Perdita Finn is the co-founder, with her husband Clark Strand, of the feral fellowship The Way of the Rose, which inspired their book The Way of the Rose: The Radical Path of the Divine Feminine Hidden in the Rosary. They are currently at work on their next book together Circles Not Lines: Spiritual Community Beyond Patriarchy. To find out more about her devotion to “ecology not theology” visit wayoftherose.org

In addition to extensive study with Zen masters, priests, spirit workers, and healers, she apprenticed with the psychic Susan Saxman, with whom she wrote The Reluctant Psychic. Perdita Finn now teaches popular workshops on Getting to Know the Dead. Participants are empowered to activate the miracles in their own lives with the help of their ancestors and recover their own intuitive magic. Her book Take Back the Magic: Conversations with the Unseen World is an intimate journey through her recovery of these lost ways. She speaks widely on how to collaborate with those on the other side, on the urgent necessity of a new romantic animism, and on the sobriety that emerges when we claim the long story of our souls. Her next book is Mothers of Magic: Summoning the Wisdom of Our Ancestors, to be released on May 5th, 2026.

Perdita begins by talking about the idea of redefining Mothering beyond gender, something that feels so important in today's world where Mothering has been sidelined by the patriarchy. She offers some strong guidance to men about the role of Grandmothers which helps us move towards collective Mothering. So much of Perdita's work and book centers on a calling upon the dead. As such we get to hear how this connects with Mothering, how to speak with the dead, and viewing our worries or fretting as an act of prayer calling out for help from the unseen.

You can connect with all of Perdita's work at https://takebackthemagic.com/

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