro. Come on.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Yeah.

[Giannis Pappas]

Fuck are we talking about?

[Pacman Jones]

Exactly.

[Giannis Pappas]

This is like real life bullets out here, right?

[Pacman Jones]

Yeah.

[Giannis Pappas]

And people like Joke and Kiki and ha about different sports and shit. But like, just think about football. If LeBron's son was the. Let's say LeBron was a running back and his son was who he is now in basketball, was coming to play football. He would never play.

[Chrissy Chaos]

No.

[Giannis Pappas]

Because he'd get killed.

[Chrissy Chaos]

He get killed. Right.

[Giannis Pappas]

As far as I'm talking about compact colleagues. Like, the football is way different than any sport, bro.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Right.

[Giannis Pappas]

And I'm.

[Pacman Jones]

Feels like a car accident. Right.

[Giannis Pappas]

When you get hit, it's just live bullets. Like, for real. Like motherfuckers playing for job. And I know all the teams I played on and I've been captains of the defense. We ain't helping nobody up. And we are really out there trying to demolish people.

[Pacman Jones]

Right.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Yeah. Who was the hardest guy for you to tackle, if there was one? I know you could tackle anybody, but was it like, if I. To put. This guy is tough to get down. Who was it?

[Giannis Pappas]

I would say Ricky. Ricky Williams.

[Pacman Jones]

It's like a little muscle.

[Giannis Pappas]

Yeah, he was a muscle. I won't say nobody with Pittsburgh. Pittsburgh had a good running back one a couple years. But yeah, I would say Ricky Williams.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Ricky Williams.

[Giannis Pappas]

Yeah.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Did you.

[Pacman Jones]

Did you. Yeah. Derrick Henry. You guys overlap? No. Yeah.

[Giannis Pappas]

I play against Derrick Henry.

[Pacman Jones]

Yeah. Is he.

[Chrissy Chaos]

He seems tough.

[Pacman Jones]

I mean, that's.

[Giannis Pappas]

Yeah, but like, you could hit Derrick Henry low. Ricky Williams is like. Don't matter how low you get, he's gonna get down there with.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Keep going. Saquon would probably be hard to tackle.

[Giannis Pappas]

Like, that's a better match for me. Like maybe for a taller guy or somebody. Like. But like my pad level.

[Chrissy Chaos]

You can hit him hard. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, dude. Because the cornerbacks are coming, flying and the safety, I mean, that is wild. Like high speed collision, hard. Like when a receiver's over the middle extending his arms. I mean. Jesus Christ.

[Giannis Pappas]

Yeah.

[Pacman Jones]

I got a good question. Who's the best white quarterback of all time?

[Chrissy Chaos]

White cornerback.

[Pacman Jones]

Yeah.

[Chrissy Chaos]

There's only one. Jason Seahorn.

[Pacman Jones]

Right. That's it.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Right.

[Pacman Jones]

I think that's it.

[Giannis Pappas]

I know.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Yeah, that's. I think there's only one.

[Giannis Pappas]

Yeah.

[Pacman Jones]

So I guess that's it.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Him. We only have one, and then we.

[Giannis Pappas]

Got one for real.

[Chrissy Chaos]

And then you got. Christian McAffrey is the one. White running back. That's it. Yeah.

[Pacman Jones]

Well, John.

[Giannis Pappas]

No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. We got John Riggins. My boy was good, though, who played with. He played with me with the Bengals and played with the Patriots out of Wisconsin. Damn. What's his name?

[Chrissy Chaos]

Oh, what, not Wes Welker? What was Wes Welker?

[Pacman Jones]

No, he was a receiver.

[Giannis Pappas]

Running back.

[Pacman Jones]

The only other thing I can think of, John Riggins from the Redskins. The only other.

[Chrissy Chaos]

I don. I mean, to me it's just McAffrey.

[Giannis Pappas]

Oh, I can't think his name. What? 33.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Who the hell is it? Jesse White, running back, Patriots, Bengals.

[Giannis Pappas]

He play with Bengals.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Patriots and Bengals. Let's see. There's only going to be one.

[Giannis Pappas]

And you ask me, how do I ever forget people names?

[Chrissy Chaos]

Right? There it is.

[Pacman Jones]

James White.

[Chrissy Chaos]

No, he. Yeah, James White. He said he played for Wisconsin.

[Giannis Pappas]

No, it's not James White, but the name.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Okay.

[Pacman Jones]

Caitlyn Clark.

[Giannis Pappas]

Not Caitlyn Clark. Rex.

[Pacman Jones]

Rex Burkhead.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Yeah.

[Giannis Pappas]

Rex Burkhead was a fucking dog.

[Pacman Jones]

Yeah. Look at him right there.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Look at that guy. Rex Burkhead. Yeah, there it is.

[Giannis Pappas]

Rex was good. Rex probably. He's probably by far the best white running back. White running back that I've seen in person.

[Pacman Jones]

Right. Christian McCaffrey, obviously the best. Yeah.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Right.

[Pacman Jones]

And then shout out John Riggins. He played for the Redskins. That's about it.

[Chrissy Chaos]

An old school guy.

[Pacman Jones]

Yeah.

[Chrissy Chaos]

What? We need more. All the way back in the six.

[Pacman Jones]

Oh, Frank Gifford. Yeah.

[Chrissy Chaos]

But what would you rather have? Would you rather have a white running back or a black field goal kicker? Yeah.

[Pacman Jones]

How come there's no black field goal kickers?

[Chrissy Chaos]

There should be. There's one black punter who's on the ring.

[Giannis Pappas]

You know why? Because it's like doing surgery. It's like brain surgery, being a kicker. Guys don't want that. Pressure.

[Pacman Jones]

Yeah, the pressure of it, dude, it is. So did you ever, like, say anything to a kicker when he missed, like, lit. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So guys are. Guys are tough on the kicker. If you miss, go kick.

[Giannis Pappas]

I don't. I can't speak for everybody else, but.

[Pacman Jones]

You ever slap one?

[Giannis Pappas]

No, I ain't never slapped one, but I. It's like Mike N Missed a big kick with us when we was with the Bengals, and I just Couldn't hold it. I just went off like, you got one job to do. And Mike is my boy too.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Yeah. Really cool months. Was he like, sorry he left.

[Giannis Pappas]

He just hurry up and get out of there.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Yeah, he just. Yeah.

[Pacman Jones]

I mean that much.

[Chrissy Chaos]

It is pressure, man.

[Giannis Pappas]

It is pressure.

[Pacman Jones]

Imagine like it is. Yeah.

[Giannis Pappas]

And it's pressure because your ass in there playing ping pong while we in meetings. And like the kickers don't do, bro.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Yeah, they just kid. They just kidding. They don't have to be at any of those meetings and practice, do they?

[Giannis Pappas]

They had the team meeting and special team meeting.

[Pacman Jones]

So, so let me ask you again. What is the point of the field goal in the game of football?

[Giannis Pappas]

Like, bro, that, that, that permanent games.

[Pacman Jones]

Yeah, but that's the problem. Don't you think, don't you think it's.

[Giannis Pappas]

I love it. Like, I, I, I hope they stop fucking with the game. Let's put the kickoff back to where it was. I don't have no problem with you backing the kick up five yards. Cause we want more returns as a returner. I want more returns. Cool with that. But all this shit. Where you up here? Half line. It's a practice drill.

[Pacman Jones]

Yeah. I mean, what is, what are they doing now? It's like, it's, it's like a formality. It just starts at the 24.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Trying to ruin a good thing. I heard them saying that because Steph Curry has revolutionized the NBA that they want to remove the three point line. I'm like, are you stupid?

[Pacman Jones]

Yeah, just.

[Chrissy Chaos]

You should make a seven point shot.

[Pacman Jones]

Yeah. Yeah. Pac Man's got to go.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Oh, Pac Man's got to go. Yeah, who's, who is it? Is his wife or his pr because we're not listening to the pr. This white people I listen to. This is what Rex Burkhead's doing. He's outside.

[Pacman Jones]

It looks like a field kicker.

[Chrissy Chaos]

This is Pac man tells us to go. He's out of here. Yeah, but this guy. No way. All right, fine. See you later, Pac Man. Where can people see you?

[Giannis Pappas]

Hey, you could catch me on everything, man. The Pac Man Jones show. Right now I'm brought to you by betonline ag Politely Raw. We got good things going on and we just, we talk about everything. I'll probably have a conversation about this interview today on the show, so.

[Pacman Jones]

Nice.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Hell yeah.

[Pacman Jones]

Also, he's a good follow. He's a great follow on the Gram.

[Giannis Pappas]

Oh yeah, right.

[Pacman Jones]

I love following him on the Gram.

[Giannis Pappas]

I'll be talking a little on you.

[Pacman Jones]

Go crazy like grams.

[Giannis Pappas]

Yeah, real Pac Man 24 on the ground.

[Pacman Jones]

Yeah.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Love it, bro. Thank you, man. Thank you.

[Giannis Pappas]

Smell me.

[Chrissy Chaos]

All right, well, Pac Man Jones just left and Giannis wants to talk more about samurai because the kid is horned up.

[Pacman Jones]

I'm horned up. And boy, his hair, like, his hair was. Almost looked like he was a samurai.

[Chrissy Chaos]

He really looked great. And I will tell you, I mean, you didn't see him. We'll post a picture of it because we took a picture after. He's wearing a full sweater. He's wearing a sweater and then pants that are the same sweater material. And they're bell bottoms like Kendrick Lamar.

[Pacman Jones]

Yeah. And they're like, just dirty because they're just sweeping the floor. It's almost like a skateboard.

[Chrissy Chaos]

What's happened now is with culture. This is why culture is wild. And you can never predict anything. Is that now culture, cultural? Fashion for black men has, Is now turning into women in the 70s.

[Pacman Jones]

Yeah.

[Chrissy Chaos]

That's just what their fashion has become. And you would have never guessed that.

[Pacman Jones]

Yeah. And it is interesting, you know, and.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Baggy pants and Nazis are back.

[Pacman Jones]

They're back. Nazis are huge right now. Yeah, it is. Really. I mean, Nazis and baggy clothes are back is a good way to go.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Get yourself a suit from Hugo Boss to do a nice deal.

[Pacman Jones]

Yeah, the early 90s came back and so did the, the. The 40s. Yeah, the 40s and the 90s are back.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Back, baby.

[Pacman Jones]

Yeah, it's the mixture of the 40s.

[Chrissy Chaos]

So what else did you want to say about Samurai's. Cuz you're a goop, I'm a goop.

[Pacman Jones]

And I just, I, I think we just cap it off with a nice cherry on top to say that that is in the Japanese culture. And then when the gun came to.

[Chrissy Chaos]

The Portuguese from the Portuguese dirt bags.

[Pacman Jones]

Then the Japanese res. The samurais resisted it because it was like a dishonorable way because you could kill from distance. But. But then, then they gave in and then they became the biggest gun maker on the. They were making more guns than Europe, than everybody. They made all these guns. They made all these weapons. They just started making guns.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Right.

[Pacman Jones]

And they became militarized. And then that samurai thing was still in there, though, because, you know, they, when they got the guns, they turned into a strong nation. They closed the borders. No foreigners, and it was a uniform by Japan. And then they started attacking other places.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Yeah.

[Pacman Jones]

And they started attacking and they wanted to control. They attacked Korea, they attacked China, because listen. And they were dirtbags. They weren't nice.

[Chrissy Chaos]

They were dirtbags in World War II. They were needed to be stopped, dude.

[Pacman Jones]

And that's the thing. They were brutal. So I think the thing about the samurai is, I wanted to mention is like, we talk about the honor, we talk about the code, we talk about that they were these high minded warrior poets and everything. Everything. But really, at the end of the day, they were human like everybody else.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Yes.

[Pacman Jones]

And they were dirt bags. And they went and they raped and they pillaged and then they went to China and raped and pillaged. They went to Korea, they raped and pillaged, they killed, massacred children, everybody. And then World War II comes and like you said, that samurai culture that was in the Japanese warrior code where they kill themselves. And that's what's so funny is these guys just use their own deaths as weapons.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Yeah.

[Pacman Jones]

Which is very funny.

[Chrissy Chaos]

It's what it is.

[Pacman Jones]

It's just they use their deaths as weapons. And then they became that samurai code, became kamikaze pilots.

[Chrissy Chaos]

And they've been doing it honestly from the beginning of time that most cultures do.

[Pacman Jones]

And a lot of the people, when they were, when they started losing, would just. The civilians. A lot of them would just kill themselves.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Yeah.

[Pacman Jones]

Because they'd rather. They just was honorable. They would. There's footage that Americans got of just civilians jumping off cliffs.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Yeah.

[Pacman Jones]

Because they're just. It's the Japanese way. And I think that's why Lexus is such a good car.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Right.

[Pacman Jones]

Because if they make a mistake, they feel more.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Yeah.

[Pacman Jones]

Like they dishonored the company.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Right.

[Pacman Jones]

And they just walk out a window.

[Chrissy Chaos]

That's why. That's why the Japanese flag football team was able to beat the United States. Because they lose. They kill themselves.

[Pacman Jones]

They kill themselves.

[Chrissy Chaos]

It's just what is. You'll just see them hanging from their bedrooms with flags around.

[Pacman Jones]

And that's why Lexus is a great car. Do you. Maybe we can like really bring great comedy back. Like if you bomb, you just got to go walk out of a window.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Yeah, yeah. It's what it is.

[Pacman Jones]

Samurai culture.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Samurai culture.

[Pacman Jones]

Yeah. So.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Oh, yeah. Jesse's got to go get a pen because we're about to read the Patreon names. Of course, at patreon.com history HYENAS is where all, all the fun happens. We got great episodes there. We've brought back walk and talks. We, we're doing a lot of [e-mail].

[Pacman Jones]

Don'T forget our live show. We just. There's a live show up there, was a great show. We did a Gotham comedy club. That's up there.

[Chrissy Chaos]

And you know what we're going to start doing now? We're going to start live streaming our live shows because they're so much fun. So if you can't get to our city, the only way you can see them [e-mail] history hyenas. And that's coming soon. And here we go. Yeah, you throw me the pen.

[Pacman Jones]

Yeah. And see me coming up in Rochester, Cleveland and San Diego. Get your tickets at History Hyenas is back dot com.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Go over there. Giannis is back dot com for Giannis's dates. And then I got all my dates. I'm in Austin and Dallas and Houston in April. I'm in Albany at the Egg. And I am in New Haven, Connecticut at College Street Music Hall. Those are my April dates. And then September 11th, Madison Square Garden, New York City. And then just check out all the dates. And then also, dude, we got some sweet merch [e-mail] but the fun happens there. And patreon.com history hyenas. Okay, here's. Here we go. Welcome to the matriarchy. We got Justin, dj. Then we got Fee Flow Fum, I'm the finger. And Chrissy's bum.

[Pacman Jones]

Okay.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Nice $3 bill for a Blackstone Grill.

[Pacman Jones]

Okay.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Like that. John dillon, Homer Holloway Jr. Then we got Chrissy D. Peel back the fume, hood on a muzzy's pee and give it a kiss for me.

[Pacman Jones]

Okay.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Then we got Biden, Secretary of Transsexual Defense. If Donnie wasn't busy building the fence.

[Pacman Jones]

Drexer. Good one.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Drexer.

[Pacman Jones]

Good one.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Kevin Hoenicki. Then we got Peace smaller than Yanni's unibrow.

[Pacman Jones]

Okay.

[Giannis Pappas]

Okay.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Yanni. Cyclopoppus. Sounds like a drug cry.

[Pacman Jones]

Yeah.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Put me on the list or fill my booty with your fist.

[Pacman Jones]

We're gonna. We're gonna put that on the list.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Okay.

[Pacman Jones]

Yeah.

[Chrissy Chaos]

We got our first list. You're on the list.

[Pacman Jones]

That guy's got a leaky roof.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Vinky Stagina like that.

[Pacman Jones]

Yeah.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Then we got Annaleen's lipstick covered Sig from Finland. Yeah, I like shout out to our Finnish fan.

[Pacman Jones]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Donnie T's and Ladder 14. Donnie T. Send Ladder 14 to Gaza.

[Pacman Jones]

Oh, it's a Drexler. It's a funny one, though. Very funny. Laugh fact.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Then we got blonde hair, blue eyes. Where's my Hugo Boss?

[Pacman Jones]

Okay.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Hey, Nazi one.

[Pacman Jones]

Yeah.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Then we got Barney Rubble as my hall pass. Somebody wants to bag my dad.

[Pacman Jones]

Drexler. Chicken finger.

[Chrissy Chaos]

More, by the way. Shout out to the fans. In Tampa and Orlando who came out to my shows. Tampa. Tony was in the building. And he really appreciates the.

[Pacman Jones]

Someone took a picture of him. Snuck a picture.

[Chrissy Chaos]

People took multiple pictures of him. He was taking pictures outside Tampa in Orlando. And I really. I really appreciate that. And thank you to whatever fan bought him new compression socks. He really appreciates that. So then we got Saka Jawea, AKA Lewis, and Clark's Emotional Support Native. Then we got. Let's Build a new Panama Canal between Yanni's eyes.

[Pacman Jones]

That's a good one.

[Chrissy Chaos]

That's a good one.

[Pacman Jones]

That's a good one.

[Chrissy Chaos]

For the list, though, right? Or. What do you think?

[Pacman Jones]

What do you think? That's a good one. That's a good one. One.

[Chrissy Chaos]

No.

[Pacman Jones]

Separate My Eyes with canal.

[Chrissy Chaos]

I like that.

[Pacman Jones]

I like that.

[Chrissy Chaos]

It's actually not a bad idea. Think about for the future.

[Pacman Jones]

Yeah.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Michael Blum, Cole Harris. Then we got Ari's Hemorrhoid Death Battle. Taylor Hall, Crystal G. Then we got Small Dick. Come Quick. It's what it is.

[Pacman Jones]

Chicken Finger.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Yeah. Then we got Barack is a UCF because of Michelle's BBC Namin.

[Pacman Jones]

Okay.

[Chrissy Chaos]

I met Chrissy and Frank Lee. He gay, frankly.

[Pacman Jones]

He's frankly, frankly gay.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Got it. All right. Like that?

[Pacman Jones]

More of a fact.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Okay. Then we got bidets for the table so we can pee on our chest.

[Pacman Jones]

These for the tables. Close.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Because I say every time I get water in.

[Pacman Jones]

Yeah.

[Chrissy Chaos]

My body. Right. So that's what they're saying, the bidets. Okay. I like it. Then we got Hold Me Closer, Tony Danza Tongue. My Fart Box on the guideway. Like a hybrid. Okay. J9099. Then we got Starling Connecting me to Yanni's hiney Hole.

[Pacman Jones]

Funny.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Then we got mixing creatine with electrolytes and committing suicide. Okay. Want to call for help?

[Pacman Jones]

Yeah.

[Chrissy Chaos]

XM10, Rebecca Diaz, John Cena's Mandarin instructor, aka Xi Jinping.

[Pacman Jones]

It's really funny. I'm going to drex through that. That's really funny.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Then we got Harriet Tumman's Underground Glass Table Party.

[Pacman Jones]

I get that.

[Chrissy Chaos]

I don't know. All right, but thank you.

[Pacman Jones]

Yeah.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Tullock Brown, Joy Simmons. Then we got Indian Jones and his Temple of Fumes.

[Pacman Jones]

Put them on the list.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Put them on the list.

[Pacman Jones]

Put them on the list.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Like Indiana Jones, Temple of Doom. This is very good.

[Pacman Jones]

Yeah.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Udai Sawa Carlitos. Then we got Paint and Puff Daddy, Leroy Daniel Techart, Ladder 69. Then we got Tim Dylan and Yanni's trans daughter. I guess, like, if you Guys had a trans daughter.

[Pacman Jones]

Yeah.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Okay. Anthony Dale Roberts Milkman Tevin. Bryce Mitchell. Bryce Mitchell's fishing buddy.

[Pacman Jones]

That's funny because Bryce Mitchell, he's an MMA fighter and he's. He hates Jews, but it's. Yeah, that's funny. Okay.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Andrew Taint.

[Pacman Jones]

Andrew Taint is a chicken.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Chicken finger Cash Patel, Cab smell. Did we walk into one? Is it on the list?

[Pacman Jones]

Walked into one, but again, it's one of those. It's like the Oven Dodger. I mean, it's a. But you walk into one.

[Chrissy Chaos]

What do you want to do here?

[Pacman Jones]

I want to list them.

[Giannis Pappas]

Okay.

[Pacman Jones]

I'm gonna list them. Yeah.

[Chrissy Chaos]

All right. Then we got Throwing frisbees out of a Chimneys, 1945.

[Pacman Jones]

Wow.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Can't do that. Walked into one. That is not okay.

[Pacman Jones]

Good one.

[Chrissy Chaos]

That's not okay though.

[Pacman Jones]

Not okay.

[Chrissy Chaos]

That one. We can't say.

[Pacman Jones]

Can't do that. That one.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Then we got the UCF recruiter. Chris, your card was declined. Please call us back asap. Okay? Okay. That's a funny one.

[Pacman Jones]

Yeah.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Then we got. Make no mistake, at the end of the day, I got fumes. It's what it is, cuz. Tain fumes. Because my is bigger than my dick. Katie Crane, Long island sauce monkey. Chrissy was a toot for hey Bay, but now he know Gay Bay.

[Pacman Jones]

Okay.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Walker Cotton. Josh Route. Kyle O'Grady. Alex Perez. Make no mistake, I have a beaner wiener.

[Pacman Jones]

If he just did beaner weiner, that.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Would have been good.

[Pacman Jones]

That would have been a great chicken finger. There we go.

[Chrissy Chaos]

I bleed red, white and blue, but I lean white. Okay, Slumpy Crump.

[Pacman Jones]

Okay.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Chris Eggleston. Tammy the X2. Ready to get cracked open and cleaned out after I finish my shift. Me and you drinking brews, eating Netanyahu's Jew glue. Ste.

[Pacman Jones]

It's a good one, Drexler.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Okay. Then we got Yoff Yitler. Touch my snitzler and cooked me all the way through. Okay.

[Pacman Jones]

Whoa. Walked into one. But Yoff Yitler is funny.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Funny.

[Pacman Jones]

That's where you cut it for yay. Yeah.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Then we got Nico Franks and Beans. Harrison. Guess that's the map.

[Pacman Jones]

Yeah, well, that's more of a fact. Security. I mean, that's bad cuz that Kyrie's out. I mean, everyone's done. They have to forfeit games. Yeah, I think they're gonna have to forfeit games because they don't have enough players.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Are you. Is that actual fact?

[Pacman Jones]

That's a fact.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Saw you in D.C. but I'd rather see you in me. Call me Chrissy D. Dylan King, Francisco Ruiz. Then we got your sausage linky in my Buddha. Chedge is a coin. Is a coinky dinky. Okay, Adam French, Clark Szyninski, half Greek, full fumes. It's what it is, cuz. Chrissy votes red, Yanni votes blue. Schultz isn't black, but he might be a Jew. Haiku.

[Pacman Jones]

It's a haiku.

[Chrissy Chaos]

It's a good Drexler Huff in the situation's muff. Now that's box cannot disparage your family.

[Giannis Pappas]

And we.

[Chrissy Chaos]

That is not okay. We won't stand for that.

[Pacman Jones]

It's box breathing.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Yeah. What it is, cuz.

[Pacman Jones]

And yeah. Can't do it.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Can't do it. Then we got rfq. Please don't ban Baked Zudy Sauce monkey.

[Pacman Jones]

Yeah.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Sha Brewer, Andrew Garland. Then we got last name Kaminsky. Make no mistake, Jack the Ripper is my uncle Nick Brockmire. Salsa monkey. TRUMP 2024. My dad's gone. Okay. Charmaine Childs. White power button instead of power bottom. Oh, he said white power bottom. Yeah, I misread. I'm sorry about that. Bad read.

[Pacman Jones]

Yeah.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Kaylin Crawford. Mikhail.

[Pacman Jones]

Gorgeous instead of Gorbachev. That's beautiful.

[Chrissy Chaos]

I like that. Finger Ticket finger. Milt Anthony Davis. Asia's Chrissy is so into meat. He has Tim Dillon beat Joshy Washy Nutty Woody. Rafael Salgado. Cuban with a leaky glue gun. AKA the Cuban Missile Crisis.

[Pacman Jones]

It's good.

[Chrissy Chaos]

It's good.

[Pacman Jones]

Good.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Thomas Arthur Adrian. Then we got Great whites. Pyro guy. Okay. Alexis Ferguson. Qwerty Julie Lewis and the fumes.

[Pacman Jones]

That's great.

[Chrissy Chaos]

What do we think?

[Pacman Jones]

That's great. Yeah, I'm gonna put it on the list.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Okay. Lewis and the fumes.

[Pacman Jones]

It's funny.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Like.

[Pacman Jones]

Yeah.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Kenneth Bishop. Trans porn Matters.

[Pacman Jones]

Drexler.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Drexler.

[Pacman Jones]

Chicken Finger More.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Then we got Chrissy's prostate versus Yanni from back in the day. Okay. Then we got. You're going to love my nuts. No choice because Slap Chop is back. Okay. Connor Max. Fumeless, Joe Jackson. Which we've had before, but it is a good one.

[Pacman Jones]

Yeah, it's a good one.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Lauren. Then we got Obama is a muzzy who drowned the chef in college. Tumsy. Okay, funny. Alex Garcia. Then we got Promethazine Paul Bunyan Parker Venus Anthony Ortega, Victor Oquendo, Matthew looking for glue from a Fumi Jew. Pee pee Poo poo Butazo Paige. Then we got. Oops. Glue to my mouth. Didn't spit it out. Does that make me gay?

[Pacman Jones]

Yeah, a little bit.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Yeah.

[Pacman Jones]

More. No more Self love.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Okay. Yeah. Hunter Straw Chris Candy. Then we got Dead Ass Yaya's Cookies make my Peen Tingle and Leaky Jose Barrera. Then we got Hyenas. Eat free on Tuesdays. But you need to check your glue guns at the door. One an oopsie daisy69. My wife is a haggis monkey. Her fumes smell like Mellie Gibbs and when she comes, she screams Freedom as a Scottish joke. Yeah, yeah. Protect me on the train. I need science to fix that.

[Pacman Jones]

Oh, that's a Marisa joke.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Okay. Nicole and Kaylor Franklin Joshua Gliddell Bear Brum Emory, Victor McCoy, Kevin Florida Flamer. Samuel Batters Sage Archibald. Fume Fume Sane Bolt. Beef Patty Monkey Few Same bolt.

[Pacman Jones]

Would have been good.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Yeah.

[Pacman Jones]

Guys, got to edit yourself. I'll give you a chicken finger Honore for Fuse Bolt. That's good.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Priusetti. Bobby Mack. Went to Tim Dillon's for game night. We play Twink Twister.

[Pacman Jones]

Funny. Almost. You got to edit Tim Dillon's. What is it? Twink Twister. That would have been on the list.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Twink Twister would have made it.

[Pacman Jones]

That would have made it. It.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Yeah. Dan Glisak, Nathan McEl. Noah Woodruff, Daniel Mike Murphy. Three inches deep and one finger in the stinker. Big Nuts Bill Hangles Bond. Marty Vorchuk. Rogan's Dick. Say that. All right, one more page. These are.

[Pacman Jones]

We're catching up.

[Chrissy Chaos]

And then. By the way, guys, we are almost caught up on the Patreon names. That's how supportive you guys are. @patreon.com history is like we are. It took us three months to catch up, so we really appreciate the support.

[Pacman Jones]

And when we catch up, we'll start reading all the names again.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Yes.

[Pacman Jones]

Yeah.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Yo, Jangles. One of Jerry's kids. Not my father's name, but that's what he called me. I'm a Franks and Beans kid. Jerry Lewis, Brandon Towel Peter Lara. Puerto Ricans are just Mexican islanders. It's what it is. Okay. I'm a fumy girl in a Fumi world. Life in plastic. It's fantastic. Mark Ronitti, UK Source Monkey. Oh, wow. I got a Italian kid in the uk. Yeah, Grayson Two knuckles in. And now my P turned white.

[Pacman Jones]

Put him on the list. Put him on the list. Put him on the list.

[Chrissy Chaos]

I like it.

[Pacman Jones]

Yeah. He made himself come too, because he.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Yeah. Drippy Stiffy Spark that Spiffy poas Getting second while Chrissy plays hummus. Cat Cannon. Okay, Jojo. Sir. The Muzzy Wuzzies hit the second Tower, Drexler Frog, Drexler, Taffy Nips, Davon Dixon. Then we got Sandusky Shower Fun Time.

[Pacman Jones]

Oh, that's a. That's a.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Can't do that.

[Pacman Jones]

Can't do that one.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Christos, Nicholas Wasner, Yanni Suziki, Turret, Emily Claire. Tattoo Sleepy Joe 20, Louis Christian, Patrick Robert Lucursi. Wife just left and she's. Hold on. Wife just left and she cocka hoops. I can't read this one. Wife just left and she cock. She cocka hoops to Eminem. A little cockatutor, too. I'm sorry, that was just. I can't. I think you might have a typo.

[Pacman Jones]

I just learned English recently.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Kayin. Then we got Ikea monkey with a Honduran wife and our Uberman son.

[Pacman Jones]

IKEA monkey again.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Are you saying you're Swedish?

[Pacman Jones]

Yeah, he's Swedish.

[Chrissy Chaos]

That's funny.

[Pacman Jones]

I like it for a Swedish to call him IKEA monkeys.

[Chrissy Chaos]

That would have worked.

[Pacman Jones]

That would work, yeah.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Cave diver in Pelosi's Tits. Amir Madaraya, Nathan Bramhall, Petey Bones, Christopher Lopez, Jordan Fox, Damen Rodriguez. I scream for boys Cream.

[Pacman Jones]

Oh, boy.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Yeah.

[Pacman Jones]

Jesus Christ.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Amelia Airport.

[Pacman Jones]

Amelia Airport. That's chicken.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Chicken figure. That's a good one.

[Pacman Jones]

That's a good one.

[Chrissy Chaos]

DrUnion88. Half Sauce Monkey, half diner monkey with no fumes. Vinny Troiano, Owen Harris, Joe O. Gecko, Brian Millen, Sal Monella, Alex Harrison.

[Pacman Jones]

Sal Monella's funny chicken finger.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Then we got Dirty Harry Sanchez, who gave Helen of Troy a Cleveland steamer and kicked out of ancient Rome for inventing the Cock Coliseum.

[Pacman Jones]

Okay.

[Chrissy Chaos]

All right. I mean, we got two more pages. Should we just finish this off today? Should we just be done?

[Pacman Jones]

And then we're caught up?

[Chrissy Chaos]

And then we're caught up. That's from a few weeks ago, that list.

[Pacman Jones]

Oh, so we're.

[Chrissy Chaos]

But I'm saying. But, like, we should get through these. Oh, yeah. Yeah. All right, so if you guys can hold on for two more minutes, let us just get. And there might be, by the way, there might be hall of Famers. That's the good news about this list. Is anyone who's saying on Patreon or YouTube, get rid of the list. You're out of your mind. This is the show. Okay, here we go. Is this kid Shane Todd here? Tell him he's got to hold on one second. One second, one second. Shane Todd's here. Shane Todd, great Irish comedian from Belfast is coming on this Patreon. All right. Garrett Garman, B. McQueen, Giovanni Diaz, Horny Gorny, the Pierogi monkey Father Bill is Duncan his trussle in my sphincter Neo David Gutierrez, Jose Rodriguez Blumkin Fumesies confuse me XMS International switch my Patreon from Are you garbage? To y'all Zion pharma slang and sledge 28 still use my glue gun as okay, 28 I still use my glue gun as a periscope in the tub. It's what it is. It's funny.

[Pacman Jones]

Okay.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Piss Jennings, Power Stroker Leroy Frisbee Richard Bia, Blue Pizza New York Screwed in Jack Snyte Alexander the Straight, Alexander the Straight yeah. Chicken Chicken Finger Salon Jack's Knight Luke Martin Lewis Verdusco, Trip Windham, Robert Sassman, Dagwood Dusseldorf, your friendly neighbor I have the clap Nick Ravine, Aiden Sullivan Elon's Red rocket gave me Germany gate Elon's Red rocket gave me a German salute in the pool Shoot Hitler's great grandson and make no mistake I will carry on the bloodline Walked in a woods yeah Darcy Tom Franco, J Scar Matthew Cornea Pseudo phallus in my anal palace Anthony Bundick, Ken Robbins, Ben Papa, George Jose Clinton, Andy Rose, Chico Matt Bradley, Liam Clark, Amy Stifler, Tariff Trump Daniels My dad survived Tower 2, but the kid still covered his eyes when two guys on Netflix start to make a sex flick.

[Pacman Jones]

Put him on the list.

[Chrissy Chaos]

What it is, it's just the truth. Yeah, Ginsburg. Funny what Fauci made my asshole go ouchie. It's what it is. Father Bill needs a blue pill for his pisha deal. Herschel Golden, Steinberg, the Screwed in Uncle Uden, Louis Pantaleone. I leave the microwave on around my Eastern Hemi roommate. As a reminder, put him on the list. Okay, okay. See, we got two lists on the last page here. Yeah, Awkward place between hey, babe and history. Hyenas. Drex Drexer, Samantha Hunt, Daniel Ligar, Hagemeister Aiden with the Centimeter Peter, Keep that thing on my. Keep that thing on me. Saragooti Lou Skunt. Our border is like your mom's box. It needs to be tightened. Okay, okay. Alexander the Great $3 bill aka Magic Johnson's infected glue gun. Okay, okay. Walked into one. John Daly, Nehar Patel, Epstein's guy. Land frauding and space docking. Chrissy D. A memoir. Fupacabra Eslo Ks like Chupacambra. Nice. Caitlin Fisher, Chrissy D and Yanni P. But my girl one titty Buy my girl one titty I'll buy my girl one titty. Sorry about that. Maybe we can. Zachariah Leahy, Pedro Laros, Natalie Farron, Tyler Hathaway, Stephanie Simmons. Scandal Carlson. Younger guy Ass Impact Theory. Pamela Anderson. Bidet nozzle pov.

[Pacman Jones]

Put it on the list.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Okay, fine.

[Pacman Jones]

Yeah, that's.

[Chrissy Chaos]

We got three on the list.

[Pacman Jones]

Yeah, that's a lot. Hilarious.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Yeah. UCF with a wife and kids. It's what it is. It's a lot of us. Wes, Zach Golder, Christian, Donnie T. Got elected so the Leroy's are going to need bail.

[Pacman Jones]

Okay.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Josh Archer. Chrissy's cuck Chair Chronicles. Fuzzy Wuzzy Cuz he's fuddy body filled my hubby with cummies. Arlene Dooley, Spudmonkey David Marquez. Randor Amos Hitler Vader. The ass eating masturbator. 69 father made the 69 there. Yeah. Father Bill's favorite ballplayer jock. Let me see your Peter son. Okay. A Habibi Netanyahu. Lily Pat Mays, Mike Dewar. My piece produces glue when Chrissy takes off a shoe. Gay Jean Sheehan.

[Pacman Jones]

Gay Zhang Jean. On its own would have been great.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Yeah. Okay. And last but not least half was a hot Pocket.

[Pacman Jones]

Wow.

[Giannis Pappas]

Wow.

[Pacman Jones]

Yeah.

[Chrissy Chaos]

That is not okay.

[Pacman Jones]

Right? All right.

[Chrissy Chaos]

All right. So here we go.

[Pacman Jones]

Yeah, we gotta do it. Okay.

[Chrissy Chaos]

All right, let's do it.

[Pacman Jones]

Kids got a heart out at 2:30.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Kids got a heart out at 2:30. All right, so let's go. Here we go. Let's read these names. Okay, so we got Jewel Lewis and the Fumes two knuckles in. Now my P turned one. Okay.

[Pacman Jones]

Julis on the fumes is going to be Drexler. Good. Any other day for Dewey Lewis and the Fumes. Yeah.

[Chrissy Chaos]

All right, so Julie Lewis and the Fumes is out.

[Pacman Jones]

Yeah.

[Chrissy Chaos]

So they're out.

[Pacman Jones]

Drexler.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Drexler out. Two knuckles in. Now my P turned white.

[Pacman Jones]

Tender.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Okay. My dad survived Tower 2, but the kid still covered his eyes when two guys on Netflix start to make a sex flick.

[Pacman Jones]

Funny. But you're Drexler.

[Chrissy Chaos]

You're Drexler. Yeah, but it is funny.

[Pacman Jones]

Yeah.

[Chrissy Chaos]

I leave the microwave on around my Eastern Hemi roommate. As a reminder, we're gonna Drexler. Okay.

[Pacman Jones]

It's a good one though.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Pamela Anderson. Bidet nozzle POV Contender. Contender. So that is still in.

[Giannis Pappas]

In.

[Pacman Jones]

Yeah.

[Chrissy Chaos]

And turned white is still in. Okay. So then we got Cash Patel cab smell.

[Pacman Jones]

It's a contender.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Okay. So that is still it.

[Pacman Jones]

Okay.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Then we got Put me on the list or fill my booty with your fist.

[Pacman Jones]

We're gonna drex for that.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Okay.

[Pacman Jones]

Yeah.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Anne Eileen's lipstick colored Sig from Finland.

[Pacman Jones]

We're gonna Drexler it.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Okay, let's build a new panic. Panama Canal between Yanni's eyes.

[Pacman Jones]

Good one. We're good. Drexler.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Drexler. Drexler. Indian Jones and his temple of fumes.

[Pacman Jones]

We're going to Drexler.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Okay, so that page is out. So the three are.

[Pacman Jones]

Yes.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Pamela Anderson's bidet nozzle pov. Two knuckles in and now my P turned white. Or Cash Patel cab smell.

[Pacman Jones]

It's a tough one again.

[Chrissy Chaos]

They're all tough.

[Pacman Jones]

This one's tough.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Who do we got?

[Pacman Jones]

Who do we got? This one I'm going to need help with.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Okay.

[Pacman Jones]

Yeah.

[Chrissy Chaos]

I'm going to say if I had to take it all, I would say just because it made me me really think, I would say two knuckles in and out. My pee turned white.

[Pacman Jones]

Okay.

[Chrissy Chaos]

That's come white PE is very funny. I like and I've never heard it.

[Pacman Jones]

Yeah. I like Pamela Anderson's bidet pov.

[Chrissy Chaos]

So. So we'll agree Cash Patel cab smell is out.

[Pacman Jones]

Yeah. But yeah, ca. It's a good one though. Any other day. Yeah. So I wish she didn't use Pamela Anderson. It just went bidet nozzle pov. Right. That's just funny.

[Chrissy Chaos]

So bidet nozzle POV on its own. On its own is fun. So does that get him in a tight race? Race does that. Then give it to two knuckles in an MIP turned white.

[Pacman Jones]

Yeah, we're gonna get.

[Chrissy Chaos]

All right, so you are the winner. Go to history is back dot com. See your name up my lights. You are the PPW pseudo penis of the week. Two knuckles in and now my P turned white. All right.

[Pacman Jones]

Chicken finger victory.

[Chrissy Chaos]

That's it.