Manipulation during divorce can make you feel like you’re constantly reacting, constantly defending yourself, and constantly emotionally exhausted. One minute you’re calm… and the next, you’re spiraling because your ex sent another manipulative text, guilt-inducing email, or chaotic late-night message.

So how do you stop the cycle?

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In this incredibly practical and eye-opening episode of How Not to Suck at Divorce, Andrea and Morgan are joined by critically acclaimed New York divorce attorney Lois Liberman to break down exactly how manipulators operate during divorce—and how to stop feeding the chaos.

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From emotional vampires and coercive control to OurFamilyWizard communication strategies, BIFF responses, AI-assisted co-parenting communication, and courtroom credibility, this episode gives actionable tools for anyone feeling emotionally hijacked by a manipulative spouse during divorce.

If you’re dealing with high conflict divorce, narcissistic behavior, emotional manipulation, or constant chaos during co-parenting communication, this conversation is a must-listen.

In This Episode You Will Learn

✅ Why manipulators thrive on emotional reactions during divorce

✅ How to stop feeding the chaos and regain emotional control

✅ Why viewing divorce like a business transaction changes everything

✅ The best way to communicate with a manipulative ex

✅ How OurFamilyWizard can help document high conflict behavior

✅ Why emotional responses can damage your credibility in court

✅ How to use BIFF communication during co-parenting conflict

✅ Why boundaries are critical during high conflict divorce

✅ How AI tools like ChatGPT can help refine co-parenting communication

✅ Why realistic expectations matter during family court disputes

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Timestamps

(00:00) How manipulators create chaos during divorce

(01:26) Meet Lois Liberman and why manipulation is all about control

(02:03) Why emotional reactions fuel manipulators

(03:47) The “toilet bowl effect” and getting sucked into chaos

(04:48) Why people struggle to stop reacting emotionally

(05:29) The power of documentation and OurFamilyWizard

(07:02) Why emotional emails can hurt your divorce case

(08:23) Chad and Brenda: how manipulation destroys credibility

(10:35) Setting boundaries with emotional vampires

(11:42) Why your ex no longer controls your time

(12:54) The myth of “winning” in divorce

(16:22) Morgan’s strategy for out-manipulating a manipulator

(18:20) Why chaos prevents good decision-making

(20:02) Using AI and BIFF communication during divorce

(21:27) Running co-parenting messages through AI for perspective

(22:05) The real way to out-manipulate a manipulator

(23:04) Thinking long-term instead of emotionally reacting

(25:04) Why parents often confuse their needs with their child’s needs

(27:48) The two biggest ways clients can save money during divorce

(30:46) Why realistic expectations matter in family court

(33:52) Lois’ advice for staying calm and emotionally detached

(35:58) Why boring responses are often the most powerful

(37:04) Understanding why manipulators escalate during divorce

(39:14) Drawing the line in the sand and taking your power back

Key Takeaways

🔹 Manipulators rely on emotional reactions to maintain control

🔹 The best way to out-manipulate a manipulator is to stop reacting emotionally

🔹 High conflict communication can seriously damage courtroom credibility

🔹 Boundaries and delayed responses reduce chaos and emotional escalation

🔹 Divorce cases are built on facts, evidence, and strategy—not emotional explosions

🔹 Tools like OurFamilyWizard, BIFF communication, timelines, and AI can help reduce conflict and improve communication

About the Hosts

Morgan Stogsdill is the Head of Family Law at one of the largest family law firms in the country, bringing expert legal insight and strategy to every episode.

Andrea Rappaport is a comedian and divorce survivor who shares real, unfiltered experiences to help others navigate divorce with clarity, strength, and confidence.

About the Guest

Lois Liberman is a nationally recognized New York divorce attorney at Blank Rome LLP known for handling high-profile family law cases and complex divorce litigation. She has represented celebrities, executives, and high-net-worth individuals while helping clients navigate emotionally difficult divorces with strategy, clarity, and strength.

Resources:

👉 Divorce Crash Course

hownottosuckatdivorce.com/divorce-crash-course

👉 OurFamilyWizard (Co-Parenting App)

ourfamilywizard.com/notsuck

👉 Soberlink

soberlink.com/dcc

👉 How to Hire the Right Attorney Guide

hownottosuckatdivorce.com/guides

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