This conversation with Dr. Terence Lester begins with his journey from dropout to doctorate, but it quickly becomes something deeper.

We talk about growing up with fear, living through trauma, and making the choice not to pass that pain on to your children.

Terence shares what it means to sit on a refrigerator in protest of hunger, and why food is about more than survival.

We also talk about faith, the Black church, and what it means to follow a path rooted in compassion rather than power.

This is a conversation about becoming a different kind of parent, and a different kind of person.

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From Dropout to Doctorate

https://terencelester.com

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